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on the Christmastide table silent mistsa

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pech gelera Yak za pepe priyma bo gelera

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shield view pochi what is the price of the

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inconsistency of the West why on You

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know, firstly, I would like to say that

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before we talk about

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inconsistency, we can talk about a

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certain schizophrenia that we have been

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observing from the very beginning the beginning of

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conflicts in general in the post-Soviet

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space in general, the very idea that Russia

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can do whatever it wants in the post-Soviet space

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as

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if it were its backyard and in no

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case should anything be done against it,

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that saving drowning people is the business of the

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Rukh of the drowning people themselves, even if this is

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permissible in the Republic of Moldova or Georgia It

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always scared me because you

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know, approximately the same situation was in the

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former Yugoslavia, but somehow no one

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thought that Serbia could do whatever it liked with the

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neighboring union republics of the former Soviet Union,

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and in the case of

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Russia it was like this if you remember

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what even if When there was a war in Georgia,

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everyone explained Well, Georgia

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must somehow try to protect itself, if it

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cannot protect itself, we will send Nicolas

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Sarkozy, he will sign a ceasefire agreement,

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and so that the

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Russian will remain Russian at the

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stage of the Russian-Ukrainian war

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It seems to me that this has all moved into an even

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stranger phase because we

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always say that Russia and Ukraine are fighting a

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war. The West is helping Ukraine in this war,

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which was

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unjustly attacked, but

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at the

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same time the West demands that it should

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not be fired upon with weapons under any circumstances.

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just Russian territories And those

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Russian territories that the West

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considers Russian And those Russian

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territories that Russia considers

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Russian that are not Russian

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but are written down in the Russian

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Constitution about them

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and we are offered to accept this schizophrenia

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as an absolutely natural desire

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to avoid escalation Although this is completely

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unclear What is the point when from the point

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of view of the Russian Constitution As you

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know, Bryansk and Simferopol and Kherson

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are the same thing, but from the point of view of

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international law, if you

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can give weapons that fall on

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formally Russian territory, why

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can’t you destroy military facilities in

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other zones that are included in the

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Russian Constitution one more

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incomprehensible thing the next incomprehensible thing

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Ukraine itself says we will not fight

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on the territory of Russia we cannot we

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should not our allies are against but then this is a

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Strange War then we agree that

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this is a special operation of Russia on the territory of

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Ukraine and not a war because war

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is when one country is fighting on

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the territory of one country, and the country that is

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attacked can move into the

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territory of the aggressor country, as was the case

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in all Wars. And if this is prohibited, if the

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state border of

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the Russian Federation is here, this is a kind of red

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line. Well, there is an internationally recognized

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border, then this is a very strange war

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Initially, and then the question arises:

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How do you want to win this war?

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so that

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the offensive would take place at several

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points and the West wanted it at one and

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for this one to concentrate on

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Zaporozhye. Yes, there

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was a broken

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corridor between Rostov and Crimea. Why did the

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West want it so much? because the West suddenly

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decided for itself that in this case

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Ukraine would have a strong position in

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negotiations with Russia

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and if let’s say this doesn’t happen Booth has

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weak positions in negotiations with Russia

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and there are no negotiations with Russia Who

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said let’s say President Biden,

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President Macron Chancellor Scholz that

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Putin is generally going to conduct some kind of

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negotiations in the event of a breakthrough

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in the corridor or not in the event of a breakthrough

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corridor, there is also a Ukrainian

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idea, a very popular one that

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anyone who watches

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TV will present to you, what if Ukraine liberates

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its territories Toda

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et ro will fall apart, the Russians will rise up,

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there will be a crisis and the end of the world, and if it doesn’t

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fall apart, we have liberated our

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territories and Russia How it stood within its

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internationally recognized borders so it

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stands with Putin at the head. Yes, and in

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the head, and then that is, all this

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absolutely understands some kind of

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unreality

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where the good option is what we

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came up with for ourselves and the bad option is what

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we didn’t come up with for ourselves and now we move on

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at the present moment it is also extremely strange,

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we are watching the vote in

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Congress and we are all saying Well,

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it’s clear Well, yes, the Republicans are using the

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Ukraine issue to put pressure

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on the Democrats on the Mexican

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border issue because they understand how

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important this is for President Biden And that

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’s why they are blocking aid to Ukraine to

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force the Biden administration

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on the issue of borders And in general they are

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very supportive of Ukraine And what the

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hell actually Explain to me

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Why we consider this

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completely moral behavior of the Republican

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Party to be something worthy of serious

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political analysis because in fact,

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the Republicans have always opposed

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aggression against authoritarianism against

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so that one state is an

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encroacher, Putin is dangerous if he is not

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stopped from the point of view of the general

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growth of the

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international situation as an

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unstable and complex situation. Kevin McCartt,

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after leaving the post of Speaker of the

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House of Representatives, the US Congress

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compared Putin with Hitler. But he did not

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compare any of the Mexicans with Hitler.

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migrants who

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cross the blessed border

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with the United States Why is it necessary to

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speculate? Those borders are certainly

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important for America for Republicans from the point

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of view of their political ideas about

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how security should be maintained

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at the border and from the point of view of

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Donald Trump's election chances, we understand all this

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perfectly well. But why does it need to

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be exchanged? After all, this issue of assistance to

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Ukraine is not purely a question of the

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Democratic Party, because the

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majority among Republican supporters

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supports the need to

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confront totalitarianism and help

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Ukraine in the World Cup, in fact, the essence of the

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moment is that you are talking about

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inconsistency, but I would say about the

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immorality of the political Armed Forces, this is

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what we are seeing. And this is somewhere nearby and

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this is somewhere nearby. Okay, I agree, but to be

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honest, it just surprises me

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because you know, these are such

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basic things that need to be

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explained to

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everyone like this. What is the way out of this

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because the Republicans seem to have

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such a breeze here

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that it seems like they are going to some- then concessions

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on the issue of the Mexican border, and what’s more,

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today Peskov has already commented on the

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American proposal. Well,

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what is needed has been publicly announced. If negotiations are to be held,

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they should be carried out according to the

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formula proposed by Ukraine with the

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precondition of abandoning the

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territories, and so on, and has already been

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rejected. This was already rejected by Peskov today.

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it was said where then is it all

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going? Why am I asking about this

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because even if they vote for, even if these

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60 billion are accepted,

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their decision means, well, accepting

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the solution to the war issues by other

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means, it is not removed, and

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the appeal goes on like this, look at their

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internal contradictions between the authorities

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military and civilian in Ukraine there

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means the voices of the Armed Forces are louder about the need for

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negotiations,

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too, elections in America are coming soon, we don’t have

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time to resolve our issues and

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then deal with it, and this sounds in different

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contexts in different interpretations, but

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this also sounds like what’s next then it’s

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just interesting Is it preparation for a

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counter-offensive in the spring, or should I say that I

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really added it and I

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won’t even give all the quotes from President Pavel of

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the Czech Republic and others about the fact that Well, there

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was a chance, a chance didn’t work out with

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the counter-offensive that was supposed to come, but

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mine didn’t get there And so on What

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next do I not a military expert to assert

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that I can speak clearly The

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Armed Forces of Ukraine are capable of a new

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offensive

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in the summer, at least We

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see very well that the question of offensive

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is a question of whether the Ukrainian army has the

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appropriate capabilities, but it is also

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necessary to take into account the fortification

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that Russia has built in the

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occupied territories it is

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absolutely obvious that the

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mobilization resources of the Russian

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Federation exceed the mobilization

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resources of Ukraine, if we enter into a

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long war, then no matter what the efforts of the

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Ukrainian military to increase the

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mobilization resource, they will still

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not overtake the Russians. Well, this is still a

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war of the country in 25- 30 million people with a

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country of 120 million is an objective

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reality, we cannot change it, there is

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another real problem:

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Ukraine has indeed always prepared

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for an offensive war lately,

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but has not prepared for a defensive war.

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Therefore, if we even want to retain those

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territories that are under

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control today Ukrainian government, then

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we, in principle, need the same

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fortifications of the same

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professional level that

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Russia has with interchangeable fields in

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exactly the same way about everything, whether we want to

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attack or not, because even

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if we assume that the issue of attacking the

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positions occupied by the Russian army

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remains relevant this does not mean that the

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Russian army itself should be able to

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easily attack our

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positions if it has such an

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opportunity; in any case, a situation must be

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created where the Ukrainian army, the

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Ukrainian population must be confident

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in the inaccessibility of the territory that

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is now under the control of the

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Ukrainian government, here we are always they liked

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to say fortress Bakhmut fortress

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Avdievka we need fortress Ukraine If

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this fortress Ukraine existed

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if we drew the appropriate

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conclusions from what happened between

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Russia and Ukraine starting in 2014

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if after 2019 we built

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defense fortifications they would open the

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so-called border crossings on the

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line of contact somewhere in Stanitsa

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Luganskaya, then now we would already be living and

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generally living in a peaceful country

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because the Predator because the agre attacks the

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weak and naive, the strong and

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self-confident He does not attack And this is also an important

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conclusion from all the events which occurred

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between 2019 and 2022, but of course I will not

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remove responsibility from those

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Ukrainian leaders who

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led the country between 2014

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and 22 because there was also an idea that the

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same Minsk agreements could

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provide a certain period of stability and

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not an attack by Russia on Ukraine

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because Russia as if it would exist in

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this internationally controlled

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paradigm, but there was no understanding that if

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experienced politicians fall out of this paradigm,

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let’s say there are Petro Poroshenko and

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Angela Merkel, then this paradigm will become a

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completely different

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type and, on the contrary, will create

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favorable conditions for Vladimir Putin

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to prepare for a new attack, which

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began to happen in 2019, therefore in

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20149 it was necessary to teach the possibility of

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similar

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Poli both in our country and in the West and

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prepare for a possible attack by Russia

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not in the event that, let’s say, the

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forces that came to power were in power after the Maidan of

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2013 2014 And in in the event of a real

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change of power, if a leadership comes to power in

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the country unable to

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understand the full scale of the challenges and tasks,

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in the end you always need to

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take this into account. By the way, this, as they

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say, is not the worst option that the

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Ukrainians elected Vladimir Zelensky in 2019.

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We remember that after the victory the

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orange revolution of 2004 generally

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took revenge in 2010 when

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pro-Russian Poly came to power,

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poet against this background, 2019 does not yet

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look like the kind of catastrophe that we have

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already experienced, but in any case, in any

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case, it is clear that there was no clear awareness

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of what needed to be

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done

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in the recent past was Well, in

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any case, you can’t change anything now.

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Well, here it is, it is what it is, and

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of course I’m telling you again that we don’t

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know whether there will be an offensive. Whether there will be an offensive is

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that we, in

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principle, cannot predict now

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because

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it will only be clear when we

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see all the components

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help the presence of weapons the presence of exercise

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potential we will evaluate the capabilities of the Russian

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Armed Forces this is all clear

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but it arises The next question is also

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quite serious

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And even without an offensive What should a

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political moment look like? This is a

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political one After all, we are discussing the

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issue of some kind of armed solution to the

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military problem solution to the problem without

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seeing a political formula, there is even an

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offensive, as we have already talked to you,

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let’s assume that it

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will even happen, let’s assume that some part of

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the territory is liberated, what’s

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next What is the political

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solution negotiations with Russia And if

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there are no negotiations in this case What with

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NATO and what about security guarantees,

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after all, a political decision in any case

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should be discussed in Independence from the

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military uns military also quite a lot of

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places

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they liberated most

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of the country's territory, part of the Kherson

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region, part of the Kharkov region, they did not

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allow the occupation of the north, they did not

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allow the occupation of the entire territory of the

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Donetsk region they have certain

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positions that they occupy, what

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the West says.

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Well, we understand that as long as

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Ukraine

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wins, maybe the conditions for

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joining NATO are victory over

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Russia. And what is Victory over Russia

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for the West? Bring me something, I don’t know what and Do

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n’t go there I know where What

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Victory over Russia should look like is when

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Western officials say we must

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liberate our territory And how do we

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guarantee Western politicians that

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Russia will no longer attack it or

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fire at it Or should we

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take Moscow, take the keys, so to speak, from Moscow and bring it

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to Brussels, what should we

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do to make the West decide that we

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have won and can we alone achieve all

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this?

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Why is it considered absolutely

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reasonable to solve the problems of restoring the

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territorial integrity of Ukraine, that

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is, returning to international law

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to return Justice in

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international relations exclusively with

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our own hands? Why is this the same? also a

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good

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question. This is a very good question.

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Recently, the Armed Forces have begun to

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make more statements in the context of the fact that it’s

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enough to discuss. From the West,

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Ukraine’s membership in NATO is, as it were,

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not a very near future, and this despite the fact

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that we were not expecting specifics from the summit in Vilnius.

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about the fact that an

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offer to join would have been made immediately, but the

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specifics were in terms of what Zelensky was talking about.

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He wanted clear

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explanations. There would be a road, at a minimum,

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Ukraine’s entry into NATO, and now it

00:17:02

seems to me that this shooting from afar is

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starting since the Anniversary September

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anniversary of the NATO summit will be held in

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Washington. Well what could be symbolic

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what could be symbolic than the summit in

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Washington, which Biden hosts against the

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backdrop of the war in Ukraine, the

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looseness is that for some reason

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And those decisions that can be made

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without regard to Moscow, for example, membership

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in NATO of Ukraine And what does Moscow

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have to do with the war? Moscow’s right to decide whether

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Ukraine will join NATO or not, but nevertheless,

00:17:41

this remains a consideration and the inhibition of this

00:17:45

membership is caused by it. Well, of course, what

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else and will Moscow agree with this, won’t

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this be a

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factor? Yes, the conflict with NATO is already Moscow

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and therefore, by the way, when I’m

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saying, I’ve said more

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than once that Ukraine may not join

00:18:01

NATO, but it may receive an invitation to

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NATO at the same

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Washington meeting. France,

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Finland and Sweden received it. But again, these are the

00:18:12

security guarantees that the

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United States gave to Finland and

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Sweden when they decided to

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join NATO is a matter of

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goodwill of the United States. They could

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not have given these guarantees as a matter of principle. In the

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past, Britain decided

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to provide such guarantees of

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nuclear safety, so these guarantees

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could be provided to Finland, Sweden

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without applications to NATO, and Ukraine could be given

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an invitation in NATO and there are no

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security guarantees, the United States will

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not give them,

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you understand, yes, we understand, so it

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turns out then there is no solution because

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you say correctly. What is considered a

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victory

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if it means the

00:19:00

liberation of the territory of Ukraine to the

00:19:02

borders of the version of the year when the

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sovereign itself is considered exactly

00:19:07

this territory, then this prospect is

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even in the most ideal scenario in the

00:19:11

most ideal situation And this is Crimea,

00:19:13

this is Donbass, this is part of the Kherson

00:19:16

Zaporozhye region, it does not

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seem to be a close prospect,

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then it turns out They themselves give Moscow the

00:19:23

opportunity to drag

00:19:27

PTO

00:19:29

into NATO, Ukraine and make decisions about it

00:19:32

respectively, members of NATO and, so to

00:19:34

speak, the alliance as a whole. Then the question is

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Next. But if, after all, a

00:19:40

unilateral decision had been made, a

00:19:42

proposal for Ukraine’s accession had been made, this

00:19:44

could have led to the end of the war, that

00:19:46

is, in Moscow there was a gap until the end of

00:19:49

Ukraine’s entry into NATO and

00:19:51

then it would have been necessary to end the war, Moscow is ready

00:19:53

to come into direct

00:19:57

armed contact

00:19:59

with NATO With such an appearance order With

00:20:02

such a decision by NATO, here is the question Well,

00:20:05

again, here you can treat this differently.

00:20:07

I just think

00:20:10

that in this situation Russia would hardly

00:20:14

go straight the conflict with NATO all the time,

00:20:18

all the talk about the fact that Russia is ready

00:20:19

to fight with NATO, which is leading the battle,

00:20:21

Anatolyevich Medvedev, in my opinion, is

00:20:23

already saying today that we are already close. Well, but

00:20:26

as you know, everyone

00:20:28

in Russia knows that if you attack NATO,

00:20:32

NATO responds to you and the level military

00:20:35

potential is not incomparable and the level of

00:20:38

nuclear danger for Russia is great.

00:20:40

Because there are the United States and

00:20:43

other NATO countries that have nuclear

00:20:45

weapons. Great Britain and France are

00:20:47

such an objective reality, so

00:20:49

we can look at this situation from both

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sides; President Biden obviously

00:20:53

looks at it if we If we accept Ukraine into

00:20:56

NATO, then in this way we will create

00:20:58

the possibility of a direct conflict with Russia.

00:21:01

But I look at it from the other side if

00:21:04

Ukraine receives security guarantees from

00:21:06

NATO or from the United States or

00:21:08

an invitation to join NATO, even if we are talking about

00:21:11

the territory that is now

00:21:12

controlled by the legitimate Ukrainian

00:21:13

government then

00:21:15

not a single missile will fall on this territory anymore. I

00:21:17

admit that some drones

00:21:18

will fly in. Ukrainian

00:21:20

drones will fly into Russia. It’s

00:21:22

possible, but there won’t be any missile attacks. The

00:21:24

troops will no longer be anywhere beyond this

00:21:26

red line; they won’t

00:21:28

even try to break through the conventional line of contact.

00:21:30

will be in their own

00:21:33

zone where they have a responsibility, so

00:21:38

to speak, to themselves, a zone of their

00:21:42

occupational responsibility. So they

00:21:44

will sit there and not move further.

00:21:47

This is the truth, how to resolve the issue of

00:21:49

Ukrainian offensives, will

00:21:52

the West be ready to agree that Ukraine

00:21:54

will continue to

00:21:57

try

00:21:58

its liberating territory is

00:22:02

the question, but everything else seems

00:22:06

solvable to me, but this is my approach. I am not the President of the

00:22:07

United States, I am not responsible for the

00:22:09

nuclear danger to my own

00:22:12

population. We are unraveling this whole

00:22:15

tangle of

00:22:16

inconsistency in NATO’s actions,

00:22:18

after all, many of these hopes are connected. I

00:22:21

want to emphasize with the results of the Kharkov

00:22:25

operation in the direction of the Kharkov

00:22:28

operation in September 2022, the

00:22:32

subsequent liberation of Kherson and the

00:22:34

entire right bank of the Dnieper and by the end of

00:22:38

the year they themselves said the Americans themselves

00:22:41

after especially the November deoccupation of

00:22:43

Kherson that on the battlefield Well, Barel

00:22:46

said it, they said it in NATO, but the

00:22:49

Americans echoed this that yes, but since

00:22:52

Moscow can’t force her to leave,

00:22:55

this situation must be resolved on the

00:22:57

battlefield, there was such inspiration Well, there’s only

00:22:59

a little left on the battlefield Give weapons,

00:23:02

quickly start Counter-offensive operations

00:23:04

and so on, then these conversations

00:23:06

had a more optimistic charge A

00:23:09

today, so to speak, yes, perhaps it’s easier for them

00:23:13

to answer this way to the collective West as

00:23:15

a whole when they say, well, your

00:23:17

counter-offensive was successful, if it was successful,

00:23:19

then of course, but Forgive me, you

00:23:26

have

00:23:28

the Kremlin and so on. That

00:23:31

is, the immutability of the West is precisely

00:23:34

that guarantor success of

00:23:37

the counter-offensive, including Because

00:23:39

if you say there, you comply with your

00:23:42

obligations on the supply of weapons and on

00:23:44

membership in NATO and on the integration of Ukraine

00:23:47

into the Western community. In a broad sense,

00:23:48

then the chances are higher. Well, good. Then the

00:23:52

question about Moscow. Let's talk about

00:23:55

Moscow in your opinion. uh, today, by the way,

00:23:59

Putin again in such a theatrical manner

00:24:02

means, as usual,

00:24:05

some kind of staged burn, the hero of

00:24:08

the DPR means he turned to him please,

00:24:11

he’s running for the post of President and

00:24:13

he says Yes, yes, of course, I

00:24:14

’m running there and so

00:24:16

on in this situation, that is, It looks like

00:24:19

somewhere- then even some forcing is going on,

00:24:21

they didn’t wait for the liberation of

00:24:23

Avdeevka, let’s announce it now And

00:24:25

the fourteenth is triumphant, which means it’s

00:24:27

all about muso, this whole topic about

00:24:30

Putin’s nomination And what is Putin’s plan? It remains the

00:24:33

same that he is waiting for elections in the United

00:24:36

States and a protracted war and its concept

00:24:39

Putin needs him Yes in 2024 To

00:24:44

wait for Trump to come to the White House or

00:24:46

something else This is how he sees himself in your

00:24:49

opinion from the fact that the public

00:24:51

information that circulates the

00:24:52

exchange of experts on this matter, I think

00:24:55

that the presidential election

00:24:58

is a milestone but not the end here Many

00:25:00

again may think that there will be

00:25:02

presidential elections in the United States,

00:25:04

and then Putin will decide how he needs to

00:25:07

end the war, he can decide how he should

00:25:09

continue the war, wait for the elections in the

00:25:12

United States, just see who

00:25:14

will be president of the United States and what the

00:25:16

continuation of the war might look like

00:25:18

Because under the Biden administration and under the

00:25:20

Trump administration this may be a

00:25:21

different type of

00:25:22

continuation, so maybe I

00:25:26

see no reason to believe that Trump

00:25:28

will become President of the United States and

00:25:30

what will happen is he will negotiate with

00:25:32

Putin on Ukraine. I even admit that

00:25:34

such proposals will be that the

00:25:35

administration the new one will speak to

00:25:38

Putin Well, let's decide, we'll respond with

00:25:41

sanctions Will you withdraw troops or What do you

00:25:43

think Trump will say, Let's do what

00:25:45

you want, it will also never happen, it's

00:25:48

Trump, he can't just

00:25:51

leave somewhere and say more on American

00:25:55

responsibility no, go ahead,

00:25:58

kill the souls of the geese, please. This is your

00:26:00

personal business. No, he will think that he is

00:26:03

offering Putin some kind of good

00:26:06

compromise, so we will no longer

00:26:08

restrict your oil and gas supplies there; we

00:26:10

will not even accept

00:26:12

Ukraine into NATO at all; that may also be the case, but you

00:26:15

please go away from its sovereign

00:26:17

territory or Stop hostilities, you

00:26:19

never know, he won’t leave and he won’t do

00:26:28

whatever he wants. No, he will do the same thing

00:26:30

that Biden does, that’s

00:26:33

clear. That is, this is the prospect. Well,

00:26:37

if he connects with it with hope for

00:26:40

This is the Kremlin and then these voices sound that

00:26:43

Trump will come and everything will change, it is, in

00:26:45

general, ephemeral to a certain extent. I am

00:26:47

also more inclined towards this idea

00:26:49

because, let’s say,

00:26:50

from year to year Trump

00:26:54

has demonstrated multidirectional

00:26:56

behavior. Although, well, they say to his merits

00:26:59

regarding some weapons, he - after all, he

00:27:01

supplied it to Ukraine, it must be said, but

00:27:03

nevertheless, the statement of

00:27:05

the wild man. And who said that in politics the word does

00:27:09

not play the same meaning as the weapon, the

00:27:13

poet when he speaks, oh well, you never know what he

00:27:14

says there, especially the Trumpists,

00:27:16

it is customary to think that it is not enough to justify him. What does

00:27:19

he say? the main thing is what he does, but

00:27:20

nevertheless, he doesn’t say

00:27:26

anything, I invite Putin with him as at the

00:27:29

famous Helsinki press conference

00:27:31

where he means and about the investigations

00:27:33

there of the future of NATO and so on, he said a lot of things

00:27:36

when, as president,

00:27:38

he met with Putin there, this is strong

00:27:41

influenced international security on the

00:27:43

incitement of the conflict on Putin’s self-confidence,

00:27:45

his confidence in the fact that one can

00:27:47

commit certain actions with impunity

00:27:50

in the political and other and military

00:27:54

sense, and so on, here’s how

00:27:57

the situation can be screwed up, clearly Biden is now

00:28:00

losing. What chance does Biden have to

00:28:02

win and What chance does Trump have of not

00:28:04

losing, let’s put it this way, let’s put it

00:28:06

Binar, let’s put the question like this, I think

00:28:09

Biden wins, conditionally, Biden. Yes, if

00:28:12

Ukraine takes Melitopol, Mariupol and

00:28:15

Berdyansk, conditionally, it’s for whom in whose

00:28:17

favor? This will help Biden. I don’t think

00:28:20

that this will really affect the results.

00:28:21

US presidential elections We understand

00:28:23

that the results of the US presidential elections

00:28:24

will be predetermined by completely different

00:28:26

circumstances, and we see that even the

00:28:29

Middle East conflict affects the

00:28:31

US elections much more than the war in

00:28:33

Ukraine. Because with the war in Ukraine,

00:28:36

everything is basically clear. This war is far away,

00:28:40

but it is clear that Russia is bad Ukraine is

00:28:42

good no one supports Russia As

00:28:44

they say, but in the Middle East there is

00:28:46

already a whole story here

00:28:49

Look at the representatives of American

00:28:52

Jewry who always traditionally

00:28:54

vote for Democrats, they are talking

00:28:57

to Fox News viewers because they don’t

00:28:59

like the way the liberals present the situation in the

00:29:01

Middle East channels and

00:29:03

a large number of

00:29:05

Democratic supporters from such liberal and left-wing

00:29:09

circles are dissatisfied with Biden Because

00:29:12

Biden, in their opinion, supports Israel too much

00:29:16

Israel and by the way, Biden’s rating is falling

00:29:20

on this matter, but there is a very

00:29:22

good question: When will these people come

00:29:24

to the polling stations and they will have

00:29:26

Biden and Trump, they understand that they will support Trump

00:29:28

in such a situation, they will support Biden anyway,

00:29:30

they will have no choice but to

00:29:33

support Biden in this situation

00:29:34

because they will know exactly how

00:29:36

Trump will act in a situation of the

00:29:38

Middle East crisis, it will be completely different,

00:29:42

and this is also very important point Well,

00:29:47

that’s why it’s clear that today we do

00:29:50

n’t know at all what the

00:29:51

presidential election campaign in the

00:29:52

USA will look like. We don’t even know exactly who will be its

00:29:55

participants.

00:30:07

that the situation is not

00:30:09

simple, but nevertheless

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00:30:15

we know

00:30:17

that in any case it will be affected by a

00:30:21

number of circumstances, a number of and elections in the

00:30:25

United States will now

00:30:26

also be determined by

00:30:28

Trump's lawsuits, which has never happened at all. Are you

00:30:31

sure that Trump will receive the nomination from

00:30:32

the Republicans Yes, in theory he should

00:30:34

get it, but there are no guarantees

00:30:38

that this will happen,

00:30:40

that’s all. Well, we rely on the ratings

00:30:43

that are currently published and Trump clearly

00:30:46

has an advantage there over

00:30:49

all other Republican candidates,

00:30:52

this is firstly And secondly Well, in reality,

00:30:55

Biden’s ratings are probably in addition to those who

00:30:59

will be at the polling station when

00:31:01

choosing between Trump and Biden, if they

00:31:03

both actually reach the nomination,

00:31:06

accordingly,

00:31:07

those who simply won’t go or

00:31:09

somehow

00:31:13

decide in a different way will also be able to participate in the elections, this is a minus tram minus the

00:31:17

canoe There's still a lot of things that

00:31:19

will happen before the elections. We don't even know

00:31:22

what the intensity of passions will be. We are

00:31:25

in a very changing world. You understand, even

00:31:28

Trump's victory was completely unexpected;

00:31:31

remember that, in principle, Trump's ratings,

00:31:33

even in the swing States, were lower than

00:31:35

Hillary Clinton's ratings they said

00:31:37

perhaps Trump can speak when

00:31:39

Hillary Clinton said for the first time

00:31:41

Trump can win the election everyone

00:31:43

looked at her with great surprise and

00:31:45

literally in two months everything has changed,

00:31:47

now a lot is changing in politics, and

00:31:49

again under the influence of

00:31:50

international problems, note that here is a

00:31:53

vivid example - This the story with the

00:31:54

Netherlands is also an indicator of history

00:31:57

back in September Geert Wilders was

00:31:59

somewhere among the outsiders of the elections and then on

00:32:02

October 7 Hamas attacked

00:32:05

Israel and unexpectedly it was this event that

00:32:07

changed the entire political palette in

00:32:09

the Netherlands completely completely Oh, I

00:32:11

figured out all the political calculations,

00:32:13

look at the party brand ruta she is confident in

00:32:17

Victory And in the need for changes in

00:32:20

renewal, she chose as her leader a

00:32:23

politician of Turkish

00:32:26

origin

00:32:28

and

00:32:29

charming had to show these

00:32:32

changing Netherlands and already with this

00:32:35

leader they laid claim to victory and to

00:32:44

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00:32:50

premierstroy But in general, they did everything

00:32:52

right in Europeans without thinking about

00:32:56

how

00:32:58

it would all look in the event of

00:33:02

such a development of events, but look at the

00:33:04

Scottish National Party, which

00:33:07

elected as its

00:33:09

leader a politician of Palestinian

00:33:12

origin, whose relatives were stuck

00:33:14

in the Gaza Strip at the time of the Israeli

00:33:17

operation, he then had difficulty

00:33:19

telling him to rescue his mother-in-law and her husband from the

00:33:24

Gas Strip

00:33:25

and they will say, Well, what difference does it make? We are all

00:33:29

Scots. As they say, this is a political

00:33:31

nation, but only the Scottish National

00:33:33

Party, which has always been the vanguard of

00:33:34

this movement for sovereignty, Lundy,

00:33:37

month after month, is inferior to the

00:33:39

position of Labor every month before the elections.

00:33:41

Although, again, it did everything right and

00:33:44

showed that Scotland is not an ethnic

00:33:46

community but a political nation, but in

00:33:49

the conditions of a changing world this turned out to be an

00:33:55

argument that was not very well received by some of the Voters, just one turn of the steering wheel.

00:34:00

And maybe a

00:34:02

few more in this situation. We are

00:34:05

now talking now, the right march, by

00:34:08

and large, it gives chances for trump And

00:34:11

who said that this right-wing march

00:34:12

will not change as a result of certain

00:34:14

events? Well, we have seen this. We have seen this more than

00:34:16

once, that’s why I don’t

00:34:21

undertake to make predictions now, but again, I do

00:34:23

n’t think that the change of the President of the

00:34:24

United States is automatically a

00:34:27

success for Putin precisely because Putin doesn’t know how to

00:34:32

stop, he doesn’t have the understanding

00:34:35

that here I’ve achieved some

00:34:37

results, I need to stop. No, he

00:34:40

keeps pushing on like a bulldozer and as a

00:34:43

result, very often finds himself in a

00:34:46

situation where

00:34:48

the road is completely impassable. By the way, it’s not like it happened in Ukraine

00:34:51

since I can generally remind you many times about

00:34:54

situations when Putin had every chance

00:34:55

to strengthen his influence in Ukraine, he

00:34:57

only lost it. Yeah,

00:35:00

I would say starting in

00:35:05

2004, because in fact, when Viktor

00:35:10

Yushchenko ran for the presidency of

00:35:12

Ukraine, he didn’t have any

00:35:14

to say that he wants to worsen relations with

00:35:15

Russia, he sent one of his

00:35:17

closest associates, Oleg Rychacha, to

00:35:19

Moscow to talk with Russian

00:35:20

politicians, which proves that Yushchenko is not an enemy

00:35:23

of Russia, but what was the idea, it’s

00:35:25

not that he is an enemy of Russia, but Leonid

00:35:27

Danilovich appointed

00:35:29

Viktor Fedorovich as his successor you just have to

00:35:30

obey this, you don’t have to fight for power

00:35:32

if a decision has been made Well, if one more

00:35:37

thing Yanukovych Clearly was a Russian

00:35:39

agent and Putin simply didn’t want to take

00:35:41

risks This is definitely our man And

00:35:44

these are all the people with whom we have to

00:35:46

negotiate Why should they negotiate,

00:35:48

here’s a wonderful example from 2004 then,

00:35:51

by the way, a wonderful example of

00:35:55

2010 and the government.

00:35:57

Why did Putin get Yanukovych to

00:35:59

refuse to sign the

00:36:01

association agreement? That’s why, so that what we

00:36:04

see now In Georgia, you can

00:36:06

sign any

00:36:09

agreement and don’t give a damn about it; it’s not the right thing to

00:36:13

force it. He wanted to force it. He

00:36:16

wanted to force it.

00:36:25

his situation,

00:36:28

but it’s incomprehensible,

00:36:33

the problem is that

00:36:37

we believed that the signing of the

00:36:40

association agreement would guarantee Yanukovych a second

00:36:44

term, but he

00:36:46

believed that Medvedchuk should probably

00:36:49

become president if Yanukovych signed the

00:36:51

Association Agreement, then he could

00:36:52

remain in power, but he appointed

00:36:54

Medvedchuk as president of Ukraine

00:36:56

incorrectly and he could live in this world of

00:36:59

absolute lack of understanding of the realities and,

00:37:03

again, after the

00:37:05

Maidan it was necessary to

00:37:07

seize Crimea with the Donbass, or

00:37:09

maybe it was necessary to offer Ukraine a

00:37:11

government of national unity of

00:37:12

some kind and declare Russia the

00:37:14

guarantor of territorial integrity and

00:37:17

try to restore Russian influence,

00:37:19

there was a lot of opportunity all

00:37:21

the time all the time, instead of these opportunities,

00:37:24

you know, he hit me in the balls from

00:37:28

yes Well, then, let’s still return to

00:37:32

Putin, Putin’s elections and the situation

00:37:35

related to the

00:37:37

prospect of internal political

00:37:39

development there, and

00:37:42

there, in general,

00:37:45

this entire political palette is not alien to you,

00:37:49

Vitaly of everything that is happening in Russia Well,

00:37:52

yes, they studied it endoscopically, willy-nilly. Well,

00:37:56

these endemics have been studied for

00:38:00

many years, but look what the

00:38:03

whole political process has come to,

00:38:04

certainly the system With the

00:38:06

drift war has already reached such a totalitarian

00:38:09

Well, maybe not a completely finished form,

00:38:11

but they are still waiting for something close to completion

00:38:13

some kind of benchmark events

00:38:16

that will allow

00:38:18

them to open completely, for example,

00:38:21

completely close the borders, control the

00:38:23

Internet, deprive the citizenship of your

00:38:26

agents there, so I’m still with if they are running, so

00:38:29

to speak, the police are running around these gay

00:38:31

clubs, then this is already quite Well, too, too,

00:38:35

too Return sodomy

00:38:37

articles something else Well, all together All

00:38:40

together, that is, they seem to have a comprehensive

00:38:41

approach and it is necessary to give Putin he should. He

00:38:43

never did so much. In these

00:38:46

issues, in these he allowed himself

00:38:49

some kind of measuredness,

00:38:52

he Well, in general, he approached this knowing that

00:38:56

he will rule for a long time for almost a

00:38:58

quarter of a century Yes, but nevertheless, what

00:39:02

remains in these conditions inside Russia

00:39:04

for understanding? That is, this is a game with

00:39:07

all these candidates, why does he

00:39:10

need it, and there is Yavlinsky Shmi link further

00:39:14

What if he already is in that

00:39:17

phase and that stage when it is already possible to begin

00:39:20

to think through some kind of change in the entire

00:39:24

appearance of the

00:39:25

system, the GDR model, most likely everything

00:39:28

is a multi-party system, only this, well, this is

00:39:31

yesterday's Love, this is yesterday's love, he

00:39:37

has suffered from this love for some time since the 2000s The GDR is like

00:39:39

nostalgia there And now it’s

00:39:41

not even the

00:39:42

GDR anymore, no, it’s clear that it’s not the GDR, but the very

00:39:45

idea of demonstrating

00:39:48

some kind of pluralism still remains with him. I don’t

00:39:50

know why, I don’t know. Because

00:39:54

because it’s not the Soviet Union, a sovereign

00:39:57

democracy. I don’t know. It’s hard to understand

00:40:00

because he wins in a fair

00:40:03

fight, this may be the last choice,

00:40:05

maybe then maybe there will be a referendum,

00:40:08

this is evolving all the time, remember

00:40:10

at one time he resigned to

00:40:12

miss, so to speak, 4 years or

00:40:15

five by four four from the eighth to the

00:40:17

twelfth, he was here and then, in general,

00:40:20

they made a seven-year term, so as

00:40:22

not to let anyone go anywhere, a six-year

00:40:25

six-year Yes, that’s right,

00:40:29

they changed the Constitution to reset

00:40:32

his terms and then maybe

00:40:34

change the Constitution again or just hold a

00:40:37

referendum on it, as was the case in Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan

00:40:39

trust, it is possible to hold some kind of referendum in 2036.

00:40:44

We think that

00:40:47

in 2036 there will simply be no

00:40:49

elections, there will be a referendum on the extension of

00:40:51

Putin’s powers for the next term,

00:40:57

how are we without Putin, there is no Putin, there is no

00:40:59

Russia, maybe something like that will happen, but

00:41:02

again -

00:41:04

this is all clear, but this is pure

00:41:06

ceremony, but you know, it could also be

00:41:08

connected with what they will still talk about the

00:41:10

legitimacy of Putin and

00:41:12

Putin’s illegitimate people, the people in Russia have been re-elected,

00:41:15

democracy, and in

00:41:17

Ukraine there is a military dictatorship, the term of office

00:41:21

about no president, but sits there and

00:41:23

commands This is such a Nazi country

00:41:27

opposite democratic Russia where

00:41:29

Putin won his presidency in an unequal and difficult struggle.

00:41:34

Well, who is this argument

00:41:37

for, in my opinion, only complete morons

00:41:39

because well, like Omen, who is all

00:41:42

this that we have been hearing these 22 months from

00:41:45

Putin Lavrova Kiselyov Dmitry

00:41:48

Solovyov this whole company doesn’t care

00:41:52

who it is they live in such a world

00:41:56

they feel comfortable in it Well, by the way, you

00:41:58

understand that it probably also gives them

00:42:00

special pleasure that they lie and everyone

00:42:02

is forced to listen to their lies to know that it’s a

00:42:05

lie and they know that this is a lie and everyone

00:42:06

will be Well,

00:42:11

I reveled in the crap lyrics of the anthem,

00:42:14

he says crap, not crap And when it

00:42:15

starts playing, you’ll stand up, this is it, it’s

00:42:22

absolutely clear Well, this is such such a

00:42:25

pleasure

00:42:28

in a good sense, it would be called

00:42:30

Kureisky, but in a negative sense, probably not

00:42:35

[music ]

00:42:40

epicureanism with this evil and lie that

00:42:44

changes the world for the worse before their eyes,

00:42:46

they are happy to communicate with the

00:42:49

President of Iran, calls him a dear

00:42:51

friend like Brezhnev, a Hawker, this is

00:42:54

his world now,

00:42:57

but Saudi Arabia United

00:42:59

Arab Emirates Iran China This is his world,

00:43:03

but by the way, I I think more seriously, we have

00:43:06

always understood that Russia, which by and

00:43:10

large, if you burn there to say

00:43:11

already a realist, in pre-Petrine times

00:43:14

was a classic Asian despotism

00:43:17

Yes, and Peter inflicted on it this flair, you

00:43:23

know, the European choice was

00:43:26

that we would build

00:43:27

beautiful houses here like in Amsterdam we shave our

00:43:30

beards and we’ll walk around here in a camisole and

00:43:33

speak German, Dutch, and

00:43:35

some even French, and this

00:43:37

was always the idea of what

00:43:40

choice, European or Asian. And even

00:43:43

by and large, communism was partly a

00:43:45

European choice because it was

00:43:47

European radical

00:43:49

ideology one way or another it was a

00:43:51

derivative of Marxism it was

00:43:53

not invented by Confucius As they say Well,

00:43:56

of course, and it might have seemed to many that

00:43:59

the rejection of

00:44:01

communism, which sooner or later

00:44:03

had to happen, should have

00:44:05

ended with the final arrival, so to speak,

00:44:08

this is not a Return Because

00:44:10

it was not a European the country, in contrast

00:44:12

to Ukraine or Lithuania, but by coming

00:44:14

to

00:44:15

Europe, but it turned out that the rejection of

00:44:18

communism is a return to

00:44:21

Asia, this is a much deeper

00:44:23

rollback, this rollback took place not in the

00:44:26

times of the Romanovs, so to speak,

00:44:29

but in the times of Ivan

00:44:33

the Terrible, here is Russia has finally become the

00:44:36

Moscow state of such an

00:44:38

Asian

00:44:40

despotic European features

00:44:42

can be traced just a little bit But

00:44:45

this is pure, let’s say

00:44:48

superficial, such a FR of Moscow and

00:44:51

St. Petersburg, simply because the

00:44:53

architecture is so

00:44:54

elaborate But by the way, if you Sing

00:44:59

around some

00:45:00

city Chinese in the center You

00:45:02

can also Shanghai, how it differs from

00:45:05

European cities, or Singapore or

00:45:08

Dubai is not European, but we understand that this is

00:45:11

Asia from the point of view of political

00:45:13

culture and in general and the preferences of the

00:45:16

population, here we are,

00:45:19

all BM polo and everything Although the Sun is very

00:45:24

kra

00:45:26

ub Well, in Russia it’s not European-style,

00:45:28

it’s convenient, but in Moscow you can find

00:45:30

separate places, so to speak, a separate district

00:45:33

in Barvikha, everything is European-style, convenient.

00:45:36

As they say, almost like Anthony Open But

00:45:39

this is such a thing, but there was a choice in

00:45:42

favor of Asian despotism and that’s it. the

00:45:45

real turn is in what we

00:45:50

see and that’s why these Elections are

00:45:52

like that. It would be a reminder that we once

00:45:56

thought of behaving like Europe, but we no longer

00:45:59

do, but there’s still some rudiment left. That’s why I

00:46:02

keep telling my

00:46:03

compatriots that in reality along

00:46:05

the border that we

00:46:07

protect will be the border of

00:46:09

European civilization or Yes,

00:46:12

of course, of course, that’s what

00:46:15

these former Soviet Republics can choose,

00:46:17

Ukraine is now becoming such a

00:46:22

fortress of Europe, defended by a poor outskirts, and it turns out to be a poor,

00:46:26

defended outskirts of China, not even Russians

00:46:30

Lukashenko is going to Beijing gray pin the main

00:46:33

defender of its sovereignty, but by and

00:46:35

large, today's Belarus is

00:46:39

Lukashenko's, like Russia, politically

00:46:43

this is Chinese civilization. So it

00:46:44

ends, relatively speaking,

00:46:47

China ends in Grodno.

00:46:50

Europe begins. This is what happened if someday the

00:46:52

government changes in Belarus and the

00:46:54

Belarusian people manage to escape from there.

00:46:56

Europe will be there. end then

00:46:58

in Russia For now So, well, this is such a

00:47:01

story, it’s global and the result of

00:47:05

this war will be like this Continental I

00:47:07

said this is this, this is

00:47:11

the subconto Eurasia, Europe is here, Asia is here,

00:47:14

Russia has made a choice, the Russian people, I

00:47:16

would say, have even made a choice in many ways

00:47:18

thanks to

00:47:22

Putin,

00:47:24

well, we are already close to the end for 50 minutes,

00:47:28

here is the last one. Summing up all this,

00:47:31

returning again to the topic of our broadcast,

00:47:33

what is the price of the inconsistency of the West?

00:47:36

And what is the price of the

00:47:48

West-East comrade?

00:47:54

I believe that those people

00:47:56

who say that he will not stop in Ukraine are absolutely right.

00:47:58

I’m not saying

00:48:00

that he will fight with NATO, but he

00:48:02

definitely has an ambition for a sphere of influence in

00:48:05

Central Europe. This is not our

00:48:06

speculation. We saw this in the

00:48:08

so-called security guarantees offered by the

00:48:10

Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian

00:48:12

Federation to the Americans. It was clearly

00:48:14

written there that you guarantee that the former

00:48:16

Soviet The republics will not become members of

00:48:18

NATO and withdraw the latest weapons from

00:48:21

countries that became NATO members in

00:48:25

1997. Speaking of which, this means that the

00:48:27

republics of the former Yugoslavia and the countries of

00:48:30

central Europe that were part of the

00:48:32

Warsaw

00:48:33

Pact should be in the sphere of

00:48:36

influence of Russia, that is, we need to return to the

00:48:39

Yalta order, like Stalin Roosevelt and

00:48:43

Churchill decided to give Stalin this

00:48:45

piece and give it back, we want to

00:48:47

take it in the ass and you understand perfectly well that it is

00:48:51

one thing when Russian troops are stationed

00:48:53

in Avdievka they are being held back, but another

00:48:56

story is the missile division in Uzhgorod,

00:48:59

again I will not say that it

00:49:01

will shoot at Warsaw or

00:49:03

Budapest no, but everything will start

00:49:07

to change There won’t even be a need for any

00:49:09

missile division, just politicians

00:49:11

like Orban or fi they Little by little will become

00:49:14

mainstream in Central Europe due to the

00:49:16

general fear of the population and desire How to

00:49:19

establish mutual understanding Yes they will

00:49:21

demand

00:49:24

demand for

00:49:26

this even countries like

00:49:28

Poland are tender, you know, Central Europe itself

00:49:33

will become a sphere of influence of Russia itself in this

00:49:36

case, because of such fear that

00:49:40

no one will admit, they will simply

00:49:42

vote for constructive

00:49:44

leaders for realistic political

00:49:47

forces and it will be a completely different world and

00:49:51

then you you are going to this summit

00:49:53

of the European Union and here you want to make some

00:49:56

fundamental decision. You

00:49:58

see how one after another

00:50:00

the hands of the Central European prime ministers are raised

00:50:02

who say no, we will not vote for this,

00:50:06

this will be a big problem. Therefore, it is

00:50:10

not in the interests of America, not not in the

00:50:13

interests of the European Union allow for

00:50:19

the possibility of sacrificing Ukraine. Yes, I

00:50:21

admit that the West is now unable to do this. It is

00:50:24

possible for

00:50:26

what we call the restoration of

00:50:28

justice. Yes, the restoration of the

00:50:29

territorial integrity of our country.

00:50:31

But I’m not thinking about justice, in

00:50:34

fact, the highest justice

00:50:36

is not a question of territorial integrity.

00:50:38

It’s a question of preserving the Ukrainian

00:50:39

statehood because Moscow does

00:50:41

not need these bloody pieces of land,

00:50:44

not Donbass, not Crimea, not Melitopol with the new

00:50:48

Kakhovka, there

00:50:50

was no Ukrainian statehood, yes,

00:50:53

of course, of course, of course it changes the entire

00:50:56

world

00:50:57

order Because the annexation of Crimea

00:51:01

has already changed the world order But if you manage to

00:51:03

destroy an entire state in the center of

00:51:06

Europe Sorry nya the world will be completely

00:51:08

different, we can’t even

00:51:10

imagine what it will be like and it is clear that

00:51:14

in this world the influence of China will

00:51:17

increase, I would say, by leaps and bounds, and

00:51:19

the influence of America will decrease,

00:51:21

no matter what we

00:51:22

think

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