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00:00:17
Good afternoon, gentlemen, this is Yulia Latynina and00:00:19
Mikhail Podolyak. Sorry, we have a00:00:21
little difficulty with the camera, but it doesn’t bother us to listen to it00:00:24
along the way.00:00:30
Mikhail, hello,00:00:34
hello, don’t forget, Gentlemen,00:00:36
to subscribe to our channel. Don’t forget00:00:38
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links to this broadcast and for the first time Of course,00:00:44
Mikhail, we are starting this broadcast not from00:00:46
Ukraine, but from Israel.00:00:52
And what00:00:56
happened? Well, I wouldn’t say that we are00:00:59
not starting from Ukraine because this is an00:01:00
indirect reflection of what is happening00:01:02
in Ukraine, including Well, first of all,00:01:03
let’s immediately state clearly that00:01:05
Of course, Hamas is a terrorist00:01:07
organization that entered the territory of00:01:09
Israel in Southern Israel with one goal: to kill on a large00:01:10
scale to kill00:01:12
civilians, to take hostages,00:01:14
by the way, they themselves talk about this both publicly and00:01:15
privately, and so on, and00:01:18
accordingly, as far as I understand, Hamas00:01:20
was counting on a different type of reaction from00:01:23
Israel and the world that everyone will immediately begin to00:01:25
wail like, well, just let’s00:01:27
not offend the gases now and,00:01:30
accordingly, you won’t carry out00:01:32
acts of retaliation there, and so on. It seems to me00:01:33
that now the situation looks exactly00:01:36
as it should look after the00:01:39
commission of a large-scale terrorist00:01:41
act, which in in principle, could develop into a00:01:43
full-fledged full-scale big00:01:45
war in the Middle East from the point00:01:49
of view. Why do I say that this is an indirect00:01:51
reflection of the situation in Ukraine?00:01:54
Because undoubtedly the first reason for all the00:01:56
current growing escalations,00:01:58
including in the Middle East, including on the00:02:00
African Continent, is00:02:01
undoubtedly In my look absolutely00:02:03
clear full-scale invasion and a war00:02:06
that lasts 19 months on the territory of00:02:08
Eastern Europe, a large-scale war00:02:10
with a large front line, which, in00:02:12
principle, after the Second World War, for the first time in such a00:02:14
size, in such a volume and in the00:02:16
same volume, for the first time, large00:02:21
and technical means and actually00:02:24
mobilized and army and so on and so00:02:26
forth Well, besides, the third00:02:29
component is00:02:31
undoubtedly, I don’t even doubt it, it’s00:02:35
visible exactly the same, or rather, it’s visible00:02:38
exactly the same handwriting that we saw00:02:41
in the work of the Russian army on the00:02:43
civilian population in the Kiev00:02:44
region there in Chernigov in Sumy Well,00:02:47
in Kharkov, of course, and so on. That00:02:49
is, in principle, I see that the longer00:02:52
the war in Ukraine drags on, the more00:02:54
risks, more instability, more00:02:56
chaos in the world is growing.00:03:00
Well, firstly, President Zelensky00:03:03
immediately expressed support for Israel and00:03:05
when will his visit come? Well, you you know00:03:10
that we don’t talk about visits in advance00:03:11
objectively because it’s safe, that00:03:13
we have a war, a war here, a war there, well, one way00:03:17
or another from one war to another, but we00:03:19
definitely won’t talk about it here, but the president00:03:21
said about it. He said that he is ready to00:03:23
come to Israeli soil. Well, and00:03:26
accordingly, in this way express00:03:27
the maximum volume of Solidarity with the00:03:29
Israeli00:03:30
people. But in fact, in addition to the visit of00:03:35
President Zelensky, because there were well-00:03:37
known disagreements between Israel and00:03:39
Ukraine, Ukraine said that Israel does00:03:41
not support it enough00:03:42
because it is afraid of Russia00:03:45
because it is flirting with Russia.00:03:47
At the same time, Ukraine voted against00:03:50
Israel in the00:03:52
UN as now Booth00:03:55
voting Well, the Ministry of Foreign00:03:58
Affairs will certainly make adjustments,00:03:59
let's look at these adjustments that00:04:01
will be made to the agenda of the decisions00:04:04
that will be taken by vote00:04:07
at the Security Council Well, or at the00:04:09
General Assembly, or rather, and00:04:11
accordingly I think that changes00:04:13
will be included in the types of voting on the00:04:16
part of Ukraine, but I would honestly00:04:18
say that now all global00:04:20
politics is undergoing some kind of00:04:22
transformation, and that is, many are00:04:24
beginning to put emphasis differently and I00:04:27
would still say so yes. Of course, there00:04:28
is a situation, some kind of mutual00:04:30
claims but from the point of view of a global00:04:33
understanding of the global process, both here and the00:04:36
Israelis, in my opinion, everything is00:04:38
synchronized in this regard, that is,00:04:40
it is clear what type of war00:04:42
Ukraine is waging. It is clear what type of war00:04:44
Israel is waging, it is clear who is right, who is wrong,00:04:46
absolutely clear, and so on. By the way, I I00:04:49
understand what the00:04:51
Israeli government is doing. I mean00:04:53
with understanding from the point of view that they needed to00:04:55
take into account the00:04:57
multiple nature of the Middle East. Multiple00:04:59
parameters of a00:05:00
safe plan because Russia was00:05:02
actively working there with both Iran and Syria00:05:04
and, accordingly, actively supported the00:05:06
same We saw Hamas and00:05:08
Lavrov’s meeting with Khanya. Well, that is,00:05:10
these repeated flirtations with each other, I have no00:05:13
doubt that Russia, in a consultative manner,00:05:15
took an absolutely active part in00:05:17
developing a new strategy because I00:05:19
saw Hamas have a completely different00:05:21
strategy, not the same strategies that they00:05:23
used before during the Attack there, well,00:05:24
in my opinion, a year and a half ago there were the00:05:27
same large-scale missile attacks, but00:05:30
the strategies looked different then, now I00:05:32
saw a multi-component strategy where the00:05:34
use of Drones for certain targets,00:05:36
where a large-scale download or reboot,00:05:39
or rather a missile defense system,00:05:41
well, the iron dome, that is, it00:05:43
was needed reload in order to00:05:44
reload with the number of missile Attacks of00:05:46
surrogate missiles, or rather missiles, so00:05:49
that it could be more precisely00:05:50
targeted with drones with high-precision drones the00:05:53
second part I saw the simultaneous00:05:55
entry of the military, essentially let's say00:05:57
special forces, and conditionally Hamas special forces00:06:00
who entered military targets and at00:06:02
the same time, uh the00:06:04
extras that came into the kibbutz were absolutely frenzied. Yes, and00:06:06
accordingly they carried out that00:06:08
massacre there, which was precisely what should have00:06:10
been aimed at, the effect of such inducing00:06:13
Shock, the effect of redistribution of attention, and00:06:16
so on and so forth. That is, I00:06:18
saw this multi-component well, plus a00:06:20
clear understanding of the goals, clear Understanding00:06:22
where and how many what kind of military police00:06:25
are located, respectively, satellite00:06:27
reconnaissance, absolutely voluminous accumulated00:06:30
funds, meaning00:06:32
mechanical means, and methods of transportation,00:06:34
and the same missiles, and so on, well, undoubtedly,00:06:37
Iran’s money is in this, undoubtedly,00:06:39
consultations with Russian instructors, and so on00:06:42
and so forth It seems to me that00:06:44
now all these events both in and in00:06:47
Southern Israel and, accordingly, will allow us to00:06:50
reconsider government00:06:52
positions, and Israel and Ukraine will00:06:54
occupy others with even more weight.00:07:00
Well, yes, this is a reason to reconsider00:07:02
absolutely the relations between the two countries00:07:04
and, accordingly, I have two questions,00:07:06
first, what are from your point of view,00:07:09
Putin’s role in what is happening. I’ll even allow00:07:11
myself to make an important comma because00:07:13
you already said that Hamas was hoping00:07:16
that everyone would turn on and start shouting00:07:19
like just don’t touch the poor00:07:21
civilians in Gaza, and it’s clear that, roughly00:07:25
speaking, the international leftists were turning on,00:07:27
that’s not Putin is a consistent00:07:31
long-term position of the international00:07:33
leftists. And therefore I am in a very00:07:36
difficult position. I think in general, all00:07:38
Observers also still need to understand00:07:41
that Putin, on the one hand, is not all the wiser, and00:07:44
on the other hand, you need to understand that00:07:45
he wants to do a lot of nasty things,00:07:49
respectively. What, from your point of00:07:51
view, besides the fact that he is the00:07:53
obvious beneficiary of everything that is00:07:55
happening, is Putin’s00:07:57
direct role in this process,00:08:00
and now let’s move on to Putin. I’ll just00:08:02
make a reservation, of course, once again00:08:04
Ukraine is emphasized on Israel regarding the00:08:07
voting about which we said will be00:08:09
officially represented by the Ministry of00:08:10
Foreign Affairs and it is more detailed.00:08:12
Of course, it will be able to place00:08:13
accents here, but I once again want you and I to00:08:15
correctly place the points of the00:08:17
nodes here. I think many countries will need to00:08:19
reconsider how they00:08:21
perceived certain events in00:08:23
certain regions of the country, and so on.00:08:25
time demands now, those00:08:27
events require Israel. This is after the00:08:30
African continent. This is the next00:08:31
consequence of incorrect assessments of the war in00:08:34
Ukraine, there were initially incorrect00:08:36
assessments. Now it seems to me that these00:08:37
assessments are beginning to appear more structurally and more00:08:40
comprehensively and, accordingly, it00:08:42
seems to me that we will still achieve both this and00:08:44
this war and the war that begins00:08:47
in the Middle East until a fair00:08:49
ending as for Putin Yes, and as for00:08:51
this disposition, but firstly, I would00:08:54
still note that Russia actively00:08:57
took a consultative part. I am not00:08:58
ready to say that it directly00:09:00
participated there as executors But the00:09:02
fact that it00:09:04
was saturating and that it took part in00:09:06
the development of the strategy is undeniable for me,00:09:08
and in addition, in my opinion, it is00:09:10
also undeniable that Russia made00:09:12
adjustments to the information component of00:09:14
Hamas’s work. Let’s see first,00:09:16
they flaunt these videos and00:09:18
these cruel videos that, well00:09:21
killings of civilians,00:09:23
including these cars that were driving00:09:24
along the roads and00:09:28
people were literally just walking towards them. Well, terrorists, I00:09:30
mean00:09:33
Hamas, they began to clean up all this and00:09:36
began to make a statement that we are00:09:37
classic Russian statements, we are not00:09:39
at war with the civilian population, we are at war00:09:42
only with with military targets we destroy00:09:43
only military legitimate targets00:09:45
I really like this word legitimate00:09:47
because Hamas hardly knows the00:09:49
origin of the etymology of the word legitimate in general00:09:51
and so on That is, we00:09:53
destroy legitimate military targets Well,00:09:55
besides, I really liked this00:09:57
construction if we had not attacked on00:09:59
Israel today or tomorrow Israel00:10:01
would attack and the Gaza Strip Well, that is, these00:10:04
two, as it were, information components00:10:06
that suddenly began to appear on the second00:10:08
and third days when it was clear This is the00:10:10
shocking influence of the video, the unlimited00:10:13
video of the murder of the civilian population Well,00:10:16
accordingly, this is clear to me00:10:18
symbolized that Russian00:10:20
consultants of the information plan are also00:10:22
present there. Well, the propaganda00:10:23
plan now, as for this one, yes,00:10:27
definitely not that. I just want to00:10:30
clarify here. But this, Frankly speaking, is00:10:34
a little strange because I would say,00:10:37
firstly, Putin has always learned from Hamas,00:10:40
this is exactly and this is such a characteristic00:10:44
behavior of Hamas, such a00:10:46
characteristic behavior in general, and before that, the00:10:48
organization of the unification of00:10:50
Palestine since 1960, it was Putin who00:10:54
borrowed all this, these are such00:10:56
standard propaganda techniques that, to be00:10:58
honest,00:10:59
with all the hostility towards Russian00:11:01
propagandists who, by the way, are now00:11:03
carrying something from the screens in the style of00:11:05
the seventies Well, to say that00:11:10
they advise Hamas Well, how can I00:11:13
tell you But Sinn who at the very00:11:17
beginning who tells us all this time is00:11:20
trying to downplay00:11:24
what Hamas did and00:11:27
tells the00:11:29
number of propagandists there are some00:11:31
Harvard students who00:11:34
signed support for Palestine BLM00:11:37
which came out in support of Palestine A00:11:40
gigantic number of these00:11:42
demonstrations in support of Palestine and all00:11:44
these people say like, no, these are all00:11:46
Israeli fakes and Hamas only shot00:11:49
at the military, but honestly, in all this,00:11:51
seeing the hand of Moscow, in my opinion, is00:11:57
a little bit the hand of Moscow, we are now just00:12:00
Let's analyze a specific case and a change in00:12:02
behavior model, a rapid change in00:12:04
behavior model, that is, look at the first00:12:05
day, the first day, flaunting goes00:12:08
the other way around, they thought that this needed to be00:12:10
scaled up, I mean Hamas believed00:12:12
that this needed to be scaled up. Well, that is,00:12:13
these are these scenes of horror, scenes of00:12:15
murder, hostage-taking, this one driving00:12:19
with the corpses of military personnel, traveling around the00:12:23
Gaza Strip, driving with a girl, well, with a German woman,00:12:27
as it turned out a little later, AE Shanay Luk and,00:12:30
accordingly, all this then happened. Quickly,00:12:32
you understand, look when it’s00:12:35
just psychology of behavior. That is,00:12:38
when you went into a rage And when you behave this00:12:40
way and during the first00:12:42
24 hours, trying to evoke00:12:45
certain emotions that we are now going to00:12:47
overwhelm Israel, but you can’t clean00:12:50
everything up very quickly and very quickly,00:12:51
someone should come from the country to00:12:53
say Look, this is harming you, you need to00:12:55
rebuild it differently, that is, roughly speaking00:12:57
there elder younger brother It doesn’t matter who But00:13:00
someone from the outside has to intervene and00:13:02
stop This feeling of00:13:04
psychological euphoria, that is, the kind of00:13:06
internal euphoria that you00:13:07
experience Because you can00:13:09
show all this, so I have no doubt00:13:12
Well, assessing how the structure of propaganda00:13:14
was built in this in the case of a00:13:15
three-day event, well, after Black Saturday,00:13:17
of course, how the next 3 days00:13:19
developed means. It’s obvious to me that00:13:21
someone from the outside said, look, this has00:13:23
a negative effect; on the contrary, it00:13:25
provokes a sharp increase in aggression00:13:27
towards the boor and, accordingly, we00:13:29
will not be able to develop the part that00:13:31
you are talking about now So that00:13:33
these about Palestinian demonstrations begin to go out in the world00:13:36
like Why did you remove the water,00:13:38
why did you turn off the lights, and so00:13:40
on and so forth, so once again00:13:41
this is not about the hand of Moscow as a00:13:43
fundamental player, here about the hand of00:13:46
specific propagandists who00:13:48
said that for the further escalation of00:13:51
further information escalation,00:13:53
it is necessary00:13:55
to change the picture by 180° and, in fact,00:13:58
since it was impossible to prepare something else,00:14:00
they were simply00:14:05
tracing the filming of what is Ghast or00:14:09
Irpen, what is a Russian soldier in general00:14:11
When he enters Ukraine, he is there with flowers,00:14:13
everyone greets him and he just00:14:15
asks for a mug of milk and nothing more of that and so00:14:17
on, so I saw an exact tracing of00:14:20
this very lightning-fast restructuring of the00:14:22
information paradigm, it is clear that this00:14:24
could only be done when entering00:14:26
from the outside, then we move from the point of view of00:14:32
just simply Mikhail I just wanted00:14:34
to tell you that this was done very often by00:14:37
previous terrorists And00:14:43
Hamas said that at the Hey disco there00:14:46
were only military men. This is a very00:14:48
characteristic modus opera for them. I say that00:14:50
Putin studied with them, well, no matter, I understood, they00:14:57
went into a rage and thought the opposite, I00:15:01
agree that they used to say00:15:02
that we kill only military men and so on00:15:04
further this is clear, I’m now talking about a00:15:06
specific situation on October 7. So they00:15:08
thought, look, they developed an entire00:15:11
large program, consultatively00:15:12
developed it there, conditionally launched it, it00:15:15
was synchronized with many active00:15:18
actions,00:15:24
diversity, to shock many00:15:27
public opinions, and accordingly, for00:15:29
this purpose, during the first 24 hours, they00:15:31
played this record as much as possible then00:15:33
exactly 24 hours later, literally, as00:15:35
if by magic, another00:15:39
record begins in which I00:15:40
recognize absolutely identically the statement that00:15:46
Israel should have attacked the day before. Well, more precisely, a day later, that is,00:15:49
Hamas attacked. And a day later, if Hamas had00:15:51
not attacked, it should have Israel's attack on00:15:53
Hamas and so on And everything else00:15:55
is derivative in order to00:15:57
play in another story,00:16:00
like we are not the authors of the war, but the authors of00:16:03
the war - it is certainly Israel that is the author of00:16:05
the war who deserved what we did00:16:08
and the civilian population there did not suffer,00:16:10
all of this is staged fakes, all of this00:16:12
was filmed again in Hollywood, or it was already00:16:13
filmed there on their00:16:15
propaganda platforms. That is, I00:16:17
want us to record this, not00:16:19
just that Hamas cannot say this or00:16:21
can speak, namely,00:16:24
Russia’s participation or complicity in In this case, it’s00:16:26
obvious to me further. Besides that00:16:29
Putin is the undisputed beneficiary of00:16:31
this instability, he00:16:32
first tried to ruin the African Continent a little,00:16:35
but this is not except, let’s say,00:16:37
France, it didn’t get such a big00:16:40
resonance, these coups in Mali, the00:16:43
same events in the South, or in Sudan in00:16:45
general, let's say the coups in00:16:48
Central Africa in other countries did00:16:51
not receive such a big resonance and,00:16:53
accordingly, did not in any way distract the attention of the00:16:55
main pro-Ing group,00:16:57
meaning those countries that are pressing Ukraine with00:16:59
weapons from actually paying attention to00:17:01
what is happening in Ukraine and then he00:17:04
needs was to look for some other00:17:06
stories, here is the history of the Middle East, which is00:17:08
always an explosive story, where,00:17:10
moreover, there are absolutely two countries that00:17:14
will fit into the Russian scenario in any case:00:17:15
Iran and Syria, which00:17:18
will also provoke there, will00:17:20
make appropriate statements, will00:17:22
participate in multilateral00:17:23
negotiation platforms different and so00:17:25
on That is, we get instability,00:17:27
we get, moreover, regional00:17:29
instability, look, he needed an00:17:31
extensive e excess, a large incident once00:17:34
again emphasizes this type of shocking00:17:37
when there are more than a thousand civilian00:17:38
population, even there there are already more than 1,30000:17:41
as far as Yes, I know According to the latest figures of the00:17:43
civilian population was literally00:17:45
cut out because it immediately00:17:48
clogged the front pages of newspapers. Well, that is,00:17:51
almost all media platforms00:17:53
start only about this. Well, you remember00:17:55
how the war began in Ukraine, exactly the00:17:56
same process, that is, immediately the front00:17:58
page is 90% of the political attention to00:18:02
this, all the political elites they00:18:04
immediately begin to draw00:18:06
long-lasting conclusions, let’s say,00:18:08
that this war in the Middle East can00:18:10
grow there into something very global00:18:12
and, accordingly, it is necessary to spend on this00:18:14
also an analytical resource which, in00:18:16
my opinion, is not enough to00:18:18
correctly assess the war in Ukraine, which is already00:18:20
in short supply We have talked more than once00:18:22
about the shortage of analytical00:18:24
resources, which accordingly requires00:18:26
internal discussions among the political elites,00:18:29
that is, can we00:18:33
accompany two wars at once as supports, and so on and so forth?00:18:40
global00:18:42
agenda as a person who00:18:45
should not be responsible for the war himself, but can00:18:47
give an opinion on another war as he00:18:49
likes yes We are ready to participate somewhere00:18:51
We are ready we believe that the solution to the00:18:54
problem is to return to the00:18:56
resolution he knows very well about the creation of a Palestinian00:18:58
state that00:19:00
Hamas is not interested in creating00:19:02
any Palestinian state and so00:19:04
on, that’s not why all this is actually00:19:06
functioning there today. Well, Putin00:19:08
is talking and thus Putin is again00:19:10
saying that I am ready to return to the00:19:11
global chessboard and play a00:19:14
different role, let’s talk about the war in00:19:16
Ukraine should talk less, we have00:19:17
risks, let me also participate in these risks one way00:19:19
or another because I00:19:21
can come to an agreement with them. We have00:19:24
relations with Iran, we can00:19:25
control Syria there, let’s return it to the00:19:28
global game. I think everything here is00:19:30
very obvious obviously and in principle this is, by00:19:33
the way, a tragic story if00:19:35
they think that Putin is the00:19:37
link that can be used to00:19:39
solve something or exchange something for00:19:42
something Yes, there is the Middle East, Ukraine,00:19:44
Eastern Europe and so on, but this00:19:46
will lead to globalization of the tragedy00:19:48
because, in fact, I once again emphasize the00:19:51
lack of analytical capabilities does not00:19:52
allow us to understand that the first reason for00:19:54
everything is precisely Putin. Well, that is,00:19:56
his desire, his inability to00:19:59
voluntarily leave the war not on his own00:20:01
terms. Uh-huh. Well, look just00:20:05
about the creation of the Palestinian00:20:07
state, I absolutely agree with you00:20:09
that the idea of creating a Palestinian00:20:12
state is Dead in the Water, it is00:20:14
absolutely impracticable, but simply00:20:17
because from the point of view of Hamas, the one who00:20:20
talks about the creation of a Palestinian00:20:21
state must understand that this00:20:23
translates as the destruction of Israel,00:20:26
the destruction of every Jew living in00:20:29
this territory And if he doesn’t00:20:31
agree, he’s not inclined to compromise and in fact this is exactly00:20:33
the position of Hamas,00:20:35
so when Putin talks about the creation of a00:20:38
Palestinian state, he00:20:40
actually voices a position that00:20:42
is on the side of Hamas. But why am I00:20:45
asking this because as far as I00:20:46
understand, those resolutions that00:20:48
Ukraine voted at the UN, correct me,00:20:53
they also just related to the creation of a00:20:55
Palestinian state and like Ukraine is very00:20:58
well, this international00:21:00
bureaucracy is very widespread, this00:21:02
approach Let’s take all the good against00:21:04
all the bad. And what doesn’t work out? It’s not00:21:07
our fault, it’s Israel there that -I00:21:09
didn’t finish it And so correct me if I’m00:21:12
not mistaken, the stumbling block was00:21:14
precisely that Israel00:21:17
was required to return some territories and00:21:19
create this Palestinian state00:21:21
and Ukraine voted for these resolutions00:21:24
or I did something Because I I didn’t00:21:27
check I just vaguely remember Come on00:21:30
Well, it will be necessary to really make clear clarifications00:21:32
Ukraine voted in the00:21:34
paradigm of European pan-European00:21:36
votes let me00:21:39
put the emphasis here more precisely look in my opinion00:21:41
this war has raised a full-scale00:21:43
invasion in Ukraine raised the question of the00:21:45
actual subjectivity of Ukraine00:21:46
when it should really evaluate00:21:48
one or another of its foreign policy00:21:50
activities is more fair, more00:21:52
comprehensive, what will be done and is already00:21:54
being done, that is, Ukraine is00:21:55
re-evaluating many things that00:21:58
we inherited from the early state,00:22:00
or rather from the state that was00:22:02
built on the collapse of the USSR and so00:22:05
on, that is, rethinking there will be I have already00:22:07
said this. Further, of course, one or00:22:09
another,00:22:10
let’s say, the resolutions that00:22:13
Ukraine voted for. The Ministry of00:22:14
Foreign Affairs will analyze00:22:15
extensively, will consult extensively,00:22:17
I think that the positions00:22:20
of many countries will be revised in relation to what00:22:22
you vote at the UN Assembly at the00:22:25
UN General Assembly and so on, and00:22:27
accordingly there will be other protocols already issued00:22:29
How Ukraine should vote00:22:30
and so on, but again00:22:32
I emphasize again This is not my question now, this is a00:22:34
question of extensive analysis that will be00:22:37
done by specialists from the Ministry of00:22:38
Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Well, or the President00:22:41
of Ukraine will give appropriate00:22:43
recommendations like we What we do next00:22:45
depends on the assessment of what00:22:48
actually voted, how they voted,00:22:50
and so on. The third very important question00:22:52
seems to me that this conflict in the00:22:54
Middle East is a very clear conflict00:22:56
where MAZ essentially showed the essence of the fact00:23:00
that they are not going00:23:02
to agree on any then compromise00:23:04
conditions of living together, but they will00:23:06
simply periodically accumulate resources,00:23:08
slaughter the civilian population, do00:23:10
this on the largest possible scale, and so00:23:12
on, and will constantly provoke00:23:14
Israel; it will still require not00:23:16
these weak-willed decisions, but let’s00:23:18
just put the problem aside. Let’s adopt a00:23:21
resolution that will be implemented It’s impossible and00:23:23
we’ll just postpone the decision in this way; by the way, this also00:23:24
applied to Ukraine. Let’s00:23:26
pretend after 14 that00:23:28
the problem of Crimea doesn’t exist. Well, we didn’t00:23:31
notice the annexation of Crimea, we didn’t notice00:23:33
what was happening in the Donbass. We don’t see00:23:35
what criminal enclaves are, and00:23:37
accordingly of course, this problem will00:23:38
either be solved there someday or will not00:23:41
be solved but will simply be transferred. It00:23:43
seems to me that many countries00:23:44
will have to rethink that the pending00:23:47
unresolved issue and in Israel, well, I00:23:51
mean in the territory of Israel in the00:23:52
territory of Gaza there has always been a deferred00:23:55
unresolved issue of it it is necessary to decide,00:23:57
no matter how painful it may sound, but00:23:59
I emphasize once again in order for the00:24:02
country to officially accept this or that position,00:24:05
appropriate work must be carried out, consultations with00:24:06
partners, not only with Israel but also with a00:24:08
number of other countries, this will be00:24:09
done by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs00:24:11
after that00:24:12
appropriate corrections and conclusions will be made, and so00:24:15
on, I emphasize once again, I personally00:24:17
believe that the war in Ukraine provides an00:24:20
opportunity for the global political00:24:21
elite, well, we are talking about a mature00:24:23
political elite, and so on, to00:24:24
rethink a lot of and let’s say those00:24:27
issues00:24:28
that are periodically updated00:24:30
conflict issues But which did not00:24:31
receive solutions and which gradually00:24:34
accumulated, that is, as if aggression was00:24:36
always accumulating within these conflicts.00:24:38
One of these issues00:24:40
that requires a systemic00:24:41
rethinking and, accordingly, a different00:24:44
approach is certainly the issue regarding the00:24:46
resolution from now on, in my opinion, or from this00:24:48
year, on the creation of two00:24:51
states, I mean Israel and00:24:54
Palestine, that from your point of view it is necessary to00:24:58
cut off gas00:25:00
Israel is not ready to give recommendations I00:25:02
think that Israel itself will make a decision, I00:25:04
still belong to the power structures of00:25:07
another country And I wouldn’t want to00:25:09
interfere with my advice where00:25:13
mine jurisdiction, to put it mildly, definitely does not00:25:16
extend No, I can even00:25:18
clarify Why am I asking this question00:25:21
because of course, well, Ukraine on the one00:25:25
hand, of course, can give Israel00:25:28
weapons because, firstly, Israel has00:25:30
enough of its own And secondly, Ukraine00:25:33
clearly has others at this moment tasks But there is00:25:36
one thing that Ukraine00:25:38
can really help Israel very much00:25:40
because Israel faces, first of00:25:43
all, powerful criticism from the left, it00:25:47
faces all these CNs, that00:25:50
is,00:25:51
its which00:25:56
otm00:25:58
it faces the left eshm, which00:26:03
always says that as soon as the Wolfhound00:26:09
begins to give the cannibal's answer is the left00:26:14
elish, all these demonstrations that we00:26:17
saw were Harvard students who00:26:19
signed a letter in defense of Palestine and00:26:22
so on, they all immediately start00:26:24
talking about the bombing of casualties among the00:26:27
residents and absolutely Well, somehow that's00:26:32
because they understand that they cannot00:26:34
force cannibals have nothing to do, but they00:26:36
can force00:26:37
wolfhounds and civilized people to do a lot, and00:26:40
here the support of Ukraine00:26:43
will really be very important for Israel; it will be able to00:26:47
put pressure on public opinion. That’s why00:26:50
I’m00:26:51
asking, well, in my opinion, the President of Ukraine00:26:54
has already shown Solidarity with the Israeli00:26:56
people, this is important in -secondly, he constantly00:26:59
talks about this During all this00:27:00
time, that the escalation continues in00:27:03
Israel and, accordingly, the position of Ukraine is00:27:05
clearly important; secondly, I00:27:08
emphasize once again that it is incorrect for me to00:27:09
give advice on how to act, but I00:27:11
will allow myself to just look from the outside,00:27:12
which means they will have to endure. Well that00:27:15
is, all these attacks from the global00:27:18
media and so on And this is normal00:27:20
because Ukraine Also periodically comes00:27:22
under pressure You are conducting00:27:24
a counter-offensive poorly But maybe it’s still00:27:26
possible with Russia there it’s not so scary they’ll00:27:28
cut you out Well, they’ll cut you out a little Well,00:27:30
you can exchange land not Doren,00:27:33
let’s allow your children, and so on. We00:27:35
also see this, we read it, and so on. Everything00:27:37
that concerns Ukraine, so it seems to me00:27:38
that Israel will have to endure, and here the00:27:41
second Aspect is to go out and very constantly00:27:44
repeat the same things. Well, that is,00:27:46
show footage of violence show00:27:48
footage of what was happening in00:27:50
Southern Israel show Why it is00:27:52
impossible to agree to give a00:27:53
chronology of events Well, relatively speaking, the00:27:55
chronology of events is not only starting on00:27:59
October 7, but also all statements and so on.00:28:01
That is, constantly answering truthfully00:28:03
all Difficult questions, that is, conducting00:28:05
Counter-Propaganda, by the way, to what extent I know00:28:07
today in Israel Mrs.00:28:10
Minister of Propaganda00:28:12
Ardoni was fired. Well, that is, as far as I understand. That00:28:15
is, precisely because they did not00:28:17
work very effectively on the external track on00:28:19
external media platforms. Yes,00:28:21
the Ministry of Propaganda, that is, not00:28:23
since October 7, they did not00:28:26
actively declare their position there did not explain his00:28:28
actions And here you absolutely agree with you00:28:30
right Correctly Because if on the00:28:32
seventh of October everyone there was in shock, on the00:28:34
eighth too Well, that is, we saw these00:28:36
horrifying footage of entering the kibbutzim Yes, where00:28:39
children are killed right in their cribs Well, that’s00:28:41
all we saw burned corpses and so00:28:43
on and so forth at that moment there seemed to00:28:45
be such a pause. When it was necessary to00:28:47
say that these are consequences and then00:28:50
give a more detailed explanation of why00:28:53
this is a consequence of an incorrect00:28:55
interpretation of Hamas’s actions, let’s00:28:57
say yes, well, for 10 years there and00:28:59
so on. It seems to me that Israel00:29:01
is moving along the path of updating the team that00:29:04
will explain positions in foreign markets00:29:06
and you just need to endure it and you00:29:09
will need to steadily take your00:29:11
position. I don’t think that Israel needs it.00:29:13
Again, it’s incorrect to00:29:15
say this again because I don’t give advice, but I’ll00:29:17
just say my own opinion It seems to me that00:29:19
you can’t go to Minsk, for example, in Ukraine, and00:29:22
you can’t go to Minsk, I mean, you ca00:29:24
n’t sign an agreement, you can’t go to Oslo,00:29:25
sign an agreement for Israel, yes. Well, that is, that’s how00:29:27
I see it. That is,00:29:29
when you again think that you are the most00:29:32
cunning, I’m not talking about it now Israel is not about00:29:34
Ukraine simply and you think that you are with a00:29:36
cannibal As you said, conclude some kind of00:29:39
agreement that he is not going to00:29:41
fulfill from the very beginning, you understand this The00:29:44
cannibal understands this, the mediators standing nearby00:29:47
understand this, but it is naive00:29:49
to expect that in the end you will00:29:51
really get a solution to the most difficult00:29:53
crisis correctly Ukraine,00:29:54
unfortunately, went to the00:29:57
signing of the Minsk agreements in 2016, which00:29:58
led to Putin’s feeling of the opportunity to00:30:01
completely take Ukraine away, that00:30:03
is, to completely immerse it in blood and00:30:05
carry out certain genocidal rituals there.00:30:07
Well, that is, I will directly call it00:30:09
reducing the population by several00:30:10
million destroying it and then saying,00:30:13
Now this is the correct Ukraine,00:30:15
which will look like Sharomyzhkin’s trousers there,00:30:24
cultural process, and so00:30:26
on and so forth.00:30:27
This is what the desire to simply00:30:30
answer the most difficult question or00:30:33
break under pressure leads to. Well, like00:30:35
a compromise cove who say so, you00:30:37
will make a compromise here in my opinion,00:30:39
these are the conclusions that Israel needs to draw from the00:30:41
signed agreements that they00:30:43
previously signed. Ukraine needs to draw the00:30:45
appropriate ones, you know. These are good00:30:48
questions, that is, but because we are, after all,00:30:51
really similar in some ways. Yes,00:30:54
I say yes again. Of course, Israel is already alive.00:30:57
there for decades in a state of war and00:30:59
after the seventy-third year in a00:31:00
state of war, and indeed they00:31:02
have a different type of army and,00:31:04
accordingly, opponents who are around00:31:07
Israel - These are still a different type of00:31:09
opponents than what we have, for example, on00:31:11
our Eastern border, but in some ways they are00:31:13
similar are similar in that the unfinished00:31:17
difficult stories that lead to the00:31:20
signing of bad final00:31:22
agreements will ultimately00:31:24
provoke much more tragedies00:31:26
consequences le ROE00:31:29
consequences PAS called on a00:31:32
member state of the Council of Europe to recognize Vladimir00:31:34
Putin as an illegitimate president after00:31:36
twenty years and turn all00:31:39
contacts with them with him except00:31:42
humanitarian But how do you evaluate00:31:46
the resolution of the00:31:47
village very positively? I generally think that00:31:51
legal fixations of certain00:31:52
statuses, even if they don’t00:31:54
work now, but they are, firstly, symbolic and00:31:57
secondly, they clearly change the feeling among the00:32:00
global Elites of what Russia is and00:32:02
what Putin is specifically yes In this00:32:04
case, but also In addition, I hope that00:32:07
this decision will entail the00:32:08
following decisions. Which But if you00:32:11
admit that Russia is not a00:32:14
Democratic country and, accordingly, there is00:32:16
a dictatorship there and, accordingly, Putin00:32:19
is no longer a legitimate president there after March00:32:21
2024 then I00:32:24
hope that this will00:32:25
indeed entail a restriction in certain00:32:27
official contacts; recommendations, to put it mildly, of00:32:30
such a mandatory plan; the00:32:32
recommendation of a mandatory plan sounds,00:32:34
of course, a little sarcastic, but00:32:36
nevertheless, for companies with European white00:32:38
jurisdiction. Guys, let’s00:32:39
stop working in the market on this00:32:41
because this market is needed only00:32:43
for fundraising through your00:32:45
taxes to take this money from you in00:32:48
order to then invest this00:32:49
money in the murder of citizens of another country00:32:51
or in the murder of citizens of your own country00:32:53
because this is a classic dictatorship and00:32:55
I hope that this is how it will behave00:32:57
- a legal dialogue with these00:32:59
companies because00:33:01
today the number of companies that00:33:02
operate in the consumer market in00:33:03
Russia is quite large, I mean white00:33:05
companies These are not the companies that00:33:07
make dual-use products there.00:33:08
Clearly, they are high-tech00:33:10
products, these are ordinary00:33:12
food manufacturers, there are clothes and so on. further,00:33:14
but nevertheless, nevertheless, this is money,00:33:16
and you and I know very well that today the00:33:18
military budget of Russia is about 35%, this is00:33:21
actually the military budget, or rather the military00:33:23
budget is 35% of the total budget. It00:33:27
seems to me that this is a very important00:33:28
value, this indicates a change,00:33:31
see the decision ISS about a year ago00:33:34
But these are the constant emerging decisions of00:33:38
certain international Well, in this00:33:39
case, we are talking mainly about00:33:40
European collective bodies00:33:43
that make certain decisions. In00:33:45
addition, we see a public statement00:33:48
or resolutions, for example, by the same Mr.00:33:50
Stoltenberg, which clearly states00:33:52
Ukraine will undoubtedly become an integral00:33:54
part of the Alliance and so on, all this00:33:57
speaks to me about an important component,00:33:59
not about specific decisions here and00:34:01
now, but speaks of a slow but00:34:04
sure change in the position of the European00:34:07
Elites who are moving away from such direct scythes00:34:11
or corrupt support for Russia,00:34:14
moving into concrete hostility Russia in00:34:17
this form as a concept that00:34:19
exists and which generates risks,00:34:21
in my opinion it all looks very positive,00:34:24
and Avdiivka is00:34:27
all well, that is, one could00:34:30
expect the final sport of the Ukrainian00:34:33
troops who will try to take Takmak00:34:36
before the winter thaw begins00:34:39
and, in fact, apparently to prevent00:34:42
this as since the Russian troops are going on the00:34:44
offensive near Avdeevka,00:34:46
what is the situation there and what are the chances of the Ukrainian Armed Forces00:34:50
to take this Maka by00:34:53
November, also exchange Well, according to the plans, let me00:34:58
start with the second, according to the plans, we will be online with00:35:01
you00:35:02
based on what we see00:35:04
along the front line about the movement of Ukraine in the00:35:07
same Bakhmut direction or in the00:35:09
same Zaporozhye well, in the max00:35:10
direction in this case, we’ll00:35:12
say this I’m not a very supporter, I think I’ve00:35:14
already said more than once a00:35:15
supporter of proactively00:35:17
reporting on some plans that the00:35:20
General Staff of Ukraine is considering there00:35:22
therefore, offensive operations00:35:24
continue, that is, this is the backdrop00:35:27
Which I will take us back a few weeks00:35:29
or even months ago, remember at00:35:30
one of these Feast events,00:35:33
Putin told Shoigu I insist that you00:35:36
stop there before October 1 stop the00:35:38
offensive of Ukraine Well, remember Yes he so00:35:41
he spoke directly so clearly he says I want00:35:43
you to stop offensive00:35:45
operations and so on. It seems to me that we are00:35:47
now seeing what00:35:49
the General Staff of the Russian Federation was able to give birth to.00:35:51
Well, that is, after all, Let’s not forget00:35:52
that there are people sitting there too00:35:54
those who are engaged in planning So they00:35:57
decided that they would be able to launch a counterattack00:35:59
in the Avdeevka direction because00:36:00
Avdeevka, you know, it is a little protruding00:36:02
forward and so on, and00:36:04
accordingly they concentrated a00:36:06
large amount of reserve resources there, this is the00:36:08
reserve resource that did not need to be brought00:36:10
there from Crimea somewhere Yes, and so on, he00:36:12
came from Donetsk Lugansk and,00:36:14
accordingly, from the mainland of the00:36:16
Russian Federation. So they00:36:18
concentrated and struck, what was00:36:20
happening there, there were stationary00:36:22
battles, they were practically motionless, that is, there were00:36:25
500 m in one direction, then 500 m in the00:36:27
other direction at the same time, there is a large-scale destruction of00:36:32
manpower, I once again emphasize the destruction of manpower there, the death rate, as we call it, has increased two to three times,00:36:36
and, accordingly, the destruction of equipment00:36:38
and, accordingly, But this counterattack00:36:41
really had to draw upon00:36:43
itself a sufficiently large amount of reserves00:36:45
so that the offensive operation of00:36:47
Ukraine on the entire front to the south Yes, well, that00:36:49
is, both the Zaporozhye and Southern directions, and00:36:51
so on, did Russia succeed?00:36:53
Are there heavy battles in Adeka? Yes,00:36:56
starting from the day there, in my opinion, from00:36:59
October 10, extremely heavy battles are going on, very00:37:02
expensive in terms of the equipment used.00:37:06
use of ammunition on a projectile,00:37:08
used and so on Well, let's00:37:10
continue to observe this is a war, a war in00:37:12
volume is very cruel. That is, I have00:37:16
absolutely no doubt that Russia does not00:37:17
set any goals to00:37:19
stop somewhere, that is, either win or00:37:23
lose Well,00:37:25
the caretaker wrote his famous post,00:37:28
I quote in order for us to come to our senses,00:37:30
we need to cut back on the sturgeon, it is clear that00:37:34
in the current state of affairs there can be no talk of any borders of the ninety-first year, but00:37:37
taking into account the fact that under00:37:43
Avdeevka Russia is losing a gigantic00:37:46
amount of strength Yes, this offensive00:37:49
was organized only to disrupt the Ukrainian00:37:52
offensive on Takmak, in fact, the00:37:55
Ukrainian reserves arrived and the Russians began to00:37:57
advance00:37:58
under Avdiivka. But from this00:38:02
point of view, Avdiivka is fulfilling its00:38:06
role and it is quite difficult to imagine00:38:08
that Ukrainian troops will take Takmak00:38:10
in the near00:38:12
future. It is difficult to imagine that00:38:14
the war will last 19 months. It is difficult00:38:16
to imagine that Russia will00:38:18
run hysterically looking for weapons everywhere. It’s hard to00:38:20
imagine that Putin will00:38:21
destroy 18,000 tanks every day and then00:38:23
continue to say that he has already00:38:25
stopped everything and captured everything. You’ll have to00:38:27
imagine that the Russian army is00:38:28
unable to even capture Bakhmut. Well, that00:38:31
is, it captured it, but with destruction, and so on and so forth.00:38:33
you know, I pragmatically look at everything as much00:38:36
as possible with a mathematical00:38:38
calculation, they completely00:38:40
fill a hundred tables here. I always00:38:43
analyze specifically what we have,00:38:45
what Russia has, do we get ours00:38:47
temporarily, this or that weapon that was00:38:49
agreed upon, and if we don’t get00:38:51
it, to what extent? extends the period of this or that00:38:53
work on the front line, and so on. And00:38:55
despite everything that I say is a00:38:58
pessimistic weapon, I am extremely00:39:00
optimistic that Russia00:39:03
is now in a state of spectacular00:39:05
defense in a spectacular defense, of course00:39:08
they still have potential there is also a00:39:10
reserve resource and so on, and of course I have00:39:13
no doubt that we have00:39:14
certain tactical00:39:15
operational-tactical errors, but00:39:17
nevertheless I do not doubt for a minute, taking into00:39:19
account the analysis of the facts that we have, the00:39:22
amount of resources that we have, the00:39:24
Type of psychological readiness of the00:39:26
two armies I have no doubt that there00:39:28
will be a breakthrough in any case and this war will not00:39:31
end permanently where it00:39:33
is today, yes, that is, relatively00:39:35
speaking, Ukraine does not have a single chance of not00:39:37
reaching the border of the ninety-first year,00:39:40
will it be difficult, yes of course Well,00:39:42
I mean, to be honest That's always when00:39:44
they say Why is the00:39:45
offensive operation going so slowly and I say,00:39:47
who are we fighting against? We are00:39:49
fighting a small terrorist group. No, we are00:39:50
fighting a large regular army with a00:39:53
large resource potential with a large00:39:56
stock of accumulated equipment, and Russia has00:39:58
now brought everything here, and so on.00:40:00
accordingly, of course, in order to00:40:01
break through this, it will be necessary to expend a lot of00:40:03
effort, and the second thing I say is when we00:40:05
negotiate with our partners. This is a00:40:07
very important Aspect: we agree on this00:40:09
or that volume of weapons, then it is desirable, of course, for00:40:12
these weapons to arrive there00:40:14
in a week, two to three, taking into00:40:16
account logistics which is rebuilt by00:40:26
50 or 60%, these are the00:40:29
mathematical parameters, bare mathematical00:40:31
parameters that of course lengthen the00:40:33
process of conducting offensive00:40:35
operations, but I emphasize once again, I00:40:38
honestly don’t quite understand why now the00:40:41
pessimist Ukraine won’t work out at ninety-one,00:40:44
look, a specific00:40:48
offensive operation is going on, it will go on00:40:50
exactly as long as the President makes a decision00:40:52
on this Well, the Supreme00:40:55
Commander-in-Chief only makes a00:40:56
decision General Staff00:40:58
Commander-in-Chief Well, I mean00:41:00
Mr. Zelensky Mr. Zaluzhny00:41:02
and, accordingly, the headquarters, respectively,00:41:04
others Ministry of Defense00:41:07
Security Council and so on That is,00:41:09
look, this is a large volume of work00:41:11
that is carried out taking into account the analyzes of00:41:13
incoming data and so on This is what I do00:41:15
n’t really like when someone comes out and00:41:18
says look, well, this is how we looked00:41:19
here, we certainly don’t participate in this directly,00:41:21
we don’t sit on the General00:41:22
Staff, we don’t analyze maps, but we00:41:24
adopted this opinion. Well, or rather,00:41:27
we developed the opinion that we don’t have Ukraine’s00:41:29
potential to reach the borders of the virgins of the first00:41:31
year, I don’t quite understand what00:41:34
this analysis is based on, yes, that is, I00:41:36
understand what the analysis is based on at the headquarters of the00:41:38
Supreme Commander-in-Chief or there in the00:41:41
General Staff, I understand on what00:41:43
substrate they are building what they are analyzing00:41:45
I understand what are negotiation00:41:46
platforms with our partners? I understand00:41:48
the analysis that is done by the00:41:51
chiefs of the Joint Staff and or the00:41:53
expeditionary force there. Well, or the00:41:55
United NATO in Europe, I understand. I do00:41:58
n’t understand. You know this. Today we00:42:00
will reach the ninety-first border;00:42:02
tomorrow we will not reach the borders, and so on, we need to00:42:04
be calm to what the00:42:07
military and political and00:42:10
military leadership of Ukraine is doing directly and,00:42:11
accordingly, wait for the final00:42:13
results. Because there is a main00:42:16
component in this war - This is the00:42:18
consolidated opinion of Ukraine. Well, that00:42:21
is, the Ukrainian society that in00:42:23
this war there is no such00:42:26
compromise option, and00:42:28
accordingly psychologically, taking into account00:42:30
the evil that Russia brings here and00:42:32
every evening 40 drones fly here.00:42:35
Well, this is already a separate technology,00:42:37
that is, this is the so-called re-00:42:39
reboot,00:42:41
renamed into drone defense and so00:42:44
on, then despite everything that evil00:42:46
does then we have decided, or rather00:42:48
the opposite, thanks to all that evil. What00:42:50
Ukraine is doing, the decision has been made in this00:42:52
war to reach a mandatory and00:42:54
fair ending,00:42:57
and what about the criminal case against00:43:00
Arrestovich, there is some well, completely00:43:03
comical00:43:04
reason, they went over his words that he00:43:07
said at the00:43:08
seminar I I’m not a supporter of criminal cases for00:43:11
the words that people say, firstly, and00:43:13
secondly, Arrestovich actually00:43:15
posted the full video of this video lesson, I00:43:18
don’t quite understand the claims there, but00:43:20
again, this is done by the national police, I00:43:22
think the people’s deputy will draw his conclusions, he00:43:24
has the right to appeal,00:43:26
you understand this is a normal procedure for a00:43:27
democratic state, in my00:43:29
opinion, these procedures are absolutely good.00:43:31
That is, when there are doubts about00:43:34
whether you understood correctly what the00:43:36
public person did, what statement he00:43:38
made, accordingly, then comes00:43:40
the statement, then comes the Check, then00:43:41
comes the proper conclusions, let’s wait for the conclusions, we’ll00:43:43
see these conclusions, then we can00:43:45
discuss it I I emphasize again that I didn’t see, let’s00:43:48
say, a problem with this because00:43:50
when the full version already exists, yes, that is,00:43:51
accordingly, it gives a different00:43:53
idea of this episode, but00:43:54
nevertheless, once again, if anyone has any00:43:56
doubts about how to interpret this, then00:43:58
please check the00:44:00
linguistic examination Expertise and so on00:44:02
after that, the conclusions of the law enforcement00:44:03
agency and I don’t see a problem here. Well, I00:44:06
mean, it seems to me that this is a very00:44:07
civilized procedure.00:44:11
Yes, that means returning to Putin00:44:14
because Putin here is sharp, but not that it00:44:17
seems to me that he tried to change his00:44:19
opinion because at first he talked00:44:21
about the need for a Palestinian00:44:22
state and then today he still00:44:25
said that Israel was brutally attacked00:44:28
and then he said something about the00:44:29
Leningrad00:44:31
blockade, so how much do you think he00:44:34
managed to change at the turn and what is it00:44:39
connected with, probably due to the pressure from the00:44:42
environment that said that This kind of00:44:44
frontal support for a terrorist00:44:46
organization burns us too much. Well, it burns00:44:49
everything that we are planning here, these are some things behind the scenes,00:44:52
that is,00:44:53
we are too demonstratively showing that we are not00:44:56
one of those countries that can00:45:00
continue to play some role in global politics because obviously00:45:01
they support the undoubted flayers. Well, I00:45:03
mean terrorists and so on and so forth,00:45:05
and he tried, of course, to00:45:07
catch, yes, I heard this00:45:10
speech from the point of view that, well, the00:45:14
state of Israel has the right to a00:45:15
cruel response. Well, it seems to me that he is overly00:45:17
cruel anyway. Yes,00:45:19
he made these reservations. Why Because the person00:45:20
is in such a state of mind, I00:45:22
have repeatedly said, that is, it seemed to him, you00:45:25
know, a great specialist in attacks00:45:29
exclusively on military targets, yes,00:45:32
yes, but here is a very important question, he00:45:34
told me a little about something else. Yes, but00:45:37
Putin, when he started a full-scale00:45:39
invasion, he thought that he will be able to00:45:41
throw off the mask and this is his true00:45:44
inside where we will wet in the toilet she00:45:47
drowned we will kill them there and so on That00:45:50
is, he will be able to call a spade a spade00:45:52
so boorish with obscenities with obscenities00:45:54
like that Well, such a boundless00:45:56
tone Well, what a problem Guys00:45:59
we will cut you there we will be this, I00:46:01
thought that he expected E what he will get from the00:46:05
moment of the full-scale invasion of the00:46:07
seizure of Ukraine, then he will be like this,00:46:10
you know, a godfather who will allow00:46:11
himself to say in global politics what00:46:14
few people can allow Well, that is, And00:46:15
so he wanted it from the inside got it already and00:46:18
now he can’t stop, that is,00:46:20
from time to time this let’s say00:46:22
duality of his nature00:46:23
breaks through. That is, he wants to say he00:46:25
knows,00:46:26
he even says Well, what Israel deserved, that it’s00:46:29
good that there are only military00:46:31
objects that were destroyed in the form of a kibu of the civilian00:46:33
population, see how possible00:46:35
cut off heads, not only we cut off, but he00:46:37
also cuts off, but he was told that this is very00:46:39
bad for the remnants of those opportunities00:46:43
that we have in the global arena,00:46:44
let’s somehow sksha And00:46:47
look, he from his gut in a very screaming00:46:51
way turned into some kind of So more or less00:46:53
rhetoric that like those are to blame are to blame00:46:56
but they have the right and they have the right and so00:46:58
on Well, he tried00:47:00
to prolapse a little bit00:47:20
[music] they00:47:25
clearly explained that after all this was not possible00:47:27
and it seems to me that it somehow00:47:30
allowed him stay within the00:47:32
framework And look what00:47:35
Israel should do with these international00:47:38
leftists because well, let’s be00:47:41
frank, the whole strategy of Hamas And00:47:44
in fact, in front of it, the PLO was00:47:47
based precisely on00:47:51
hiding behind civilians and, moreover,00:47:54
if before them the00:47:57
maximum was00:47:59
killing the enemy it doesn’t matter whether there are civilian00:48:03
children of women, Hamas in front of them is a00:48:06
unique organization that00:48:08
actually began to maximize the00:48:10
murder of its own citizens in order to then00:48:14
present it to the world and say that the00:48:16
bloody Israeli military did this; I00:48:24
really remember the well-known story there with the00:48:28
murder of Mohammed Al-Dura. This is a00:48:32
terrible story that happened back in the day. in00:48:34
2000,00:48:37
when when00:48:40
they imitated when Palestinian militants00:48:43
Well, accordingly, it wasn’t even Hamas yet,00:48:46
they imitated it in front of an Israeli00:48:49
armed post, they00:48:56
threw stones at it, they tried to cause return fire. When They called it back, including not only throwing stones but also00:48:57
shooting at it. When They called it.00:48:59
return fire, then a French journalist of00:49:01
Palestinian origin who00:49:02
was present said that00:49:05
this Israeli army shot00:49:06
the boy, then it was proven that in00:49:09
fact, apparently, it was the Palestinians themselves who shot him00:49:12
precisely because they fired at the00:49:15
Israeli post and in such cases such00:49:18
cases were always like this cases00:49:20
are standard for Hamas, they are another00:49:23
well-known story when a00:49:27
BBC journalist with the telling name Shahid00:49:29
holds his own murdered daughter in his arms00:49:32
and says that she was killed by an Israeli00:49:34
rocket, while he well understands00:49:36
that she was killed by a Palestinian rocket and00:49:39
which flew in the wrong direction, that is00:49:41
unique Situation when people launch00:49:43
missiles, they don’t even care if they00:49:45
end up in Israel and kill anyone there,00:49:47
or they end up in the Gaza Strip00:49:50
because they go off course and also00:49:52
kill anyone there, because then00:49:54
it will be possible to say that it was the00:49:56
bloody Israeli military that killed them this is the00:49:59
strategy00:50:03
that Putin actually adopted,00:50:05
actually learned a lot from him, learned a lot from them,00:50:08
and it has always00:50:12
worked so far the day after00:50:16
any terrorist attack by the PLO the00:50:18
day after any terrorist attack by00:50:20
Hamas That’s exactly where the Organization of Concerned Nations came into play,00:50:26
Harvard and so on, and the00:50:31
guys said, “Guys, just now, please,00:50:33
how are you in terms of the civilian population,00:50:36
what should Israel do with this world00:50:42
structure of the collective left brain,00:50:45
now I’ll throw in a couple of ideas there, but00:50:48
honestly, Yulia Ledov, you Do you want00:50:50
us to now, in 5 minutes, sketch out a00:50:53
scenario plan of behavior in solving a00:50:56
problem that People are normal people,00:50:58
intelligent people Yes, they have not been able to solve00:51:00
for several decades Well, not bad Yes, I00:51:02
agree This is an interesting problem, look00:51:05
in my opinion, you need to take the path of00:51:08
hiring again, look, I So I see myself00:51:11
hiring several rkon Tor who00:51:13
work in the global sector in the00:51:17
global sector, that is, they are also00:51:18
leftists, accordingly, develop a00:51:20
strategy to bring the leftist discourse00:51:23
inside to a conflict situation, that00:51:26
is, the same arguments against the same00:51:28
arguments and, accordingly, drag in00:51:30
this whole dispute to translate in a different direction,00:51:33
that is, take the strategy of the leftists,00:51:35
build an Anti-Livad strategy, but not a00:51:37
right-wing one, but a leftist slogan, and00:51:40
accordingly scale it through the00:51:42
media that00:51:43
work in these audiences, that is,00:51:45
introduce the discourse into a confusing channel, that is, so00:51:47
that they run in circles00:51:49
catching up with each other in my opinion, this is00:51:51
the only working strategy that00:51:53
can be developed, that is, roughly speaking,00:51:55
do not argue with00:51:58
emotional arguments. That is, when you have00:52:00
constructed pictures, you killed, that00:52:03
is, in fact, even if what00:52:04
you told two episodes is clear, you did not00:52:06
kill, but when you they say, look00:52:08
what an emotion, an animal killed a child, and00:52:11
so on. And you are trying to rationally00:52:13
say No, look, the rockets are blowing, the degree00:52:16
from where they fired, and so on. This does not00:52:18
work emotion against emotions. Well,00:52:20
accordingly, but the emotion should be00:52:21
built by leftists who work in the00:52:24
sector of uh corporate PR and00:52:27
which should be scaled up in the00:52:28
leftist media, then you can probably00:52:31
get some result, that is, at00:52:33
least get a discussion within the00:52:35
Lebanese discussion that will not be00:52:36
rational, it will be emotional, who will00:52:38
overlap whom - emotions are all gone, now we00:52:42
will save everyone from the superhero with this00:52:44
rhetoric, and so on and so forth similar Well,00:52:46
it’s impossible, look, let me00:52:48
say it more seriously, but it’s impossible to find a00:52:50
simple solution if we see with you00:52:52
now in the United States, for example,00:52:54
this leftist drive course and which00:52:55
led to the fact that00:52:58
sometimes the leaders of the left left flank are killed00:53:02
right in the streets because they are being robbed there00:53:04
at the same time Well, that is, when cars are robbed,00:53:05
stores are robbed and so on, this is a00:53:08
difficult story. It seems to me that some kind of00:53:10
line of no return has already been crossed. But00:53:13
these wars in Ukraine, which began a00:53:15
large-scale war, what began00:53:17
in the Middle East, it will probably still00:53:19
force more rationally approach the00:53:21
choice of ways to protect a democratic00:53:25
civilization as one where you can00:53:27
exercise your rights Well, and your00:53:29
Freedoms Yes, to be free but at the same00:53:31
time not to step over this line of00:53:34
collective hate of this or that00:53:36
person if he does not share your00:53:40
positions And what to do with international00:53:42
organizations who finance all this00:53:44
because I think that00:53:46
all this leftist discourse is actually00:53:48
based not on beautiful dreams and not00:53:51
on the fact that leftists do not understand that Black is00:53:53
Black and white - This is white but00:53:55
simply Because if you00:53:57
finance the same The gas sector and then Well,00:54:02
listen there are00:54:05
113,000 UN workers, Mikhail Svetov told me,00:54:08
I was completely shocked00:54:10
113,000 workers, he we all understand00:54:12
that in fact half of them00:54:14
are Hamas operatives and00:54:16
naturally you are interested00:54:19
in the Krones discourse that they are poor,00:54:21
unfortunate people we need to help in every possible way and our00:54:24
legs do00:54:25
not grow from Marxism, but from money,00:54:30
but from any work on the corruption track. And00:54:33
in this case, we see a large,00:54:35
voluminous corruption track; by the way, we have talked about it more than00:54:36
once that many00:54:37
international institutions live precisely on00:54:39
this. Well, that is, they they allocate00:54:41
money somewhere they receive money from Da She Magat the same thing, but00:54:46
of course any corruption00:54:49
track, especially a global one, can00:54:51
only be fought with great transparency00:54:53
when you are not just talking about some emotions,00:54:55
here they are, 113,000 people, half of them are00:54:57
Hamas owls And when00:54:59
really again Let's return to a00:55:01
full-fledged factual investigation into00:55:03
family records of who. How much does the00:55:05
purchase of internal00:55:07
confidential information receive? Who00:55:09
actually works where, what kind of money00:55:11
actually goes there for water supply and00:55:14
sewerage, or the creation of a network of00:55:16
small shops so that there is some kind of00:55:18
employment in the gas sector And00:55:20
who in fact, this money is received and00:55:22
to what extent the investigation, again,00:55:24
placement of this information,00:55:26
respectively, in the media that is read by a00:55:28
certain audience, the one that00:55:30
sponsors these international institutions,00:55:32
again, this is a large volume of work. But00:55:35
if it is not systematically dealt with, well,00:55:37
Africa is not systematically engaged in00:55:38
telling Who influences there at what00:55:41
levels? Well, this topic is not in the global00:55:43
media. Well, it’s not involved in00:55:44
investigations of this type; well, there is no00:55:46
information on how international institutions00:55:48
actually spend the money they receive from00:55:51
donations, to whom they pay it,00:55:53
how this money is spent in one or00:55:55
another of their own countries, and the like00:55:57
there will be investigations, and once again00:55:59
emphasizing, we hire a bunch of00:56:07
PR consultants and get an internal,00:56:10
very pleasant, nice discourse.00:56:12
Who is more honest from the point of view of00:56:15
Livada’s00:56:16
ideology and the last question Full House00:56:20
will China attack00:56:23
Taiwan I think that China is demonstrating a00:56:26
very cautious policy much more more00:56:29
cautious than00:56:32
any other country probably demonstrates, they don’t00:56:34
comment, they don’t give these00:56:36
quick reactions00:56:39
to events. But the war in Ukraine, the war00:56:42
in the Middle East, it’s hard for me00:56:45
to predict what will happen next, it00:56:47
depends. In my opinion, without00:56:48
regard to China. It all depends depends on00:56:50
how long00:56:52
the conflict in Ukraine will continue. Because it is00:56:53
completely digging up the global political00:56:56
space, the global safe00:56:58
space, that is,00:56:59
more and more temptations are arising that while00:57:01
this window of opportunity has opened, when00:57:03
something can be resolved through a forceful instrument,00:57:05
then probably many will00:57:07
use With this, I once again think this00:57:08
has nothing to do with China, because it00:57:09
seems to me that after all, China has now taken00:57:12
such a fairly balanced neutral00:57:14
position, what is this connected with? Possibly with00:57:15
some internal tensions,00:57:17
Perhaps there are some internal00:57:19
economic problems and so on,00:57:21
or vice versa, rethinking its role is00:57:23
not economic,00:57:25
but M, no less, China is extremely cautious and00:57:28
takes such a fairly balanced00:57:30
position, I emphasize once again Well then, this is00:57:33
traditionally the last last question00:57:35
because really a lot00:57:36
depends on how long00:57:38
the war in Ukraine will continue and don’t you00:57:40
think that this sense, Putin is00:57:43
so Well, that is, I don’t know to what extent00:57:45
he directly participated in the00:57:48
Hamas attack, but he is00:57:50
a beneficiary for sure because00:57:52
just before our eyes the war in Ukraine00:57:55
faded into the background00:57:58
Well, this is for a while because00:58:00
they emphasize once again When a new00:58:02
epochal event arises a big dramatic event,00:58:04
it certainly attracts attention because it is precisely because of00:58:06
its novelty that it attracts00:58:08
attention. As for Putin, you are00:58:11
absolutely right, he is extremely interested00:58:13
in the war being endless in00:58:15
Ukraine with various00:58:18
exacerbations and relapses subsiding there and remission And just00:58:21
like in the Middle East so that it does not00:58:22
simmer therefore, he will work behind the scenes in the00:58:24
following way: he will00:58:25
screw up Iran, he will screw up Syria, he00:58:27
will say that look, you need to plant it somewhere, you need to00:58:31
use chemical balut somewhere, and so on.00:58:33
That is, they will now actively00:58:36
engage in shuttle diplomacy behind the scenes so that the degree00:58:38
to raise this tension That is, when00:58:39
someone thinks that in the Middle East it00:58:41
will grow, it is possible if00:58:43
Putin is given the opportunity Chelno there, well, not00:58:45
Putin personally Yes, it is unlikely that he will be there00:58:47
personally Chelno This is understandable, but people of the night to all these00:58:50
different entities there who00:58:52
will tell different cons00:58:54
logical versions to each other in order to00:58:56
drive each other into such a00:58:58
state of aggression, yes, that is, like,00:59:00
they’re there now, they’re going to drain you, come on, you00:59:03
take preventive action, and so00:59:05
on. Wow, yes, it’s certainly possible,00:59:07
I’d do that if I were in his place acted because,00:59:09
in principle, there is no00:59:11
other scenario for Russia And except for a00:59:15
positive scenario for them except How to00:59:16
maintain00:59:18
mandatory escalations both on the territory of00:59:22
Ukraine and on the territory of Well, or on the00:59:25
wider territory of the Middle East Well, in00:59:29
this sense, it seems to me that Putin00:59:30
is acting very irrationally because00:59:32
what he said now about00:59:34
Israel and especially what he said00:59:37
Propaganda testifies to his extreme00:59:40
irrationality because00:59:43
here we come back We have already00:59:46
talked about this, I have also spoken about this more than once, this is a00:59:49
phenomenon of this00:59:50
time if it were an intelligent person,00:59:53
he would have hidden many of his chicks.00:59:56
Propaganda would have been so Soviet00:59:58
monstrous.01:00:00
We are mediators. We will speak here01:00:03
as follows: let’s01:00:05
put everyone at the table and moderate01:00:08
these processes here; they cannot; they01:00:13
depron as much as possible if we are talking about propaganda; they they01:00:15
can’t change their minds they need to01:00:18
sell this Hey Such an insulting type01:00:20
all dogs all Nazis we will slaughter everyone01:00:23
we will kill everyone in this and the Paradox of01:00:25
the moment Why do they behave this way01:00:27
Why programs Russian Propaganda Not01:00:31
monumental because Putin is not01:00:33
monumental he is too primitive01:00:36
for this to understand everything And we are lucky in this,01:00:38
having such an opponent as Putin,01:00:41
unfortunately, unfortunately, many are still not01:00:44
understood. Listen, if he had01:00:47
not gone away, he would not have started a war, so01:00:49
how can I tell you, you are relatively01:00:52
lucky, don’t look, well, I don’t about01:00:55
the war from the point of view of the war, of course, I01:00:57
mean lucky that Putin is exactly like this01:01:00
now, that is, such a non-monumental01:01:02
type, yes, that is, a person who01:01:03
cannot hide his emotions, cannot hide01:01:05
personal hatred, cannot hide his01:01:07
absolute stupidity Yes, historical01:01:09
stupidity, including stupidity and everything that is01:01:11
on his mind he holds on his tongue As if like an01:01:13
ordinary person Well, we know, yes Who are we talking about and01:01:15
so on, there are also some subjects01:01:18
who are not involved in propaganda but01:01:20
act as propagandists like01:01:22
Lukashenko Medvedev and so on, who are01:01:24
also everything And Naryshkin also I forgot the blunder, everything01:01:27
in a row, and so on. Well, this just01:01:30
really doesn’t allow us to01:01:32
say that they will play in a01:01:34
subtly01:01:36
multidimensional way, what needs to be feared there, and01:01:38
so on. That’s why I’m surprised. Why01:01:40
our partners still haven’t understood.01:01:42
Look who the opponent is, yes. let's01:01:45
finish with this And how to finish 1 2T01:01:48
three decisions there are sanctions as we01:01:51
say there legal statuses Better01:01:53
weapons there are better Yes in large quantities and so01:01:56
on blocking Russia's ability to01:01:58
be present in international01:01:59
institutions in international platforms to01:02:01
conduct there using these platforms to conduct01:02:03
some kind of intermediary missions and so01:02:06
on and so forth there are tools01:02:08
they just need to be used nuno So far,01:02:10
unfortunately, these tools are not used to the same extent Let's01:02:12
see further we will01:02:14
explain this, no offense to you, listen I01:02:17
understand that this is the fourth and last01:02:19
question, but this is honestly the last01:02:21
question, but Latynina is famous that01:02:23
he has a postscript and a fourth01:02:26
postscript. Don’t you be offended that01:02:29
Ukraine’s allies are squeezing out so much, hour01:02:33
by hour, teaspoonfuls of pipette01:02:35
supplies And here Israel hasn’t even attacked Hezbollah yet01:02:39
And the second fleet is already01:02:42
approaching where is this fleet in the Mediterranean01:02:47
Sea, it’s not a question of offense, it’s a question01:02:50
of rationality thinking and the question of victims01:02:52
who have already paid in the war against01:02:55
Russia and Ukraine. Well, that is, families01:02:57
who have lost their loved ones in the hope01:02:59
that there are partners behind them who01:03:02
see all this and therefore will01:03:03
react quickly. This causes01:03:06
certain emotional outbursts01:03:07
because, well, when you see that people01:03:09
pay the highest price And you are not ready to01:03:11
kneel and still you continue to01:03:13
play some other game Well, don’t01:03:15
play the game but behave somehow01:03:17
conservatively, too conservatively, it’s01:03:20
really emotionally loaded as01:03:23
for Israel Well, let’s still be01:03:25
objective approach Israel There are01:03:28
specific security agreements01:03:30
signed much earlier Yes, which should01:03:33
be prioritized01:03:39
What type of weapons What should the01:03:43
United States fleet do there third fourth01:03:45
sixth and so on where they should be01:03:47
located Should they intervene01:03:49
directly should they not interfere01:03:51
and so on it’s all spelled out within the01:03:52
framework the same security guarantees Koch01:03:54
now says Ukraine only this has already been01:03:57
prescribed long ago for Israel, taking into account the01:03:59
war of the third year, and so on,01:04:02
Ukraine will do this now, will01:04:03
sign and of course the level of01:04:05
security of Ukraine there in 5 years,01:04:07
in 10 years will also be at a different level and01:04:10
accordingly and our partners will01:04:12
behave differently, and so on, the01:04:13
global space is now being rebuilt.01:04:15
We’ve already looked at this. Well, what is the01:04:18
problem of this war, one of the problems? We do01:04:19
n’t take all the other problems there;01:04:21
we take one of the key problems of this01:04:23
war is that for a long time01:04:25
post-Soviet countries, including Ukraine,01:04:27
were considered exclusively01:04:28
a territory controlled by the influence of the Russian01:04:31
Federation. I mean European01:04:32
countries, that is, Eastern Europe. Yes,01:04:35
when it left Seva, it left the01:04:37
Warsaw Pact, it calmly01:04:39
moved into a single European01:04:42
space, conditionally a single European01:04:44
space, and so on. But the01:04:45
post-Soviet countries by default Well,01:04:47
except for the Baltic countries, by default01:04:49
they were perceived as really a sphere01:04:51
of interest of the Russian Federation, by the way,01:04:53
Ukraine for a long time, let me remind you, and01:04:54
behaved accordingly, there are no01:04:56
borders, a single cultural information01:04:58
space, merged economies. Well, that01:05:00
is, there are these corrupt merged01:05:02
political parties that were01:05:04
financed from Russia and so on, not01:05:05
only in Ukraine but also in other countries,01:05:07
now there is a total rupture of01:05:09
all this And accordingly, finally,01:05:12
European countries or our01:05:14
partners there are wider01:05:23
Eurohangar oce security guarantees in the01:05:26
assessment of mutual programs of01:05:27
military-technical cooperation Well, and01:05:29
so on and so forth we are just01:05:31
going through the stage that Israel went through01:05:33
much earlier, well, in connection with its01:05:36
war Mikhail Thank you very much We01:05:39
went a little overboard but Sorry, as I already01:05:41
said, this was my fourth01:05:43
script, everything is entirely on my conscience01:05:45
Mikhail Thank you again, thank you01:05:49
because it was it01:05:53
and not Gentlemen, don’t forget01:05:55
to subscribe to us, don’t forget to share01:05:58
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for the access code and I will try to tell in01:06:07
as much detail as I can how the01:06:10
attack on Israel took place01:06:15
and how the Israeli army managed to01:06:18
mobilize01:06:20
130% of the reservists by this day01:06:33
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Михаил Подоляк. Израиль. ХАМАС. Украина. Путин. Запад. Визит Зеленского в Израиль. На что похожа пропаганда ХАМАС? Что будет теперь с Украиной, когда все внимание сосредоточено на Израиле? Китай и Тайвань? Беседа с Юлией Латыниной. 00:00 ‒ Начало 00:43 ‒ Что произошло в Израиле? 03:00 ‒ Отношения Израиля и Украины сейчас 06:59 ‒ Роль Путина в происходящем 10:33 ‒ ХАМАС и Путин ‒ кто кого консультирует? 16:26 ‒ Путин ‒ безусловный выгодоприобретатель войны в Израиле 21:10 ‒ Украина переосмысливает свое политическое положение 25:36 ‒ Информационная поддержка Израиля 31:29 ‒ Резолюция ПАСЕ 34:25 ‒ Наступление на Авдеевку 37:23 ‒ Выйдет ли Украина на границы 1991 года? 42:59 ‒ Уголовное дело Арестовича 44:10 ‒ Путин переобулся? 47:34 ‒ Что Израилю делать с леваками? 56:19 ‒ Китай нападет на Тайвань? 57:32 ‒ Украина отошла на второй план? 59:29 ‒ Путин действует нерационально 1:02:27 ‒ Израилю помогли быстрее 1:05:36 ‒ Конец Огромное спасибо всем, кто нам помогает: Помочь нашему каналу: Patreon https://www.patreon.com/join/3340678/checkout https://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=YQ6SDALR7UFAJ&source=url https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/latynina через ko-fi https://ko-fi.com/latynina1 Кроме этого, пожертвовать на развитие этого канала можно, зайдя на его главную страницу и нажав на кнопочку с синей головкой, расположенной справа вверху рядом с плашкой YL-сайт. Пожертвовать на развитие этого канала с карточки можно, зайдя на сайт https://latynina.tv/, и там вверху слева висит крупная кнопка донейт. Нам можно также пожертвовать деньги переводом на счет нашей организации LATYNINAORG MTÜ IBAN EE421010220274614225 SWIFT EEUHEE2X Bitcoin Address - bc1qltgykx93plrpp32ygktl4srzz4z5sa467ppafq bitcoincash:qq2uhptcx7qqxvtpgqs2spca6urgwuckxsc79vd39j Algo LXHCP5VLSULJTYNK3QXBXYA3YQ5RT7G3UKGKY4IDFAYGIKTDIO3SONPNNM Мой личный фейсбук https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser мой твиттер https://twitter.com/YLatynina Остальное ведет команда проекта https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Телеграмм - https://t.me/Ylatynina подписывайтесь Инстаграм latynina.tv https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser тикток latynina.tv здесь http://www.tiktok.com/@yulialatynina (подписывайтесь) страница в фейсбуке со всеми ссылками на видео и пр. Наш сайт https://www.latynina.tv/
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