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blogger Mark Zakharovich Fegen joins our conversation with whom
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we will discuss the headquarters and other main events of
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the day Margakhach Greetings Good evening
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Ruslan Georgiy Glad to welcome you,
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we just watched a report about a
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short story about the headquarters of Navalny, which is
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recognized as extremist, the story of
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how they restarted, I want to start with a
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question for you, are you in some kind of
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underground resistance Well, that is, in
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different ways someone More radical
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some less but the story about the underground
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protest, how do you feel about it and do
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you support it or do you have some
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other point of view regarding the underground
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for anti-war voices
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Well, actually there is nothing else
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left. Is there really any
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other form of resistance? Then we should
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refuse to work in Russia altogether
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if we consider that working in the field is as dangerous
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as publicly open activity.
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Therefore, I
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believe that any form of underground,
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unspoken, any work, so to speak, in
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Russia welcome here There is no choice That's
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what it's all about, that is, you have to
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act in conditions that are
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what the underground is, in principle, the underground is
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different different forms, unspoken
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not by the public, they can be different, they
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can be How they are connected with
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some kind of security actions and they are not connected, they are
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not absolutely absolutely people who
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distribute some kind of
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literature, as it was previously accepted, but
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creates some
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problems for the authorities, public and non-
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public, they can
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operate underground behind the scenes, but there are
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also forceful methods, some take on
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such a function, that’s
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how successful they are, it’s difficult
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say, you know, they are reproached for the fact that any
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calls for underground activities are a
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provocation, like, well, you’re
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setting people up by doing so. Well,
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firstly, people are all adults, they’re all fully aware
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of what they are ready for, what they are
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capable of, or are not capable of this,
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secondly uh, Everyone
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really decides for themselves, and secondly, it’s
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still
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political resistance, is it
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closed or not? If it doesn’t
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close, then any forms of such
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resistance of such resistance, yes, they
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cannot be a provocation, or rather,
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provocations are absolutely
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unacceptable because, well,
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then it’s generally necessary stop everything,
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do nothing at all, all sorts of calls in
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Russia to do at least something, it can be
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considered a provocation, so I welcome
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the work of the headquarters if
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we create maximum
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confidentiality security conditions that
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such headquarters can work of course,
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I want to talk to you now
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about Zelensky’s visit to the USA and
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about new support, including
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money, including weapons,
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shells, and so on from the
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United States, how do you think it was
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quite effective for Ukraine?
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Zelensky’s meeting was at the highest level
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and how much trust Zelensky has in general, how
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long do you think it will last
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will this support continue? Do you think the United States is ready
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to support Ukraine to the bitter end, to
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basically the last freed
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square meter?
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Well, on the last question, I’ll start with
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it. Well, first of all, the United States
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has proven that, in principle, they are ready to
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do this and with a natural eye on
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unpredictability Moscow dictatorship and
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tyranny, which can
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somehow behave in an
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unpredictable way using nuclear weapons, but nevertheless, 48 ​​billion
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are allocated for the next year to support
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Ukraine. It includes, of course,
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military assistance. But also other things, but
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nevertheless this is evidence that the
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United States is not stops this
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support and apparently even increases it Judging
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by the ratio of support and assistance and
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financial this year, this is the time for me,
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secondly, well, you know, how is this
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democracy?
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same public opinion That is, you
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are sending a signal to voters as
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Republican democrats, and so on,
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that we support
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Eastern European democracy in
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Ukraine, we are protecting it from the tyranny
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of Moscow, which seeks to destroy and
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enslave 40 million people. That is, you
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can no longer stop
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supporting in signed What is called
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signed If you want in blood Yes,
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because the transfer of weapons It’s about
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Life and Death War and Peace That is, those
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types of weapons that are transferred And this is
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Patriot defensive missiles
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but also a huge number of ammunition and
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other types of weapons This is
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evidence that the intention is
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serious and the movement is happening in the right
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direction. And if you look at what happened on
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February 24 and after it, if someone said
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that in 10 months they would give
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patrio missiles, yes, everyone would laugh and roll on the
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floor, you understand. And now this is already
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happening, plus we must honestly
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say that Zelensky everyone likes him in
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America, they like him there, here you have
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pictures now, there are even
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Republicans standing there who criticized Biden’s
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position on military aid and,
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so to speak, Zelensky criticized a lot of
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people, they, in principle, there was such a
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congress, Senator Sparks.
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That is, she is of Ukrainian origin a
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great critic of the Zelensky administration
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and yet everyone accepts everyone is
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forced to clap him standing ovation
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Both of them and others understand Why
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Because the leader of a warring
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country came, a man who was just on the
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front line and came right away
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Washington, this is certainly worth a lot to the
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Americans they appreciate it, you understand Well, and
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then there is another important explanation, you
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know this visit And this is the first visit since the
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start of the war symbolizes what
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can I say that Ukraine
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influences is dystonized and finally
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joins the collective West, that
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is, it no longer chooses anything, it does
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n’t decide anything anymore, it part of the West
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and this symbol, this is an important signal,
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it was sent to both sides of the ocean, so
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to speak, to the United States and to Europe
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and so on. That is, they made their
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choice; Ukraine made its president; the
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elected leader of the laws has arrived and
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he will have a lot of speeches about this
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passages were devoted precisely to this
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choice, you understand, we are defending the West,
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because if not us, then the Western
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allies will be forced to take
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this blow. Well, and so on, there was a lot of things
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scattered in speech, so this
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symbolic act is no less important
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because abandon yours now the
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most important ally of Eastern Europe. I
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think that the United States can no longer force this
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political practice. And many times this
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has happened simply and refuse
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Ukraine from its military support and to your
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question, Georgy, I will say Yes, most likely
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they will go all the way, we don’t understand where
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this end is only the liberation of
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the territory of Ukraine there, including except
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including Crimea, or is it up to the
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removal of Putin? In any case, an
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action that either leads to this, but
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nevertheless, the fact that they will go to the end in
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defending Ukraine, there is no doubt about this,
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not very
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good I I want to ask you about the
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story that seems funny to many with the shooting of
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Mr. Rogozin, the former head of
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Roscosmos, a longtime ally of Putin, but there are
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a lot of unknowns. I wanted to ask in
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general about this situation, about this situation
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specifically and in general about Rogozin.
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Because if you remember the day in retirement
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We’re here on the air so that Zhora
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and you can discuss with us that Well,
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probably now someone has transferred him to the Key
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post, but in the end, the
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nickname trampoline didn’t end up anywhere except for a
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cafe in the Donetsk region, that is,
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shot down or is it a pilot or some kind of- that’s a
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different game Well, what do you think about this
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situation with the injury to Mr. Rogozin’s fifth point?
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I already wrote about this in my telegram
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that Rogozin’s injured head is not as scary
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as his [ __ ] because it’s
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working. But in the sense that but he
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understands he’s Not for what else is
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he needed, he’s an eccentric type even in the
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apparatus of power. Well, as a journalist,
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just international
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journalism, comrades worked in Roskos,
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this is already nonsense. Well, it’s just
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some kind of person who was just engaged in theft
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and rockets fell from her, well, now they
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threw him over on Voronezh Well, as they
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used to say, he is the same combatant as a
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bullet from [ __ ], you know. Well, it’s absolutely
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ridiculous everything that he was honored with and this is
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a victim as a result of the shelling of
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this restaurant in Donetsk, there
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really is not a very long
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distance from there, look on the map,
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here is the house of the Ukrainian position and they, in
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principle, can target any
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object in Donetsk, in principle, if they wish.
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And that’s what they did, here the
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second point is important, besides now we will talk about
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his, which means promising appointments in
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some capacity, the fact is
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that information has recently passed about the fact that
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the Ukrainians purposefully wanted to kill
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General Gerasimov, the first head of the
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Russian army, when he was in
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April, it didn’t work, the scale was
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broken, but Gerasimov left there
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literally for some time, or maybe
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minutes, maybe hours, I don’t know, this is
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no one anymore, this is a mystery then, remember,
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it appeared that he’s even wounded, ah, well, it doesn’t seem to be
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confirmed, he wasn’t
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wounded, but the fact that they tried to kill
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was also confirmed by the American press,
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which referred to sources in the Pentagon
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who convinced the Ukrainians not to
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do this because God knows how Moscow
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will respond, you know, the devil will sort them out
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Therefore, Well, nevertheless, the very fact that Hmm,
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these people are the targets of
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shelling and want to kill, this is
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evidenced by the shelling in shesh-besh
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because of course they are shelling with the aim of
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killing the weather, you understand, they understood that the
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Ukrainian
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target That is, he is an enemy not to Ukraine
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military military has some kind of value
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or is it just a big Hari
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official, but at least that’s how I
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interpret it Well, he took so many causal things into his
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hands with a weapon,
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he means everywhere he takes pictures with a
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foreign-made automatic rifle, he wears a uniform,
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it means all this is in a helmet with horns and
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so on further, well, excuse me, my friend, if you
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found yourself in the affected area. Yes, even
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before this, it means that you posted photographs with the
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fact that you are supposedly fighting there or
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making weapons there, then you are already a
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legitimate target, there can be no talk of that
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you understand how, well, who are
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they reaching out to, you’re trying to kill, let’s say
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they reached out, then you decided to kill.
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As for the Novorossians, you understand
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this project itself, it somehow
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changed the value, so to speak, because well, we’ve
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talked about this many, many times in on the air of
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popular politics, but you understand how they
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declared these four regions to be Russian
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territories? Yes, after that they had to
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give up the Right Bank, just leave it
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because the Armed Forces troops were approaching the
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borders of the coast and could even drown the
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Russian group on the Dnieper so that it does
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n’t say now. Where is the guarantee
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that it is definitely the head of some- then there is
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the mythical Novorossiy Although the Constitution
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provides for the existence of only subjects of
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the Federation, how can this be
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justified Well, or one of the regions And
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tomorrow in the capital of this region,
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it doesn’t matter Melitopol or a temporary capital,
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as they believe, troops will appear, it’s just that the
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project itself, in general, is burning, you know, it’s going
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nowhere Well, or you can appoint Bakhmut as its mayor,
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how long will he stay there?
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So I think that in general everything has changed. And
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the Vector has changed. In this sense,
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maybe Rogozin himself no longer claims to be the
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leader of something like that,
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some kind of subject, or there I am a
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quasi-subject
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which he could be, so I
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think what came together here is that he himself is an
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[ __ ], of course, but also the fact that, in principle,
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now no one really needs this and
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today a large number of topics were
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given to us by Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin,
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who literally says at these moments
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his speech and talks about the war,
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talks about everything, including he said, I
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quote, all armed conflicts
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end in negotiations, the sooner
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it becomes clear to Kiev, the better
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we also have a video of how Vladimir Vladimirovich
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Putin told himself at least for
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administrative purposes, please turn it on,
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it means I’ve already done a lot since I talked about this,
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but our goal is not
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to spin up this flywheel of a military
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conflict, but rather to end this war.
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We strive for this and will stream.
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Vladimir Putin called the war a war. I
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hope our lawyers will
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write a statement against him in this regard. It will be
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interesting to see how he
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gets out of it. But here is administrative
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responsibility and of course I would like to
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ask you about the negotiations that
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Vladimir Putin spoke about, do you even believe that
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negotiations are possible now and if there is
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some point of contact that
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will suit both the Ukrainian side and Vladimir
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Putin and will allow
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the bloodshed to stop, or has this stage been passed and is
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impossible? In no
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way In your opinion, other than ending the
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war by military means.
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Well, by the way, as for the administration,
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but you don’t have courts. Therefore, yes, as trolling
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is good, but the
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Russian courts are a brothel, so we do
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n’t really count on it because
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they all need to be put under the knife, my deep
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conviction, but I I’m not imposing it on anyone, I’m
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kind of passing here But uh Well, as
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for Hmm, that means war is war Well, it
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was a war from the very beginning, to be
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honest, yes from the very beginning there was a war, it
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was all a play on words to persecute
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people, they are more for nothing who wanted
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whom they could call war who
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could not be obliged to say
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special operations within these terms to receive you
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understand therefore there’s
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nothing to even talk about here In general, it’s clear that
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all this criminal rhetoric is criminal
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on their part and as for
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the negotiations Well, look, it’s just that
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the Russian side is constantly crying in
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the negotiations, come on, let’s negotiate, come on, well,
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dear friends, they set
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the conditions for you to negotiate. Well, it will start
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liberating the territories tomorrow, start withdrawing
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troops from the territory, respectively,
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which were occupied, to begin with,
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immediately withdraw there until February 24, then
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slowly liberate Donbass, too, so to
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speak, in some reasonable time frame, about two or
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three weeks, withdraw troops, then you
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start sending troops into Crimea, let's
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electrify Crimea, you're always militarizing with this.
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So where militarize Crimea,
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and then we'll see how it goes,
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civil authorities will come there,
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law enforcement agencies of Ukraine
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you see, some kind of Peace process will begin there
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and then, of course, negotiations
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are possible because
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you will have to liberate the occupied territories
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because you occupied them. How can you
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start negotiations? If you are not going to
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fulfill the main conditions,
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negotiations will then concern
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issues that go beyond the
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territorial issue integrity
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of Ukraine, she is unconditional and look, the
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whole world has come to terms with this, he agreed, he
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accepted this position that yes,
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negotiations are possible; no one denies them,
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but for this, first you need to liberate the
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occupied territories and then all
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negotiations are possible and the
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security of their reparations and the
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Russian-speaking population is all that you want
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whatever you want But the subject of negotiations
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cannot be the
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territorial claims that
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Moscow declares, they cannot be just for
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him and then Well, let’s talk like that Well,
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okay, as if you are standing in Kiev, they took
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Kiev there, I don’t know Offer negotiations,
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why not talk Well, you you lose
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at least in the month of September, you
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cede territory over and over again. I’m
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starting with the Kharkov operation. But
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there were also troops from Kiev. Well,
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wait, in such conditions, negotiations from a
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position are strongly led by Kiev. And you
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don’t recognize this fact, continue to talk
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about what it means you are there successfully
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carrying out a special operation on the
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territory of neighboring Ukraine Well, this is not so, that’s why the
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negotiations are proposed and the terms are
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set by the strong one, and the country wins in
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this case, it’s definitely not Moscow.
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what we will get
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You get there First you get to this Kiev
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and then you will talk about negotiations And
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in this case, in my opinion, it’s still the same
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maneuver, the same attempt means to intimidate
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They’re That’s how it’s always the same because
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criminal psychology uh Jacques You
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can’t swear, it means I want to
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say, like in the nineties, Who’s going
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to [ __ ] whom up You see, if you don’t have
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the opportunity Yes, take the codes, then and
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as it were The one who knows how to
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use vocabulary masterfully wins, you understand, and
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sometimes you get the impression that he’s
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taking on on on here on throat like And in
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reality I can do this, you have to
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change, this is what it looks like, you know,
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and no one is afraid because, in fact,
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everything that happened During these months, you wo
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n’t see it. That’s all, but I
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hope for the Adam’s apple, while the Adam’s apple is also given to him
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С юристом Марком Фейгиным поговорили о поездке Зеленского в США, ранение пятой точки Рогозина, переговорах, о которых в очередной раз заговорил Путин, и о подпольном сопротивлении в России. «Ничего другого и не осталось. Разве есть какая-то другая форма сопротивления? Тогда стоит вообще отказаться от работы в России, если считать, что подполье так же опасно, как и публичная открытая деятельность». Гость: Марк Фейгин @FeyginLive Ведущие: Руслан Шаведдинов https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Георгий Албуров https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Помощь юристов и ответы на главные вопросы о мобилизации. Наш телеграм-канал: https://t.me/mobilizationnews Наш Patreon, где вы можете поддержать любимую передачу: https://www.patreon.com/Popularpolitics Станьте спонсором канала, и вы получите доступ к эксклюзивным бонусам. Подробнее: https://www.youtube.com/c/Popularpolitics/join Новости без цензуры: телеграм-канал «Сирена» https://t.me/news_sirena Наш список разжигателей войны: https://acf.international/ru/list-of-war-enablers Наш проект «Цены сегодня». Смотрите, как менялась стоимость товаров после начала войны: https://pricing.day/ Бот команды Навального: https://t.me/teamnavalny_bot Наши соцсети! Телеграм: https://t.me/politica_media Инстаграм: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Твиттер: https://twitter.com/politica_media Поддержите нашу работу! 🔸 Безопаснее всего делать это через криптовалюту. Биткоин-кошелёк: 3QzYvaRFY6bakFBW4YBRrzmwzTnfZcaA6E 🔸 Как купить криптовалюту с российской карты? Инструкция: https://acf.international/files/instruction.pdf 🔸 Наш Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Popularpolitics 🔸 Другие способы есть на сайте (в России открывается через VPN): https://donate.acf.international/ru

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