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Начало

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Самый пессимистичный сценарий развития событий в России

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Самый оптимистичный сценарий развития событий в России

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Могут ли придти новые элиты на смену старым?

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Могут ли нынешние элиты объединиться против Путина?

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Что делать, если не можешь сменить режим

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Как «пройти между струй» и остаться человеком, находясь в России

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Два пути оппозиционного политика в России

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Когда появится «честный лидер», который поднимет народ?

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Почему люди поддерживают Путина несмотря на низкий уровень жизни?

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Откуда взялась ненависть к украинцам?

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Украинцы — тоже имперский народ? В чем природа войны?

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Пора ли россиянам начинать учить китайский язык?

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Кто придет после Путина?

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В чем сегодня искать источник надежды?

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Hello friends, I welcome you to the

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Khodorkovsky Life channel, this is a program of

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purely concrete politics, we

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are starting to forgive

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some technical hitches today, let me

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remind you that the studio is Dmitry Elovsky And

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now Vladimir Borisovich Pastukhov will join us

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[music]

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Vladimir Borisovich Glad to welcome

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you to our film Hello

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now we are already on the air Yes, we are on the air,

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everything seems to be fine, friends, if we

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continue to have any problems on YouTube Write comments like

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now Everything should work and I see that

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People are gradually coming to our broadcast

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Well, let’s remind our dear

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viewers that we are the last Since we agreed with you

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that today’s

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program will be entirely

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based on questions from viewers that

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they sent during the week to my

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telegram channel and to the community on our

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YouTube channel, I watch the chat

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during the broadcast. Therefore, if you also have

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any then there are urgent questions that for some reason you didn’t

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have time to ask. You can also write them

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in the chat section, maybe at the end I

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’ll choose a couple of them. But that’s exactly what

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we agreed with our loved ones that there would be

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such a fast chess format. Let’s

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start with the first question. I’m not sure what to

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answer quickly from him. user

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Svetlana asks

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what, from your point of view, is the most

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pessimistic scenario for the development of, or

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rather, the degradation of Russia in the coming

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decades, the

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most pessimistic scenario is

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that it will last more than the

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next decade.

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That is, if no

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significant advances in tectonic

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shifts occur in the next

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decade, if it goes into overdrive

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then in a very simple scenario, most likely

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Russia will sag very strongly along

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two main lines: demography and

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technology,

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far down Russia will turn into a

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very weakly

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archaic society; they are capable of

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long-term independent

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existence, that is, reading in

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Putin’s words,

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restrictive sovereignty but

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surviving under external pressure for counting

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components

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isolation from Western influence

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very powerful

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repressive regime inside and complete

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dependence on China

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as a senior partner

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at some point leaving those Horizon beyond

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those horizons that it is impossible for me to

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see as soon as

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one of

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these components was asked finally

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or there will be a

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[music]

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break there,

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something will go wrong in the internal repressive regime

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or China will begin to have some

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other problems of its own. Well, most likely, by that

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time Russia will no longer have the strength to

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restore its normal

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sovereignty, return to some kind of

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common track, and it will begin to

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lose the

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violent part of its territories that

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will go to the neighboring competing

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civilizational platform, a

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simistic scenario so that it does not

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take place, some changes that

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interrupt this currently outlined

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trajectory should happen. Just

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within the next decade and not beyond

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and Horizon, I will use my right as a

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presenter and ask what is the most

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optimistic forecast I know You are not the

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biggest optimist Let's try

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to answer

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Well, the optimistic forecast itself is If there is

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a consolidation of the

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Russian Elites now pushed aside,

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which can pass between the

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force of the degradation that we

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described and the Kharib

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classical Russian revolution

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that Pushkin described as

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senseless merciless That is, if

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society succeeds to get out of the dead end into

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which Putin drove him, the

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Elite

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without a full-scale

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revolution falling, but still without

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it simply drowning in a swamp if

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such a consolidation occurs or happens on

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some kind of modernization

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rational platform and the

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adequate unwinding of the

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tangle of violence that we imagine begins

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so to speak, they have dashed off over the previous

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20 years, but there is such a minimal chance of this.

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Non, that is, if you use

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very inaccurate analogies because

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they will be accurate. But this is, relatively speaking, the

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variant of 53 89 years against the variant of,

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say, 16 years

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about the elites, too, questions were mentioned Now

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they sent it to our community on YouTube,

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by the way, friends, this is quite an interesting

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social network within a social network. Don’t

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forget to go to this tab and

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take part in our polls, discussions, and

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so on, so a question from YouTube, it is possible that

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new faces will appear in Russia in a situation of

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total disunity of mistrust,

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can the old elites and what situations if

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they are not supported by the population

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Well, in general, in fact, the honest

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answer to this is that there are always elites, they are

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better, they are worse, sometimes they like,

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sometimes they don’t like, but one of the

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features of the human community is not

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the one that exists inside YouTube, but the

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one that exists in the real world is

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is that he always has a

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manager and the controlled, but this is how the

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human world works, that he

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mentions a living organism, that is, there is a

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body, there is, as it were, a decision-making center, the

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brain, if there is no such normal one, there is at

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least a back, in extreme cases, a

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primitive one, which is located, as

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scientists now say in the intestines, but it’s still

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there, that is, it gives signals. Therefore,

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there are always those who formulate some

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signals and there are.

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Therefore, what kind of questions do I often get asked? How

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can you call

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what we have today in Russia?

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This is how to politically set the question already

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it is assumed that the elites are supposed to

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be better than

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societies, but unfortunately this is the real

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formulation of the question, it’s more like

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Schwartz’s for Russia, remember this there:

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who are the best people, some are

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worse than the people, you are their best people, here in

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Russia the elites are usually of course It

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often happens that you have improved people who are worse than the people,

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and we now have a

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ruling class that is, in a sense,

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a split; it resembles the situation that

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was in the 16th century because we have,

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relatively speaking, oprichnina elites, new, strictly

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speaking, excellent elites who

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now tenaciously hold the state in their

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hands.

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here is all this growth that

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has risen thanks to Putin and

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some part of the

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post-Soviet post-communist people

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who were reinforced in the 90s joined it, but some

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part of the intelligentsia,

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therefore there is also a heterogeneous mass there, but also the

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oprichnina of Ivan the Terrible, it was not

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homogeneous, there were people so to speak, out of

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nowhere, but in general order there were three

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things of some seedy

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boyar families who seemed to be

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happy to play this game, accepted

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new rules, so there is one

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Elite, such an oprichnev one, this is the one

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who is now forming the rules of the game and

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which sets as its goal an

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obvious task to become a hereditary

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oprichneva is in fact

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traditional, I would say Such

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old elites are not visible, they are not pushed aside,

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they express such complete reality, but

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at the same time they are on the sidelines and I’m not

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sure that I like this place on the

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sidelines, they are just intimidated and they have the resources

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there is no advancement to the first roles, but

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these elites are, first of all, a

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gigantic mass of Russian bureaucracy

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of the service class And this is all that

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feeds around the state,

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such healthy, as if money, like one that managed to

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dig itself out of oblivion in the 90s,

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still small but existing

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middle class It’s quite clear that the

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middle class is not the Soviet intelligentsia,

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but the middle class in this more or less

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European understanding of the word. It is very

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small, it

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exists. There are also small detachments

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formed for the bourgeoisie, which

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practically never existed in Russia

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at that time. And therefore there is this

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big one. detachment of the Elite which has now

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been pushed aside Why Because the current

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system is structured in such a way that there

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is a

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leader, this leader directly to the short

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female on the mass and as a simply

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auxiliary apparatus as some kind of

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staff, they have opined to use this very one

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And all the rest will be expressed in

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some term Clearly deduced

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for the staff,

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yes, here we have the bulk of the Elite

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today removed from the staff and the task

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is not that some

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new elites will appear, such a Utopia, a new Elite will appear,

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but it’s possible but That is, if,

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of course, Elon mask’s flights

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to Mars

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still take place and they don’t the

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next time the rocket is flying, it will

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be discovered that Mars is inhabited, that is,

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some new ones

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will arrive, but we will have to live with these,

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so the question is not about the new elites, but

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whether these withdrawn states will be able to

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somehow deal with this, the main elites

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Oprichnevoy and to regain their place

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in general they ask a lot Alexander Vasev

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is interested in what is important for the coalition, for example, a

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coalition of military bandits conditionally

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Prigozhins and banker bandits for example

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bones

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Well, I have the impression that why

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this question is asked as in the future tense

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me in my opinion, in fact,

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to have the mentioned persons then

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I don’t I go into characterization of their

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social status and moral character,

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but they have been

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in an absolutely complete coalition for the last 20 years.

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I just don’t understand. What kind of even

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more merging in ecstasy can you find a

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group to expect a

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coalition that will be anti-Putin?

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Well, that is, while Putin is alive,

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it’s difficult for me to imagine imagine And when

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he’s gone Well, yes, they can

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all oppose each other What

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is an anti-Putin coalition But this is

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such a

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utopia, it’s like boa

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constrictors and Iskander rabbits, such a

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cauliflower of

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opposition mentality, that is, we

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see now they even write about it,

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studies start from the fact that

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we there is already such an indirectly

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direct sacralization of

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the figure of Putin’s cannon,

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trying to betray the features of the God of man and,

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accordingly, to consolidate this image

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in the consciousness of the masses,

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in principle, the

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same thing happened in principle before, but

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soon in the Orthodox churches. I think that

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they will hang an icon of Putin if you and I

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live to see of this moment In what

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next broadcast when will the information be broadcast

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that Putin’s icon also hangs in the

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church then you tell me about this Remind

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me to be counted and therefore now I don’t

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see just in this way

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ideologically

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What kind of struggle is there in Russia so that an

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anti-Putin elite is now formed,

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firstly it will be crushed

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under the urinary state where, thanks to the

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latest technologies, the level of total

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surveillance of each representative of the Elite

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is much higher than what it was in 30 years

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under steel.

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Not because there were big flayers there,

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but simply because they still had

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fewer opportunities, that is, let's say in In

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that situation,

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Khrushchev could have met

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with Malenkov

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and they went to some distant

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corner of the kindergarten and while walking there they

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said that you understand

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Georgiy Berena will devour everyone Yes, what to

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do on Well, that is, they were very afraid,

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but they could still speak today in the

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era of directed

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microphones there, the ability to read the recording, the

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state is

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somewhere tight, that is, and believe me, all

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these people understand perfectly well. We saw a

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criminal case, which is

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one of my favorites, when some

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unfortunate driver, in my opinion,

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I don’t know. For what reason is

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his total They put him on automatic

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wiretapping and it turned out that he was in a

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telephone conversation and told someone

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it was war,

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and then

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such a funny legal cassus arose

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because we have

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slander of the social system, it

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still has to

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be a public statement to become a crime. That is,

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theoretically, if you are sitting like the

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heroes of a famous novel and you will go to the

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toilet in the summer in the wrong songs in the morning.

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But if you opened the door and the

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toilet and the neighbors heard this is already

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a crime. And here I am talking on the phone,

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it seems like no one is complaining, and then they said

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that he inflicted colossal mental

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trauma on

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that

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FSB technical service officer which

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he listened to on duty and therefore when

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he heard it he apparently experienced such

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severe bitterness. I say the hero of the past

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time is one sadness and how could he carry

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spiritual grass, therefore is

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listening to this horror, he is the

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injured party. What do you want? That

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is, which one is here? Which one? here is the Putin

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coalition No, that’s all To some extent,

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firstly, such coalitions of some of

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Putin’s friends against other Putin’s friends, and

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they love this one terribly, secondly, it’s

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really

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all being formed now But these are nest eggs, these are

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political tasks for the future, you don’t see any

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of these larch trees of the

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living path,

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more and more of us Valentin Lukyanchenko

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asks in a telegram Hello, I’m from

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Russia, I was born in 92 in a rather

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difficult time when the regime was taking shape,

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I was still young so what - to understand,

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when the regime grinned, it turned out to be too late

00:18:01

to resist it, it turns out that the life of

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my generation is in something senseless, an

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unnecessary generation, so to speak, tell me,

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can reflection on these senselessness

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and awaken a culture that will give a new,

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unique impulse for the development of

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Russia, a question from thirty-year-olds

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on the other side for me is quite

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simple because

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I have a pretty good idea,

00:18:33

so the answer

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is sit and think about what an unfortunate

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time I was born

00:18:50

from this, some deep things,

00:19:04

but life still provides

00:19:07

some Opportunities to

00:19:10

do something, at least in terms of

00:19:13

internal improvement,

00:19:15

no one has yet takes away the ability to

00:19:18

read,

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over time we will have to learn to read

00:19:23

as we knew how to do it, understanding Aesopian

00:19:27

language and pulling out meanings from what

00:19:32

generally seems absolutely meaningless,

00:19:35

something in the world always turns out

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somehow,

00:19:39

it’s so structured that very often an

00:19:43

etheric person who we don’t hit raises our hand

00:19:47

I can use my own example, you know, it

00:19:50

happened that Khrushchev was once born there, it was like

00:19:57

at that age when, to be

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honest, I didn’t have time

00:20:01

to reflect on Khrushchev, but the girl for

00:20:04

myself remember,

00:20:05

accordingly, it was already Leonidovich

00:20:08

Brezhnev and all that I remembered was

00:20:12

Brezhnev and that means

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60-73 I was 10 years old Brezhnev was

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there and finally

00:20:21

I was almost 20 years old it was still

00:20:25

going on Brezhnev

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somehow couldn’t imagine

00:20:30

that anything else could be

00:20:33

honest Although of course there was some kind of intuition,

00:20:37

I

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remember we had it at university discussion

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when in 1982 he had already

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arrived in Kiev and she was there to meet him,

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everyone was arguing whether to go or not to go, and there

00:20:55

was a little cynicism, you should

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see it while you’re alive,

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and then everything started moving, you know,

00:21:05

suddenly everything started moving And when everything

00:21:08

started moving and everyone was left with that

00:21:11

baggage which managed to work out. This is

00:21:14

such a funny situation there, well, there were a

00:21:18

certain number of

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intermediate leaders. Well, we

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will have exactly the same thing, that is, they still remember such,

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well, the main thing is such

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pillar marks Stalin Khrushchev Brezhnev

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Gorbachev Well, there seemed to

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be a lot of people in between here, that

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is, was somewhere There was a Ganin somewhere

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Malenkov something was impossible there

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was also an intermediate Andropov Chernenko

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was to hide the current

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And here too it will be of course there will be Putin

00:21:56

then there will be Something like that very

00:22:00

quickly changing each other and then in

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in the end, some new

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Stolbovaya some kind of marker

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will be marked and

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I remember that all this time I was quietly sitting there

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in the archives of which I was simply

00:22:24

stupid in the system,

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they allowed me to read the list earlier of all kinds of

00:22:30

literature, magazines and

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this I read a lot about the Bukharids then

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about all the repressed this it

00:22:38

was impossible to do everything And suddenly

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Gorbachev came

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and

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no one heard anything And I begin at

00:22:48

that moment there

00:22:49

were alternatives, there were not only this

00:22:52

communism that we know, there

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were repressions, great terror,

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there were other currents of the method, Bukhalin

00:23:02

carried me away now I’m not so carried away

00:23:04

naturally and

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I remember that one of our teachers was

00:23:10

so surprised by my strange

00:23:13

knowledge that I was even invited as a graduate student to

00:23:16

give a lecture at the

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Higher Party School in Kiev,

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tell him Bukhara didn’t hear,

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I came and started telling

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for me, there were 40 couples watching there, depending on his

00:23:34

eyes, party careerists who

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saw me myself Apparently as they

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considered a smart careerist who was able to

00:23:44

predict and foresee how it would all

00:23:47

turn out unexpectedly,

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but didn’t foresee anything, I was busy with

00:23:52

what I needed, and

00:23:55

therefore I just need to mind my own

00:23:57

business here. You’ll

00:23:59

never guess,

00:24:02

someone will be superfluous on this earth. It’s

00:24:06

like with her turns a

00:24:09

question that seems to me to be very important and

00:24:13

many ask it and it was formulated well

00:24:15

in our Telegram channel by a user

00:24:17

with Nick I. If in Russia there is an opportunity to

00:24:20

pass dry between a stream of rain, to remain

00:24:23

in the waters with conscience and not end up in prison, there is

00:24:25

no opportunity to leave

00:24:30

Well, I just think that such as would be

00:24:33

the task It was initially incorrectly

00:24:36

set, that is, to pass dry between the

00:24:39

streams. Who knows where these streams

00:24:41

remain in the harmony of conscience. Well, that is, a

00:24:44

certain paradigm is supposed to be in order to

00:24:48

be in harmony with the conscience, then you need to

00:24:56

go

00:24:57

out into the street

00:25:00

and say everything that you think about them. it’s

00:25:05

always possible, that is, I must

00:25:09

say that

00:25:10

not everyone is ready for this, that is, Listen,

00:25:15

why did we have a lot of believers,

00:25:18

there were a lot of saints, there were few saints?

00:25:22

Well, because if everyone could be

00:25:24

saints, then in general, then if the church

00:25:26

didn’t need it And in general this everything would be for

00:25:29

something, that is, they cannot and should not all

00:25:32

be heroes And this is the path that

00:25:36

Volodya took there,

00:25:42

which God forbid is prepared for

00:25:46

many others there. But this is the path of

00:25:49

special people, because this is the path of special people and

00:25:54

they must be respected for their choice,

00:25:58

but this This is not the case when Everyone should

00:26:02

strive to repeat this. It would be better if it were the

00:26:04

same with their conscience.

00:26:06

I believe that there are times when in order to

00:26:13

just

00:26:15

try to use the

00:26:18

old formula of the Soviet intelligentsia, a

00:26:22

decent person is one

00:26:25

who does not do nasty things

00:26:30

beyond measure,

00:26:33

that is, tries

00:26:35

not to be the first disciple

00:26:38

Yes hard times come,

00:26:40

times of compromise come, often you have to find

00:26:43

compromises you have to make in order to

00:26:45

save your loved ones,

00:26:48

somewhere there is a point beyond which it is

00:26:52

impossible to move, everyone

00:26:54

gropes for it, someone manages to live through their lives

00:26:57

without reaching this point, someone doesn’t then

00:27:00

they have to make a choice But this here are

00:27:03

the paradigms that

00:27:06

if I

00:27:08

didn’t go out and sit down, then I’m not a person, I

00:27:12

think that it’s false, I

00:27:15

need to now

00:27:17

at least solve the problem,

00:27:20

for me the minimum task is to try to

00:27:23

maintain critical thinking in myself,

00:27:26

try not to fall under the herd

00:27:30

instinct, you understand, this is very important.

00:27:33

This is a feat. today because we

00:27:38

all have some kind of sixth sense

00:27:42

and in fact it is very difficult in this

00:27:44

atmosphere when no one sees how many of

00:27:48

those who disagree with

00:27:50

everyone are shown only those who for

00:27:54

such a general impression is created that there are an

00:27:57

immense number of these and those who I don’t

00:28:00

agree, it’s dust,

00:28:02

which is small. Maybe it’s like that, maybe it’s not like that,

00:28:06

but it’s not visible, but in these conditions it’s

00:28:09

very difficult. It’s very difficult to remain yourself, it’s

00:28:12

very difficult not to give in to what’s

00:28:15

called the rationalization of evil, if

00:28:19

they talk about it, it’s not true, but there’s something in it,

00:28:21

but still, but in principle it does

00:28:26

n’t happen.

00:28:28

Well, of course, Ukrainians are not Nazis. But still, of course,

00:28:32

somewhere out there,

00:28:34

selling to Americans, you begin

00:28:38

to persuade yourself that somehow it’s

00:28:41

better. Yes, you don’t have to go anywhere and

00:28:45

you can save your family, but it’s

00:28:47

better at the same time. and it’s normal to remain silent, but the main thing is not to

00:28:53

lie to yourself. This is, don’t lie to yourself, this is the Red Line

00:28:55

And this is Nobody forbids you to do it,

00:28:58

you know, you can’t really get into the soul there, after

00:29:02

all, thank God for now.

00:29:05

This is very important; the second thing, of course, is

00:29:09

not to be done. this is such a negative,

00:29:13

as if there is motivation, there is a positive one, that is, the

00:29:15

social elevator begins to work,

00:29:18

they start to work great, you know,

00:29:21

it all starts to work like the

00:29:22

thirties, when there, in the place of one

00:29:26

executed General, 20 came to be

00:29:29

quite alive as a lieutenant And

00:29:32

therefore, in addition to fear, Temptation

00:29:37

also arises what people are ready not to do under

00:29:42

pain of

00:29:43

threat, it’s often easiest to persuade yourself

00:29:46

when the temptation appears, the second

00:29:48

step is not to let yourself be tempted, not to

00:29:51

let yourself be appeased by

00:29:54

deception, which

00:29:57

again rationalizes that you are afraid

00:30:00

because it is profitable.

00:30:01

That is, this is the second third within those

00:30:05

who have children and there will be children Well, yes,

00:30:08

she will pass the fire

00:30:10

pass the Fire, that is, with a high degree

00:30:12

of probability,

00:30:13

Russia

00:30:15

will almost certainly be different with the

00:30:18

generation of children and one hundred percent will be

00:30:20

completely different with the generation of grandchildren, and the

00:30:23

main struggle will be between

00:30:25

our children,

00:30:28

our grandchildren,

00:30:30

they need to be prepared, I understand

00:30:33

beyond the limits of ordinary consciousness, but

00:30:36

yes, it’s a duty, the fire must be preserved.

00:30:40

When I come to Barcelona, I understand

00:30:44

How many years it took to build

00:30:47

this temple there, you understand that the people who

00:30:51

started building it all, they had no chance

00:30:54

to see

00:30:55

the ending, that is, in today’s times

00:30:59

when we live on Instagram

00:31:03

But In general, in principle, there is 0 motivation to work,

00:31:07

but they somehow completed 10 generations

00:31:14

by one generation.

00:31:19

Another question about the

00:31:22

oppositionists who are in prison. Alfred

00:31:25

Alfredova asks such an interesting

00:31:27

question why the opposition thinks that

00:31:29

dropouts in prison for their beliefs are

00:31:31

Sorry, almost prestigious. Why go to a new

00:31:33

life with the old hackneyed ones ways to

00:31:35

donate Iguago I am very sorry

00:31:38

that Navalny is now enduring all this torment,

00:31:40

but it looks like instead of real

00:31:42

opposition actions he is his. His fellow

00:31:44

lawyers are now defending

00:31:45

Alexei himself, looking for a way out of this

00:31:48

situation. Well, the question continues

00:31:49

and will change, and others

00:31:56

can just send Gorky known

00:32:00

The petrel and there was also a second one,

00:32:06

and there were also birds that were sitting,

00:32:11

I thought, And the penguins, and the one that

00:32:15

seemed to look and say, Well, why is it

00:32:17

all, listen, everyone has their own destiny. We

00:32:20

just answered this question. But on the

00:32:22

other hand, everyone has their own destiny.

00:32:24

Everyone makes their own choice,

00:32:26

some are ready, some are not ready, some are

00:32:30

ready for self-sacrifice to altruism,

00:32:32

some are simply ready to fight for power at

00:32:34

any cost and are ready to give themselves

00:32:38

entirely, and some are not ready, you

00:32:41

know, to sit and judge another from

00:32:45

above its bell tower But this is

00:32:47

wrong Everyone chooses their own path

00:32:50

if a person believes that his path is to the

00:32:53

cross

00:32:54

You can imagine how many

00:32:57

people in Jerusalem sewed the name of the

00:33:00

then terrible city there They looked

00:33:03

and thought that in general

00:33:08

this is not the path to

00:33:10

follow

00:33:13

No, I think that

00:33:16

everyone should judge themselves and their actions first of all.

00:33:21

Let’s do it anyway. I’m interested in the

00:33:25

simple effectiveness of

00:33:26

politics. Opposition politicians

00:33:28

in modern Russia have two ways: one to

00:33:32

remain conditionally free and the second,

00:33:35

accordingly, to go to prison but at the same time

00:33:37

gain

00:33:38

Well, here’s some experience

00:33:43

image

00:33:45

Yes, Dmitry,

00:33:50

Alexey Alekseevich from various supporters is enough for me, a

00:34:03

simple historical event of the USSR

00:34:19

in this country there were about 200 million

00:34:22

people,

00:34:24

believe the color of these 200 million, I think there

00:34:27

were at least two million of whom

00:34:30

everyone understood and did not support anything from

00:34:34

these two million if my memory is bad

00:34:37

cheats 9 people Found the strength to go out

00:34:40

to Red Square and said In my opinion 7

00:34:43

were immediately imprisoned, the rest were there too,

00:34:46

then they went in

00:34:49

circles, it is necessary to

00:34:52

redirect your question of luck Was there

00:34:56

any meaning in what they achieved? These people did

00:35:00

not ask to sit out in the kitchen

00:35:03

to meet friends online over

00:35:07

the kettle, a cup of tea, quietly covering the phone with a pillow,

00:35:13

discuss refining the topic and leaving

00:35:17

satisfied that you understand

00:35:19

this is also necessary, maybe it was more

00:35:22

effective, it was more effective to

00:35:25

continue

00:35:27

rewriting the

00:35:31

self-inflicted texts that were then circulating, but there were also those who

00:35:34

thought that they should do this

00:35:38

from the point of view of

00:35:40

efficiency,

00:35:42

that they didn’t make any sense,

00:35:45

they literally crushed it

00:35:48

from the point of view of an example

00:35:52

and a certain standard and legend, but they

00:35:58

drove a very powerful nail, yes, that is, there

00:36:00

was no efficiency, that is,

00:36:02

efficiency in the sense of whether

00:36:05

the Great

00:36:08

Anti-capitalist or

00:36:09

some other revolution will begin tomorrow no will there remain

00:36:12

certain standards like

00:36:15

resistance and what is it that everyone is not needed? Here you are

00:36:19

following the one who asked the question.

00:36:22

I just have the feeling that you are in solidarity,

00:36:24

you are trying to impose some kind of

00:36:28

dichotomy. Yes and no, black and white where there

00:36:31

is neither black nor white this is

00:36:34

the dialectic of life,

00:36:36

perhaps the most discussed question in our

00:36:39

community When will a private Leader appear

00:36:42

who will be able to raise the People

00:36:45

against all these boyars, this is the word that is

00:36:48

used and gain enough

00:36:51

popularity the author of the question has now

00:36:53

unfortunately lost it, but I’ll

00:36:55

try to find him But Vasya, yes

00:36:58

When he appears a real honest Leader

00:37:00

who will raise the people understands that

00:37:02

scary ones are very dangerous but listen to fairy tales

00:37:06

but I don’t know. It seems to me that an honest

00:37:11

Leader is generally for all times and such

00:37:14

drowning in the second sense is an

00:37:16

honest Leader. A saint is already here, that is, a

00:37:19

person who is honest and

00:37:21

ineffective not smart not

00:37:25

brave an honest leader

00:37:28

This is a saint, you understand, a saint appears

00:37:31

there, we probably need to feel ourselves to

00:37:35

check whether we are still here or already there.

00:37:39

I think that the question is not worth it in public

00:37:41

view. And in general, this is the hope that

00:37:45

someone will appear who

00:37:49

will save us, such a bad sign.

00:37:53

I think that means move when

00:37:57

there is a feeling that

00:38:01

we must put our lives under

00:38:04

control and

00:38:07

introduce some elements of self-

00:38:09

government in

00:38:11

our lives in order not to depend on

00:38:14

how honest our Leader is.

00:38:18

Then something will change, that is,

00:38:21

while Russia will impose all the

00:38:26

time hopes for the beginning of cleansing

00:38:29

processes on

00:38:30

some kind of leader who was honest for them it was

00:38:34

honest for others it was important that he was

00:38:36

strong for others it was important that he was

00:38:39

cruel

00:38:40

but he wouldn’t do anything, that is,

00:38:43

this is the hope that someone will come I

00:38:45

remember this classic

00:38:50

duck or, in my opinion, a record about What is the

00:38:53

difference between the

00:38:55

Americans and the French

00:38:58

when the Americans' road is washed out

00:39:03

they gather a General Assembly to live there or the

00:39:06

village is

00:39:08

dumped with money occupy a

00:39:11

team of fans and

00:39:14

repair the road

00:39:17

when the French have a road washed out they

00:39:21

gather a delegation deputation and write a

00:39:24

letter to a higher-ranking prefect of the station

00:39:27

so that the government immediately

00:39:29

takes measures to have their

00:39:31

road repaired

00:39:33

answers your question, changes will most likely

00:39:36

appear when we

00:39:38

stop being French a little bit

00:39:40

at night be like Americans they

00:39:43

also ask what would be the

00:39:46

hypothetical scenario for Russia leaving the

00:39:48

war right now there is a staging

00:39:50

in view of both within the country and on the border

00:39:55

I don’t do science fiction

00:40:00

but there are some opportunities to do it now

00:40:05

Okay I understand Let’s move on

00:40:08

Bumblebee guitars question I was recently on vacation

00:40:11

talking with a British family discussing

00:40:13

our society I said that most

00:40:15

of Putin’s electorate most of

00:40:17

Putin’s electron these are people with a low

00:40:19

level of education and income, what

00:40:21

the British asked, it turns out that these

00:40:22

people in such a social position come from

00:40:25

it and at the same time they also advocate for

00:40:27

it, how does it really work for you

00:40:28

because I somehow

00:40:30

work for us, this is typical only for Russia,

00:40:32

it turns out that material wealth is not

00:40:34

important, but ideological wealth is important. By the way,

00:40:37

speaking about the American

00:40:39

French British and Russian mentality.

00:40:42

I think that in explaining to our British

00:40:46

friends,

00:40:48

our viewer was still

00:40:52

a little misled.

00:40:54

Unfortunately, I cannot say that

00:40:57

Putin’s support is ranked

00:40:59

solely by the level of economic

00:41:04

income and social status,

00:41:08

relatively speaking, there is

00:41:12

Zakhar Prilepin,

00:41:15

whose fighters are now

00:41:19

something like that. In the group I recommended

00:41:22

looking and even out of the corner of my eye I looked

00:41:24

there, there are many other people who

00:41:27

quite actively support this

00:41:30

militaristic course; they are not very

00:41:33

poor or somehow we are not at all

00:41:36

says it’s not said, more precisely, it would

00:41:38

n’t be said at all, that is, they are

00:41:41

not exactly poor who

00:41:43

support Putin. Many of them are

00:41:45

not poor at all. That is, I think that

00:41:48

Putin’s support is based on some other

00:41:51

basis, after all, than income level;

00:41:56

surprisingly, it’s different why

00:41:59

Putin is supported by those who are, to

00:42:03

that extent, direct beneficiaries of this

00:42:06

regime, who have risen with Putin over

00:42:09

these 20 years, then a fortune is developing.

00:42:12

But who, to be

00:42:14

honest,

00:42:18

really feel that this

00:42:21

reflects his interests in one way or another. And that’s why they seem to

00:42:24

go there those, including those who

00:42:28

actually Nothing good except a

00:42:32

funeral day now this regime does not

00:42:35

receive this is such a big question, but there

00:42:38

is no

00:42:40

clear gradation that the rich are against

00:42:43

Putin and the poor are for I think that this is

00:42:46

a little false

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Mid

00:42:51

Shamirzaev asks is there Russians

00:42:54

really have Hatred for Ukraine,

00:42:55

Ukrainians Where does it come from Is Propaganda

00:42:58

so brainwashed the mind, this

00:43:00

is the question,

00:43:04

we are absolutely deprived of the possibility of any

00:43:08

objective measurements of what

00:43:11

Russians actually think or don’t think, the

00:43:14

picture is very blurred And no

00:43:18

sociological surveys or research

00:43:22

can tell me now the look

00:43:24

is 15 completely reliable, so

00:43:27

we see some kind of picture of a

00:43:32

hysterical section in copper, mainly

00:43:36

controlled by the state, and this

00:43:39

picture really creates the

00:43:41

impression of

00:43:43

hysterical xenophobia, which from my

00:43:46

point of view is much broader;

00:43:49

such a character is not limited only to

00:43:53

Ukrainians, but at the same time yes It’s a

00:43:56

strange way for me that

00:43:59

Ukraine and the Ukrainians seemed to be in the

00:44:03

center of all this obscurantism.

00:44:08

That is, if you look at this

00:44:10

picture and it doesn’t say there to assess

00:44:12

that everyone hates Ukrainians.

00:44:16

Judging by this picture, I think that it is

00:44:19

paradoxical for me and of course by

00:44:23

80 percent it is absolutely

00:44:26

artificial in nature, this is a

00:44:29

rather long-term result, say, for

00:44:32

at least 10 years,

00:44:35

and I think that more processing of the

00:44:38

population’s brains is

00:44:40

essentially the formation of this

00:44:44

image of

00:44:47

Ukrainians as the main enemy, it

00:44:52

began to happen intensively

00:44:54

Naturally, from the first Maidan somewhere from

00:44:57

2003 to 2004 with the first color

00:45:01

revolution and it was quite powerful. That

00:45:04

is, it’s just that now, compared to

00:45:07

today, it seems to us that there

00:45:09

was nothing there. But in reality, since

00:45:12

2005, the image of Ukrainians has been

00:45:16

such a collective Mazeppa,

00:45:20

where it’s just Karl’s place.

00:45:24

Who were there, respectively, who replaced

00:45:28

Obama is

00:45:31

someone else in general in the American

00:45:34

president, he was very much shaped by

00:45:37

this cumulative result and in

00:45:42

general the result is man-made,

00:45:43

of course, in many ways the result is the

00:45:45

second, it’s

00:45:48

probably all the same,

00:45:53

but there is yes, this is the moment

00:45:58

now after the start of the war

00:46:04

of this a displaced

00:46:10

sight,

00:46:12

as if

00:46:14

for its own pain, there are insults of horror, that is,

00:46:18

it would seem that if people you know die there,

00:46:22

then you should hate those who started this

00:46:25

war, but

00:46:28

you see, the dog does not understand that it is beating a

00:46:32

person, it hates the stick that they are beating and the

00:46:36

people turned out to be.

00:46:39

They hate the

00:46:41

Ukrainians because

00:46:46

Ukrainians are directly killing. They

00:46:48

see the connections that this war was started by

00:46:51

the government itself and dragged in,

00:46:58

and Denis Kozkin asks about also about

00:47:02

Ukraine. In a conversation with the indict, you

00:47:04

said that the Ukrainians are also the Imperial

00:47:06

people who participated in the creation of the

00:47:07

Russian Empire, but could the process of

00:47:10

collecting lands go in the opposite

00:47:12

direction and Kiev will become the center of the empire

00:47:19

Let's separate these two questions. I

00:47:22

really think that

00:47:24

I actually almost finished the

00:47:29

telegram post that

00:47:32

will appear on this topic this evening, so

00:47:34

first of all, I really

00:47:36

think that none of these patterns with the

00:47:41

help of which we tried to describe the

00:47:45

nature of what is now going on between Russia

00:47:48

Ukraine’s war is not completely

00:47:51

accurate,

00:47:52

that is, it is clear that it is nothing of this, an

00:47:57

attempt at the

00:47:59

Patriotic War because it

00:48:01

exists only

00:48:03

in a somewhat fevered imagination,

00:48:06

and the pattern of the Civil War is quite

00:48:10

complex, there is no point of view, it takes

00:48:12

place, but it only partially explains what is

00:48:15

happening I am in In this case, I’m talking about the

00:48:19

civil war, they are primarily in Russia,

00:48:22

to overcome which it was necessary to

00:48:26

introduce society into a totalitarian

00:48:28

state, then as if you had an excess of

00:48:31

energy in a foreign war, the

00:48:34

pattern of a terrorist war seems to be

00:48:36

the most successful, there is such a clear one,

00:48:39

there is a metropolis that is waging a

00:48:44

colonial war with a territory that

00:48:47

did not want to more to be a colony on the

00:48:51

other side there is a colony that

00:48:54

has decided to break completely with

00:48:56

the metropolis and is waging a

00:48:58

war of national liberation this is

00:48:59

very similar very obvious but there

00:49:02

is one thing but

00:49:04

the problem is that if you look

00:49:07

attentively Russia has never had a

00:49:11

typical European empire

00:49:14

there has not been a typical African colony

00:49:18

and now in their hearts there is someone talking about

00:49:21

this, but this is because now

00:49:23

everyone’s emotional state is such that it is enough to

00:49:25

understand that this is not so, that

00:49:28

is, it is enough to put it simply

00:49:30

How to make contour maps there sometime

00:49:33

in school, let’s apply all this to the relations of

00:49:35

Britain India, for example

00:49:43

and we will immediately understand the whole difference Why

00:49:45

Because

00:49:47

in the Russian Empire there was not this

00:49:51

clear border between the metropolis and the

00:49:53

colony, not social, mentally

00:49:58

diffuse, and there was a very powerful two-way assimilation,

00:50:01

and so for two or three

00:50:05

people from

00:50:07

comprador colonial circles

00:50:09

to integrate with the empire, it really

00:50:12

was such a two-way process, it was a

00:50:15

partition that easily crossed in both directions,

00:50:17

and then looking at these

00:50:21

things more carefully, it’s not so formulaic,

00:50:23

then you understand that Ukraine was like it is

00:50:26

now Novaya Gazeta, it has a program

00:50:28

Complicit

00:50:31

editors are making our newspaper, but we are doing it

00:50:36

only because we have many

00:50:37

accomplices,

00:50:39

from my point of view, Ukraine was a very

00:50:42

serious accomplice of

00:50:45

both the Russian and Soviet Empires,

00:50:48

it was not a freeloader and a partner,

00:50:52

and in this sense, paradoxically,

00:50:55

there is a certain duality of the status of

00:50:57

Ukraine, that is, on the one hand, there is absolutely

00:51:00

truth and certification of suppression, even if I do

00:51:04

n’t talk about

00:51:06

lately there, well, listen, this is the whole

00:51:08

history

00:51:09

of Catherine’s

00:51:12

methods of solving the Ukrainian question; it

00:51:16

differs little from the methods that are being

00:51:20

tried to be used today; it

00:51:22

was all forced Russification,

00:51:25

of course there was a Holodomor.

00:51:29

Can it be considered exclusively of the

00:51:31

Ukrainian people; it was part of the

00:51:34

general genocide;

00:51:36

Christianity of the

00:51:39

entire USSR; I won’t get into it now.

00:51:44

This is obviously a

00:51:47

great tragedy,

00:51:52

but at the same time

00:51:54

there was a

00:51:58

direct participation of

00:52:00

Ukrainians in the creation of the empire;

00:52:04

in fact, to put it

00:52:06

mildly, they have a share of this as a

00:52:09

shareholder in the company; in a good way,

00:52:14

this is their everywhere. Listen. This is the victory

00:52:17

in World War II on a

00:52:20

significant share of them. You also

00:52:24

understand victory, and that’s why when some here

00:52:27

say that we can repeat it, but they didn’t

00:52:30

calculate anything, they thought that on the other

00:52:31

hand,

00:52:32

those who achieved the same results

00:52:36

can also repeat it, and maybe precisely

00:52:39

because two empires actually collided,

00:52:41

one obvious, the other not so

00:52:45

obviously it went so

00:52:48

very differently from the

00:52:53

Colonial Wars in Africa,

00:52:56

so this is a very difficult question and this is a

00:52:59

very difficult question, it is even more difficult in

00:53:02

Ukraine than in Russia, of course and

00:53:05

somehow not funny, instinctively

00:53:09

groping there because if only there

00:53:12

were colonies, we were looking for colonies we are looking for

00:53:14

our roots, there wasn’t this struggle for the

00:53:17

Heritage of Kievan Rus,

00:53:20

but if there is a struggle Heirs from Georgia

00:53:23

This means there is an understanding that a lot of the

00:53:26

rest is also not someone else’s, but it’s our own.

00:53:31

You understand, in a sense, this division of a

00:53:35

single heritage is such a difficult one, with

00:53:40

battles where people defend including

00:53:43

its share in the Legacy of the Empire Do

00:53:47

you think that if Russia has some chance of

00:53:50

returning to Western European

00:53:53

civilization or everything will be as

00:53:55

Sorokin said, describing the future in which

00:53:57

Eurasia speaks Russian Chinese

00:53:59

Surzhik asks Evgenov,

00:54:03

is there any such chance, I would

00:54:06

probably be unlikely did he host these programs? And with

00:54:10

you I was

00:54:11

completely immersed in

00:54:13

studying the Chinese language and would learn not to be

00:54:18

embarrassed by hieroglyphs because I believe

00:54:21

that there are chances, I’m trying to defend an

00:54:24

alternative version of the development of Russia in

00:54:27

which it can really remain

00:54:31

sufficiently sovereign, that is,

00:54:34

I apologize for the tautology

00:54:37

of a self-sufficient state which

00:54:39

uses its

00:54:41

position between East and West between

00:54:45

Europe and Asia and

00:54:48

develops in a normal paradigm

00:54:53

another somewhat

00:54:56

different Western European other

00:54:58

Europe let's say sister

00:55:00

civilization I think that there is such a chance but it’s

00:55:03

just that the longer we stay

00:55:07

inside this night of

00:55:10

obscurantism, the harder it is for this chance to be

00:55:12

realized

00:55:14

love asks the question You often talk about the

00:55:17

fact that after Putin, power will pass into the

00:55:19

hands of the radical right, but the conditional

00:55:22

liberals will be supported by the West. Why are the

00:55:23

authorities coming to them? You don’t

00:55:25

consider the more likely scenario.

00:55:29

Well, I don’t reject either scenario,

00:55:34

I

00:55:36

can just say one thing now first the

00:55:40

concept of right and left is

00:55:43

always a problem for us on the

00:55:47

left, so Who is our right Who is our

00:55:50

left is still such a big question,

00:55:53

so Let’s use more

00:55:56

understandable terms, but for me, for example,

00:56:02

national

00:56:04

Bolshevik radicals or as you

00:56:07

like to say Turbo patriots I

00:56:11

don’t like to speak I don’t like

00:56:13

to use the word we

00:56:22

are talking about a

00:56:27

radical nationalist

00:56:30

community that

00:56:36

is not good for the Pope’s network applied to

00:56:40

Putin

00:56:41

Yes, I hope he does not yet lay claim

00:56:45

to at least that throne. Well, which, as it were, will

00:56:51

lead you than the Kremlin itself

00:56:54

Well, yes, that is, from my point of view, it is obvious

00:56:57

that their opponents who stood for

00:57:00

liberal values and democratic

00:57:03

Freedom, they lost at the previous

00:57:06

stages of the political struggle and today

00:57:10

their centers of resistance inside Russia have been

00:57:13

practically crushed, at least

00:57:16

organizationally,

00:57:18

and therefore now you are their opponents simply

00:57:22

and the flight time is less and there are

00:57:27

more opportunities to immediately immediately

00:57:30

after

00:57:34

tectonic shifts will begin to manifest themselves as an

00:57:38

organized armed force from the point of view of that moment. That's why

00:57:41

I'm saying

00:57:44

that Well, these guys are

00:57:47

several miles closer to their goal

00:57:49

today as for the support of the West. But you

00:57:55

know such an interesting question, these forces have had support

00:57:59

throughout in all the previous 30 years,

00:58:02

I never felt it, something

00:58:04

didn’t help much,

00:58:08

on the contrary, I learned how to fight

00:58:12

without looking back at this support is

00:58:18

coming to an end during our program.

00:58:20

I would like to ask

00:58:23

myself to take advantage of it. Because I also watch your viewers and our

00:58:27

broadcast, and others too I would like to

00:58:30

know where you are lately looking for

00:58:33

some source of hope that everything

00:58:38

will be resolved in the right good right

00:58:40

direction

00:58:42

and And listen I’m not in the last

00:58:45

penultimate to the last I have

00:58:48

some kind of

00:58:49

mystical view of culture

00:58:53

I believe that culture is a single

00:58:56

timeless

00:58:58

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00:59:00

education is such a substance

00:59:02

that is

00:59:04

often

00:59:06

strong not only for its momentary

00:59:10

modern means.

00:59:13

That is, I

00:59:14

see and I think that it is difficult to dispute

00:59:18

that we are experiencing

00:59:20

overall

00:59:22

degradation, we have already said and in fact

00:59:27

many of the processes that

00:59:31

we observe are considered as

00:59:33

critical, including

00:59:35

Russia's breakdown in this crazy and seemingly

00:59:40

endless war is the result of what was

00:59:44

once called the cultural immunodeficiency syndrome,

00:59:48

namely the cultural immunodeficiency syndrome

00:59:53

led to the fact that

00:59:56

Russia missed the first most powerful

00:59:59

blow of entropy,

01:00:02

this led to the criminals

01:00:04

taking a

01:00:05

dominant position within the country and

01:00:08

then internal the evolution of this

01:00:11

priority and the need for him to look for

01:00:16

support in order to retain power and

01:00:20

make it hereditary led to the

01:00:21

fact that he absorbed

01:00:25

radical nationalist ideology from the environment,

01:00:30

kneaded it into dough from this dough,

01:00:33

sculpted a

01:00:35

militaristic aggressive state,

01:00:37

but that is, we now see the result

01:00:39

needed remember that all this happened

01:00:41

because at some stage a

01:00:44

cultural failure occurred and those

01:00:47

cultural

01:00:49

brakes that were supposed to

01:00:51

prevent this criminalization of

01:00:53

Russian society in the first place did not work, and to put it mildly, long

01:00:57

before Putin, long before Putin himself is not the

01:01:00

cause, the consequence of these processes,

01:01:03

therefore

01:01:04

at the same time I believe that the potential of a

01:01:07

culture cannot be assessed by its

01:01:10

state, let’s say the last 30 years, that

01:01:14

it is a very complex substance

01:01:17

that more closely resembles to me a

01:01:19

huge huge

01:01:23

fishing net that is put on a

01:01:27

Wild number

01:01:30

and how good fishing nets are, there are

01:01:34

a lot of layers, there are a lot layers

01:01:36

and even if you

01:01:43

went through the reasons the trawler still breaks

01:01:48

several of these layers, a percentage of the way

01:01:51

there are others, they all remain below and they

01:01:54

then somehow restored somehow they

01:01:56

are restored, everything takes time

01:01:58

they are restored and everything does not depend

01:02:01

on this, in fact, there are current

01:02:04

wounds torn but from the power of the network as a whole

01:02:09

and in this sense, for me there are, although

01:02:13

controversial in some way, but nevertheless the same and

01:02:15

Pushkin Dostoevsky Mayakovsky

01:02:18

Dudintsev And that’s all And that’s all that was it

01:02:23

is part of modernity This is a

01:02:26

rather powerful culture a rather powerful

01:02:28

culture that for many years which a

01:02:31

lizard has repeatedly demonstrated

01:02:35

its ability to grow a tail. This is the

01:02:37

ability that the network

01:02:41

in general, I can’t say that for me there is

01:02:43

some new source of optimism, we

01:02:45

understand that

01:02:48

those degree of reservation, let’s say,

01:02:53

development in this culture

01:02:57

was called an embedded development gene

01:03:02

and she it’s quite high, it’s still high, the

01:03:07

fact that everything is happening is tragic, but there is

01:03:10

potential for it all to be

01:03:11

digested and ground,

01:03:14

thank you thank you for this conversation Thank you

01:03:17

for the answer Thank you to our wonderful

01:03:18

viewers for sending in

01:03:20

several hundred great questions, it

01:03:22

was really very difficult to choose

01:03:24

the ones we We had time to discuss with you today.

01:03:27

By the way, every now and then

01:03:28

I looked into the chat so that maybe some other

01:03:31

question would appear there. But you know,

01:03:32

every time I go into the chat it’s as if I’m at

01:03:34

your party in honor of your

01:03:36

birthday at the end of our program I

01:03:38

wanted to congratulate you on On the last

01:03:39

birthday, the audience also joins you.

01:03:47

I’m just like on some kind of broadcast, I

01:03:51

feel thicker in the famous film of

01:03:54

Menshov on an artificial birthday,

01:03:57

some kind of not natural good,

01:03:59

it turns out congratulations

01:04:02

Yes, thank you,

01:04:05

if you like it in parting, it

01:04:09

will be even better then cook See you

01:04:11

in a week, it turns out Thank you very much

01:04:13

See you All the best, happy goodbye

01:04:15

and dear viewers, too, for now,

01:04:17

stay at Avtorkovsky Life, we have a lot of

01:04:18

interesting things

01:04:20

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Why does my computer freeze when loading a "Как пройти между струй? Новые элиты? Откуда ненависть к Украине? Вопросы зрителей/Пастухов, Еловский" video?

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How can I download an audio track (music) to MP3 "Как пройти между струй? Новые элиты? Откуда ненависть к Украине? Вопросы зрителей/Пастухов, Еловский"?

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