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correct prayer, how it is

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characterized, how it is achieved, how

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it is possible not to lose attention

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during prayer, what is its

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purpose. Oh, how wrong you asked

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the question, what a feeling, I thought that I

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had come here, here only the perspicacious

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have already gathered, and I I see you are not at all

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perspicacious if you ask me such a

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question, I don’t know myself, I don’t know, but I read

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the following I read the following in general, keep in mind

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that theologians who go through the

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Academy there become professors

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very often these are the people who remain

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worldly; you hear from your soul the whole bag of

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passions is

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untouched. you know, like

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some kind of jewel, a treasure, all the bastards live there in

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peace,

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but they read something, something, so you

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need to ask them what they read

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on this or that issue, if

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they read something sensible and reasonable, then

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you can listen to them what they read Well

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so in this case I can only

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share what I read and I want to

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tell you that if someone

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really wants advice I read read

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St. Ignatius of Mortality he has

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Magnificent ones just literal

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literal These are articles in his his About

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prayer About prayer two whole parts of the conversation between the

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elder and the disciple of the Jesus Prayer are

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simply beautiful things in which

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everything is set out in detail, it seems to me

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quite clearly and distinctly. What are the

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main provisions of Ignatius

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Rinchinov he is referring to? By the way,

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he is not just writing his honor and dignity from himself.

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Look interlinearly, continuous

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references to the holy fathers, that is for those

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who themselves have walked this path, who have been in

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this prayer, who knew all the dangers of

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obstacles,

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what is the main thing, what does he pay

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attention to first about him, he

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says the one who wants to at least

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learn to pray a little,

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firstly, it is very important that the soul

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has no evil left for anyone a

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person must be forgiven by everyone in his soul,

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sometimes you know put on the

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soul the soul must reconcile with him I

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know that asking him for forgiveness is

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useless, it will cause even more

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fury, maybe even more insults Even more anger,

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understanding that I must

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reconcile with him in my soul, you

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hear as long as I don’t

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like everything. We can’t talk about prayer, it’s

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nonsense, it will be the only thing I can,

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Lord, help me

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to reconcile, maybe this is the

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only thing that can be prayed for. Hear, this is a

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very important matter, the prayer of a

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person who is at enmity with

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someone is not accepted. - you hear inside yourself, you need to

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reconcile inside, by the way,

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Barsanuphia the Great advises even so

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gives such advice BP snof The Great is

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truly Great when you are tormented by

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thoughts of anger at your brother and you

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cannot free yourself from them

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By the way, it torments your nerves and body and

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soul everything in the world And it doesn’t let you sleep yes

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Probably you know this, we all know that

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he gives such advice Pay attention,

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it’s worth remembering

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say say this doesn’t mean just

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say it once but say Say in

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your soul my brother is better and holier than

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me and forgive me

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Lord say soul resists again

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say my brother is better and holier than me And

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forgive me

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Lord He affirms and those people who

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followed this advice directly

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confirmed this short words Surprise

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your

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soul

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amazingly you know it like some kind of

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simple healing balm my brother is better

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and holier than me forgive me Lord this is the

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first

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condition the first condition without

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which prayer cannot be

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successful

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the second that he emphasizes St. Ignatius

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Renna

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prayer is called only what

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is done with

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attention prayer without attention

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he says then reading the words of the prayer without

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attention This is an insult to God you

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hear even how he speaks he says

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which is not about the fact that

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we are again

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forcing ourselves from God and not

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prayer in connection with this, we

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notice something very important. What we should

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pay

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attention to is how much we pray in front of

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all sorts of icons and relics and at prayer services, and

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I don’t know just what

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we pray for about our troubles, sorrows, misfortunes

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and suffering

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and

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we receive nothing

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and

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nothing

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Why do we

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pray the first without trying on the second within ourselves?

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We don’t so much pray as

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we order, we submit a

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memorial to the Proskomedia for a prayer service, and

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at this time we ourselves don’t know where we are: in

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Australia with kangaroos or in America with

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little black ones and nothing

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we get where there is no attention there is no

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prayer this is his second position is

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very

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important

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then he then says that

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the prayer here he turns to the Jesus Prayer

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should be read or pronounced

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slowly and with

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reverence

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slowly and with reverence and repentance

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he especially emphasizes these three conditions

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attention, reverence and

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contrition of hearts we have the World Cup for everyone

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to repent and therefore prayers about

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this is

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another very interesting remark of his

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that he takes from Isaac the

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Syrian Isaac the Syrian gives such a

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strange one, I’ll tell you and just an

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unusual example, you know, Eastern People are so

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fond of it, you know, a tributary character

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this figurative Here and here Isaac the Syrian

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writes imagine

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what the king will do

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with that

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beggar who has been trying to get a reception from him for a long time

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and when

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the king finally

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receives him he asks the king for

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pus what kind of anger strikes then this

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beggar

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this is a parable and the explanation

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and the explanation you know

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what We least of all pray for

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deliverance from passions and forgiveness of sins

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we pray What do you want to know about?

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Take a recorder and go to the line

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Well, someone Matrona

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Kotova Write down and here are 000

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answers I don’t know God forbid if you

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find at least one answer

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one that would sound like this I

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pray that God will help me

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get rid of

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envy probably no probably not a single one there

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will be all the answers will be What are you

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praying for my liver hurts And my

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spleen

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is not healthy And I’m still building up And

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I have that son And I have I have a husband and I have a

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brother And my

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materialism is pure materialism That

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is, what will rot, what

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is

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pus, what this prayer testifies to,

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I don’t believe you, Lord, that you

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love, I don’t believe that’s why I pray to you, Well, at

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least not my foam in the fire, at least heal it.

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you won’t even know what What should

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I do Isaac the Syrian says don’t

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ask

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God for anything if you believe

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him don’t ask for anything he

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says only about one thing Lord

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have mercy and save me for this is the root

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and there

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will be healing

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of the soul all the good things will follow as a consequence

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when But you ask for

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pus, then only God’s wrath strikes you

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and that’s why the miraculous

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icons rush around the relics in holy places,

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giving notes everywhere And the cart and now

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remain without fruit

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Why because they ask for

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pus from the king Oh what a parable Oh what a

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parable but it’s not according to the gut No according to the gut

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something completely something not at all

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uninteresting how is it But how can it

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be And how can it be answered Ignatius

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Rancha answers How can we be when we are in

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grief Whoever is in pain is talking about the same thing

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speaks and cannot help but speak

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How to be and teaches it is very important It is very

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important how to be here so that we do not turn out to be

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that worthless beggar who

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got a reception from the king and asked for pus

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How to be

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answered Lord, you

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see that I want your Will to be done and

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not mine I I believe you,

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have mercy on me, you

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hear Whoever

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watched the film The Passion of

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Christ saw What a

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cruel horror the suffering of Christ is And

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now

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remember how he prayed in the

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Garden of Gethsemane, however, not mine but your Will,

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he who knew what was

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coming to him Compare our sorrows with the

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suffering that he

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endured, not mine but your will be done It

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seems to me that this explanation

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is this holy explanation Oh how we need to

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remember if we

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really want to receive from God Lord,

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not mine but your will be done I believe that

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you are love and you are

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wisdom You see that I want your will be

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done will have mercy on me, this is what

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a beggar should come to the king with if we want to get something, we do

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n’t want it. Well, let’s

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continue And submit notes about the spleen and livers

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