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00:00:19
Hello Julia, glad to welcome you,00:00:21
glad to see you both How are you in the mood?00:00:25
Well, how can I00:00:27
say yes, I’m working on a book00:00:31
little by little, I’m writing this interesting news,00:00:34
I’d like to start with a New York00:00:37
Times article about the future counter-offensive of00:00:40
Ukraine, where journalists report00:00:42
that Ukraine is preparing to begin This is the00:00:45
very thing counter-offensive already in May, the publication00:00:48
writes that without a decisive Victory,00:00:49
support for Ukraine from the West00:00:51
may weaken and Kiev may be00:00:54
under pressure; partners may demand to00:00:57
start serious negotiations with the Russian00:00:58
Federation to end the war. What do you00:01:02
think for the West will be this00:01:05
decisive victory00:01:07
and a breakthrough of the Zaporozhye corridor00:01:10
decisive Victory is not the occupation of Crimea00:01:14
there, it will be a super success, the breakthrough of the00:01:18
Zaporozhye corridor is the only thing that I00:01:20
still know a little.00:01:23
This is a bad habit of quoting a00:01:27
post as something like leaks from the00:01:31
Pentagon and how much more important,00:01:34
for example. If you quote, then00:01:36
quote as a general or quote what he00:01:39
said, maybe they are not so clearly00:01:41
expressed, but what they say is00:01:43
then what they say, but in principle,00:01:46
yes, I agree with the00:01:48
statements of the article and a00:01:53
decisive Victory is correct; the00:01:56
Zaporozhye corridor, then apparently there will be a00:01:59
conversation00:02:00
about the provision of aviation.00:02:04
And if all this does not take place Then what kind of00:02:07
pressure could there be, that is, in what00:02:09
form could this pressure be exerted on00:02:10
Kiev? We will stop supplying you with weapons00:02:13
or politically incline you to00:02:15
negotiate somehow. What could this be?00:02:17
You know, I would still, first of all, not00:02:20
speculate especially publicly about what00:02:23
will happen if it happens And if the offensive00:02:27
fails because somehow it00:02:30
seems to me that it’s not very likely that00:02:31
the offensive Well, let’s just say it wo00:02:33
n’t be possible at all,00:02:38
first of all, it’s generally a bad thing00:02:41
to talk about when what because00:02:43
actually war is such a thing,00:02:45
that’s how competitions find out who00:02:47
comes first, it turns out what happens00:02:49
and In war, as you know, I have no00:02:53
doubt that there are a lot of scenarios00:02:55
being worked out exactly as laid down. It is00:02:57
less joint, and we know that the00:03:01
American military,00:03:05
together with the Ukrainian ones, developed a00:03:07
variety of scenarios, practiced a00:03:10
variety of maneuvers, and it seems to me they simply00:03:13
would not have launched an offensive if they00:03:16
were not confident in its serious success,00:03:19
because there is a case in question, but00:03:21
still it seems to me that these are quite00:03:23
technical things in the sense that they00:03:27
understand00:03:28
How much artillery is needed How many00:03:31
tanks are needed How many fresh troops are needed and so00:03:34
on and I can hardly imagine that the00:03:38
American military, which,00:03:40
unlike American politicians, by the way,00:03:42
clearly provides much more support to the00:03:45
Ukrainian army,00:03:47
but that they do00:03:49
not count the reserves, it’s just that in00:03:52
fact, the00:03:55
number of such00:03:57
materials has recently frightened me. The main standard of which00:03:59
is the following, we will be inclined to00:04:03
in the negotiations, we, our support will00:04:06
weaken if if if if it doesn’t work out,00:04:09
you have one attempt, the same President of the Czech Republic00:04:12
declares this and so on, this is the kind of00:04:14
narrative we are hearing endlessly now, it is being00:04:16
very actively worked on in the media and00:04:18
it confuses me a little; in fact,00:04:23
nothing happens,00:04:46
but I I want to remind you that when in January,00:04:50
when the Russian offensive began00:04:53
after Putin asked for the roof of the shell of the00:04:57
Ministry of Defense building, your00:05:00
humble servant was the first to write that this00:05:03
offensive began after the failure. Well, we00:05:06
will call the consultation negotiations00:05:08
whatever you like, but in general, different approaches00:05:11
that were00:05:13
conducted first in Turkey then to other00:05:16
places with different Putin officials and00:05:19
who looked like this: Give up the00:05:22
Zaporozhye corridor and00:05:25
we will consolidate within the existing borders00:05:28
then Putin sent them because he00:05:31
had because00:05:34
then he asked for00:05:39
Donetsk Lugansk for themselves on their current borders00:05:41
Putin’s own offensive It00:05:44
was just Donetsk is an attempt to be00:05:46
the Donetsk Lugansk current borders and00:05:49
show the party of the world I’m taking my Sally00:05:52
into one that like Manila Kamshid and didn’t give00:05:54
us We’ll take it ourselves accordingly00:05:56
he didn’t take anything and accordingly00:06:00
even then naturally I also had00:06:04
a question What if00:06:06
we take Sullivan wanted such a truce00:06:09
or even something more fundamental00:06:12
because, well, it’s clear that it00:06:15
makes sense to have such conversations only if00:06:18
you go out there and then remove all the hotbeds of00:06:21
tension in some way, if they00:06:24
wanted such a story, then what’s00:06:25
stopping you from returning to the same00:06:28
story after the Ukrainian the army00:06:30
will break through the same Zaporozhye corridors.00:06:32
So here they arise in exactly the same way as00:06:36
what they said; however, I can say00:06:38
that the political00:06:40
meaning of their position was somewhat lost during this time00:06:44
because00:06:46
one of the main arguments was00:06:49
that00:06:51
otherwise Russia would go under China,00:06:54
and since before that in the process00:06:57
there was a medical examination of dolphins in00:06:59
Moscow in which Putin shook hands with00:07:02
him, we know that Putin in Moscow does00:07:05
n’t shake hands with anyone, didn’t00:07:07
save me, why was he just eaten by a00:07:09
pin, you can imagine it, it’s00:07:12
almost like kissing a boot in00:07:15
ancient times.00:07:19
Came out today Very interesting material00:07:22
or Zhigulev how Putin hated00:07:26
Ukraine and started a war, and that means he00:07:29
started there back in00:07:30
2003, even the00:07:34
Orange Revolution started in 2004, how00:07:36
political strategists worked, what infuriated Putin in all00:07:39
this, how he was a recluse, and00:07:42
what books they slipped him, what he read00:07:45
what kind of literature did the authors of this these00:07:48
materials hate Ukraine and the00:07:50
Ukrainians? Yes, in fact, they hated00:07:52
Ukraine and the Ukrainians because they had00:07:54
not yet considered, they consider at all some kind of00:07:56
entity artificially created00:07:58
within the Soviet Union, that00:07:59
there are no Ukrainians, in fact, that now the Americans00:08:02
are helping the Ukrainians, that the Americans are helping everyone00:08:05
took possession and it was absolutely impossible to convince Putin of something,00:08:07
the author leads00:08:10
to the fact that the00:08:11
main person who essentially pushed00:08:14
Putin to this war was Kovalchuk. And00:08:18
Viktor Medvedchuk, as the statement is included00:08:20
in this article, means he convinced Putin00:08:23
that they would greet Russian troops with00:08:25
flowers in hugs and so on and so00:08:28
forth How do you feel about00:08:33
this material I read so I’m ashamed00:08:35
I haven’t read it and I’ll read it with pleasure00:08:38
Where it came out If you say Today00:08:40
it came out I00:08:45
definitely recommend the layout to everyone00:08:48
because it’s a beautiful building and I00:08:52
was thinking about making a transfer myself or at00:08:56
least there may be material on a similar00:08:58
topic, I absolutely agree with the fact that it00:09:01
began At least in 2003,00:09:04
if not earlier,00:09:06
it even started a little earlier. Previously, he00:09:09
was an adviser to the president and describes it00:09:12
quite colorfully, it’s very necessary to describe00:09:15
it, note that00:09:20
in my opinion back in 2001, he visits Kiev,00:09:23
looks around What a joke, then they00:09:28
try to sell him the idea that after all,00:09:31
there was an old Ladoga somewhere. This00:09:34
was some kind of the first Varangian capital,00:09:36
he even comes to excavations in this, in00:09:39
my opinion, old Ladoga, they see two there00:09:42
unearthed rickety huts of00:09:43
some kind A treasure chest was slipped to him, they didn’t00:09:47
slip it yes This is not Kiev, that is, we all00:09:51
apparently had it for me, of course, it took a long time00:09:53
for me at one time it was a shock, of course,00:09:55
his behavior during the Orange00:09:57
Revolution because it seems to me that it00:09:59
clicked in him Basically, then in00:10:01
2003, a very big revolution00:10:03
took place in his brain, as far as I understand,00:10:06
strangely enough. It started with the American war in00:10:09
Iraq because Putin, for00:10:12
some reason, believed that the Americans00:10:14
should consult with him, at least it would be00:10:16
interesting for00:10:19
him not to do this and By the way, this is00:10:23
also an idea that00:10:26
can be trusted, which00:10:30
says that he observed with his own eyes,00:10:41
after all, the war cancer was first about the00:10:44
imprisonment of Khodorkovsky, then because00:10:47
Putin had thoughts for a very long time about00:10:49
becoming a member of NATO; even back in 2005, he did00:10:52
not prevent the Baltic countries00:10:54
from becoming a member NATO But he did this00:10:57
already out of inertia. But in 2003,00:11:00
of course, something clearly clicked in him and he apparently00:11:04
decided that, like, Now that the00:11:06
American Pindos is doing this, then I00:11:09
can do00:11:10
everything and Actually, strangely enough,00:11:14
the arrest of Khodorkovsky is probably a00:11:16
consequence of the war in Iraq and a consequence of00:11:19
Putin’s awareness of the fact that he00:11:23
would like to create the Soviet Union, another00:11:26
thing is that he clearly tried to first00:11:28
create it using the methods familiar to him as an00:11:31
officer of the intelligence services of a hybrid war00:11:34
and It’s quite interesting that you look Yes,00:11:37
first of all, this man,00:11:39
well, how he had all the cards in 2000,00:11:43
he had all the cards, he had a country00:11:45
that was on the starting table,00:11:49
which had a reformed economy,00:11:51
which had, well, just an absolutely00:11:53
magnificent economy, there00:11:55
was simply no need to do anything Russian companies,00:11:58
including digital ones I remind you that00:12:00
it was then that all sorts of Yandex00:12:02
and so on were created that were still decent companies,00:12:04
all this flourished in some senses in00:12:07
some aspects of regulation there was00:12:10
even less than in many other countries,00:12:13
the late Anton Nosik said that at one00:12:16
time there was less regulation than in the USA,00:12:19
it’s difficult now I just believe00:12:22
I quote, I quote Nosik, who was the00:12:25
creator of Runet, that one of the reasons00:12:30
that he returned to Russia from Israel00:12:32
was that it was simply possible to do00:12:34
everything, well, I repeat this again,00:12:40
even I Even I quote him, I am not an expert00:12:44
in this matter,00:12:45
on the other hand, Ukraine is in at that moment00:12:48
it was really very strongly and00:12:51
fragmented and depended on Russia,00:12:53
in fact, nothing had to be done00:12:56
at all, I mean, except to develop00:12:59
your own country Well, that’s how Well,00:13:01
listen, but00:13:02
it was when there was a joint farm Well,00:13:05
two brothers00:13:09
of cousins separated, whatever00:13:12
whatever you want, they have separated well,00:13:16
it doesn’t mean that you need a friend00:13:19
in a pot, after all, that’s the only thing you can00:13:22
do to maintain good00:13:25
relationships, the answer is be yourself,00:13:28
develop yourself, develop the economy, and then00:13:32
everything will be fine because00:13:34
everyone will want to be friends with you as good as you are, and00:13:37
so on so on no, it means Putin00:13:40
little by little began to take the entire00:13:43
Russian economy into his own hands, due to00:13:46
which Russia became a very poor country with a00:13:49
very rich government,00:13:51
and then how are you, the international importance of00:13:55
Russia began to fall further, it00:13:58
began to mean these very00:14:00
stories And now we are this We’ll do it with the00:14:02
help of hybrid different technologies, but00:14:05
then he found Medvedchuk on his own head and on the00:14:07
head of Ukraine, who will00:14:09
remind you that he was then the head of the administration of the00:14:11
then president.00:14:13
Medvedchuk told him that now00:14:16
he would elect Yanukovych and everything would be fine, and00:14:19
he knows this will happen. Yes, Yanukovych was00:14:23
not elected. Putin turned it over. and since then00:14:26
it’s been surprising that he continued to believe00:14:28
Medvedchuk00:14:32
absolutely00:14:37
continued to believe him,00:14:42
but something is incredible on the other hand, I’ll00:14:47
remind you that you can’t erase the words from a song,00:14:50
that00:14:51
even after the first Maidan, Putin00:14:55
completely managed to resolve the Ukrainian00:14:58
situation, as he considered to his advantage00:15:00
because that we won’t point fingers,00:15:04
but he managed to somehow reach an agreement with almost all leading Ukrainian00:15:06
politicians00:15:09
through the gas issue00:15:11
through these firtishems. Yes, through these people we wo00:15:14
n’t just point directly;00:15:17
moreover, even in 2014, after00:15:21
2014, we see these strange stories with00:15:25
Poroshenko who is privatizing there00:15:28
some kind of pipeline is00:15:30
difficult to believe, but in general, in short,00:15:33
Putin had quite good reasons00:15:35
to believe that he could00:15:40
confuse Ukrainian politicians in one way or another, but we note only00:15:43
after he lost his00:15:44
hybrid war on his own liquid00:15:47
and he Accordingly, in this sense, the00:15:51
real war is Of course, it was a00:15:55
consequence of all the00:15:59
successive operations he lost. Some of00:16:01
which were, well, obviously Evil, as00:16:04
I already said, such as the corruption of Ukrainian00:16:06
politicians. And some of which, the00:16:09
capabilities of which he went through were00:16:11
completely valid, completely00:16:13
normal and completely wonderful,00:16:15
which only benefited both sides.00:16:17
I have in view of it’s just stupid00:16:20
to develop the Russian economy and do it in such a way00:16:22
that the former metropolis Well, just00:16:25
like let’s say Great Britain, it’s00:16:28
great, everyone goes to00:16:31
Great Britain to study00:16:33
great,00:16:35
great science, wonderful00:16:38
parliamentary system, everyone is00:16:40
happy to do it, some even former00:16:43
representatives of the colony, for example, a00:16:46
tool, no one sees anything wrong with it,00:16:48
on the contrary, it’s the most the best Dream00:16:51
about which the former metropolis itself00:16:53
can dream Well, this is00:16:56
not the first time for me. By the way, I apologize, I00:16:59
’ll return for a moment to this00:17:01
article. This is not the first time I’ve come across information00:17:03
that Kovalchuk allegedly had Well, in00:17:06
essence, yes, this is essentially what00:17:09
he pushed Putin to this00:17:12
war and in this article the author also00:17:13
claims that Kovalchuk played a key00:17:15
role in making the corresponding decision00:17:17
and this decision00:17:19
was allegedly made at the end of00:17:22
February, beginning of March, as reported, I’m00:17:24
just spying now, which means And00:17:26
3 months before the war they already discussed how00:17:28
they would divide Ukraine between large00:17:30
corporations, who should be responsible for which region there,00:17:32
and so on and so00:17:34
forth, isn’t it too much? Because the00:17:36
Western press also wrote about00:17:37
Kovalchuk, supposedly he allegedly00:17:40
talked a lot about Kovalchuk, you and I00:17:43
also talked about this, isn’t00:17:45
Kovalchuk’s role being overestimated? there is, in00:17:47
fact, the author writes About the fact that he protected00:17:50
himself from everyone, here is one Kovalchuk, everyone00:17:52
else please 14 days in00:17:54
quarantine, and then with my permission someone00:17:56
can bring me to my office, I00:17:58
only listen to Kovalchuk and Kovalchuk influenced00:18:01
him to accept this decisions at the00:18:05
last stage I think that this is00:18:06
absolutely certain, it’s just that these are the people00:18:08
who physically saw it, that00:18:11
only Kovalchuk comes into Putin’s bunker and00:18:14
we know that we don’t confuse both Kovalchuk00:18:17
This is a brother to talk about it somehow, this00:18:21
is a00:18:23
biological weapon, that there are only00:18:26
one parents and two parents This all means00:18:30
gays, how in the West biological robots of some kind deliberately breed the wrong00:18:36
people00:18:40
He tells all this for quite a long time and00:18:42
it is clear that through his brother this00:18:44
intellectual infection, worse than any00:18:47
virus, flew into the bunker and I can even00:18:50
quote Mikhail Khodorkovsky,00:18:52
who said that to me, that thanks to the00:18:55
fact that the video paths in the bunker in isolation,00:18:58
those processes that should have00:18:59
happened at 90 years old, they began to00:19:01
happen much earlier, but Kovalchuk is00:19:05
still at a later00:19:07
stage, because I didn’t forget there were00:19:09
other authors of this whole thing, for example,00:19:12
2003-2004 It seems to me that one of the00:19:15
main ringleaders was Surkov,00:19:17
his idea was of course Just to00:19:20
use up the budgets on this Well, like in the fight against the00:19:24
orange threat, Vladimir Vladimirovich,00:19:26
surrounded by enemies But we have00:19:28
PR here, please give us this,00:19:33
we have mastered this00:19:35
we’ll separate everything and so on,00:19:38
the most important thing was that Putin was inspired that00:19:41
you are surrounded, you can help do this,00:19:44
and of course Surkov played a key role00:19:48
back in 13-14 when Surkov was00:19:52
removed, I don’t remember in verse how00:19:56
it is, but there if I’m not mistaken now I00:20:00
may confuse something, so I immediately ask00:20:01
our listeners. I apologize,00:20:04
it means there was a quarrel between Surkov and00:20:08
Volodya Volodin. Well, as always, over who00:20:12
will spiritually feed And within the framework of this00:20:16
quarrel, it means that everyone who was close to00:20:19
Surkov00:20:21
began to be persecuted somehow in particular00:20:24
This means that a case has been formed against a00:20:26
criminal case against Ponomarev00:20:29
for some kind of money that was00:20:31
paid to him in Skolkovo00:20:34
Surkov As a result,00:20:36
the position was decided for some time and00:20:39
ran away to Kadyrov and since He was no longer00:20:42
in charge of the actual internal00:20:44
policy, at that moment it was00:20:46
invented, as I understand it Novorossia and00:20:49
then like this She returned through the Caucasus00:20:52
before 14, so if I’m not00:20:56
confusing anything, I emphasize that I might00:20:58
confuse something there, this is the story from00:21:00
Novorossiya, it actually,00:21:03
paradoxically, appeared even before the second00:21:05
Maidan, but it existed very00:21:07
latently and then as we saw Surkov00:21:10
there completely in yours during this whole00:21:13
process, even some not even some,00:21:16
including various financial affairs,00:21:18
roofs were interrupted, and so on and so00:21:20
forth, and it all ended, all this00:21:24
continued until the moment when00:21:25
Surkov fired after he00:21:28
inadvertently promised Putin that now00:21:30
Zelensky would come and sign everything00:21:32
Zelensky came and said Bring me on,00:21:35
well, the Russian ship probably didn’t go00:21:37
that direction00:21:40
after that it00:21:45
was very much in I was probably just00:21:49
distracted right now You’re talking about Paris, yeah00:21:50
when, two months later,00:21:53
Surkov was removed and the author, by the way,00:21:55
recalls This story is very00:21:56
interesting by the way that you told him about00:21:58
it now because then Surkov00:22:00
almost threw his fists at00:22:02
Ermak, then Zelensky proposed00:22:04
eliminating Medvedchuk, which means00:22:06
Ermak would be involved in all these matters and that00:22:09
means what the Ukrainian00:22:11
side proposed and Putin and his team thought that00:22:13
yes. Now we will move and finally00:22:16
go back, nothing worked out very00:22:19
beautifully, the author writes about the fact that it was00:22:20
a slap in the face to Putin and this is essentially Well, it became00:22:22
one of the key events when Putin00:22:24
accepted the decision Well, it has already pushed Putin00:22:27
to this decision and the Key event00:22:28
Yulia is the closure of these uh Medvedchuk TV channels00:22:32
Well and so on with all the00:22:36
events in the sense that as we see00:22:39
Putin has been preparing for this war quite00:22:41
clearly over a significant number of years00:22:45
and another thing Apparently, already in the00:22:49
fourteenth year, he decided something00:22:51
like in the fourteenth year the army was not00:22:53
ready. Well, let's get ready;00:22:56
another thing is that he is, of course, always,00:23:06
and another important point and we'll move00:23:08
on, I'll quote this amazing war00:23:11
when almost the entire Elite is against I'm00:23:14
talking to bosses in Russia there is not a00:23:16
single person from the highest echelons of00:23:18
power. Who would be in favor but does not understand that it is00:23:21
necessary to work in a team, says a former00:23:23
Kremlin official, referring to private00:23:25
conversations with representatives of the Russian00:23:27
government. This looks like an attempt to00:23:30
whitewash everyone and dump responsibility00:23:32
only on this Putin Shoigu which,00:23:35
according to the author, jumped for joy when he00:23:37
learned that Russia was preparing a war00:23:39
and so on, it’s not collective00:23:42
responsibility, but personal responsibility,00:23:43
please.00:23:44
This is absolutely the Holy Truth. We see00:23:47
that people like the Mishustins Sobyanin,00:23:50
they don’t even bother very much,00:23:53
even despite this the crazy atmosphere00:23:56
that reigns in Russia,00:23:57
they don’t even really bother00:24:00
supporting the war one00:24:05
and a half times Mishustin Even not even00:24:08
once at all,00:24:10
accordingly, but it’s very indicative00:24:14
of course it’s not just Putin because it00:24:17
can be considered support for the war, it00:24:21
exists in such an expanded way of00:24:23
Putin’s close circle00:24:26
But besides Kovalchuk Patrushev00:24:29
Bortnikova I also think that, of course,00:24:31
dozens of people go there, but nevertheless, the00:24:37
majority are really not Russian businesses,00:24:39
although there are, of course, the most00:24:41
Amazing people,00:24:43
the most amazing people,00:24:45
I heard with my own ears the most amazing transformations, and people00:24:49
on Rublyovka who were previously00:24:51
quite normal have now seen business.00:24:53
What does that mean? - it went away and they started00:24:57
telling some absolutely00:25:00
incredible things.00:25:03
Do you know why our tanks in our00:25:06
sense are Russian, but because00:25:10
they had secret protection, but00:25:12
some Major sold the keys to this protection00:25:16
to the CIA two years ago,00:25:18
I literally yes or00:25:24
there things now, what else have I00:25:28
heard so absolutely amazingly Well,00:25:31
perhaps about what it means,00:25:35
Russian oil won’t hurt anyone Because because it turns00:25:38
out that in Sarov there are00:25:42
Elders who discovered00:25:46
thermonuclear energy and soon00:25:50
no one will need hydrocarbons But00:25:53
Russia will be in line behind00:25:55
thermonuclear energy,00:25:56
you understand something like this, it’s beyond good and evil, but00:26:01
still I absolutely agree with the author,00:26:05
not only with the author of the article, let’s say00:26:08
raw material Yashin, who says don’t fall into it,00:26:11
please, but here you understand again, this is00:26:13
very important, our time is very popular with00:26:17
these all polls of the majority are00:26:19
like this, but only 20 percent are00:26:21
officially against the war during the polls.00:26:24
Listen, if you are in France in the 18th century,00:26:27
ask who supported Voltaire,00:26:31
you will find out that it was much less than 2000:26:34
percent, nevertheless, in fact, from00:26:38
this Putin is still a month and he has an instinct00:26:41
understands that with the exception of a00:26:44
strong power component, and the power00:26:47
component is undoubtedly at least a00:26:50
significant part of the security forces, at00:26:52
least some of them support the war simply00:26:55
because endless prospects open up before it,00:26:56
including for the00:26:58
redistribution of Russian business,00:27:00
but we even see that these security forces are00:27:04
among many there there are a lot of00:27:06
factions. Yes, they are all squabbling among themselves00:27:08
from the Ministry of Defense with Prigozhin, that is,00:27:13
unlike, say, in 14, when the00:27:16
annexation of Crimea really00:27:18
enjoyed support,00:27:21
here in fact there is no support.00:27:24
Ilya Yashin gives an excellent example,00:27:26
but because in 14 it was00:27:30
calm they allowed demonstrations against the00:27:34
annexation of Crimea and tens of thousands of people00:27:37
went to these demonstrations.00:27:38
No one was detained at all. And in fact,00:27:41
it happened exactly because Putin00:27:43
understood that those people who walk the00:27:45
streets are in the minority,00:27:48
and now he gives crazy forty for a like00:27:54
for a VKontakte post00:27:57
exactly because that he understands, in00:28:00
fact, there is no depth of support in00:28:02
this sense, of course, I think it00:28:04
ended abruptly because usually this kind of00:28:07
event,00:28:08
well, let’s say, imagine there, I don’t know, the00:28:11
Mongols attacked China, that’s what you00:28:13
think if you ask the Mongols the level of00:28:15
support for this event00:28:18
in history This is how it is customary when we start a00:28:22
war, the whole nation runs out into the street00:28:25
shouting hurray hurray for me, let’s remember what00:28:28
happened in Europe during the First00:28:30
World War when All the00:28:32
peoples who until recently were00:28:35
completely normal were actually running through00:28:37
the streets00:28:38
or vice versa,00:28:43
listen to Wagner, what are the problems?00:28:48
recently they were an00:28:49
elite squad who were in line to00:28:53
sign up And now they are on porn00:28:56
sites and at the metro there is no one calling them00:29:02
a delay about what00:29:05
Listen, but the final one is all these people are00:29:11
still with Putin They are still00:29:13
surrounding Putin Kovalchuk with Putin00:29:15
who convinced Shoigu who00:29:17
was invited with Putin still has00:29:18
n’t even figured out the00:29:20
state of the troops from Thank God that it00:29:22
all turned out that way, Medvedchuk was changed. So I00:29:24
think that he opened some kind of business there again,00:29:26
got all these people who00:29:28
pushed him to do something, they still him00:29:31
surrounded by no one was held responsible,00:29:34
that is, in fact, he was deceived and once again00:29:37
It’s good that everything turned out this way in the00:29:39
sense that there was corruption stolen,00:29:42
nothing takes off, doesn’t fly, doesn’t shoot,00:29:44
well, nothing, something still, of course,00:29:47
shoots, but you understand, yes I am now00:29:49
I say globally00:29:50
if they were not corrupt and00:29:53
reported normal information to their boss,00:29:56
then I don’t really know what00:29:58
he had at the same time, in short, if00:30:01
the system was different, then he wouldn’t be there,00:30:03
so it’s such a double-edged sword,00:30:11
on the other hand he wouldn’t be there at all00:30:12
because they said00:30:18
in the Washington Post00:30:21
article Sorry for God's sake Yes about00:30:24
Kovalchuk and Shoigu I believe that00:30:28
what you said is another very important00:30:30
developed sign because00:30:33
Putin’s bench is so small that00:30:35
he simply has no one to replace these people with.00:30:38
And he understands that if he understands and00:30:43
he has the Will, the power there has an iron sense00:30:46
that if he exchanges these people for00:30:49
someone else who is not dirty00:30:53
to his very hands,00:30:54
then this person will immediately00:30:57
bite off his head and bring it to the West and the00:31:00
West will be happy to say But00:31:02
now00:31:04
Putin is simply a rare00:31:07
case, unlike other cases when00:31:10
you just have a big bench00:31:17
with your collective unconscious00:31:23
post article GUR m about the Main00:31:26
Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine00:31:27
was preparing to shell Moscow on the anniversary of the00:31:30
invasion, but Kiev was dissuaded by the United00:31:34
States of America there they were afraid that Putin00:31:37
would be ready to use tactical00:31:39
nuclear weapons,00:31:41
what do you think? Well, I think that Putin would, of course,00:31:44
use tactical nuclear weapons,00:31:47
but in any case, after reading this00:31:50
article, I understood why the Immortal00:31:53
Regiment and parades in other00:31:54
places were canceled on May 9. But because it is absolutely obvious00:31:57
that Putin is waiting for a wild embarrassment, or rather, he’s00:32:01
afraid, and that’s how this same00:32:05
drone that flew over00:32:08
Moscow here, or didn’t fly, in any case,00:32:10
was posted online How it flew, they said that00:32:13
it was Ukrainian I think that00:32:16
it just added to Putin’s ever-present Paranoia, and00:32:18
of course, if you think about it, why it was00:32:20
a drone flying, but probably so that00:32:23
Putin wouldn’t just come out onto the podium00:32:26
of the Mausoleum. Well, or let his double in. And00:32:30
by the way, you know, here we have00:32:33
I recommend a very good broadcast of00:32:37
doubles. It’s a00:32:39
strange story, I appreciate all these;00:32:44
Putin has doubles,00:32:49
like all the functions00:32:52
of me today just an opinion00:32:56
after this broadcast, two people called00:32:58
whose opinion we really respect00:33:03
physically Yes, that’s how we know Yul So00:33:06
you’re learning.00:33:08
So my opinion has changed a little again00:33:10
and I can’t say that00:33:13
I had the conviction that there are doubles.00:33:15
First of all, I don’t have the conviction that there with00:33:17
Putin the roof has gone far and Judging by00:33:19
his behavior, even the person00:33:22
who goes on trips knows that00:33:24
everything is not in order there from the roof, even00:33:27
if it is real,00:33:28
so I just began to think that00:33:31
look, after all, there will now be a00:33:35
very good way out for Putin Iso00:33:37
all these stories00:33:41
travel to some countries night trips through00:33:44
Mariupol on the Crimean bridge begins00:33:46
to discuss there is a double no a double it’s00:33:48
Putin himself who is afraid to meet people00:33:51
look what a great story it would be00:33:53
if now on May 9 a double came out00:33:58
to meet the parade here there would be a Ukrainian terrorist attack00:34:05
with a fin something would have happened,00:34:08
they would have announced that Comrade Putin was seriously00:34:11
wounded, then he would have been miraculously00:34:13
healed or even resurrected, but00:34:16
this one was resurrected that night Yes, but he was miraculously healed00:34:19
And after that, let him already have the00:34:21
opportunity not to get out of the bunker,00:34:24
so I’m just completely serious when I say00:34:27
that I’m thinking through this topic to the end, I00:34:30
think that the first is a double And the second is00:34:33
that from this story Putin now00:34:36
somehow needs to cut out from the point of view of PR the00:34:38
most unpleasant option00:34:41
that he can choose from the point of view of00:34:43
PR And this is an attempt on the life of the Great00:34:48
Comrade Putin from the outside bad00:34:50
Ukrainians And after that he will be able00:34:54
to complain that this is what bad00:34:56
people do, don’t get out of the bunker anymore00:34:58
and close the topic or tell him00:35:00
to report How good it was that it was a double,00:35:03
but it’s unlikely, most likely just after the00:35:07
legal before not getting out of the bunker I00:35:10
think that this is the idea that00:35:12
came to me, once it came to my mind, I'm00:35:14
afraid that it came to the Kremlin as a00:35:16
political strategist,00:35:17
I'll tell you, I'm finally convinced00:35:20
that he exists, you and I00:35:22
discussed this endlessly for a very long time, we00:35:24
analyzed detailed behavior and everything is00:35:26
incredibly interesting conversation by the way00:35:29
Who is interested Please watch00:35:31
our previous broadcasts friends00:35:32
when Why was I convinced when when00:35:35
Peskov came out and said Well,00:35:39
look at this energetic person, what00:35:41
Charisma he has, what health he has,00:35:42
everyone would envy him, they say that he’s00:35:44
sitting in a bunker, he’s not sitting, he’s not sitting in which00:35:46
bunker the bunker does not exist they say00:35:48
that she has a double no doubles00:35:49
he does not have Here he is our president and so00:35:52
on and I realized after these words that no there are00:35:54
such if there is no Peskov then yes00:35:58
Well, after all, for me here are some words00:36:02
that I said people whom I00:36:04
will not name they00:36:05
[music]00:36:11
we know that there is Okay, if you know,00:36:15
probably yes. So, about what we00:36:19
discussed, we discussed, it means that the United States00:36:21
dissuaded the GUR from attacks on Moscow00:36:24
Feigin, so you00:36:26
remembered Mark Zakharovich I had with you yesterday there00:36:29
was a conversation with him and he says00:36:31
that the United States made concessions to Russia. Sorry,00:36:34
we agreed in this way, that is,00:36:37
they gave guarantees to Russia that Ukraine00:36:40
would not attack Moscow or other00:36:44
cities, I don’t know, they were talking about Moscow and00:36:46
it means that00:36:48
such guarantees were supposedly given,00:36:52
what do you think based on this thought.00:36:54
Therefore, in fact,00:36:57
what can I say? Look, in00:37:00
February, a lot of drones flew,00:37:02
including those that flew in Engels, and00:37:06
it became clear that Ukraine has drones00:37:08
that fly far away, and then00:37:11
the Ukrainians clearly did not ask for permission,00:37:13
including this also applies to Crimean00:37:15
bridge But it wasn’t a drone, that’s00:37:17
clear, I didn’t reproach you for00:37:20
saying that the Crimean bridge was covered with00:37:23
a drone, I said somewhere00:37:26
about the fact that the Chinese sent00:37:29
state expeditions00:37:31
to open new lands and discovered00:37:34
America and then closed it and back00:37:36
because these expeditions didn’t get anything more than the giraffe beast,00:37:41
you say giraffes were brought from America00:37:44
Giraffe and from Africa there was a big story00:37:48
because they introduced00:37:50
[applause]00:37:54
I ask This is a qilin beast, a00:37:56
target beast, you know, not only is it00:37:58
mythological, but the appearance of a qilin at the00:38:00
imperial court meant00:38:02
extraordinary prosperity and it was clear00:38:04
that the emperor was very wise,00:38:06
so when they brought the giraffes and said00:38:09
that this was healing. It was a big story.00:38:11
I’m digressing. I didn’t say that00:38:15
the drone was on the Crimean bridge. Lord, I00:38:18
said that these things were00:38:21
done out loud, or there, or whoever doesn’t00:38:25
ask, I’m00:38:27
guided by what to ask. forgiveness is00:38:30
much easier than asking for permission00:38:32
Well, we really see that these00:38:35
drones have stopped flying, but we’ll00:38:37
see, because again, asking for00:38:40
forgiveness is easier than asking for permission00:38:42
Oh, we didn’t know and we didn’t think that it00:38:45
was only for the whole of February00:38:47
In the end,00:38:50
guided by that the same thing, they almost hijacked the plane,00:38:52
but they didn’t,00:38:54
but by the way, I wanted to00:38:57
sum up what you think00:39:00
about the story with Roman,00:39:04
but the Shirvinsky novel, as far as I know, and I00:39:07
repeat once again, since I knew, we00:39:10
mean this is a person whose track00:39:15
record includes Helium Motorola and the prices of which00:39:19
he stole00:39:21
yes And this is the Operation with the Wagnerites00:39:24
which, as you know, failed and Well, that00:39:29
is, due to circumstances beyond the control of Chervinsky and the00:39:31
Burmese, and it seems00:39:35
quite strange to me when they say that00:39:37
the operation to fly the plane was not00:39:39
agreed upon, I somehow found it difficult I00:39:43
imagine that it was not00:39:45
agreed upon at all, although I understand very well00:39:47
that due to the fact that the Ukrainian00:39:50
special services are like an independent00:39:53
duchy,00:39:55
as it were, well, they are like such00:39:58
independent feudal principalities, they00:40:00
really very often do not obey00:40:02
their king, they do what is necessary00:40:06
for advancement their interests00:40:08
and the interests of the state, as they understand00:40:11
and even sometimes are at enmity with the king,00:40:15
including, as I understand, the00:40:19
relationship between Vasily Burba,00:40:23
whose right hand was at one time00:40:25
Mr. Chervensky, and President00:40:28
Zelensky They were very difficult.00:40:31
First of all, I won’t cut this out if00:40:33
possible, secondly, I won’t retell00:40:35
some things, but those things that I00:40:37
heard, to be honest,00:40:39
which side to choose, a lot of things00:40:43
happened there, let’s say,00:40:49
the state for the sake of something.00:40:51
Well, somehow intelligence should be outwardly00:40:54
[applause] and00:40:56
so00:40:58
I even looked carefully even00:41:01
before Chervensky was accepted,00:41:05
and there this unfortunate airfield was bombed so much,00:41:08
and the first time was on March 300:41:11
and there on June 23, I just pay attention.00:41:15
I mean this. Yes, I didn’t publish it00:41:19
because I just said it on the air with my00:41:22
access code, but there, on June 23, the00:41:26
Ukrainian Armed Forces, the00:41:29
Ukrainian Air Force,00:41:30
published a tweet on which one could see00:41:35
planes taking off from this airfield, there is a00:41:38
question of geolocation, as Christ told me,00:41:40
threatening us with whom we discussed this a little for00:41:43
a couple of minutes and I will remind you that00:41:47
Christ participated in this whole story00:41:48
having abandoned it, he spoke about it quite publicly,00:41:50
he participated as an00:41:51
observer.00:41:53
He said that yes there was such an attempt00:41:56
to recruit Russian pilots, and that for00:42:00
example, one of the pilots who00:42:04
talked to this was the one who00:42:06
bombed Mariupol,00:42:09
that very early it became clear that the attempt00:42:14
failed because from the other side FSB00:42:16
officers are playing Well, that is, some00:42:18
part of these FSB officers were discovered for through the00:42:21
Black Sheep you want to grow block that00:42:23
finally wandered, everything became clear00:42:26
much before July when one00:42:30
of these pilots shot through the man00:42:33
whom he asked to take out, he said instead of00:42:35
his wife, please see your mistress,00:42:37
give her documents They began to break through, it00:42:40
turned out that this was not an FSB mistress,00:42:44
but it seemed clear to everyone that00:42:47
in these conditions it was possible to assert that it was00:42:50
Chervinsky’s action that led to the00:42:53
airfield being bombed. I think this is00:42:57
some kind of settling of political scores, and it00:42:59
seems to me that this is But in war conditions More00:43:03
I repeat once again Yes, I wouldn’t want to00:43:05
embed all this here, but this is just one of the reasons00:43:09
Yes, for which, as they very often say,00:43:12
especially the extreme right and extreme00:43:14
left in America like to say this, but00:43:16
look at Ukraine in Ukraine and it00:43:18
means a corrupt state They are00:43:21
all there they use power for00:43:22
themselves personally But listen, well, Cyrus Carlson00:43:26
was fired, but can you imagine, this is00:43:27
just a case to run Look, Yes, they are00:43:31
imprisoning a reconnaissance officer who did not hijack00:43:33
the plane only because he is the right hand,00:43:36
but it’s not good.00:43:39
In conclusion, I would like to ask you00:43:42
what will happen on May 9, according to the logic essence of the broadcast00:43:45
But how it should have been This is exactly the00:43:47
topic we should have00:43:49
naturally, I really00:43:52
would just like to00:43:53
add that it is the independence00:43:58
of the Ukrainians that00:44:02
makes them, on the one hand,00:44:05
political, on the other hand, it00:44:07
makes them such adventurous people00:44:09
because that I’m not sure that it was00:44:11
such a good idea to hijack planes00:44:14
Apparently, as we see, everything00:44:16
really did00:44:17
n’t work out very well for everyone, to put it mildly, it didn’t00:44:23
work out very well, they00:44:26
will never have anything good,00:44:28
they will always think,00:44:35
and this is a double-edged sword as It00:44:37
was said in the Game of Thrones about00:44:39
witchcraft00:44:40
that this is witchcraft. This is a Sword without a Sword without a00:44:45
handle, you take it, you are cut off on00:44:50
one side, this is very good because a00:44:52
lot of absolutely00:44:53
fantastic operations are performed that, with a00:44:56
large amount of coordination,00:44:59
would never have been performed, and on the other hand00:45:02
this it ends with00:45:04
these special services of the duchy00:45:07
being engaged in undeniably political00:45:09
activities,00:45:11
piloting some kind of operations against officials against them.00:45:15
Then it00:45:17
begins, let’s say00:45:19
very beautifully, the attitude of these00:45:22
officials to these dukes And then00:45:25
what we observe is observed,00:45:28
please tell us the conclusion in two00:45:31
words: will be on May 9 what will Putin say about00:45:34
or perhaps what will his double say about?00:45:35
Will there be aviation perhaps00:45:38
empty Red Square there will be no00:45:41
tanks anything like that perhaps Putin00:45:43
will be afraid and will not come out or what will happen what do00:45:46
you think the00:45:48
picture will be a beautiful picture00:45:50
I’ll draw another thing that Well listen once00:45:53
a year to00:45:54
cardboard reinforcements Everything will be as it is, it just wo00:45:57
n’t be as far as I understand the00:45:59
Immortal Regiment Well, I think that00:46:03
this is primarily due to the fact that00:46:06
otherwise the calculation will begin to count00:46:09
losses because it’s somehow strange, you know,00:46:10
but here’s the Immortal Regiment A here00:46:14
we lost so much to the Second World War But00:46:17
even somehow there’s something fresh here too,00:46:22
we’ll have00:46:24
fresh graves these are patriotic00:46:32
Yulia Thank you very much for the most interesting00:46:34
conversation Thank you very much00:46:36
Please take care and I’m waiting for you on Tuesday as00:46:38
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Украина, вероятно, скоро начнет масштабное контрнаступление на фронте. Юлия Латынина рассказала, какой победы Запад ждет от Украины, и когда Путин начал готовить РФ к войне с Украиной и давал ли Вашингтон гарантии безопасности Москве, что Киев не будет атаковать РФ. Об этом и другом - в интервью Юрия Бибика. Фабрика новин https://www.youtube.com/@UCMp5Buw-6LpbbV9r9Sl_5yg 00:00 Интервью Юрия Бибика с Юлией Латыниной 00:27 Что для Запада станет решающей победой в Украине? 07:12 Как Путин возненавидел Украину и начал войну? 29:01 Почему приспешники Путина не несут ответственность за провал РФ? 31:15 Путин мог бы ударить ядерным оружием, если бы ВСУ атаковали Москву 24 февраля? 36:10 США давали какие-то гарантии РФ, что Киев не атакует Москву? 45:21 Что будет у РФ на 9 мая? Перевод на счет организации: LATYNINAORG MTÜ IBAN EE421010220274614225 SWIFT EEUHEE2X Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latyninatv Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/latynina Ko-fi https://ko-fi.com/latynina1 Bitcoin: bc1qltgykx93plrpp32ygktl4srzz4z5sa467ppafq bitcoincash: qq2uhptcx7qqxvtpgqs2spca6urgwuckxsc79vd39j Algo: LXHCP5VLSULJTYNK3QXBXYA3YQ5RT7G3UKGKY4IDFAYGIKTDIO3SONPNNM Соцсети: Twitter: https://twitter.com/YLatynina Telegram: https://t.me/Ylatynina Instagram: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@yulialatynina Facebook канала: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Личный фейсбук: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Наш сайт http://www.latynina.tv/ Статьи в Новой Газете (Европа): https://novayagazeta.eu/authors/13 ЮЛИЯ ЛАТЫНИНА ПРИЗНАНА МИНЮСТОМ РОССИИ ИНОСТРАННЫМ АГЕНТОМ Данным каналом занимаются: содержание Юлия Латынина, техническая поддержка Дарья Воронцова. Автор фото на канале - Дарья Воронцова. канал Даши https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx6c8wzHXm-CkW25V7dLTig
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