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with

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Hello everyone, good evening, you

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are watching the last one in order, but far from

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least important Stream this week on

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my channel, this is the point here, already

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joyful Askar Tuganbaev is waving to you

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hands Hello Oscar Hello everyone And

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hello Mikhail Klimov who today

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valiantly replaced Grisha

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Kunov who was let down by the Internet Hello

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Mish well when yes

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I am protecting the Internet as best I

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can Protect the Internet in

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Grisha’s locations please somehow here So

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as not to go out yourself You know

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how delegate this already somehow,

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but we are always glad to see you and come more

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often, so to speak, maybe

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it was you who arranged it on purpose Grisha,

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of course, what kind of

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conspiracy theory is it, the country outside my windows is

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dark and damp Yes, in

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general, Well, that’s what happened here today,

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Sergei Boyko was announced and his

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child was ill. That’s why too.

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See what we

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did today. Sorry. But nevertheless,

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I think that we have a wonderful

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team and with this team we

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will cope with the topics that we

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announced today, and one of them is Well, it’s

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so very

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extensive and Andrei Zakharov gave the reason for it,

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we called him to us, but unfortunately he has a

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parallel Stream right now, so to

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speak, you know from Zakharov with Shchepelin.

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But he couldn’t come to us to

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tell us about the research

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his own about what to do with them, he

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generally found out that the Ministry of Internal Affairs of at least technical

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regions of Russia entered into government contracts

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for the purchase of a system for de-anonymization,

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which means we are talking about a certain Isay system which is

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based on data from Internet databases with

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mobile phone numbers, which in

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turn are compared with ID in telegram,

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this is a unique account identification number

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that allows security forces to find out

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names, addresses, places of work and other

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information about the user from the same leaked

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databases, Zakharov said, and according to his data, there are

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more than

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76 million numbers in the insider’s database. Rome Togo Can search by

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keywords in public chats in

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telegram And of course, many people were very

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concerned about

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God. Well, that’s essentially what it is. Well, it’s like the

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Eye of God there, in my opinion, it was trampled

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underfoot, as far as I remember. Well, there

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several times several times, but it’s

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like the thing lives on. Eh, it’s like the

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next reincarnation you can say Well,

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let me try to explain in general

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What is the essence of all this, let’s go back there in

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1919, it all started, that

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is, quite a long time ago, maybe even earlier

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it all started there in the telegram, it wasn’t that

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it was a mistake But it was like this, how to

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say this and the flaw is architectural And

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look, well, in general, any

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Internet service can be imagined

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as a kind of database, and well, an interface

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to it and some kind of communication logic, right here,

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literally, let’s

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take any architecture of any service. It

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turns out that there is some kind of... then the model

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for this model has an interface and this

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interface works on

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certain principles, including

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Telegram as a messenger. So how do we

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record each

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specific user in this database, it must be

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unique Yes, it must somehow

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to be different from others, that’s

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what it’s called, that’s the difference between one

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user and another is called an ID

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identifier Well, it’s just an

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identifier ID of the user That’s the

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number there It’s quite long I don’t remember

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how many characters it’s there, more precisely numbers

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and it’s given when you

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register they add up here as

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if with this

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identifier,

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and until some point, I don’t

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remember exactly when this hole was

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closed, it was possible to match the

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phone number with this very

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identifier, roughly speaking, there are

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some well, quite simple runs. Well, that

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is, you send some number Well, a

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telephone number, a telegram, it

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returns an ID to you and that’s how many

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telephone numbers we have in Russia, all of them can be

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sent and you can get an ID for all of them if there

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was no answer to the phone number

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specifically, but nothing was recorded in the cheat,

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so it was collected a long time ago a

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database was collected where the

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telegram ID and

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a and e phone number were compared, that’s where it’s located next, it’s

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somehow done in different ways to

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enrich it, plus on top of everything, some

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users still haven’t set the

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normal settings in their telegram,

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it’s necessary to hide the phone number number so that

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you can’t be searched by

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phone number, just in the settings specifically

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right now by Go Look,

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do two things, the

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first is to set a Cloud password,

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it’s called a cloud

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password, in my opinion, and the second is to hide the

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phone number so that no one can see your

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number phone and couldn’t find you on it by

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phone number Well, those who

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don’t do this, all these databases are constantly

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updated, there’s this robot

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running around collecting this data, the next

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part is the public part of

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the telegram, these are chat channels. This is all in

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fact, too you can collect with my

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bo Well, that is, you are not a user there, you have a

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specific bot I’m from my channel Well,

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for Telecom I regularly sit there once every

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six months, I probably look through

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literally all the users to look for

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bots very often I

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find Well, that is, there is some sitting then a bot

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that just parses all my content

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and puts it somewhere in a

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box. I don’t know why, well, there’s a

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lot of them there, sometimes you have time,

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sometimes you don’t have time, but nevertheless,

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if such a bot subscribed, I immediately

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I won’t see

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the secret, I’ll tell you the channel administrators don’t

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see there unless they specifically

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look, they don’t see who’s

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signed up for this, you need

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to look at the interface every time and see who’s

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subscribed there, it’s done quite

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inconveniently Well, viewing a large number of

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people That’s why this includes chats also

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work, yes, that is, all the chats, all the

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messages in the chats, this bot takes them,

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parses them and puts them

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in a box somewhere, and even if you Delete, I’ve

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already gone through these messages, all Sora

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and the bot know these very telegra

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user IDs, you understand, yes about the World Cup I’m talking about

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if you wrote something in an open chat

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not in a closed private one, it’s impossible to

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do that, namely in an open chat in a public

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chat that has some name. If

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you wrote something there, this also

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applies, by the way, to comments under

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whose channels, for example, This also applies to them.

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This is some kind of public thing and

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it’s clear that the EU is the one on the loose.

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People are starting to look at you.

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And sooner or later they

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will begin to recognize you by sight. It’s about the

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same situation here, that is. in public

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chats it’s better Well, as if your teleg

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was registered a long time ago It’s probably better

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that you are well Well, as if there is some kind of

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danger It’s probably better

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not to write anything like that because the

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first cases began to appear when

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people began to be fined or even imprisoned precisely for

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comments in these public chats Yes, well, yes,

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let’s say it on purpose

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Because I see provocative

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comments here in the chat Let me say it

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on purpose, this doesn’t mean that

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Durov is handing them over, it doesn’t mean that Durov is handing him over,

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Durov can’t do anything about it

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because, well, this is a public chat Well, that is, that’s what it’s

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designed for, so that

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anyone can read it, but if you

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want some kind of privacy and don’t want

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anyone to read your public

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messages, don’t write them there

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Yes The only problem is that

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now you can between nicknames Well more precisely, the

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user ID and his real data

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to get the relationship, that’s what the

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main problem is, this is the problem.

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Yes, that you can get such a relationship,

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in fact, there is a bypass and for this thing,

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well, I can advise that

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right here, if you really want to, write

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what -I don’t know some comment in

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Legra Medvedev Is it possible to write

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comments there I recommend doing the

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following Get yourself a new and

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modern account this Telegram is

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telegram clients You can

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use several accounts in it at the same time

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I have, in my opinion, things

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five different ones for different

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purposes, it’s like this is a split

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personality here I communicate like this there I

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communicate like this In fact, I have

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some channels there, some

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and some accounts they are, like,

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public in order to keep

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some kind of public Telegram channel

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or some kind of public some chat here I

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created special accounts for them and there

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they seem to be sitting with me and there is also

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the opportunity to create a completely

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anonymous account, this is if you buy a

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phone number on the platform fragment

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Well, for cryptocurrency for tons this

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can also be done, although now they are some

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very good expensive ones, I think I bought them for

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15 or something, and it seemed to me It’s very

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expensive, but now they cost, in my opinion, They’re

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about 200 euros the cheapest And this,

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well, of course, it’s no good anywhere, but

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you can buy it, they still

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sell SIM cards in Russia for those issued for homeless people

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What is called Yes, you can just

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register there, it’s easy to agree, in

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fact, it’s done if you need it. Well, or

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just ask someone to

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buy you a SIM card; there are a lot of them

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being produced now, and the point is not that you

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will be there, like to use this phone number

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somewhere to call I don’t know

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to some kind of anything

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Anywhere, the

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main thing is

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that it’s as if it’s impossible to link a

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new account that was created And where you

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just set the Cloud password and

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set it to hide all

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phone numbers from users it will be

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very difficult to de-anonize them Well, because

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this database did not match the telegram ID

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with your phone

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number e ide terov and prokh you can not

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fight here they ask Now for

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a second if

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several accounts are connected in one application, then can

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these attackers

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link them Well, as far as I know God

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knows, yes, but so far, in my opinion, this has

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not happened. Well, technically, these are

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quite isolated entities, yes. And

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even for the telegram itself, it will

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seem like these are two different

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accounts. I think not, but if you do

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n’t get confused there, yes If you have

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one account to communicate with

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classmates there, I don’t know with whom,

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but the second one to which you are subscribed

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to some channels there, I don’t know,

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including, you know, now everyone is afraid that

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they will take away the phone and force you to

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unlock it And he’ll look at who you’re

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subscribed to. Well, in Belarus it was like this,

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in Belarus most often they used

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just this kind of double account, I

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don’t know what to call it when you have

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two accounts, one is really yours on

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your phone, but one is for the left

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SIM card on some- then in case of something you

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delete it, it’s just literally

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done there in three taps, you delete

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this account from your phone And that’s it And it’s

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impossible to sign you, it’s deleted

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along

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with these dangerous

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messages, let’s say,

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in the telegram you’re already logged in, you

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can’t be suspected of anything there there is

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correspondence there with mom and dad, in general, it’s

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all like that Well, it’s vanilla Yes,

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there’s

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no compromising you Yes, in the faces

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of cops it’s hard to call cops garbage,

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probably it’s still correct to call them

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in short That’s the story and Well, it’s

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like Russia is going downhill really

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fast is slipping into

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literal totalitarianism in the literal sense of the

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word That's what it is, how to say something like a

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terrorist

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terrorist State, this is already

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unambiguous and the point is not that

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millions of people there will be imprisoned no l the check will

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not be imprisoned a dozen of them will be imprisoned as if

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indicatively punished and everyone else

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will be afraid But for such things,

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here you go, you have

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a solution and you can remain human at the same

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time and somehow protect yourself Yes,

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Oscar wanted to sit for a long time, so to speak, Yes,

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not me No, I actually

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listen to Mikhail with interest because he he clearly has

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more knowledge in this regard than

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I do, and part of my thoughts

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will be with a question mark.

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Do I understand correctly Mikhail so-and-so Well, first of

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all, first I have such

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organizational considerations that Well, I do

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n’t believe that uh 76 There are telegram users who are fully declared,

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that is, in the news there is data of

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76 million, but no, there aren’t so many

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telegrams. I also

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noticed this figure. Well, apparently it’s not

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only Russians who don’t have everything on telegram,

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like again, no fool. It’s clear that

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they’re hardly all there identified by telephone

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That's okay What I mean is that I

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generally have a very great distrust of this

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news It again looks to me like

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some kind of Feast I found

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this I found bots these are the

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corresponding ones I was puzzled I found the bots

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They are paid there for 50 rubles I asked

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for to my own account, give out

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those chats in which I am and imagine, he

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gave out the

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chats, Prim is pleased, which Well, they are not very

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public Well, that is, there are several

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dozen people there, so he gave me

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private chats, but at the same time they are not

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private Yes, they are not private Yes they are, as

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it were, public But they are small, they don’t

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shine. I just mean that I would

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divide this thing into generally all this

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news into a technical

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and, as it were, organizational part in the

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sense that in the news itself it is written

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that the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Amur Territory is the Kamchat region of the

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Kamchatka Territory and Chechnya, then,

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signed an agreement for the

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supply of this system; an insider, as well as the

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leadership of the Pskov Oryol region,

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as far as I remember, means concluded an

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agreement for the supply of this system, I don’t

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really imagine how this can be

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done legally, just imagine

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when we have the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Amur Territory

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concluding contracts in a tender for

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supply of identifiers in a telegram in

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some kind of system

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Kato deliveries, that is, in my opinion,

00:17:31

this is someone’s feeling being promoted, so I’m doing

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a little to smooth out the

00:17:37

threat of Zakharov, he didn’t come up with it himself,

00:17:40

he found it in

00:17:44

Nuka’s procurement, they point out This is the insider

00:17:47

as this company is listed there, right here

00:17:49

he writes about it and

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it’s strange that they say it

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ended, I know when it’s probably not ever Well,

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as for the Connected part For example, I can

00:18:02

say exactly when they ended In general,

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any laws in

00:18:06

Russia ended for example, when do you remember there was such a

00:18:09

slowdown in the telegram, everyone like that is

00:18:11

sitting now now they won’t remember And

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this 3 years ago was exactly the right thing,

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about after the March holidays of

00:18:18

these women’s day Roskomnadzor began

00:18:27

to slow down Yes Zakharov found all this Yes, I

00:18:30

mean that I’m just noting that it’s

00:18:32

somehow very strangely legal and most

00:18:35

likely it’s all

00:18:36

illegal it’s absolutely illegal of

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course it’s moreover it’s a direct

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contradiction there’s a bunch of all sorts of laws of the

00:18:42

same damn personal data

00:18:45

that’s running around and you understand it’s

00:18:47

like the state is essentially buying

00:18:49

leaks that’s what I’m talking about I That’s exactly what I wanted

00:18:52

to say, that these are countries that look like they are buying

00:18:55

illegal data there, yes, that’s exactly what it

00:18:57

looks like, it doesn’t look exactly like that, and

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there is another thing that, well, you can’t

00:19:02

write a request to the prosecutor’s office

00:19:04

like check them out, please, they

00:19:07

will send you and tell you everything everything is

00:19:10

legal Here they are And about the

00:19:13

anonymous SIM cards that you buy for

00:19:15

crypto

00:19:16

So this is also not really a

00:19:20

Panacea This is not salvation Because if

00:19:23

we have a SIM card, even some kind of

00:19:25

foreign one, suppose an Estonian SIM card of

00:19:27

some kind still lands

00:19:29

here on the operator then she

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is still our subscriber and let her

00:19:33

not be registered on a passport Yes, they hit not on

00:19:34

the passport But on the

00:19:36

face, respectively, if

00:19:38

we assume some bad bad

00:19:42

bot from the Amur region, the Ministry of Internal Affairs begins to

00:19:44

request the same Telegram in

00:19:47

case of losing the password from a certain

00:19:48

account of Misha Klimov Yes, and he says that I

00:19:50

lost my account, which means that an SMS is sent to him.

00:19:54

For some SIM card bought

00:19:56

even in Guatemala, it doesn’t matter there; the

00:19:59

SIM card, it lands here

00:20:01

in Russia, and if we send this

00:20:04

very request for restoration three times, then we

00:20:06

will recognize this SIM card to

00:20:09

Mishina, we will find him We’ll know the geolocation

00:20:12

where he went with her. What other services is he

00:20:15

there and so on, so

00:20:18

there’s no escape from this at the Opera level? Yes,

00:20:21

everything is

00:20:27

correct; the point is not that Yes,

00:20:30

how to protect yourself completely is

00:20:32

impossible in reality yes, that is,

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in a totalitarian state with

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modern development with modern

00:20:37

development of technology Well, it’s very difficult

00:20:39

to hide there somehow, the state Well, it

00:20:41

’s possible not to shine and so on, but it’s

00:20:44

very difficult and you’ll limit yourself in

00:20:46

life somehow Well, for example those the

00:20:48

same government services If you want to

00:20:50

live normally in Russia, you will need

00:20:52

government services, you need to have an account on government services,

00:20:54

and again, well, that’s how I am,

00:20:57

yes, they just revoked my SIM card, I

00:21:00

can’t now log in to these same government services, and

00:21:03

everything seems to be right. but I can’t

00:21:05

use any benefits at all

00:21:07

now from the Russian state, simply

00:21:09

because, well, the operator has revoked the

00:21:11

SIM card, and here the task, I’m

00:21:15

saying it again, the task is not for

00:21:17

you to somehow hide there and all that.

00:21:19

You need to create a new one the account is just a

00:21:21

new telegram account with an

00:21:24

unknown ID unknown to this

00:21:27

very person and it’s called

00:21:29

insider And now they’ll try to figure out

00:21:32

something there and try to figure out

00:21:34

this ID And in NM there’s nothing on it because

00:21:37

what did you do, you

00:21:39

registered a new one account and you

00:21:41

immediately did these two things that I was

00:21:43

talking about. The first is to hide the

00:21:45

phone number right away, you just just

00:21:47

registered right away. We go to the

00:21:49

settings to hide the phone number from everyone

00:21:52

and the second is to set it Cloud password

00:21:54

Cloud Password You need it in order to

00:21:57

spend via

00:22:02

SM This is good advice, good useful

00:22:05

advice there about the Soviets, it also means I

00:22:08

’ll now throw Grisha to us oh Grisha Misha

00:22:11

threw us into the chat the thread of Zakharov itself,

00:22:17

so it means everything is scheduled to be done with

00:22:23

him also Well, in this thread, not only the

00:22:25

discovery itself

00:22:29

means this story, but besides everything

00:22:33

else, what to do, what to do directly step by

00:22:35

step, because that means I’ll write

00:22:38

what to do in a

00:22:41

telegram,

00:22:43

Oban means this in

00:22:47

order to disguise yourself as best as possible

00:22:51

from such similar

00:22:55

systems,

00:22:56

but

00:22:58

by ear, I’m afraid that

00:23:00

There will be more questions than answers because it’s

00:23:04

difficult to hear It’s difficult to perceive But Andrei

00:23:08

Zakharov wrote brilliantly So you can

00:23:11

ask him questions there If something

00:23:14

is unclear, he’ll answer there on Twitter

00:23:16

So, in our case, we have a

00:23:23

similar VM in line, so to speak

00:23:26

talk to each other about how

00:23:32

we can hide from all these

00:23:36

eyes of God here on the telegram, but there is

00:23:39

one more thing, this is a facial recognition system, there are

00:23:42

at least two faces here, they are

00:23:46

not very concerned about this, but right now,

00:23:49

but one may be Quite Although It

00:23:52

seems to me that in order to recognize

00:23:54

Oscar, in general, you do

00:23:57

n’t need any camera or system,

00:23:58

he’s so memorable, so to speak,

00:24:01

I saw him once and everyone knows who

00:24:04

Oscar is, so I’m sure that

00:24:06

Oscar, for example, is not a Secret Agent because

00:24:09

he has a very

00:24:10

memorable appearance Now, if the Agent is not

00:24:14

secret, that means In short, that’s all I’m talking about

00:24:18

in Medusa, a big article just came out with a

00:24:20

huge

00:24:26

demo of facial recognition. Is it possible

00:24:29

to interfere? Well, you remember that now the

00:24:31

latest History is when everyone went

00:24:34

to the funeral of Alexei Navalny in Russia

00:24:37

and someone came It was precisely through the

00:24:41

recognition cameras that they were

00:24:43

somehow caught there before, or they were warned

00:24:44

or something else was there with them, so they

00:24:48

recognized them from the cameras and came to them,

00:24:51

accordingly, the question arose whether it was possible to

00:24:53

stop them, in principle, the jellyfish answers

00:24:55

this

00:24:56

question, a large publication I I left it

00:25:00

in the file I hope you read it,

00:25:02

maybe you have comments, suggestions for

00:25:05

continuation or something to pay

00:25:07

attention to there, well, I would like Askar to

00:25:10

probably start because again Well, I’ll

00:25:13

start about something that is

00:25:14

really very difficult Well in big

00:25:17

cities Well in Moscow There, in St. Petersburg, well, in

00:25:20

million-plus cities, it is very difficult to hide from

00:25:22

cameras because they are really everywhere. So

00:25:25

I noticed that

00:25:28

our couriers know best about these cameras,

00:25:31

perfectly with these boxes

00:25:32

Yandex shop Yandex food, they always

00:25:39

leave their very mine mobiles, these electric scooters on purpose under

00:25:42

the camera they know that here is

00:25:43

the camera they leave it because I sometimes

00:25:45

see that in some random place he

00:25:47

put it there in the yard and went somewhere with

00:25:49

this box of his. I think why did he

00:25:51

put it here and then I realized that they It’s

00:25:53

like they always place them under the cameras

00:25:54

and that means they know where and what. So maybe

00:25:58

now Skara

00:26:01

NVA will make such a joke from me. Maybe it’s just that

00:26:04

they are generally more difficult

00:26:06

to recognize because the system is tailored

00:26:09

more for, let’s say, a more typical person

00:26:14

here, by the way, we have a small

00:26:16

Remark. I studied quickly, I’ll say I studied the

00:26:21

optimization system for

00:26:23

Smart video. Well, in the sense of films that

00:26:27

are shown on Smart TV, and it turned out that they are these

00:26:30

systems that optimize the

00:26:33

movie picture on large screens, they are

00:26:36

based on power networks, made in China and

00:26:39

therefore they are real They make all the actors of all

00:26:42

the films a little Chinese, they

00:26:45

improve them a little, but from the point of view of

00:26:46

the picture, it’s true, they make them all,

00:26:49

even Julia Roberts, even BD Pete,

00:26:52

they make them all a little Chinese.

00:26:54

But this is such a lyrical digression. And what

00:26:57

I like most about facial recognition It’s been a long time

00:26:59

since I saw this article, I liked it the most,

00:27:02

these are really examples

00:27:05

of makeup, which means they break these facial

00:27:07

recognition systems, when there are

00:27:09

such slashes across the whole face, so

00:27:12

black, some kind of

00:27:14

triangles, circles that simply

00:27:16

confuse the system so that it cannot

00:27:18

understand where your eyes are where your mouth is where your nose is

00:27:20

and you walk like this, beautifully well

00:27:22

painted and not a single camera

00:27:24

recognizes you. But in general it’s real.

00:27:26

That’s what Misha used to say. Volkov are

00:27:29

afraid not to go into the forest. Well, that is, well, in

00:27:32

modern life you have to

00:27:33

exist in such a way that you have to to know that

00:27:35

you are recognized, so I don’t see

00:27:38

any way to hide from these other than

00:27:41

really like celebrities wear

00:27:43

caps with huge black glasses and

00:27:45

so on And so I do

00:27:47

n’t really

00:27:48

see any other way Yes, let me go in order, there is

00:27:51

what advises then what is it like, this is the

00:27:55

first thing they advise to control your

00:27:58

own image Well, like, if

00:28:01

you don’t have these photographs, there are no cops, yes,

00:28:04

they cannot teach Nero

00:28:06

to recognize you, as it were, it’s actually very good

00:28:09

advice, but in fact, don’t

00:28:11

follow it because the cops

00:28:14

have photographs you from the passport

00:28:17

office, and then where else did you hand over there?

00:28:20

Maybe there was a foreigner handing over something

00:28:22

else and all these photographs they have,

00:28:24

here they are

00:28:28

from my criminal case where they

00:28:31

identified me as the administrator of the

00:28:35

channel for Telecom, they took our broadcast

00:28:38

point by the way, where I myself said

00:28:40

that I was the presenter of the Gra channel for Telecom

00:28:43

And then they sat and compared it with my

00:28:45

passport photo when there I don’t

00:28:47

know how old I was there, I don’t know,

00:28:48

35 years old, probably this photo was like

00:28:52

they ate it was from their

00:28:56

men there they somehow

00:28:59

tried to agree with each other about this one or the wrong one

00:29:01

there, these verbal writings earlobe

00:29:04

distant something there, well, some

00:29:06

kind of pleasant, absolutely, and so

00:29:08

they have photographs. This is enough, in

00:29:09

fact, that modern neurons

00:29:11

can teach them

00:29:13

and recognize quite reliably, let’s say

00:29:16

modern neural networks

00:29:20

recognize faces much better than people

00:29:23

themselves. Here’s the story. Well,

00:29:26

because they have a better memory,

00:29:28

so don’t give photos to cops. It’s a

00:29:31

good idea. But it’s not actually

00:29:33

feasible, but you can, for example, not give

00:29:36

photos to banks. some

00:29:38

Sberbank there is already constantly demanding

00:29:41

that you don’t give any

00:29:43

voice samples. This is also the same story.

00:29:46

True, they can call

00:29:48

you again and say you are such and

00:29:50

such, you will already give them a voice sample,

00:29:53

this will also be used against you

00:29:55

here is the second part now Please excuse me

00:29:58

before you continue Mish

00:29:59

Remember the second part I’ll just quickly

00:30:01

play an interactive game I see here that in the

00:30:03

chat Vasya purr means he says that a

00:30:06

mask can save from facial recognition

00:30:09

nothing like that means even in a pandemic

00:30:13

I took my children to school There they installed

00:30:15

these face scanners at the entrance to the

00:30:17

security school and they perfectly pierce the mask,

00:30:20

they are just in the thermal

00:30:21

range there, in some kind of non-visible

00:30:24

spectrum, they see everything and

00:30:26

recognize faces normally, so they mas Well, listen,

00:30:28

if the iPhone even has a camera that can be trained on a mask,

00:30:32

that’s it in general here I

00:30:36

just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that we

00:30:37

read all the comments, we see everything that you

00:30:39

write, so write again, thank you for

00:30:42

taking on what Grisha usually takes on,

00:30:44

yes, yes, like, subscribe,

00:30:47

bell, we all, we, we read everything,

00:30:50

we see even then the comment to the yub Yes, I did

00:30:53

n’t include a comment today and

00:30:55

now I really regret it, in

00:30:56

short, about these, don’t give

00:30:58

examples about how you can

00:31:00

cover your face, well, you’ll need a mask, then you

00:31:03

’ll also need dark glasses,

00:31:05

impenetrable, and really a cap, but in in

00:31:07

this form, too, as if you won’t walk much on the street,

00:31:09

you will be so-so

00:31:11

more attention, on the contrary, you will attract

00:31:12

any cop you helmet motorcycle helmet

00:31:16

By the way, yes, a motorcycle helmet

00:31:19

probably Yes, indeed, a motorcycle

00:31:20

helmet will really save which is now

00:31:21

tinted there with a visor with this then It

00:31:24

will look bad again I am in a helmet you can

00:31:28

wear Apple Vision, this is something that Apple

00:31:31

Vision is unlikely to save. But a gas mask can

00:31:33

easily. Yes, a gas mask. Yes, it can easily

00:31:36

save.

00:31:44

in my opinion, this does

00:31:46

n’t work either Grisha said, I just

00:31:48

remember the program that, well, they kind of learned

00:31:50

to fight with this too, and

00:31:53

I think this is also, well, such

00:31:55

a story. Well, imagine you are walking. Your

00:31:57

face is painted, well, that is, you are walking down the street, your

00:31:59

face is painted again. any

00:32:01

cop stops you Yes and you understand you

00:32:03

need uh Listen you need paint that is

00:32:06

invisible to the eye but the camera is in the way Neo

00:32:11

And yes yes I say yes well and then I would

00:32:15

then ask for paint which is there I don’t

00:32:16

know anti-gravity gives more Well listen I

00:32:20

’m sure that

00:32:21

uh well maybe it’s just a

00:32:24

very expensive solution, I’m sure there may

00:32:26

be such a solution,

00:32:28

just how can I tell you? I’m a Chemist

00:32:31

by incomplete education and well, I can

00:32:35

roughly imagine how it is, well, that

00:32:38

is, the camera sees differently from the way we understand the eye,

00:32:40

since they are different cameras

00:32:43

There are some cameras in

00:32:47

some range, most of the cameras,

00:32:49

just

00:32:50

look, go on the subway, look at

00:32:52

these cops, they are standing there, you can literally

00:32:54

see What cameras are all clearly

00:32:56

visible there, and I don’t know

00:32:57

if some kind of paint will help Well, that’s the

00:33:00

short story. It seems to me that it’s

00:33:02

not really working in fact, if

00:33:05

you do average makeup from the cover of a

00:33:08

magazine where there is some top model, you

00:33:11

and I, here’s

00:33:12

the lip one, we’ll go according to another article

00:33:16

without any recognition without

00:33:17

any recognition there is also a group of ki

00:33:20

they would also have a wonderful

00:33:25

May you know, this is all with makeup

00:33:29

dates The third third way is what they

00:33:31

suggest doing on T-shirts, by the way, it’s a

00:33:33

cool, interesting idea. Well,

00:33:35

you’re making another face on T-shirts. I don’t know,

00:33:38

and well, like, they will recognize you as

00:33:40

two people at the same time. Well, it’s

00:33:42

true, that is, even Pay

00:33:44

attention there more or less smart

00:33:46

cameras that have a

00:33:48

facial recognition function. There they recognize

00:33:50

monuments. Sometimes it happens that you take a photo of a

00:33:52

monument, some face there, and it also puts a

00:33:54

square on it; this monument also

00:33:56

puts a square on it; they

00:33:57

gave me a white T-shirt with a

00:33:59

black car belt on it; there is a know, something

00:34:03

like this too the situation is

00:34:05

just, well, some face of Putin,

00:34:07

for example, a face Well, firstly, this

00:34:09

will also be strange, yes, although now in

00:34:12

Russia, maybe some I don’t know

00:34:15

this one, what was his name, God, they

00:34:17

killed him on the plane of this Prigozhin, that’s

00:34:20

him like, probably some guy with

00:34:22

Prigozhin on a T-shirt

00:34:24

IP because your face will still be

00:34:28

visible if you are wanted, then

00:34:30

they will look for you. Why is he wanted,

00:34:31

he is our hero, you are

00:34:34

your hero Oh well, in short who is on the wanted list for

00:34:37

Navalny, but again they will go to

00:34:38

jail for Navalny I don’t know who my

00:34:40

face is made of I’m on

00:34:42

the wanted list, that’s all Booth is asking what’s the

00:34:45

idiot on your T-shirt But this is

00:34:47

the most that will lead to anything That is, I do

00:34:49

n’t think this works very well either

00:34:50

such a story

00:34:53

about these, the only thing I

00:34:55

liked about the jellyfish was

00:34:57

masks and T-shirts. They also discuss

00:34:59

masks and

00:35:01

T-shirts there, by the way. You can also make masks with your face.

00:35:03

Well, yes, and by the way, there are masks,

00:35:07

again masks. If you bother with that,

00:35:09

how to eat with paints masks that do not

00:35:11

let through are not infrared, color is not

00:35:13

Ultraviolet, they can also be made

00:35:14

some kind of metallized, for example,

00:35:16

and this too will not be hockey hockey

00:35:20

Yes, well, is it better again?

00:35:33

turn to social

00:35:36

networks Well, in order to again

00:35:37

train your neurons in

00:35:39

order to search well by faces,

00:35:42

just make some resources, you

00:35:45

should probably make several of these

00:35:47

accounts on Facebook in Odnoklassniki in

00:35:49

VK here Izhi

00:35:55

Yuku

00:35:57

Well, another

00:35:58

person Here they will look and

00:36:02

find and there, well, it’s not me. Yes,

00:36:05

in general, you can create such a paid

00:36:06

service that creates 150 false

00:36:09

accounts for you. Moreover, I remember that in

00:36:12

fact, at the dawn of LiveJournal at the end of the 2000s,

00:36:17

people came to my friends at the company and

00:36:19

said what we want Boro with a

00:36:22

certain account so that it doesn’t

00:36:24

get out anywhere in you Is it possible to

00:36:27

give some money to the spout so that this

00:36:30

very account has been erased, that means they

00:36:34

went to the spout, he sent them there It’s

00:36:36

clear Where So then they created 50

00:36:40

accounts very similar to this

00:36:42

person and they poured a lot of

00:36:44

garbage there and as a result they found exactly

00:36:47

that person whom they I won’t

00:36:49

call him Who means they drowned they

00:36:51

drowned him in the search garbage and the

00:36:53

clogging is generally a good story

00:36:55

then

00:36:57

where is the screensaver that you move away from

00:37:00

the screen and he starts going to

00:37:02

different sites for you, poking, searching for

00:37:05

different words, going to different social networks,

00:37:07

conducting some activities there. So, as a

00:37:10

result, such huge garbage

00:37:13

comes from you White noise as a result of

00:37:15

which you are actually Well, it’s very difficult to

00:37:18

identify to find there Among everything

00:37:25

this

00:37:27

blocking of these cookies doesn’t mean

00:37:31

that it’s difficult to determine what your

00:37:34

interests are, this is basically a fight, even

00:37:36

more likely with advertising systems so that they

00:37:38

don’t understand where to target you. Well,

00:37:40

maybe Well, that’s a different story

00:37:43

about the littering of

00:37:45

this search results. It seems to me Quite It’s a

00:37:47

good idea for yourself If you’re

00:37:48

really afraid there, you can do the task,

00:37:51

how to do

00:37:53

something like this, here’s how it will help I don’t know,

00:37:57

they use it They don’t use it, but once again

00:38:00

repeat that they have

00:38:03

passport photos in the chat, they write what if This is

00:38:06

bad advice from Mikhail, like, you

00:38:07

put someone else’s photo and they will mean

00:38:10

it will be harmful to that person, and I’ll tell

00:38:13

the territory that if this is a photo of Pete,

00:38:16

then it will be very difficult to harm him. Well,

00:38:18

secondly, you can now

00:38:20

generate Neuro only. In general, people

00:38:23

who do not

00:38:25

exist

00:38:27

have a problem. with nagen these

00:38:30

faces, other neurons also

00:38:32

train them, they are just good

00:38:35

enough

00:38:37

to train a neuron. It’s unlikely. But in

00:38:41

reality, take some other person’s photo of the

00:38:43

left guy, take it and put it up. Well, to

00:38:45

hell with him, it’s also advisable to

00:38:47

know someone I guess we should

00:38:49

do this directly to some

00:38:57

deputies. Yes, I’ll put this one

00:38:58

on my avatar everywhere now, what’s

00:39:00

his name,

00:39:02

Lord, the deputy

00:39:05

was all beautiful, they’re all beautiful,

00:39:09

vodkas, I’ll put vodkas everywhere,

00:39:11

not gorelkin, and gorelkin vodkas, I do

00:39:15

n’t remember what

00:39:16

difference does it make, I’ll put them all

00:39:20

in sequence on my

00:39:22

avatar Well, great Okay So we

00:39:26

have another topic there, I’m the only one Specially

00:39:29

for Grisha I don’t know If you’re

00:39:31

interested in the

00:39:33

last topic But the penultimate one is

00:39:36

right up your alley and is interesting to everyone, and

00:39:40

well really, you quickly forget about it, I

00:39:43

know, I know, I caught myself thinking

00:39:47

that at the moment of some kind of failure, everyone

00:39:52

cares so much about what happened and everyone is so

00:39:55

interested and that’s it, as soon as the failure

00:39:57

goes away, you completely forget about this

00:39:59

moment, it seems to you that it was a year

00:40:01

ago That’s literally and so yes,

00:40:04

in the morning, here we are, we have a big problem with the

00:40:07

morning, we always think about

00:40:10

talking about yesterday’s failure or not

00:40:11

talking about it because no one gives a damn about what

00:40:13

happened yesterday Yes, we don’t

00:40:16

give a damn That’s it But nevertheless,

00:40:19

this week On this week not a year ago

00:40:21

not last week there was one of the

00:40:25

largest failures on Facebook and Instagram

00:40:27

in the last many years, this is the second failure in

00:40:31

a row. So it’s the Houthis’ fault. It’s the

00:40:36

Houthis’ fault that they

00:40:42

somehow chew through some cables, but Grisha has already

00:40:45

once explained that if the cables

00:40:48

had been chewed through, then the entire Internet would

00:40:51

not have said hello and not a specific

00:40:53

service; this particular service does

00:40:57

not have cables along the bottom of the Red Sea, but

00:41:00

nevertheless, first of all, you understand what

00:41:03

happened there. You Mish figured it out now, I’ll

00:41:06

quickly add Sash there There was a failure not

00:41:09

only in Facebook Instagram but also in

00:41:11

Google services, which is important, Google also

00:41:14

had it, but not on such a large scale and it was not

00:41:16

fatal. And here, in general,

00:41:19

even for a specific service, I can even

00:41:21

explain which one and why. Well, the tube was there,

00:41:24

but a little shorter. What happened in Well,

00:41:28

Facebook is a huge corporation that has

00:41:30

a lot of data centers, well, there in

00:41:33

Europe, I think they corrected me there. I

00:41:34

thought that they were the only one. At the beginning they had such a

00:41:36

policy, like one center in Sweden.

00:41:39

Leo is called a city, but it turns out

00:41:41

they still have one in Denmark data center, in my opinion, is

00:41:43

still in the Netherlands somewhere else, I forgot where

00:41:46

it doesn’t matter, in short, there are already not one or two

00:41:48

data centers in Europe, now

00:41:50

look at the map Where

00:41:52

is the Red Sea, if there was a transfer there,

00:41:57

then tell me How would this

00:41:59

affect the work of Facebook in

00:42:04

Europe? Well, it’s so dumb, such a dacha. The devil

00:42:08

knows your distributed Internet, where is that, what is the

00:42:11

butterfly effect

00:42:15

happening, listen to those who

00:42:17

started explaining this failure of Facebook,

00:42:19

[ __ ] him, spit in his face right away,

00:42:22

never ever again. don’t listen, he’s not

00:42:24

only not an expert, he wanted to somehow deceive you, to [ __ ]

00:42:27

you, he wanted to [ __ ]

00:42:29

you a little bit now now now now Mish

00:42:30

Wait, I’m not an expert either, now

00:42:32

I’ll portray this person as the

00:42:34

one you’re very fond of,

00:42:36

but I want to try to

00:42:38

reproduce his logic means there the idea

00:42:41

was that well, that is, those who

00:42:43

Explain what is really connected with

00:42:44

these cables, which are either the Houthis

00:42:47

or like with the Nordic streams, which means

00:42:50

some kind of saboteurs, CIA spies there personally,

00:42:54

Tom Cruise went down there with his flank,

00:42:56

cut it with a jigsaw this very

00:42:58

cable is even several, four cables

00:43:00

are called there, everything is in detail, or they

00:43:03

dragged it with an anchor, as they

00:43:04

said there, and so on, so that means

00:43:07

they destroyed, as they said, the

00:43:10

wired connection of Europe and Asia. And if we now

00:43:13

assume that, for example, Asian

00:43:16

content, Asian tiktok videos, kpop and

00:43:20

so on, that they are very popular with us

00:43:22

in Europe and if we assume that it

00:43:25

was some

00:43:27

cdn of Facebook

00:43:30

Instagram, Google tube and so on

00:43:32

that used popular

00:43:35

content

00:43:36

from Asia to Europe. Then let’s assume that

00:43:40

you have

00:43:42

Facebook pages with recommendations generated on the server and it

00:43:45

this one goes to the cache where we have

00:43:48

popular content where there are videos, for

00:43:49

example, in my rice I have about

00:43:53

30% of these are Indian videos for some reason I don’t

00:43:57

know why I didn’t do anything for

00:44:00

this but I have a look at you

00:44:03

I have an IP crash. Well, by the way,

00:44:06

you will laugh at me, but in

00:44:08

regular videos more Indian people have started

00:44:10

to appear, but I know why. I once

00:44:14

clicked on CNN 188. And it turned out to be an Indian

00:44:18

CNN, but it wasn’t him, but he was reporting live

00:44:21

from a funeral. Navalny Now I have

00:44:23

Indian videos just some kind of nightmare

00:44:26

Apparently I also have Indian

00:44:27

videos with all these mopeds there and

00:44:30

so on, that’s why if the page

00:44:34

that is going to be for you is

00:44:36

absolutely the hardest, if you have it

00:44:38

open in someone’s browser right now - of

00:44:40

you, dear users, it’s open in

00:44:42

the browser, that means Facebook, you press Ctrl

00:44:46

and look, that means in the Task Manager

00:44:48

How much memory do you have, this browser window

00:44:53

annealing be gigabytes, there’s just a

00:44:56

monstrous volume for

00:44:57

this page to generate and If this

00:44:59

generating page is deprived of half the

00:45:03

content of that who just tasted it

00:45:05

was cut off, maybe just from your

00:45:07

Facebook, this is a fantasy just

00:45:09

about those bad people that you

00:45:10

Misha were talking about No, this is what actually happened

00:45:13

Well, how do I know I Well, first of all,

00:45:16

I have a good friend I know in

00:45:18

actually in but Facebook but

00:45:21

Network That's who, in general,

00:45:23

actually from the very beginning told me a

00:45:24

secret burn don't tell anyone Mish Mish Don't

00:45:28

tell anyone don't need to don't tell anyone

00:45:31

but that was before they published

00:45:33

themselves they already published there postmortem

00:45:35

Well, this is a preliminary type, in short, what

00:45:37

happened they naturally have some kind of

00:45:41

process about updating

00:45:43

all these network configurations, there are many

00:45:45

data centers that somehow

00:45:47

have to communicate with each other, a lot of all these

00:45:49

syns and so on, well, this is the network

00:45:50

infrastructure that also there from time to

00:45:53

time it is necessary to modernize, supplement,

00:45:56

and so on. So they made an update like this,

00:46:00

which was supposed to prevent the

00:46:02

occurrence of errors. And here the

00:46:05

same old programmer thing played a role, and that the

00:46:08

program stops working when it has an

00:46:12

odd number of errors. Well, that is, like one

00:46:15

error extinguishes another error Yes, and

00:46:17

the program continues to work, apparently

00:46:18

they made a mistake somewhere, apparently they made a

00:46:21

mistake by one, so they got an

00:46:23

odd number of errors in this system, the system stopped

00:46:25

working, they rushed to update And

00:46:28

since this is such a process, it’s not

00:46:30

fast, by the way, it’s very similar to what

00:46:33

you remember a week ago, I think we were

00:46:35

discussing a glitch on the Russian Internet

00:46:37

when the network was being updated, exactly the

00:46:41

same thing happened only on Facebook. So

00:46:43

they started updating all these

00:46:45

devices, they

00:46:46

rolled out an update, an update, something

00:46:49

went wrong in the update, and in the end the network

00:46:51

collapsed. Everything is quite simple. why

00:46:54

this affected the network,

00:46:56

in fact, there is an explanation. This is

00:46:58

my hypothesis, I don’t know. True or false,

00:47:01

you’ll laugh But this is the Facebook advertising

00:47:04

network Atlas, it’s called It’s

00:47:06

quite big, well, that is, Facebook is

00:47:09

kind of big there, in

00:47:11

my opinion 30% at least the

00:47:13

American advertising market

00:47:14

belongs to Facebook, right there 40 Google,

00:47:18

in my opinion Okay, I won’t lie, I don’t remember

00:47:20

exactly the numbers, I didn’t look at something, but you

00:47:22

can also pour in everything, so that’s when

00:47:26

this advertising network collapsed, all the

00:47:28

rest of these so-called rtb

00:47:30

Real advertising networks began to request Well, it’s

00:47:35

like another advertising network that was

00:47:37

previously occupied by Meta Well, this Alas

00:47:40

was occupied and the server’s catches couldn’t cope with

00:47:44

it, well, that is, roughly speaking, they should have

00:47:45

doubled in size at once. So

00:47:49

they don’t issue this advertising twice as much withstood collapsed This, by the way,

00:47:53

sounds

00:47:54

plausible WTO ae Well, at

00:47:56

some point there, literally there, too,

00:47:58

for 30 minutes or so, and there were glitches in Google,

00:48:02

but they weren’t all over Google, they were just

00:48:04

in the Google advertising network, that’s

00:48:06

also like maybe not only

00:48:08

Google, that is, in fact, if you

00:48:09

get player number one and you

00:48:12

start contacting the second to the

00:48:13

third to the fourth, then maybe

00:48:15

they even started contacting the

00:48:17

fifth to the sixth who also suddenly

00:48:19

appeared in the rtb system on first position

00:48:22

and they definitely didn’t expect it and couldn’t

00:48:25

stand it And at that moment this

00:48:29

sip started, well, absolutely right. Something like

00:48:31

this, Sasha, I wanted to

00:48:34

take one cart there too.

00:48:36

Here, well, as you know, I keep an eye on the

00:48:39

blocking that’s right, that’s one

00:48:41

of my main tasks, that’s what I’m looking at. When

00:48:45

YouTube actually gets blocked in Russia,

00:48:49

I have some bad news, just

00:48:52

to kind of, well, I’d like to let

00:48:53

everyone know first of all. So Sasha is there.

00:48:55

How’s ours? This dispute I really wasn’t

00:48:59

Pari didn’t take part Well because with Grisha

00:49:00

yes you have Please remind me There are

00:49:04

positions about that YouTube when

00:49:07

it blocks Oh I already won Because it was

00:49:10

n’t blocked until the end of 2023

00:49:13

By the way I think that they won’t block

00:49:15

I think that YouTube, as well as probably

00:49:18

Wikipedia,

00:49:21

will wait for the mouth That is, r will come than

00:49:25

the blocking of the tube Well, then it’s

00:49:28

all about cheburnet We’re getting closer

00:49:31

and closer since last Monday, since

00:49:34

March 4th, uploads have stopped coming Well, that

00:49:38

is, here are the changes to these

00:49:39

blockings in the open registry.

00:49:42

prohibited resources since March 4th, the last one

00:49:45

was unloaded exactly at 12 o'clock. Here, a

00:49:47

couple more couple of lines still

00:49:50

popped up. That's all, and it stopped

00:49:52

coming there, while we know for sure that

00:49:54

sites are blocked, that's

00:49:56

what this means. This means that

00:49:58

now these are all the locks have ceased to

00:50:01

be at least somewhat transparent Now

00:50:04

they completely

00:50:05

carry out all the locks on these same

00:50:09

tspu devices So, as if you add them there

00:50:11

Remember, our Zone ru fell Then ours

00:50:14

fell. Actually, the tspu itself, with some

00:50:16

updates, was also not taken out

00:50:19

them Now we see that their

00:50:23

uploads have disappeared and now it’s as if we do

00:50:26

n’t even know what’s

00:50:28

trendy there now Yes, now they’re starting

00:50:30

to block the resource, we don’t know at all, but for

00:50:33

example, with their mouths they say oh well, they know

00:50:37

what’s there a number of sites are already under the

00:50:40

new law that concerns

00:50:42

VPN blocking Yes, remember, this is a

00:50:44

blocking of e-resources about bypassing

00:50:48

blocking, which came into force on March 1,

00:50:51

they claim that they are

00:50:53

blocking these resources, but we do

00:50:56

n’t see them uploading there, here’s a record a record like this

00:50:59

appeared, Lord, there 154, in my opinion,

00:51:02

the article there is something shorter there 154 they

00:51:05

are expressed there in these numbers, which I

00:51:07

myself don’t understand well, those are the ones

00:51:10

that are connected with VP So And there are zero

00:51:12

records, but we know for sure that these pins

00:51:15

are blocked accordingly they block

00:51:17

them only on TSP, why is this done

00:51:19

so that we don’t see what is starting

00:51:21

to block? And why is this necessary because

00:51:23

they apparently want to block something?

00:51:26

I’ll remind you that March 17 is coming. So on March 17

00:51:31

at noon we are planning a

00:51:33

big All-Russian action when Well,

00:51:35

people will just come to the polling stations

00:51:37

in order to show their position Yes,

00:51:39

besides what is happening now in Russia

00:51:41

This is legal, no one can

00:51:44

ban it But they can,

00:51:47

let’s say, think at the same time Yes, they know how it

00:51:49

happens there, these antin regimes and so

00:51:51

on So they can

00:51:56

try to turn off some of

00:51:59

these news sites right here on 12 Well, for example, so

00:52:00

that no one in Russia sees I don’t

00:52:02

know the FBK broadcast which Most likely

00:52:05

will be about how this day is going This

00:52:08

action is taking place and perhaps messengers

00:52:12

because for so that it would be more

00:52:14

difficult to

00:52:15

coordinate there to coordinate with

00:52:17

each other at this

00:52:20

event the advice will

00:52:24

remain There are places we have grown by the way since the

00:52:27

last time when we were talking

00:52:29

we were talking about the VPN generator we were talking about

00:52:31

the generator we have grown twice so

00:52:34

we still have some resources but they are

00:52:36

not endless either If you connect during this

00:52:38

week, you will become a foreman and

00:52:41

we will distribute access to VP to your friends and acquaintances.

00:52:44

This means that you will remain there in a very

00:52:46

poor connection. That's what you know, there

00:52:48

is such a Doomsday Clock, yes. Do you remember

00:52:50

when there will be a nuclear

00:52:52

war soon? there without one minute

00:52:55

12 I kind of think that this figure for the

00:52:58

approach to Chebur is quite close to you Mish

00:53:01

in the chat they ask a question

00:53:03

that you are not obligated to answer at all,

00:53:05

but they claim that you yourself promised to

00:53:07

answer this question where

00:53:08

the funding for the project comes from, but

00:53:11

this can be no funding for

00:53:14

the project Why did I answer, in my opinion,

00:53:16

the funding of the project comes at the

00:53:18

expense of, firstly, large institutional

00:53:21

Well, large institutional donors

00:53:24

in the form of all sorts of private foundations and several

00:53:28

Russian citizens invested money in us with the

00:53:31

goal that we

00:53:32

provide services, I can’t tell them their

00:53:35

names there are several of them there, they just

00:53:37

Why hide the heroes let us use our last

00:53:41

names now I can’t say

00:53:43

everything unfortunately I can’t say

00:53:46

But these are citizens of Russia who

00:53:48

would like to

00:53:51

have their dreams come true

00:53:54

with Dmitry Anatol That’s who we have

00:53:58

there most interested in the Internet,

00:53:59

of course they are all there on the sly

00:54:02

sponsors, please check them out,

00:54:05

that’s what it actually is, and you know what, well,

00:54:10

we had another Topic and I don’t know,

00:54:14

maybe it was for Grisha

00:54:17

directly, I was counting on it, but

00:54:20

since he’s not there, maybe you’ll have

00:54:22

something to

00:54:24

say about this fine of 2 billion dollars

00:54:29

in in relation to

00:54:31

Apple, this is an

00:54:34

Anti-monopoly Yes, an anti-monopoly case

00:54:39

with the SFA, but if you have comments, it

00:54:42

would be great, if not, then we can

00:54:45

leave on this, wow, I have a cart for

00:54:47

half an hour Well, give me an Oscar to the Crown The thing is,

00:54:50

again, I’m this sa neko Prim

00:54:55

rather, even a poppy and a hater, and I think

00:54:57

that Apple needs to be fined, that everything

00:55:00

is fair, but more is needed. It’s only

00:55:03

0.5% of its turnover, it’s not

00:55:06

serious at all, that’s why they’re completely greedy,

00:55:09

that they’re now taking 30% from

00:55:11

payments there, which means the

00:55:14

developers are there. overkill and so

00:55:18

on, here's an absolutely fascist

00:55:24

organization on the case,

00:55:26

say something on the case, well, there's a fine there,

00:55:29

as far as I remember, it's like 40 million dollars and

00:55:32

like

00:55:33

1000 800 With some kind of

00:55:37

protective story, this kind of protective

00:55:40

story, this fine is 2 billion firstly, and

00:55:43

this is the third largest fine for an

00:55:47

international corporation in Europe, the

00:55:50

first two places were Google in 18th and

00:55:52

this year they were fined for this right

00:55:55

here in this article there is, I’m

00:55:56

not making anything up 4 By two parts

00:55:58

there is a small fine and the rest is

00:56:00

some kind of protective fine, in

00:56:03

short, what can I say, yes, this is an

00:56:05

antitrust case that

00:56:07

was initiated by Spotify and it

00:56:11

concerned the fact that there are these horse

00:56:13

commissions that Apple takes for the fact that

00:56:16

some at least some Payments there are

00:56:17

made in favor of third parties, but I have an

00:56:21

ambivalent attitude towards this, I honestly

00:56:23

don’t know who to join as

00:56:25

handsome or

00:56:27

rich. But the point is that in the

00:56:31

original it was beautiful or

00:56:33

I’m rich here after all. Yes, Well,

00:56:37

there seems to be a problem here, in fact,

00:56:39

Apple actually occupies

00:56:42

and this position in the market is

00:56:44

called league polya, as far as I remember,

00:56:46

Or duopoly when two players are exactly

00:56:49

Dupoly When there are two players who

00:56:51

sometimes even

00:56:52

come to an agreement with each other We remember Yes, that Apple

00:56:55

paid Google, in my opinion, paid Lou for the fact

00:56:57

that they inserted them into the

00:56:58

search engine by default, they did it

00:57:01

there too, in my opinion, in America

00:57:03

they were fined, in short, we are dealing with dua fields and uh

00:57:06

dua poly, she is close to that become

00:57:08

there to conclude some kind of these

00:57:11

horseshoe

00:57:13

agreements in order to, as it were, maintain the

00:57:15

market and milk as much money as possible from poor citizens,

00:57:19

these situations occur in the market

00:57:22

quite often, they happen there about

00:57:25

once every 10 years if you look at it If you

00:57:27

remember again like in the

00:57:29

nineties of the nineties or at the beginning of the

00:57:32

thousandth they even wanted to dismember the

00:57:34

Microsoft company, remember this was the case yes They

00:57:36

held the monopoly then in the

00:57:40

tenths they tried to punish the

00:57:42

Intel company in this way, there was also an

00:57:45

antitrust case against them, they waited and now,

00:57:48

well, it’s like the Turn has come

00:57:51

before swearing, it was half an autumn to

00:57:55

tear the browser off from the operating system

00:57:58

Yes, and they successfully tore it off, as a result,

00:58:01

Microsoft successfully tore off the browser I

00:58:03

mean Yes, as a result, yes As a

00:58:06

result, we won, as a result of all this,

00:58:07

Google won, I’ll remind you Yes,

00:58:09

because then the Chrome browser just took over.

00:58:11

That’s what really became

00:58:14

it, yes there was No, there, in my opinion, it

00:58:16

was against Microsoft in the

00:58:17

operating system in the nineties,

00:58:19

according to this pos.

00:58:24

so good,

00:58:27

it’s really not very

00:58:29

good, it’s an anti-monopoly whole

00:58:31

story and it seems like someone should be

00:58:36

dispossessed. Okay, my God, Apple makes it.

00:58:39

Well, it’s a great product that

00:58:41

everyone loves and it makes them really well,

00:58:44

and no, it’s not about what’s there

00:58:46

-that is, there are absolutely crazy

00:58:48

people who buy Apple, I can

00:58:51

afford both phones, Apple

00:58:53

and Android, yes. So when I

00:58:57

recently started choosing a new

00:58:59

phone, well, it turned out that

00:59:01

Apple really wins In all

00:59:02

respects, both in quality and for the price, what’s

00:59:05

most interesting is if

00:59:07

you consider the same hardware for Android phones, they

00:59:10

will also be quite expensive, the same Samsun, that’s

00:59:13

what they are These are older models or

00:59:16

there’s the same Forgive me God Xiaomi That’s that one

00:59:20

or Huawei which are also older

00:59:22

models they also cost quite

00:59:23

decent money by the way Well, Postav

00:59:26

Try try to put Sberbank

00:59:28

online but that’s a different story Let’s

00:59:31

not mix

00:59:33

a little cutlets and flies, as

00:59:36

we have one aspiring

00:59:39

authoritarian Leader likes to say Here and More precisely, well, in

00:59:43

short, okay, something has been agreed upon, in short,

00:59:45

the meaning is approximately that Indeed,

00:59:47

there is such a problem, but at the same

00:59:49

time, it seems like the NOC is satisfied with the Armed Forces,

00:59:53

so the

00:59:55

story is scrapped. A more interesting story.

00:59:57

This is about the markets. Today,

00:59:59

literally Apple published more

01:00:02

characteristics of

01:00:03

these, which, like, will not be the Apple

01:00:07

Store, so when it will be possible to

01:00:09

create it in the same place the requirement is completely

01:00:11

crazy Well, like, it’s prohibited there

01:00:14

if the user installed some kind of

01:00:16

program from a non-Apple company and he leaves the

01:00:19

territory

01:00:20

of the European Union, there are

01:00:23

a lot of such programs there, you

01:00:26

just read it, it’s very funny. And here

01:00:29

you know that I kind of have an

01:00:30

idea - then it’s as if I’ve always

01:00:33

fought against states in favor of it, that’s

01:00:37

how long anyone remembers me, probably

01:00:39

everything, I’ve always done this. But in

01:00:43

this case, I see that it’s like a

01:00:45

corporation is literally bending over an entire

01:00:46

state, in particular the European Union. Well, that

01:00:49

is, it’s not even the state that’s judging That is, well,

01:00:53

somehow they just

01:00:57

ate it up there just a little bit. Yes, they

01:01:00

literally lost the banks. Yes, literally, on the

01:01:02

one hand, it seems like you should be happy, that

01:01:04

is, they can answer something on the

01:01:07

other hand,

01:01:09

and I immediately see Yes, what are there - then

01:01:12

again there are attempts

01:01:13

And to please the same Putin Yes And

01:01:17

all these Russians are all

01:01:19

stubborn, there’s something there too, some

01:01:21

conversations somewhere, something there, they returned

01:01:23

someone there, some kind of Sberbank, they again

01:01:25

rolled into it, as it were let it be

01:01:28

sanctioned Why was

01:01:30

Sberbank removed? Well, simply because

01:01:33

Sberbank pays the money, that is, it

01:01:34

turns out that it is under sanctions. That is,

01:01:36

it turns out that Apple should take

01:01:38

money from a sanctioned company and

01:01:40

also fall under sanctions. Well, according to the law.

01:01:43

Well, you don’t have to explain it to me. I’m just saying

01:01:44

that the fascist Apple operating system does

01:01:47

not provide direct access to the file

01:01:50

system from our democratic Hades.

01:01:53

Where you can directly see all

01:01:55

directories, directly copy files and

01:01:58

read them back, or merge them with

01:02:01

viruses from anywhere, but your Apple

01:02:03

prohibits picking your nose, so

01:02:06

it’s true but on the other hand, Apple’s

01:02:09

operating system is more stable

01:02:10

and it doesn’t crash, it doesn’t collapse,

01:02:13

and in general everything is

01:02:15

fine with it, yes. Well, now we can

01:02:17

complete our program with a calm heart, it seems like

01:02:19

all the planned topics. I’ll be

01:02:22

honest, it’s interesting that it turned

01:02:25

out that Look, as if Misha you can’t

01:02:28

stop there, he could have stayed for another 20 minutes. And

01:02:31

if you let Oscar disperse in his hate,

01:02:35

sit for another two hours. But you know,

01:02:39

all good things come to an end sooner or later, it’s time for the

01:02:41

guys to drink tea, so

01:02:44

I’ll go too, thank you very much to Oscar

01:02:46

Tanba and Mikhail Klima our

01:02:49

wonderful bram the best

01:02:52

expert

01:02:53

Thank you likes Subscribe Oh that's

01:02:56

right we are waiting for the return of Grisha and everyone

01:02:59

else jis Worcester writes in the chat that

01:03:02

Subscribe likes and so on

01:03:04

I repeat too Yes everything is correct

01:03:06

put everything I will come to you at night and

01:03:09

scare you Thank you everything is happy for now

01:03:23

Bye

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