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Israel, unfortunately, once again they say to00:04:18
bear this out, they say they have closed00:04:20
entry to Ukrainians without visas, they00:04:22
stopped it, it turns out it’s absurd that if00:04:25
any person, a citizen of Russia,00:04:27
supposedly wants to eat now, he has no00:04:31
questions, the sailors can come, but from Ukraine00:04:34
they want Jews to come to Israel, it’s00:04:36
a problem for him must submit an application in advance,00:04:39
you will receive an answer, which does not always00:04:41
work out on time, besides, as a child, you00:04:45
want to make hookah if you come00:04:47
for permanent residence in Israel, they gave it directly to me, it00:04:50
seems to me that this is a very, very wrong00:04:52
approach and that’s why very few Jews00:04:55
went to Israel,00:04:56
that’s why Israel when they say about00:04:58
the numbers, how many people came, they00:05:00
combine Russia and Ukraine,00:05:03
so Israel does not talk about the fact that from00:05:05
Russia the things that came 3500:05:07
percent took their passport or money back to00:05:11
Russia, they can come they00:05:14
have other problems, but Ukraine is00:05:16
difficult now, yes, Jews don’t feel like going to Israel let's say to00:05:19
that00:05:22
warmth and00:05:24
frankness the opening of the heart that00:05:26
we would like it to be, well, it’s a very pity a lot of a00:05:29
lot of Jews went to00:05:32
Germany and others but Israel is small how do00:05:36
they explain this to you why this is00:05:37
happening they don’t explain to us they00:05:40
wrote a letter called a conversation00:05:42
personality minister of diaspora we We had a00:05:46
lot of conversations, unfortunately, they00:05:48
don’t seem to me that this is just because of the00:05:50
weakness of the current00:05:53
Israeli government, there is a very weak government, there is no00:05:55
leadership, it was created from different00:05:59
breakaway parties, which are different small00:06:01
parties that no one there has the strength00:06:03
to make a decision, he said, well, this is how it00:06:06
should be and we suffer from this, we00:06:10
suffer, that is, the Jew of Ukraine suffers,00:06:13
you said that at the same time you can come for permanent residence,00:06:16
but why exactly this scheme at00:06:19
first thought that Israel wants the topic of a00:06:21
grant, this is a country of immigrants, they want00:06:24
if we grant you, please00:06:25
welcome, but they did not00:06:27
make migrants special conditions now which a00:06:30
week earlier for example in the 90s00:06:32
when there00:06:33
was a big exodus very large00:06:36
Soviet Union in the 90s they didn’t00:06:40
do that they didn’t that is no doesn’t show00:06:42
which00:06:44
opportunity to welcome well there is still00:06:46
a lot but I00:06:48
hate to talk about it as I00:06:50
told you it’s unpleasant a little ashamed,00:06:52
but mine too, I can you have to say this, they00:06:55
need to talk about it, but to think that00:06:57
that Ezra wow, they are the people who come there00:07:00
and how they get high there, it’s not like that, but the00:07:04
Jewish communities of other countries, they00:07:07
showed themselves better, well, even here you are00:07:10
they started talking about Germany about other00:07:12
European countries, this is not a question about00:07:15
the community, other states of Germany00:07:18
generally00:07:19
offer any Jew who comes00:07:22
there citizenship immediately plus00:07:26
housing and good initial scholarships, that00:07:30
is, normality, I showed very00:07:32
very well00:07:33
Poland in general, there are simply no words00:07:37
since the damage opened its gate for all00:07:40
Ukrainians for anyone I was there, I00:07:43
visited there and saw how people came and00:07:45
how they greeted how he understands this is00:07:49
actually such that immediately we are like Jews,00:07:52
we are warriors all the time, what was it like00:07:54
if it was like that during the Holocaust, so there are00:07:57
fewer Jews died then they00:07:59
had to flee from here to there, but today we are00:08:02
talking about 202000:08:04
22 that is, in this this time, so that there would be00:08:08
openings in Europe of all countries and we are00:08:12
now undergoing resettlement, a temporary00:08:15
manifestation of our community from Ukraine,00:08:18
Budapest is very very good, although we00:08:22
understand what have you seen Ukraine now is not00:08:24
very you are on00:08:26
one page to single so we00:08:30
told me very much but nevertheless they00:08:32
accept refugees and give them everything that00:08:35
they need opportunities of course that in00:08:39
Austria they give more money and 20 of the00:08:42
Austrian Jewish community00:08:44
work very well the government will report00:08:46
there are about a thousand people there, but it’s like in00:08:50
Germany there are00:08:51
90 thousand children in children’s schools, in Ukraine there are00:08:56
90 thousand children, which means arrest and the00:08:59
soil is a general broth and people have arrived although00:09:02
they haven’t left very many, they have moved00:09:05
on and already 0 of a lot of them are also00:09:10
not like people cost a lot00:09:13
most 98 99 percent of people want to00:09:17
return to Ukraine pancakes and left to00:09:20
stay somewhere and you mentioned the00:09:23
everest cemetery which also00:09:24
suffered from the bombing before I can’t help but00:09:27
ask you about Babi Yar, especially since you00:09:29
have something to do with it Is the memorial00:09:33
functioning now? These00:09:35
damages that were there, how much00:09:37
can be eliminated now, let's00:09:40
say the truth is what is being done, what00:09:43
was done about these bombs in00:09:45
Jewish cemeteries in Russia, and how00:09:49
we have every new smart balls00:09:52
dam smart balls, this means smart such00:09:56
shells then which they can00:09:58
purposefully some place smart00:10:02
bomb yes yes smart so and the bomb00:10:05
that sends them they don’t know how, well, in short,00:10:09
what fell on the side of the measure it was a smart00:10:12
bomb it was entirely sent there00:10:15
because there were three days there in Ukraine then the00:10:18
lobach and did not take it00:10:20
directly they built over the barrier there you can see00:10:24
Ukraine and in Soviet times these are the places of00:10:28
Bashar antennas while they really00:10:30
wanted to go there, getting on the bodies, the barrier is00:10:34
much more important than the woman’s life of one00:10:37
person is more important than victory let’s00:10:39
say it’s normal to save a person’s life00:10:42
and peace in the forest but nevertheless less we are00:10:45
talking here about emotions and only zeros to00:10:49
emotions a person is emotional and you00:10:51
will see such things and you don’t know00:10:54
when you should have and I know you saw how the00:10:56
old people who live in our Jewish00:10:59
nursing home and how they00:11:01
reacted these are the people who lived the00:11:04
Holocaust which they remember this from00:11:06
Babi Yar, which they have relatives there,00:11:08
you understand that this is00:11:11
symbolic and there were no words, by00:11:13
the way, from the country of Russia after this, just00:11:16
like after any other and not just out of00:11:20
feeling, they just kill people and then00:11:24
they say that this is not mine, this probably00:11:26
the Ukrainians have their own people so that00:11:28
we, that is, everyone has such a Jewish00:11:31
sage who became that you look at00:11:34
another person will see himself in the mirror,00:11:36
you understand that you blame others, this is00:11:39
what they say in your head in English00:11:41
x multi but00:11:43
if they talk to someone I know how already00:11:47
in 2014 we suffered, our00:11:49
community BK suffered from these provocations00:11:52
that were sent by the Russians, people who00:11:55
attacked Jewish communities, you knew that00:11:57
they came from Russia and we would have caught them,00:12:00
it was clear,00:12:02
these are provocations, provocations, that is,00:12:05
this is us We are still living in the thirties and00:12:07
forties when the Soviet authorities00:12:10
did just that and thought that they could deceive the00:12:11
whole world00:12:14
if they continued this topic no matter how you look at it,00:12:18
but last week Minister Lavrov00:12:20
said the following phrase that the biggest00:12:23
anti-Semites, Jews in general, Hitler also00:12:25
had some possible then Jewish roots,00:12:28
when you heard this, think about it, the [ __ ] is a fool, he00:12:35
left,00:12:37
you understand, when I tell you, I’ll tell you00:12:41
that this is an interesting answer to this question,00:12:43
well, which no one will hear,00:12:46
I arrived as I told you and froze and00:12:49
I grew up eating Africans america I00:12:51
read a lot I was not closed00:12:54
although I grew up in the same family I studied in00:12:57
good schools got a good00:12:59
education and knew a little bit about00:13:03
what was going on in the world the Soviet00:13:05
Union Chernobyl Shakirova came to Donetsk well by the00:13:08
standards and everyone thought that this his00:13:11
Lampard and so on, Jewish genes, future,00:13:14
etc. and so on. that is, I wasn’t ready00:13:17
how much I would prepare everything because what00:13:19
is the Soviet Union? I was there twice00:13:21
before when I arrived there and talked to00:13:24
people there, it wasn’t the worst shock00:13:27
that I had the Soviet Union, it wasn’t like00:13:29
communism,00:13:33
what with communism people were afraid to talk about00:13:36
other things to say does it was not the00:13:39
worst thing for me the personal00:13:41
guardian it was so that they were not afraid of doom00:13:44
they had already stopped using their00:13:47
brains because if you are different than you00:13:50
think maybe you will say something and00:13:53
maybe it will be for you it’s dangerous now what he00:13:57
said about someone like Lavrov, who not00:13:59
only grew up and lives it, but he often does00:14:03
this program of the site, this is00:14:05
the organization of the site, you move all the seams,00:14:08
think that he knows how to00:14:10
use his brains if he didn’t measure strokes,00:14:12
use and think, most likely he00:14:15
said other things and then he would no longer00:14:18
be there, he had already trained his head to00:14:22
think like a fool to think like that person00:14:26
whose brains were made there in order00:14:28
to think and say something but in00:14:30
order to hide something, to00:14:32
protect his master who is the main00:14:35
killers of everything the world today, unfortunately,00:14:37
who is at war and kills people00:14:40
simply because he wants to and to think00:14:44
that so who does not think about his own gas00:14:47
and that he leaves the world what will00:14:50
our grandchildren think about when they hear the00:14:52
ways you understand the person who I00:14:56
will tell you I I’m telling you about the excellent meeting00:14:58
with Putin and the bear, you too, when it00:15:03
happened, this and the people who they00:15:05
will try in their heads makes a00:15:09
division between Stalin and Hitler who did not00:15:11
stand up and maybe there is someone who can be00:15:14
respected despite the fact that there are tens of millions of00:15:16
people he removed such a mass from being00:15:21
exactly the same as Hitler and any00:15:24
normal person understands that the difference00:15:26
between 20 and this has no reason why a person00:15:31
who can decrease millions of people00:15:32
is a murderer this is for inspection but in their00:15:37
heads it is so it is and that’s why people00:15:40
like Lavrov are not00:15:42
people like Lavrov who,00:15:45
unfortunately, he doesn’t work in this system,00:15:48
yes, he said so little that he00:15:51
said it there and 3 goes without anything at all00:15:54
there on campus, it’s definitely one hundred00:15:56
percent empty in his head and I’ll00:16:00
tell you that the weight of the system that00:16:03
President Putin has built now is a system00:16:07
that will go and the authorities and lead the00:16:11
people and the country, and the direction where he00:16:14
wants his personal desires, this has00:16:17
nothing to do with the people, the people00:16:19
and the country and then whoever is like that,00:16:24
so of course we must protest I am00:16:27
very much against what he said00:16:29
Lavrov because he represents Russia, the00:16:32
Minister of Foreign Affairs so that he can00:16:35
say such things, it’s just00:16:37
unpleasant, but this is part of that freely00:16:41
2022 year he has to00:16:43
justify himself and his boss, they00:16:46
kill people and look they even don’t00:16:49
pay attention who they kill00:16:51
the most the Russian-speaking population of00:16:53
Ukraine bombs fall on Kharkov on 3 pro00:16:57
Odessa mariupol they destroyed this00:17:00
city ethnic type so to speak00:17:03
Russian people before converting them will free them00:17:06
as someone from fascism when they00:17:11
do it themselves of course this is a terrible00:17:13
moment I here, but nevertheless, you00:17:15
say Lavrov works on the words of his00:17:17
boss, but it was his boss who00:17:19
apologized for Lavrov to the00:17:23
Prime Minister plays how do you00:17:25
know and00:17:27
how do you know this so at00:17:29
least he reports00:17:31
who who is doing well the Israeli side00:17:35
what the Russian country said started anything00:17:40
or yes or no, but let’s say even he00:17:44
apologized, the fact that he is afraid of or00:17:49
embarrassed to publish this means that00:17:52
well, mine, too, May I, I00:17:55
can call thousands of times, it can00:17:58
change that he killed tens of00:18:00
thousands of people, too, this will lead to00:18:02
the reverse of these numbers while this Lavrova, he00:18:05
should have fired Lavrova, he will bend over00:18:08
at work, I understand that it’s not hard for him to find00:18:10
such a fool so that later he will come and00:18:13
Eliza perform this collection, it should be, but00:18:16
no, this is not normal and you’re calling me,00:18:19
this should be public, he did it00:18:22
publicly00:18:24
and didn’t give it kapu black-browed, too,00:18:28
for you, these changes don’t don’t mean you’re00:18:31
impudent, you00:18:34
probably won’t argue that in the00:18:37
modern world there are few other00:18:40
states in front of which Putin00:18:42
began to talk like this and won’t even00:18:44
publicly apologize, why do you think00:18:46
Israel is that state and00:18:50
the leaders of Israel in those days, these00:18:52
states with which Putin is trying00:18:55
to maintain some kind of relationship,00:18:59
please, I’ll say it because in00:19:03
fact I can model a few answers00:19:07
that we won’t say how abnormal00:19:09
we’ll fly, I’m the situation now, let’s00:19:12
talk a little like this, yes, this is how00:19:18
Russia is now in Syria and00:19:22
because they want to be the00:19:24
forces00:19:27
of a superpower window00:19:29
they now the whole world will come out that the00:19:33
Ukrainian army00:19:35
destroyed this 25 percent of their forces,00:19:39
according to intelligence,00:19:46
what happens is that the Russian army00:19:49
now, where will I say paper years, that is,00:19:53
who should he not be afraid of now like00:19:56
Israel now there are a lot of us,00:19:59
that is, in the Middle East, we are00:20:02
super publish the east is Ezra00:20:04
Russia, it’s good that they have00:20:08
some kind of00:20:09
force who talks to him who were00:20:11
afraid of them, maybe they are more afraid and it00:20:16
seems to me that he will see this way00:20:19
Israel is aur is the forces00:20:22
Vladimir Putin he respects the forces he does00:20:26
n’t respect anything else he respects the forces and00:20:29
therefore Israel which has a strong army00:20:32
strong people00:20:33
where more than a million Russian-speaking00:20:38
people live, how big is it, that is, 2000:20:41
percent of Israel is about 25 we can even have00:20:43
Russian-speaking us laziness and They are no longer00:20:46
children, but the generation has already moved on. It00:20:48
seems to me that for him it was always00:20:51
very important. Another thing he grew up in the00:20:54
Soviet Union, he lives by the myth that a00:20:58
Jew rules the world,00:21:01
you think something is a little bit my reaction,00:21:04
you can order it, which is true, but he00:21:06
still has faith duet, I’m telling you that00:21:10
this is not a question, so he’s friends with the Jewish00:21:13
communities, it seems to me that de Bracy me too, I don’t00:21:15
think that he’s such a file, how he00:21:19
builds it, although I don’t know, I00:21:22
met him several times,00:21:24
we’ll just have an interesting conversation interesting00:21:27
conversation,00:21:28
he is a very strong person, he has00:21:31
an opinion that he has, he really00:21:34
wants it, you can prove that now00:21:36
they want it at night and during the day, he can00:21:39
prove that it’s kittens during the day and there’s00:21:41
nothing to talk about with him, argue00:21:44
suddenly that you still want to go home00:21:46
to get after the meeting for the truth,00:21:48
so it’s00:21:50
hard for me to somehow say and explain, but00:21:53
I’ll tell you this, first of all, Israel is a00:21:56
strong country, the Jewish people are a strong00:22:00
people, a people who came out of the Holocaust,00:22:03
a role for themselves as a state and a country, and therefore00:22:06
for him it is important that he has with them00:22:09
somehow he understands that in the end,00:22:12
if he treats Jews well,00:22:14
he will say that his country does not have democracy, it will turn out00:22:17
that all these stories that00:22:20
tell that when he came with the school00:22:22
l.b. shared apartment with Jews and a00:22:25
Jewish teacher it was, well, maybe it’s00:22:28
true and so on, but00:22:30
you know, it’s00:22:32
very difficult Yakuna will say a new one at the00:22:36
container on00:22:38
VKontakte chobi I’m glad he understands, I’m the one who00:22:40
stayed with him, he’s a KGB agent00:22:44
oh oh the quest00:22:46
let’s while you’ve already mentioned00:22:48
the Russian one the Jewish community, some of00:22:51
which are really very influential00:22:54
people, people from the financial elite of the country, do you00:22:58
interact as you do now 7 and kind of the00:23:01
Ukrainian Jewish community Russian00:23:03
if so, how do you find a common language00:23:06
now friend00:23:07
we will tell you I feel sorry for the Jewish communities00:23:12
in Russia not only now but already For many00:23:15
years I have been reading that from the very beginning,00:23:20
maybe it was not true, they understood where Russia was going,00:23:25
you understand, and I will tell you, I00:23:28
repeat what I told you before00:23:32
we went on air,00:23:34
dictatorship can be good for00:23:37
Jewry, but it is never good for00:23:39
Jewry,00:23:41
democracy can be bad for00:23:43
Jewry, but it is very good for the euro,00:23:45
that is, when the00:23:49
Jewish communities develop in the direction where there are00:23:53
dictatorships and dictatorships everywhere, I understand that00:23:56
in Russia there was a lot of00:23:59
freedom, you cannot compare what was a00:24:03
real type of dictatorship, is it00:24:05
really very good, is it00:24:07
right but that no less, it seems to me that00:24:12
it was a mistake from the very beginning to think00:24:15
that there was a bright future for the00:24:18
Jewish community in such a country00:24:21
when the war began in 2 thousand00:24:23
fourteen,00:24:27
how can I say this so that it was00:24:29
diplomatic there was such a feeling00:24:32
that there were certain forces that00:24:35
wanted push Jew Ukrainian Jew of00:24:37
Russia this is what I’m saying yes then the last00:24:41
time I met with the chief rabbi of00:24:42
Russia I said let’s come to an agreement tanya00:24:45
Jewish war what do we have to do with this00:24:49
between Russia and Ukraine let’s00:24:51
respect each other I have achieved a lot of respect for00:24:54
Lazar he is a great leader who00:24:58
has done a lot for the Jewish community in Russia00:25:00
reached the public I think the person00:25:03
has done a lot I may agree with them on00:25:05
some points, it00:25:07
doesn’t matter everything but he should decide what is00:25:09
good for the game in Russia I read my00:25:12
responsibility00:25:13
that it is good November Ukraine and we are not arguing,00:25:17
that is, we have there weren’t any after that00:25:20
soon they attacked each other00:25:22
like dig supporting I’ll hold that00:25:26
no everyone must defend and work00:25:29
within their own community once again I say this is not a00:25:32
Jewish war this is not a Jew I just take it it’s Russia00:25:35
against Ukraine and naturally the00:25:38
Jews who live in Russia will Well, you are taking00:25:43
some kind of measures with Russia, especially those00:25:45
who are looking there among you,00:25:48
they don’t have much different information, and the00:25:51
Jews of Ukraine will be for Ukraine00:25:54
because they live there and they know the actual business of what is00:25:57
being done00:25:58
interaction, we all work in the same00:26:03
international00:26:04
organizations world congress00:26:06
european clippings sharply threw close00:26:09
to the rabbi and so on there is like a00:26:11
lot of places where both Russian and00:26:14
Ukrainian Jews sit and they are among themselves, that00:26:17
is, it works and you support each other00:26:19
then something like that but00:26:22
what concerns internal politics and so on00:26:24
we just different countries, since a00:26:27
Canadian Jew understands but you don’t understand,00:26:31
you could say so00:26:33
if it weren’t for the vray question question 1100:26:38
cation sewing issues would not have risen00:26:40
to the shield of this war00:26:45
through diluting you understand that it has00:26:48
risen, I read artificially, that is,00:26:52
you are reading that the Jew who lives00:26:54
brothers thinks that there are patches of Ukraine that00:26:58
they will see how it develops, at00:27:00
least officially they are forced to say such things00:27:04
that you say that you are the same one00:27:07
said they were that they were not tell them00:27:10
someone gave it to the gods they read it, it00:27:12
means that I am there just listen to what00:27:15
comes out of here, if she starts from here,00:27:17
if she starts from someone and00:27:19
somewhere, well, this is not a conversation, I00:27:22
understand yo, the person lives, I’ll tell you00:27:25
without a name, so I’ll tell you the stories00:27:28
that happened when there was a question00:27:32
about00:27:34
Crimea, what Russia then took away stole the00:27:39
Crimea and the Ukraine was read in the Crimea ours00:27:43
and so and so I still00:27:46
annexed Russia in general and vox is handsome I00:27:49
spoke on the body bacci Ukraine00:27:51
Ukrainian TV and00:27:55
certain people who are in Russia ask me what00:27:57
they think and I he said that it seems to me00:28:00
that everyone understands that Crimea is Ukraine,00:28:02
I said so, okay, okay, I left the00:28:05
TV and studio and went to the restaurant00:28:09
for dinner and received a call from one of00:28:12
those people who we don’t ask about00:28:14
them, I won’t say who it is that00:28:16
says what you said you know that you00:28:19
will put my life in danger,00:28:22
what are you talking about, you said that all the00:28:25
people who are in this opinion think that00:28:28
Crimea should remain but Crete and I live in00:28:31
Russia if there is a sign and thinks00:28:34
that I think so,00:28:35
I will snatch it00:28:37
from the hand of God does not read this once for the00:28:42
second I am a guru where do you live you live00:28:45
country what if someone says another00:28:49
country on the body tower about what you00:28:51
think yours is dangerous and you want this00:28:55
country00:28:56
let's pass through Ukraine where I can00:28:59
say that I am not I agree that00:29:01
suffering is being done, I don’t agree with00:29:04
the president, I don’t agree, let’s say war, and00:29:07
then this is similar, and for this I’m not00:29:09
imprisoned, and my life is definitely in00:29:13
danger, you understand that there’s a lot of weight in00:29:17
giving00:29:18
statements and statements of people who00:29:21
live in dictatorships because we we understand00:29:23
that sometimes they are forced to say things00:29:26
that they themselves do not really00:29:29
believe or think about 5 about the season00:29:32
Ukraine must be looked at in fact in fact00:29:38
you know that yes there are others in Ukraine00:29:41
who use symbolism for cleansing,00:29:43
but much more there is no Russia by00:29:46
the way which does this much00:29:48
more, there are cleaning organizations00:29:51
that are registered in Russia and00:29:53
which we don’t read for the fact that Russia is a00:29:57
clean country, in fact now it may00:29:59
be that in Ukraine there are people00:30:03
who have such an opinion, you know, so that00:30:05
everyone is a democracy where there is freedom words there00:30:07
will be people who will be different and00:30:09
whether they have an extremist00:30:11
opinion but their not a percentage the00:30:15
stronger the democracy the less I say00:30:17
that Ukraine tems strongly and stronger00:30:21
stop the jack the more they00:30:23
respect other opinions and in Russia where there00:30:26
is less democracy the more extremism00:30:29
leads this fact can and look, it’s also00:30:31
being done, and that’s why Ukraine00:30:35
drinks more, there are people who read like this,00:30:37
they have their own opinion, this is a bad opinion,00:30:40
we can fight against this as if it’s not a00:30:44
war and shoot and kill tens of thousands of00:30:47
rubles and hundreds of children and destroy00:30:50
cities, this is not how we are today we are fighting, I’ll00:30:54
just sit with the fact that we are strengthening to00:30:57
macrotia with the fact that we00:31:00
how to say the diameter of course Jack is also00:31:03
education education education he00:31:06
than people let them teach each other00:31:08
let them get to know each other let00:31:10
them see so that yes you are a person 2 yours00:31:13
don’t lie to me don’t we can still live and00:31:16
people this is democracy but there are people who do00:31:19
n’t believe people on the screen they don’t00:31:21
understand about macrotia in the summer from and for these00:31:23
people west machine gun00:31:26
but nevertheless I will hook on these your00:31:29
words what is it I am for you war this is the00:31:32
Ukrainian war with Russia there is a00:31:34
Novorossiysk war with Ukraine,00:31:36
but that is, you invite00:31:38
Ukrainian Jews to answer for themselves00:31:40
the question of who am I, first of all, a citizen of00:31:42
Ukraine or Jews, if 1 is not through00:31:45
Ukraine, then this is my war, and if I am,00:31:48
first of all, Jews, then this is not my war,00:31:50
why such a conversation would generally 200:31:53
tighten up and what I said, my00:31:55
work, you happen to not be a sura in a dream and00:31:57
completing me while I want to listen and once00:32:00
again I’m diluting it I have00:32:04
one network myself having learned about we call it in00:32:07
Ukrainian Ukraine know I’m a citizen00:32:11
of Ukraine I’m because I have not yet accepted00:32:12
citizenship through checks and I am waiting for the day00:32:15
after the war, I understand how damn it is necessary00:32:17
now I declare that I will accept00:32:20
Ukrainian citizenship because I want00:32:23
to be like the Ukrainians now I want00:32:25
to be the same you dad purely as they00:32:28
call us this is a normal life this is00:32:30
democracy, I want to be a Ukrainian, I am very00:32:34
proud, by the way, that I have lived in00:32:35
Ukraine for 32 years, I respect Ukraine so much,00:32:39
but any citizen of Ukraine, his00:32:44
citizenship and civil00:32:48
duties, let's say, is to defend his00:32:51
state, a Jew is not a Jew, has no00:32:53
sacha, is not a Jew, this faith with behavior this is00:32:57
the religion I have, they don’t,00:33:00
that is, they don’t contradict each other and00:33:02
they flow through each other, these are different00:33:05
different paths the path to civil life,00:33:08
for example, now they should now I’m a Jew00:33:11
cakes from the USA verse behavior and I’m a Jew00:33:15
if there’s something in the USA I don’t like how00:33:19
Jews justified questions announce00:33:22
declare write shout demonstrate00:33:25
what I want against this because I am00:33:27
first of all a00:33:30
Jagdtiger and because this is faith this is an00:33:33
absolute faith this is not this is not politics faith is00:33:37
what I believe and this is a million00:33:39
percent this is not moving anywhere00:33:41
despite then what kind of city dweller is00:33:44
responsible and since the behavior is very with God00:33:46
and even Nestor’s relationship with the Jewish00:33:48
law00:33:50
is also Ukraine a Jew who goes to Ukraine00:33:53
they can be a Jew for us whether experience00:33:55
can’t Aquarius with the euro but the point00:33:59
that will go to a Jew all this is not often00:34:02
war war is Ukraine if I’m a Jew I00:34:06
defend Ukraine I live in Ukraine I will00:34:10
defend Ukraine if I don’t want00:34:13
Ukraine lead that this is not true I’m screaming at them00:34:17
right00:34:22
without00:34:25
stopping but this doesn’t contradict they00:34:30
don’t intersect with each other I didn’t say00:34:33
that how a Jew gets tied up teeming with00:34:35
Ukraine no how different the object from Ukraine is from00:34:38
Ukraine,00:34:39
I’m just incredibly interested in how you00:34:41
talk, surely you’ve communicated with00:34:43
some of the representatives of Russian00:34:46
Jews, including either rich or00:34:49
high-ranking people, how they see this00:34:51
situation, not you say, well, they are00:34:52
forced to say something, but participation00:34:56
in this is the financing of this I don’t know00:34:59
the work with the Russian army now when00:35:03
they are bombing Babi Yar when they are using00:35:06
the theme of fascism in your opinion this is not a00:35:08
betrayal by these Jews well I don’t know the00:35:11
theme of the Holocaust at the end of the end I want to tell you I00:35:15
tell you the official mechanical00:35:18
was upset at the time I was after00:35:23
I don’t know what they started calling or whether there are people like you say,00:35:26
Jews,00:35:27
oligarchs, so-called, who00:35:30
support the war or will not support00:35:33
the war, I wanted to say 1 which I can00:35:36
tell you both as a patriot of Ukraine and as a00:35:39
citizen of the United States, I don’t understand I don’t understand00:35:43
all of these sanctions that were done against00:35:46
people,00:35:47
I understand all the females that were done00:35:49
against Russian companies that are in Russia00:35:52
that are paid by taxpayers in00:35:54
Russian in Russian will be yes, I00:35:57
understand that, but when people live I have known for00:36:00
so many years already abroad and the00:36:02
personal opponent is being made of this sanction, these are the people00:36:06
whom we understand the whole the world knows,00:36:09
including in England, that no one influences the00:36:12
path, no one, that’s why I00:36:14
have a question, that’s why I have a question, but I00:36:17
still don’t communicate with people in00:36:20
Russia because exactly what we00:36:22
said before, that I understand that they00:36:25
don’t have the opportunity to be free with me00:36:26
talking to some people to get up, no00:36:29
awkward situations, I didn’t communicate with00:36:32
such people, if one of the people who00:36:35
forces them to give money to the war and00:36:37
participates in this war against Ukraine, I00:36:41
think that these people are doing very very00:36:44
bad, I think that this war would be with00:36:47
thoughts and murders, you know that this is not something00:36:50
that there is some kind of body that we can00:36:53
ideologically speed because there are no00:36:57
ideological disputes between Russia and00:36:59
Ukraine, there is a person who you are burning a00:37:02
country that has an army who00:37:05
puts his snot business his boys in00:37:08
danger and kills other people for his00:37:11
personal engagement ambitions that are incomprehensible00:37:14
no one can convince me or explain00:37:16
why this war is important00:37:19
2k so I heard a speech before00:37:22
the start of the war by00:37:24
President Putin and I will tell you that he00:37:28
squeaks history in order to achieve00:37:30
what he wants and he is not the00:37:32
first in the world that such a thing was done00:37:34
just in the spring in which participant who are00:37:36
made like this by regret the world00:37:39
continues or fortunately the world00:37:41
continues and such people they leave00:37:45
behind the legacy that the world00:37:48
history condemns what he thinks so that the world00:37:52
will say that you are like that he was a00:37:55
great hero00:37:56
such who well besides the fact that he lives00:38:00
Russian the world is obviously some other00:38:02
world where there are no such rights as there are no boundaries at all00:38:05
and he lives unfortunately in the Russian world00:38:09
his head is there and he thinks so but we00:38:13
live in a big world where there are a lot of00:38:16
people billions not only 150 miles or00:38:20
200 million for00:38:23
others who are with him and unfortunately00:38:27
this is but eggs, I, as you already mentioned, about those00:38:32
people who in00:38:33
Ukraine really then shared00:38:36
maybe some kind of00:38:38
fascist ideologies and mentioned that in00:38:41
Russia there are at least no less and00:38:42
maybe more, but still coming back00:38:45
here what name as the name of the name00:38:47
there ban bender and so on what did you00:38:50
experience when you saw how Ukraine was00:38:54
trying to find itself after the collapse of the00:38:57
Soviet Union, trying to find its00:38:58
own some kind of identification,00:39:02
including using these names, I00:39:06
want to tell you that there is a certain00:39:08
The problem here is that I grew up in America, this00:39:11
problem is really my weight00:39:14
cascade backup disabled. I would twilight00:39:20
American people think but in a completely00:39:22
different way than people in Ukraine and00:39:26
Europe think in body because the Holocaust was00:39:29
the most important thing in Europe she was in Ukraine00:39:33
she was not numbered although in America she00:39:35
was also sick but it was not this time00:39:38
second00:39:40
level of anti-Semitism that00:39:44
Jewish people suffered who lived in Europe or00:39:47
in the USA and so when for the first00:39:51
time I heard that people were afraid of00:39:57
it, I’ll tell you it was in the00:40:00
early 90s and I was in exactly a00:40:04
Jewish family I came straight from00:40:06
Neurobion and rested in our camp I was in a00:40:09
coffin I stopped by the film once to visit them00:40:13
misleadingly that we were leaving00:40:14
for Israel why when they say00:40:18
because they renamed our streets where is00:40:20
Bandera Street and we can’t live on00:40:23
Bandera Street you see, yes,00:40:26
I look at them and I don’t understand this, I’ll tell you00:40:30
honestly, well, of course, over time I began00:40:33
to understand that there is00:40:35
emotional suffering, there is00:40:39
emotional damage, I’ll tell you 1 more00:40:43
example, this is the00:40:44
Chernobyl wars, I don’t know how many00:40:48
people suffered, but I know that there are very00:40:51
millions of dozens of people suffered00:40:53
matinale that when they have something more, an00:40:56
illness, maybe it’s radiation, it can give00:40:58
a stop, you know, there’s this, I’ll tell you00:41:01
the guy stole00:41:03
it, not that this is the very thing from00:41:06
radiation, then the goods suffered from the Holocaust,00:41:10
not only this generation, the next and00:41:13
subsequent ones, we are now already 80 years after the00:41:16
Holocaust and still people are suffering, I00:41:19
take Ukraine on the other hand, they have their00:41:22
own problem, what kind of hero do they have, where do they have a00:41:26
hero, they want a hero that they00:41:28
can identify with them, which00:41:32
for the last00:41:34
50 60 70 years people have known another one,00:41:39
unfortunately these heroes who00:41:40
fought for the independence of Ukraine lived in a00:41:44
different time, they wanted Ukraine only00:41:46
for the Ukrainians and they were against the Jews00:41:48
against Poland against Moscow, just everyone00:41:51
who is not like that,00:41:53
now there are a lot of them that they did00:41:57
or purely joined with Hitler with the00:42:01
Germans at 16, this is not a question now00:42:05
this is not what the interrogation is about, how to unite these00:42:09
barely things, she’s a little bit of the Chechesdov way00:42:13
to get through in the finale, she’ll ask me for the00:42:16
lever of logic, but it still seems to me00:42:19
that historians must scratch and must00:42:22
determine what is not what we00:42:25
will agree to, what we will not agree to, this is00:42:28
Jewish a historian from the Ukrainian there are00:42:30
a lot of works when the south00:42:32
and the Ukrainian were created together under the organization00:42:35
and we went there so that we00:42:37
celebrated and indeed there were00:42:39
problems, but we can say that there was00:42:42
such a time then, but this does not change the fact, the fact00:42:45
is a fact, for00:42:48
example, now a film has been released where you can00:42:52
see the pogrom of the00:42:54
Ukrainian nationalists against the00:42:57
Jews, this is a film that I love, I saw00:43:00
with my own eyes00:43:01
when the Germans came, they00:43:04
incited the Ukrainian population against and00:43:08
the time was such a pogrom, you can see how they00:43:11
hit it subsides, then why because00:43:14
they showed everything fresh from the00:43:17
dead Ukrainians,00:43:20
this is the case,00:43:22
I’m mine with the ears of St. as one of the00:43:26
president of Ukraine in the bar at Yad Vashem00:43:28
said that I have never seen00:43:30
such a pogrom as there was not prove to00:43:33
be, but it was there, it was necessary00:43:35
to admit the facts that were, but this does not00:43:39
mean that Ukraine, an automatic00:43:41
country, understands today yes, but of course00:43:45
it’s unpleasant for Jewish up-movies00:43:47
when he calls the street Bandera or00:43:51
Petliura Street and so on, although the fool was very00:43:54
friendly with many Jews and so on, but00:43:57
he was a weak liter, a very glorious leader of00:44:00
his soldiers, they all participate in pogroms,00:44:02
although he made papers that- then lil again00:44:05
he can’t control they are punished00:44:08
so I’m not saying that between the Jews00:44:11
the Ukrainians instead are very much so and and00:44:13
this story is a lot of thousands of years 1000:44:17
thousand years for 60 or 50-70 years which00:44:21
were a very very unpleasant bad year and00:44:27
where- then sometime we must somehow00:44:29
determine what was how it was history yes good00:44:32
bad why bad how but this does not00:44:36
affect the table of our lives now00:44:38
when we are building a democratic00:44:40
state now when we are building a00:44:43
state we must look more00:44:45
rushing don’t forget what happened hall and00:44:50
sometime somewhere we are of course obliged to00:44:52
return to the questions and resolve this00:44:54
issue now or the next00:44:56
generation or five years ago,00:45:00
I won’t say honestly, I’m not a historian, it’s been a00:45:03
long time since I wrote these stories anymore and00:45:06
that’s why00:45:08
I can tell the Jewish point of view00:45:11
that yes, we should do this, it’s00:45:14
very unpleasant and it’s very bad, and00:45:16
let’s find heroes who are good00:45:19
people like00:45:21
Sheptytsky who we are the Jewish community00:45:23
the Jewish community we published commemorative00:45:27
monuments of coins this00:45:30
can be an optical medal gun birds cue00:45:35
who was the head of the Ukrainian cosmic00:45:37
church during Vanilla saved the00:45:40
heights Jew I00:45:42
met them Kuzma some of them00:45:47
are the first this is a hero a man who00:45:50
also suffered and also did you understand00:45:53
if others do but00:45:56
how much we should help Ukraine00:46:00
choose our own hero understands00:46:02
we live in Ukraine of course it00:46:05
changes us we will say as I said00:46:07
democracy shout we protest for food00:46:11
do whatever you want and then the beds00:46:14
vote but in the end it’s still00:46:19
democracy there are literally a couple more questions00:46:21
I want to discuss with you we have00:46:23
less than five minutes left so just00:46:25
keep this in mind when I said that I would00:46:28
talk to you I talked to his00:46:29
colleague who is a citizen of Israel and00:46:33
whose classmate is his former00:46:35
classmate at an Israeli school,00:46:38
he has now gone to Ukraine to fight, he is an00:46:41
Israeli citizen, but he went to fight00:46:43
for Ukraine, in your opinion, is this some00:46:45
kind of isolated story or is this a00:46:47
massive story, as far as you know,00:46:50
how do you relate to this, I know about this00:46:52
well, I know that a lot of people00:46:54
have come to create Jews from Ukraine00:46:57
who are fighting00:46:58
for Ukraine and against Russia, then00:47:01
similar things listen to me, I’m saying this again, the00:47:04
democracy of people feels they00:47:08
want them, grew up and so very many very00:47:10
many Jews from Israel who before00:47:12
was born in Ukraine, even those who did00:47:14
not grow up in Ukraine, there are still00:47:16
many people from all over the world, volunteers who00:47:19
came and because they read that00:47:20
the jack protects freedom,00:47:24
I respect them, these people know that one of00:47:28
my students from my school who00:47:30
died at the front there are many other00:47:32
students of mine who are fighting, who00:47:35
fought in the Israeli armies, came and00:47:37
are fighting now in the Ukrainian army,00:47:39
these are volunteers, these are people who have00:47:42
faith in some way, they have dialogues, they are00:47:44
ready to put their lives in danger for this,00:47:47
this seems to me a very big deal,00:47:49
I tell you I’ll say something else that this is unfortunately 100:47:52
time since the 1st World War, how did the Jew00:47:56
who you and the parade of vibrations who are00:47:57
Jews in the Russian army if you give them the00:47:59
Ukrainian army unfortunately turn down the00:48:01
same and this is the answer to your previous question00:48:04
that you gave then there is such a thing for mine,00:48:07
too, May,00:48:08
another topic is the latest, apparently this is already a00:48:12
present from Zelinsky, whatever one may say, yes, but00:48:16
in many ways he is just the personification for the00:48:19
Western world of the fact that there is no Nazism in Ukraine00:48:21
because the president is a Jew,00:48:23
how much in your opinion does this00:48:25
really work to explain the00:48:27
situation of the Western I want you to say that00:48:30
I was during the00:48:32
chosen company in Ukraine and not once,00:48:36
not once, no one even said a word00:48:39
about what he had,00:48:41
despite the fact that it was very easy, I saw00:48:44
other similar Kapanin Ukraine somewhere,00:48:47
but now I think that the people of Ukraine grew up00:48:49
very much,00:48:51
besides the fact that everyone in the double00:48:54
club, he, as an actor, was the most very00:48:57
very very popular actor, I didn’t miss00:49:00
almost a single one, but brother, that he,00:49:02
as an actor, you are simply brilliant, the00:49:06
very fact that the Prime Minister was00:49:09
Groysman, the fact that we are passing now00:49:12
Zelinsky fact that the people of Ukraine00:49:16
have now grown up and00:49:20
adult00:49:23
features have matured,00:49:27
democracy Ukraine has grown to such an extent that they00:49:30
cannot have a Jewish president, I want to00:49:33
see in Russia this is possible,00:49:35
you know, I know that it’s not because the00:49:38
Russian people are00:49:40
real, they00:49:45
wrapped it up like that,00:49:49
it’s not a joke, but every joke will die00:49:52
I read even more that the Jews00:49:55
suffered at times, they grew up much more than they00:49:58
suffered in Ukraine because when the00:50:01
Russian Tsar was a Jew, the Soviet00:50:04
animals suffered, the Ukraine suffered, as I said, for00:50:07
thousands of years there were isolated ones, so the stories were00:50:10
very terrible, but it was about five00:50:13
years full and very often this was also00:50:15
a provocation and a Russian who00:50:18
provoked the Ukrainians against the Jews00:50:21
this setup from you can watch the show at00:50:24
the slightest00:50:26
milk you can see the story there00:50:29
and others like that we are00:50:33
running out of time thank you very much for00:50:37
answering questions patiently and00:50:40
including such may not always be the case00:50:43
nice,00:50:44
thank you very much, I’ll remind you that this channel is a00:50:47
live guest and we spoke with Yakov00:50:50
Life, the chief rabbi of Kiev and Ukraine,00:50:53
goodbye, it was very nice to have all the00:50:56
questions for pleasant information,00:50:59
this is the most powerful, strong, what’s with so00:51:01
information is always necessary, here I am when00:51:05
you switched to Ridna everyone understood the language00:51:08
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