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[music]

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I only know that

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when I shine on others, I burn out my principle itself,

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so they say that you are always about the

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person.

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Yes, I treat the patient as I treat myself.

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Such a principle is a test given to

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a person so that he

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changes something in the life of the disease. It’s not just that

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it comes it comes because something needs to be

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changed Boomerang works what you

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highlighted then you get it everyone wants to

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live and whoever wants to live gets better you

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die along with the patient Everyone has a

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small

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cemetery when you suffer and

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worry It

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seems to me that everyone here has experiences Yes and

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hair surgeons, of course, have a long life

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[music]

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so you understand it all like

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this

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[music]

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[applause]

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[music]

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knit Semyonovna, it’s true that you

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roller-skated along the cliff Well, in general, there

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was a

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temporary period there, but that was what it looked like, you

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were there then doctor and on roller skates to roller skates

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yes Well, as a child I went in for the sport

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of figure skating, then roller skating

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was not a problem for me, life forced me

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to build Zone B and it was necessary to endlessly turn

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it on to function there through the

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basement. In general, through In general, pass a

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large number of kilometers and but she

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forced me to stand on roller skates, we didn’t

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judge, we discussed how bad it was, but

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nevertheless it had, in general, on the

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one hand, how would I drive and

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stay on until the end, someone there had

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injuries, someone else something else but in general,

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the videos played in my life at some

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stage. In general, a significant role You had the

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opportunity to get from the point quite quickly to

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one of our doctors. In one of

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our doctors, the husband somehow ended up in

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intensive care and I when somehow Well, at night

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in I mostly went on roller skates, I came to the

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operating room, I took off the roller skates, I put them on. Well,

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of course,

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the backpack was left there in the corridor with the

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roller skates and I went to the operating room. And when I

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was in the intensive care unit, it means that our husband is a

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doctor who came from the dacha, something like that.

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I’m going on roller skates. He thought, God. my

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phenomenon is some kind of thing. That is, he didn’t seem to

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expect this situation. But it happened,

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well, such a small stage,

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on the one hand

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it made it easier somehow,

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you know, on the one hand it made it physically

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easier, on the other hand, eating on

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roller skates, especially at night, under

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long corridors, what something internal, you

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know, some kind of inner

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joy, what can I say, but even at age

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you experience

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the joy of rollerblading

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[music] it’s

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very difficult for me to imagine, I’m a

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very down-to-earth person. Sorry, I

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can’t imagine myself having a journalistic education. This is the

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day of a surgeon who several times over

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day

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is faced with the question of life and death,

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well, you know how

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you don’t think about it, it’s it, you understand

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The process of formation begins from the cradle,

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let’s say so, at the beginning you’re there

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[music]

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the student then adapts you to the

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medical process, intern, residency, in

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general, the process is so slow, but

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it’s like -you know, consciousness goes unnoticed and

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becomes involved in the situation as necessary. And

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in the beginning, somehow, when you are young and have

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little experience, you seem to

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acutely understand when you need to tell the

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patient that you have acute surgery, you

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need to have an operation, some kind of

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internal responsibility. Personally, for me

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it was like I didn’t communicate with my colleagues,

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but this is an internal situation,

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it seemed to force me to be responsible

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and all the time you are in a state of such

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internal uplift, despite the

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physical labor and this

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emotional labor, you

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are always in a state of Hmm inner

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uplift something like that until a

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certain moment until you get old,

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this rise

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affects physical disorders

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Oddly enough, well, everyone has different ways

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thanks to sports, I was lucky that I

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still remained so active

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throughout my life, but wear and tear

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occurs, of course, against the background of such

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emotional work But I must say

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that with age, this is the situation. Yes,

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you are responsible and with age

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you treat the situation

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as you would have acted from the position of not

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only whether the patient needs surgery

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or not. And what else will happen after

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the operation? You understand, when there is an emergency

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surgery this is clear life or death And

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when elective surgery You must

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weigh how useful this operation is for

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this person, maybe even without

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surgery it will be better and he

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will live longer, that is, you see, this

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moment does not exist And since the present

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time dictates the need, it

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kind of obliges the more operations a doctor has,

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the more

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I don’t know about making money,

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doctors are

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those who work in the state

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system. The number of operations does

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not significantly increase their salaries.

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But the more you operate, the better.

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That is, you are responsible for everything.

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Or maybe even this

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operation should not be performed on the patient

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Oddly enough, you understand, and here it turns out

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when you already have experience and understand.

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You sometimes irritate the administration

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because

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you have

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your own kind of consciousness, but

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your inner essence goes against those

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instructions that come from above Against the

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system Yes, which are from above this one

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the situation is of course

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[music]

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your colleagues say that you are always about the

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person

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Yes, I treat the patient How to myself

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I have such a principle as this is possible

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lick Semyonovna I understand when there are two

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three four patients but you Well, there are a lot of them,

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dozens of them, a lot of them but you understand that’s why not

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I know in my head they seem to have resolved the situation

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and it somehow goes away, you move on to the

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next situation, it is resolved, you move

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on, but there are

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emotional moments when life is death,

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when you understand, when you have done everything

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And the patient has left, of course

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it is not indifferent to the heart, the doctor is

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not indifferent to anyone in my opinion so Well,

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at least for me it was like that

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you are also suffering Although your relatives

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do not understand You are also worried

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about the patient for your actions for some kind of

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analysis of the situation because it

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develops The

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final result Yes, the hospital

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stage of the nature of the provision of care beyond

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the hospital stage resuscitation

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surgery, that is, the result

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comes from a complex of work, many

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specialists, results, a

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simple situation, a sick stomach came, an illness

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or something else, and He came,

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saw and conquered a

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difficult situation

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[music]

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you are a believer.

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In this

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Christian system of meanings, from your

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point of view, a surgeon

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is generally doctor, let's take it more broadly, a doctor is

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the hands of God on earth or a person who

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argues with God and challenges his

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intervention, I honestly don’t

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think about it, I only know that

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by shining to others I burn, my very principle of

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such

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intelligence said yes, Judging St. Luke

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said I can only say one thing

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if a suffering person asks for help, then you

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can’t help him, you must provide him with this

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help, and the test of a person or an illness

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or a situation, they seem to come to

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him based on his own life

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because I once had an

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interesting case, well, this is again

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recently

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four probably three of

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one of ours

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[music] a

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nurse who graduated

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[music]

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Orthodox Jaws,

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well, I kind of knew it by sight and then she turned

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to me, she’s calling somehow, I

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think it’s Saturday or Sunday, my husband

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swallowed a bone

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and that means some more in the esophagus and well,

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come of course. So our doctors, I was

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n’t on duty that day, our doctors

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looked at him and let him go. Then she

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calls me again, again at some

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hospital where his sister worked,

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radiologists, they also examined the

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bones; they didn’t find them, then. So she

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turns to us again. We he was already

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hospitalized, they already accurately found a

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bone in the esophagus, they managed to remove this bone.

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Well, that is, you understand, these temptations

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and trials that this man had were

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unusual. I already told him before he was discharged, I

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say, thank God, now everything

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turned out well, everything went well without surgery, conservatively,

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but keep in mind, you must

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change something in your life because you have an

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unusual course, that is, you see, there is a

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standard course of the disease, there are

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some unusual tests that Yes,

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yes, of course, and here it means somehow

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two or three years pass. I can’t

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say for sure, suddenly he calls my wife is in pain, her

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husband ends up in the Votkinsk hospital, in the

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Votkinsk hospital they put on an

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aortic dissection, my God, and in our conditions, it means they

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transfer him to our institute because they are

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soon providing help to patients, that is,

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our institute is providing assistance to patients with

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aortic dissection, they are now sent to

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go Because there is cardiac surgery there is

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angelography which can stent,

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that is, there are conditions for providing assistance

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to this group of patients and So he is brought

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here to us. Strangely enough, Uda is coming.

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Well, I’m not saying this, of course, has a high

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mortality rate because the aorta is clear, the

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arch is dissection and that means

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something through two days later, I decided to

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visit him. He was operated on, but she

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called me, basically on

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artificial ventilation when I went into the

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intensive care unit, he was exploited. He

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recognizes me. He recognizes me and says

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Hello, I don’t even remember what

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his name is, endless congratulations to me.

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But that’s not what I’m talking about, he’s talking to me in my

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consciousness After such a difficult operation, He

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recognizes me and, as it were, You understand this,

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with the course of the circumstances that

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happened in this person’s life and that’s how

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everything turned out, he was discharged and that’s all thank

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God Well, this is the situation I’m kind of

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telling an example when

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tests are given to a person so that

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he changes something in his life; illnesses don’t

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just come, they come

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because something needs to be changed so

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that the body is compensated on the physical level

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and naturally on the

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spiritual level, but also something

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has changed Maybe it’s not true there

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Because there are some

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people who, you know,

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walk straight until they fall, but

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sometimes you have to listen in order to

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serve or do something like that, that is, to

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continue your work, sometimes you have to

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stop in time to look back in

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order to to preserve his essence and

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continue to be useful, that is,

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all these things they are, as it were, maybe I didn’t

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say so emotionally about this

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situation, but what you see is this is the

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most severe pathology that happened to him

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And here is our next meeting

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that I him after excursion in consciousness,

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you know, because the patients and those who

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have artificial circulation,

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who have a lot of blood loss,

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aortic replacement, you know, he

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survived this operation, you know, and here he is

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in consciousness, and that’s how everything went easily and

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we meet again, that is, you understand,

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these are the problems with this bone of

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which there is only one on the other hand, this bone

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must be the cause of death

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in the esophagus because the esophagus is located

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in the mediastinum next to the heart, next to both

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pleural cavities, I kind of

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say that this is a small

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example of a

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person who should have changed something in

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his life but changed it

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Well, his life illnesses have

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stopped. I guess I just don’t communicate with him, as

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they say, but Well,

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this kind of situation would be unusual.

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I think so. But some people don’t hear, there was

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some kind of thing that’s also

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fashionable now.

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Hang gliding and back and forth and so on

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means he fell there were severe injuries,

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I don’t remember, we pulled him out. I tell him in your

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life you need it, he doesn’t hear me, I

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tell him you need to change something in your life, there are

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people who hear you, your

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recommendations. But I don’t hear, they just don’t

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hear. Well, that’s why

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what happens next

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Well this is how life is, well,

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it listens.

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So this is how

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[music]

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in general, it seems to me that these extreme

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sports are one of the types of

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substitution for

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acute experiences, the need for them

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arises maybe in those cases, but not

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always, but often when there

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is some kind of emptiness inside a person and I really want

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to fill the feeling with something, in this

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sense, it’s easiest to fill it out, for example,

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these motorcyclists

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are a terrible thing, you know, it’s just that

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some people realize it, there are

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people that I’m sometimes interested in, they

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are sporty, you know, very much so,

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well, how to say people with intelligence not

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only you know so go for a ride Well, they have

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intelligence, they’ve been there for 10 years, but

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the situation was unforeseen, as it were, and now

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he couldn’t cope. In general, I must

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say that the virus doesn’t hear, the amputation of

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one leg, it’s still moving and

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will go further, it’s necessary in the future not to stop it.

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you

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end up with motorcyclists Well, naturally, they

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often end up in intensive care and naturally

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Motorcycle injuries are the most severe

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trauma because it is insecurity,

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severe concussion, and Indeed, this is a

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serious injury, these are patients who then end up in

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multiple organ failure because,

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well, in general, with a great loss with

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multiple injuries, of course this is

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in old age that’s why the injury

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happens Well, it’s like this

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and when it starts now we even

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call them I don’t know, the ambulance, in

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my opinion, calls them snowdrops, the snow is

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just melting now, too, we were traveling by

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taxi and the motorcyclists are already

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starting their lives. Well, you see how

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the youth cannot be stopped, we even have

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two resuscitators, girls who are now

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grown women, they rode a

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motorcycle when they were resuscitators, but

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since having given birth to a child is already a responsibility,

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they are already kind of yes

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[music]

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surgery they say this is not a

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woman’s profession at all.

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Well, I don’t know. on the one hand, yes, when you are

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young and you are brought up in certain

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conditions and you are directed, then of course yes,

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my parents, my father was a surgeon,

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he worked for more than 50 years, and they always

00:17:41

told me that a woman should have surgery, there is nothing

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to stop, but it was impossible to

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stop me because in those days there was

00:17:47

still Amosov professor Kiev professor

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who began to study

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cardiac surgery and this

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youthful perception of surgery, it

00:18:00

certainly affected the psyche and only

00:18:03

forward sports

00:18:05

surgery and desire Of course, this is all

00:18:10

it seems to me. I guess I’m not saying

00:18:15

that this upbringing doesn’t raise me,

00:18:16

I should be a surgeon No, on the contrary, they

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dissuaded me, but this is an internal

00:18:20

obsession, I see now young

00:18:22

girls have also come to us. They want to

00:18:25

undergo surgery, I look at them as a pity

00:18:27

because

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Well, if you do real surgery,

00:18:31

it’s a lot of time at work, then

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day and night in order to take place

00:18:37

as a specialist, especially now there is a lot of

00:18:40

information, a lot of new technologies, other

00:18:44

approaches. Well, I don’t know. At least I feel

00:18:48

sorry for them because after all, a woman

00:18:50

should be a woman, she should have a

00:18:52

family, she should have

00:18:54

children, who also need to be paid attention to.

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Well, here you need to make a career and write

00:19:00

articles to work day and night

00:19:03

in general, if the court were like there were more

00:19:05

hours, then this is probably acceptable, but also

00:19:09

plus good health, that is, you understand, there are a

00:19:11

lot of these factors, but also the heart of a

00:19:14

lion

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00:19:21

I know about you, again, insider

00:19:24

information, you don’t care you,

00:19:29

how he will be a top manager of an oligarch of

00:19:32

some kind before, Or for example, a person without

00:19:35

documents, homeless, the relationship is absolutely the

00:19:39

same, but how is it that

00:19:43

he just needs

00:19:51

human life very often When

00:19:55

someone finds out the status of the person in front of him,

00:19:58

a gasp begins, you know, I want to

00:20:01

say Boomerang works what you highlighted

00:20:04

then you will get understand I live by

00:20:07

this principle so for me it does not

00:20:10

exist I

00:20:11

treat everyone equally

00:20:14

but the distance should be the distance between the

00:20:16

patient and the doctor this is What distance

00:20:19

Tell me What distance

00:20:22

I can’t even say that is you

00:20:24

shouldn’t talk familiarly Well,

00:20:27

it’s understandable distance, that is, you understand,

00:20:29

too, like a sister, distance with a nurse,

00:20:31

so with a doctor and in general with all of me with

00:20:34

young people, if colleagues are my age, I

00:20:36

treat them like one of my own, but with young people I have

00:20:39

a distance, I call them only by their first

00:20:42

name and patronymic, only this way but it’s very

00:20:45

cool It seems to me that when a young

00:20:49

specialist is addressed by his first name and patronymic

00:20:51

because the awareness of one’s

00:20:53

own responsibility is activated. Perhaps I don’t

00:20:54

know, I say again, I’m not a psychologist.

00:20:57

Well, it seems so to me. Well, maybe I don’t

00:21:00

deny, of course, the distance allows you to

00:21:04

probably manage the

00:21:07

situation because, for example, seriously

00:21:11

ill people they begin to be capricious Yes, and

00:21:13

exhaustion is coming about him They are tired of the disease,

00:21:16

problems begin and here

00:21:19

you act harshly

00:21:22

either there or How to say You should You

00:21:25

should now it’s true that the relatives are

00:21:28

not allowed in by the sick, but when there

00:21:32

the relative is still an intermediary because the

00:21:34

service staff are now

00:21:35

nurses for him We have some that seem to

00:21:38

perform this function, but in any

00:21:40

case, this one is so tough. It’s like.

00:21:42

Now I come into contact with

00:21:44

intensive care patients, then in the department, but

00:21:46

still. Anyway, this distance is there, it

00:21:48

exists, that is, that

00:21:51

is, the official distance is not what do

00:21:54

you know how I don’t know I’m generally a dry

00:21:56

person by nature dry I don’t

00:21:59

know how to do it you know how to get emotional maybe like this well

00:22:04

clearly always explaining the situation I explain

00:22:08

you someone needs to do something at

00:22:11

least the patient should understand what are

00:22:13

they doing with him to realize and keep up

00:22:17

with thoughts

00:22:19

the direction that he needs,

00:22:22

many of us understand the patients don’t even know

00:22:25

what’s happening to him where is he there

00:22:27

you explain why this is needed Why this is

00:22:30

needed This is so that it is

00:22:32

like this and then it already exists the resultant, that

00:22:35

is, everything should be consciously and if

00:22:38

nothing good awaits the patient

00:22:41

despite your efforts, you will tell him it

00:22:44

means in a

00:22:46

soft, streamlined manner, I am not killing the patient, at

00:22:51

least if he, for example, has an

00:22:53

incurable disease, then all the same

00:22:56

Hope leaves that yes it is necessary,

00:22:59

some are needed - then there are also new events that

00:23:02

these things are

00:23:04

at this stage they matter, but

00:23:07

nevertheless

00:23:08

you still have prospects never

00:23:12

4 weeks there

00:23:15

never in your life Why does someone think

00:23:18

that on the contrary it is important

00:23:20

to prepare to realize no

00:23:22

prepare to realize I am the enemy you

00:23:24

can’t kill This kills a person.

00:23:29

I

00:23:31

can’t say it, we don’t even call it,

00:23:35

thank God, so I worked for a while

00:23:39

when I graduated from the Medical Institute, which means I

00:23:42

worked as an

00:23:43

oncologist for a year and I couldn’t lie to young

00:23:47

women, I left oncology. Although it would

00:23:50

seem to me that yes, we will solve the problem in

00:23:53

oncology.

00:23:56

Well, how can I say youth, you know how it

00:23:59

solves all problems, and I mean,

00:24:03

I worked for a year in the Podolsk hospital

00:24:06

as an oncologist, and when you see

00:24:08

these mutilating operations, removal of the mammary

00:24:11

gland, removal of the pelvic organs in

00:24:14

young women, I don’t know what the

00:24:16

setup is now in those days, it was like this The

00:24:18

mortality rate was high, especially for

00:24:19

young people, and this is all I also

00:24:22

suffered with them,

00:24:24

and therefore this is all, but somehow I left

00:24:28

oncology That’s because, well, how can I

00:24:31

say Deceive You can’t

00:24:34

deceive them, you have to dodge in order to

00:24:36

get her this woman don’t kill it,

00:24:39

then a law came out that sick people can

00:24:42

speak openly. And some patients,

00:24:44

for example, even they don’t have cancer, someone

00:24:47

said something and some of them are already

00:24:50

losing their lives so that

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[music] they do

00:24:56

n’t live through this difficult period,

00:24:58

I don’t know. opponent

00:25:01

[music]

00:25:07

In the life of every oncologist, at

00:25:09

least one such case is an obvious

00:25:12

miracle and the intervention of the Lord God, when there

00:25:20

could be no expectations on the part of the doctor and

00:25:23

suddenly the person gets better.

00:25:26

I can only say that it is not in surgery that there is a

00:25:29

difficult situation, here are two patients with

00:25:33

the same pathological processes one

00:25:36

patient one woman there is getting better

00:25:38

has 5-6 ribs there or something else

00:25:40

there and the second one I’m not getting better I’m also here’s the

00:25:44

head Spirit also matters, fortitude

00:25:50

is of great importance Well, as for

00:25:53

oncological processes, but some are

00:25:57

radical and live and 10 and 20 years

00:26:01

I’m not saying that this is when everything

00:26:04

is done on time, I’m not again, everything depends on the

00:26:06

form of the degree of differentiation of the tumor, that

00:26:10

is, you see, there is an evil course, there are

00:26:13

highly differentiated ones, these are good but

00:26:15

not good, but in any case not so

00:26:16

fast, age matters That is

00:26:19

there is a lot here and how a person works on

00:26:21

himself, it’s not easy to be passive. Here

00:26:24

I have chemotherapy, they did radiation, they did

00:26:26

something else, but you also need to work with yourself,

00:26:35

what is most difficult for you in a relationship with a

00:26:39

patient is when, for example, you see

00:26:43

cooperation on the part of the patient, he is

00:26:45

ready

00:26:47

to fight with your illness it’s one

00:26:51

story But you have to Sorry if

00:26:53

the patient doesn’t eat, for example But there are such

00:26:55

capricious ones I don’t know Now they even transferred to

00:26:58

us from some hospital, which means

00:27:00

empyema of the pleura a skeleton arrived with only eyes

00:27:03

he’s not Russian I don’t know what

00:27:06

nationality there are black eyes here such

00:27:08

risks of years came who does not eat, they

00:27:11

put a central vein in him,

00:27:13

we drip a probe there, but he doesn’t want to eat, they decided to

00:27:17

let his wife in so that she could start

00:27:19

feeding him, that is, the doctor comes and

00:27:21

forces him to eat, you understand, there

00:27:24

are also such subjects

00:27:28

to work with the patient, he needs to It’s not just

00:27:31

about indoctrination. But you know, how would

00:27:33

this define you?

00:27:35

Everyone wants to live and who wants to live. As

00:27:39

I understand it, this is why we need that

00:27:41

distance between the doctor and the patients

00:27:43

that you said so that you maintain

00:27:45

your status. Absolutely

00:27:47

right. Yes, and did not at all did not walk on the same

00:27:50

line Oh my, I don’t know some of them

00:27:53

my dear ones here I understand the name and patronymic

00:27:56

I explain that you have suffered such a serious

00:27:58

injury you must be all right in order

00:28:01

for you to do this This is

00:28:04

this and this is all if a person understands you

00:28:07

No problem, but some people don’t understand

00:28:10

before, some sometimes there are

00:28:12

relatives who also put spokes in the wheels,

00:28:14

they start and the doctor didn’t come on time,

00:28:17

lunch was brought cold there, you understand,

00:28:20

this also happens, that’s how it often

00:28:24

happens with relatives, I most

00:28:27

often end up doing just that on the other

00:28:29

side of the Barricades. Thank God

00:28:31

no one in the family is particularly sick, but very

00:28:35

often I hear complaints

00:28:38

about doctors that they didn’t

00:28:40

examine something there, they made an incorrect

00:28:42

diagnosis, etc., please tell me

00:28:44

what’s happening at the same time, arm in arm

00:28:47

towards the Barricades and that maybe there is

00:28:49

no Barricade there at all. But there are

00:28:51

some

00:28:52

many things, for example, we have

00:28:57

some little things there. Well, for example, this is the

00:28:59

last time. So the patient is also

00:29:01

who many years ago, 25 years ago, as

00:29:04

it turned out, I operated on him there; there was a

00:29:06

severe chest injury and he lawyer there

00:29:08

was a narrowing violently a lot of things happened

00:29:11

In short, we hospitalized him;

00:29:13

he had another exacerbation against the background of

00:29:16

Broncho

00:29:18

broncatotic disease, which is the

00:29:21

most severe purulent to bronchitis, and that

00:29:23

means the situation means he was

00:29:27

brought food there at the wrong time, the food is cold,

00:29:32

the endoscopist is late, which means he doesn’t eat there

00:29:35

half a day the endoscopist was released late, you

00:29:38

understand

00:29:39

But this does

00:29:40

not depend on us because the

00:29:43

endoscopists also have some kind of plan, we

00:29:45

have planned this And there are these

00:29:47

layers that sometimes do not depend on us

00:29:49

Well, Well, it happens or for

00:29:52

example, one operation was planned in

00:29:54

a row there is no anesthesiologist either

00:29:57

again, it depends on us or the operating rooms are

00:29:59

busy, you are standing in line in the operating room,

00:30:02

you understand the operation was postponed, this is also

00:30:05

the patient did not drink, did not eat, these are

00:30:07

the nuances that begin, or, for example, with

00:30:11

histology, too, there are not two or one and a half

00:30:13

you have to consult or

00:30:15

send somewhere else in order understand what it is and a

00:30:18

person, for example, serves as a service to the esophagus, what

00:30:21

happens to him, well, administer parenteral nutrition

00:30:24

into a vein, well, in general, you understand

00:30:25

these nuances

00:30:28

that we don’t pay

00:30:30

attention to, but for the patient it’s

00:30:32

stress,

00:30:35

and how

00:30:38

can a doctor protect himself from this very

00:30:42

flow of negativity which is inevitable in

00:30:44

such situations on the part of close

00:30:47

patients means the only thing

00:30:49

I can say is to treat the patient

00:30:50

with respect, if the patient feels that

00:30:53

he is being treated with respect,

00:30:56

then

00:30:57

complaints are not born. Well, maybe if there are

00:31:00

only isolated ones there.

00:31:03

It’s clear. If you are disrespectful to the patient.

00:31:06

Well, for example. Well, such a situation happened there.

00:31:08

You apologized or came over. Well, you

00:31:11

just understand, we talked like a human being,

00:31:13

that is, he saw this

00:31:15

sympathy, as if human, now

00:31:18

you understand the coldness of the coldness of the coldness

00:31:20

Flow Flow and there is nothing

00:31:24

of humanity too

00:31:26

apparently too really

00:31:29

systematized has become

00:31:31

standardized and he has a doctor there’s not

00:31:34

enough for everything, that’s just enough

00:31:36

human attitude, this resource will be taken

00:31:38

if it’s not the person in front of it

00:31:42

because it’s set by the conditions of the patagonka,

00:31:45

now computerization is going on, but I

00:31:47

mean these computers while you’re going to

00:31:49

remove the paper medical history and while you’ve

00:31:52

turned on this computer

00:31:54

now same if you have We have a system. I

00:31:57

mean, well, how are you, there are

00:32:02

still cats? Well, of course, a medical CT scan,

00:32:05

which is also here on the computer. You

00:32:07

have to look at this and in order to

00:32:12

evaluate all this, it takes you a lot of time.

00:32:14

must print You must print

00:32:16

because you also have

00:32:18

consultation standards, some minus points you

00:32:21

get if something is not paid there,

00:32:23

written, it is not completed sometimes not for

00:32:26

your reason. For example, for a hotel and ultrasound,

00:32:29

they forgot to write something there or did not

00:32:31

write but they didn’t delete it from Well,

00:32:34

you see, all this, it takes up a lot of

00:32:37

time, of course, we do

00:32:38

n’t have any time left for patients. You have to Now,

00:32:41

if earlier you could write and decide for yourself

00:32:44

Which antibiotic you can’t decide,

00:32:46

now the doctor has introduced a

00:32:48

chemotherapist who

00:32:52

prescribes antibiotics But you know that, that’s

00:32:55

why you understand all this,

00:32:58

well, that’s the bed the day before

00:33:02

the patient was treated there for 2-3 weeks. And now

00:33:05

we don’t spend a maximum of 7 days, but what

00:33:09

if the patient was admitted with a

00:33:11

lung abscess with empyum And pleura, how can we

00:33:13

cure it in 7 days? And she we have a turnover we have

00:33:16

a turnover we have to

00:33:18

discharge 15 patients per day according to history

00:33:21

now the manager who to discharge how much

00:33:24

to discharge we reported all this Oh this is

00:33:26

all every step is now controlled

00:33:29

[music]

00:33:35

is there

00:33:37

professional cynicism among doctors?

00:33:41

Is it medical cynicism

00:33:44

or is it a myth

00:33:46

cynicism You have what do you mean by the

00:33:48

concept of cynicism? Well, you know those

00:33:51

pictures like a

00:33:53

doctor

00:33:55

opening the body of a dead person

00:33:57

who maybe I don’t know smoke

00:34:00

there shake off the ashes

00:34:02

students can allow no such thing there is no

00:34:05

cynicism towards the patient No I don’t know, at

00:34:09

least in our department there is a

00:34:10

cynical attitude but I don’t know the doctor

00:34:13

never the laws did not treat the person, do not harm

00:34:16

anyone, there may be some kind of mistake, but to

00:34:19

harm on purpose, I have not

00:34:21

heard such a thing, believe me No no, not to harm on purpose

00:34:23

But it’s like cutting off

00:34:26

everything human inside yourself And what can be

00:34:29

reversed is it being formed This is

00:34:32

Slowly, responsibility is gradually being formed in you

00:34:34

it increases

00:34:36

the responsibility you are responsible for the patient

00:34:38

You should Well, don’t go

00:34:41

home if, for example, the patient you have there is

00:34:42

not drained pneumothora to the essence of the

00:34:45

patient and you Well, I just don’t know how I have

00:34:48

n’t met this and as for

00:34:51

our profession as for others I

00:34:54

I can’t speak, but as for the

00:34:57

zone where I, as they say, function,

00:34:59

it’s as if I don’t see it, no

00:35:02

You may not sleep at night because of one of the

00:35:05

patients,

00:35:06

situations like this don’t happen every day,

00:35:09

you suffer,

00:35:12

you die with the patient. Everyone has a

00:35:14

small cemetery when you suffer and

00:35:19

worry,

00:35:21

maybe those cases of cynicism that

00:35:22

they talk about when Well,

00:35:26

doctors try not to get too involved, not to feel,

00:35:28

not to sympathize with the soul, maybe

00:35:32

this is such a defensive reaction To

00:35:33

avoid this pain that you

00:35:35

just talked about when you die, I don’t know

00:35:37

It seems to me that I can only say.

00:35:40

When I read it, remember

00:35:42

Bernard, who transplanted a heart for the first time

00:35:44

means a heart transplant in the world.

00:35:49

By the way, he was with Demikhov

00:35:51

and

00:35:54

no one even paid attention to him

00:35:56

when he was here,

00:35:58

Demikhov studied philosophical principles, these are the principles I’m

00:36:02

talking about I read the book he, I don’t know,

00:36:04

he wrote or someone wrote his words

00:36:08

when he wrote that he operated on his

00:36:11

son there, it means a doctor with whom he once

00:36:15

studied at the university. And there was

00:36:18

some kind of major congenital

00:36:20

heart pathology and he was so worried there I don’t

00:36:23

remember what happened to the child after that, but

00:36:26

he was so worried that his daughter was a divorce,

00:36:29

there was something else, he even, well, for him, it

00:36:31

seemed to pass by, you know, well, he passed by his

00:36:34

own problems at home,

00:36:37

which, as it were, yes, he was all in this

00:36:39

situation because he was so

00:36:41

worried about this situation, which is a

00:36:43

child, this is what he didn’t even

00:36:47

notice that his daughter was separated, his wife was putting pressure on

00:36:49

him, you know, that is, this is

00:36:54

all me too. And I had such a situation, my

00:36:56

son entered the Institute. It would seem like

00:36:59

joy there - Some doctor was admitted here, the

00:37:01

chief physician turned out to have

00:37:04

destructive appendicitis and, uh,

00:37:07

bacterial shock developed against this background. Well, you

00:37:09

know, with doctors, everything is not the same as with people,

00:37:11

some pathological processes

00:37:15

develop in an unconventional way. Why don’t I know, this is how it

00:37:18

happens,

00:37:20

doctors don’t agree - humanly and you

00:37:23

couldn’t be happy for your son and

00:37:25

imagine I would have done the same thing, I

00:37:27

rushed over. He studied at an aviation

00:37:29

institute, something like that, but for me it

00:37:31

was I was all there, you know, because the

00:37:34

patient suffered bacterial shock and they

00:37:36

removed the

00:37:37

purulent empyema of the vermiform

00:37:40

appendix against the background of peritonitis Well, somehow I’m

00:37:42

like you know here and at the

00:37:46

same time I had this

00:37:48

separation so much that I’m this

00:37:50

situation it

00:37:54

outweighs so to speak a Is this correct what do you

00:37:57

think Well you know what And what this is

00:37:59

correct, you don’t, you understand here

00:38:02

Correctly Wrong,

00:38:03

you need to answer for your actions before God and the law and your

00:38:06

own conscience, this is the highest court, that’s

00:38:09

all You just understand, this situation was not

00:38:12

fatal, thank God

00:38:13

you understand, but but you’re not here You see,

00:38:17

Bernard is getting a divorce from him he is his daughter at this

00:38:20

moment

00:38:21

and then after some time his

00:38:24

daughter dad comes up to him I needed you so much

00:38:26

Why didn’t you support me Where are you

00:38:29

because you understand her health How to

00:38:32

say Health is here Life and

00:38:35

death And here health you understand

00:38:39

it turns out It’s not like

00:38:41

you’re weighing this situation, that it’s

00:38:45

impossible, I’m saying it again here and that’s why

00:38:47

you have to come on Saturday and Sunday

00:38:49

because your soul hurts, you need to

00:38:53

go look or there’s something else there, not

00:38:55

because you were obliged to go at the beginning

00:38:57

that you have to go. Yes, everything should be

00:38:59

fine but some operations You

00:39:01

understand that if you don’t go and

00:39:03

wash the drainage and you definitely, even

00:39:05

if you called, it will still wash it wrong,

00:39:07

well, I’m saying this purely and still you

00:39:10

go and because this is it and the more the

00:39:14

further the more you are responsible

00:39:16

in front of the patient, oddly enough,

00:39:19

before it was somehow easier

00:39:22

[music]

00:39:29

and what does responsibility to the

00:39:31

patient mean, is it the Hippocratic Oath or what? Yes,

00:39:34

I don’t know how much this is not an oath, it’s just

00:39:36

that you are responsible for your actions.

00:39:40

This is more

00:39:41

responsibility for your actions

00:39:45

you see, that’s why I don’t know,

00:39:49

you’re worried, you’re worried, I’m emotional

00:39:52

about this, of course, yes, there is a certain

00:39:55

percentage, and the same cardiac surgeons may

00:39:59

not have such experiences in cardiac surgery, but it

00:40:01

seems to me that there are also experiences

00:40:03

because there, it’s clear that you will miss the heart,

00:40:05

you won’t miss some peculiarities In general, it

00:40:07

seems to me that the experience here is gray

00:40:09

hair, surgeons, of course, for a long time

00:40:12

[music]

00:40:13

in life

00:40:17

No, I’m serious, because

00:40:21

for this you need, of course, I understand,

00:40:23

to discharge yourself somehow

00:40:25

Well, who discharges the same thing, shining on

00:40:28

others, I burn myself Yes, but of course yes to me That’s

00:40:32

all I am - somewhere around the age of 35, probably,

00:40:35

I became very tough at 30 before in order

00:40:40

to endure, that is, endure

00:40:42

heavy loads, I was starving on the beach there,

00:40:47

in general, that’s all Plus Sports, which

00:40:50

was there from my youth, all this, all

00:40:53

taken together, gave me how I wish

00:40:56

I had some kind of endurance in order

00:40:59

to

00:41:00

withstand all this, but there is no other way out,

00:41:04

either you succeeded or you didn’t

00:41:07

succeed, no, you give something, oh, so

00:41:09

of course I always say a woman is a

00:41:12

man’s friend, of course a woman. Growing

00:41:15

up in surgery is very difficult,

00:41:19

very difficult, listen, but there is an instinct

00:41:22

of self-preservation, there is this feminine

00:41:25

principle connected with the family, you are a son, you have

00:41:29

grandchildren. Well, that is, you have someone

00:41:31

to take care of, someone to devote yourself to, but

00:41:33

you know, and in a different way, not because there

00:41:35

you know, you have already formed as a

00:41:38

person and are very it’s difficult Well, how can I say, it’s

00:41:41

very difficult, it’s

00:41:43

probably possible

00:41:46

to split into two, it’s impossible either there or here,

00:41:49

or you’ve made it and you’re living in surgery. And

00:41:52

you used to have

00:41:55

women there at our Sklifosovsky Institute who

00:41:57

had

00:41:58

big husbands, who were housekeepers, this is still

00:42:01

there in the 60s. And of course it all seemed to

00:42:06

make it easier later, our generation lived

00:42:09

freely in such worse conditions. That’s the

00:42:13

only way, either it’s good that you come

00:42:17

home

00:42:19

and everything is as it should be, of course the children, the

00:42:23

children suffer, or someone should

00:42:25

take care of the children, someone should

00:42:28

take care of everyday life And then Then you need to

00:42:30

prepare dinner, and then in general, in

00:42:32

short, all this is not easy, and even more so

00:42:34

Children get sick, I’ve never

00:42:36

had a single sick leave in my life at all, I don’t feel bad about the

00:42:39

child, when my son was sick,

00:42:42

what happened Well, thank God he wasn’t sick

00:42:45

Wow

00:42:47

Wow, even this is necessary here. Either this or there

00:42:51

should be a housekeeper to get married.

00:42:54

Some of us here got divorced because

00:42:56

either the women are at home or there,

00:43:00

so I don’t understand. No, he should be, he should

00:43:03

also be either a surgeon or a

00:43:05

physician so that he understands what kind of work this is

00:43:10

because that there is no other way or there should

00:43:13

be a housekeeper who must

00:43:15

do so

00:43:17

that there are more cutlets at home, probably that’s why

00:43:22

all this is not easy, and then there

00:43:26

must also be growth, not only do you

00:43:29

work there day and night, you still have to

00:43:31

grow, you have to go to the library now, it’s

00:43:33

true life has become simpler computer You

00:43:35

can order translations there and there

00:43:38

but still [music]

00:43:40

But it takes time and you have to have a head

00:43:43

and you also need some kind of force

00:43:46

that should guide you in the

00:43:47

right direction the environment is

00:43:50

also of great importance and then

00:43:53

a lot depends on if you

00:43:55

type I always walked straight ahead

00:43:58

without turning anywhere This is also bad

00:44:02

on the one hand you do

00:44:05

n’t mean walking on your feet now but the fact that you are a

00:44:08

straightforward person yes it’s absolutely

00:44:10

true and

00:44:12

some women see their height

00:44:15

differently

00:44:17

[music]

00:44:23

Semyonovna was not in your office at the

00:44:27

institute, thank you thank you very much With

00:44:30

pleasure in general I just wanted to

00:44:33

ask, I heard about it and read that

00:44:36

you have a

00:44:38

very large iconostasis and there are icons there that

00:44:43

turned out to be Solovkov

00:44:47

Yes, and Solovkov has, in general, different

00:44:49

rooms here Tell us about those that

00:44:51

Solovkov also some wonderful

00:44:53

story is connected with them. One of your

00:44:55

colleagues had a grandfather who was shot and

00:44:58

died. Well, we had a gynecologist who was

00:45:02

deceased, too. She means her

00:45:05

grandfather was a priest, they were

00:45:08

repressed, and they had an icon of God so

00:45:11

you know double like how to say I do

00:45:14

n’t even know how to say correctly when

00:45:16

Jesus Christ and the Mother of God this is a

00:45:18

wild warehouse Yes, probably a warehouse and it was

00:45:21

dark I wanted it too some

00:45:23

Orthodox woman she offered me

00:45:25

Well no I wanted to restore it and ask

00:45:28

her imagine there he was in

00:45:31

such a silver case and he suddenly began

00:45:33

to shine and everything and everything appeared she

00:45:36

stood as if on my closet When there

00:45:38

was no iconostasis she never came to

00:45:40

Orthodoxy so she then passed away

00:45:44

somehow everything somehow everything

00:45:46

they weren’t human in life, but she didn’t admit it,

00:45:49

she was such an atheist, just like that. That

00:45:52

is, she gave you my grandfather’s icon

00:45:54

as if it were a real person that I wasn’t

00:45:56

absolutely right, but many and some

00:45:59

patients were who were there too, they were so

00:46:03

ancient to me, too, when Well somehow I don’t know,

00:46:06

in general, they gave it to me, they are there. Well, you

00:46:10

see, she became enlightened and

00:46:13

Come look, just like that, you

00:46:15

didn’t do anything, not absolutely. Here

00:46:18

she stands and that’s it. And even she even seems to

00:46:21

know this Silver iconostasis, it’s

00:46:23

like it even shines I don’t even know I do

00:46:26

n’t even wipe anything, it shines

00:46:31

Come look

00:46:34

like this

00:46:35

[music]

00:46:42

I read in an article about you

00:46:46

about a case that was connected with the St.

00:46:51

Demetrius

00:46:52

Sisterhood of Mercy it was taught by

00:46:55

you taught there you gave a course of

00:46:58

lectures there I know people who have heard your

00:47:00

Brilliant lectures. I know people who

00:47:02

have seen how you operate, they

00:47:04

admire you, they say that these are

00:47:06

incredible hands, besides the fact that the surgeon is from

00:47:09

God. And also these hands, which are

00:47:11

colossal, self-disciplined, and there is

00:47:14

no one like you.

00:47:17

I’m telling it as it is, sorry. insider

00:47:20

information is all that I have collected and here you are, that

00:47:23

is, surgeons are so white bones in the

00:47:25

medical medical environment, as they

00:47:27

say Elite doctors

00:47:31

Behave decently

00:47:34

and everyone is cutting these hair Mercy is

00:47:36

asking you to help somewhere Clean the floors of

00:47:38

someone Shave your leg

00:47:42

You are not can you tell us what was happening to you then

00:47:44

at that moment, here at

00:47:47

that moment you are a candidate of sciences, now you are a doctor of

00:47:50

sciences, you are a professor, you are honored on all

00:47:53

fronts then you were a candidate of sciences Yes,

00:47:55

just a little bit, so to speak Well, I’m okay, I

00:47:58

resigned myself, I went and by the way

00:48:00

Orthodoxy humbled me very much

00:48:02

very much humbled me I was like that, not only did

00:48:05

I become softer from behind Well, how can I

00:48:08

say surgeons They are generally

00:48:09

a little like that yes But in general I became softer more

00:48:13

generous but I humbled myself humility

00:48:16

came to me

00:48:18

in a number of cases it is sometimes not necessary this is

00:48:21

humility Sometimes you have to show your teeth,

00:48:23

well, I’m not in the world, maybe those who

00:48:28

understand you don’t need teeth But for some

00:48:30

they are just yes

00:48:32

But as for Well,

00:48:34

yes, I washed all the corners, I even shaved my

00:48:38

leg,

00:48:40

I prepared the patient for surgery, but I

00:48:43

resigned myself, you said I later

00:48:45

I spoke out on this matter,

00:48:51

I spoke out later when I was given

00:48:53

the task, I then spoke out and I was once again

00:48:56

made to understand that humility is

00:48:59

[music]

00:49:06

after all, the status of a surgeon Yes, a person on

00:49:09

whom a lot depends on both in the

00:49:12

life of the patient and in the department, if we are talking

00:49:15

about this is some other position

00:49:18

Well, and so on. All this, in principle,

00:49:21

encourages you to,

00:49:25

well, how can I say this, to such a

00:49:27

feeling of peace when you are Well, not exactly the Center of the

00:49:30

world Yes, but this is not at all about humility, that

00:49:34

is, not Awareness of one’s measure,

00:49:37

that’s what I really like I would like to hear your

00:49:41

thoughts, maybe

00:49:43

share your experience of being a

00:49:46

surgeon and going through these I don’t know

00:49:52

temptations, maybe, so to speak, in

00:49:54

human terms,

00:49:56

ultimately returning to that state

00:50:00

that is called humility, to be

00:50:03

honest, this all happens

00:50:06

unconsciously, that is, you, on the one hand,

00:50:10

you Media Well, how humble you are, you don’t go into

00:50:13

conflict, you’re more generous, you’re not so

00:50:16

principled, although there are things that

00:50:18

are principled, but when it comes to professions

00:50:21

and when it comes to human relationships,

00:50:23

there you are somehow.

00:50:26

Well, what should we do with

00:50:28

emotions? Although emotions don’t rule the world.

00:50:32

Well, that’s how

00:50:38

I deal with myself No, somehow I didn’t even

00:50:42

think about it, I don’t forgive myself No, it shouldn’t

00:50:44

be I’m suffering, it’s just

00:50:47

like that But I don’t express it in

00:50:52

anything You know, there are people who say it emotionally,

00:50:54

they say it’s all in themselves

00:50:57

Well, what to do And what to do therefore

00:51:02

in your own time, my late father

00:51:06

told me women without any That a flower

00:51:08

has no scent,

00:51:10

you know, in a woman there should be how to

00:51:13

say then and it’s easier to live, you know, but you

00:51:16

have to play it, but this profession

00:51:18

takes away all these emotions from you and

00:51:21

you just don’t care not interesting I don’t

00:51:23

know, it doesn’t work, I

00:51:24

can’t, to play you need strength,

00:51:27

you know, you need strength and it makes a

00:51:31

woman’s life easier, but

00:51:34

[music] it

00:51:36

turns out that you walk straight

00:51:41

You try, you try not to offend anyone,

00:51:44

but strangely enough

00:51:46

I’m just now coming back,

00:51:50

I’m trying not to offend people to be

00:51:53

generous but only I know Boomerang

00:51:56

he works

00:51:59

that he singled out that and received it therefore Be

00:52:02

generous Goodbye

00:52:06

in spite of everything I sometimes look

00:52:09

at

00:52:10

some people there The

00:52:13

time will come

00:52:16

[music]

00:52:21

and how do you understand the Gospel commandment

00:52:24

about loving yourself, love your neighbor as yourself?

00:52:28

it means that in the idea of love, I

00:52:32

honestly don’t think about it, I

00:52:34

never loved myself, the only thing I

00:52:38

had was sports for me, I had such

00:52:42

moments when I got joy when

00:52:45

you swim, you spread the water, when you are in

00:52:47

good shape, you swim,

00:52:50

cut through the shape when you are in good

00:52:52

condition behind the wheel, you drive and take some turns, you

00:52:55

allow yourself

00:52:58

to figure skating. I haven’t skated for a long time,

00:53:00

but nevertheless, even on roller skates. This is

00:53:03

during the night period. Here you are driving, you

00:53:06

get pleasure from it,

00:53:08

well, such moments, but what concerns the surgery of

00:53:12

pleasure, you know Well, I don’t know, maybe

00:53:14

someone gets

00:53:15

some, you know, there is a standard

00:53:18

operation, there are non-standard ones, I got it

00:53:20

all for a moment Fold Elk a moment of

00:53:23

some kind of internal thing,

00:53:25

I don’t want to say satisfaction for a

00:53:27

moment then it passed Give God

00:53:29

for the patient to get better Well, he got better and forgot,

00:53:31

it all goes away and is

00:53:35

washed away Well, at least in my

00:53:39

perception

00:53:44

[music]

00:53:46

and you are a happy person, to be honest,

00:53:48

it wasn’t intended probably thank

00:53:51

God Probably since I lived with interest and worked on

00:53:57

some scientific research were Well,

00:54:00

probably yes it happened, as Like a mother, like a

00:54:04

grandmother, this is probably happiness. Although by

00:54:07

the way, I don’t think about it. Thank God

00:54:09

that my arms and legs work. It’s still in my right

00:54:12

mind,

00:54:14

but you’re already starting to think about it because

00:54:16

sometimes you look at this age-related character

00:54:19

at women who act

00:54:22

your age I noticed that the

00:54:25

safest people are

00:54:28

accountants,

00:54:31

artists who have a range of emotions, but

00:54:34

not those who accept. So

00:54:37

translators,

00:54:41

translators because all the time work

00:54:44

work work here. Wait Let’s

00:54:46

figure it out accountant Why accountant I do

00:54:49

n’t know the numbers we’ll save otherwise it’s a

00:54:51

brilliant intellectual form but

00:54:54

sometimes you know long-livers, so I also

00:54:56

paid attention to people with physical labor.

00:54:58

I don’t think it’s

00:55:00

genetic. Maybe I mean, let’s

00:55:03

preserve the intellect. Sometimes

00:55:05

very tall women come in. I’m interested in what you were

00:55:08

doing there,

00:55:10

and that’s what I noticed, that the range of

00:55:13

emotions, these emotions when a person is everything

00:55:16

time in emotions, this is the work of the brain,

00:55:20

this is the category of people who

00:55:22

have such preservation of

00:55:25

writers, I don’t know, although they

00:55:28

all also have

00:55:29

all sorts of characteristics, and writers are especially

00:55:32

emotional poets, writers, they

00:55:36

took some to extremes. So there

00:55:40

may be very different options,

00:55:41

this is more copper But about the artist, that

00:55:44

is, it turns out that they throw it out of themselves, they do

00:55:46

n’t hold on to this

00:55:47

range of emotions, this range of

00:55:50

emotions from a tear of laughter, you know, they

00:55:54

live all the time and secrete this Adrenaline, you

00:55:57

know, they live on

00:55:59

adrenaline, let’s say so Of course,

00:56:01

they also have specifics But of course, women are

00:56:04

actresses. I somehow came into contact with

00:56:06

several, this is generally a

00:56:08

very difficult

00:56:11

psycho-emotional category - I don’t know, I do

00:56:14

n’t seem to communicate with them, but as with

00:56:16

patients, this is not an easy public,

00:56:20

so with patients it’s better better,

00:56:23

but you’re in brilliant shape, although you not a

00:56:27

translator, not an accountant, not an actress, you are a

00:56:31

surgeon, you are the same

00:56:33

professional whose work is

00:56:35

toxic, as they say now, that

00:56:38

is, complex and with consequences for the

00:56:43

soul and heart, you constantly carry

00:56:48

within you the pain of other people for them, this pain

00:56:51

lives with them, and you are in

00:56:54

in excellent form, I think that after all,

00:56:56

this is probably given

00:56:58

if you behave accordingly, it is probably

00:57:00

given to you. I think so what

00:57:04

thoughts are such actions and what you highlight is what you

00:57:06

get because it’s

00:57:09

all so interconnected, especially since life

00:57:12

after death exists as a couple world and

00:57:14

I live in this I believe deeply I believe I’m

00:57:17

even trying to convey to the consciousness of our people I

00:57:20

tried But here I don’t know now somehow the

00:57:22

person stopped, the Energy

00:57:25

machine but not only of course it has its own

00:57:27

field if a healthy energy field is a healthy one and a

00:57:30

sick person is in

00:57:32

pain it needs to be corrected by the question of how

00:57:34

these healthy people can also be influenced and a

00:57:38

person can get better. But this is still

00:57:40

the future

00:57:42

and life after death, you

00:57:45

talk about it with such confidence. For many,

00:57:47

this is an open question and, in general, the moment of

00:57:49

passing the place of death. I think why I

00:57:52

sometimes draw conclusions like this. For example I have a

00:57:54

son more in life How to say

00:57:57

he is more mature than me he is more, as they

00:58:01

say, he reasons soberly I for example,

00:58:03

well, like a child, sometimes you know,

00:58:06

rash, not like rash

00:58:08

actions, I decide everything Questions to ask in two

00:58:10

minutes or due to the fact that I am used to

00:58:12

deciding everything quickly You need to think, you need to think about

00:58:15

it, but what you need to think about is that everything is

00:58:16

clear. That is, you see, he is more, he is more

00:58:19

practical than me. I am very unpractical in life

00:58:22

and I just see that my

00:58:24

soul is

00:58:25

probably less mature than his, so it

00:58:29

seems to me because that he is more

00:58:31

practical in life

00:58:33

and I am the

00:58:34

same, my brother is also more me, although I used to put

00:58:37

pressure on everyone, now

00:58:39

I have become more generous, I retreated and,

00:58:42

as it were, yes

00:58:45

Well, what to do, times are changing

00:58:48

Maybe, thank God I don’t know the strength in women,

00:58:52

her weaknesses

00:58:54

than weaker themes stronger but probably but

00:58:58

I’ve never used it Probably

00:59:00

this should be brought up in a child for a girl

00:59:04

these characteristics need to be brought up I

00:59:07

won’t finish three years old she’s already a

00:59:09

female person she already understands although we were brought

00:59:12

up in different conditions

00:59:14

somehow this is asceticism of

00:59:17

our time, post-war children

00:59:19

were, as it were, after the military, and this asceticism

00:59:22

seemed to be welcomed now, on the contrary.

00:59:25

Well, you see how times change,

00:59:28

but children need to be raised. This is what I came to the

00:59:31

conclusion that throughout everything you sing

00:59:33

[music]

00:59:40

[applause]

00:59:41

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