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my hut is on the edge I don’t know anything there, what00:00:02
they want, let me not betray the Ukrainian00:00:05
people because I am the Ukrainian00:00:06
people, I My children are my fellow countrymen and so on,00:00:09
we are the Ukrainian people That’s what you00:00:12
will come here and here you will arrange00:00:14
your own rules for me And he says because this is00:00:16
my Ukraine, I tell Dodon to sleep, where is00:00:18
my Ukraine? Why don’t I have my00:00:21
own Ukraine? Why do you have it from sleep? I do00:00:23
n’t have Dodon, so I don’t even00:00:26
want to hear these conversations that there is00:00:28
Nazism in Ukraine. No, he is. and it needs to00:00:30
be destroyed the long-standing00:00:34
dream of Ukrainians to get their own00:00:36
state Yes, we didn’t have such a thing, we00:00:39
didn’t even have some of us were taken aback In the00:00:42
ninety-first year when we got an00:00:44
independent state Why do00:00:53
we need it Hello dear friends,00:00:56
today I will talk with a very00:01:00
interesting person, this is the Orthodox00:01:02
priest Trey Gennady Shkil00:01:04
Hello, dear father00:01:06
Hello, I call you dear00:01:08
because you yourself are very nice to me. It’s very nice as a00:01:12
person, as an Orthodox00:01:14
missionary, and what you do on00:01:17
the Internet, in my opinion, is very00:01:19
expensive now, you don’t often find this. What does a00:01:23
wife mean? Yes, she is afraid of her husband, children00:01:26
are saved by obedience to parents, the wife is00:01:28
obedient to her husband and the husband is obedient to00:01:32
God, the sin for murder in war lies with the00:01:34
soldier, he orders it, and he goes00:01:37
forward, and at the same time he has to kill,00:01:39
if he dies, he confessed, received00:01:41
communion, repented, then he washed away his00:01:45
sins with blood missionary work In my opinion, it should00:01:47
be00:01:49
like this I’m glad today our meeting in00:01:52
person, you can say acquaintance,00:01:55
we see each other and are far away from each other00:01:59
and I would just like00:02:02
to talk with you to my audience to introduce00:02:04
you to your audience too to00:02:08
get acquainted So we can exchange some00:02:10
opinions about how we live00:02:13
now, what about us in our Mother Church00:02:15
What is happening in our Mother Russia00:02:18
and in our Mother Church in Ukraine too00:02:20
I spent quite a lot of time in Ukraine00:02:22
in my teenage period00:02:26
and Iche Lyub00:02:28
e Of course my heart is also00:02:31
filled with pain from what is happening there now00:02:33
Tell me, but here you go00:02:37
Where are you serving now? Please tell me for yourself. I am00:02:40
serving now in Stavropol. We are here00:02:43
after the evacuation was announced.00:02:45
Well, I must say that I served in a church00:02:49
that is00:02:50
now in a town that is now being shelled00:02:52
very actively from the00:02:54
right bank by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and the evacuation of the authorities has been00:02:58
announced. They00:03:01
really persuaded me to leave,00:03:03
they said that I would still be very useful for the00:03:05
Kherson region, that’s why because my00:03:09
mother and I didn’t really want to leave.00:03:10
Well, so to speak, they insisted on this, we00:03:12
left. And00:03:15
Vladyka00:03:19
Kirill00:03:21
of Stavropol greeted us very warmly and gave us the00:03:23
opportunity to live here, even helped00:03:24
let’s say this with the purchase of winter00:03:28
things because we arrived, they00:03:30
told us a couple of weeks, or at most a couple of00:03:32
months, and well, we were very well00:03:36
received here and I’m now, as it were, on a00:03:38
business trip. That is, I’m not a cleric, but I’m00:03:42
kind of on a forced00:03:44
business trip. I remain a cry of the00:03:46
Ukrainian Orthodox Church and have00:03:48
plans as soon as there is an00:03:51
opportunity to return there back to00:03:54
Khersons, well, you know, in general, in my00:03:57
opinion, this is very commendable00:04:00
because I know what we have00:04:04
here. Well, there are already a lot of00:04:06
priests who came from Ukraine.00:04:09
of their own free will a long time ago, even00:04:11
when the Maidan began there and a00:04:15
serious danger arose there and they00:04:18
settled here as if for permanent residence. But what do00:04:21
you come from? Yes, from Ukraine Yes, I00:04:24
come from the Kherson region, I was born there and00:04:26
grew up there. Well, partly there, a little bit00:04:29
lived in Kiev when I was a student there, well,00:04:31
basically all of my most of my the00:04:34
vast majority of my00:04:35
adult life passed in the00:04:36
Kherson region there I was born there00:04:40
all my children were born there My grandfathers and00:04:42
great-grandfathers That is, those whom I remember and00:04:44
know, yes, that is, it’s like for me these are my00:04:47
native places and for me it was very important00:04:53
that you know when00:04:56
reproaches come there is a betrayal of the motherland for me the00:04:59
Motherland is the Kherson region and for me00:05:02
it is important that this is the region that00:05:05
has the right to prosperity it00:05:07
flourished, flourished in its time and00:05:10
flourished until almost before00:05:12
the Maidan, but after the Maidan everything changed.00:05:14
So I want those times of00:05:18
prosperity to return for my fellow countrymen. This is my00:05:20
main00:05:22
task in00:05:23
relation to my small Motherland. That’s because00:05:27
I, as a priest, have00:05:29
a lot more main tasks. Yes, but it’s precisely in00:05:31
relation to the small Motherland that I want00:05:33
such an improvement in life is a return. Although I’m not00:05:36
saying there, at least return to what it00:05:39
was before because they lived well.00:05:41
Especially in the last years before the00:05:44
Maidan under Yanukovych, it was00:05:46
normal to live there. I remember, you know, I was in00:05:50
my Student Youth in Kherson in the00:05:53
Kherson00:05:54
region We were once there at a wedding in the00:05:57
city of Uryupinsk Tsyuryupinsk Tsyuryupinsk00:06:00
Excuse me Yes, now oleshki is called00:06:02
back, the Maidan authorities have returned the00:06:05
old name of oleshka and now00:06:06
it is very actively shelling there, just like00:06:09
my town, they are located next to00:06:12
Kherson and that’s why they fly from there00:06:13
every day, I remember what kind of nature there is00:06:16
in the Delta in the Dnieper Delta, beautiful and00:06:19
beautiful and there it’s just like this along the banks00:06:23
of the Jungle along these channels of the Dnieper, how00:06:26
we rode a motor boat there and the00:06:29
wedding itself lasted a whole00:06:32
week there was enough of everything and drinks and00:06:35
snacks and people’s health for a whole00:06:38
week such a tradition Yes, the lands00:06:41
were rich, I just gave an example more00:06:44
than once that00:06:46
Let’s say even in the times after the00:06:51
Soviet Union, the times00:06:56
of Independence, the Kherson region was00:06:58
rich and it was prestigious. That’s when I00:07:02
lived in my village. Yes, it was00:07:04
prestigious to stay in the village for young people not00:07:06
to go to the city, but to stay00:07:08
because by getting married, they could00:07:10
earn money for a house, a car within one or two seasons,00:07:12
and so on, that’s all00:07:16
that was needed, so there was00:07:20
prosperity after the Maidan, when the authorities00:07:26
banned some, they stood00:07:30
on the wholesale markets, they were banned, then00:07:32
Crimea was also banned they closed that00:07:34
is, all the products Well, not all of them, but a lot of the00:07:37
products either had to be00:07:40
handed over for next to nothing or the plantings were completely thrown away, that’s why00:07:42
Well, this is not00:07:45
the main reason, let’s put it this way Why I was00:07:48
very negatively opposed to the Maidan00:07:51
because I understood and saw that What00:07:53
would happen next Here what is happening00:07:55
now is00:07:56
me who00:08:02
told my grandmothers my parishioners that there will be a war. I don’t know with whom00:08:05
but there will be a war. So I am sure that if it00:08:08
weren’t for ours there would be military00:08:12
action with Poland With Romania with that00:08:15
same Hungary but with it was someone because,00:08:17
well,00:08:18
according to history, well, let’s put it00:08:22
this way. Well, in general, Nazi theories,00:08:25
Nazi ideas, they cannot live peacefully.00:08:29
That is, these are not creators, they are00:08:31
Destroyers, so they need to00:08:34
somehow cover up their destruction with00:08:36
something And something external enemies So they00:08:38
are bothering us, we would live richly if it were00:08:41
n’t for them Yes. And it’s better to start military00:08:44
action so that later we can win all the time.00:08:46
Yes Well, here are my00:08:51
relatives, I have several00:08:53
several people there, people of my close00:08:55
relatives in Ukraine, they have me too This00:08:59
year they told me such things,00:09:03
Slav, believe me, we will fight. I say00:09:06
who we are. Well, like Ukraine, Russia, I am a [ __ ]. Yes, I00:09:09
can’t00:09:10
even imagine it, but00:09:12
they say We see everything here. We see00:09:14
how it is now developing from where everything00:09:17
comes from. our legs are growing and we see that we are being00:09:20
prepared for war. So, of00:09:28
course,00:09:31
I had impressions of Ukraine from00:09:33
my teenage years when I00:09:36
spent the whole summer there for several years00:09:39
in a row in the Dnepropetrovsk00:09:42
region. Here is the00:09:44
beautiful city of Yellow Waters, so00:09:48
unique. Oh, you know, it was like a copy of00:09:51
One of our small towns here00:09:54
in the Urals there is such a village named after Malyshev,00:09:57
they belonged to the same ministry of00:09:59
metal in Soviet times, even the00:10:02
standard buildings there are built the same way in the00:10:05
same order on the street which00:10:07
looks almost a mirror00:10:08
image of one another there in the yellow00:10:12
waters I don’t know now there is or no,00:10:14
probably not, already such a two-story00:10:17
beautiful00:10:18
dining room with a hall below with a dining room on the00:10:21
second floor, such a two-way00:10:23
staircase rises and here at the very00:10:27
top when the staircase ends there hangs a00:10:30
huge reproduction of Shishkin’s painting, a00:10:33
lonely pine tree, to this00:10:36
extent. A typical project is here in the00:10:38
Urals in this hundred and in the yellow waters it was00:10:41
like this in Soviet times.00:10:44
If they didn’t make Shishkin declared a00:10:47
Ukrainian artist, then this00:10:49
picture was most likely shot there. Yes, I00:10:52
think so too, yes, Ukraine, you know, I00:10:56
loved and love Ukraine when again00:10:58
They tell me that there you are against Ukraine. I00:11:00
say No, I00:11:02
loved Ukraine and love the Ukraine00:11:07
that I know, which for me is00:11:10
now the current one. This is not the same at all, and the00:11:14
Ukrainians who say so to themselves00:11:19
Well, they imagine that they are00:11:22
real Ukrainians, these are not Ukrainians for00:11:24
me, Ukraine is Ukraine osta povysh00:11:26
Ukrainians are osta povysh Ukraine This is00:11:29
the real thing This is such a good-natured00:11:33
hospitable person because he knows that if00:11:34
he has guests, his wife will pour him00:11:38
a little at the table at Well at the table Yes,00:11:42
here he is with cunning who is a little bit00:11:45
obligatory, yes, that is, but but he was always a00:11:49
good-natured person, he was always00:11:51
complacent, he always treated people with00:11:56
love, these are real00:11:58
Ukrainians and they are still in00:12:01
Ukraine now they are, I also believe that00:12:04
they are, I also believe they are silent they are silent,00:12:06
you understand what the whole problem is in general in00:12:08
our entire world Yes, a bunch of some00:12:11
let’s say,00:12:14
well, stubborn people have gathered, that is, they are not00:12:16
necessarily Ukrainians, they are stubborn, they have no00:12:18
nationality, they are in any00:12:20
country. Yes, they gathered on some square00:12:22
on the Maidan on Bolotnaya square I don’t know,00:12:25
somewhere in Munich where Uno is and00:12:29
they’re screaming and screaming and00:12:31
creating the impression that there are a00:12:33
lot of them, that they’ve just filled the whole00:12:37
space, that’s the same thing, but the bulk00:12:41
and especially those who, so to speak, are00:12:43
like real Ukrainians Yes, they are00:12:45
silent,00:12:46
and we also have Ukrainians. Such a00:12:49
trait, my house is on the edge. I don’t know anything00:12:53
there. Let them do what they want. But I’ll be here, the00:12:55
main thing for me is that the box00:12:58
has something to give it to00:12:59
say for Christmas, and to stab it, so that there are00:13:02
sausages and so on and00:13:04
there, what do you want to do? Just now, too,00:13:06
My mother came to the Kherson00:13:09
region Recently I was and talked with a00:13:13
woman, she says, well, who are there now,00:13:16
yes, she says, How is your00:13:18
life, she says, this is how we lived and how we00:13:20
live, for us there is practically nothing I don't00:13:23
know who's in the leadership of the Nest chapel,00:13:29
those who haven't been in the leadership before have gotten to the top,00:13:31
and they live00:13:33
there, something is better there, but we are simple00:13:36
hard workers, as we lived and still live, that's why00:13:39
you understand, and also in all00:13:42
countries.00:13:45
people are normal, adequate, they are busy,00:13:48
what are they doing, what are they doing, what do they need to do to feed00:13:50
their family, they need to do some of00:13:54
these everyday things and they were on the00:13:58
same Maidan in Western00:14:00
Ukraine. Why Because they00:14:03
basically do nothing in winter,00:14:04
they are there all winter on the Maidan and propr Yes,00:14:08
I was interested in the people who00:14:10
lived there for so long, literally, well, it’s interesting to see00:14:14
such a party, you know, a never-ending party. Yes, but00:14:17
from the south, very few people went there, and00:14:21
why? Because the south is just a whole00:14:24
conveyor belt. Yes, they are already January- February00:14:26
begins in the greenhouses of the00:14:29
plants, seedlings in order to00:14:34
plant them, only the00:14:38
first rays of the fact that spring has already00:14:41
appeared. Yes, they will plant them already under00:14:43
the film and this is almost all year round, there is00:14:46
literally a month of the entire gap. When00:14:48
can you rest a little Well, just00:14:49
relax and not go to the cold Maidan00:14:51
and jump there and so on, people rested00:14:52
again and continue to work because that’s the00:14:55
whole problem, that those who are now00:14:57
shouting the most are the ones who are glad to go to00:14:59
Ukraine, Ukraine there is the same thing, these are not00:15:02
Ukrainians, these are people who, well, well, are not those00:15:07
Ukrainians who for which00:15:08
Ukraine has always been famous. I always tell them,00:15:11
Guys, why did you decide that you are00:15:13
Ukrainians? And all the rest are not Ukrainians, I00:15:15
cannot betray the Ukrainian people00:15:17
because I am the Ukrainian people, I am My children,00:15:21
my fellow countrymen, and so on, we are the00:15:23
Ukrainian People. you came up with some kind of00:15:25
separate Ukraine that00:15:28
you think is like that No, it’s not like that,00:15:31
it’s not like that at all, that’s why00:15:33
all these conversations are loud, they’re00:15:37
jumping all over the Maidan and squares,00:15:39
so you get the impression that all00:15:41
Ukrainians are not like that, and they’re direct to me00:15:43
broadcasts people come, people talk and00:15:46
thank me for my broadcasts, and so I know that00:15:48
a lot of people are adequate, but they are00:15:50
afraid now. Well, there are enough00:15:53
stubborn people like you say, and in00:15:56
Russia, too, I talked about this either on00:15:59
the Maidan or on Bolotnaya,00:16:01
just recently history here in00:16:04
Yekaterinburg when they tried00:16:06
to restore the Catherine00:16:09
Cathedral, what was going on here, our00:16:11
youth were jumping, whoever didn’t jump was behind the00:16:14
temple,00:16:17
well, it was all the same. Tell me, are you00:16:21
by any chance not hereditary00:16:23
priest? For00:16:27
generations, the founder of the dynasty, my son is already a00:16:31
priest second son00:16:33
deacon Well, it’s not like that,00:16:37
he became a00:16:40
deacon, he never asked, he wasn’t eager for it, it’s00:16:42
just that the bishop said you will be a00:16:43
deacon today We lay your hand00:16:45
also he priests doesn’t ask, he00:16:47
stays says the Lord will rule I’ll be a00:16:49
priest That is, Well, he’s a deacon00:16:51
serves here Although I didn’t prepare my sons for this,00:16:55
and on the contrary,00:17:01
I always told them to become priests. My son is a00:17:03
priest. He studied to be a cook. The00:17:07
son of a deacon studied to be an IT specialist. So I told them.00:17:11
It’s better to be a good cook, a00:17:12
good IT specialist than a bad00:17:14
priest, because that I think that00:17:16
just like a doctor, a bad doctor is also a00:17:19
threat to humanity, and a bad00:17:21
priest is also a threat to humanity. Well, so to00:17:24
speak, I am sacred in the first generation.00:17:27
Well, are they with you or not? Yes, here we are.00:17:31
All of us. All the whole family, you know, I’m00:17:37
very I clearly realized the words of the Holy00:17:41
Scripture that there is no need to00:17:43
become attached to anything earthly. Yes, look for00:17:45
Treasures in heaven and not on Earth00:17:49
because my mother and I00:17:52
were collecting something there, somewhere, somehow we00:17:56
were organizing our life, some00:17:58
kind of sofa, we ordered what we wanted00:18:01
Yes, so that we would feel good We bought00:18:03
a mattress so that we are the same age so that it would be00:18:05
a little more00:18:07
comfortable to sleep on, so to speak, and00:18:10
all the members of the body would not hurt, so to speak, when you wake up, that’s00:18:13
all they left everything overnight and took00:18:17
with them the most expensive treasure I have, an00:18:19
Opel Vivara car, that is,00:18:22
eight people can fit here along with me,00:18:25
and so we took our whole family, along with our00:18:27
granddaughter, while only one and now everyone00:18:29
left. This is the main treasure we00:18:31
took and everything else remained there,00:18:33
so for me now I now understand00:18:35
what it means not to become attached to the earthly, it’s00:18:38
all perishable Well, yes, yes, of course, you have such an00:18:42
interesting00:18:45
test in life for your whole family, and00:18:48
I hope that you00:18:51
have survived it all with Christian dignity and then00:18:54
you will return to your homeland in the best possible way. I00:18:56
really hope you know. I remember what00:18:59
episode I remembered00:19:02
now. Once I was in one of the cities00:19:05
in Ukraine,00:19:06
and by the way, what is the correct way00:19:09
to speak in Ukraine or in Ukraine now,00:19:12
for you, as you recognize I00:19:15
never thought about how to speak correctly. I’m00:19:17
used to speaking in Ukraine, well, it’s00:19:18
a habit, I’ve been saying this for a long time,00:19:21
but those who speak in Ukraine do00:19:24
n’t hurt my ears. Well, let00:19:27
people say that, that is, I’ve never thought about it,00:19:29
I haven’t I am, so to speak, a00:19:32
fan of philological showdowns, that’s why00:19:36
for me what they call it Let them00:19:38
call it The main thing is that she is my Ukraine00:19:40
reborn and becomes the Ukraine that00:19:43
I love her. Now I fully00:19:48
support you, she is also my Ukraine. I00:19:50
love her very much, I miss Ukraine, that was00:19:54
the time when I00:19:56
came there and in00:19:58
2008 I went into an Orthodox church in one of the cities00:20:05
and I was00:20:07
met not far from the entrance to the temple by00:20:10
a man00:20:12
and I asked him who is this temple00:20:16
named after? He tells me some kind of00:20:19
temple and he says You don’t00:20:27
know the places Nest,00:20:29
before entering the temple you need00:20:30
to inquire Whose temple is this, if00:20:33
he has domes there, so to speak, crosses, he00:20:36
looks all Orthodox, that doesn’t00:20:37
mean that he is our temple So always00:20:41
ask if you do, I thought so then00:20:43
Yes I did then I didn’t really dive into00:20:46
this whole00:20:47
issue of the church00:20:50
system in Ukraine in Ukraine, but00:20:54
then I started to get interested and then00:20:57
literally like a Snowball began00:20:59
to grow, this00:21:02
church problem in Ukraine, well, there00:21:05
was no escape from it. And the last00:21:08
event is what happened there in00:21:10
October,00:21:11
when the Rada00:21:14
approved this00:21:17
bill to00:21:19
practically ban the Ukrainian Orthodox00:21:21
Church of the Moscow00:21:23
Patriarchate and what happened in May, when the00:21:26
Council of the Ukrainian Orthodox00:21:29
Church was meeting, when the00:21:32
bishops themselves announced the corresponding00:21:35
declarations00:21:37
that Well, it00:21:41
separates us so much, and now00:21:45
of course this cannot on the one hand, not to00:21:47
cause00:21:48
concern for the fate of the church for the fate of00:21:50
believers in Ukraine, but on the other00:21:54
hand, maybe this is good. What do you00:21:56
think, father, this is such a test00:22:00
for the church for believers in Ukraine00:22:06
now, after all. In a sense, the church is00:22:08
supposed to be00:22:10
nima. Well Let’s just say it’s not supposed to be00:22:13
nima, the savior warned that not everything00:22:16
will be good with us, that is, about this, and00:22:18
you know, I know priests who, before00:22:21
Baptism, very00:22:26
Honore tells that don’t get ready, that it00:22:30
will be good, that you are ready00:22:33
to die Tomorrow you are ready there and so on00:22:35
people I'm starting to come to00:22:37
my senses a little bit, so to speak, I'll say00:22:41
that, well, by and large, of course, persecution,00:22:44
they are cleansing the church Yes, Thaya's hut is already00:22:47
a phrase about how to do this00:22:49
so that when there is garbage among the gold, you00:22:51
need to set it on fire and then the garbage will burn,00:22:53
the gold will remain here That’s why here I00:22:56
often give an example of how,00:22:58
let’s say, a ship sits in the Harbor for a00:23:01
month or two a year. Yes, it00:23:06
just grows with all these shells from the bottom,00:23:08
and then it goes out into the ocean00:23:10
when it goes, then all these shells00:23:12
disappear. Yes, by and large, many00:23:15
have seen Who What does it mean? Yes, who in these00:23:20
persecutions, let’s say, is the real00:23:23
Orthodox, who is the real hierarch? Yes,00:23:28
we just filmed our program today.00:23:31
There we have with Father Leo such a00:23:32
program, a controversial issue. We filmed and00:23:34
discussed this very thing. Vladyka00:23:37
Theodosius of Cherkassy, let’s say Vladyka of the00:23:39
Bow Zaporozhye Vladyka Jonathan, who00:23:47
ordained me And so you Sokol Vladyka I00:23:58
Yes, he is directly facing a prison term there, and at00:24:02
his age and with his00:24:03
diseases, diabetes mellitus is00:24:05
practically a death sentence, that’s why,00:24:08
but I am very proud that00:24:11
Vladyka00:24:13
Yafan ordained me because for me now, at the00:24:15
moment, this is one of the examples of00:24:18
decency of the church hierarch,00:24:22
someone you know in general, so00:24:26
let it be normal to calmly treat all00:24:29
our Orthodox Christians there00:24:31
because you understand the situation there is that it is00:24:34
difficult for everyone to be heroes. But for00:24:40
those who00:24:43
speak out back. I think you know, I have00:24:47
also repeatedly stated about this00:24:48
that it’s like with broken arms.00:24:51
Forgive them. We ask for them all. Yes, but we wo00:24:53
n’t be able to hug them anymore, and I think that those00:24:56
who went to the Ptsu there in this00:24:58
schism, they no longer need to be returned back00:25:00
through Repentance in the Holy Order, that is, as a00:25:02
layman, please Come back, no one is00:25:04
against you Well, in your00:25:06
pastoral time, so to speak,00:25:09
your time, you showed yourself that you are00:25:11
absolutely not a Shepherd at best00:25:18
You yourself abandoned the sheep and left, yes And at worst00:25:21
you took it with you there the death of their00:25:25
sheep Therefore, yes, they00:25:28
found out, saw, looked, Who What is it worth, there00:25:32
isn’t even any discussion here, so to speak,00:25:35
another thing is that I understand that00:25:37
anyway, it doesn’t make things any easier for people there now,00:25:41
after all, it’s00:25:44
difficult to be00:25:45
afraid for your temple because00:25:48
I’m for myself I know most of them are not00:25:50
afraid, but for the temple, for the fact that there will be no00:25:53
place to pray, for the fact that there will be no place to00:25:55
receive communion, this is a horse,00:25:58
but the church has survived even more difficult00:26:02
situations and I am sure that I always declare00:26:05
this that the gates of Hell, which are now00:26:08
very deployed in Ukraine they will not00:26:11
overcome the church. I am also sure of this. I00:26:14
think that even if the Ukrainian00:26:18
Orthodox Church has to endure00:26:20
perhaps the most difficult times in00:26:21
its history, it will still be reborn00:26:23
because I know how00:26:28
religious the Ukrainian people are00:26:32
and they love the church very much, they love00:26:36
Christ and maybe I don’t presume to judge,00:26:41
but the attitude towards the church and towards God there is more,00:26:45
well, warm and reverent than in the00:26:47
northern regions of our historical00:26:51
Russia. I can say with these people00:26:55
about the za kimet because there00:27:00
was the most famous All-Ukrainian Religious00:27:05
Procession. And by the way, this was probably the first The00:27:08
procession of the cross was not the first. My procession of the cross00:27:09
was when I went to00:27:11
Pochaevsky. Well, that’s also how it00:27:13
was, let’s say the first Temple that Ott00:27:18
was based on such a scheme that when00:27:21
those who don’t go to the temple vote, there was a temple of which I was the00:27:25
rector. I really wouldn’t mind it,00:27:28
so to speak. and so to speak, our00:27:30
dean there who has now passed over to the Ptsu00:27:33
was playing with this, it didn’t suit him, I00:27:35
because I had my such a position,00:27:37
he was such an ardent Natsik, let’s say so, I wo00:27:41
n’t say a Patriot, but the Natsik directly came from there, from the00:27:43
Lviv region, and so he tried to me00:27:46
remove and this is the scheme he’s like and00:27:49
it worked then that’s why there was something like this00:27:52
before I did00:27:54
n’t go to godparents and I’m thinking, well, why00:27:56
go to godparents, there’s a throne, stand up00:27:59
and pray that you go somewhere yes And00:28:02
here I00:28:03
Relatives called too, the priest00:28:06
from there from under the Pocha says here is the00:28:09
Procession of the Cross I’m coming, I’m thinking, Why not00:28:13
go Well, I’ll go and sat down and I went and this00:28:16
Procession of the Cross goes almost 20000:28:18
km and I understood the benefits for me as a00:28:22
priest, you understand how the pastor here is00:28:24
ops They showed me that the Shepherd is00:28:28
what we are like. You really don’t know anything about us.00:28:30
I realized that I don’t00:28:31
know anything about our Orthodox Christians. This is how00:28:34
strong the People are in the Faith, that’s why I say no all the time.00:28:38
These people won’t betray the church.00:28:39
Let them shoot and kill them. Well00:28:42
how they climbed these mountains on these00:28:45
how they overcame these obstacles00:28:47
dirt I remember And at the same time there are also such00:28:50
wonderful situations. We have a00:28:53
daughter in our father. She is disabled herself and they00:28:57
rolled her into wheelchairs and just mud to00:29:00
walk across the field, he says, I00:29:02
’ll probably go back because I wo00:29:04
n’t go further there with her than we see, the further00:29:05
the more mud, and then somewhere from00:29:08
somewhere four men appeared00:29:10
who grabbed for them, I didn’t have time to00:29:13
run straight after them along they carried this dirt00:29:15
to the asphalt and seemed to00:29:16
dissolve, I say, look how00:29:18
the Angels came right here and carried it.00:29:20
This is all how much00:29:22
this first procession of the Cross strengthened me in the Faith, and when00:29:25
the all-Ukrainian ones, which If you remember,00:29:27
went from Pochaev and from the Svyatogorsk Lavra, they00:29:32
should have to meet in Kiev and how they were00:29:35
then, the Nazis tried to block the00:29:38
road to this religious procession. I then00:29:40
said, I’ll definitely go. That is, I did00:29:43
n’t think. Well, this is the unofficial me, I00:29:45
already liked him, this official one,00:29:47
I thought I wouldn’t go, but here no, I’ll00:29:48
definitely go, I went then went with the00:29:50
Pochaev branch, came home, served the00:29:52
liturgy on Sunday, went to the00:29:54
Svyatogorsk Lavra and this, as far as00:29:57
you understand, is the00:29:59
triumph of Orthodoxy. The holiday00:30:02
that takes place here in the first week of00:30:06
Lent, I saw this gesture,00:30:08
right, I took part in it and my soul rejoiced00:30:11
in this these processions of the cross00:30:12
when we came to Pochaev, having overcome00:30:15
all these obstacles when we came to00:30:17
Kiev in a procession of the cross, that is,00:30:20
uh, and these people strengthened me in the Faith and I00:30:24
will now leave on all uh platforms that there is00:30:27
no need to speak badly about00:30:30
Ukrainians because Ukrainians - these are00:30:32
completely different, I know them, I saw them, I00:30:36
covered many kilometers with them, and00:30:39
they will not let the gates of hell overcome00:30:42
the church. Yes, we all here in00:30:44
Russia have hope for this Ukraine,00:30:48
for this people, which we generally00:30:52
believe our people We are one people and00:30:56
we experienced similar experiences in the00:30:59
Velikoretsk procession when you00:31:02
say the triumph of Orthodoxy But in00:31:04
fact, from morning to evening the triumph00:31:06
of Orthodoxy and especially when you00:31:07
return back the00:31:09
procession ends You directly feel How00:31:12
God is present here in all the fullness of00:31:15
its grace in all people who are tired00:31:18
but joyful, they radiate this joy00:31:21
from within and in fact they are ready to00:31:24
give their lives for God and the church,00:31:27
this gives great hope that nothing00:31:29
will work out for those people you00:31:31
call Nazis, although00:31:34
our videos very often00:31:37
comments come from Ukraine and say Where did you00:31:40
see the Natsik in our country, where did you find them, then00:31:44
we are all normal people, all the Natsiks are00:31:47
in this spirit, this is how you are as a00:31:50
person What is called from there What can you00:31:53
say on this topic Yes, I am in I am also in on00:31:57
live broadcasts they also come and say00:31:59
Where where did you see us, I say guys, I You00:32:01
can write this to people who00:32:05
lived in Russia and never went to00:32:07
Ukraine And I was and lived in Ukraine and I know00:32:11
where they are, uh, and I say Just enter it in a00:32:14
search engine Ukraine Nazism everything and pictures are00:32:18
just pictures, you don’t even need to00:32:19
read anything, just pictures and you will see a00:32:22
whole page of swastikas that00:32:25
go with them Yes, this is just it Well, it’s purely00:32:28
external, but the atmosphere of anger and00:32:32
hatred itself You look at how you00:32:35
go to any starting point from this tele00:32:38
marathon and ending with Telegram channels00:32:41
or chats where00:32:43
they communicate00:32:44
wishes for all sorts of torments of00:32:48
death, we never hate you, and on the00:32:51
other hand, come in, of course there are not enough00:32:54
And on this side there are such people But if it happens00:32:56
everywhere there, then here the00:32:58
majority are still here, I’m just communicating with00:32:59
ordinary people I have never seen anyone here00:33:02
hate the Ukrainians themselves. Yes, there00:33:05
is no such thing, people are in common, on the contrary, there is00:33:08
some kind of sympathy, despite the fact00:33:10
that their relatives are participating in the SV and00:33:14
some have already died, there is nothing new towards the00:33:17
Ukrainians.00:33:20
I don’t have one the woman00:33:22
said, or rather, she also wrote in00:33:25
the comments that her brother00:33:28
was there from there and was returning home, she00:33:31
says I was afraid to meet him00:33:33
because I knew what he was like before,00:33:35
I was afraid that a completely different00:33:37
person would come with00:33:38
evil hatred and so on. there is00:33:41
a need for this and when he came when I00:33:44
started communicating with him I say age he00:33:47
remained the same and when we started talking about this topic00:33:49
He says yes I don’t have00:33:51
any hatred for them I do what I00:33:53
have to do I have to defend my00:33:55
Fatherland I’m defending him, there’s00:33:58
no one I do00:34:00
n’t even have a conscious mind at all, so00:34:03
you see, Nazism is a00:34:08
misanthrope00:34:13
[music]00:34:27
you can do as much as you want. Just like that.00:34:29
You see, people on the other00:34:34
side have something00:34:36
like that, well, it may be enough here, and00:34:39
they just perceive00:34:41
information in in the form of a mush, they00:34:43
experienced everything and put in this mush00:34:46
liquid like after an operation00:34:49
Yes, it accepts and everything and they00:34:52
digested it all because in principle there is00:34:55
nothing to digest there Yes,00:34:56
and they carry it, so when they00:34:58
throw off the slogan there tspso that there is Nazism in Ukraine00:35:01
No, they don’t see any swastikas,00:35:04
then they don’t see torchlight processions, they do00:35:06
n’t see all this for them, so they said it00:35:09
means there’s nothing there, but if00:35:13
you watch everything carefully Yes, look at all this,00:35:16
I saw Nazism there back in00:35:18
1913, 1914, even00:35:20
earlier I saw how these plastuns00:35:24
prepared, how they prepared it all, and this is00:35:28
probably my biggest complaint,00:35:31
which would have been if I had met00:35:32
Yanukovych somewhere. I would have told him why00:35:34
you allowed this, I understand that you00:35:36
wanted to win the elections against this background. But00:35:39
why didn’t you understood what you were playing with00:35:41
What kind of Pandora's box was it? After all, the SBU00:35:45
had all the power in their hands, why did00:35:47
n't you nip it in the bud, well, it00:35:51
was still there, it didn't even start with the Maidan,00:35:54
it started a00:35:57
long time ago, from the very beginning of Independence this was00:35:59
being prepared, it was very difficult to00:36:02
reformat the Ukrainian people,00:36:04
who are accustomed to friendship with Russia,00:36:06
it was very difficult to00:36:08
reformat Belarus. However, it worked00:36:12
out and that’s why I don’t even00:36:16
want to hear these conversations that there is00:36:18
Nazism in Ukraine. No, it exists and it needs to be00:36:20
destroyed by the Armed Forces once and for all. forever, not like00:36:23
then they gave away00:36:25
part00:36:27
of them with this,00:36:30
revive Nazism, but you need to destroy its00:36:33
embryo, no longer an embryo, that is,00:36:36
destroy it and destroy its embryo,00:36:39
Father Gennady, how do you feel00:36:41
about this idea? Many people00:36:43
say that this so-called00:36:47
Ukrainian Nazism is not00:36:50
only a product of recent years,00:36:55
the history of00:36:57
teenagers has been picking up this00:37:01
Russian information, let’s say so. And that this is00:37:05
some kind of long-standing initial premise, that00:37:08
among some part of the Ukrainian people this00:37:11
has been passed on from generation to generation00:37:13
for a long time, is this true? Well, at least not00:37:15
in ours, not in ours half00:37:25
of the southeast Yes, the part that was00:37:28
under Austro-Hungary under Poland they were00:37:30
much more oppressive, so to speak, of00:37:33
our national, yes, that00:37:37
is, if there they could not occupy00:37:40
any leadership positions there, if they00:37:42
had to, they were determined to be00:37:44
slaves all the time barracks Perhaps on00:37:46
this basis they had this00:37:49
syndrome, this one When it is00:37:53
necessary as there is such a Ukrainian00:37:58
word for national00:38:05
moorings in the Russian Empire they were00:38:08
equal, the Little Russian peasants were the same way they00:38:11
lived, they felt like the peasants,00:38:14
let’s say in the Oryol province there in00:38:16
Tambov That is you were all equal in this00:38:17
regard, that’s why00:38:20
such problems didn’t arise when they speak00:38:23
from the other side they say you betrayed your00:38:25
fathers and grandfathers I tell the guys what are you talking about00:38:27
My fathers and grandfathers probably didn’t even00:38:28
know a word about this Ukraine, that is, they00:38:30
found out When Stalin made Ukraine,00:38:33
when Lenin began to donate regions there for00:38:36
Ukraine and so on, and before that they lived00:38:39
and felt like Little Russians. Or maybe I00:38:41
didn’t think about it at all, yes, that00:38:43
is, I can’t say about it, that is,00:38:45
our part. She never did that. Therefore,00:38:48
there was a policy, of course, such a policy was carried out00:38:52
gradually, little by little, but00:38:55
for a while there was just00:38:59
such an00:39:01
influx of immigrants from Western Ukraine to the southeast, they were00:39:05
provided with everything, they were00:39:08
provided with housing, they all came here00:39:11
with just wooden suitcases, so to speak,00:39:13
and here they received00:39:16
housing because the region rich, if he is still00:39:19
hard-working, then they lived very well, on the one00:39:22
hand, of course, I am grateful to this00:39:24
resettlement policy, so to speak, that00:39:26
I married my mother, her parents00:39:29
also came from the Khmelnitsky region.00:39:31
But on the other hand, of course, this was00:39:33
some kind of thought out by someone like this00:39:36
in order to resettle the southeast with people00:39:39
whose this idea was deeply ingrained, that00:39:43
at one time, yes, where did00:39:46
these UPA come from, well, it all comes from there.00:39:51
But I won’t say that that part of, let’s say,00:39:55
Ukraine that was in the00:39:57
Russian Empire, what is it? uh from a long time ago00:40:01
and they know what current00:40:03
historians say, Ukrainian pseudo historians, that00:40:05
this is from an old dream00:40:09
of uh Ukrainians to get their own state00:40:13
Yes, we didn’t have such a thing We didn’t00:40:15
even have some of us were taken aback In the ninety-00:40:18
first year when we got an independent00:40:20
state Why do we need it I know it. I00:40:23
know it because, to be honest, I00:40:27
was one of the so-called agitators of00:40:29
Independence. Well, it was purely, again,00:40:31
my beliefs are based00:40:34
on real conclusions. That is, I00:40:37
believed that Ukraine, having become an independent00:40:39
state, would become one of the strongest00:40:41
European states and to there were00:40:44
all the prerequisites for this so that they wouldn’t tell me the00:40:46
prerequisites for this were a strong00:40:48
powerful economy factories factories00:40:51
minerals this with a00:40:54
smart leader it would be a serious00:40:58
uh so to00:41:01
speak alternative to other00:41:04
European states and no one wanted it they were00:41:06
afraid that’s why everything Europe was leading to00:41:09
collapse Yes if you pay attention attention, as00:41:11
soon as the economic growth in00:41:14
Ukraine began, it was just 2002-2003, when00:41:18
all even foreign publications wrote00:41:20
that you remember such a comparison was Ukraine00:41:23
is the Eastern European tigress in00:41:25
the economy.00:41:28
Here is the Maidan and the first Maidan Yes,00:41:32
the Europeans are also afraid to accept Ukraine00:41:35
to this day time to the European Union because they will00:41:37
crush their agricultural products, they00:41:39
say, on the condition that there will be no00:41:41
export00:41:42
of agricultural products, not only from products00:41:44
now, they saw when madmen00:41:48
who, so to00:41:51
speak, stained their underwear with ketchup and00:41:54
all their activities without this00:41:56
on underwear from embassy to embassy Here00:41:59
that is, you understand. That is, as if there is00:42:07
[music]00:42:25
working so00:42:26
that00:42:30
Ukraine, the Ukrainian Orthodox00:42:33
Church, which we00:42:36
talked about today and for which we are so worried, so that00:42:38
it all revives in such a healthy00:42:43
form where the00:42:48
Victory Banner of that armed00:42:50
conflict should be hoisted in which00:42:53
Ukraine Russia is now located, you me a little As00:42:57
they say, you put me in front of this purely00:43:00
purely internally Yes, purely internally,00:43:03
I would like the Victory Banner00:43:06
to stop, you know, once I was in00:43:09
Pochaeva, she Pochaeva is now in the00:43:12
Ternopil region So00:43:15
since the Ternopil region - this is a00:43:17
lyna and one monk came up to me and says00:43:20
no, we were talking, he says no,00:43:22
this is not a rut, look over there. You see, I’m00:43:24
talking from the mountains here, Yes, that’s where the00:43:26
lyna begins, and this is Volyn.00:43:29
I would put the Victory Banner on that hill. and00:43:31
that’s all And then let everything remain in00:43:33
Europe, but on the other hand I00:43:35
know very well that beech recently I00:43:38
also received a message on Stream from the00:43:42
Ternopil region, father, we are with you00:43:44
How can you leave people there00:43:48
who are really ours? Yes, I’m talking about00:43:51
this too, that’s why it’s all but it’s probably necessary there on the00:43:54
borders Where the European Union begins00:43:58
because Well, it’s not00:44:00
worth further because this will already be a serious,00:44:03
very serious war. Therefore, it’s better00:44:05
there, at the last checkpoint of Ukraine with the00:44:10
very Western Well, that means you and I have the00:44:13
same idea of geography, I00:44:15
also think that at least there Yes, just00:44:19
purely by feeling, of course, I understand that00:44:21
it’s a little bit so to speak, that’s where00:44:25
most of the00:44:28
troubles came from there, and by staying00:44:31
here, maybe later, when they are freed,00:44:33
then we can restore order there a little and give them00:44:35
some kind of autonomy so that they lived00:44:38
there for themselves, round dances around Bandera, they had a swim, they00:44:41
went, but you understand that at one time00:44:45
I very much supported the candidacy of00:44:47
Chernovol Vyacheslav for the post00:44:50
of President, I don’t regret it now that00:44:52
I00:44:54
loved the idea then he proposed00:44:58
and if it had happened it would00:45:03
probably have been like this there were no consequences, he00:45:04
proposed an autonomous, that is, a00:45:07
federal structure of Ukraine in the00:45:09
lands of Polesie, lyna there, Tavria, and so00:45:13
on. So I think that this would remove00:45:16
all these contradictions. Because00:45:19
if it were some kind of Federation,00:45:21
then it would be if they wouldn’t have interfered, you know00:45:25
how it was00:45:27
in my correspondence back on social networks00:45:30
when someone there writes to me from Lchi, we00:45:35
’ll come there to you, talk And on what00:45:37
basis? You’ll come here, I00:45:39
live here, my parents are here, so you00:45:42
’ll come here and here You will arrange00:45:44
your own rules for me And he says because00:45:46
this is my Ukraine, blame Dodon, govo And where is00:45:49
my00:45:50
Ukraine, I don’t have my own Ukraine00:45:52
Why do you00:45:53
have nya those, if there was a federal00:45:58
structure, then there weren’t these from the00:46:00
sleep to the Don Here you are there you can imagine00:46:02
Shukhevych there to celebrate all of them to Bender00:46:05
but you won’t come to the Donbass to erect00:46:08
monuments there because of the Donbass Krasnodon,00:46:11
that is, these same Young Guard and so00:46:13
on. That is, these heroes it would be00:46:16
like this, I think that this is by the way00:46:20
only now I finally came up with this00:46:21
idea, I will now proclaim everywhere00:46:24
that yes, the banner should be at the last00:46:26
Western checkpoint with the European Union, but then it is necessary00:46:30
if Ukraine Ukraine remains a00:46:33
separate state like Belarus00:46:35
is permissible, but in a union state, then it is00:46:37
immediately necessary to have a federal00:46:39
structure. That is, it should no00:46:40
longer be so unitary And should be00:46:42
Federal with a weakened00:46:44
centralized power but00:46:46
with as much of it as possible, so to speak00:46:51
Well, in short, I’ll sell it like this Well, for sure00:46:54
many politicians in Moscow will also00:46:58
support you in this regard Let them00:47:00
also think about this topic,00:47:03
but00:47:05
in general, Father Gennady,00:47:09
as an Orthodox00:47:13
priest, what is your forecast00:47:16
for the development of relations between Moscow00:47:20
and00:47:21
Kiev in the coming00:47:24
years00:47:26
? The Second Coming of Christ and then the00:47:29
Last00:47:30
Judgment This is the only forecast as a00:47:34
priest,00:47:37
I also answer as a historian. In addition, I00:47:40
teach history and philosophy at a university00:47:45
Yes, your Oleg, by the way, he brought us together,00:47:50
so I, as a historian, I00:47:54
’ll say in00:47:56
Chechnya, I was terrified then. Although it was, we00:47:59
were already in Ukraine. Yes, but I’m terrified that this is for00:48:02
centuries because I thought that00:48:04
you understand, well, understanding what the Caucasus is00:48:07
understanding these blood-related Revenge and everything00:48:09
else, and we were once still an00:48:12
actor when I was an actor, that is, I worked.00:48:14
When we were on tour in Grozny at the theater in Kherson,00:48:15
I talked with these people,00:48:18
I saw how when our actress was there,00:48:21
someone there was her there, well, they violated her, then00:48:23
while they were there, these same Chechens00:48:26
staged a whole St. Bartholomew’s Night for their own Chechens there00:48:29
for the fact that they00:48:31
did this because they were their guests and00:48:33
so on. That is, to what extent is00:48:35
all this here, I thought that it was on00:48:38
centuries because no one will ever forgive00:48:40
all this And suddenly now the Chechens00:48:43
along with the Russians are fighting shoulder to shoulder00:48:46
there everything And that is, uh Everything depends00:48:50
on the wise policy of the Russian leadership00:48:53
and I’m sure that uh if it happens That’s00:48:58
how it is and with and in Chechnya, yes, very00:49:01
quickly it’ll all be forgotten, it’s all being treated00:49:04
by people who are there, these are the only00:49:08
sources of information, they’re not even here, I00:49:10
communicate with them, and then there my Mother00:49:13
corresponds with my parishioners00:49:14
who are on the other side, who were former,00:49:17
so to speak they went there and00:49:20
you understand, they use only one00:49:21
source, they are not faced with what is00:49:23
happening00:49:26
around, so to00:49:29
speak, all these events, that is, well,00:49:31
I always tell them, well, use all the00:49:33
sources. Well, read, read,00:49:36
let’s say on telegram I am subscribed to hundreds of00:49:38
channels that Among them there are00:49:40
Ukrainian ones, I read them because you know00:49:42
when, let’s say, they say the adek has been taken, I00:49:45
read whether the adek has been taken there No, it hasn’t been00:49:47
taken yet I can no longer conclude that it’s00:49:49
already so to say Perhaps soon But00:49:52
for now there’s no way to00:49:54
give a formation when they especially00:49:59
have those people who say that they are00:50:00
used to using the gruel Yes, when they00:50:02
howl this gruel and put another one in there,00:50:03
it seems they But it’s completely different, and of00:50:06
course,00:50:07
what’s happening around, what’s happening Yes,00:50:11
now in the Kherson region there are00:50:13
many advantages, there are many disadvantages, but the00:50:15
disadvantages work against Yes but the advantages00:50:19
just calm people down a little,00:50:22
they begin to understand that first of all, what00:50:25
You understand, when Russia starts doing00:50:27
Roads that have not been done yet In00:50:29
Ukraine, they are starting to do those that were00:50:31
pothole repairs now they are doing00:50:33
normal repairs, they are starting00:50:34
to think Well, firstly, probably00:50:35
Russia- then forever yes, that is, well, they hardly00:50:38
spent they started spending money just like00:50:40
that When will Mariupol rebuild such00:50:42
neighborhoods and the same thing Yes people are starting00:50:44
to think about it secondly00:50:46
uh Well you know uh when00:50:50
the occupiers say the occupiers have come to00:50:53
occupy uh Russia and Ukrainian lands I00:50:58
say Well guys, let's compare00:51:02
the occupation Yes, Germany, Ukraine or the USA00:51:07
Iraq Yes, there is also an occupation there Tell me00:51:10
Which occupiers paid pensions to their00:51:13
occupied territories, uh, help for00:51:16
children, built roads for them, gave them00:51:20
jobs, gave them citizenship of their00:51:23
country, let's remember Germany Yes, these same00:51:28
Ausweiss but it wasn’t not00:51:31
German citizenship It was just a certificate00:51:33
You see, you just compare00:51:37
some kind of strange occupation, it turns out to be somehow00:51:40
incomprehensible yes All of us are00:51:43
like occupiers all over the world so that00:51:46
they come and start, so all these questions00:51:49
are equated to their citizens and how00:51:51
they gave their citizens even moreover, I00:51:53
will say that in the Kherson region there00:51:55
are now people from Russia who want to00:51:58
come there because the occupiers there are now00:52:00
paying military bonuses to their00:52:03
salaries, that is, they are much higher there now, at the00:52:06
moment, while military00:52:07
operations are going on, the salaries are much higher than00:52:10
in all regions of Russia, what else00:52:13
do you know, it’s unknown where there are more00:52:15
Ukrainian00:52:16
names in Russia or in occupied Territory,00:52:21
this goes without saying that00:52:25
you don’t communicate with people, then on this side everyone has00:52:28
relatives in Russia or acquaintances,00:52:29
some colleagues served in the army together00:52:32
This how intertwined the two peoples are and it00:52:36
really hurts me that we were like, well, we were00:52:41
misled like boys, that is, they took and00:52:46
forced my dear Ukrainian00:52:49
people,00:52:50
uh, to cultivate for themselves the malice of a00:52:53
story behind this malice and hatred for the00:52:55
same brothers like us for the00:52:57
same people who are the same00:52:58
Orthodox and so on, it’s very00:53:00
painful and offensive to accept all this,00:53:04
but I hope that everything will work out, maybe00:53:06
this is Father Gennady, maybe this is00:53:08
the other side of our00:53:10
centuries-old church education.00:53:12
This is our gullibility. We00:53:14
really are like boys, like children,00:53:16
it’s easy to deceive us, even though Christ says,00:53:19
Be simple as a head, we are wise as00:53:21
snakes, but uh, Orthodox people are very00:53:24
gullible,00:53:26
and in Russia, remember how we were deceived at the00:53:28
beginning of the 10th century by our people with these00:53:33
slogans. Here I don’t agree with you,00:53:35
he’s a real Orthodox Christian trusting,00:53:37
but at the same time he has a good sense of the00:53:41
line between good and00:53:43
evil, he will not do evil because he00:53:47
understands that evil is00:53:50
bad because what happened there in the early00:53:54
nineties, I won’t say what it00:53:56
was, it was a mass churching of people, it00:53:58
was just fashionable, yes And then everyone00:54:00
filled the churches, got married, then00:54:02
got married, you know, the church had to00:54:04
even accept the whole00:54:06
social concept, so to speak, which indicated00:54:08
that this is all this is a red line.00:54:09
You can’t go there because they started getting married, who am I,00:54:12
let’s say there is a wife there, but they are getting married00:54:14
with a mistress That’s because, as it were, uh00:54:17
to prove to her that I am faithful to her and there00:54:19
have been such cases, I know this, and that’s why now the00:54:22
church has never had this, but now00:54:24
the church only performs weddings when there is a00:54:27
marriage certificate. So, that is,00:54:30
for the church this has never played00:54:32
a role before. Yes, although in principle00:54:34
Previously, the church00:54:36
was registered by the empire, but nevertheless,00:54:39
you understand, that is, it was not a00:54:42
deep churching. It’s just that it’s fashionable and00:54:46
everyone started going, they started doing the same thing, just00:54:48
like let’s say Baptism was not always00:54:49
that serious00:54:52
step. Well, I’m baptized, my parents00:54:55
So I’m nursing my babies and I always00:54:59
warned. Here in Russia now,00:55:01
what makes me happy is that before Epiphany00:55:03
before the wedding there is a public00:55:04
conversation when they talk with00:55:10
[music]00:55:25
I introduced for myself then like00:55:26
this I right during Baptism00:55:29
several points, so to speak He indicated00:55:32
where I was staying and told me what00:55:34
would happen next and warned me00:55:37
about it, that this is not just a step, that00:55:38
godparents are you, not only00:55:42
will godparents be allowed to00:55:48
come to you for Christmas dinner before Christmas, you00:55:55
understand, so I don’t think that this is00:55:57
church upbringing, church00:56:00
upbringing as just00:56:02
now the church has begun, very active actions have begun.00:56:06
I think that His Holiness has led the00:56:09
church in the right direction.00:56:11
Sunday school missionary00:56:13
priests on the Internet have been called by00:56:15
the Holy One himself, that is, he is coming. This is the00:56:19
powerful work of the church. In order to00:56:25
save souls, you understand. This did not happen before,00:56:27
but anyway, people who are churchgoers, they would00:56:30
n’t fall for it and won’t behave like, for example, in00:56:33
Ukraine, I’m absolutely00:56:36
sure once again that they are real believers, they don’t00:56:38
play these games of patriotism. There and so00:56:41
on, Ukraine is on point because for00:56:43
them, Christ is on point, just like should be00:56:47
Come on Dear Father Gennady I00:56:50
thank you for this conversation, let’s00:56:53
put a comma today.00:56:56
I really hope that today we have just00:56:58
started this communication. It will be very00:57:01
interesting for me to communicate with you and then I00:57:03
think for our00:57:05
viewers we will have a conversation with a00:57:08
wonderful Russian00:57:10
Ukrainian priest origin otm Gennady00:57:13
Kirem like this smiling sober00:57:25
guardian angel00:57:29
[music]00:57:53
to everyone YDescription:
Церковь никогда не знала спокойных времен. Когда уходили внешние проблемы, тут же появлялись внутренние. Так и сегодня. У нашей Церкви очередной кризисный период, из которого она, как обычно выйдет лучше, чем была. Просто, для Церкви, чем хуже тем она сама лучше. Так устроил Церковь Сам ее Основатель - Христос. Сегодня мы обсуждаем проблемы УПЦ с очень интересным батюшкой, отцом Геннадием Шкиль. Многие знают его по замечательному YouTube каналу: @Akaphist А у нас с ним первая встреча, после которой хочется продолжения разговора. Так что, продолжение следует. Канал отца Геннадия: @Akaphisthttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcjzpfGPQz1cgvTvp587HnQ Сайт Вячеслава Боровских - https://borovskih.ru/ Центр "Подвижник" - https://podvizhnik.ru/ Официальная группа ВКонтакте - https://vk.com/podvizhnik_ru
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