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Вступление
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С Днем Шахтёра и города Донецк
2:00
Об интервью с Александром Лукашенко
10:01
Долгая война или скорое перемирие?
11:02
Все украинские политики самовлюбленные?
14:10
На какие компромиссы может пойти Украина?
18:10
Панченко донатит на армию?
18:35
Панченко должна извиниться за свои посты?
25:51
Панченко пытается усидеть на двух стульях?
26:56
Судьба Зеленского
27:30
В чем вина России?
30:05
В Украине будет новый Майдан?
30:57
Что произошло между Аристовчем и Фейгиным?
32:10
Что случилось с Пригожиным?
38:34
Что ждёт Украину в будущем?
40:45
Украину поделят?
41:10
Удастся ли Зеленскому провести тотальную мобилизацию?
41:37
Арестович пойдет в президенты?
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почему шоу Шустера сдулось?
51:10
Яценюк может стать президентом Украины?
57:00
Есть ли в Харькове пророссийские люди сейчас?
58:28
О мобилизации в России
1:00:00
Как остаться человеком?
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subscribers, hello everyone who is with us,
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every time it’s a great happiness for me, a
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great joy to communicate with you,
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I want to start with the fact that I want to congratulate the city of
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Donetsk on City Day and
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Miners on Miner’s Day, I fell in love with this
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city at first sight, this city is
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special and of course Today I want
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to wish him peace and I really want to believe
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that this will happen. We have a lot of topics to
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discuss after my interview with
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Lukashenko,
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chats on Telegram on YouTube just
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exploded and I think today is the
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time to answer your questions, before
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that I’ll say briefly about the rules as usual
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first of all, there will be questions
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from those people who help me and my
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team because it is thanks to
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people's support that the Panchenko project
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exists. This is truly, I'm really
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proud to say this, it's a people's project,
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so our friends are usually for Stream
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12:11 10 thousands of questions, you understand that
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I can’t physically answer everything, but I can
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answer the questions of those people who, not in
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word but in deed, are involved in the creation of
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our product with pleasure. Therefore,
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first of all, questions from those who
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donate to us. And of course, let me remind you, subscribe
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to Panchenko’s channel If you If you
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haven’t done this yet, be sure to subscribe to
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Panchenko’s telegram channel, there are my thoughts and
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everything that is later born on YouTube,
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video releases are
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primarily discussed in Telegram,
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it’s your comments, it’s your ideas that
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help me later shape what you
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see on the screen on YouTube So,
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traditionally, we start again with a
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question from users on Telegram, there
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were a lot of them when I
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announced the broadcast today and there were a lot of
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questions
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about the interview with Lukashenko. I think it’s
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time to talk about this. Well, first of all,
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Oksana Sadshchikova asks, I really
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want you to share How did you
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manage to interview with Lukashenko? What is the
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feeling of thoughts and feelings after the interview
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and a lot of questions of the following
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nature, for example, Evgeniy asks
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how you managed to achieve Lukashenko. But for
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example,
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some users ask that we do
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n’t believe that the interview took place just
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like that, didn’t someone put in a word for
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you with Panchenko? little word Well, the most frequently
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asked common question
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In general, in the comments that after
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the interview you, dear subscribers, ask
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this: when will there be an interview with Putin Will there be
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an interview with Putin, first of all, for those who
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ask, I don’t believe that everything is so simple,
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friends, this is not the last high-profile interview
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that will be released on the Panchenko channel and I
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will be able to surprise you more than once, so
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hold on tight and the second why this
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interview took place Why exactly
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Panchenko and so on and so forth I don’t
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believe that I don’t believe that I don’t believe that
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Alexander Grigorievich gave an interview to a
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journalist who does not represent
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any I
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’ll brag about some media structures I think it’s quite appropriate
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views on my YouTube channel today
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are more than 40 million per month This is more
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than many many TV channels This is
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more than any TV channel in Ukraine
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Although there is only one left there, but they
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exist as a single marathon today
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This is more than on the channels on which I
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once worked in Ukraine,
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this is worth recognizing and these are facts and not
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bragging today. Panchenko’s project is the
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most
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watchable
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and, I’m not afraid of this word, the most
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authoritative
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YouTube channel in the Russian-speaking
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space Why authoritative Why I
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choose this word Because I I don’t see
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anyone on YouTube today who would work
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to ensure that relations between Russia and
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Ukraine somehow begin to improve
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understanding between people. Today, as
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a rule, we see content that
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encourages bullying, encourages hatred,
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those who make such content, but they
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hype them up and earn some
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political points but all this is very
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short-lived they will sink into oblivion the
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request for hatred cannot not
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last forever so that’s why this
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interview was successful for those who don’t know
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two years ago Alexander Grigorievich,
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during a big conversation after
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I was the host of the Slavic Bazaar from
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Ukraine, promised for me this interview is for us
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It should have taken place then
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the war began. Of course, all this time I
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was in contact with the presidential press service,
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which works very
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efficiently.
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Later, in an interview, Lukashenko talked
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about what he reports to him,
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what Panchenko writes, he reads
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regular unpleasant things, so I think
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this question is somewhat strange Why
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Panchenko because today,
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again, in the Russian-speaking space of
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the Internet you will not find anyone else
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who would talk about peace, about establishing
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connections, that someday the war
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will end and we will have to do something about it
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like
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What are my feelings and so on
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Well, I probably
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won’t be sincere if I say that I wasn’t
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worried.
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Why. Because it seems to me that it is a
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great journalistic success to talk with
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such a person,
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first of all, because he is a
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Unique person from the point of view of
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history, unique for any journalist
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with Any
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who represents any country or
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any media why
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and why it is especially interesting for a
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journalist from Ukraine Because when
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you come to Belarus the
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first emotion that
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overwhelms you is why they succeeded,
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we don’t Minsk looks like a city that
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could be Kiev or Kiev
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which we have lost cleanly well-groomed
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streets,
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ideal roads,
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quality food, the main thing is a feeling of
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order and peace,
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and everything that is in Ukraine. Unfortunately, there is no
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Lukashenko, a man who over all these
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years saw how
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Ukraine, which had much more
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potential than Belarus, turned into a
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country, a ruin, deliberately turned,
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you know, we say it turned, but
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it will be It’s dishonest if we say that
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some strange people took over there and
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ruined the country. No, we did this by
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consistently electing the wrong ones, voting for the wrong ones, voting for maybe the wrong things, that’s
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not what we’re talking about now, so Lukashenko was
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primarily interesting to me as a
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person who managed to defend our
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state because friends all these
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years
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I think it’s even hard for us to imagine
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How many encroachments to
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undermine this country
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took place from
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third parties let’s say this didn’t
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happen
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Today Ukraine is plundered, torn apart, we
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have lost part of the territory We
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have lost 30 in 30 years millions of people in Belarus there is
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peace
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and stability, that’s why of course I
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was interested in talking with Lukashenko and
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asking him first of all Why
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so, of course I will again, it will be
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strange not to say that Lukashenko
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This man who very often says
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what we say does not want
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Putin articulates this and Lukashenko voices it as, for
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example, it is important that Alexander
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Grigoryevich said this about what can
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happen in the near future at the front and
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not in the near future if this continues,
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or for example, about the fact that this is also very
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important. Today I will again
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emphasize this. Telegram wrote about this.
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And the myth about taking Kiev in three days, well,
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first of all, in Russia, none of the
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officials have ever made such statements;
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what some media persons allowed
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themselves to say disparagingly? But what about
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taking Ukraine? Well, that’s kind of
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a question, but today all Ukrainian
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Propaganda still stands on the most
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important pillar which sounds like
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Zelensky is a great guy because he didn’t
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run away because he repelled the attack of the
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Russian Federation Lukashenko
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denied this in an interview. He said that there
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was no plan for the brothers in three
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days and that the Russians deliberately withdrew
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this It is very important for my
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fellow citizens to understand today who still believe
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that we repelled the Russian attack.
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What great fellows we are. Soon we will reach the
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border of 1991. I would like to ask these people a
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question today, friends,
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what if not, let’s
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talk about this at all today. I would
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like touch on this topic What if not
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Therefore, if you have not yet watched this
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interview, please look at
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Belarusian resources, there are already more than 10
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million views on Panchenko’s YouTube channel,
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a huge number of complaints
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were thrown at this content from the very beginning,
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we were strictly optimized,
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however, there are already more than two million
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views but not in millions of views of
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the case All world media quoted
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all Ukrainian
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media bloggers journalists in quotes without
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quotes discussed this interview the most
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interesting thing is that from a media point of view,
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as if they wanted to do
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the right thing they should have ignored
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this interview but no they discussed everything and even the
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Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine absolutely rightly
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stated that this interview was
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Lukashenko’s appeal to the Ukrainians in their
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west. I know for sure that the Ukrainians
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heard him, Alexander Grigorievich, because
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no matter how they call the TV taps of the
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President of Belarus today, no matter how anyone
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talks about how they treat him this is
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still an authoritative person and
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friends Well, let's Finally,
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don't learn to learn from your mistakes and don't
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take an example from the worst ones, in my opinion there are
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good examples, that's what concerns
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this interview, I see that we have a lot of
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questions, especially from the people
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who us they will donate
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my team, I’ll ask you to write how many people are
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watching us
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So let’s go
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Alex asks Diana Good afternoon, we are waiting for a
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long smoldering war or a Truce
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I don’t believe in the possibility of
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a truce in the next six months or a year I
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don’t see that any of the parties would be
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interested in this I don’t see so that
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Zelensky could be allowed to go to
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a truce, this is absolutely not beneficial for him and
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I don’t understand why now the example of Russia is
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so I’m sure that there can be no truce,
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especially in the next six months, very
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good question from a user
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with Nick Evgeniy very good question
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Thank you for helping we are three years old
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Watching Ukrainian politicians
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I came to the conclusion that the common feature for
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all of them is narcissism; the question They have always
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been like this is already an interesting question; an
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interesting moment during an interview with
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Lukashenko Lukashenko dropped the following phrase:
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I hate money And I think even his
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haters admit that well this is a person
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who lives for much more
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ambitious things than
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stealing money and running away.
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Unfortunately,
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in Ukraine, people who came to power as a rule were,
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well, not that they were fixated, not
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that they were narcissistic, in general, I think
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that if we say a
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national hero of Ukraine, if
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we form in one word the Petlyurs there before
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Zelensky this is an ordinary goon,
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that is, a national Ukrainian
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national hero is a goon, which by the way
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is reflected in
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Ukrainian folk tales of
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peas, for example, and so on, a person
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who somehow cheated somewhere, stole
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something somewhere and then, like a bun,
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left his grandmother grandfather left, I think that
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same Zelensky would really like to be a
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Kolobok
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and he still thinks that he
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manages to prick the West and his own
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people and leave Putin and Putin left the
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kolobok left but you remember How the
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fairy tale about Kolobok ended And
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narcissism, well in general, politicians are
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often narcissistic people, this is a fact and it’s
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very cool when voters
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manage to choose not based on
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artistry, charisma or some
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such data. How happened with
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Ukraine. And from the point of view of effectiveness, it’s
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hard for me to imagine that in Ukraine,
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for example, a
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person with charisma was elected president
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like Merkel You can imagine it, you
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can’t No, we choose a good
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guy, a cool guy, a cheerful guy
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We choose with emotions every time it hasn’t
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passed, it won’t pass in the near future,
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what to do about it Well, of course, the question
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in general can be debated for a long time about how
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effective And in general how effective the
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election mechanism is in order for
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the state to move in the right
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direction, there are 19 thousand of us. Thank you very much,
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but it tells me that Zelensky
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is giving an interview at this time, or rather, he is not giving
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an interview, now he is broadcasting, so he
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proposes, in particular, to equate
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government corruption only in
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order to fight friends with undesirables and
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so that on orders The West should purge those who
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somehow interfere with the
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party’s politics.
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Valeria’s very good question: What
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compromises is Ukraine ready to make so that
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both peoples do not feel
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humiliated by the results of the war? Referendums
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can be compromises
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for now. Ukraine is not ready; not ready to make
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any compromises; what sociology shows?
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Well, for now Zelensky simply will not be allowed
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to make compromises. And now I
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probably have bad news for viewers from
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Ukraine from Russia,
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for those viewers in Russia who believe
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that very soon we will reach Poland,
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for those viewers in Ukraine who believe
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that we will soon be in Crimea, this will not happen and in
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general, it seems to me, friends, that all those who
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today are fueled by
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emotions, yes, we will do them soon, who
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thirst for some kind of retribution together,
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all these people, unfortunately,
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have every chance of falling into depression, despondency
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and disappointment Because it won’t be like this,
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most likely
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this conflict will end like this that Neither
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side None of the parties will be
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fully satisfied, I am in no
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way saying now that one of the
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parties will lose, for example, But the fact that
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reconciliation will need to be sought, that
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compromises will need to be sought, that it will be
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necessary to seek language
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understanding is a fact so I have a question, a
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question addressed to people who
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today are fueled by content
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that is aimed at inciting
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discord, hatred, and so on, and
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in Russia in Ukraine in Ukraine there is
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much more of this In Russia there is much
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less of this But nevertheless, the most
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interesting and the most I think we are in We’ll
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probably talk about this later, but basically
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this content is generated
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not even by Russians, but by Ukrainians who came to
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Russia and shout Let’s beat the Ukrainians. It’s
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funny, friends,
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most likely this is yours, this is
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your path to but I was right and we
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’ll show them he is a loser, I notice,
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for example, in my comments, I
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read them carefully, friends, when you write, for
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example, that you Panchenko
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said that Russia is also
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responsible.
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How can it be if you so want to
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assert yourself?
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again, I have very bad news for you
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Most likely Most likely this
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will not happen, which is why I would know, in
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principle, high expectations are always
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bad. If I were you, I would think about
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lowering this level a little, again in order to preserve
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your mental health.
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Well, we have 21,000 viewers Thank you
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very much, many will donate Thank you
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friends, if today by the way we will also discuss
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this topic:
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thank God we can afford
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not to depend on anyone,
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your support is
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very, very significant and this is how
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our platform which I know for sure
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it will grow and develop. I have very
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big plans. I will announce some of them
00:17:40
today. This is how
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we will do a good
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job.
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So, friends, there were questions,
00:17:48
there were questions from
00:17:50
Telegram users, I
00:17:53
think I’ll answer them too,
00:17:56
Ivan Alexandrov writes Panchenko,
00:17:59
donate to the army, there is no shortage about the army there
00:18:04
were no questions from users, I think it would be
00:18:06
fair to answer because I am very
00:18:09
grateful to the users By the way, if you
00:18:10
have not subscribed yet, be sure to do so
00:18:14
Marina Pavlyuk asks and often similar
00:18:18
questions appear in my comments,
00:18:20
I think this is not the first time, but
00:18:22
nevertheless I’ll answer in Diana’s place. It would be nice to
00:18:25
apologize and explain myself for all these posts
00:18:27
where she called Russians occupiers and
00:18:29
fascists and Putin Hitler, they just
00:18:32
erase everything and pretend that nothing
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happened
00:18:35
Marina Marinochka, firstly, it’s very naive
00:18:38
to think
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if you are in principle familiar with my
00:18:43
activities I at 15 years of journalism,
00:18:45
it’s naive to think that
00:18:47
what I wrote after February 22 could have
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been written by me all 15 years and Facebook
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screens really don’t light up telegrams
00:18:59
there, confirmation of my position was
00:19:01
firm and consistent even
00:19:03
when it was very scary for this
00:19:06
you could just get a in my head in
00:19:07
1914 I wrote that what
00:19:10
was happening in Donetsk was unbearable and
00:19:12
wrong, Ukraine should strive for
00:19:15
peace if we eat each other it will
00:19:18
end in war, I wrote if this
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continues Putin is leading the
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troops, I wrote this after the events in
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Odessa on May 2,
00:19:27
I met the war on 22 February in Kiev,
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the status of the main opposition
00:19:33
journalist
00:19:34
on behalf of the authorities, I was considered the main
00:19:36
pro-Russian journalist. I think it’s no
00:19:39
secret to anyone. And no one will argue with the
00:19:41
fact that there is a
00:19:42
brighter journalist who
00:19:46
would defend the interests of the southeast,
00:19:48
who would talk about the need for a
00:19:50
course of neutral statuses
00:19:55
there was no implementation of the Minsk agreements, what do you think, when
00:19:59
the war began in Kiev on February 22, 22 What
00:20:02
was it like for the journalist
00:20:04
who literally 10 days before
00:20:07
said that Zelensky Zelensky
00:20:11
could be called a criminal if he
00:20:13
allowed this war, I directly said
00:20:16
that if this is a war it will begin, it will be
00:20:19
Zelensky's responsibility.
00:20:21
If you think that, in principle, one of the
00:20:23
journalists, one of the bloggers could
00:20:27
formulate their thoughts, could
00:20:30
write something without orders from the authorities after what
00:20:32
began on February 22, you are really mistaken. On
00:20:36
February 22, I was left alone, no
00:20:39
support from there were no owners of the channel, you know
00:20:42
who was the owner of the channel,
00:20:44
moreover, I’ll probably tell everyone about this for the first time now. The
00:20:47
TV channels were
00:20:51
n’t paid for several months. People were
00:20:54
left without money without any protection.
00:20:57
Alone with the nationalists and with the authorities,
00:21:02
huge threats rained down on the very first day. the number of
00:21:04
threats people were on duty outside my house, my
00:21:08
address and most importantly the address of my mother and
00:21:10
grandmother, who were not
00:21:11
guilty of anything at all, were leaked online, of course, on the very
00:21:14
first day. My social networks were
00:21:16
blocked on the territory of Ukraine,
00:21:18
they are still blocked in the very first days.
00:21:20
me and representatives of the special services with a
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firm with a firm sentence in quotation marks,
00:21:25
either you write what we
00:21:27
will say or I think that if there was a
00:21:31
second option I wouldn’t be
00:21:33
alive now, it’s impossible my relatives I don’t
00:21:36
think that I have to
00:21:37
make excuses to anyone Because that I don’t think that
00:21:39
in Ukraine you will find another person
00:21:41
who would do so much to
00:21:42
establish ties between Ukraine and Russia. Just as
00:21:46
I don’t think that anyone spoke so much and so clearly
00:21:50
about this, someone was called
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endlessly to a
00:21:55
meeting of the council, and so on and so forth
00:21:58
something like this when representatives of the special services
00:22:01
say you will write what we tell you
00:22:04
or you won’t be alive. What do you
00:22:06
think I could have chosen while the
00:22:08
Ukrainian journalists who
00:22:10
moved to Moscow were
00:22:12
eating off their cheeks and sitting out their pants; those
00:22:16
who, by the way, in particular, are now
00:22:17
reproaching me, God bless them, I have them even a little
00:22:21
Probably I look at this with irony, I
00:22:23
did something that is really important And for
00:22:27
which I really am not ashamed Therefore,
00:22:28
I think that, in principle, it
00:22:32
makes no more sense to suck up this topic, she has
00:22:35
already talked about this more than once, I
00:22:37
have explained this to me more than once at all shame, shame,
00:22:40
I think it must be those who are now
00:22:41
trying to somehow parasitize on this,
00:22:44
trying to somehow
00:22:45
speculate in particular on my name.
00:22:47
Because these people, Unfortunately,
00:22:51
they can’t do anything else while I’m working and
00:22:55
people are watching me, and this is confirmed by the
00:22:58
results of my
00:23:01
some people find nothing else to do than
00:23:05
make videos about me, suck up
00:23:07
this whole story, friends. I would like
00:23:09
to see you. If you were in
00:23:12
Ukraine once again, the status of the main
00:23:13
Russian journalist, the status that the
00:23:15
authorities assigned to me
00:23:17
because I never considered myself a
00:23:18
pro-Russian journalist only because
00:23:20
that I wanted Ukraine to be a
00:23:22
neutral country so that I could
00:23:24
speak the language that I like and
00:23:26
that peace would finally come to Donbass; it is also
00:23:28
very important for subscribers from Russia
00:23:31
who write to
00:23:33
Panchenko Agent Panchenko Wolf in the
00:23:36
skin of speech and so on, friends, I have again
00:23:38
for you maybe it’s bad news, I
00:23:40
didn’t intend and I don’t intend and I don’t want you to
00:23:42
like me, I have one passport, this
00:23:45
Ukrainian passport. I would really like
00:23:47
Russia and Ukraine to someday return to the
00:23:49
relationship that we had,
00:23:51
for example, in the period before the Maidan and much
00:23:56
earlier,
00:23:57
and I think that it is unlikely that Today you will
00:23:59
again find a journalist or blogger who
00:24:01
does more for this than I do. Ask
00:24:04
yourself. Ask yourself what
00:24:05
those Ukrainian journalists
00:24:09
who today are trying to speculate
00:24:11
on the topic of war are doing for this, who are trying to curry favor with you, curry favor with you,
00:24:15
and so on. I’m not going to tell
00:24:18
you. like or do something to
00:24:21
do something to seem good to you
00:24:24
I do what I think is necessary
00:24:26
what I consider objective if there are still questions on this topic
00:24:30
I think you can
00:24:32
ask them and I want to probably
00:24:34
put an end to this In this page not
00:24:37
because I I’m ashamed or something like
00:24:39
that because I really wish each of
00:24:42
you never to go through what I
00:24:45
went through. When they call you every day
00:24:47
and write that they will take you away in
00:24:49
packages. And most importantly, they give you
00:24:52
the address of your relatives;
00:24:54
absolutely none of them are yours the
00:24:58
patrons never asked if
00:24:59
I was alive or if I was alive and so on, no one helped
00:25:02
me leave Ukraine. By the way, this was a
00:25:05
separate story, it was very difficult
00:25:07
and only after I was able to leave
00:25:08
Ukraine, this happened six months
00:25:10
after the events began, I was able to
00:25:13
feel free and do
00:25:16
what I want to write what I want and I
00:25:18
have said many times that in Ukraine today it is
00:25:20
impossible to engage in journalism while
00:25:22
being within the country and everyone who
00:25:25
wants
00:25:27
to do something important and
00:25:29
meaningful and at the same time feel like an
00:25:32
honest person colleagues leave
00:25:34
Ukraine
00:25:35
What do we have there how many views we have
00:25:39
223 thousand
00:25:44
writes Dobrynya Nikitich you say don’t
00:25:47
donate to any army you want to
00:25:49
sit on two chairs Dobrynya Nikitich
00:25:52
I’m not going to sit on any
00:25:53
chairs again I’m not going to do or
00:25:55
say anything that you will
00:25:58
like and in In general, I think that if
00:26:02
All the viewers who want me to take some
00:26:05
position, again from the category Let's beat
00:26:10
some and so on to you over others,
00:26:18
then someone tells me that February 24 I
00:26:21
said 22 sorry, I misspoke
00:26:31
Diana why is asking anonymously Thanks
00:26:33
for the Donat Diana Why you don’t say that
00:26:35
no one is happy anymore For peace on
00:26:37
Stas’s Rutube it’s just like Artemy Swan for example,
00:26:39
well, I think that we have very different very
00:26:43
different content and it’s even strange
00:26:44
to ask and compare,
00:26:50
she again asks him what you
00:26:51
think Zelensky’s fate will be
00:26:53
next maybe He will escape Rostov
00:26:58
I don’t know what Zelensky’s fate will be
00:27:01
next, I think it’s not even interesting
00:27:03
Look at what he looks like now
00:27:05
and actually
00:27:06
answer this question for yourself without even asking That’s the
00:27:09
truth, it’s not interesting at all for
00:27:19
us Google Asks You say
00:27:21
two are to blame, perhaps what will happen to the
00:27:23
fact that our country survived 90
00:27:25
we had no time to deal with your
00:27:27
youth So what is our fault?
00:27:30
I just think that in any conflict
00:27:32
or in any omission all parties are always to blame,
00:27:34
and when I say that
00:27:36
Russia’s responsibility in particular is that there
00:27:37
was
00:27:40
information the policy, to put it mildly, is a
00:27:42
failure, I think it’s very difficult to argue with this
00:27:45
or the fact that
00:27:48
the bet is on some specific
00:27:50
political force, which, instead
00:27:51
of establishing communications, was
00:27:53
only busy laundering money
00:27:55
by cutting, it’s also unlikely that this
00:27:59
causes admiration
00:28:02
in general, friends, to be honest with everyone
00:28:05
people who are so embarrassed and
00:28:08
who are so immunized by emotions to
00:28:11
any of my statements that you don’t
00:28:13
like or that don’t fit into
00:28:15
your picture of the world. If I were you, I would
00:28:17
ask myself the question why this
00:28:19
bothers you so much, this question is one of those
00:28:22
that are most often
00:28:24
critical questions, I can’t say
00:28:26
that I get a lot of criticism on the channel, but
00:28:29
if we talk about criticism, then this is the
00:28:31
question that most often viewers from
00:28:33
Russia try to throw in quotes.
00:28:35
Why does Panchenko talk about
00:28:37
Russia’s responsibility, yes, because I
00:28:39
think that I have already said that I think
00:28:40
that the elder brother is always responsible and
00:28:43
nevertheless I will repeat again Yes, I think that
00:28:45
all parties are always responsible if you
00:28:47
want me to say there,
00:28:49
for example, yes, this would be the easiest
00:28:52
way, of course, well done, well, Ukraine
00:28:54
has [ __ ] everything up, these Ukrainians are like that
00:28:57
terrible, they chose the wrong ones, so cowardly,
00:29:00
and you are great. So there are bloggers who
00:29:02
will tell you this, please,
00:29:04
again, what is their benefit? I don’t understand that
00:29:07
Russia has a lot of its own professionals
00:29:09
who work effectively and
00:29:13
brightly. Why do people who,
00:29:17
again, came from Ukraine, do this?
00:29:19
how to somehow sell the Ukrainian
00:29:21
agenda I don’t know in Ukraine they simply don’t
00:29:23
know them, believe me, they simply don’t know them there and
00:29:25
those who do know Well, a narrow limited circle of
00:29:27
people who are somehow involved in the media
00:29:30
are considered marginal, so think about it
00:29:32
and again you always think
00:29:35
about why you why do certain
00:29:38
things catch you? For example, let's
00:29:40
speculate, the question of
00:29:43
Russia's responsibility sticks out to you, and what do you want to
00:29:44
say? That Russia is not responsible. It
00:29:47
seems to me that who is the one
00:29:49
who is big, I am now clearly not
00:29:52
the territory, he is always, as it were, in charge, like
00:29:57
this
00:30:00
Oleg asks Diana every 10 years in
00:30:04
Ukraine there is a new Maidan, do
00:30:05
you think there will be no Maidan soon,
00:30:07
because now more than ever the
00:30:09
screws are tightened in every sense of the word and in the media and
00:30:14
in society in general, people, I’m
00:30:16
not joking at all, in the kitchen they speak
00:30:18
in a whisper,
00:30:21
people are afraid even in conversations with their
00:30:24
parents express your point
00:30:26
of view there or as children. By the way, people have written to me absolutely
00:30:29
seriously in comments and by email
00:30:32
that they are afraid to speak Russian in the family
00:30:34
because the children will bring it to school;
00:30:36
that quality is encouraged;
00:30:39
hatred is encouraged.
00:30:41
Therefore, I think that there are simply
00:30:45
no prerequisites for this
00:30:51
Stepan asks Diana Help me
00:30:54
figure out what happened with the tandem of
00:30:55
Aristovich and Fegin, why did they
00:30:56
run away and start talking about some kind of
00:30:58
self-respect? I think the
00:31:00
best answer to these questions will be from Arrestovich
00:31:02
Fegin. Although they already did this
00:31:04
here, again, I was there if you’re interested, this is
00:31:08
my subjective opinion exclusively
00:31:12
advised to pay attention to how,
00:31:14
in some kind of anality, both speakers
00:31:17
comment on what happened between them,
00:31:19
arrestovich speaks about it completely
00:31:21
calmly with a smile,
00:31:23
fein with
00:31:26
foam and foam at the mouth, almost threatening to
00:31:29
publish the correspondence, and so on and so forth,
00:31:31
which of them looks more
00:31:33
worthy question I think the answer is obvious,
00:31:37
more precisely
00:31:43
like this I probably want to return to the questions of
00:31:45
Telegram viewers I think it will be
00:31:48
Telegram subscribers it will be honest there
00:31:50
were a lot of good questions
00:31:52
subscribe to Panchenko’s telegram channel
00:31:54
friends if you
00:31:55
haven’t done so already
00:32:05
Well, by the way, probably two I will say the words
00:32:08
Khesoyan asks voice your opinion
00:32:11
about the situation with Prigozhin Well,
00:32:12
first of all, I really don’t like
00:32:14
to comment on events that relate to
00:32:17
what is happening in Russia, again
00:32:19
because it seems to me that a person
00:32:21
should talk about what he
00:32:23
understands further
00:32:25
after 15 after the Maidan 15 there 16 year 17
00:32:29
Ukraine Ukraine suffered a whole series of
00:32:33
terrible, very high-profile
00:32:35
murders and deaths from Oles Buzina to the
00:32:38
Russian
00:32:39
ex-State Duma deputy Voronenkov and
00:32:43
so on
00:32:44
Aminokuev there were a lot of high-profile murders I
00:32:48
remember very well how it was discussed in
00:32:50
society and then I worked
00:32:51
in Life mode we discussed these
00:32:55
events as soon as they
00:32:56
happened on the New One channel and
00:32:59
of course we tried to
00:33:01
get comments from the authorities as quickly as possible;
00:33:03
representatives of
00:33:06
the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Ukrainian Security Service included
00:33:08
speakers who literally half an hour
00:33:12
after their own event declared that
00:33:14
this was a Russian Trace the hand of the Kremlin and
00:33:18
so on and so forth,
00:33:20
and there were a few journalists, in
00:33:24
particular your humble servant, who
00:33:25
asked a simple, completely
00:33:27
banal question, friends, prove Well,
00:33:30
that is, how did you, actually, half an hour
00:33:32
after the incident, be able to understand that it was
00:33:36
the hand of the Kremlin, or as for example There was a case
00:33:39
when I very well I remember I was just
00:33:41
watching a program that was probably well-known to everyone,
00:33:43
Shuster, with her interchangeable presenter,
00:33:47
and just during the program the
00:33:53
news about Nemtsov’s murder broke out and
00:33:56
Shuster immediately said that Putin killed him
00:33:58
literally at that very moment, I was always a
00:34:02
little amazed when people who
00:34:03
claim to be authoritative journalists
00:34:09
experts, public opinion leaders,
00:34:12
simply respected people allow themselves
00:34:15
what seems to me to be wild
00:34:17
incompetence now I don’t want to offend anyone
00:34:23
to talk about something in such a womanish way When you don’t know
00:34:26
for sure that’s why When the
00:34:29
tragedy with Prigozhin happened and those journalists
00:34:33
who in 1915 laughed
00:34:37
at colleagues who allowed themselves
00:34:40
to make a diagnosis. Sorry, and the
00:34:43
verdict immediately after the events there did
00:34:46
exactly the same thing. It
00:34:47
seems to me that somehow, well,
00:34:50
you know, it’s not even interesting, so
00:34:55
listen. Well, you can’t
00:34:58
believe in any of the versions when they
00:35:02
operate with facts when you don’t have
00:35:06
any- then of course I won’t make any bases under this,
00:35:09
so there are no verdicts there. I
00:35:11
understand that this is the easiest way to
00:35:13
hype up friends. A journalist
00:35:15
read the news there. Prigozhin
00:35:18
died, the plane crashed, of course, it’s probably
00:35:22
very hype to say that
00:35:24
one side or another is behind it, but why is it
00:35:27
such a cheap hype and in turn, I
00:35:30
urge you, my dear viewers, to be
00:35:33
careful and trust only those
00:35:36
journalists
00:35:37
who make you rather encourage you to
00:35:40
think, think, figure it out, and
00:35:47
even more so, be careful when they
00:35:51
try to get you emotional in general,
00:35:53
now journalism like this is
00:35:56
probably and, well, almost there is no left in
00:35:59
any sense, everyone knows perfectly well there about the
00:36:01
BBC standards about the standards of journalism, the
00:36:03
two sides and so on, but this is almost
00:36:07
non-existent because there is no request
00:36:09
because journalism has acquired a very
00:36:10
evaluative emotional character and there are
00:36:14
a lot of emotions in the media And even
00:36:17
more so emotions more there in Telegram on
00:36:21
YouTube and all those people who
00:36:24
today are
00:36:25
proudly called crowbars and have taken over
00:36:29
the functions of journalists. I understand that it is
00:36:33
much more interesting for you to be the first to hear
00:36:35
what you want to hear, of course, and it is much more
00:36:37
interesting to consume emotionally
00:36:40
rich content rather than dry
00:36:42
facts, but no less, the more
00:36:45
information you consume where they tell you
00:36:47
How to think, for example, thinking like this, they
00:36:50
think like this,
00:36:53
the
00:36:54
higher the likelihood
00:36:57
that you are being manipulated, that you are being deceived,
00:37:00
that the
00:37:01
higher the likelihood that you are simply being stupid,
00:37:03
sorry for a harsh word, you do
00:37:06
n’t want this to happen to you
00:37:07
Well, it’s no secret what you need. Yes,
00:37:10
there is, even if we talk about this, reading, there is
00:37:12
content that
00:37:14
develops, there is content that makes you
00:37:17
dumb, for example, ladies’ novels, it’s unlikely that
00:37:19
anyone will wise up. The same with content
00:37:22
that concerns information, friends,
00:37:24
today there is a lot of content
00:37:26
that
00:37:28
encourages you to hate, to despise,
00:37:33
to wait for retribution, and so on,
00:37:37
take care of your mental Health is not
00:37:40
a joke, in fact, it depends on it
00:37:42
trivially How will you spend your day if you
00:37:45
open your smartphone first thing in the morning and
00:37:48
hatred hate hatred pours out from there,
00:37:49
but what do you think
00:37:52
your day will be like? he is good And even
00:37:55
more so if you Raise children, what
00:37:58
will their future be like if they grow up in
00:38:01
constant hatred, so think
00:38:03
about it, it’s
00:38:05
very good, there was also a question from a
00:38:07
subscriber from Telegram, now I’ll
00:38:09
try to find it
00:38:13
about the future of Ukraine, that’s
00:38:17
how I understand the user with
00:38:20
Nick a Diana, from your point of view, what
00:38:22
awaits Ukraine and Ukrainians in the future? No one is
00:38:24
answering this question and I will answer
00:38:26
briefly and I see that we are already running out of time
00:38:27
if Ukrainians do not stop
00:38:29
eating Ukrainians. Ukraine will face a very,
00:38:32
very sad fate,
00:38:34
a very, very sad fate.
00:38:39
So friends, Thank you thank you for your activity, I
00:38:42
see we have a lot of questions,
00:38:48
you are asking me for the umpteenth time about
00:38:51
some people
00:38:53
Diana Maybe you know that Dzhangirov and
00:38:55
Maru are a draw in Zemlyansky Elena Lukashi
00:38:57
Did they manage to leave Ukraine And
00:38:59
I know all these people but I won’t tell and I ask
00:39:01
you friends,
00:39:03
don’t bother asking such
00:39:06
questions because I don’t want to set
00:39:08
these people up and again I’m calling you If
00:39:12
you think that in particular those of
00:39:15
the people you listed And some
00:39:17
of them are still in Ukraine and
00:39:19
cannot leave If you think that they are
00:39:21
having a hard time now, believe me No,
00:39:23
you also write about someone that you have been silent since February 24th
00:39:28
Believe me, these are very, very serious
00:39:31
things, after 14 there were not many
00:39:34
people who
00:39:37
shouldered this burden to say All
00:39:40
that is not popular and to say All that
00:39:44
that the authorities will not like it and there
00:39:45
weren’t very many such people and by and large
00:39:48
at the time when, for example, the newsone channel was
00:39:50
closed, it was exactly a year before the war
00:39:52
I was closed on February 2, 21, we were the
00:39:56
main
00:39:57
opposition channel, we were the 112th language
00:40:00
that could be heard
00:40:04
the truth and there really were Things for
00:40:06
which I am ashamed that we did,
00:40:08
you can say So what did they do
00:40:10
if it ended in war? Well, at least we
00:40:13
did
00:40:15
and someone again at this time, I’m now
00:40:17
talking about my colleagues from Ukraine,
00:40:19
wiped their pants in Moscow imitating rapid
00:40:21
activity mastering budgets working
00:40:24
only for hatred
00:40:26
So well, friends, I remind you once again
00:40:29
that first of all the question is about those of
00:40:31
our respected viewers who
00:40:34
will donate to us, so please,
00:40:42
Jack Kanderson asks Which
00:40:44
scenario for the division of Ukraine do you consider the
00:40:46
most likely of these two?
00:40:47
Korean Yugoslav I think that even
00:40:49
very authoritative influential politicians
00:40:51
who are parties to this
00:40:55
conflict today will not answer this question for you
00:41:05
or I’m asking Diana Tell me if Zelensky will be able to
00:41:08
carry out a total mobilization to call up
00:41:11
more than three million men will the
00:41:12
Ukrainians rebel? I think that
00:41:14
mobilization in Ukraine and I have
00:41:17
such information will be everything is tougher and
00:41:19
tougher and tougher
00:41:20
Therefore, if you value your lives,
00:41:23
think about this, a
00:41:29
very good question Evgeniya Thank you for
00:41:32
helping us Arrestovich is clearly on
00:41:34
air preparing for the election of himself for the
00:41:36
presidency so far subtly and in Aesopian language, do
00:41:38
you think it’s physically dangerous for him now
00:41:40
I’m not I rule out that
00:41:43
Aristovich will eventually have to leave
00:41:46
Ukraine. I know for sure that
00:41:49
Arrestovich works in the office of the president
00:41:52
now, on some other line, there is
00:41:53
information there, again, I cannot say for sure.
00:41:55
But there is information that he works
00:41:57
with Mr. Vlevochkin, but you know, I
00:42:00
have watched it so many times
00:42:02
a situation where those who seemed to be
00:42:05
Zelensky’s unshakable partners there ended up
00:42:07
falling out of favor, especially if
00:42:10
such an order came from above, that is, from the
00:42:14
West, from the
00:42:15
Kursky property side, so I do
00:42:17
n’t strongly rule out that
00:42:19
he will be forced to leave Ukraine in the end,
00:42:22
and in general, considering what
00:42:24
he says Aristovich voices a lot of sensible
00:42:26
things.
00:42:28
I’m honestly a little
00:42:30
surprised that he’s not afraid to walk down the
00:42:32
street, considering how many people in Ukraine are
00:42:34
very intolerant of thoughts of this
00:42:38
kind, a
00:42:46
user with Nick sweetie
00:42:47
asks the elder brother Verni writes the
00:42:49
elder brother will remain a brother Russia is
00:42:51
always responsible for my words and always
00:42:53
answered and this time the
00:43:00
cat Basilio answers Thank you for Donat writes
00:43:03
just a big human thank you for the
00:43:04
work Thank you very much friends I really am
00:43:08
incredibly grateful every time I
00:43:11
read such phrases when I read your
00:43:13
thoughts Thank you
00:43:19
You ask a lot here yours
00:43:22
attitude towards this or that character
00:43:24
why do they hate you there or that one
00:43:27
why does Montyan or someone else hate you there
00:43:29
friends I treat these people
00:43:31
with irony with
00:43:34
kindness I can only say that but if
00:43:37
someone is discussing me then I can probably
00:43:41
advise them somehow
00:43:45
broaden
00:43:46
my horizons a little so that the content is not
00:43:49
so monotonous that I
00:43:51
have to discuss other people, I
00:43:53
don’t allow myself this Well, probably if
00:43:55
they discuss me It will be good, it will be bad I’ll
00:43:58
probably be upset when they stop
00:43:59
discussing
00:44:02
As long as I can remember, I’ve always been the most
00:44:05
discussed there is a figure there as early as Nezvanovich,
00:44:08
as soon as she started working there
00:44:10
she worked just on daytime broadcasts, they were
00:44:11
always discussed there, I don’t know, and
00:44:13
body parts and something else and questions,
00:44:16
so it will really be strange when they
00:44:20
stop discussing and then maybe it’s
00:44:22
worth
00:44:23
thinking about, there will always be people who are
00:44:26
somehow speculating and
00:44:29
parasitic there based on what other
00:44:32
people are doing, it’s normal, it’s different, it’s just
00:44:35
that you like this kind of content, that
00:44:41
means the Freedom channel, and the
00:44:45
Freedom channel is essentially the Ukraine 24 channel,
00:44:48
which is now supported by the office of
00:44:51
the president. Well, Mr. Makhmetov was
00:44:52
once supervised by Kirill Tymoshenko,
00:44:55
then he was kicked out
00:44:57
of office I don’t know who is protecting it now,
00:45:02
but a lot of money is allocated, in
00:45:06
fact, this is a whole channel that is
00:45:09
watched on the Internet by 135 people, not
00:45:11
thousands.
00:45:12
135 people are watching us now, 25 thousand
00:45:15
and, as a rule, then in the recording of the Stream
00:45:18
more than half a million people watch and
00:45:20
this Moreover, friends, YouTube
00:45:22
optimizes us very harshly, that is, if
00:45:24
I were conditionally dude or there
00:45:27
and Varlamov, then by the way Varlamov Why are you
00:45:30
cutting off Panchenko’s dies? It’s not nice to
00:45:33
do that, especially if you’re tagging
00:45:34
some kind of journalistic authorities there, so
00:45:37
if I were If I promoted
00:45:39
some kind of liberal content, then I think
00:45:42
all these numbers that I voice
00:45:44
could easily be multiplied by 5-6 and
00:45:47
so on YouTube algorithms are
00:45:48
set up today So
00:45:51
liberal content is promoted first of all But this is
00:45:53
important I and of course It is important for me so that
00:45:56
as many people as possible can see me, but
00:45:58
not the number of views, but not
00:46:00
the number of views, because
00:46:02
you know, if it would be very
00:46:05
bad, God forbid this happens when I
00:46:07
realize that I have lost, you know, the
00:46:10
same feeling of not even resonance, but
00:46:13
feedback and support That is, I’m
00:46:16
doing some releases. For example, I see
00:46:18
that you are discussing this, I see that you are
00:46:20
throwing up some ideas, I see that you
00:46:23
are criticizing, for example,
00:46:25
I’m now talking to viewers from Russia,
00:46:27
viewers from Belarus, viewers from Ukraine,
00:46:29
in particular, father, viewers who write
00:46:31
Panchenko Well, how can it be? Or maybe it’s
00:46:33
better, better don’t say that why there and
00:46:36
I see a huge resonance and a week I
00:46:40
receive more than 50 thousand comments, which is
00:46:43
part of a large part of the work of
00:46:47
my team, this is very important You should
00:46:49
know about this, we are working on it to
00:46:51
process that entire array of
00:46:53
comments because I have to
00:46:54
understand that I am not losing touch with you,
00:46:57
friends, and
00:46:59
I would really like
00:47:02
that perhaps someone from those who are now
00:47:04
watching me, my Lomov
00:47:07
journalist colleagues, would think about the fact that maybe it’s
00:47:10
time to go over to the side of light and
00:47:15
do something good stop
00:47:17
pitting Ukrainians against calling Ukrainians
00:47:19
narrow-minded Russians there are orcs will not lead to anything
00:47:23
good This will not lead to anything
00:47:25
good This will not lead I am sure that
00:47:27
if the average Ukrainian
00:47:29
today were sent, for example, to Moscow and a
00:47:31
Moskvich to Kiev and someone else was
00:47:34
friends were very surprised, go over
00:47:35
to the side of the world Anyway, sooner or
00:47:37
later this war will end, we will have to
00:47:39
work by establishing connections. I
00:47:42
will tell me again very bad news. For all
00:47:44
those categorical people who think
00:47:47
that it will not happen only according to them, only according to you.
00:47:53
And by the way, please note this attention
00:47:56
concerns, for example, the entire conventional
00:48:00
audience that can be called
00:48:02
patriots.
00:48:04
Please note that if at the beginning of the
00:48:07
events there after the events there with the cruiser
00:48:09
Moscow, for example, or there are recent events
00:48:13
with the exchange of
00:48:15
these Azov men, more precisely, the return of them to
00:48:18
Ukraine, there is a part of Lomov, there is a
00:48:23
category of
00:48:24
journalists who in all this Ukraine
00:48:27
there is a wonderful word of return,
00:48:30
sometimes viewers from Russia ask me
00:48:32
how to translate this correctly. It’s difficult to
00:48:34
translate word for word in Russian there is no word for
00:48:36
word translation treason is a
00:48:38
little wrong betrayal is also a little
00:48:40
wrong Don’t look for hatred Look more broadly
00:48:43
someone has been criticizing there for a very long time
00:48:46
again, because of the Patriots, the grain deal How so how is
00:48:49
this, in the end, what
00:48:54
Russia has been doing and has been doing is this is a
00:48:57
way out of new exits with much larger
00:49:00
volumes on the food market and the
00:49:04
systematic strangulation of Ukrainian
00:49:06
exports and, accordingly, the agricultural sector
00:49:08
in general of Ukraine as an agricultural country
00:49:10
which in the next year will most
00:49:12
likely cease to be an agricultural country,
00:49:14
so Friends, these are less emotions,
00:49:17
less emotions and less What is
00:49:19
this feminine thing called, I don’t
00:49:21
want to offend the women of my favorite spectators,
00:49:24
but less emotions sometimes some
00:49:26
events are seen from afar and
00:49:28
think
00:49:31
about expanding a bit of a
00:49:34
large horizon is seen from afar in the distance
00:49:39
like this
00:49:44
[music]
00:49:52
Stepan asks, please tell us
00:49:53
why the ratings in the last shooter show itself were
00:49:55
blown away and your show in this
00:49:58
format on Regardless, it’s coffee friends,
00:50:00
first of all,
00:50:02
we had our own formats, everything just looked
00:50:05
alike in each other In Ukraine there
00:50:07
really was a show format that was very
00:50:10
popular. I worked in it for a very long time
00:50:14
and in Russia it is now very popular. The
00:50:17
only difference is probably that in
00:50:19
Ukraine there were talk shows that were attended by,
00:50:23
as it were, a very influential figure; in Russia,
00:50:25
these are usually people who call
00:50:26
themselves as experts
00:50:28
It seems to me that, in principle, now
00:50:32
let my fellow TV workers forgive me, and despite the fact
00:50:35
that I really loved this
00:50:37
format, I really liked working
00:50:39
only on the show. I really wanted to, I always
00:50:41
dreamed about it even before I
00:50:44
got on television, I always knew that I
00:50:48
will be a journalist It
00:50:49
seems to me that now I don’t know how to use this format,
00:50:52
I would probably remove it from the screen altogether,
00:50:54
this is my subjective opinion, I’m not
00:50:58
imposing it on anyone
00:51:02
Andrey asks Diana, how do you
00:51:04
feel about explaining love to you in the chat, I’m
00:51:06
a little embarrassed, friends,
00:51:12
Sergei asks Thank you for the Donat Diana
00:51:15
You are very strong beautiful Health to you
00:51:16
all your loved ones there is an opinion that after
00:51:19
Zelensky Yatsenyuk will come Your thoughts on
00:51:21
this matter Yatsenyuk will not come and
00:51:22
Klitschko will not come
00:51:24
I don’t know
00:51:27
when elections can take place in Ukraine
00:51:30
and what the next President could be the president of
00:51:33
and whether it will be the
00:51:35
president but Pay attention How much
00:51:38
now
00:51:40
Sorry, but the tautology of the attention of the
00:51:42
Western media to their zaluzhny Budanov, that
00:51:46
is, the surname Budanov, I think it was no
00:51:48
coincidence that Lukashenko voiced several times in our interview.
00:51:51
Therefore,
00:51:54
I would name these two figures first of all,
00:51:56
who theoretically
00:51:58
can
00:52:00
somehow lay claim to something for which
00:52:03
It’s not clear yet I don’t
00:52:05
really believe until the elections, now there is more and
00:52:08
more information that our Western
00:52:09
partners just want them to
00:52:11
take place, they won’t make forecasts there,
00:52:14
but to be honest, it somehow smacks of
00:52:17
something wrong to me,
00:52:21
but since the sun is on you only Nadezhda
00:52:24
How to fix the relationship between Russians and
00:52:25
Ukrainians work sister Thank you
00:52:27
very much
00:52:30
actually Well, you know, I also
00:52:34
went through several observed several
00:52:36
waves of processes of the stages of this kind of
00:52:40
hype in Ukraine
00:52:43
when the Maidan began and when the Maidan
00:52:47
won It seemed to me that I was such a
00:52:50
stranger at this celebration of life in
00:52:52
Ukrainian journalism, and then I was quite
00:52:54
seriously thinking about changing my
00:52:56
profession because, as a human being,
00:52:58
I couldn’t stand how, for example,
00:53:03
on the sidelines of the Verkhovna Rada,
00:53:05
STB journalists ran up to the journalist and people’s
00:53:08
deputies from the Party of Regions and shouted
00:53:10
How do you sleep at night That is, they are all
00:53:13
absolutely journalists Sorry they
00:53:14
were stubborn Sorry Well, as much as I don’t
00:53:17
like the word maydanuty I don’t like the
00:53:18
cliches there Well the stubborn ones are
00:53:21
not stubborn there were very, very few
00:53:24
of them and I didn’t understand that the number was completely alien to me it
00:53:30
was more very difficult to write something good I was very
00:53:33
lucky I am grateful to fate and at that
00:53:35
time I worked on the municipal channel
00:53:36
channel Kiev, which was less
00:53:39
affected by politics and then I
00:53:41
asked the editor please, can I
00:53:44
not touch on this at all
00:53:46
and then I worked already in
00:53:47
parliament you can cover the processes in the
00:53:50
city, I covered exclusively what
00:53:52
was happening in the city, communal
00:53:53
problems, problems of housing and communal
00:53:55
services, and in no way related to
00:53:57
politics, and somehow my conscience was clear
00:54:00
and I wrote then on
00:54:02
Facebook, again for those who
00:54:04
talk about it there some kind of changing of shoes,
00:54:05
things for which then you could quite
00:54:08
easily get a shovel on the head,
00:54:10
sorry,
00:54:12
then the newsone channel appeared which
00:54:14
became for me,
00:54:17
you know Well, it’s just the
00:54:20
embodiment of everything that a
00:54:23
journalist can dream of because in the first
00:54:25
year the channel then belonged to Muraiev in the
00:54:28
first year of work We did not have any
00:54:30
censorship In general, I think that well, my colleagues
00:54:34
will confirm. In general, few
00:54:36
journalists can boast of what
00:54:39
we had. We worked completely
00:54:40
freely, completely on the channel there was
00:54:43
Ganapolsky and Karchinsky in parallel
00:54:45
there were Muraiev and then Rabinovich, that is,
00:54:48
representatives completely different opinions,
00:54:49
completely different opinions and the journalists were
00:54:52
n’t told what to say, I could
00:54:55
ask anything,
00:54:57
the only thing at some point
00:54:59
was closer to the elections of the nineteenth
00:55:02
channel, it still belonged to Muraev.
00:55:05
Our editor-in-chief came up to me. And I
00:55:07
know very well, you know, that’s when you understand that
00:55:10
you can get a taste there and
00:55:15
some things I allowed myself, but a very
00:55:18
sharp one came up to me, I remember very
00:55:19
well, the editor-in-chief says You
00:55:22
know that they can block you all
00:55:23
day if you continue like this
00:55:24
[music]
00:55:26
and continue to allow yourself criticism
00:55:29
of the former was meant at that
00:55:31
time by Poroshenko. I remember this very
00:55:33
well, so thank you for the kind
00:55:36
words, what do I mean, I saw how the
00:55:39
journalists themselves were changing there, and so on.
00:55:41
That is, it was
00:55:42
fashionable to be behind the Maidan, they were behind the
00:55:45
Maidan, then there was such a Thaw and
00:55:49
it was fashionable to be Well, not about Russian But
00:55:52
at least there they drowned for the Russian
00:55:53
language and so on they drowned for the Russian language
00:55:56
then now it’s fashionable for Bandera for Bandera
00:55:59
I,
00:56:00
of course, understand that there has never
00:56:03
been a war in Ukraine and such such
00:56:05
stupefaction and such a degree of hatred
00:56:07
never happened, but nevertheless, I
00:56:10
understand very well how these technologies generally work.
00:56:13
What is hype? I
00:56:15
recently told you that I recently received a call from a
00:56:17
colleague with whom I worked for a long time and
00:56:20
who somehow changed my point of view.
00:56:21
I now see that
00:56:24
something is changing, perhaps. not yet in
00:56:28
society Although I understand very well that
00:56:29
in society there is also a huge fatigue
00:56:32
from everything that is happening and it would be difficult, it
00:56:35
would be strange if it didn’t exist,
00:56:38
but in general
00:56:41
nothing lasts forever and we’ll see what it
00:56:43
will be like next
00:56:45
So we don’t have friends there is so much time
00:56:47
left, we will soon be finishing with you.
00:56:49
Thank you again for being with us, there are a
00:56:51
lot of questions from viewers with donations,
00:56:53
let’s probably speed it up, I’ll try to answer in a
00:56:55
more
00:56:56
dynamic mode to 26.000 people are already
00:56:59
watching
00:57:02
Francoual, they are asking for education
00:57:04
political scientist, it hurts me to look at the
00:57:07
situation in In Kharkov, starting from the 14th,
00:57:08
were there still people there close to
00:57:11
Russia after February 24th, a very good question.
00:57:13
You know, Kharkov was probably the most
00:57:16
loyal region of Russia before the events of February 24th.
00:57:21
I
00:57:23
know this because I was in Kharkov, we were
00:57:26
looked at very, very well
00:57:29
when it all started,
00:57:33
Kharkov was one of the cities that
00:57:35
suffered first of all, it was very
00:57:37
strongly influenced, of course,
00:57:40
on what was happening, so there were
00:57:42
very, very,
00:57:47
very few loyal people left,
00:57:49
I can say this completely responsibly
00:58:04
Evgeniy Greetings from St. Petersburg
00:58:06
Hello St. Petersburg I really love this
00:58:08
city Santa Claus exists an operational
00:58:11
way to end the conflict with
00:58:12
minimal satisfaction for all parties,
00:58:14
including overseas, I think this will all
00:58:17
happen very soon if such a
00:58:18
method exists. At the moment,
00:58:20
I don’t see it at the moment.
00:58:25
Oleg asks what do you think about
00:58:28
mobilization in Russia, given the
00:58:29
elections there soon, I think that mobilization in
00:58:31
Russia will definitely be
00:58:34
confident in this
00:58:36
in particular. Perhaps this will be connected with a
00:58:38
company
00:58:39
in Odessa which, as it
00:58:42
seems to me, as I can imagine, will begin
00:58:44
either immediately after,
00:58:47
plus or minus this winter, immediately after November,
00:58:49
or after the presidential elections, my
00:58:52
humble opinion I do not pretend to what,
00:58:54
but from what I know and can
00:58:57
assume, plus or minus,
00:59:06
Mikhail writes on August 22, he wrote to the post office and
00:59:09
asked to accept the command Please
00:59:10
answer me Mikhail Thank you very much for
00:59:12
writing to us. We’ll come back and
00:59:14
check the mail and be sure to
00:59:17
answer you. Thank you for reminding us. And in general,
00:59:20
friends I remind you for subscribers of the
00:59:23
telegram channel we have mail can
00:59:25
write down but please constructive
00:59:27
things we had a bot but it just
00:59:30
exploded from your messages and I
00:59:33
urge If there really is
00:59:35
any information Or really you
00:59:37
can something useful
00:59:40
useful something make a contribution then
00:59:42
write,
00:59:45
we don’t have much time left
00:59:47
friends, I’m again talking about the fact that
00:59:50
we will soon I think we’ll finish returning to the
00:59:53
questions from Telegram
00:59:58
Ilya Shkrob gives an excellent question
01:00:01
I have a question Where are they Panchenko what should
01:00:03
those people who have relatives
01:00:04
like in Ukraine do? so in Russia, to remain the
01:00:06
people
01:00:11
who you see yourself in the future, Ukraine is
01:00:14
still a question: Will there be a Return?
01:00:16
So the Ukrainian format in Ukraine is
01:00:18
not yet a desire to return, as long as
01:00:21
people there hate each other and as long as there is
01:00:25
an atmosphere of hatred, until then I’m in
01:00:27
no hurry to return to Ukraine
01:00:34
Sergei Diana asks a question when she went to
01:00:36
study at KPI to become a journalist, the goal was to
01:00:38
earn money or did you want to change
01:00:39
something, I wanted,
01:00:42
I wanted to work and do things
01:00:46
for which you would not be ashamed. First of
01:00:48
all, I think you’re not a secret that
01:00:51
journalists, as a rule, do not earn money
01:00:53
a lot of money, although I’m not complaining, I’m
01:00:55
fine
01:00:59
Laura Torzimova asks Diana where you get your
01:01:01
strength, I look at you, I’m amazed at the
01:01:04
courage of your thoughts and words Thank you
01:01:05
very much Laura for watching us, she
01:01:08
draws strength primarily from close
01:01:09
loved ones who inspire me
01:01:15
Good question Where is she Do you know any
01:01:18
honest politicians in Ukraine who are not thieves and
01:01:20
corrupt altruists? If so, who are they? There are
01:01:22
definitely no altruists
01:01:23
relatively honest relatively
01:01:26
honest I know but not enough
01:01:36
Diana Did you want to interview
01:01:38
Zelensky I can’t even imagine that he
01:01:41
could say if he had anything to answer honestly
01:01:47
well plus he afraid, you can
01:01:49
imagine, for example, yes, Lukashenko gave an
01:01:51
interview to a Ukrainian journalist.
01:01:54
Can you imagine that
01:01:55
Zelensky is giving an interview to a Russian
01:01:58
journalist or, in general, to a journalist who
01:02:00
will not ask him exclusively
01:02:02
loyal questions? This is impossible
01:02:15
Diana, what do you think? When will they
01:02:17
stop persecuting journalists in Ukraine not
01:02:19
soon
01:02:20
not soon will they stop?
01:02:30
Alena asks where she is. Hello, you
01:02:32
said that even when you were in school,
01:02:34
Ukrainian society was indoctrinated into thinking that
01:02:35
Russia is to blame for everything; I was wondering
01:02:38
how you managed to do it. There are
01:02:49
two sides to the coin, on the one
01:02:52
hand, it doesn’t often interfere
01:02:54
in life, on the other hand, I think that a
01:02:58
doubting person
01:03:01
can come much closer to what can be
01:03:04
called the truth. I just often ask
01:03:06
myself questions.
01:03:08
Therefore, sometimes doubting is not the
01:03:10
worst thing, what
01:03:19
else do we have from questions, friends? 26
01:03:22
viewers
01:03:28
anonymous Thanks for Donat asks Diana
01:03:31
Can you estimate the losses of both sides
01:03:32
based on your feelings in the categories killed,
01:03:34
seriously wounded tanks, artillery, and so
01:03:36
on, unfortunately, does not have accurate
01:03:38
information about such
01:03:40
forecasts, more accurate than such assessments. Sorry, I
01:03:43
won’t do. And those journalists who
01:03:46
deal with such assessments It seems to me that there
01:03:49
should be questions for them because it’s
01:03:50
very easy to hype on such things, I
01:03:54
think there is
01:03:57
actually a very limited number of
01:03:58
people, a
01:04:03
user with Nick sweet writes
01:04:06
Diana, here you are saying, I didn’t dream of doing an interview
01:04:08
with Lukashenko Thank you very much
01:04:10
for rating my works
01:04:25
In what format do you prefer to read
01:04:28
books they ask Alexander Thank you for the
01:04:30
donation in electronic or paper
01:04:31
exclusively paper I prefer
01:04:33
electronic so it didn’t catch on for me I’ll
01:04:36
probably
01:04:37
do now here the promised announcement
01:04:40
that I talked about at the beginning of
01:04:41
our communication I
01:04:43
almost said 2 remember from memory at
01:04:45
the beginning of our program,
01:04:47
you see the television future of the past,
01:04:50
or rather, won’t let me go,
01:04:52
which means I promised that I would announce
01:04:56
something and told you that
01:04:59
I have big plans, so soon I can
01:05:02
talk about some specific time
01:05:04
periods, but very soon I want to
01:05:08
share with my friends you with your conclusions and
01:05:11
observations about how Ukraine went for 30 years
01:05:15
to where it has now arrived. Why did
01:05:18
a country that in ninety-one
01:05:20
had one of the greatest
01:05:22
potentials in the USSR turn into the
01:05:25
poorest country in Europe from which
01:05:27
30 million people left and, Sorry,
01:05:30
that lost 30 million people
01:05:32
left died, the birth rate
01:05:34
catastrophically continues to decline,
01:05:36
how Ukraine in 30 years turned into a
01:05:40
country of a torpedo into a testing ground in anti-Russia
01:05:42
Why did this happen
01:05:44
Was it possible to avoid this war Or did we
01:05:47
go to it for 30 years or was it
01:05:49
destined for back in the ninety-first
01:05:51
year how politicians
01:05:54
pitted people And they were simply
01:05:58
cultivating hatred for
01:06:00
30 years, they were rewriting history
01:06:03
with interesting facts and details about it
01:06:06
all. I want to tell you about my book,
01:06:07
which I hope very soon you will see. I
01:06:12
really, really, really want you to be
01:06:14
able to read it and of course I will be
01:06:17
waiting for your comments. I hope so
01:06:19
will happen soon enough
01:06:21
For me this is a very exciting event. I
01:06:24
also want to say that there will
01:06:27
definitely be other large-scale
01:06:30
interesting projects. I don’t want to chase the
01:06:34
hype there by the number of views. And
01:06:36
if I were asked today what I
01:06:39
am the main criterion for my work,
01:06:42
then I would probably say the word the word
01:06:45
useful useful in what I would really
01:06:49
like that for someone what I do
01:06:51
becomes at least some kind of incentive
01:06:56
to think about everything that is
01:06:58
happening today between our countries
01:07:00
such terrible relations we have not had for a
01:07:04
very long time and every time I go
01:07:08
to Instagram or Facebook or just
01:07:10
read some Ukrainian public pages. I do
01:07:13
this every day and I see the whole stream of
01:07:15
hatred. I really get
01:07:17
emotionally immersed every time. It hurts me a lot,
01:07:20
I still can’t get used to it.
01:07:22
And I really want my people to
01:07:25
someday... then I started to recover, this is the
01:07:28
main thing that I do, what am I for? Why am
01:07:32
I working? I think it’s
01:07:35
time for us to finish soon. Therefore, if there are a
01:07:37
few
01:07:38
questions left,
01:07:40
if there are still a few questions, some
01:07:42
questions about the Neolithic, I don’t know about something
01:07:45
easier, then please ask
01:07:47
Let's take a couple more minutes and we will
01:07:49
finish with a lot of comments
01:07:51
after the interview with Lukashenko Take an
01:07:53
interview with Putin
01:07:55
Thank you friends for having such a
01:07:57
request. I want to say that I know for sure
01:08:02
that there are questions that
01:08:04
only a Ukrainian can ask the President of Russia,
01:08:07
only a Ukrainian journalist and the
01:08:09
answers to these questions will be of interest to
01:08:12
both Ukrainians and Russians and, of course, the whole
01:08:14
world,
01:08:15
for example, yes, also very
01:08:19
interesting things, we just asked the
01:08:20
Crimeans
01:08:21
what do you think about returning to Ukraine,
01:08:24
although Russian journalists would hardly
01:08:27
ask exactly in this wording,
01:08:29
such It would seem simple question today
01:08:31
on YouTube, a video with people’s answers has already
01:08:37
gained, it seems, about 10 million
01:08:39
views, this is a lot
01:08:41
in general. Imagine that of them, if I’m
01:08:45
not mistaken, a quarter is Ukraine, that is,
01:08:47
Calculate How many Ukrainians are
01:08:49
Ukrainians in Ukraine left there? 20
01:08:51
million saw what they think about this
01:08:54
Crimeans Well, or for example, if we talk about
01:08:57
the statistics of interviews with Lukashenko, then
01:09:01
in Ukraine alone at least
01:09:04
half a million people watched, 20 million is
01:09:06
a lot. I’m already silent about the fact that there were a
01:09:09
huge number of quotes and so on.
01:09:12
Now I’m in no way putting my own
01:09:13
worth on myself. I want to emphasize that
01:09:16
I have this period of time that I
01:09:21
am developing my Youtube channel, of course
01:09:23
I
01:09:24
had a large number of Councils
01:09:27
of advisers who tried to
01:09:29
offer advice there, and so on, and
01:09:32
as a rule, the advice there was of the nature of
01:09:35
what it means to decide who
01:09:38
you are Panchenko with whom are you and what does it mean to move
01:09:41
your line?
01:09:43
I certainly do not in any way criticize the
01:09:47
one who has decided who he is, but as a
01:09:49
person who
01:09:50
once again met the war in Ukraine on February 24,
01:09:55
22, I think that I do not have the moral
01:10:00
right to do something else as in
01:10:03
my modest work that is aimed,
01:10:04
as much as possible, at some kind of,
01:10:07
if not reconciliation, then understanding between
01:10:10
peoples that I consider fraternal and
01:10:13
who once lived in the same country. I
01:10:16
remember very well those times when
01:10:18
Putin was still the most popular politician
01:10:19
in Ukraine, then Lukashenko, those times
01:10:22
when Muscovites came to Odessa at a
01:10:25
disco And Kiev residents went to St. Petersburg on
01:10:30
excursions and if
01:10:33
they asked me now they would believe What is it that
01:10:35
will happen again answers to this question
01:10:38
friends I won’t find simple
01:10:40
ways simple solutions or rather unfortunately
01:10:44
now
01:10:45
No everything has gone very far
01:10:49
I have optimistic forecasts for you,
01:10:51
too, unfortunately, no, except for one thing
01:10:53
Let's remain human, I
01:10:56
asked you If you have questions
01:10:58
not about politics, then please send them
01:11:03
God, how nice it is for me, someone asks
01:11:05
how you relax free time, what
01:11:08
hobbies
01:11:09
free time I spend with
01:11:14
loved ones, loved ones, most
01:11:17
often on walks Lately I’ve
01:11:20
really fallen in love with walking, by the way, I didn’t
01:11:22
like it before. And of course, it’s a sport, in
01:11:26
particular, now they’re mastering tennis;
01:11:29
it’s still not as good as
01:11:31
I’d like, but I’m very, very
01:11:33
inspired by
01:11:35
sport.
01:11:37
And of course, I spend a
01:11:39
lot of time reading your
01:11:42
comments, friends and that’s it of all the
01:11:45
array of information that you bring
01:11:50
Anatoly asks What is your dream
01:11:52
to be happy
01:11:55
Nikita asks the sea or the mountains the sea
01:11:57
Although recently I also fell in love with
01:12:02
your secret of beauty friends Well, in this
01:12:06
sense I am a modest person but in general I
01:12:09
think that there is
01:12:12
nothing like that
01:12:15
the most positive effect, but appearance and
01:12:17
for a man for women is like a dream
01:12:21
lately, I don’t know for the
01:12:23
last year, maybe I
01:12:26
changed my schedule a little I always thought that
01:12:28
I was a night owl Well, in fact, evening
01:12:31
television broadcasts did not contribute to going to
01:12:34
bed early I’m lately
01:12:36
time very early I go to bed there at about 10
01:12:38
pm accordingly early I get up
01:12:41
further there jogging exercises and this is
01:12:45
probably better the
01:12:46
best recipe that I can
01:12:48
advise you Well, also positive emotions
01:12:54
Diana What kind of music do you like I have already
01:12:57
answered friends, in this sense I am very
01:13:00
conservative and listen to very old
01:13:04
the music is usually Russian rock from
01:13:06
20 years ago, there is Zemfira and two
01:13:10
Nautilus, in this sense I am a very
01:13:12
conservative person.
01:13:18
I think, friends, that there are quite a lot of
01:13:20
questions. I have already answered. And
01:13:23
once again I urge you, first of all, If you have
01:13:26
not yet subscribed to the telegram channel
01:13:27
Panchenko please do this and
01:13:29
subscribe to Panchenko’s Youtube channel
01:13:33
I’ll be more precise soon
01:13:36
Next week wait
01:13:38
most likely instead of Panchenko’s look in a
01:13:41
different format
01:13:43
Well, closer to the fall and in the fall I will
01:13:46
definitely please you with new content
01:13:48
Thank you again, sorry for not
01:13:51
answering I will definitely answer all your questions
01:13:53
in our next broadcasts,
01:13:56
I love you all very much, peace to you
01:13:58
bye

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