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several times I did forced
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cooling of the processor power circuits on the
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motherboard and while doing this I
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used a rhea tower cooler, every
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time there were many people who
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said that if there had not been a tower
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cooler blowing on the board, then there would have
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been no problems naturally. It definitely wouldn’t have helped
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on the board where after a minute and a half I
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turned off the load when it reached 200
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degrees to prevent the
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mosfets from soldering themselves,
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simply blowing in a not very directed
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way without a radiator will not remove 100
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degrees, so commentators
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still need to be more careful in their statements,
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okay, I understand that the adviser I’m wrong,
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but with such advice, people could
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burn their computer because a person could
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believe in all this, and naturally, when choosing a
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motherboard for yourself, it is very important
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to familiarize yourself in more detail with the capabilities and
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power subsystem, as well as reviews of
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board owners and reviews of these boards and
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long more popular ones models, you
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can find reviews and reviews on the website and
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catalog
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and also find out the main technical
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characteristics of the boards, compare several
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different boards and after the choice is
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made without leaving the catalog, you
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can also compare prices in stores in your
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region and select the best
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deals and then you can avoid
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problems like this and you won’t have to
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farm radiators to make air ducts.
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With regards to the fact that there were tips to just
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use a box cooler, naturally
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blowing the motherboard removes some of
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the heat,
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that is, the box cooler, by blowing the radiators on the
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board itself, will help reduce the
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temperature of the vrm zone of the motherboard,
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all that remains is to understand the degree of this
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influence, especially the degree of this influence in
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modern boards, I’m not just talking
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about modern boards, and to
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understand why you need to plunge a little into
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history, the fact is that in old boards these are the
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elements used and they are
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soldered through a large-area contact
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that gives excellent output heat is applied to the
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metallization layer of the motherboard and this is
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generally normal practice for power
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elements of electronics, with magnification, the
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metal
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parts of the case are already seated without soldering, but the screws are pressed
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against the radiator through a thermal pad.
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This can be seen in any power
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items, such as power supplies, and earlier,
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say 10 years ago exactly This method of
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heat input was paramount in
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motherboards,
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and just at that time they
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usually used coolers whose fans
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blew on the board itself, but
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now mosfets assemblies of mosfets with
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drivers transfer much
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less heat to the payment and it is assumed that either
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they will not be heavily loaded close to the
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maximum accordingly, the current
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will not heat up much, or they will
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transfer heat to separate radiators;
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this allows you to increase the
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airflow capabilities since there is already a radiator and,
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in addition, reduces the heat flow to the
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motherboard so as not to heat up
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neighboring elements, because for mosfets
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heating less than 100-120 degrees is not critical, and
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this for them I have a normal temperature, but
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the capacitors that are standing next to each other are not
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very happy about this; they are adjacent often
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tend to leave their case precisely
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for the hot mosfets
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and I am making this video because
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some general traditions for assembling a computer,
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its cooling almost never changes
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and since the design and the
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vrm element have changed,
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then it’s worth checking, in principle, the degree of
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influence in the house of paying for the side cooler, is there
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any significant
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effect left from blu efficiency, all that remains is to
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carry out the appropriate tests,
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I measured everything and the pyrometer, I initially
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decided that it would not be so clear
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since synchronize pyrometer measurement runs
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and this is not the same as
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synchronizing game benchmarks, although
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looking ahead I will say that
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I was able to synchronize pyrometer runs about payment,
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however, I decided
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that it was necessary to pay with a
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working and adequately indicating
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temperature sensor from January and
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I only have one of these this board is for socket am4,
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fortunately I have both a box cooler and a
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tower cooler for am4,
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but still there is one problem, namely
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that I bought the boards last year
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based on this year and soon this board will
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take over 12 cores, but now the
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longest-lasting processor on my M4 is a
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Ryzen
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400, and the boxed cooler for it is the
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thinnest pancake from the line of boxed
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coolers on the M4. The essence of the problem is that
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if you don’t overclock the processor, the product
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heats up within plus ten degrees of
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room temperature and under such
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conditions the difference is that widows can’t see the
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heating a little higher in overclocking, but the boxed
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cooler does not overclock with overclocking damn it
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while in the summer heat, so
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I made 2 in 1 sets of tests,
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I drove the processor with overclocking to 39 x
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hertz
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but with a boxed cooler at reaching 93
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degrees, I turned off the Lin Pact for 5-10
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seconds and at about 6 minutes I took
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temperature measurements with the tower cooler. I
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didn’t turn off anything and took measurements
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for about 5 and a half minutes,
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but I still did
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n’t get any sensible results. as the processor
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itself apparently began to warm up the
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board around itself, it still kept
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it above 90 degrees; in addition,
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the box cooler did not blow the radiator with a direct flow of air,
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while the
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tower cooler hit
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one of the two radiators with a direct flow of air,
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namely the short one so the small radiator
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was blown by the tower cooler, its
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temperature even 20 minutes after the
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start of the test
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was lower than the temperatures with the box
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cooler after a couple of minutes linpack
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in general, practice has shown that in fact it does not
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happen that the cooler does not
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blow on the radiators at all
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since the radiator is high, which is already
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placed under doubt the very purpose of determining the
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degree of influence of the box blowing the cooler
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simply because the tower cooler blowing the
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radiator is stronger than the box cooler
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and in addition the processor itself introduces
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errors because the processor was in
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one of the cases much hotter than the
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mosfets
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so we had to slightly
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adjust the reality by bringing
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conditions such
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as to get a more controlled one an
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experiment with cleaner results,
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for this I removed the radiator from the mosfets,
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thereby giving them the opportunity to heat up
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higher, approaching the processor temperature, which
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significantly reduces errors from
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different temperatures of processors on different
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coolers, and I also eliminated the
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ability of the tower cooler to blow on the
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mosfets by blowing on the radiators. Did
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they work successfully? for the demonstration of a boxed cooler,
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I reduced the frequency to 3 7 gigahertz and the
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voltage to 125 volts,
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in fact, in this form it is already possible to
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carry out testing,
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20-minute runs, learn these gave the
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desired results, by the way, if
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anyone knows how to save the log in a new
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network, then write about it in
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comments this design is beautiful but
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without lags there is no use in this software 0 as
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earlier it does not dump results and graphs into documents
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here you can see the
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flow to the temperature of the mosfets that the
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boxed cooler gains as much as eight
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degrees, this is quite a lot considering that the
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room was about twenty-eight
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degrees then there is a box with a cooler
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heating + 31 degrees with a tower plus 39
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degrees and according to the data from the pyrometer, the
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power line under a small radiator with a box cooler has
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copper temperatures from 42 to 50
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degrees and with a tower a color from 54 to
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50 6 degrees, that is, the same six
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ten degrees the
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main power circuit of the cores with a box
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color has a temperature of 60 to 71
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and with a tower from 50 8 to 75 in general for
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most mosfets
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45 degrees more was from the towers with a
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cooler actually these are the results
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roughly speaking we got a difference of five
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ten degrees when heated in mosfets at
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about 30-40 degrees C above room
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temperature, it is natural that when heated in
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mosfets to higher temperatures, the difference
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will be higher since the difference between the
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temperature of the air and the body of the mass
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will be greater. Unfortunately, it is impossible in
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any way to extrapolate the
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results obtained at one
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temperature in any way - then certain
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linear laws or some other more
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complex conditions when, unlike in
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my case, there would be enough in the area, that is, the
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mosfets were heating up bds, then 120 degrees is
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equal to co could be and is played in 15-20
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or even more, which is quite significant and
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definitely in In some cases, it makes
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sense to give preference to buying a
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boxed cooler, first of all, this
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condition is the absence of good ventilation of
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the case, the absence of radiators in the zone,
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we believe in this case, hot air
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accumulates somewhere in the upper part of the case, including in the r.m. and when
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you haven’t been
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haley for a long time the back panel of hot air, then the
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box cooler will create at least
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some air movement and make a
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big difference on rafts that have
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problems with accidents; however, I didn’t just
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say that the first approach to
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testing turned out to be unsuccessful
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in reality in fact,
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some unsuccessful tests often occur, you have to
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do some before changing
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the conditions and usually I don’t show these unsuccessful tests
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in the same way, and then redo everything for him
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according to the second type of tests and do
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n’t talk about the first ones, I told him about
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him because in those conditions, the tower
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cooler turned out to be more advantageous for temperatures for the
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Jews; the tower cooler, with a direct flow
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of air, touched one of the two radiators,
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and also this radiator inside the
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case could be part of the overall
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blowing system of the case, that is, direct the
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flow and, thanks to a larger fan and
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direction in the right direction, it
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could reduce the overall temperature air in
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the case thanks to improved ventilation,
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thereby reducing the temperature of all
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components in the case, including the NVM and
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also the video card, power supply, other
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components, and also with a tower cooler, the
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processor temperature came out much lower than about 30 degrees with
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comparable noise levels, despite the fact that
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this cooler is one of the cheapest additives
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the processor, due to overheating with a side
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cooler, heated the motherboard for a
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new Rome, including the
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capacitor, and there are definitely a lot of
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cases when using a tower
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cooler will be even more advantageous for the
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temperature of the vrm zone,
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in general, everything is not as simple as
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I would like I also left an unsuccessful experience for this
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video precisely in order to
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show that there is no clear best
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solution, what was actually shown should
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have been enough so that in general one could
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imagine what situation would be
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more profitable for a specific computer for a
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specific motherboard and a
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specific case with the fans selected for
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this case and
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air currents I hope the video was useful or
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interesting if so then subscribe to the
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channel and you haven’t done this in advance
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