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and the situation in Belarus, a possible
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attack, sentiments within the country,
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we talk further Valery Sokhashchik,
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representative of the joint transitional
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cabinet of Belarus for defense and
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national security Valery Hello
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Good evening What is the situation
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in Belarus today, is there an exact number of
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how many Russian military personnel are in
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the country and what are they doing
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Russian troops
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according to information which my
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team has there is a rotation of
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trained Russian units
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returning to Russia new ones arrive
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for training
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within 15,000 grouping still
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exists The
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Belarusian army does not participate in
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hostilities on the territory of Ukraine but
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theoretically Belarusians can fight
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as mercenaries this is Ukrainian
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intelligence data if the facts are that the Kremlin
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made attempts to recruit or is already
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recruiting possibly Belarusians,
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I cannot guarantee the reliability
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of the information, but we have inside information that
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suggests that there was serious
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funding from Moscow
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for the development of a private war of the service company
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after that the Company received serious
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development, a
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large number of people were recruited,
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they received very good weapons and
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equipment equipment and is actively engaged
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in several training grounds in Belarus Well, what
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makes you think that it is quite
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likely that these people will be used here is a
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clarification about the company
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you were talking about there was information in the
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media that
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Lukashenko is supposedly afraid of his
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surroundings, even including he had
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doubts about
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how well his security corresponded to his expectations,
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let’s say, and he led to the
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dismissal of security and the hiring of
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new security guards from among this
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security company, the name of which you
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said
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that you know about this Is it true or not
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I think this is gossip in fact, the
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selection is very strict for Lukashenko’s security service,
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and I think that there are
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no serious grounds for
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suspecting their lack of loyalty. Yes, there
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were some periods immediately after the elections of the
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twentieth year when, in addition to the
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presidential security service itself, some strange people
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were walking around in Lukashenko’s entourage
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there are no serious reasons
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to say that he disbanded his guards and
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recruited service
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in 25 days, a year of a full-scale war between
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Russia and Ukraine, all this year we have been
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constantly talking about the fact that
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Belarus could attack, an attack is being prepared
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Putin is persuading Lukashenko to
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fully enter the war well, it’s been like
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a year and we see that Lukashenko is meandering all the time, he’s
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delaying, he doesn’t want to, I don’t know what
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else to call it, recently
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a statement appeared that Lukashenko said that they say that
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Kiev generally offered Minsk
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not to attack to sign, according to you, what
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game is Lukashenko playing?
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Well, we are trying to introduce Putin’s behavior and luxury
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say, uh, trying to
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talk about whether this is beneficial for Lukashenko
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or not. Of course, you come to the conclusion
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that it is absolutely unprofitable for him, and moreover, it is
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extremely dangerous to send his
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army to Ukraine. But how
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independent is he in making decisions? And is
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this his decision at all? Well, I have to talk about
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to say this now, few people know how the decision-
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perception algorithm actually happens there now. I just
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wanted to clarify with you
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who makes the decision. Who, in principle,
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leads the Belarusian army, the
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Belarusian army, Putin or Lukashenko.
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Well, Russian troops feel at
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home in Belarus,
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but according to the information I have I have
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n’t been asking anyone for a long time now
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what Belarus should do.
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Belarusians have been removed from many objects occupied by Russian troops, at
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least about which I have information
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that security is carried out only by
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Russians inside, all actions are carried out only by
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Russians. Even let’s say the Arsenal of
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large artillery from where
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ammunition is constantly being loaded,
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trains are sent
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to Russia to participate in the war with Ukraine,
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all Belarusians have been removed, there are
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Belarusian personnel and security and
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loading and unloading work is all
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carried out by Russians. I observe a
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complete lack of trust in the Russian women of
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this majority of Belarusians, a lack of
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trust in the Russians somehow
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seems so to me the situation looks
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like A little more than two years ago,
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Lukashenko said in one of his interviews
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that tanks would never come from the territory of Belarus to the
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territory of Ukraine.
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February 24, 2022 came and tanks
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came, including from the territory of Belarus.
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What do you think as you read? Perhaps
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you have some specific information
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about this in that interview, Lukashenko simply
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lied or he himself might not yet know about
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Putin’s plans to
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fully invade Ukraine,
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as far as I remember, the interview with Dmitry
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Gordon took place there about a
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week before the start of full-scale
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aggression Well, maybe there two weeks
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Well then Yes, it definitely happened in the twentieth
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year. Yes, indeed, in this
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interview, Lukashenko said that
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this would never happen. I admit that he
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admits that he was not fully privy
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to Russia’s plans, but there are many facts
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that indicate that for some
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major things he was informed
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long before the start of the
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full-scale aggression on February 24 last
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year You said that the Russians
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feel at home in Belarus, the
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Belarusians now feel at
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home in their country, do they understand
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that this is a kind of occupation of Russia,
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Belarus
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is very many of this understand, I’m sure
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that the vast majority of Belarusians
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understand this, many have left
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the country,
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some are trying to resist somehow, but
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it’s not that easy, the regime very harshly
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suppresses any attempts at disobedience,
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let’s call it that Well, today it’s
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extremely dangerous for us for any
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actions now there is a firing squad and
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people receive, well, for now, huge sentences,
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up to 20 years in prison for
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some completely minor actions,
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which are interpreted as serious war
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crimes, so it’s difficult to judge
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such a general state of the entire
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people of Belarus, no sociology here It has
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n’t been carried out for a long time, it’s impossible. It’s
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just that in our country, well, I’m sure that the
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overwhelming majority of Belarusians
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perceive what is happening in the same way
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as you and I and they are against the presence of a
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foreign army on the territory of our country and
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against possible scenarios of
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Belarus’ participation in aggression and all possible
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consequences
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Tell me what are the moods of the Belarusian
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army,
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according to the information I have? I have at least 80
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percent of the military personnel of Belarus
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against what is happening; they do not
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support the war; they categorically do not
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want to participate in this war; it is
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difficult to say how many people
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will behave if they are placed within the framework of
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the need to execute an order;
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after all,
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military service is specific
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activities,
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therefore, I would not indulge in excessive
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optimism,
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but I know for sure that the mood of the
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vast majority of military personnel
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is rejection
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and possible participation in Russia, as well as
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condemnation of Russia’s actions,
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and as far as I don’t know, there are fresh protest
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sentiments among the population, if let’s say
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Belarus and Lukashenko decide to
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fully enter the war
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against Russia Ukraine Will Belarusians take to
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the streets
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in your opinion? On February 27, we had a
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lot of people come out despite the
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most severe suppression, despite the
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serious danger, a
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lot of people protested in Minsk,
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just in front of the building of the
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Ministry of Defense of Belarus,
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more than 800 people were detained.
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Well, there really were mass actions,
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it’s difficult to predict what will happen if
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he tries to drag him into aggression?
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I think that despite the fear of punishment and
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repression, this can still serve as a
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trigger for
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protests. I think that this is absolutely
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real because the fear of being beaten and
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arrested,
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yes. And at the same time, of course, Belarusian
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Propaganda didn’t say a word.
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to assume about these protests, you
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know, we very often talk about
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Russian propaganda. And in my opinion,
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very little Belarusian, I would like to
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discuss this with you, there is such a comrade
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Ozarenok Yes, I don’t remember what his name is,
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which Well, clearly confirms the popular
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wisdom That it is better to remain silent than to turn out to be a
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fool open your mouth and completely
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dispel doubts about this, his style of
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conduct, let's call it that way, is quite
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specific to whom it is intended. People in
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Minsk in Gomel in Brest They believe in it,
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people who serve in the Belarusian army
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They watch and listen to it
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I think that this does not bother
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Ozarenko much people like him listen to them or don’t
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listen to them. Well, some part of the population
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still listens. Let a small part of them pay them
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good money for their work, they
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try to work and lead further.
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Well, Lukashenko calls the population of
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Belarus the citizens of Belarus people;
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to them This is such
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stinking Propaganda,
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well, what cannot be implemented with the
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help of propaganda is implemented with the
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help of repression of intimidation, for
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today it works for now
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Unfortunately Thank you very much Valeria
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sugar worker, the representative of the joint
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transitional cabinet of Belarus for defense
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and national security was our guest,
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they discussed the situation in white and How
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likely is it that Lukashenko will decide to
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fully enter the war on the side of
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Russia against Ukraine Thank you

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