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where you met Himmler’s headquarters of the

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High Command of the German Armed Forces

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in the forest near the city of Rastin burg,

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East Prussia, who was present at

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your meeting with Himmler on the train,

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along with me for the meeting with Himmler, were

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traveling touch fill'd representatives of the SSS

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Obersturmbannführer Krieger and the

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regiment commander SS propaganda. Colonel Darkin

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in Himmler's reception room we were met by

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Obergruppenführer Berger who announced

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that the stroke filter

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would not be present at the reception, what did you

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talk about with Himmler? Himmler

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told me that the propaganda department of the

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German armed forces was unable to organize

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Russian prisoners of war to fight against the

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Bolsheviks in connection with what this work he

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will be doing to personally manage all Russian

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affairs, as Himmler said,

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his deputy Berger will be in charge and

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his representative with me, he

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appoints Krieger for a successful fight

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against Soviet power,

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Himmler proposed to unite all the

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White Guard nationalist and

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other anti-Soviet organizations existing in the territory occupied by the Germans and inside Germany and to

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direct their activities create a

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political center, giving me

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the freedom to choose whether to call this

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center a government or a committee,

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accepting Himmler's proposal, I asked him to

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allow me to create a committee

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called the Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of

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Russia and form an army of

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10 divisions from among prisoners of war to

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use them in the fight against the Red

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Army

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Himmler agreed to the creation of a committee and

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allowed the formation of five divisions from prisoners of war

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while he promised to provide them

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with weapons, then Himmler gave me

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instructions to develop a manifesto for the committee and

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submit it for approval. In a

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further conversation, Himmler was in detail

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interested in the events in the Soviet

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Union in the year thirty-seven, he

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asked whether there was a military conspiracy in

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reality did he have supporters

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wanting to show that within the Soviet

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Union there are opponents of the government

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who are fighting against the Soviet regime?

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I answered Himmler that a conspiracy

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really existed; in

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fact, I always believed that there

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was no conspiracy and the NKVD bodies

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dealt with innocent people.

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Himmler asked me a question: Do I

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know Tukhachevsky and did I know other

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participants in the military conspiracy? I answered

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that at that time I was still a small

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man, held a small position and

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had no connections with Tukhachevsky and other conspirators. Himmler asked

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whether there were people left in the Soviet Union who are

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currently the German

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government could count on and

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who can organize

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a coup in Russia, I said my opinion that such

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people certainly must exist in Russia, but

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they are unknown to me, then Himmler

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asked how I think

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Shaposhnikov could organize a coup as

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one of the officers of the old army and

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occupying a prominent position in USSR I did

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not answer this question, citing the fact

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that I was not closely acquainted with Shaposhnikov and

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only introduced myself to him in

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1942 as the Chief of the General

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Staff,

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after which Himmler asked how I knew

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Beria Kaganovich and Zhdanov,

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Himmler was especially interested in his personal

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life, they stood up and asked where Stalin was

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lives, who the family consists of, and are there

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Jews in Stalin’s family and close circle?

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I slandered Stalin, but I

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couldn’t tell Himmler any details about Stalin’s personal life,

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since in reality I didn’t

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know anything about Beri Kaganovich and

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Zhdanov. I also didn’t tell Himmler anything. I was unable to

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say because I knew nothing about them.

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Then Himmler asked the question

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who could be Stalin’s successor. In response to my

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statement that it was difficult to imagine,

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Himmler expressed his opinion that in

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military matters

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Stalin’s successor would obviously be Zhukov,

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and in civil matters Zhdanov I said

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that Zhukov in the past he was my boss,

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I know him as a strong-willed and energetic but

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rude person, before letting

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me go, Himmler asked if I could

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cope with such a responsible

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task as uniting anti-Soviet

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organizations of all nationalities, I

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assured Himmler that I would cope with this task

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in two years stay

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in Germany, I acquired the necessary connections

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among white migrants and nationalists, and

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also that in the coming days I will present him with a

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draft manifesto. Who participated in the

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drafting of the manifesto written at the

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suggestion of Himmler; the draft manifesto

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that we developed at the

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suggestion of Himmler was compiled by me

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Malyshkin Trukhin Zhilenkov and those who worked in the

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Goebbels department, General- Major

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Zakutnoy, former chief of staff of the 21st

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Rifle Corps of the Red Army, the

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manifesto

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set out the situation in the Soviet Union in an anti-Soviet spirit,

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slandered the leaders of the

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Soviet state who, allegedly, with

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their wrong policies, led the

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country to war and now the people of Russia are

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shedding blood for the imperialists of England

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and the United States, the

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need was proved the fight against

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Bolshevism and the creation of a

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committee for the liberation of the peoples of Russia was reported for this purpose; the

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manifesto declared that the

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committee was created to liberate the peoples of

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Russia from the Bolshevik system,

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concluding peace with Germany and creating a

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Russian state without the Bolsheviks,

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after which the draft manifesto

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was transferred through Krieger to Himmler, who

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contributed to it a number of amendments and approved the

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manifesto was signed by thirty-seven members

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and 12 candidates members of the Committee for the

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Liberation of the Peoples of Russia

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signed this document before the manifesto

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indicates that some members of the Committee for the

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Liberation of the Peoples of Russia did not put

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their signatures on this document due to the

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fact that they are in the USSR, please give your

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last name Zhilenkov came up with these people at the end of

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the manifesto in order

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to create the appearance that the

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representatives of the committee also act

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on the territory of the USSR. I told Zhilenkov that the

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Germans may demand that we

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name the names of these committee members.

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Zhilenkov replied that

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we will get out of this situation very easily, we will name them several

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commanders known to us in the USSR and let's say

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that they are supposedly our

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supporters,

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but you yourself in your public

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speeches claimed that you have

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accomplices among the generals and officers of the

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Red Army,

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no accomplices in the Red Army I do not

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have my own in some speeches, I

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actually said that I allegedly have

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there are criminal connections with persons

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located on the territory of the USSR who

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are fighting against Soviet power; in

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fact, I did not have them and spoke about

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this only in order to raise

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my authority in the eyes of the Germans. I must

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say that at the beginning of 44

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two people came to my dobbin door strangers to the

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sd employee who spoke Russian,

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one of those who came said that they allegedly

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managed to contact Shaposhnikov, who,

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at the suggestion of the Germans, undertakes

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to organize a coup within the USSR. These

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people asked me what I would like to

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convey to Shaposhnikov and whether I would like to

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contact anyone else in the Soviet

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Union. They can help me with this, I

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asked how the Germans managed to

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contact the Shaposhnikovs, but these people

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hesitated and

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could not say anything intelligible. I understood that this was a

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provocation on the part of the Germans, done in

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order to check whether I had any

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connections on the territory of the USSR and therefore I

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avoided talking with them who

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appointed recruited members of the committee after

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receiving instructions from Himmler to create a

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liberation committee, I conferred with

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Trukhin im Zhilenkov zakatnyy and Malyshkin

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offering them to select candidates for

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committee members Trukhin was supposed to

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select candidates among military

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zhenkov among former political workers of the

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Red Army for a major from among the

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civilians persons with white emigration had

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making and Malyshkin two days later we

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met again and together considered the

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submitted candidates, the

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list of committee members was sent

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through Krieger to Himmler who

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approved it with some amendments. The

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first meeting of the committee took place on

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November 14, 1944 in Prague, at

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which, in addition to the committee members the

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head of the Protectorate of the

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Czech Republic and Moravia, Phreak Obergruppenführer

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Lawrence, and representatives from the

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Czech government created by the Germans were present;

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the meeting was opened by Professor Rudnev, as the

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oldest member of the committee, who

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proposed electing me as chairman,

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after the approval of

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the manifesto we had developed, the presidium of the committee was elected,

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consisting of me, Malyshkina Zhilenkova,

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Trukhina Zakatnogo and the White emigrants,

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Rudnev and Balabin

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was elected chairman of the committee, I was elected secretary

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Malyshkin, according to the temporary regulations approved by the Germans,

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civil affairs were led by the

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chairman of the committee together with

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the presidium, and the military chairman

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alone as commander-in-chief, in addition, the

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committee created

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military directorates Trukhin

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propaganda director Zhilenkov

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civil director za Kutnoy

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financial director Professor

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Andreev, who fled with Germans from the USSR

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People's Aid, who was collecting

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donations for the needs of the committee, the

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leader, the white migrant Alekseev, you

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showed that Himmler instructed you to

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unite all the White Guard and

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nationalist organizations to

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fight against Soviet power, what you

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did in this direction in November

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forty-four, at the suggestion of

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Krieger, I met with the official

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leader of the Russian emigration in

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Germany, General without Kubski, I

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had not met him before and saw him this time for the

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first time without Kubski, he came to me along

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with the general of the White Army of the lamp, who

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was the head of the RoFSS in Germany,

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in a conversation without Kubski and declared that he was a

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monarchist for a united and indivisible

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Russia and considers the monarchy the most

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acceptable form of government of Russia. I

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told Bez Kubsky the main

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provisions of the draft manifesto and invited

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him to unite and go against the

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Bolsheviks as a united front but under the

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leadership of the committee without Kubsky and

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said that he would agree to join the committee

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only on one condition if the

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manifesto will reflect that the future

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form of government in Russia will be a monarchy

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and proposed leaving the leadership in the

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committee of the Bela with immigrants with no

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Cuban we did not agree on anything lamp

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asked that the committee involve in the work of

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forming

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volunteer units the

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old officers taking part in the

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ditch he also insisted so that the manifesto

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would say that Rose played a big

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role as the first organization that actively

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fought against the Soviet regime and is

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now being called upon by the committee to

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jointly fight the Bolsheviks. The lamp

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suggested that I write an appeal to the

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members of the ROVS calling on them to work in the

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committee in the new situation. I

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refused this connection with than the agreement with the lamp did

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not take place, however, in January of the forty-

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fifth year, the lamp accepted all my conditions

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and became a member of the liberation committee

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with any other representatives of the white

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emigration you met, I made attempts to

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negotiate a unification with the

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leader of the white Cossacks, General

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Krasov, but these attempts were to no avail did not

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bring Krasnov stated that he had already given the

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oath to Hitler and would fulfill it; in addition,

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he has a special

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agreement with the German government

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that the Bela Cossacks are fighting against

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Soviet power under the leadership of the Germans, for

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which they receive Cossack settlements in

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European countries from them, but Bella Cossack units

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entered your submission before entered but in addition to the

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desire of the red, in March 45, a

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Cossack congress took place in Zagreb which

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decided that the Cossack units should join the

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movement

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led by the Committee for the Liberation of the

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Peoples of Russia, a

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representative from the Cossacks,

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the commander of the canon brigade, came to me and brought a letter

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from the Cossack congress, having received this letter I

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turned to the reader and Berger for

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clarification on what to do in this

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case, immediately I was brought an order

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from Himmler to disband the Cossack administration and to

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subordinate all Cossack units to me, the

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corps commander, according to this

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order, remained the German Panwitz, who

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posed as a Cossack, having received this

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order, I instructed links, together with a

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new horse, to go to the Cossack corps, a

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representative from the Cossack bill, the

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committee, as I have already shown, included the general of the

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White Army Balabin, in addition, I

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negotiated a joint struggle against the

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Soviet regime with the leaders of the

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active White Guard

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organization, the national labor union of the

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new generation, lacquer bruns

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up there we and in Roman terms I

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managed to come to an agreement with them due to the fact that

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they were arrested by the Germans on

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suspicion of having connections with the British.

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I petitioned for their release and the

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Germans granted my request. On April 5,

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1945, they were all released from

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prison and arrived They told me about the

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dissolution of the SNP and expressed their readiness to

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take part in our common struggle

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against the Bolsheviks.

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Soon after that, they left for the south of

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Germany. Vergun was killed on the road during the

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bombing and Baida Lakov was

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seriously wounded.

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I don’t know where Roman and Bruns are now, besides

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rose and SNP and White Cossacks the

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liberation committee included the White Guard

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organization Russian National Union of

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War Participants led by the general of the

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White Army Turkul and how did you establish

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contact with the Turk lom-s Turkul and I was invited to

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meet by Himmler’s representative

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Obersturmbannführer Krieger at the end of November

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forty-four Turkul came to

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me in Accompanied by his representative

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in Serbia, a general of the White Army cruiser, in

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a conversation Turkul asked how I felt about the

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White Guard movement, to which I

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replied that for me it makes no difference

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which of the Russians will participate in the

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committee and fight against Soviet

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power, everyone should unite at the moment

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then Turkul asked what

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would happen to his organization, I stated that it

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should be dissolved and the participants of this

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organization should come under our control

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Turkul and Kreiter and agreed to

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dissolve their organization, while I

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promised that they both would have the opportunity to

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take part in the formation of military

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units,

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these are the White Guard organizations with

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which I negotiated and won over to

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my side. In addition, on the instructions of

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Himler, we agreed with the

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leaders of other nationalist

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associations

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to carry out a joint struggle against

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Soviet power. What

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nationalist organizations did you

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agree with in early November of forty-

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four? The secretary of the committee,

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Malyshkin, negotiated with the chairman of the

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anti-Soviet Belarusian organization created by the Germans.

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glad to Ostrovsky from

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whose name the Pole was hiding, Kalush Malyshkin

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proposed to Ostrovsky to dissolve the

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Belarusian clan and its leader

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to join our committee in order to

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jointly continue the fight against Soviet

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power, Ostrovsky refused this proposal,

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saying that the Belarusian Rada

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is under the jurisdiction of Rosenberg, under

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whose leadership he will

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continue their anti-Soviet

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activities in December 1944, in the

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management of the German uberger, they did not

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organize a meeting with the chairman of the

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Ukrainian Rada, a

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general of the White Army that existed under the Rosenberg ministry,

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shan friend, in a conversation, shan friend

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stated that he was a representative of

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all of Ukraine and insisted on liquidating the

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Ukrainian council created under our committee

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to recognize the chance of the hand as the only

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representative of Ukraine and he will appoint

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his representative to the committee, I did not

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agree to this, my friend suggested

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dissolving the Ukrainian Rada headed by him

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and joining the committee personally without

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reaching an agreement shan friend, we

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tried to negotiate with the head of the

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organization of Ukrainian nationalists

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Bandera for this purpose Zhilenkov in December

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44, with the assistance of the commander of the

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propaganda regiment of troops with Colonel Darkin,

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I had a meeting in one of the suburbs of

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Berlin with Bandera, who was

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under house arrest by the Germans for which he

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was arrested,

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I don’t know Bandera, in response to

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Zhilenkov’s proposal to join the committee, he said

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literally the following,

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no matter what Moscow no matter, the

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Russians will remain enemies of Ukraine, they

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brought Bolshevism to Ukraine, so

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I don’t want to have any business with the Muscovites.

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At that time, I negotiated with the

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German-appointed president of

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Turkestan, Kayum Khan, and the chairman of the

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Georgian committee at the Rosenberg ministry.

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Krieger

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brought to me in Dobbin Dorff I told

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about the committee’s intention to unite

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representatives of all nationalities 1

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which mind Khan refused, saying we

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have a Turkestan committee, we

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concluded an agreement with the German government

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under which Turkistan will be an

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independent state with Russia we do

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n’t want to have anything to do with similar

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statements made by the representative

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Georgian committee, after negotiations with

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Kay Khan, through one of

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the White emigrants whose last name I don’t

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remember, who stood close to a certain khan I was a

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man, we managed to establish a

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connection with the man and drag him to our

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committee. Khan Yomud was a prominent

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representative of the former Turkestan

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nobility and was dissatisfied with the fact that the

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president Turkestan, the Germans nominated an

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unknown person, Kayum,

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who they themselves awarded the title of Khan,

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so he willingly came to us and

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headed the Turkestan Council in the committee,

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where he began to win over other

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Turkestan nationalists in November of

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forty-four, during the

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formation of the committee, I had a meeting with

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representatives of the Azerbaijani

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committee at the Rosenberg Ministry

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Major there nginx Kim former senior

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lieutenant of the Red Army with whom I

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was familiar from joint service at the headquarters of the

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Leningrad Military District

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Nogin Rosenberg

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put forward Nogin's candidacy for the presidency of the future

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Azerbaijan on my proposal to

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unite for a joint fight

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against Bolshevism Sudan Ghent said

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that he could appoint to our committee

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its representative, however, the

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Azerbaijani committee will continue to

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exist, and in the end you achieved the

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participation of these nationalists in your fight

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against Soviet power, I managed to

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attract

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only Turkestan

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nationalists led by the khan, male,

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Belarusian and Ukrainian

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Georgian and Azerbaijani

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nationalists to enter for joint anti-Soviet activities, the committee headed by me

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refused the reason This, as

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I learned from Krieger, was the

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fact that Himmler’s desire

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to unite all anti-Soviet

00:21:23

nationalist organizations under his

00:21:26

leadership as part of the Russian Liberation Committee

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met with opposition from

00:21:32

Rosenberg, who in every possible way sought to

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preserve these organizations under his

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influence; in this Rosenberg was supported by

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Goebels and the head of

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Hitler’s Imperial Chancellery borman what military

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units for the fight against the Red Army did you

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manage to form from among Soviet

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prisoners of war before November

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1944? The formation of military units of

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Soviet prisoners of war, as I already

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showed, was done by the

00:21:59

headquarters of volunteer troops created by the Germans, headed by the

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German general Ke Stringach. I

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knew that these units

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were formed in numbers only Before

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the battalion and at the head of them, the majority of the

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command staff were Germans; the

00:22:15

commanders of these units, from among

00:22:17

Soviet prisoners of war, were appointed

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anti-Soviet persons who were carefully

00:22:23

checked at the headquarters of the volunteer

00:22:25

troops; the selection was carried out by the former commanders of the

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Red Army, Major Sakharov and

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Lieutenant Colonel Tarasov; in addition, through the

00:22:33

national committees created

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by Rosenberg,

00:22:37

national legions were formed from among the Armenians,

00:22:40

Tatars, Georgians, Uzbeks and other

00:22:43

nationalities, from the Ukrainians, the Westerners

00:22:46

formed their own Galician and a

00:22:48

division from the Kalmyks, a brigade,

00:22:51

generals of the White Army were brought in to form them,

00:22:53

these units were called so

00:22:57

Russian Rua Russian liberation

00:22:59

army

00:23:01

Ukrainian of the Ukrainian liberation

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army Cossacks d.v. . Don army t.v.

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Terek army

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I don’t know the number of these units, but

00:23:13

as the general told me, they

00:23:16

supposedly numbered about one

00:23:18

million people.

00:23:19

These units were used by the Germans in

00:23:22

battles against the Red Army of the

00:23:24

British and Americans

00:23:26

and also carried out security service in France

00:23:28

and Belgium, Holland and other countries to

00:23:32

form and I had nothing to do with the use of these

00:23:34

military units at that time,

00:23:40

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00:23:42

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00:23:45

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