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Hello friends Sunday evening00:00:21
Khodorkovsky Life channel and the program00:00:23
purely specific politics everything as you00:00:26
love everything you are used to we keep00:00:29
the traditions, in fact, it’s already almost a year00:00:32
tomorrow will be the anniversary of our program I,00:00:35
as usual, am glad to welcome00:00:36
Vladimir Borisovich00:00:39
Pastukhov Vladimir to our virtual studio Borisovich,00:00:40
hello00:00:41
Dmitry, it’s been almost a year since he taught the public00:00:45
his presence on Sundays. Let’s00:00:48
see how long we can last.00:00:50
Interesting, curious questions. I hope. At00:00:53
least no less than how long we00:00:56
lasted. We00:00:59
agreed that today we will try to00:01:00
turn the game around and start with a question from the00:01:04
audience. they are, as usual, interesting,00:01:06
sharp, deep, so let's00:01:08
really start with the question that00:01:11
was sent by our audience and then00:01:14
move on to the topics of the week, I suggest setting00:01:17
aside maybe minutes How many minutes00:01:19
10 exactly Probably yes, if it goes well00:01:22
then 15 probably you can agree00:01:26
all in your hands okay Let's go So00:01:29
first short question Can Vladimir00:01:32
give an example of a civil society00:01:34
changing the living which should00:01:37
strive As a result, which should00:01:39
strive As a result Our00:01:42
other societies in general are just trying to00:01:44
understand the gradations based on00:01:46
terminology Well, in general, it’s interesting It’s00:01:48
his personal opinion Thank you00:01:51
Vladimir Ivantsov Well, that is, very00:01:54
briefly then, of course, I can’t say that I00:01:57
fully understood the Question,00:01:59
that is, any civil society would00:02:03
suit me in Russia at least at00:02:08
least if it appeared there, then of00:02:12
course everything is completely different, but to sleep from the00:02:17
point of view of00:02:18
what civil society is,00:02:20
civil society has structured the00:02:22
Society in which there is at least00:02:25
some elements of soma activity That00:02:29
is, when relations between people are00:02:32
self-regulated at different levels00:02:35
without mediation from the00:02:38
state, I would say as the most00:02:41
simple form That is,00:02:43
if before the modern era, that is,00:02:47
roughly speaking, before the European00:02:50
16th-17th centuries00:02:53
18 Well, who00:02:57
we just understood that there is00:03:00
state power, then it was00:03:01
state power, it seemed to00:03:03
split into two parts,00:03:04
some functions that we usually00:03:07
consider political began to be performed00:03:09
within society, and some functions00:03:13
actually remained with the state,00:03:16
which was built above this more complex00:03:18
society But there is a question:00:03:22
Which society00:03:23
[music] is00:03:27
closer to us, probably those societies00:03:29
where, after all, the culture00:03:33
of self-organization is not very high, isn’t00:03:35
it and where the traditions of00:03:40
relying on a third force are still close to us? Therefore, I00:03:44
think that in the00:03:45
near future the ideal for Russia00:03:48
to achieve the level of civil society00:03:50
that exists today in the00:03:53
countries of south-eastern Europe. But00:03:56
even there, Poland, Hungary, the00:03:59
Czech Republic, Slovakia, seem to be strange,00:04:02
which historically came out of the zone of so-00:04:06
called secondary serfdom and,00:04:09
in fact, recently began to00:04:13
move along the democratic path. Well,00:04:16
that’s for the near future this is the level00:04:19
that I would like to achieve, let me say that I will add something to it.00:04:21
What do you00:04:23
think, for example, about South Korea, a country00:04:25
that I would compare with Russia in terms of the00:04:28
traditions of corruption, for example?00:04:31
Well, you know, corruption is such a00:04:35
universal property. I think that00:04:38
when you finally00:04:41
learn to decipher to the end00:04:43
some00:04:46
relic records of some00:04:48
prehistoric people find out bu-00:04:50
find out that there is a00:04:52
tree skin for you this did not00:04:56
always happen transparent according to the principle of00:04:57
justice00:04:58
And therefore I would not compare our00:05:02
society on this indicator I would say00:05:04
the following I am very cautious and very00:05:06
skeptical about any attempts00:05:09
compare Russia with any of the countries, let’s00:05:12
say Asian culture, be it00:05:17
China, where many00:05:20
more people like to00:05:22
compare themselves today with China, be it00:05:25
Korea, because00:05:26
with all that, Russia, being a rather00:05:30
specific and amateur00:05:33
civilization, in my opinion, it00:05:36
nevertheless belongs to cultures of the European00:05:39
type with quite powerfully developed00:05:42
processes of individualization,00:05:44
personalization, that is,00:05:47
types that seem to have00:05:50
features that are not present in Asian00:05:52
culture, in order to achieve00:05:55
results like South Korea in China you need to00:05:57
be cinnamon and the Chinese need to be beaten,00:06:00
this culture00:06:02
is undiluted with nothing communalism, this00:06:04
collectivism that cannot be cultivated this00:06:07
is passed down from generation to generation in a00:06:11
very specific way. I don’t00:06:14
believe that00:06:19
such a level of collectivism is possible for Russia. All00:06:23
I understand about Russia is. With all00:06:26
that, this country of amazing00:06:28
stunning individualism and even00:06:31
Ilyin, which Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin so loves to refer to,00:06:36
is not the most a Russian philosopher close to me00:06:39
wrote that this is the inability of Russians00:06:42
to federalism, but according to federalism,00:06:45
they understood cooperation, it is a parable of messing around.00:06:48
Therefore,00:06:49
if you already say this, you know, we are more00:06:52
like the Americans here, therefore the00:06:55
parameters are similar to the Americans00:06:57
because Russia is a country of00:07:00
extreme individualism00:07:03
Yes, these tales of Russian communalism They from00:07:08
my point of view, to a large extent,00:07:09
fairy tales because the Russian community, starting from the 16th century,00:07:12
but essentially from the00:07:15
16th century, was more and more an00:07:19
administrative unit with the help of00:07:21
which the state controlled taxes00:07:24
and peasants than a real phenomenon.00:07:26
Let’s come to the next question:00:07:30
how do you see how they can get along in00:07:32
one society? Those who does not accept this00:07:35
war but could not leave Russia and those00:07:38
who participated in this war and were covered00:07:40
in blood sooner or later, no matter00:07:43
how the war ends, the occupier will return00:07:45
home like ordinary people to live with them in00:07:47
the event of a regime change. Can we expect that00:07:49
all participants in this war Will00:07:51
Kara face criminal prosecution or is this from the00:07:54
realm of fantasy? Let's do two parts: will00:07:57
Kara be comprehended and how to get along with those who are00:08:00
against the war and did not leave and those00:08:05
who did not participate in the war; those who did not leave against the war will00:08:08
take a collective bus00:08:11
excursion to Germany and during these00:08:13
excursions they will understand exactly how00:08:15
they need to get along.00:08:17
So here00:08:19
they are Russia 1 is not Russia. Unfortunately, the00:08:22
last country in which00:08:26
such a split occurred and Yes, you need to be able to00:08:30
experience this, and yes, everyone will worry and00:08:32
remember. That is, this will leave the sphere00:08:36
actively in the Sphere of memory will00:08:40
flare up periodically, but if00:08:43
all the other problems are solved, then00:08:46
they will get along like nice ones, this will be00:08:51
a skid, it will be early and bleeding, it00:08:55
will constantly blaze like outbreaks of a virus.00:08:59
But in general, there will be some kind of00:09:02
compromise as for punishment,00:09:04
but unfortunately And fortunately, it’s not00:09:08
structured in such a way that00:09:09
these extreme points of view are00:09:13
usually cut off, and if someone lives00:09:16
the feeling that he is a Saint and that his mission is to00:09:21
punish all those who00:09:24
die. Well, it’s hard to live with it,00:09:27
because it’s never possible to00:09:30
punish everyone and there is no need for this00:09:32
And in general, if we are talking about the00:09:35
Christian tradition, but it is not necessary to00:09:37
believe, but nevertheless humanistic, then the00:09:41
main thing there is forgiveness and not Revenge, the00:09:44
question is who can forgive whom, who00:09:48
cannot be forgiven. That is, I think that00:09:50
everywhere there will always be a problem of the first00:09:53
disciples everywhere there will always be a problem of those00:09:55
who created this matrix of violence, but also a00:09:59
problem of those who lived within this matrix and00:10:02
behaved accordingly, and yes,00:10:05
accordingly there will be a need for00:10:09
those people who00:10:11
created this matrix of violence were the first00:10:15
students of those people will need to be00:10:17
brought to criminal liability00:10:20
or,00:10:23
relatively speaking, to00:10:25
what -this is a mechanism00:10:27
of illustration which, from my point of view,00:10:30
is justified only when it00:10:31
is a substitute for criminal00:10:33
liability, but in relation to all00:10:35
others. Rather, such a process will be a00:10:39
slow movement towards understanding00:10:42
repentance00:10:44
without considering it necessary to strive to00:10:47
punish someone in the first place, simply because and00:10:49
more00:10:50
such a strange situation will happen but00:10:53
try to punish a mass 10 times00:10:56
superior to00:11:01
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questions that are now being voiced00:11:36
Thank you Once again, a huge audience to00:11:38
our readers to our listeners for what they00:11:42
write, convey these questions Let's move on00:11:44
and Pastukhov keeps talking about00:11:48
adding to the question00:11:59
without the number of years in prison he came out became an00:12:03
icon00:12:05
came to power,00:12:07
don't forget that, in principle, the main00:12:10
thing he did was to serve time he’s00:12:13
not childish at all, even as far as I understand, it’s00:12:15
not 10 years old, but when he00:12:19
came out, he proposed the idea of civil00:12:22
assurance, in fact, with those who00:12:24
imprisoned him, and thus he created the conditions00:12:27
for this state to00:12:30
take place after the proteid, as it were00:12:33
the wisdom was not that he sat in00:12:35
prison and won, but his wisdom was00:12:38
that he was able to offer this00:12:41
compromise peace to a00:12:45
large extent on his own terms, but00:12:47
not only on his own, he was a compromise00:12:49
and Probably00:12:51
it was not easy and that’s what he00:12:55
was a man of legend Thanks to this00:12:57
imprisonment, it allowed him to do it, they didn’t00:13:00
trample on his own, but they couldn’t.00:13:04
She actually apparently is00:13:07
like Overcoming the00:13:12
Mandala, in my opinion, he served some00:13:14
completely unrealistic cannibalistic sentence00:13:16
there, something up to 27 years, in my opinion, the00:13:20
order is the order if we are mistaken the viewer,00:13:23
as always, will correct us The next question You00:13:25
always talk about the civil war,00:13:27
talking with friends and casual acquaintances00:13:30
in Moscow and the Moscow region, I don’t see any00:13:32
signs of war00:13:33
85% are people who either don’t care00:13:36
about everything or sing along with the00:13:39
TV, and what you see specifically is00:13:42
not war or a telepathic bow and the00:13:44
readiness of the people to fight, I would really like00:13:47
concrete examples of what this can00:13:48
look like in everyday life,00:13:50
indeed, the Russian state has such problems for00:13:56
many years in Russia, they cultivated as00:14:00
if apoliticality, this kind of00:14:02
amenity, from where now can it take up the00:14:05
fallen and the gap,00:14:07
you understand I I wrote in great detail about00:14:10
this Telegram channel, anyone can00:14:12
scroll there 4-5 days ago and00:14:16
read. But in a nutshell, there is a serious00:14:19
difference in the understanding that there is a00:14:22
Civil War in the philistine after the00:14:24
word in the cinema, something in this and the00:14:26
philosophical sense of the word, that is in the00:14:28
everyday sense of the word, a civil00:14:30
war is a movie by Chapaev, this is when00:14:33
checkers are already on your head, white here, a red00:14:37
river here, we swim here, we shoot, but in the00:14:41
philosophical sense of the word, a civil00:14:43
war is00:14:44
like disunity, a00:14:48
civil war, a philosophical word, is not a00:14:51
war of a party against a party, a gang against a00:14:53
gang of a clan against the clan, this is all00:14:57
secondary. This is a war of everyone against everyone, and00:15:00
such a Gopsovian state, and in general, in00:15:03
this sense, civil war is a00:15:05
natural state of society,00:15:07
and Civil Peace, on the contrary, is an artificial00:15:09
state that, in order to00:15:11
appear in a civil war, in00:15:13
principle, you don’t have to do anything,00:15:15
you just have to hate all your own people neighbors00:15:18
And believe me, if you00:15:20
look closely, you will find signs of00:15:23
such a civil war in Russia on00:15:25
everyone.00:15:26
That is, you are just looking at the wrong thing. That is,00:15:29
you are expecting that now the cart will come out onto00:15:31
Red Square and tra-ta-ta will00:15:34
shoot there, no,00:15:35
civil war is a charge00:15:40
Zvyagintsev’s dislike of00:15:42
a film that generally shocked me00:15:45
because I watched it very interestingly,00:15:52
it was shown in a British cinema and00:15:57
everyone watched it with subtitles,00:16:00
I have an advantage because00:16:06
they showed the film in Russian,00:16:15
everyone else00:16:18
for me, civil war, this is00:16:21
not love,00:16:24
today it is actually permeated the entire00:16:28
Russian society from top to bottom00:16:31
is a civil war, she is not loving their00:16:34
family, what to me in the civil world, she is00:16:37
in this readiness to give her00:16:40
children to be devoured about the war, she is00:16:45
incapable of00:16:47
believing goodness, that is, she is everywhere. Then00:16:50
she already00:16:52
at some point exists as00:16:55
the potential of an00:16:57
open violent armed00:16:59
conflict and the conditions it is at any moment is00:17:03
like potential genetic00:17:06
energy, we now have a civil00:17:09
war in a passive form. Like a00:17:14
barrel of00:17:17
gasoline from which there is evaporation, and00:17:20
from my point of view, enough00:17:23
matches will inaccurately bring00:17:27
We have now00:17:31
until00:17:33
the very authorities and it will be00:17:37
a cart will be everything else00:17:47
and understand that you exist00:17:52
once again already giving us film plans00:17:55
for Sunday evening friends if someone has00:17:58
n’t watched Zvyagin’s Dislike I highly00:17:59
recommend I join Vladimir Are00:18:02
you familiar with this abbreviation00:18:04
Vladimirovich as prb00:18:09
no unfamiliar Peter Roman Boris prb is00:18:14
now such a common acronym00:18:16
for the beautiful Russia of the future These are00:18:19
probably the final questions of this00:18:21
series of our short short sparring00:18:25
Elena asks 45 years Germany from your00:18:28
Ukraine how realistic are the dreams of a00:18:31
beautiful Russia of the future according to Seoul00:18:33
opposition or all Tarkovsky Kasparov00:18:35
who is not in Russia Navalny box00:18:37
Murzik who in Russia they are sitting near Seoul,00:18:40
they need to implement these changes and what the00:18:43
collective West can and should probably do so00:18:46
that Russia does not become North00:18:48
Korea, some kind of huge black hole,00:18:50
thanks in advance for the answer Elena00:18:55
That is, I am starting from the very end. That is, I00:18:59
generally think that the biggest division of00:19:01
all people as I thought now I think00:19:04
already from countries there is a division into two00:19:08
large cohorts there are people who from00:19:11
birth believe that they should have everything there are00:19:14
people who also from birth00:19:17
believe that they should everyone I00:19:20
unfortunately belong to the second category00:19:24
strange here is Russia here My homeland is00:19:29
cognitive dissonance, this is a country00:19:31
where the dominant emperor has always been00:19:34
what they owe00:19:37
their point of view, the first such sea00:19:40
is that no one owes Russia anything,00:19:43
the West doesn’t owe anything, the West00:19:46
thinks about itself and has the right to have its own00:19:49
problems enough, that is what does he00:19:52
think about Russia and how to make sure that00:19:54
Russia doesn’t [ __ ] in his pocket,00:19:59
and here the widespread point of view is00:20:02
that the West sleeps and sees Russia as if it were plants00:20:05
and feasts on some large00:20:08
piece.00:20:09
I think that00:20:13
here too there is such an amazing coincidence00:20:15
between Patrushev Putin’s riflemen So it00:20:18
seems to everyone that00:20:20
they live in some kind of terrible00:20:24
Gorky at the bottom where all around them there are only00:20:26
plants, in fact,00:20:29
no one cares about this here, that is, naturally00:20:30
everyone, humanly, wants to profit from each other at the expense of00:20:35
Russia if she is on00:20:38
her own this will allow Why not, but there is00:20:40
no such desire, that is, no one cares about00:20:43
it,00:20:44
and thank God, so Let’s start with the fact that00:20:46
no one owes Russia anything and it00:20:49
must dig itself out there on its own00:20:52
now, as for the future, but in general I find it00:20:55
difficult to believe in myself that some00:20:57
individual personality, a collective of individuals, a00:20:59
club of Russian provincials, a circle of00:21:02
urban00:21:03
dreamers,00:21:05
they can take something else and provide00:21:09
Russia with some kind of future, a00:21:12
mass process. I think that we are talking00:21:15
more00:21:16
about some kind of00:21:21
global movement of00:21:27
Russians or the increase is00:21:29
responsible for the side of understanding00:21:32
that some kind of repentance happened to them and00:21:34
not in these 20 but in the00:21:38
last, say, 100 years of what00:21:42
happened because I see the root of the evil,00:21:45
strictly speaking, including back in00:21:49
1917. In this disruption of 1822, we00:21:53
are paying for that, that is, yes If the Elite00:21:57
can internally digest what00:22:01
happened to it, to some extent00:22:04
rethink its place of role,00:22:06
the responsibility to raise its children,00:22:11
Russia will have certain00:22:13
prospects, and not immediately.00:22:15
I have an older friend who in00:22:20
2015 there 8 swam in the00:22:23
aisle, argued a lot and talked about this00:22:27
future is wonderful, the00:22:36
Russia of the future is00:22:40
such, you know, pioneering enthusiasm can be heard in this,00:22:42
but I believe in myself in a normal00:22:45
Russia of the future, that is, yes, with its00:22:47
problems with difficulties in trying to00:22:51
find its place in history, the global00:22:54
division of labor,00:22:55
that is, this is the kind of Russia I believe if we are00:22:59
talking about Russia our children is00:23:02
hardly visible, we are talking00:23:05
about the Russia of our grandchildren, taking into account the fact that00:23:07
if we can preserve it,00:23:09
the prospects are much better because it is,00:23:12
in general, a country with decent human00:23:14
natural capital,00:23:16
that is,00:23:18
theoretically, nothing prevents it from becoming a00:23:22
more or less normal society for00:23:25
this doesn’t require saviors,00:23:27
this doesn’t require heroes, this requires00:23:32
such serious cultural work by00:23:34
everyone on themselves00:23:38
nrb normal Russia of the future It00:23:41
seems to me a completely00:23:44
workable competitive00:23:46
concept Well, we’re done with the warm-up00:23:49
Let’s move on to the main part00:23:54
[music]00:23:58
right at this moment the votes are being counted00:24:00
in Turkey it is already clear,00:24:03
we can say for sure that00:24:06
the data published by the opposition and00:24:10
official sources differs Look at00:24:14
this position of the People's00:24:15
Republican Party after processing00:24:17
20 percent of00:24:19
Erdogan's records 46 and 46 and 65 hundredths of a00:24:25
percent00:24:26
accounting for the stew of the described candidate00:24:30
47-63 a slight advantage But this is still00:24:34
since, according to the opposition, the official00:24:38
figures sound like this Erdogan 55 percent and00:24:43
three hundredths the00:24:44
road 39 percent more than 2000:24:49
percent of00:24:51
the votes have been counted It seems to me that these elections in00:24:54
Turkey were read by the author of the article in00:24:59
many ways unique because for00:25:01
the first time the opposition seems to00:25:03
have some chance00:25:06
to resist Erdogan Whose control00:25:09
is by the age of 20, he was the00:25:12
president and prime minister of the country. What do you00:25:16
think?00:25:17
How can00:25:19
the situation develop further? What are we waiting for and perhaps there00:25:24
really is a change of Erdogan in this in00:25:27
this in this chosen cycle,00:25:30
my heart honestly won’t sing00:25:32
because in fact the elections in00:25:36
Turkey, from my point of view, is such a00:25:39
key turning point in the00:25:44
fate of00:25:46
European history in the00:25:51
coming years, and00:25:53
this is such a serious moment because00:25:56
Turkey has now turned out to be a stumbling block for the00:26:00
most diverse00:26:03
forces of Russia, the United States of America,00:26:06
Europe, there are forces in the Middle East, and00:26:10
Erdogan is the person who very00:26:15
much, let's say, he changed the trajectory of00:26:19
Turkish foreign policy, which00:26:22
at least we saw forward after the00:26:24
Second World War and before he came to00:26:27
power,00:26:29
and he is trying to carry out this,00:26:33
as if again expansionist courses, taking enough00:26:36
courses to00:26:40
rebuild Turkey as a00:26:43
country with ambitions to be quite00:26:48
broad00:26:49
influence between regional let's say that00:26:53
what Turkey just refused during the00:26:55
revolution is the Turk when she withdrew into00:26:57
herself when she considered that attempts00:26:59
to create any kind of empire are00:27:02
sucking the juices out of00:27:04
herself and that she00:27:10
said to chop off her imperial00:27:13
limbs in order to00:27:15
focus on herself And now the process00:27:18
was going in reverse, and within the framework of this reverse00:27:21
process, Turkey tried00:27:23
to play on the contradiction between the West and Russia00:27:27
to take the place of such a00:27:29
super mediator,00:27:31
while moving away from the West, approaching00:27:34
Russia and actually occupying a00:27:36
colossally important place for Moscow00:27:40
as such but essentially one one of the00:27:43
most00:27:44
attractive hubs with the help of which00:27:47
Moscow avoids isolation00:27:52
All this has now been called into question,00:27:55
that is, it is not just about some00:27:59
internal Turkish issues, that is,00:28:02
it is really about what role00:28:05
this country will play in the future and on00:28:07
whose side the main thing is it will play00:28:08
on several large political chess boards at once. The00:28:15
next question that worries me00:28:18
is, in a sense, the general testing of00:28:20
all these,00:28:22
let’s say, democracies that00:28:26
go beyond the00:28:28
power of democratic regimes that00:28:31
are in Europe and America, and it’s00:28:37
not how many people will vote that I00:28:40
physically can’t do yet00:28:43
imagine that Erdogan,00:28:47
with any result,00:28:53
and if this happens, if it00:28:57
really happens there, the Transit of power will be00:28:59
more or less peaceful, then I will00:29:02
consider it as a political miracle.00:29:04
And in general, then I will reconsider a lot of00:29:08
my00:29:10
views from the00:29:13
demosketic Dima will become an optimist00:29:16
while I said it’s very difficult for myself00:29:19
imagine that in any case,00:29:23
Erdogan will agree to leave this power to00:29:27
the winner to choose from,00:29:29
including because the degree of00:29:33
fusion of the00:29:35
economy and power in Turkey is quite00:29:39
comparable with the00:29:41
best Russian00:29:43
examples, that is, in general, the00:29:47
Erdogan family in the broad sense of the word00:29:49
controls a lot and care from00:29:54
the authorities this is no longer only a matter of politics.00:29:56
This is a00:29:57
significant and economic issue, that00:30:01
is, the loss of power there. I am afraid that this is a00:30:06
loss of more00:30:09
and, accordingly, what will he00:30:12
do next, that is,00:30:14
well, the first is00:30:18
the technology named after Churov00:30:21
Chur me, that is, an attempt00:30:26
so that no one recognizes the real ones00:30:28
results of the elections,00:30:30
you actually already00:30:32
hinted that these discrepancies have begun,00:30:35
that is, to say that both sides00:30:38
believe that it is beneficial for them to00:30:42
recognize this and not recognize00:30:45
the result,00:30:46
while it is more or less clear that the00:30:50
split in society is not just 50/50, but00:30:54
close to this border, that always makes00:30:56
the situation even more explosive further00:31:02
when it is clear that we will fall to the side00:31:06
with a high degree of probability that both00:31:09
sides will00:31:11
dispute this result, if this is the case,00:31:13
then it is not entirely clear to me what00:31:17
tools the opposition has in00:31:21
order to force Erdogan’s side00:31:25
to admit defeat, your numbers00:31:29
if this will happen At this stage it00:31:31
will be super00:31:32
if, after all, when he says that he00:31:37
won, the result that you voiced to00:31:41
the opposition will be a different opinion, that is,00:31:44
what will be the next step, but00:31:47
apparently this will spill out into the form of00:31:52
civil disobedience, while we00:31:55
understand that he has fully concentrated his00:31:57
hands quite powerful by the authorities already after the00:32:01
previous attempt after the gate of the00:32:03
essential image is weakened, that is, with a00:32:08
high probability we can say that the00:32:11
Civil Protest will most likely not yield00:32:15
results if there is another political00:32:20
miracle further00:32:24
[music]00:32:29
the choice will00:32:32
presumably be won by the oppositionist the00:32:35
result will be rigged the civil00:32:38
process will fail then the following will act00:32:41
the law is that if the Revolution wins,00:32:43
then the revolution becomes much00:32:46
more severe, that is, then in this00:32:49
situation there will be a00:32:51
significant failure in the00:32:55
historical development of Turkey, I assume00:32:57
that00:32:59
this will be very similar to what00:33:02
happened in Belarus. When in the00:33:06
nineteenth year00:33:08
they took place, evolution led to00:33:11
that then all the gray zones began to be noticed as00:33:15
black from00:33:16
such a basic mystical point of view00:33:20
and at the same time there is00:33:24
some hope that the institution knows how to00:33:27
defend itself and in Turkey there is some difference00:33:30
with Russia it is strange as it may seem that00:33:34
democratic institutions00:33:37
still acted a little longer00:33:41
Let there be a break and secondly, there was a00:33:44
certain culture of the00:33:46
political role of a separate army; to what00:33:49
extent this culture has been exhausted the00:33:52
events of the last 20 years or not00:33:55
remains to be seen in the coming days. And now00:33:57
this last question can be asked about the00:34:00
ability or inability of the army00:34:03
to play an independent role00:34:05
as a democracy in this case00:34:09
the most interesting thing00:34:11
you know, I still doubly support00:34:15
the opposition in Turkey this time because00:34:19
we managed to consolidate and make a00:34:22
single platform there, in my opinion, out of six00:34:25
parties that, as a whole,00:34:28
never had anything in common with themselves and that’s what you00:34:33
think Can it be effective00:34:36
Is is this important and is it worth it for our00:34:40
oppositions to00:34:45
follow Turkey’s unification elections from this point of view with this lens,00:34:49
well, from my point of view, this is generally the00:34:51
only service in which such a00:34:55
deep, heavy dictatorship can00:34:57
somehow be moved from a dead point00:35:00
because then A, actually any00:35:04
dictatorship strives to ensure that00:35:06
no such accusation ever00:35:08
occurs, and we actually saw00:35:12
again an example from Belarus that then in00:35:15
maximum situations it was all the00:35:18
amazing ability of the00:35:22
Belarusian oppositionists, most00:35:25
of whom were already in prison,00:35:26
to agree that Svetlana00:35:29
Tikhonovskaya is the wife of one of the00:35:32
detainees presidential candidates will be00:35:35
represented by all the people who were00:35:37
not really very friendly with each other,00:35:41
we saw this led to what a00:35:44
stunning result now it00:35:46
doesn’t matter what then in the second stage00:35:50
what I’m now trying to00:35:52
model in relation to Turkey but00:35:55
we saw But how far it00:35:57
has advanced00:35:58
and it would have advanced further, but in general the00:36:02
Belarusian position underestimated the00:36:05
regime’s readiness for violence and itself00:36:08
was not psychologically ready for00:36:10
revolutionary violence, so it lost a lot.00:36:14
Therefore, yes, these are the key conditions, these are the00:36:16
key conditions, such lessons that they are00:36:20
Elementary00:36:21
We remember very well from the times of the00:36:24
Velvet Revolution the00:36:26
end of the last century in Eastern Europe, the00:36:30
creation of people's fronts,00:36:32
round tables and so on, they had their own00:36:35
technologies, but we remember not only we00:36:38
understand the people who today00:36:40
manage the political process in Russia.00:36:44
They also remember this, therefore the main00:36:46
game is to ensure that nothing like this00:36:49
happens,00:36:50
this is not the second time you give a very convenient00:36:54
pass to the feet regarding Belarus I can’t help but00:36:58
ask you this question00:37:00
Lukashenko was lost in the know did not appear00:37:03
in public00:37:05
Well, I was in the know, of course, I considered all the00:37:09
reports and it’s detailed, as it were Now00:37:14
the technology allows you to see a lot of things,00:37:17
not everyone wants What they saw and here’s a conversation with00:37:21
Putin about how he seemed to explain the00:37:23
essence00:37:24
out of form and how he was given an00:37:28
electric car there by the security service so that00:37:30
it would be 100 m to get there. Well, then, like00:37:33
today, I00:37:36
’ll make a short remark in the margins on Sunday, the fifth day00:37:39
when the head of Belarus did not appear in00:37:42
public, the day of the flag of Belarus is a big00:37:45
important holiday for Lukashenko. And00:37:47
last year, in my opinion, he gave a00:37:49
uh, voluminous, weighty speech there for 20 minutes.00:37:53
Now the premiere was speaking. Lukashenko00:37:56
disappeared, please continue, well,00:37:58
look, I have to say that people00:38:02
are sick00:38:03
and I didn’t Well, from all this,00:38:09
build some far-reaching00:38:11
cosmetic conclusions. These people get sick,00:38:14
it happens.00:38:16
People get better. I understand that our00:38:19
affairs, not everyone wants this from Lukashenko. But00:38:21
people get sick and get better, so00:38:23
let’s wait for the results, that is, it is00:38:26
clear that if something00:38:28
happens to Lukashenko, this there will be such a00:38:30
hemorrhoidal situation for the Kremlin00:38:34
Because now is not the time or place00:38:37
to change anything,00:38:38
but they can try to win in this situation,00:38:42
of course,00:38:43
because they will try to, in00:38:49
fact, install00:38:51
such a very00:38:52
convenient technical, I would say,00:38:55
president But who are there ideally Well00:38:59
What can ideally be done is to00:39:02
announce that Belarus is entering into a00:39:05
special military operation on the side of00:39:09
Russia and, relatively speaking, to give the opportunity to00:39:17
form a certain number of assault brigades00:39:20
from00:39:21
Belarusians in order to ease the00:39:24
funeral burden on root Russia.00:39:28
Well, the next question is the following:00:39:30
such moments are always not such an open00:39:34
game is not at the moment of00:39:38
vulnerability That is, it’s00:39:43
unclear how Naruto’s mass will react to something00:39:49
and That is, you can count on the fact that it will00:39:54
eat it, then And it can happen So00:39:56
in general something will spread, we00:40:00
saw how they arose in the east these are00:40:05
the revolutions there of the last decades Everything is00:40:09
quiet calm then a00:40:11
guy burns some tea shop for himself in the market from how they00:40:14
replaced00:40:17
it can never be ruled out Therefore, on the one00:40:20
hand, there will even be a certain00:40:23
difference from such an00:40:25
ever-bargaining Lukashenko with whom00:40:30
you will get two more for every grieving vitamin the00:40:35
answer is that he00:40:36
takes vitamins about small services,00:40:40
somehow they are always dangerous, of00:40:45
course there is a desire to change it to00:40:49
because there is Sir and but there is a huge00:40:53
risk that00:40:56
someone will burn themselves out on the market, so00:41:00
we’ll see, but I haven’t done it yet. It00:41:05
seems to me that these rumors about00:41:07
Lukashenko’s serious illness may be greatly00:41:09
exaggerated, our chat is buzzing, it’s just that00:41:13
everyone is worried about this topic, of course,00:41:16
Vladimirovich, a short question, another one00:41:19
about Belarus, let’s move on,00:41:20
in fact, I have such, you know,00:41:22
as they say, flashbacks of 2020 and00:41:25
that question worried me then and now00:41:28
too What do you think? Can Belarus00:41:30
become a kind of springboard from which a00:41:33
wave of changes will begin that will00:41:36
reach Russia,00:41:40
but theoretically Yes,00:41:43
because any of these societies are like00:41:47
communicating vessels, in fact, and the00:41:50
problems of Ukraine largely consisted in the fact00:41:52
that when00:41:54
the process went there like said Gorbachev,00:41:58
they went strong not in the fourteenth year,00:42:00
but in the fourth,00:42:01
it was perceived as a forest fire.00:42:06
This is the feeling that if you don’t put00:42:10
Paranoia through these lines00:42:15
and don’t even let00:42:18
the contract go, then it might spread to00:42:23
Belarus even more difficult because00:42:25
Belarus is quite closely00:42:27
integrated For all that Moreover, And in general,00:42:30
it exists as a kind of example. Therefore, yes,00:42:33
it00:42:34
would be a headache and00:42:38
it would work a lot, as you understand, even00:42:41
on a subconscious level, there is,00:42:45
now I’m not talking about all the00:42:46
geopolitical tensions there, because00:42:48
this is a rather00:42:50
important tooth sticking out towards00:42:52
the West, but actually Let's start with00:42:56
the most basic; there is the most00:42:59
important radar station for Russia, the00:43:04
loss of which, well, practically00:43:07
makes Russia unprotected,00:43:11
so I When I read a long time ago in detail00:43:14
an article by Maxim Shevchenko many years ago,00:43:17
from which I realized that this is not even00:43:21
Ukraine. That is, Belarus has00:43:23
its teeth in it there is most likely it00:43:28
will require a direct year of troops there and if00:43:34
Russia still gets bogged down in addition to the Ukrainian00:43:36
front on the Belarusian front But this00:43:39
will be such a cosplay of some kind of00:43:41
Great Patriotic War00:43:44
and then in general this is a swamp in00:43:48
which everyone will drown the most unsuccessful00:43:51
cosplay Well from Belarus let's00:43:55
go back to our sheep Let's go back Prigozhin and00:43:57
the Ministry of Defense another round of misunderstanding00:44:00
but the headline with you brought out the phrase00:44:02
Prigozhin no one is writing I will explain00:44:05
the news to our viewers literally this00:44:07
weekend Prigozhin sent a letter to Shoigu00:44:11
and00:44:12
adjutant Prigozhin with this letter with00:44:15
this message in the new luxurious00:44:18
building of the Ministry of Defense on Frunzenskaya00:44:21
embankment in Moscow opposite00:44:23
Gorky Park was not accepted was not allowed in did not pass the00:44:25
face control dress code I don’t know what and let me00:44:29
remind you that this week Prigozhin00:44:32
threatened to leave bakhmud bakhmut I apologize on the00:44:36
10th Well, actually, on May 9 it didn’t00:44:41
take place, you can’t bang If you’re00:44:43
following behind Prigogine's Telegram channel,00:44:45
with enviable tenacity the head of the dude00:44:49
Wagner reports there every evening about00:44:52
new square meters that the00:44:56
dude Wagner manages to capture in such a boring and00:44:59
very creaky voice for the evening of May 14,00:45:05
PMC Wagner remains to capture00:45:09
50 square meters in a hornet's nest,00:45:15
forgive me my acting talents00:45:18
question Next Why Prigozhin00:45:22
never left Bakhmut Although he was assigned a00:45:24
curator with his parents, nothing happens with the so-00:45:27
called shell hunger00:45:30
and you see already publicly it’s as00:45:33
if00:45:35
Shoigu is receiving and the consequence of this from Putin Putin00:45:39
does not comment on his statement about his00:45:41
shell hunger and says The Kremlin is not in00:45:43
the know, contact other authorities.00:45:48
Listen, I do00:45:51
n’t have any that could explain to me00:45:56
this irrational from my00:45:58
point of view, completely from all points00:45:59
of view of history.00:46:01
I here agree with another player. On this00:46:05
temporary field, the riflemen that certainly00:46:08
Prigozhin relies on one of the branches00:46:13
of the fighting on one of the claws, I would say a00:46:21
Russian octopus, confused and struggling with itself.00:46:24
It is clear that to some extent he00:46:28
relies on some forces of the presidential administration, the00:46:34
shooters Kiriyenko relies00:46:37
on the Kovalchuks, maybe I’m not sure about this, he00:46:44
certainly relies on00:46:46
[music]00:46:48
possibility periodically meet with00:46:50
Putin, but nevertheless, you know, about00:46:52
two months ago he officially met with00:46:55
Putin, that is, some kind of signal, by the way, and00:46:57
after this meeting with Putin, this00:46:59
public activity began to flow00:47:03
out like this. If you look up00:47:06
the archives there, you will find, relatively speaking,00:47:09
what - a while ago, a message about their00:47:12
personal meeting After which00:47:14
he actually began to play such a00:47:18
buffoon in front of the King of himself because00:47:22
he is allowed to talk a lot, in00:47:25
such a buffoon’s cap,00:47:30
I can think anything to Prigogine00:47:34
except for one thing, he doesn’t impress me at all00:47:37
fool,00:47:40
we can talk as much as we like about the fact00:47:43
that the world is divided into00:47:47
criminal and non-criminal, one of the00:47:50
laws of all people00:47:52
[music]00:47:53
for whom00:47:56
criminal00:48:03
is certainly a significant enough00:48:07
Russian society for which00:48:09
criminal00:48:13
and by the way I must say that in order to00:48:15
have this criminal00:48:17
mentality absolutely you don’t have to sit in00:48:21
prison,00:48:22
go through the spotlight, and so on, in00:48:24
general, an Academician of the Academy of Sciences, at the same time,00:48:27
have an absolutely criminal00:48:29
mentality in Russia, so this is a question of00:48:32
culture, not a question of imprisonment, not a question of00:48:35
what you have recorded00:48:38
statistical data there, so he is00:48:42
certainly Yes, I am a pronounced person00:48:45
criminal mentality But this does not00:48:48
mean that they don’t have talents. Be healthy,00:48:51
how much he has, and among these00:48:55
talents, conservation is in a00:48:58
completely normal place.00:49:00
Let’s see the option in which00:49:03
Prigozhin, in general, before the start of this00:49:08
war, considered business his main business in life00:49:13
and that’s all00:49:15
This is a mess he got into too, he’s making money on this00:49:27
and00:49:31
he was never going to bet it all to00:49:34
lose.00:49:37
That is, he must rely on something if00:49:40
he opposes the Ministry of Defense00:49:44
against Gerasimova Shoigu at the same time00:49:48
behaves as if the spirit of Navalny Rifle entered into him At the same time, you00:49:56
somehow00:49:58
listen and fail, he is00:50:02
counting on something. What does he even mean? He is00:50:05
more aware than we are of the00:50:08
tension that has reached the relationship between00:50:11
different clans.00:50:14
We, due to our remoteness, are the cauldron00:50:17
that is brewing Russian politics. We, in00:50:21
general, cannot feel here00:50:23
some kind of inner knowledge is necessary, he00:50:26
sees, he feels, he understands that he is playing00:50:29
on someone’s side, and then whose side00:50:32
he is playing on is00:50:34
powerful enough to00:50:38
prevent him from being devoured by00:50:40
this Powerful man is so00:50:43
powerful that00:50:45
even the Minister of Defense and the boss cannot imprison him00:50:48
of the General Staff,00:50:50
but frankly, this shows that the00:50:53
army itself is a hostage in this war,00:50:57
I can assume that, unlike00:51:01
how Gerasimov is trying to present00:51:04
the trumpet-patriot,00:51:07
apparently he is So00:51:11
much idiot00:51:14
when he is now trying to00:51:17
advertise, if we talk about00:51:20
Gerasimov’s assessment, then00:51:22
I was signed up here. the assessment00:51:25
that he was given of the pledged00:51:27
territory00:51:32
now I don’t remember the same thing to raise, it was00:51:35
very interesting that he00:51:37
always has Gerasimov’s textbook on his table00:51:40
because he learned to read it from00:51:46
very capable00:51:49
articles and the teacher. Well, that00:51:52
is, considering00:51:55
how00:51:58
competent the armed forces of Ukraine00:52:00
are to all absolutely points in a00:52:04
weak position they are waging this war. I believe00:52:07
that the markup is much more00:52:10
worthy of attention than the assessment00:52:13
given by such a major military specialist00:52:15
Prigozhin and even such a major00:52:18
military leader of the Federal00:52:20
Security Service as Strelkov00:52:22
wanted to have its own logic. But about this00:52:26
separately, it is more political than00:52:29
that. Gerasim puts forward big00:52:32
claims that are actually Hiroshima00:52:36
and Shumka and, as it were, plays a transferable00:52:38
fool. They can simply redirect.00:52:40
Then he will play claims on00:52:43
issues that do not resolve or do00:52:45
not resolve the issue of transferring Russia00:52:49
into a mode of total war of00:52:51
general mobilization In the rear at the front And00:52:54
In general, call this war a war or God00:52:57
Why are there others here?00:53:01
I believe that we are Prigogine based on this behavior.00:53:05
So far, one can only judge00:53:08
that there is a split, but it depends on the split,00:53:12
as if the Elite is just Everyone was waiting for this00:53:14
split within the Elite as between00:53:18
people and brought good, but it turned out that00:53:23
somewhere an armored vehicle will be arrested between, say,00:53:27
tyrannosaurs and pterodacters00:53:30
But this is of course not so pleasant, this is also00:53:35
at the end of our program a question about00:53:39
Bastrykin about his initiative It00:53:42
seems to me that this news was somewhat00:53:43
underestimated, this news passed before00:53:46
the question, friends Thank you for00:53:48
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constantly urging you to like our00:54:04
broadcast with Vladimir But this way00:54:06
our audience is simply growing for you it’s easy for us it’s00:54:09
really important This is Mr.00:54:11
Bastrykin speaking at a forum in00:54:13
St. Petersburg International00:54:16
Legal Forum and came up with the00:54:19
initiative to nationalize the main00:54:21
sectors of the economy00:54:23
earlier, the head of VTB Kostin said on the contrary00:54:27
that privatization is necessary, but however in the00:54:30
Kremlin the words of the bones then00:54:33
found special support Peskov was asked about00:54:35
this by mothers where it’s interesting but for now somehow it’s00:54:37
not timely But Bastrykin’s idea00:54:41
What do you think It might come to court after00:54:44
all in wartime, he practically talks about it himself,00:54:47
we are essentially talking00:54:49
about economic security in00:54:51
war conditions, by the way, you already see yours somehow and00:54:54
no. Already in the background it has gone away,00:54:56
this idea00:54:59
asks for submissions, I of course00:55:01
spent the day today because00:55:06
this question and I, as now, scrupulously00:55:09
listened to 37 minutes of00:55:13
Mr. Bastykin’s speech at the00:55:15
legal Youth International00:55:18
level in St. Petersburg, by the way, I00:55:20
recommend it to everyone because it is such a purer spectacle00:55:24
and00:55:26
because I I must say on this occasion00:55:29
that everything must be taken in context,00:55:33
that this cannot be regulated there, he has00:55:35
exclusively00:55:42
shown some kind of anomalous political public activity for the00:55:45
head of a law enforcement agency for the00:55:50
last say two months,00:55:54
and this again suggests that there are00:55:58
some processes00:56:00
that we have witnessed we are not, but00:56:02
the people who live inside the boiler00:56:05
feel this rise in temperature and00:56:07
understand that they must go beyond the00:56:10
usual stereotypes and what they00:56:13
should do.00:56:15
Secondly, I must say that in principle00:56:18
we know that this is00:56:20
not the first time Bastykin has been in a00:56:23
critical situation they come out00:56:26
to the front row from the back of the hall00:56:29
because I remember very well that00:56:32
when there was a00:56:33
critical situation like that of the00:56:38
revolutionary party00:56:42
of 10-14, then the00:56:45
last requests00:56:47
are sitting You have to defend yourself00:56:51
Because we have a president alone on the beam00:56:54
Tver is closing all of you This00:56:58
suggests that, apparently, this is00:57:00
especially true for that very00:57:03
formalized and inner close00:57:07
circle of us, as it were, such rings. That00:57:10
is, we have a distant Circle, a close00:57:12
friend. That’s who00:57:15
we don’t see and who actually is.00:57:21
determines the real, that is, there is00:57:25
state policy for it, there is00:57:29
Mishustin’s war,00:57:31
Sobyanin Kiriyenko, all such very important00:57:36
people, in fact, from their point of view,00:57:38
who perform Well, as usual,00:57:40
technical such functions00:57:42
are some kind of very internal circle00:57:45
that forms the00:57:47
value system of the president and00:57:51
then, as it were, this somehow00:57:54
leaks00:57:56
out through the president, so in order to leave it, he must00:58:00
be such a person, and so he00:58:04
put forward several ideas that, from my00:58:08
point of view, are00:58:09
not his personal ideas, but some00:58:12
ideas of this, let’s call him a00:58:15
secret Politburo00:58:19
there, in fact. This is what it is.00:58:21
nationalization is not key,00:58:22
that is, to carry it out so wisely brings out00:58:25
the idea that it’s time to end with theater00:58:28
and,00:58:29
in principle,00:58:31
even in this truncated form,00:58:35
this Constitution is simply beginning to00:58:38
resemble a shoe that presses on all00:58:41
sides, forming calluses in all places.00:58:44
Therefore, he said that we need to return to00:58:48
the state ideology00:58:51
needs to be removed, this sacred00:58:55
second part of the first part of the Constitution needs to be restored, the00:58:58
Orthodoxy of peoples must be restored, power,00:59:01
Orthodoxy, autocracy, nationality, as a00:59:04
matter of fact,00:59:09
in relation to Russia, then, accordingly, it is00:59:11
necessary to actually return it, and he hints at this,00:59:15
and the main interesting00:59:19
point is that he is trying to00:59:21
cross the horror with a hedgehog that is, he is not alone.00:59:24
That is, he is trying to cross two00:59:26
periods of Russian despotic history, that00:59:29
is, Imperial and Communist, and00:59:32
therefore I want to baptize the00:59:35
autocracy of the people and Orthodoxy with00:59:38
communism and state00:59:40
property and social00:59:43
[music] the00:59:45
general impression is the first00:59:50
and it is clear that what he says absolutely00:59:53
reflects the part significantly00:59:57
some of the views Not everyone is absolutely like this, but01:00:00
some of the people there are aged 8001:00:03
plus they are definitely really stuck01:00:07
in this time and in general it is impossible to01:00:12
convince them they would like to hear only this01:00:15
second I have to say it’s like we do01:00:18
n’t have to go into detail I really they01:00:21
often ask if I would like01:00:24
Russia to lose in this war01:00:26
and I kind of01:00:29
explain some position. I01:00:33
can now say for sure that I’m probably complaining about the01:00:36
defeat of the01:00:38
war to Mishustina about this war with01:00:42
dinosaurs01:00:44
because the Dog is in a lot of pain,01:00:49
I see01:00:54
the head of the Central Bank01:00:59
Administration back there.01:01:03
it seems that this will greatly speed up all01:01:06
the processes of torment01:01:08
will end much faster than they could01:01:11
historically01:01:13
The worse the better01:01:15
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Программа «Чисто конкретная политика» с Владимиром Пастуховым каждое воскресенье в 19:00 московского, киевского и вильнюсского времени в прямом эфире на канале Ходорковский Live! В этом выпуске политолог Владимир Пастухов и журналист Дмитрий Еловский обсуждают следующие темы: - Председатель Следственного комитета Александр Бастрыкин предложил национализировать основные отрасли экономики - Сотрудник Пригожина не смог передать письмо Сергею Шойгу из-за личного запрета главы Минобороны РФ - Выборы в Турции — чего ждать в случае проигрыша Эрдогана - Лукашенко не появляется на публике с 9 мая — что случилось? Ютуб-канал «Пастуховская Кухня»: @pastukhov_kitchen Телеграм-канал Владимира Пастухова: https://t.me/v_pastukhov Телеграм-канал Дмитрия Еловского: https://t.me/delovsky Таймкоды: 00:00 Начало 00:52 Вопросы зрителей. На какое гражданское общество равняться России? 07:27 Как обычным людям жить рядом с ветеранами «СВО» 13:24 Есть ли предпосылки для гражданской войны в России? 18:02 Что нужно, чтобы Россия стала «Нормальной Россией Будущего» 23:57 Выборы в Турции. Чего ждать? 34:11 Как в Турции объединилась оппозиция — пример для России? 36:57 Лукашенко не появляется на публике с 9 мая — что случилось? 43:52 «Пригожин производит впечатление дурака» 49:00 «Армия России — заложник этой войны» 54:10 «Бастрыкин продвигает идеи тайного политбюро» 1:01:20 Конец Предыдущий выпуск: Пригожин получит свое. Покушение на Прилепина. Кадыров наехал на «Вагнер» | https://www.youtube.com/live/Bi5dT29YUek ХОДОРКОВСКИЙ и ПАСТУХОВ: Россия между внешней и внутренней войной. Почему Запад все время опаздывал https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoSkD7m-DQs ШЕНДЕРОВИЧ: Пригожин — серьезная политическая сила. Сын Пескова. Палец Кортнева. Стукачи Путина https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SeJR_qPtqQ ИНОЗЕМЦЕВ: Расходы России — на пике. Налог на «удалёнку». Санкции кончились. Рекорд LVMH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EK4XHntkzU АЛЕКСАШЕНКО: «Газпрому» — конец. Заводы в России закроются. ChatGPT против человечества https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwRTsJ-K4eQ КРУТИХИН: «Газпром» повысит цены в России. G7 против «Росатома». Казахстан получит газ за бесценок / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwDW4uFm3tI ПАСТУХОВ: Как пройти между струй? Новые элиты? Откуда ненависть к Украине? Вопросы зрителей https://www.youtube.com/live/an854QZSLIQ АСЛАНЯН: Путин и Toyota. АвтоВАЗ сдался. Шварценеггер кладет асфальт. Выставка «Техно-Классика» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlP9GxoghUQ Дмитрий БЫКОВ: Единый реестр всего, парады, повестки, Гагарин, госизмена и казнь https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zTYp0zb4dU ============================= Блог Михаила Ходорковского: https://www.youtube.com/user/khodorkovskyru =============================
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