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hello sclerotic00:00:02
from sclerotic to you Hello Yes00:00:06
No, it’s not good that we didn’t remember00:00:09
the name of Viagra It seems to me that this is00:00:11
very correct And the third girl’s name00:00:13
was Timakova I remembered Absolutely00:00:15
right, we didn’t remember the00:00:17
name of Viagra at all, we didn’t remember the name of00:00:19
Timakova This is what I mean by saying that we00:00:23
on Fridays they promised to respond to00:00:25
your remarks comments questions00:00:27
questions a little hate a lot Well what to do00:00:30
means look Thank you for reminding00:00:33
Timakova's last name Thank you for reminding00:00:38
ViaGra00:00:40
she won't forget00:00:43
Thank you for reminding about Svetlogorsk00:00:46
that it was not on the Curonian Spit then on the day of00:00:50
his death Sobchak was in Svetlogorsk00:00:54
let’s wrap it around well Yes, we also reminded you of the name of the00:00:56
director of the doll program Yes Vasily00:01:00
today Vasily Pichuk Unfortunately,00:01:03
lives gone early00:01:04
Grigoriev was Grigoriev Yes Vasily00:01:08
Grigoriev is the producer who00:01:09
actually bought the rights to the French00:01:11
program for the French let’s say00:01:14
the original French doll program There00:01:17
the point was that there were00:01:20
certain technologies for its production.00:01:22
This was bought, as far as I understand00:01:24
the French. How to make these dolls. What00:01:27
size should they be so that00:01:32
they look best in the cameras in the frame?00:01:42
Bezrukov started in this program as a00:01:45
person who voiced the voices of various00:01:48
politicians. And there, by the way, Vasily was not only there, the00:01:52
director was there, Alexander was00:01:56
there, there were a lot of people who00:02:00
developed this program, what do00:02:02
you know? Shenderovich’s dolls are often said.00:02:04
No, well, Shenderovich was00:02:07
certainly one of the authors. of00:02:10
the scriptwriters there were many other00:02:12
people there was a huge group of works But it’s00:02:14
not all about that, we still agreed00:02:18
that we should start with some kind of00:02:21
topical issue Yes, what a topical topic we have today00:02:26
Well, how everyone is discussing00:02:30
Nagorno-Karabakh that it no longer exists00:02:33
the conflict is over00:02:35
to the cities of Karabakh Apparently it will be00:02:38
liquidated or not, it’s not00:02:40
clear yet, but00:02:43
what do you think about this?00:02:48
I’m00:02:49
not so deep in this topic, I00:02:53
understand so poorly how it works,00:02:55
and so on, that it’s unlikely that my judgment00:02:59
will have any00:03:01
serious weight But if you want, I can00:03:05
say that it seems to me that when00:03:08
this conflict had just begun, that is,00:03:12
in the early nineties,00:03:14
and even before the Soviet Union, in my opinion, it was00:03:17
in the late 80s, if it were the eighties.00:03:22
Yes,00:03:25
then, after all, when did this war begin?00:03:29
I understand00:03:32
Karabakh, the00:03:35
Armenians who live in Karabakh, they00:03:38
[music]00:03:39
not only liberated the00:03:43
independence of Karabakh itself, but they00:03:46
also seized the territory of00:03:49
Azerbaijan, which they themselves did not recognize as00:03:51
Azerbaijani,00:03:53
and the actual Azerbaijani population was00:03:56
expelled there and explained it in such a00:03:58
way that they are thus creating a00:04:00
buffer zone so00:04:01
that Azerbaijanis will seem to00:04:04
want to attack Karabakh, then the war will00:04:08
take place on Azerbaijani00:04:10
territory itself, which by that time will be00:04:11
empty there. These empty cities, villages00:04:14
that00:04:15
stood for 20 years, stood for 30 years, were not filled, abandoned by00:04:20
Azerbaijanis of their own00:04:22
Azerbaijan, there is a huge00:04:24
number of Azerbaijani refugees there,00:04:26
I don’t know that there was a chicken egg there, the00:04:29
Armenians say that they were the first to start the00:04:31
pogroms of Haiti and Baku and then we drove out the00:04:34
Azerbaijanis and in fact these are00:04:36
all there. There was a massacre and so on, but the00:04:39
Azerbaijanis say on the contrary that00:04:40
first the massacre began in Karabakh and00:04:43
around it and only then those who arrived from The00:04:46
Azerbaijani refugees staged Karabakh,00:04:48
served, so to speak, as a trigger for, uh,00:04:52
pogroms in Baku,00:04:54
but one way or another, this whole00:04:59
case that began with the fact that Karabakh00:05:03
wanted to declare Independence and that’s how00:05:08
these military00:05:10
clashes started, which led to the fact that00:05:12
even the territory that the Armenians00:05:14
recognized the Azerbaijani did not capture00:05:16
and did not want to give up they lived for 30 years with00:05:19
fruitless negotiations. It seems to me that00:05:21
in general this created a certain00:05:25
imbalance in00:05:29
this conflict, let’s say an imbalance of00:05:33
sympathy I would say so00:05:36
because well, it’s clear that you know the UN, as00:05:41
you know, recognizes both principles as00:05:44
fair and the right of peoples to00:05:46
self-determination and sovereignty,00:05:48
territorial integrity00:05:50
And at a time when these two principles00:05:54
come into conflict, the UN does not have a00:05:58
strictly prescribed procedure for how to00:06:00
resolve a conflict, so every time00:06:02
creativity begins and so on,00:06:05
ultimately it depends, of course, on the00:06:08
degree of sympathy that world00:06:10
public opinion00:06:11
has for one side or another.00:06:15
and in this conflict, from the very00:06:18
beginning, after the Armenians00:06:22
captured, in general, a territory that00:06:24
even they themselves admitted was not00:06:26
Armenian and expelled the population from there, it00:06:30
seems to me that at this moment they00:06:32
lost that part of the00:06:35
sympathizers that they could have had00:06:39
if they had not done this.00:06:40
they simply declared Independence, they fought for the00:06:42
independence of Karabakh itself,00:06:45
although in general they are against separatism. I do00:06:48
n’t like it in any form, but I am00:06:51
aware that there are people to whom this idea is00:06:54
close and which evokes their00:06:57
sympathy00:06:58
Catalan Catalan separatism Bass00:07:01
Serpovitism Chechen separatism and so00:07:04
on you can even say on Crimean00:07:06
sympathism Although now we can’t00:07:08
have Bavarian separatism, it’s true, not00:07:12
with some slightly caricatured forms,00:07:14
no one is trying to express itself,00:07:16
is not going to, or like Scotland,00:07:19
Irish separatism is actually quite a00:07:21
tragic story. That is, this is a common00:07:23
thing. So, even Belgium wants00:07:27
to be divided into two parts00:07:32
was divided, that’s why here it’s like a00:07:36
question of interpretation has a nation’s right to its00:07:40
own statehood there are no00:07:41
precedents in Kosovo and so on huskies00:07:47
my attitude towards this is that it is necessary to00:07:50
deal with each case separately there00:07:52
if so to speak there are no objections00:07:56
they divorced they kissed00:08:03
But here this balance of sympathy00:08:06
that was there for both sides00:08:09
in general was a priori00:08:13
assumed to be skewed in favor of00:08:15
Azerbaijan because the00:08:19
Armenians of Karabakh appeared in such a strange way. They00:08:23
relied, of course, on the support of00:08:24
Armenia, which in turn relied00:08:26
on the support of00:08:27
Moscow, and this situation has been here for 30 years00:08:32
it stood in this form until00:08:34
Azerbaijan built up its army and00:08:38
resolved the issue00:08:41
militarily. So00:08:43
he decided to restore00:08:46
his sovereignty on the territory that00:08:48
was internationally recognized as00:08:50
Azerbaijani, and so on, will there00:08:53
now be any ethnic cleansing in00:08:56
Karabakh? big question,00:08:59
I don’t think that Aliyev and the00:09:05
Azerbaijani leadership actually want it00:09:09
because, in general,00:09:12
as a result of this whole story,00:09:16
measured from the beginning of the 90s, yes, they generally00:09:19
received some kind of moral Carte Blanche,00:09:23
and if ethnic cleansing begins, they will00:09:26
very quickly and the Armenians, so to speak, from00:09:30
their entire diaspora, will definitely make sure that00:09:32
some00:09:33
appropriate scale is given to this. Especially when00:09:35
superimposing this on the story about the Armenians00:09:39
in Turkey about how they treat this in00:09:42
the West,00:09:45
but excesses are certainly inevitable00:09:49
because among the same soldiers there are00:09:51
many Azerbaijani those who are00:09:53
either descendants or children or00:09:56
actually those of whom.00:10:00
Taking into account the Southern00:10:04
mentality, so to speak, I do not rule out that00:10:09
excesses on the ground, so to speak, are inevitable00:10:12
and this needs to be treated very00:10:14
harshly. Here we will see how00:10:16
new this Azerbaijani army00:10:18
really is, how new the00:10:20
soldiers are there disciplined as far as they are00:10:22
able to control their emotions00:10:26
I for my part would add00:10:28
I am an00:10:31
Amateur this is what I see from the general00:10:35
picture that they know00:10:37
I would just like to say I too in the00:10:41
sense because00:10:42
I always honestly admit I have00:10:47
always tried to avoid the topic of00:10:52
Nagorno-Karabakh the topic of the00:10:55
Azerbaijani organ conflict or00:10:57
Azerbaijan Armenian conflict because00:11:00
this conflict is so acute that00:11:03
it is so painful and delicate00:11:06
that even00:11:08
people react to what word00:11:11
you said first reacts to the order of00:11:13
words you say Azerbaijan Armenian00:11:15
conflict No they will say this means you00:11:18
support the Azerbaijani side and the00:11:21
conflict is Armenian you call some00:11:23
side first, then you mean that you00:11:26
will support it Well, or vice versa or vice versa00:11:29
or you or you again, someone is looking00:11:31
at this so if you call00:11:34
some side you consider this side a00:11:36
victim A Or vice versa or you support her more,00:11:39
but she is a fascist00:11:44
German invader. Why not the fascist Germans right here, the00:11:47
main thing is not a fascist, not that they are00:11:50
I recently interviewed00:11:54
Arkady Milman, who was the00:11:58
Israeli ambassador to Baku back in the 90s, then he00:12:01
By the way, there was also an ambassador in Moscow, a00:12:02
well-known00:12:04
person in international diplomatic00:12:08
circles, by the way, an excellent storyteller,00:12:11
he spoke very emotionally about00:12:14
his memories of his view of00:12:18
this event and he said that believe me,00:12:21
I believe that it was a more complex00:12:25
tangled knot of contradictions00:12:27
of mutual claims and very complex00:12:31
backstories than the Arabs Israeli00:12:34
conflict It’s the Israeli who says it’s00:12:37
more difficult for them than for us to negotiate00:12:41
I’ll just note one thing00:12:46
Putin, it seems to me, I don’t know whether00:12:49
you agree with me or not That’s how he00:12:52
hated Pashinyan, who came to00:12:54
power as a result of essentially a00:12:56
revolution in 1918 in Armenia,00:12:59
that he’s ready was in order to do something00:13:01
bad to him Just refuse the support00:13:04
that Russia previously provided to Armenia,00:13:07
I have such a clear observation00:13:12
you don’t think so, I do00:13:14
n’t think so,00:13:17
well, put yourself in Putin’s place00:13:20
and he has a war going on in Ukraine,00:13:22
almost all00:13:24
capable armed forces are at the00:13:26
front00:13:28
What does it mean00:13:30
to fulfill your obligations?00:13:32
This means you need to remove several00:13:36
brigades fully armed00:13:40
there and join in. This is what00:13:50
the visit was dedicated to, they00:13:52
actually00:13:56
understood that they had arrived,00:14:00
you think Yes, but because the connection00:14:04
they are sitting with, the war passed When in the twentieth00:14:07
year,00:14:08
three years They waited to slam00:14:11
this box and what were the circumstances waiting for00:14:15
when they would develop so00:14:17
that they were guaranteed that Putin would00:14:19
not be met00:14:22
he has only one option Go to the00:14:24
side the winner the winner is00:14:26
predetermined Well, what’s the point of00:14:28
transferring three brigades from somewhere out of00:14:30
reach00:14:33
in order to put them in a war with00:14:35
Azerbaijan with the guarantee that00:14:36
you will lose00:14:40
these three brigades there in a week to grind00:14:47
and come to him00:14:55
Everything Well,00:14:58
how can I help00:15:26
you don’t see what is happening Yes I see but00:15:30
[music]00:15:32
us Peacekeepers he Zakharova speaks and00:15:36
shouts protect the Russian peacekeepers they are00:15:38
there to they protect in order00:15:40
to protect,00:15:42
you understand, that’s why there00:15:45
is a well-known story about Napoleon,00:15:49
you know, when he came to the Guard, one of00:15:51
my favorites says why there are salutes and the00:15:54
commander of the Guard says there are 1000:15:56
reasons for this, the emperor he is called, start00:15:59
from the first no, that’s enough, that’s the00:16:04
point00:16:07
of empty wanted not Putin wanted00:16:10
to be a traitor and so on there was no00:16:12
way to help with this you can00:16:13
finish the rest you lost influence there00:16:16
in the region00:16:18
a long time ago he lost he lost a long time ago He00:16:21
needed to speak against you from the very beginning00:16:25
and from the very beginning00:16:29
you can’t change anything00:16:32
you need to be friends with Turkey00:16:36
Azerbaijan there is no one else you00:16:38
began to be friends with Iran, mind you Well,00:16:42
okay, if you want to be friends with Iran, then00:16:43
keep in mind00:16:47
that you will not solve your problems.00:16:48
Friendship with Iran, I cannot help you. In the00:16:51
long term,00:16:55
this is contrary to all my interests,00:16:58
my interest in being friends with Turkey be friends with00:17:00
Azerbaijan and so on, I feel very00:17:01
sorry for you, you are our brothers, so to speak, we have a00:17:04
huge diaspora, you are the same Christians,00:17:06
as it were. Therefore, instead of my00:17:08
military support, here is good advice for you:00:17:10
make peace with the Turks,00:17:13
forget this whole story, of course, you00:17:15
can drag around some gentle00:17:17
formulations cut through there in the00:17:20
fifteenth year and so on and so00:17:22
on Here But, but don’t push this topic, you don’t00:17:25
need it You’re now in a showdown, you don’t have00:17:29
the strength and support enough for this00:17:32
confrontation00:17:33
Especially considering the fact that you have00:17:36
this hemorrhoidal slave that you’re doing to00:17:38
yourself say00:17:42
But let's see, let's see, that's00:17:50
what I waved my magic00:17:53
wand at. Putin is perfect, so to speak,00:17:55
his wings have grown, he is a Saint and he00:17:56
works for Armenia, what they are00:17:58
counting on is that he will get into a full-fledged war.00:18:03
But this is the same story as00:18:05
what the Arabs were counting on when they Israel began00:18:07
to lose the war that the Soviet Union would00:18:08
enter the war00:18:10
seriously, you and I understand that00:18:13
Brezhnev would never have agreed to this00:18:16
economic policy and everything in00:18:19
economic well-being00:18:20
is based on the fact that he sells00:18:22
hydrocarbons to the West00:18:24
then there was no smell of China yet, you00:18:26
understand how seriously consumer and00:18:28
carbohydrates00:18:30
and India, too, this is the only one by the way, as00:18:35
a result of the war,00:18:36
to fight Yes, well done, for what is the most00:18:40
important thing That’s why I don’t Victory over00:18:42
Israel00:18:45
Victory over Israel did00:18:48
not give anything to Brezhnev The00:18:51
results of the war of 73 years of the previous year a lot00:18:55
and Dali because the oil embargo was00:18:59
declared by the00:19:01
states and as a result, prices on the market00:19:05
jumped in an unprecedented way, this coincided00:19:09
with the emergence of new fields in the00:19:11
Soviet Union, just then00:19:13
these famous00:19:16
West Siberian oil places were discovered,00:19:23
big oil was found and prices00:19:26
soared And00:19:30
historians of the00:19:32
Soviet economy said that the00:19:34
decrepit Soviet Union was suddenly spilled A00:19:38
rain of dollar oil in the amount of00:19:40
approximately 300 billion is estimated in00:19:43
those00:19:44
dollars, this of course helped the00:19:47
Communist Party and00:19:51
extended it, but on the other hand,00:19:56
it was fraught with approximately the same thing00:20:00
that was then done00:20:02
and it is possible that if this Golden00:20:05
Rain had not fallen, we would have what happened00:20:07
to China would have been experienced 10-20 years earlier,00:20:16
two more questions on current topics, if00:20:19
possible, can you comment on the results of Zelensky’s visit to America00:20:25
Yes, there is00:20:29
nothing additional to what they00:20:32
were going to give anyway, he didn’t knock it out, so I was00:20:36
hoping that he00:20:37
would promote himself somehow it was very successful, but00:20:40
nothing came of it, he ran into her00:20:43
podium, it all started, in fact, he didn’t get it, that00:20:46
’s why00:20:49
it’s quite obvious that Zelensky did not succeed in the trend of00:20:53
fading American interest in the war in00:20:55
Ukraine,00:21:03
and00:21:07
Zelensky also spoke at the UN in the Security Council.00:21:12
Well, you I saw the hall in which he00:21:14
spoke to00:21:17
you,00:21:19
Biden spoke to the full hall00:21:26
and again So I figured out how to eradicate all the00:21:29
conflicts in the world forever00:21:33
Let's accept this formula because I'm00:21:36
the only one so Great that you still00:21:39
didn't even know without me that00:21:49
[music ] the00:21:55
second question that I wanted to ask is the00:21:57
military operations,00:21:58
I read what the Wall Street Journal wrote,00:22:01
it is now being very hotly discussed that for00:22:04
the first time, it seems, for this three-layer00:22:08
line of defense, the Institute for the Study of00:22:12
War wrote about this00:22:14
not the Wall Street Journal Yes,00:22:17
marders and strikers first appeared by the teeth00:22:26
and passed00:22:29
I hope, of course, that this is the first sign,00:22:33
but I00:22:34
don’t know, you looked at the maps and the Institute for the00:22:38
Study of War00:22:40
[music]00:22:44
after this line,00:22:52
everything is clear, it’s not so simple,00:22:55
let’s take it and then there are00:23:03
no more lines00:23:06
The further it will be easier for me, it’s not very00:23:08
clear00:23:10
Well, I really want to believe that this is how it00:23:12
will be, of course, then I’m only for it if00:23:15
Indeed, this is the main milestone And after00:23:17
that the operational space of the so-00:23:20
called00:23:22
Hurray will begin,00:23:23
for example, Arrestovich on the air with Latynin,00:23:26
so to speak, confidently said that this00:23:29
year So the magician will be00:23:32
We really, a couple of months ago, were00:23:34
confident that the end October will be on the00:23:36
shore of the Sea of Azov Now it will00:23:41
end all only dark I think that it00:23:44
will be put under control, which is also a lot00:23:47
but I do00:23:48
n’t know00:23:53
four months is coming00:23:57
4 plus no 4 to00:24:02
3 to almost four months is coming but the00:24:06
pace at first was pleasing Now00:24:10
they are little different from Russian pace00:24:15
winter spring offensive00:24:22
Do you remember there Solidar Bakhmut is great Well, that's how the00:24:26
Ukrainians are coming approximately the00:24:30
speed00:24:35
Russia's influence on grain exports from00:24:37
Ukraine will decrease in the coming weeks,00:24:41
meaning export Land by sea is00:24:43
predicted by the State Department00:24:45
Russia's influence will decrease00:24:49
less and less interfere with the00:24:52
export of grain by sea from Ukraine00:24:56
yesterday the first00:25:00
cargo loaded with Ukrainian grain00:25:04
leaving the port of Chernomorsk is why the new00:25:08
humanitarian corridor which, as I00:25:10
understand it, is that they go to the00:25:11
territorial waters of the countries of Romania,00:25:18
nothing00:25:28
Yes,00:25:29
the Black Sea Fleet is suffering now, have you00:25:32
seen how much it has already been,00:25:35
it cannot help but suffer because it is not00:25:39
needed Russia doesn’t need it, just like the port of00:25:43
Sevastopol doesn’t need it, it doesn’t have00:25:45
any strategic significance and their00:25:49
potential enemy is not00:25:51
Ukraine, as they tell themselves,00:25:53
NATO countries, this port can be destroyed in one00:25:55
day, there00:25:57
will be no base in a day if00:26:00
the Americans want it,00:26:03
strategic position Sevastopol is00:26:05
so disgusting What is better00:26:07
to make a naval base in Tuapse or00:26:10
Anapa but not in Sevastopol00:26:14
Why00:26:16
I don’t know what they need I think that00:26:20
to carry this00:26:22
aircraft carrier like George Washington which is the00:26:25
largest in the world or Which one00:26:28
would they Now it’s in the Indian Sea He00:26:30
completely controls all the waters of the00:26:32
Black Sea without even being there He does00:26:35
n’t even need to through00:26:38
no He completely controls the entire Black00:26:42
Sea And just imagine that there’s also a00:26:45
Turkish military base right00:26:46
on the Black Sea, just in case,00:26:50
and there’s also a Bulgarian00:26:54
Bulgaria they will build a military base and there00:26:55
is already a military base00:26:58
and there is far from loyal Russia00:27:02
and Ukraine00:27:03
and what will you do with this base of yours00:27:06
why do you need it where did you bury these00:27:09
billions00:27:11
They live the00:27:14
inertia of history of the 18th - 19th centuries,00:27:25
even then it was a complete defeat for the00:27:27
British they ordered the French while they00:27:29
were not there, it was possible to fight the Turks,00:27:32
it was possible to fight the Turks Crimea,00:27:36
or there was the battle of Sinop when the00:27:39
British and the French arrived, then I00:27:40
really have nothing against the00:27:42
Crimea as such, it’s probably a good00:27:45
place to live there,00:27:47
it’s not that big for her, so to speak for the00:27:50
Russian Empire, a place where there are00:27:51
real subtropics There and so on, there are00:27:53
dachas, build a sanatorium,00:27:56
workers rest No problem Well, as a00:27:59
naval base, this place is no00:28:02
good,00:28:04
that is, if you just want to stupidly00:28:06
bury the money and destroy this base every 50 years, so to00:28:08
speak about this,00:28:11
build anew, you can do this.00:28:14
I’m already tired of saying that the not-00:28:17
Criminal Sevastopol was taken exactly00:28:19
as many times as you want, the00:28:22
city of00:28:25
Russian military glory basically00:28:51
broke through a trench, as you know, and00:28:54
no one entered, they couldn’t defend anything.00:29:00
I’m not even talking about the French, the English, the00:29:02
Germans there. and so on,00:29:04
well, but about the Poles, can you00:29:07
say something about what happened there in your opinion,00:29:09
what is happening there, so friends, so00:29:12
friends, and suddenly00:29:15
what are some comrades bringing from Warsaw00:29:20
to correct themselves, other other comrades00:29:22
are trying to correct those who00:29:27
scold Ukraine with the last words00:29:31
Well, there are elections going on there00:29:35
there is a choice00:29:41
and of course now, despite the fact00:30:13
that he has a generally good00:30:16
rating and the Romanians love him, but he simply00:30:18
cannot run, there will definitely be a00:30:19
different00:30:22
President00:30:23
and at this moment starting a00:30:28
trade war00:30:30
is of course well done, well done,00:30:36
I’ll find out about this, of course00:30:41
it’s00:30:43
necessary think for a long time think00:30:46
it’s time00:30:49
we have all the transport traffic for weapons00:30:53
goes through Poland on00:31:01
October 15th I think that after the 15th everything00:31:05
will resolve very quickly I don’t think you don’t00:31:08
think it’s so intense that it won’t be00:31:15
easy to go back and then you understand that’s the right00:31:19
justice00:31:23
She’s like that let’s put it this00:31:25
way00:31:30
such Anti00:31:32
liberal such Catholic very00:31:35
metal I would say even00:31:37
xenophobic and nationalist party00:31:41
Maybe I’m exaggerating That’s how it00:31:44
is, she was thinking00:31:51
aside I’ll give it to the mikhne who was00:31:54
who is by no means their supporter You know00:31:56
he told me everything about them in detail00:31:58
I don’t have any I have no doubt that he00:32:01
was telling me the truth00:32:02
and00:32:05
I can tell you that, of course,00:32:09
they are on par, they00:32:13
have dropped a little in terms of ratings and that is why00:32:15
Donald Tusk’s civic00:32:18
platform [music]00:32:20
is so Eurocentric There and so on, he00:32:23
himself she is attracted by00:32:27
such a00:32:29
liberal position. So they are going, in00:32:32
general, more or less, and every vote there, so00:32:34
to speak, now matters and00:32:37
the key question is the support of Polish00:32:40
farmers00:32:42
who, so to speak, traditionally vote00:32:44
for Kaczynski if he now gives up00:32:46
the slack00:32:48
and lets in Ukrainian grain even in transit00:32:50
through you00:32:52
understand yourself, yes, he will lose these votes and00:32:55
lose the election, and why was everything faster now?00:32:59
If you said it yourself, elections will be held on October 15.00:33:01
After that, so to speak, and00:33:04
start your war,00:33:06
they demand that the markets open, and so00:33:08
on, in the same place, because I’m just making00:33:10
an anecdote, but dear, come up with something- something00:33:16
Yes, and here I am because they themselves don’t00:33:19
explain why they started the war. I’m already00:33:21
inventing some stories for them, that there00:33:23
may be00:33:25
commissions, that the European Commission opened the markets, they are00:33:28
closing and Zelensky is playing so00:33:33
that they cannot resist. As they00:33:37
say, this separatism inside was00:33:43
brilliant yesterday way00:33:46
because he00:33:49
will provide all kinds of legal00:33:52
assistance to Poland and all other countries00:33:54
to protect themselves from the Ukrainian00:34:02
and that’s it. I removed my hypothesis from the clearing00:34:07
and00:34:10
after you I will talk to the00:34:13
Poles in fact today00:34:15
in particular00:34:21
you mentioned Adam mikhne someone he didn’t00:34:24
promise to give an interview today just00:34:27
about this whole story with00:34:28
strained relations, a00:34:31
great man certainly certainly Well,00:34:37
if we talk about the questions that we are00:34:40
asked, I really liked the00:34:44
reproach question thrown at you Why don’t you Koch00:34:47
know the history of the deportation of the00:34:49
Volga Germans I don’t know there was such a thing question is a00:34:55
question and at the same time an attempt to offend and00:34:59
humiliate00:35:04
myself or not me.00:35:13
I would just like to answer this00:35:15
person00:35:16
that in fact he is not particularly00:35:20
happy with my knowledge. But this00:35:22
is not clear, I’ll just apologize for you and say00:35:25
that in fact, first of all, I would like It is00:35:28
immediately said that although Stalin’s decree was00:35:31
called deportation, there are no00:35:36
who at that time were on the00:35:38
territory of the Soviet Union and the00:35:40
overwhelming majority were its citizens, but00:35:45
there it got00:35:47
ridiculous, well, let’s say funny, some00:35:53
Soviet Germans were at the00:35:56
front,00:35:57
they were removed from there, they were sent for00:36:00
deportation, so yes this I didn’t know to hand over my weapons00:36:06
[music]00:36:08
then they were in camp there.00:36:15
Well, they were the same, exactly00:36:17
citizens, they were drafted into the army, they fought,00:36:20
and in August 1941, their00:36:23
photos were taken, and00:36:28
everyone who00:36:31
lived on the territory of the Soviet Union was deported.00:36:34
My grandparents and in fact, My00:36:38
father and all his brothers and sisters lived in the00:36:40
Krasnodar region, there were00:36:42
German colonies and they were deported from there.00:36:47
A few months later, the Germans also had the00:36:52
same story.00:36:57
So I just want to tell the00:37:01
person who wrote, you apparently don’t00:37:03
know that this whole tragedy went through the00:37:06
history of the Koch family Well, I will say that00:37:10
finally all the restrictions on00:37:12
movement were in 6400:37:23
after the death of Khrushchev and they were allowed to00:37:26
return to those places from00:37:30
where they were gradually lifted,00:37:32
first of00:37:39
all the Soviet Union, but without the right to00:37:41
return00:37:42
to that, and then they were allowed to return,00:37:45
but to the end nothing happened they restored,00:37:47
that is, they did not return the houses in which they00:37:49
lived, this property, no compensation,00:37:51
they did not pay anything, although they admitted00:37:54
that it was a mistake and so on, but just like that,00:37:57
all restrictions00:37:58
were finally lifted in 64, I was born on 61, that is,00:38:01
formally, I was also born on the day of00:38:06
four years and I didn’t know yet,00:38:12
but by that time, the Germans inside00:38:15
Kazakhstan were already allowed to study at00:38:17
universities there and calmly change their place00:38:18
of residence, but only inside.00:38:27
So00:38:30
I was also00:38:32
born affected by the rights at00:38:39
that time,00:38:41
ever looked at courses,00:38:49
basically a00:39:09
carpenter was a simple person, so to speak,00:39:11
without education. and so he got drunk and00:39:13
grabbed the ax from his father for a couple of years,00:39:19
took the ax from him, sat down, calmed him down,00:39:23
calmed him down,00:39:25
I meant at the level, there00:39:33
wasn’t any00:39:36
specific instructions anywhere, but anyway, they00:39:38
took him to this university, they didn’t take him00:39:40
to this job it was00:39:46
further abroad. Then when00:39:49
we moved to Togliatti to build the Volga00:39:53
Automobile Plant, my father worked as the head of the00:39:56
transport department, then the transport00:39:58
department,00:40:00
and there everyone who was at00:40:03
some level of bosses00:40:06
was sent to study in Italy, the00:40:09
Italians built a00:40:13
culture of producing equipment for00:40:16
their own division, and so00:40:18
on and everyone his colleagues were even sent below everyone else00:40:21
in Italy, they were00:40:30
crossed off from all the lists right away without00:40:32
looking, it’s00:40:35
clear that there is00:40:37
time, yes,00:40:40
absolutely, with Jews, Chechens and Germans, these00:40:44
were the three affected nations, I understand00:40:46
why the Chechens and Germans, although of course00:40:48
you understand this the stupidity of the Jews, the00:40:53
Jews,00:40:56
they appeared because they had their own00:40:58
state, another one,00:41:00
one person once told me about this,00:41:03
looking into the eyes, we explain the00:41:05
wisdom of the party’s policy in this matter,00:41:08
that people who have their own00:41:11
national state outside00:41:14
our country cannot be considered00:41:16
absolutely loyal citizens00:41:20
but for the Chechens00:41:24
this is a different question, and the Germans had their own00:41:27
state. Remind me, but there was00:41:32
German migration from the Soviet Union,00:41:35
marginal only along religious lines,00:41:39
there was such a loophole, it’s a very big deal. The fact is00:41:43
that when ours were deported, they00:41:45
were all Lutherans, in fact, there00:41:47
were very few Catholics there communities00:41:49
that lived separately in separate00:41:51
colonies, basically they were all00:41:53
Lutherans, and then, at the end of the 19th and00:41:58
early 20th centuries, there was immigration from Germany of00:42:00
Minite sectarians. There and so on and so00:42:03
forth, but we don’t take that now.00:42:05
And when they were deported, there00:42:08
were no churches and they converted to00:42:10
Baptists,00:42:11
well, the closest thing to this story is to00:42:14
gather at home00:42:17
in Kazakhstan, that’s how they will then be00:42:22
left as leaves. They never returned as00:42:23
veterans because when they returned to00:42:25
their villages from which they were evicted, they were00:42:27
not allowed to build churches. And those that were00:42:30
long ago were converted into a club00:42:32
and This line along the line of the Baltic00:42:35
churches was a very big exchange, they00:42:37
went to visit each other There and so00:42:39
on, they somehow broke through the council of churches00:42:42
and so on, and accordingly they00:42:49
very quickly closed it down around the same time as00:42:51
this wave of Jewish00:42:53
immigration after00:42:56
it happened00:42:59
Well, then the bulk of them rushed00:43:01
Of course already somewhere 88900:43:04
that is, already more than 30 years ago00:43:07
That’s when they rushed they didn’t00:43:09
stop all of them very few00:43:14
forgive me please I’ll make a small00:43:17
correction after all The00:43:19
First Great Wave of the Jewish00:43:21
immigration began against the backdrop of negotiations on00:43:24
restrictions on00:43:26
strategic weapons with America, the00:43:28
Americans said that they would conduct these00:43:30
negotiations and in general they would agree to some kind of00:43:32
warming of relations with the Soviet Union.00:43:34
If you start releasing Jews00:43:38
71 72 like this, the00:43:42
majority00:43:46
will not argue, I need to look at00:43:47
the statistics I will not argue I will I’ll make00:43:51
a note to myself and then I’ll tell you for sure I00:43:53
ask my Israeli acquaintances and friends.00:43:56
They know better. There00:43:59
was a story there that00:44:13
Yes, you all traveled on Israeli visas00:44:16
and then either in Vienna or in Rome they00:44:20
had the opportunity to change the direction of00:44:23
travel But it was a complex culture Well,00:44:27
anyway otherwise they all went through it And the00:44:29
bulk of my personal acquaintances00:44:31
who are now Americans with a huge amount of00:44:35
experience So they all left This is the00:44:38
way they all went to the USA, but there00:44:42
maybe this is the wave of the first00:44:44
70s, they really went to Israel,00:44:47
but here is the second wave She all went.00:44:52
I have a good friend00:44:55
who studied this at, as I understand it, a00:45:00
scientific-historical level. I will00:45:03
certainly consult with him and clarify00:45:05
well,00:45:08
quite detailed statistics of00:45:10
who left the Soviet Union. From which00:45:14
republics I do00:45:15
n’t think that now we should take up the00:45:18
time of our listeners00:45:28
already passed at the very beginning00:45:33
ask a question ask questions00:45:38
all questions next time we00:45:41
need to finish now we need to00:45:44
finish the only one This is not a question00:45:46
this is an announcement there00:45:49
they ask me every time when are you00:45:55
such a scoundrel Kiselyov finally going to talk00:45:58
about how he squeezed NTV out of you00:46:01
soon soon soon on Monday we00:46:04
will start our favorite topic Well, to this00:46:08
I have a simple answer from Kiselyov, I did00:46:11
n’t push it because you didn’t00:46:13
belong to him, I didn’t belong to him00:46:15
and I ask you not to forget this.00:46:21
For my part, I would say that in this00:46:25
wonderful process I did not play the first00:46:29
significant role the role, but not the main one, was wrested00:46:34
from Gusinsky or from00:46:37
Kiselyov by Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, it00:46:41
seems to me like this, but we’ll00:46:43
talk about it later, we’re not going to move away from this,00:46:46
and by the way, someone told me this,00:46:51
like And now you’re going to quarrel like00:46:55
Arrestovich Feyenom00:46:58
guys on this topic you will quarrel like00:47:01
Arrestovich00:47:03
will not quarrel True00:47:06
I don’t see you have to prove to them that our00:47:10
friendship is much stronger than the friendship of00:47:13
Alyosha and Mark so well Ours at least00:47:24
we need longer00:47:26
Thank you very much Thank you to everyone who00:47:29
watched us and00:47:32
stock up on popcorn00:47:35
we will meet at 6 pm00:47:39
ET on00:47:41
Monday and have a00:47:43
serious, in-depth conversation about all of the above topics00:47:55
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