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we were all arrested at the rabbi's club and00:00:09
I was led to the car I was accompanied00:00:13
Frankie Copper these two agents who were00:00:15
determined to work for me already00:00:17
long long time I'm good00:00:19
knew so they handcuffed me and I00:00:22
put in their cars00:00:24
I think John Gotti was locked up00:00:26
the car is solid, we say it was the main one00:00:28
agent in this case00:00:30
Ukrainian varnish was just another car I00:00:33
not sure who he was with by this time00:00:36
when we left the club right and00:00:38
turned out to be cars00:00:40
There were more than just FBI agents around00:00:42
but a ton of police officers00:00:45
journalists have already begun to gather and00:00:50
it looked like a whole entourage of people00:00:52
who accompanied us federally00:00:54
naturally insulator new york00:00:56
[music]00:01:14
I hear the records will last00:01:19
franke copper ask yourself do you have it00:01:22
money myself jewelry something like that I00:01:25
said yes if you want you can00:01:28
give it to us, we will give it back, etc. They00:01:32
so they talked about d as if na was ok00:01:33
sister or something00:01:35
they say we will give it back, etc. he said that00:01:37
because as soon as they deliver you00:01:39
tied up insulator check you everywhere00:01:41
and you'll never see it again00:01:43
and clothes this money I thought it was00:01:46
it was a good idea they took the handcuffs off00:01:48
I put my hand in my pocket and left it there00:01:51
The 50 dollars I was left with00:01:53
go to the detention center, I took off my jewelry and gave it to00:01:56
her and00:01:58
we continued in the direction of returning to00:02:02
by the time we got to00:02:03
the isolation building it wasn't that far00:02:05
from cube00:02:06
it was full of reporters00:02:10
representatives of the press00:02:12
police officers00:02:14
marshals american marshals all all00:02:17
were then00:02:19
I understood that it was serious00:02:23
I knew that all this had a lot of teeth00:02:27
so they took us out of the cars and didn’t open the buildings00:02:30
insulator00:02:31
there was something like a registration00:02:34
background inspection00:02:39
I was asked if we had any00:02:42
jewelry00:02:43
I said he no00:02:45
Do you have any money? I said I gave it00:02:48
I'm fifty bucks00:02:49
John made a big joke about this00:02:52
said that's all you have 5000:02:54
dollars00:02:56
I need a disk, that's all I have00:02:59
I didn’t say I’ll remind you when we go out00:03:01
freedom so I can raise your salary00:03:03
the cops agents all laughed it was00:03:06
funny it's a cute joke john knew how to do00:03:09
all sorts of cutesy little comments00:03:11
he did it very well john00:03:13
there were a couple thousand Ukrainian dollars00:03:15
I also mowed down two three thousand00:03:16
they had few dollars and00:03:19
in New York everything was taken from them, I don’t know00:03:22
did they get it all back I know00:03:24
that before they turned the next day00:03:27
they went to my house and handed over00:03:29
gave my wife jewelry money and I had 3 before00:03:33
Then they gave 4 thousand dollars and00:03:35
they all kept their word and00:03:39
they basically always act like this00:03:41
way00:03:43
so we entered and were led into the interior00:03:46
prison on the ninth floor00:03:48
I was placed in a cell in the gotye zone00:03:51
Frankie was alone in the cell and00:03:54
On the other hand, Tommy carotene was his00:03:56
cell he was already arrested and therefore in00:04:00
camera00:04:02
we were on the same floor all ointment00:04:05
And00:04:09
it was crazy00:04:12
somehow I was allowed to do00:04:14
phone call it was a call that00:04:17
paid by the party to whom I called00:04:20
I talk to the operator and say my name and00:04:22
who am I calling00:04:24
the operator says not yourself, you back yourself00:04:29
I can't believe what the operator is saying00:04:31
call me was with you and answered yes00:04:34
I think that's who he is00:04:36
she says no no I'm just a fan and00:04:39
she talked to me I said ok00:04:41
do me a favor follow me on00:04:43
she connected me to such and such a number00:04:45
so the number and00:04:47
it was like this almost throughout the entire prison00:04:50
the term they used to talk about us00:04:51
guards prisoners all00:04:55
I received at least 30 40 postcards00:04:59
We send all sorts of letters to people00:05:01
all sorts of places00:05:05
I think it was 30 40 something like that00:05:08
number and john he must have got 10000:05:10
150 letters and postcards they came00:05:12
every day it reduced the guards' amount00:05:15
carry all this mail00:05:17
it bothered them but they had to00:05:19
do your job like00:05:22
you were going to take a shower00:05:26
security suits the camera put on00:05:28
handcuffs00:05:30
takes me through the corridor brings me00:05:32
to the shower and put your hands through00:05:35
door he uncuffs me and he00:05:38
include water00:05:42
the water starts flowing and it's hot00:05:45
she's really scorching hot00:05:48
burns me I start screaming the guard00:05:51
for him to come over00:05:54
my fingers are starting to turn red and00:05:57
waiting for me00:05:59
there was a small strip on the rail00:06:01
put my fingers there, raised my body00:06:03
as much as I could00:06:05
to come out of the water and the water bubbles00:06:08
around me00:06:10
I started calling the guards as best I could00:06:15
the guard comes up and says something I00:06:18
said the water is [ __ ] hot, it’s steaming00:06:21
I can't turn it off and I can't do anything00:06:24
do lower the temperature of this water and00:06:27
he says but I'm busy now and I'm busy00:06:31
just wow00:06:33
I'm already getting burns00:06:35
I raised my hand and hit this little one00:06:38
a window that you can't break at all00:06:40
And00:06:41
ahira something window and then I hear how00:06:44
Richie John Gotti at the top of his lungs00:06:48
Tommy Karate throws some of his things00:06:50
the door to your cell00:06:52
everyone's gone a little crazy00:06:56
finally these nand and a couple of guards00:06:59
appears they solve the problem00:07:02
I'm taking a shower and I'm burned to some extent00:07:05
degree I00:07:06
I'm going back00:07:07
I was already in handcuffs when I left, but I want00:07:10
choke this guard00:07:12
I'm just furious00:07:15
John is also still furious and we00:07:17
back to John's camera he starts00:07:20
complain00:07:22
did you hear frankie lock assy00:07:25
I said no I haven't heard anything about00:07:28
I got burned and burned, I heard that00:07:30
there were big screams and what was he00:07:32
did john said this [ __ ] [ __ ] even00:07:35
didn’t shout didn’t hit the door with anything00:07:36
tommy did you do karate00:07:39
I said maybe he was sleeping maybe00:07:42
he didn't listen when it all started00:07:43
I heard everything, I think it's half a prison00:07:45
damn I heard that00:07:47
to this I said I don’t know, maybe it’s something00:07:50
do you want me to say life00:07:53
continued we had appointments00:07:55
court hearings and other miscellaneous things I00:07:57
I knew there were some wiretaps but I didn't00:08:00
I heard and I didn’t know what they were like00:08:02
present00:08:03
I didn’t know what places they came from and00:08:06
we went to 1 entity and judge00:08:10
Alice said00:08:15
how can you keep them imprisoned00:08:19
they we did nothing and how can they00:08:21
fight your case from prison00:08:24
I think we need to evaluate kotova00:08:27
if the risk00:08:28
that they will escape or are a threat to society from00:08:32
them and so on and so forth00:08:35
so it was stated about the risk that we can00:08:37
I started running and the judge pointed at me00:08:40
this guy was right on trial about00:08:43
tax evasion is enough00:08:45
serious matter he was in front of me00:08:47
released him on bail he showed up00:08:49
always on time for every scheduled date00:08:51
and when it's time to pronounce judgment00:08:54
end, that is, not passing a verdict on00:08:57
he or they are guilty of deprivation but I said00:09:00
he will be judged and he was and00:09:02
he knew that if there was an indictment00:09:05
sentence he would have been taken into custody00:09:07
there and he came to court I saw eight on00:09:10
hearings two or three times so I don’t see it00:09:13
there is a risk that he went on the run00:09:15
show me how they are each of them00:09:17
pose a threat to society00:09:22
that is, fact and court put pressure on00:09:24
power00:09:28
the first thing the authorities did in00:09:30
the prison where we were00:09:32
there was a compartment, the isolated part itself00:09:34
they took this part of the floor and you vacated it00:09:37
completely and there were 8 cameras00:09:39
I was in my cell, John was in my cell.00:09:43
Frankie was in his cell, there were two00:09:46
Indian sheikh somehow they were called from00:09:48
Muslim group00:09:49
they were terrorists they were each of them00:09:53
was in separate cells00:09:57
John Gotti Irish Pub00:10:00
the so-called terrorist he was driving00:10:03
sky paramilitary groups a.r. And00:10:05
he was there00:10:06
john hom head of chinese drug00:10:09
organizations00:10:14
another person in the apartment end chapter00:10:17
Port or Kanska drug gangs00:10:20
that is, everyone had their own fireplace00:10:25
corridor in the center there were two tables near00:10:27
whom you could sit and play00:10:29
cards for example the end of this compartment was00:10:32
phone on the wall and00:10:34
at the end of the compartment, of course, there were bars00:10:37
therefore it was not a general security prison00:10:40
but they let us out in the morning so that we00:10:43
could pass to talk to each other and00:10:45
they thought it was enough00:10:47
for sit and00:10:49
they've been doing this for a while it's been00:10:53
where I talked about this before00:10:55
Frankie had a job cleaning this polish00:10:58
kitchen and00:11:01
he returned with 12 oranges00:11:03
beautiful oranges00:11:06
I've never even seen anything like this before00:11:08
beautiful orange I asked where you got it00:11:11
all these oranges he said they probably00:11:13
were for guards not for sitting I00:11:16
I stole 90 of them, take one yourself00:11:21
took from00:11:22
John usually slept until 11 pm 12 we00:11:26
got up early 7am went out chatting00:11:29
watched the TV that hung there00:11:32
they were doing this kind of [ __ ]00:11:37
I took one and he wanted to take one and he00:11:42
said the other ten poison and john i00:11:46
told him that's right, he's the boss00:11:49
he should get the lion's share give it back00:11:52
Musya 10 he took the oxide camera and waited00:11:56
we'll show it00:11:59
I was sitting at the table when John became he00:12:02
he must have listened to us, he woke up00:12:04
a little earlier that day I left00:12:07
camera I saw the displeasure on his face00:12:09
he was angry about something00:12:12
So00:12:14
he sat down at the table I said good morning husband00:12:17
he barely answered00:12:21
edge came out of his cell he saw00:12:24
his00:12:25
took the remaining 10 oranges and brought them00:12:28
T-shirts went to the table and turned them out00:12:30
T-shirt laid them all out on the table oh genie00:12:32
this is all for you00:12:34
John replied shove them up your ass00:12:38
I was shocked when I heard this00:12:41
he said pointing at me he is not the boss00:12:45
I'm the [ __ ] boss and you gave them first and00:12:48
can00:12:50
then I say John you were sleeping shut your mouth not with00:12:53
I'm talking to you, he's interrupting me00:12:55
I shut up he hit Frankie terrible00:12:59
way00:13:01
it was awkward and humiliating00:13:04
I looked around and turned my head00:13:07
didn't say anything00:13:09
I shouldn't have I looked at the guys00:13:12
everyone was looking at us00:13:14
and clapped his hands two or three times00:13:16
in front of him and said listen to the guy00:13:18
do me a favor come back00:13:20
your camera00:13:22
the fact that this is an incredibly serious guy00:13:24
now you're telling the topic to come back to00:13:27
camera00:13:28
I said I'm not trying to seem here00:13:30
serious guys john you have the right00:13:32
you are the boss so you can insult me00:13:34
tell Frankie they are in front of all these00:13:36
size00:13:38
you were teaching me cosa nostra john i00:13:42
I know what Cosa Nostra is, as well as00:13:43
Although you are the boss, I understand and you don’t00:13:46
[ __ ] this right to do what you want00:13:47
are you doing now00:13:49
you will be fired for some reason, but00:13:52
you have no such right00:13:55
he noisily threw his hands on the table and began00:13:57
get up when he's about to get me up00:13:59
hit or something00:14:01
when I ended up in prison I was small00:14:03
tall man00:14:06
I took some steroids and I weighed 9000:14:10
I put kilograms at 8 centimeters00:14:12
that moment was fresh00:14:15
I glared at him I said you00:14:18
if you want to use force, remember the goat rule00:14:20
nostra if you raise your hand against me00:14:22
I have the right to hit you or kill you00:14:25
in the song can I can00:14:28
Time forces crawled [ __ ] Elena Borz00:14:33
we will resolve this issue when we00:14:35
we'll be free, I've done a lot00:14:37
work I did a lot of things for the family I00:14:42
said you're absolutely [ __ ] right when we00:14:44
Let's go out ladies and solve this cathedral00:14:48
it's over00:14:51
Well, and on and on and time goes on and00:14:55
we're here on the corner00:14:58
somehow a security guard comes up to me and00:15:00
to speak for ourselves, we organized a small00:15:03
recreational space on the roof00:15:04
want to get up and00:15:06
I said yes, losses are allowed but he00:15:09
says it's raining there now I told me00:15:11
too bad I'll go to the roof you have there00:15:14
jacket or shaky something like that yes00:15:16
and that is what we have00:15:17
I served in the army00:15:20
when I was a young boy00:15:22
I was drafted into the army as a teenager, I went00:15:26
serve 19 years did not return 2100:15:30
I felt good in the army00:15:33
so I go up to the roof for this00:15:36
scenery and it's raining for me00:15:39
they gave me a work jacket00:15:42
military work course where soldiers and00:15:45
military cap00:15:48
I think it was a push from the authorities00:15:50
the authorities had extra copies of them00:15:52
thrown here00:15:53
I went out in this uniform and began to walk under00:15:56
rain in circles and00:15:59
this afdahl me with memories of my00:16:01
being in the army reminded me of life00:16:04
the love that I had for others00:16:05
affairs00:16:08
it was very good00:16:13
I went down after that and entered our00:16:15
they kept a compartment for us00:16:19
I told John it's raining that they00:16:23
they give you a military jacket00:16:25
I put my hat on00:16:27
I'm starting it's good because I was in00:16:29
army in the ass army interrupts below we don't00:16:31
we want the country to win we want00:16:34
so that our authorities lose the line to Arama00:16:37
at that time i think it was george00:16:40
Bush Sr. then there was a war in the Persian Gulf00:16:42
there was some kind of phase and00:16:45
he says this00:16:48
This is what I basically don’t like00:16:50
I didn't want ours to lose00:16:52
said I will die there, our children and our children00:16:55
people in this war we are our country00:16:57
participates in hostilities you want00:16:59
for them to die we lost00:17:03
I didn't really pay much attention to this but00:17:06
it was another leg with john we had00:17:08
there was a next hearing in court and00:17:14
the judge told authorities00:17:17
unless you give me a reason00:17:21
why you keep them in prison00:17:24
they are now in a specially isolated zone00:17:27
they are not among people00:17:29
if they are not moved to people I00:17:33
I'll arrange another hearing at which00:17:35
their bail will be discussed00:17:36
don't make me do this i.e.00:17:40
the judge created pressure on the authorities00:17:41
asked how they are00:17:43
a threat to society and00:17:46
here00:17:48
this is the first time I've heard the recordings00:17:51
in open court00:17:53
government officials to convince the judge00:17:56
play these records00:18:00
these records I'm not on them at all00:18:04
There's John Gotti and Film Lock Assy00:18:06
Frankie says this very little00:18:09
a little bit on these recordings and John goes to sleep00:18:11
who complains about how I kill00:18:13
people connected to trade unions like me00:18:15
I take over the unions by killing my own00:18:17
partners and takes over the business, nothing from00:18:20
this is not true I never00:18:22
did this00:18:32
so this is an image of us in prison00:18:35
how crooked it was00:18:39
there are dozens of stories about this00:18:43
[music]00:19:04
I once saw a black guy who00:19:07
sat in solitary confinement00:19:11
he was in the section where there was a punching bag and00:19:16
he hit this bag00:19:19
strong powerful guy00:19:22
but he didn't throw his punches like00:19:24
professional fighter inflicted them he did not00:19:26
he turned around he didn't put his weight00:19:28
blows00:19:31
I looked and told them listen if you00:19:35
will you turn around if you do00:19:37
put the weight of your blow your blows00:19:40
will be so much stronger and00:19:42
I see how you hit this punching bag very00:19:44
strongly00:19:45
you hit like dynamite and00:19:48
he wanted me to show him I showed him00:19:51
a little bit for him and he repeated after me because00:19:54
wanted to do a small one with me00:19:55
sparring is not the sparring we wanted00:19:58
would injure each other we introduced each other00:20:00
friend if I hurt him then I00:20:02
stops00:20:04
or if it wasn't him who brought the pain00:20:06
we didn't want to stop00:20:08
we wanted to harm each other with you00:20:09
good workout and he wanted me00:20:12
showed him some technique00:20:14
things and so on00:20:16
Don finds out about this, a lawyer sees us00:20:20
by that time we were divided into00:20:22
different too00:20:23
I was on eleventh south he was on00:20:27
one with there northern film was on00:20:30
ninth north well00:20:32
so we went in with the lawyers and00:20:39
he uses the m word to define me00:20:44
but I liked communicating with this00:20:46
black guy00:20:47
like I love this type of people and00:20:51
he makes a joke out of it and00:20:54
the lawyer grins and some are nearby00:20:57
he also starts giggling, it’s John himself00:20:59
Gotti says and you should kiss him on the00:21:00
ass bro and I didn't like it and00:21:03
Bro told one of the lawyers and00:21:06
you think this is funny00:21:10
what he just said00:21:14
no, I just don’t need to talk here00:21:17
Sammy I'm asking you a question you're grinning00:21:19
laughing means thinking it's [ __ ]00:21:21
funny00:21:24
John says it's not there I say John00:21:27
I don't even know what you're talking about black00:21:30
this white guy hit a punching bag00:21:33
guy in prison00:21:35
I don't look at his race or color00:21:40
this guy was hitting a punching bag he wanted00:21:43
he wanted to play and spar with00:21:45
me I did there is nothing wrong with this and00:21:48
when you say something about it I even00:21:50
I don’t understand this and that’s how special it is00:21:52
this moment take this guy passes00:21:53
to meet you and give you the keys themselves and he waves00:21:56
I think, damn, my God, he did it00:22:00
even worse, but these are the things with which I00:22:02
I had to live like a nightmare00:22:06
I'll give you more experience00:22:08
I went to a meeting with a lawyer00:22:11
I come back and00:22:13
when I got back I think it's in part00:22:16
m00:22:17
in this part and became one of those someone00:22:19
controls almost everything in this part00:22:21
there were some level to throw00:22:25
she was on the eleventh floor south00:22:28
section there were no cameras it was a party00:22:30
in dorm00:22:31
this part contained parts I don't remember00:22:35
how much is about 23 people but in each00:22:37
there were four sections of this part00:22:39
person with two bunk beds00:22:41
And00:22:43
I let this guy named Porter00:22:45
black guy he was a good guy00:22:49
said porter you can take this section00:22:51
this space and take three of your own00:22:53
good guys and you can settle down00:22:55
it's your00:22:57
other Spanish guys were in another00:23:00
sections the rest and was the majority were00:23:03
Italians Irish people from large00:23:06
faction families and I kept in touch with00:23:08
guards and with everyone we needed00:23:10
this department is quite strong00:23:15
so this is where and how I sit in my time00:23:18
before trial00:23:19
like I said one day I'm coming back00:23:22
at a meeting with a lawyer and one of the guys00:23:24
as far as I remember he was in the Lopez family00:23:30
I said it myself, he wants that guy there00:23:34
talk so I can turn around and see00:23:36
quite old big black00:23:39
guy with gray hair00:23:42
I came up and asked how can I help you00:23:44
help bruce what do you need he nothing me00:23:47
I see that people here are playing rope and he00:23:49
starts telling me that he is sitting00:23:51
we've lost this old man for more than 30 years and00:23:57
that he played pinnacle with reputable00:23:59
criminals00:24:00
they call big names and all that00:24:02
other I00:24:04
said we play and tilt here everyone00:24:06
day you want to play00:24:09
he says you know how I am here bro00:24:11
I just arrived there are no places00:24:16
because you know how black is00:24:19
the way things are, no, I don’t know how00:24:22
the way things are, come there with me so I00:24:25
I come up they play cards I said who00:24:28
the following do not answer themselves if you00:24:31
do you want to play what I said00:24:32
ok come on, who is your partner?00:24:35
you could hear the glasses00:24:39
said if the problem is who is mine00:24:42
partner no no no no and no one at all00:24:47
no one cared at all00:24:49
weren't just a little surprised00:24:51
because it doesn't happen every day00:24:53
happens in prison especially at the beginning00:24:58
so I go to the meeting and we end up with00:25:00
John and00:25:03
he starts I then I this00:25:09
I said bro bro they've been in jail for 30s00:25:12
for some reason he wanted to play [ __ ]00:25:14
pinnacle00:25:15
someday you'll stop this, we're here00:25:18
fighting for our lives we can get00:25:20
for life and you're worried about who I'm with00:25:22
I play cards with whom I spar00:25:26
in other words it looks like everything00:25:29
I do now it's some kind of problem00:25:33
but you need to learn how to do it yourself00:25:35
is serving his time, I think I'm serving time00:25:38
and quite well but anyway I00:25:40
will be studying00:25:42
so it was one incident after another00:25:46
many now standing fats can say00:25:48
no johnny was racist he wasn't acting00:25:50
So00:25:51
but when he already received a sentence00:25:55
he continued his Russian Macedonian and and00:25:58
some black guy kicked him00:26:00
ass there are photos of him after that and00:26:04
evidence inside the prison00:26:08
the next day he threw it out again00:26:11
regarding the same guy this guy from00:26:13
white again00:26:14
then he went to the members of the Aryan00:26:16
brotherhood to give them money for their00:26:18
protection and00:26:19
to kill this black guy00:26:22
rumors spread around the prison about this black00:26:25
the guy was taken from this prison somewhere he00:26:27
survived so there is a whole trail00:26:29
this is a Russian topic that goes around00:26:31
distant past00:26:32
but let me stay00:26:35
focused on what I'm talking about00:26:36
I told you because it already happened00:26:37
much more polar00:26:42
so we continue to go to these00:26:44
court hearings and we all turn around00:26:47
I started talking to people and catching rumors00:26:52
before we were arrested john00:26:55
ordered me to go on the run and00:27:02
before he went on the run00:27:04
wanted me to kill another dzhigan00:27:07
I knew what was behind the murder market00:27:10
sensor00:27:14
I loved frenky like a brother I swore an oath00:27:17
over his coffin00:27:21
that one day I will avenge Frankie's00:27:24
one day I'll get even so when johnny00:27:26
said kill china that was the music for00:27:29
my ears00:27:32
I was determined to fulfill my purpose00:27:34
the obligation of this sensor Frankie over00:27:35
his coffin00:27:41
but this matter hangs over our heads00:27:44
it was before the arrest and he said00:27:48
I'm still hiding, I'm running away, I'm hiding00:27:51
he told me he postponed the murder of the rank in00:27:53
side00:27:56
you will see what information will be against00:27:58
us if I get arrested00:28:00
I don't know who else they might take with me00:28:02
if you are not under arrest then00:28:04
come back and manage the family00:28:06
if you are under charges00:28:10
then stay on the run and manage yourself00:28:12
well removed00:28:14
but it’s clear that this will never happen00:28:17
happened because I was arrested00:28:19
with him I get thrown a little in different directions00:28:23
in the story00:28:24
but I try to tell it so directly00:28:26
as much as I can while you are00:28:28
understandable and00:28:32
time is running00:28:35
more more time more more00:28:37
more things more incidents00:28:43
one day ours were recalled from us00:28:45
we should have had lawyers too00:28:46
other lawyer elf loved was00:28:49
he was assigned to this case00:28:51
represent us00:28:52
during this meeting with the FBI he said00:28:55
John you can't win this case00:28:59
you hear all these phrases in your ears, I admit00:29:02
that something was killing all these people00:29:04
something did all these things you're finished00:29:06
the only thing I can do00:29:08
it was either top lawyers or me00:29:12
I can try to get an agreement00:29:14
admission of guilt and00:29:16
john said00:29:18
No00:29:20
no I have a secret weapon00:29:24
it was loved looked at him secret00:29:27
weapons I heard wiretaps00:29:30
what's your secret weapon I want00:29:32
throw yourself and Frankie this varnish under00:29:34
bus that's the whole point and thus00:29:36
I win I can leave00:29:40
of either or left and he wasn't my friend00:29:45
I don't even know if he liked me or not but00:29:47
he never returned years later00:29:51
not so long ago00:29:52
of level dart two years somewhere00:29:56
did an interview with Jericho songs and told00:30:00
tell him about it00:30:01
this is so many years later and he00:30:05
I said in an interview that I didn’t come back because00:30:07
what when did he say it was me00:30:08
I didn't want to be a part of anything anymore00:30:10
this00:30:11
this came out a year ago00:30:15
so you guys who don't believe this go00:30:17
read the article by jerek interview inventory00:30:19
which he had with them loved and he did not00:30:22
he was my friend he didn't do anything00:30:24
walk favors one thing he told the truth00:30:29
so this brings me to the point where00:30:33
we come directly to the judicial00:30:35
meeting00:30:38
after 11 months we are already in custody00:30:42
hundreds of different incidents00:30:45
I could sit by for a week to tell you00:30:47
history00:30:50
but none the less00:30:53
John turns to me and says himself00:30:58
The wiretap recordings are terrible, they deceive you00:31:01
terrible light despite the fact that there00:31:03
previously00:31:08
I control all the lawyers00:31:13
So00:31:15
and what are you going to do00:31:18
lawyers present everything as follows00:31:20
light00:31:22
you have now listened to the recordings made00:31:25
state prosecutors00:31:27
listened to the recordings of poor John Gotti00:31:29
lost control of this animal00:31:32
I mean me00:31:36
he killed all these trade union people00:31:39
their partners00:31:42
Poor John Gotti is complaining00:31:45
It's not him00:31:48
this one is closer, that's me00:31:53
now it's up to the authorities00:31:57
that I'm a bad guy and they should00:32:00
it's my job to roll me up00:32:03
close your mouth00:32:05
try to make sure I don't00:32:07
caught and find yourself out of jail for00:32:09
freedom00:32:10
but my man my friend my brother00:32:14
boss00:32:15
shouldn't help them put me away00:32:22
I don't call in the rats and because he doesn't00:32:24
rat but this is the step of rats.00:32:29
I heard this I just can't [ __ ]00:32:32
Believe my ears I hear what he00:32:34
going to make his argument and00:32:37
John said00:32:41
are you sure you want to act00:32:44
exactly00:32:45
he said himself I am the boss of the underworld00:32:48
I need a boss I need to go free and00:32:52
you have a deadline to meet00:32:58
at00:33:00
I was heartbroken because00:33:02
I once loved this man I did00:33:05
everything for him is corrupt witnesses00:33:08
threatened people killed people I did everything00:33:10
for this guy I made him00:33:12
became the boss00:33:15
I helped him become the boss00:33:18
that's right to say00:33:21
that's what he's going to do now00:33:24
so this is what Cosa Nostra is we00:33:28
ready to kill each other we are ready00:33:30
betray each other00:33:32
we are even ready to help each other00:33:34
end up in jail00:33:36
so [ __ ] Cosa Nostra [ __ ] him00:33:39
I don't care now00:33:43
I intend to leave00:33:45
for this what I'm going to do to me00:33:48
I'll probably kill you, but I don't mind this one at all00:33:50
bad I'm going to contact two00:33:52
these agents Frank Madden you00:33:54
remember those twins who worked00:33:56
For me, I have been in contact with him for many years00:33:59
I said look I'm getting out of this00:34:03
I want to change sides I've had enough00:34:07
[music]00:34:10
they didn't seem any more shocked00:34:13
we had meetings with him00:34:16
they thought it was a trap I think00:34:19
jor gabriel said it best00:34:21
I could never in a million years00:34:24
imagine that they themselves will defect and00:34:26
will take our side, it’s just not him00:34:30
being a gangster wasn't a job for him00:34:32
it was power to life00:34:35
this guy is a gangster through and through00:34:39
he was arrested many, many times during his time00:34:43
received life sentences many, many times00:34:44
he was offered this00:34:46
context and he's never as far as I'm concerned00:34:48
by 12 we think this [ __ ] is here00:34:51
some kind of trap00:34:53
it's fake, I don't even believe it's00:34:55
can really happen00:34:58
so we came to an agreement in00:35:02
more hall00:35:05
the judge was there the prosecutor was there the agents00:35:08
were there and00:35:11
they wanted to pick me up right there on their00:35:14
under my wing and I said no00:35:16
it won't be like that00:35:18
what does this mean I don't want my wife00:35:22
and my children will find out through the newspapers that I00:35:24
went into cooperation with00:35:26
you guys I want to go on a date and00:35:30
I want to tell him about this I want him to00:35:32
they knew what I was going to do00:35:39
Sami has been with us too long if00:35:42
the words will come out that you communicated with us or00:35:44
that you are going to cooperate with me00:35:46
I won't kill you right there when you00:35:48
come back I got up and went to the door00:35:51
then I think our deal is wrong00:35:53
will happen00:35:55
but I do what I should do first00:35:58
Total00:35:59
I didn't allow it00:36:03
now that it was all completed00:36:08
I talked to my wife and whoever I need00:36:10
upon exit, the plan was set as follows00:36:14
they have this thing called00:36:16
the translation was here00:36:21
when a lot of people gather at the screed00:36:23
the Boer authorities were sitting there, a group of people00:36:25
our season and taken to prison00:36:28
but for a while00:36:31
to avoid overflow most if00:36:34
you stay in this state lake00:36:36
New York for a couple of weeks and then they00:36:37
transfer you back and that's what they00:36:39
did this to me, night came00:36:42
I'm chained to a group from the opera00:36:45
I had to go to the office00:36:47
chain on the stomach on the legs and00:36:51
the chain that was also on his stomach00:36:54
attached to my hands and00:36:56
we are going to the first floor00:36:59
before leaving publications with us00:37:03
stop00:37:05
I was in this group of 90 people00:37:09
the end of it00:37:10
the guards are catching me00:37:12
from everyone else gives them orders00:37:16
bosses and00:37:17
country door big steel door i00:37:20
I see two guys in suits near her00:37:22
these are agents they are waving at me to00:37:25
moved towards them00:37:27
never got me undercover00:37:30
as if I had left the hut00:37:35
they opened this steel door from the outside00:37:38
it was raining and they were setting up helicopters00:37:41
a million different agents New York00:37:43
police00:37:44
everyone everyone or ready who00:37:48
when I went outside there was00:37:50
the cat security officer was busy00:37:52
security wait00:37:55
black woman young girl women00:37:58
there was a sultan and she looked at me00:38:02
and she says obviously she understood that00:38:03
something big is happening here and she00:38:05
tells me about the side of the magnets themselves, it’s not you00:38:08
I looked at her, she broke mine00:38:11
heart it's me I think it's me00:38:14
other agents approached plus Mel who00:38:18
was the head of all 16 they worked for the family00:38:20
gambino00:38:22
takes me to the car, I get into the car00:38:25
with them00:38:26
all this barrage of cars and helicopters00:38:31
torrential rain00:38:33
it's all moving in queens almost new00:38:36
goals at the very border of the queens in front of him00:38:40
they filmed the entire model of each00:38:44
room in this hotel00:38:46
there were agents, cops, prosecutors there00:38:49
brings me to this place00:38:52
asked if I wanted coffee, would I like that?00:38:55
do I want it I said everything I want00:38:57
I want this cup of coffee to give me a little00:38:59
left alone00:39:02
this was literally one of the worst.00:39:05
nights my life00:39:06
with what I'm going to do00:39:09
morning came I woke up got off00:39:15
bb Russian guy came up to me and gave00:39:19
not a boyar FBI jacket of boredom and00:39:22
asked what it was00:39:25
a special person will be dressed with precision00:39:27
like you and00:39:29
he will be in the middle, you will be alone00:39:31
from the FBI who goes as security who00:39:33
surrounds and00:39:37
he said if someone shoots you00:39:39
in fact you will be him00:39:42
I'm not into me, I'm an FBI agent in this whole product00:39:47
I said ok I'm not going to do it00:39:50
I'm not an FBI agent00:39:53
and in general they are going to do it, show me00:39:56
although they point to one of these00:39:58
young guys my size all mine00:40:03
I said let me ask you a question00:40:06
are you married yes you have a child yes00:40:12
that is, with any sniper00:40:15
who wants to kill me shoots my lip00:40:18
you know you that's it yes00:40:21
why are you doing this it's my job I00:40:25
I would go back to his curator and say this00:40:29
his work i respect00:40:31
my job I'm a gangster00:40:34
if I live with this site I will die00:40:38
I cooperate I understand life my work00:40:41
continue to be a gangster and00:40:43
be on your side instead of the other00:40:46
sides00:40:47
but I won't dress like an agent00:40:50
no problem yourself00:40:55
they immediately told the guy why00:40:58
jacket and he fights like his colleagues00:40:59
guarding I will be in the middle of the guarded00:41:01
agent I knew that no one would do anything right away00:41:04
done00:41:06
we were going to the white minion00:41:12
the back doors opened00:41:14
I was in the army, it was 30 or 50 caliber00:41:18
machine gun screwed to the floor of the guy00:41:21
the person sitting there had his cap pulled back on00:41:23
head so if there was a problem00:41:25
machines appeared in people who00:41:27
would follow this mini you they could00:41:30
open the back doors and you'd get caught00:41:32
shelling of 30 50-caliber machine guns00:41:37
except helicopters other minimum00:41:40
SUVs it was an army and00:41:46
we headed to the airport00:41:49
I think we were on a service plane00:41:52
US Marshals maybe not sure00:41:55
FBI plane or someone else's and we flew on00:41:57
Quantic military base00:42:02
then we landed we00:42:06
let's go to this military base right in00:42:09
the center of the military base, FBI headquarters00:42:15
which is quantic00:42:19
it was 4 five-story building00:42:25
I went in there with them, it was mine00:42:27
check-in00:42:29
I met with the team a little later00:42:31
hostage rescue00:42:36
they practice and train other agents00:42:39
on this base00:42:43
these guys are hereby taking over00:42:46
each of them with pumped up muscles00:42:49
former military00:42:51
higher level00:42:54
what they were doing00:42:57
when I went up I went up00:43:00
a couple of floors maybe 3 maybe00:43:02
by 400:43:04
I entered this floor00:43:07
on one side there was a bedroom00:43:10
this is more than the apartment of the director of the FBI00:43:16
in the middle there was a huge conference00:43:19
hall00:43:21
with kitchen and00:43:23
the windows overlooked the parking lot00:43:27
[music]00:43:29
directly opposite the asphalt parking lot00:43:31
there was a small mountain on the road00:43:34
a small hill of sight and00:43:38
FBI agents came there and shot and00:43:45
practiced and00:43:48
I often think when the director was there00:43:50
stood and looked at these windows, looking then00:43:53
how agents train, shoot, etc.00:43:58
[music]00:43:59
so he entered his room00:44:03
directly through the apartments which are larger00:44:05
there was another room in the middle00:44:08
here the spirit of his guards there were two00:44:11
beds and00:44:13
two FBI agents were sitting there00:44:18
obviously he wasn't there at that moment00:44:21
so there were these two agents in this room00:44:24
from the group by the Gambino family00:44:26
they were attached to this case and they00:44:28
were in this room00:44:32
this is how I was supposed to live00:44:42
[music]00:44:56
the next day was completely different from00:44:58
we didn't go out for the bike channel00:45:01
so I can practice00:45:04
but they didn't want to take me00:45:06
directly to their gym then where00:45:07
they trained these FBI agents all these00:45:10
new guys they didn't want to see me00:45:14
so I rode a bike and then I00:45:18
were taken out with agents on the track who00:45:20
used by the military and where the FBI00:45:22
trained00:45:26
we left early in the morning before dawn00:45:31
there was lazy with me two or three00:45:33
agent00:45:34
minivan with crowded headlights I ran after it00:45:38
tumi agents and00:45:40
two or three more off-road vehicles were following us00:45:43
agents00:45:45
from time to time when we were running00:45:48
we trained along these paths00:45:50
met by a company of soldiers carrying military00:45:52
service and want and00:45:56
they let us through so we could00:45:58
move on they didn't know who we were00:46:00
were I knew that they were military00:46:04
[music]00:46:22
I lived with agents for six months00:46:27
we did this every morning I worked out00:46:30
physically repressed his irritation00:46:32
disorders kept in shape00:46:38
there were so many different meetings that it was00:46:40
madness00:46:43
at the beginning when it all just started00:46:46
I was a clothes hanger00:46:49
who was in the apartment00:46:51
directors and00:46:55
we somehow came back jogging and00:47:00
when I entered the room all my clothes00:47:02
ended up on the bed and all the hangers00:47:05
someone took it00:47:07
then someone from the agent contacted the team00:47:09
security and asked what was going on00:47:13
I was in the kitchen cooking00:47:16
there were, as far as I remember, Franco Copper00:47:22
I had a butcher knife, I cut the meat for00:47:26
cutlets00:47:27
collected it and put it through a meat grinder00:47:33
I worked with meat when there was security00:47:36
special forces came00:47:38
copper market asked why all the clothes are on00:47:40
where are the hangers on the beds?00:47:43
one security person said00:47:47
he can use hangers as weapons00:47:50
so we took them away00:47:53
I chuckled to myself and said00:47:57
I believe that this is not a weapon so I00:48:00
I can only carry meat through this and I00:48:03
holding a meat grinder in my hands00:48:04
prank midi laughed and said00:48:09
listened we will contact you00:48:10
bosses bring these hangers00:48:12
back00:48:14
don't worry that he can00:48:16
use it as a weapon we have it00:48:18
side00:48:22
so that was one thing00:48:25
then I was often there decent00:48:27
number of agents and00:48:30
they say you used to box00:48:33
I'm in the ring00:48:34
said yes00:48:36
they say we have enough agent00:48:39
in which I like to box I would like to once00:48:41
nail with them00:48:42
yeah okay where00:48:45
right in the conference room00:48:49
Yes OK00:48:51
so they brought gloves they brought00:48:54
there we moved everything we needed and00:48:56
moved away everything that was in the way and00:48:59
the rule was00:49:01
that it was just for recreation00:49:04
that is, we could beat each other and beat00:49:07
each other strongly00:49:08
but if it causes pain to the partner if00:49:11
I give him freedom I don't do the next one00:49:13
blow and vice versa and they didn't want agents00:49:16
so that we kill each other in the face00:49:18
mainly there should have been only00:49:20
body blows00:49:22
that's how we started00:49:25
this guy's name was jimmy i don't remember00:49:27
last name Jimmy was about a meter tall00:49:29
eighty00:49:33
I was much shorter than him00:49:36
a young guy who just came from00:49:38
armies and00:49:40
he was a member of the Gambino family and he00:49:43
was going to become part of the team00:49:44
hostage rescue00:49:47
he was going to become one of them00:49:52
so we closed the hall in fact gloves and00:49:56
we started boxing00:49:59
before some blow00:50:01
I'm much lower in sound than him, I ducked down00:50:04
to give him a blow from below00:50:07
he also bent down and I turned out and my00:50:10
the head hit him in the face00:50:13
this blood started coming out of his nose and00:50:16
we were just hitting each other00:50:19
all over this place suddenly and unexpectedly00:50:21
the doors to the conference room are sharp00:50:22
swings open and 34 tales are called out00:50:24
Hostage rescue teams are running around00:50:26
and are moving towards us00:50:28
Jimmy and stopped in the house turned00:50:31
and said00:50:33
no no no everything will be fine let's walk around00:50:37
just some confusion about the documents everything is cool00:50:40
And00:50:42
They left00:50:46
some blood got on the wall but00:50:49
I had to wash it later and put it on00:50:51
furniture back and that's where the jokes started00:50:54
saving guys00:50:55
some were assigned there one was00:50:58
small my size00:51:02
I hit him and dropped him on the floor and00:51:06
when he fell I sat on top of him and00:51:09
made a movement as if I wanted to hit00:51:10
again I was of course just kidding00:51:12
him00:51:14
I hit him in the eye and it formed00:51:16
black eye they called it loops like clubhouse00:51:20
there will be a dog with a black eye and00:51:22
they called buy but when he fell I00:51:26
I just decided to poke fun at epam as if00:51:27
collect after all, he said wait00:51:30
wait and fbi agent I said no no this00:51:33
don't count anymore but I'm an FBI agent too00:51:36
now it doesn't count that way anymore and we00:51:39
both put to reap but it became a joke among00:51:42
groups that were there00:51:45
then they bring this Indian who00:51:48
he was with the capture group00:51:50
boxed as an amateur00:51:53
but he was a professional athlete00:51:55
some time and00:51:56
they wanted him to box00:51:59
me00:52:00
I think they wanted this guy00:52:02
came and kicked my ass00:52:04
deck street [ __ ] change a little00:52:07
So00:52:10
I didn't really want this to happen00:52:13
so I said listen I'll do it00:52:17
with him00:52:19
we don't have gloves00:52:22
no gloves00:52:24
knives bits whatever you want00:52:27
to be honest00:52:29
because this guy is practically00:52:31
professional boxer but never00:52:34
appeared boxing himself not they lied about00:52:36
that he came to fight and beat me00:52:38
saw this in one or two interviews but00:52:40
it never happened, it's pure water00:52:41
artifice00:52:42
so I played chess with them here00:52:46
conversations took place00:52:47
again and again different crimes00:52:50
which I have committed which other people00:52:52
did what the mafia did, the trade unions did everything00:52:55
this is different [ __ ]00:52:58
so they came to these meetings00:53:00
many times I think it was the main one00:53:03
over the capture group there00:53:06
I don't know what rank he was but it was00:53:09
a guy high in the hierarchy, he came and00:53:11
said00:53:12
I want to ask you a few questions I00:53:15
said ok what he said00:53:20
if the helicopter is organized by the mafia00:53:23
will fly up to this small hill00:53:28
what do you think they would do next?00:53:30
and for them to do00:53:32
I say you're talking about the mafia00:53:35
yes I said bro sometimes we sit in the car00:53:39
5 6 guys are all shooting at everyone00:53:42
the guys will shoot you00:53:44
the rest all leave alive you think00:53:47
they can fly here by helicopter00:53:49
military base to naval military base00:53:52
FBI building and attack this building to00:53:57
get me out I'm talking about this is crazy00:54:00
someone probably paid you to00:54:02
came here and asked this question and this one00:54:05
the guy perhaps a little and he said00:54:07
ok I understand you I understand u00:54:09
we had many similar meetings00:54:12
we have a meeting planned with my wife and00:54:15
my children the sky is beyond quantic she must00:54:19
was to go to the hotel00:54:21
Washington00:54:24
hidden secret meeting00:54:27
my hair has grown and00:54:30
agents wanted to sue me for the hairdresser00:54:32
and or sex00:54:34
to cut your hair00:54:36
women go there men go there00:54:40
so I went there with five agents00:54:45
I go in with him and they reserve and00:54:52
five of them are sitting00:54:55
I'm approaching this woman00:54:58
girl00:55:00
pretty woman short dress00:55:04
medium size heels of this type00:55:09
hairdressers don't usually dress like that00:55:12
it looked really good and she says00:55:15
with me00:55:17
she says he's familiar with our area00:55:20
I said no at all, no just me00:55:23
brought and I have no knowledge about00:55:25
this area is absolutely00:55:31
she says I guess very00:55:33
high level00:55:36
for some reason you think so she said but00:55:40
we had fb calls here and all that00:55:44
there are five people sitting behind yours00:55:46
security00:55:48
I'll look at them, everyone shakes their head00:55:51
no shut your mouth00:55:55
but I never slam mine I said00:55:59
yes this is my team and I am high level and00:56:06
I would like to go out somewhere but00:56:08
I really don't know where to go and all this00:56:12
she's talking about some restaurant00:56:16
I said no I've never heard of him00:56:19
she says do you want to have dinner with me00:56:22
And00:56:23
they already look like dynamic dolls00:56:26
shake their heads everyone shakes00:56:28
stop with your head stop it I say00:56:31
ok I'm happy we can go00:56:33
let's go for dinner00:56:36
I just have a couple of problems00:56:38
what's happened00:56:41
let's imagine that we like each other00:56:43
and we'll be lucky00:56:45
do you mind if they watch she00:56:48
said what the [ __ ] are you talking about00:56:51
if we're lucky we'll go to their room00:56:54
will have to come with us00:56:57
Anna laughed, I thought it was funny00:57:01
but the agent looks at me in rage00:57:05
I finished it and said maybe00:57:08
haunting trips here I left you yourself00:57:12
why can't you do this bro?00:57:14
all the news your face is everywhere00:57:17
you can do this00:57:19
what do you want me to say she wanted00:57:22
have dinner with me where are you guys00:57:24
were going to go stand and wait for00:57:26
parking lot what are you going to do00:57:28
in general, I was having fun with these guys00:57:30
every chance I got I was there00:57:33
I think it's been almost 6 months00:57:36
every time there were trials and negotiations00:57:39
they picked me up from the base and took me to00:57:41
plane and helicopter and00:57:43
landed at other military bases nearby00:57:46
from where he lived00:57:48
overall this is madness00:57:51
this movement lasted about six00:57:54
months00:57:56
I was once summoned to court, I think I00:57:59
I told this story a long time ago and00:58:00
it was st patrick's day00:58:03
we were on a military base and00:58:07
the guys here for the holiday decided to buy there00:58:09
hamburgers beer that's what they were on00:58:12
ground floor00:58:13
the entire perimeter was under wire surveillance00:58:16
protection everything00:58:19
I slept on the second floor00:58:22
so they come back with hamburgers they00:58:25
everyone was in a good mood00:58:27
young guys all in the mood00:58:31
I still get up and get ready to go up00:58:34
stairs00:58:35
what happened to us, we are different here00:58:38
hamburgers and the like no no I00:58:40
I want to go to the toilet and 90 and it’s there00:58:44
toilet00:58:45
Fine00:58:47
instead of going upstairs I blew them out00:58:49
bedroom when I entered00:58:52
on this little coffee table nearby00:58:55
there is a pistol with the bed00:58:59
I see a gun00:59:08
and I see a gun00:59:11
I think they decided to make this trap00:59:15
I'll give you an empty gun if I00:59:17
I'll take this one, they'll deliver it00:59:19
no matter what, they play in their own way, I don’t00:59:23
I know they played it but it puts me on00:59:25
tests00:59:27
So00:59:29
I go up to the table and they lift it up and the carpenter00:59:34
of course I know something about00:59:36
pistols this pistol is not empty this00:59:39
the thing is charged but it's full by weight00:59:42
I understand, I immediately press the clip with00:59:44
She comes out with cartridges and pushes her back00:59:48
this gun is loaded00:59:51
as soon as you get up the clip00:59:54
a guy appears in the doorway00:59:57
I stand and turn to him and to the table00:59:59
right in my hand01:00:02
his eyes got so big01:00:06
told me about this good thing01:00:09
Yes01:00:11
you should put it on the table yes yes I will01:00:15
I'll put one really cool01:00:18
conveniently, I’ll see how you look at the trigger01:00:20
I put I go who row what to graze01:00:27
I'm leaving these four five agents01:00:29
laughing hysterically and01:00:32
they say you scared the [ __ ]01:00:37
it became a joke of strength they then have01:00:40
Carolina01:00:41
you told him to go there and left him01:00:44
the gun is right there on the table01:00:46
so it was another puncture and a joke01:00:49
so much happened there01:00:51
incredible another time we went to the gym01:00:53
And01:00:55
iron material all these guys were01:00:58
animals bro you can deal with01:01:00
they just don't know, it seems to me01:01:03
swing every 15 minutes01:01:06
so we went there01:01:08
training is over I want against01:01:11
steam room01:01:12
sweat a little there and then take a shower01:01:16
and then we come back and one of the guys01:01:19
comes up and says we have to go in there01:01:21
with you01:01:22
why why bruce01:01:26
I can't escape from there, he just01:01:28
one front door I couldn't go anywhere01:01:30
there is no more existence left for you here01:01:32
you don't need to come with me01:01:33
do it well we go to the steam room01:01:38
you take a quick shower before01:01:40
come in and01:01:41
we are all naked we have a towel around the container01:01:47
so I come in and sit down01:01:49
the guy who sits next to me and01:01:53
a couple of them are sitting upstairs01:01:58
so I open the towels and I sit there01:02:02
said what's your name and he says no01:02:05
yours no no no then and full of yours01:02:08
last name too01:02:10
why do you need me?01:02:12
I just want to know because when is everything01:02:14
this will end I'll sit down to write a book I01:02:16
I want to tell you guys about you01:02:19
you're the main guy I use the name in01:02:21
book and write how tough you are01:02:25
how dare you train what muscles01:02:28
you earn all this crap and01:02:32
I want to tell you the truth I01:02:35
spied the standards01:02:38
muscles and everything yes but you have a dick 501:02:40
centimeters01:02:42
if you push my book and say01:02:45
something like that but we'll kill you, I'll kill you personally01:02:47
the rest of the agents are laughing at you01:02:50
so I was the one who made fun of them all01:02:52
time but they got used to it01:02:54
time I guess sometimes it was in01:02:56
topic for me it was in their reading for01:02:58
me01:02:59
play chess box play01:03:02
any [ __ ] I want01:03:05
I became quite friends and got along with them01:03:09
when I left after gothe01:03:12
was closed01:03:15
I was about to leave and they kept asking01:03:18
do me, that is, don’t take these selfies01:03:20
autographs and for me to sign everywhere01:03:22
they wanted me to sign the newspaper where01:03:25
was and so on and did it all for01:03:29
them I left01:03:31
near the district01:03:33
when I checked out they moved me to a room01:03:36
dragging01:03:38
this was where joe dragged this01:03:41
a very famous guy who became01:03:42
cooperate they placed him in a special01:03:45
prison in the house01:03:47
I was transferred there01:03:53
when I walked in there was a big one01:03:55
metal door and instead of01:03:58
I was sent to visit the prison when01:03:59
metal door to which there was01:04:01
a long staircase that went to01:04:03
when you get up there01:04:06
there was a place where the guard sits01:04:09
there were three chambers deep in the shower corridor01:04:12
there was something like a dressing room where01:04:15
you could hang your clothes and keep it that way01:04:18
about Malachi for as long as he lived with01:04:20
since he started collaborating01:04:32
boy01:04:34
hi guys I'm01:04:37
told you the story of the Atlantic01:04:41
the question is what else happened, enough if01:04:45
another story01:04:47
it really is so but for the story I01:04:50
I was there month month and month I will share01:04:54
today another story with you01:04:57
I played with these agents all the time01:05:00
chatted with them01:05:03
viral with them01:05:05
that's just the way a person is01:05:10
on the same day two agents are twins by the way01:05:13
tell frankie and copper01:05:17
they told me themselves01:05:19
here a woman rides should he she very01:05:22
very influential person with powerful01:05:24
connections01:05:27
I don't play with toys with her, I talk directly to her01:05:30
her01:05:34
ok ok bro I'm01:05:37
I'll be fine with her01:05:40
so they're all ready they're at the table I'm at01:05:44
one of the table doesn't get up when opening the door01:05:47
and she comes in01:05:49
she comes up, extends her hand and says01:05:52
his01:05:54
my name I forgot what her name is01:05:57
she says I'm white Protestant01:06:02
Anglo-Saxon roots and01:06:05
I shake my hand01:06:09
I've never heard of anyone01:06:11
imagined myself like this01:06:13
this sounds kind of weird to me01:06:16
I back slightly on the copper francs and they are already01:06:20
shake your head don't do that don't01:06:22
do01:06:24
they already know me and01:06:28
this is how we say I want to behave01:06:31
accordingly01:06:32
she is without a doubt a heavyweight and01:06:35
I have to really watch01:06:38
in words we talk about the mafia different things01:06:42
in the industry what is connected with this about01:06:45
my family as I grew up and further down the list01:06:48
us and gives me all these questions01:06:52
I answer and in a polite, sweet way we01:06:56
settled on the garbage business and01:06:58
she wants me to explain how it is01:07:00
works01:07:04
I'm doing it01:07:07
there's already a long conversation going on here01:07:10
we controlled the union we01:07:13
controlled associations associated with01:07:15
garbage01:07:18
the association sells certain01:07:19
territory and01:07:22
people collecting garbage go to01:07:24
specific territory and take yours01:07:26
garbage and01:07:28
each association01:07:31
just like a trade union we can01:07:33
use this power at the same time01:07:35
can collect garbage at certain01:07:37
territory is your territory you bought01:07:40
we gave you money for this territory01:07:42
no one can enter there01:07:44
so the residents of the districts are left alone01:07:47
with you01:07:49
we naturally usually tell our01:07:51
others so that they are not delayed01:07:53
collect garbage don't go crazy there01:07:55
raise prices too high01:07:57
our prices were higher01:08:00
but we didn't want it too much01:08:03
it worked01:08:06
so they sit there she looks at me and01:08:11
raise your head high here01:08:14
like I was climbing on a horse or something01:08:17
that and she says it's amazing01:08:24
I said oh yeah I think it's so amazing01:08:29
what is truly amazing about you01:08:32
8th grade education01:08:36
yes yes yes I never came 9th grade I01:08:41
never tried high school01:08:44
it's amazing01:08:49
a man with such a small brain01:08:53
a man with a small mind like you01:08:57
might be thinking about such and such a member from chemists01:09:03
a person of small mind like me and01:09:10
they think it was very polite01:09:13
I think it's time to pick my butterfly01:09:17
I look at Frank and Copper for the first time01:09:19
look and twirl like wind-up dolls01:09:21
no no no no what's the matter01:09:24
I say you know01:09:27
they actually came up with this and01:09:32
it's not that difficult01:09:35
can I explain about the fact please01:09:39
I say if you look at history and01:09:43
think about your forefathers who01:09:46
came to this country and robbed01:09:48
Indians you bought Manhattan for beads from01:09:51
$28 worth of beads per bead01:09:54
krize manhattan01:09:56
so what did they do01:10:00
we do the same thing a little01:10:02
differently01:10:04
we are not who you are, sorry how are you01:10:07
white Protestants introduced themselves and01:10:11
By the way, you really suck and01:10:13
on white I noticed it as soon as you01:10:16
entered01:10:17
I don't think it's a black woman or01:10:20
Spanish or Asian or something01:10:23
I see that you are a white woman01:10:27
some kind of health was exposed and reported01:10:30
what color are you01:10:33
what nationality what religion01:10:37
really cool I learned a lot today01:10:41
it's such a pleasure to talk to you she01:10:44
got up from01:10:48
such a really unhappy face otherwise01:10:50
words are a mess01:10:53
he just grabbed my head and shook it01:10:56
head01:10:58
we ourselves said she is a heavyweight01:11:03
I missed this part when I was talking to01:11:06
her ass is really big, me too01:11:08
I think she's heavy-handed, I'll say about01:11:11
when she returns I will say that01:11:13
I'm sorry, I didn't notice that I should evict them01:11:15
so crazy in the chair when your ass01:11:17
so huge I didn’t understand what you were01:11:19
heavyweight they told me to01:11:21
heavyweight they will have problems for what01:11:23
they didn't even bring it to my attention01:11:25
dare you [ __ ] I said I won't I won't01:11:27
I will do this but she will never01:11:30
came back to us and did not sit at this table01:11:32
everything passed by she threw it to me01:11:35
nice to talk to you good bye01:11:38
good bye too01:11:40
she left me01:11:42
there's really nothing more to listening to01:11:45
after that it was like that all the time01:11:48
from time to time one of the agents began01:11:50
make fun of me and approach me01:11:52
said01:11:54
I'm a white guy01:11:56
or pit Saxon in general other Agnets01:11:59
they started making fun of it, it’s obvious that01:12:01
this is what we talked about on01:12:03
I will accept beads and01:12:06
that's basically how it ended01:12:11
but I always made fun of them01:12:13
came up with something from appeared01:12:17
you know one day it brings me to01:12:20
another story very short story01:12:23
I was in the room01:12:26
then there was only two free time01:12:28
the guard usually kept an eye on me but01:12:30
then the entire special forces team found itself with01:12:32
me01:12:34
they were there because they were showing01:12:36
American football GTU where everyone wanted01:12:38
watch this event it was play01:12:41
all I don't think it was a superball I01:12:43
I think it was the playoffs and all these agents01:12:45
in Washington they were drawn to flowers01:12:47
Trotsky01:12:49
they loved the washington redkings it was01:12:52
from the team and they played in this swim01:12:55
they left my door wide open01:12:57
across the corridor is another room01:13:00
the door was also wide open and there01:13:03
there were five or six people in this group sitting01:13:04
I don't watch special forces either01:13:11
I was watching TV and I was getting ready01:13:13
watch the game too01:13:16
two agents had to give me a cup of coffee01:13:19
watch them they went to play01:13:21
basketball01:13:22
I was thus left alone it was01:13:26
cool me01:13:27
in the FBI building, well, how long are there still guards?01:13:30
you need01:13:34
so one guy comes in alone01:13:36
special forces and01:13:38
speaks in kei we can see for ourselves01:13:41
here's the game I'll sit on the couch here zog'a01:13:43
and I was sitting on a chair01:13:47
I told you there is no need to sit01:13:49
here you can go to your room01:13:51
Are my friends there to watch the game? I’ll sit01:13:54
I'll take a look here too, everything will be cool01:13:56
I'm fine I'm fine I can be01:13:59
one is not from I should stay here01:14:05
no you don't need it01:14:09
and you can go to another room and01:14:12
you can see me from there from the other01:14:13
rooms I see them you can see me01:14:16
you can't tell me what to do01:14:21
damage I didn't mean what I say that01:14:23
you do I'm just saying that you01:14:25
you can enjoy the game01:14:26
sitting with my friends I'm not sitting here not01:14:28
mind nothing nothing why did you decide that01:14:30
talk to me01:14:32
but I have to stay here ok I got it01:14:36
I shot the bullet01:14:37
I had a snack on the channel about freedom01:14:42
I want to watch the weather ok01:14:45
I'm checking the weather01:14:48
where the guys in that room are yelling something01:14:50
made that is, downs the first pass or01:14:52
there was something there, everyone was screaming, I looked01:14:55
weather this guy looks at the weather through01:14:58
for a while I turned and01:15:01
I hear their screams and I turn around01:15:04
it was incredibly raining01:15:07
Obama he01:15:09
probably wanted to shoot me01:15:11
it's raining in colabs where people are shouting something01:15:14
cool, he's walking, he's sitting, he's watching the weather01:15:18
I looked at the weather, everyone understood UAH, I never01:15:22
didn't change the channel01:15:26
I watch different things like the weather01:15:29
conditions this weather channel explained how01:15:31
what works in this area I answer that01:15:33
I can become a meteorologist when I leave01:15:35
prison this is so much I learned watching this01:15:37
strange channel for a couple of hours I01:15:40
wow bruce told him01:15:44
listen I never knew so much01:15:47
chases and all this so what is real now01:15:50
don't you think he didn't say a word01:15:54
even wanted to talk to me01:15:57
that was the end of the situation they then01:16:01
Just kidding, I'll write it too01:16:03
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you agency which of you is still alive01:16:13
listen and remember the historian is worth01:16:18
bada area so far01:16:38
i called cooper i wanted to talk to01:16:41
I told him01:16:43
I'm 20 years old in my business01:16:46
I thought that's it, what did I do?01:16:47
I'll probably get a 20 year sentence01:16:51
so I said how long will I stay01:16:55
Here01:16:56
there are no prisoners here so much I am this01:16:59
security guard01:17:01
how long do I stay here?01:17:04
you will have all the goodies, everything will be fine01:17:07
Fine01:17:08
no it won't be good I'm not going to01:17:11
sit here by yourself as this guard01:17:14
the security guard thought I was a celebrity and he01:17:16
asked who and what01:17:19
he didn't even know who I was, I told him01:17:22
I'm Jeffrey Dahmer and he almost01:17:24
this guy had a heart attack01:17:26
I don't want to be here with this security guard01:17:29
I want to be in a regular prison with others01:17:31
people don't care about this department for01:17:32
witnesses I would like with other people I01:17:35
I'm not going to stay here for 25 years01:17:38
I'm not going to do this I don't care what01:17:40
I'm dragging my feet I'm not doing this01:17:43
[music]01:18:01
last conversation I had with John01:18:03
gotti01:18:07
a couple of weeks later they took me out01:18:11
there was a witness office in phoenix01:18:13
Arizona01:18:18
so this is where I had to go01:18:21
and track your due date01:18:23
my wife go in fact moved there to01:18:26
Arizona01:18:29
that's how this whole thing started01:18:31
Arizona so they can come to01:18:33
dates met me and01:18:36
it was about 35 40 minutes drive it was01:18:39
in the middle of the desert it's a prison and01:18:47
this is how my prison life began01:18:51
FBI more always as before01:18:53
contact me agents and more01:18:57
prosecutors01:19:01
I had to meet with the producer01:19:04
from channel and bessie01:19:10
it was a long time ago01:19:12
I don't really want to tell you it01:19:15
name because she's still there she's01:19:18
heavyweight you bi si01:19:21
was able to talk to her01:19:24
they allowed it they allowed me01:19:27
talk to peter moss01:19:28
because when I was released I wanted01:19:31
write a book with Peter the person that I am01:19:33
made the book under boss peter bridge became01:19:36
my good friend he died many years01:19:39
back I01:19:41
wrote this book with him in 1996 and01:19:47
I had meetings with some of them01:19:51
I got through this in the end01:19:53
do an interview with yes I'm on soya01:19:55
later they wanted me to do01:19:58
interview with them and they were very kind01:20:00
they are good people to me so I will later01:20:03
did an interview with her01:20:05
I wrote a book with Peter, a lot of these two01:20:09
things you were going on almost simultaneously01:20:15
but that was after they didn’t give the deadline01:20:20
when the time came for the verdict they01:20:22
wanted me to enter the protection program01:20:24
witnesses I didn't want to leave I01:20:27
I wanted to be left alone01:20:30
I went to the sentencing01:20:34
the authorities believed that I got a big one01:20:36
I also thought about the deadline01:20:42
when I went to the sentencing01:20:44
the judge said something like 60 is all that01:20:48
I heard 60 I said I got the maximum01:20:53
2001:20:55
how the mind didn't just give 60 years no themselves01:20:59
listen carefully he gave you 6001:21:00
months01:21:02
which is five years and they tell me01:21:05
they said so that I could understand them01:21:07
20 but since I knew a lot I could01:21:09
come back if they gave me 20 they would01:21:12
They reduced my term after01:21:15
so even when they gave me 6001:21:17
months I left the courtroom and I said01:21:20
prosecutor [music]01:21:22
you said that you were taking me back for01:21:24
reducing the deadline to01:21:28
well, I'll be back to reduce he said01:21:32
you yourself then have 60 [ __ ] months01:21:34
we're not going to do anything else for you01:21:36
do bro you've been enrolled for 7 months already01:21:38
as if you were sitting01:21:43
so I returned to Phoenix and I stayed there until01:21:45
end of his term01:21:49
at some point they came and took away01:21:52
they wanted me to come in to talk to me01:21:54
witness protection program and01:21:56
I say no all the time then they ask01:22:00
so that prosecutors are different people to me01:22:02
They called yourself, come on bro, you'll set me up01:22:05
government they will look like01:22:07
ass they gave you 5 years for 19 murders01:22:11
we give something in return01:22:16
I thought they were right and gave it away01:22:19
im another year of my life by entering01:22:21
witness protection program01:22:24
but for one year that’s all and then I leave01:22:29
I had money, I didn't want to be in this01:22:31
program they changed my name to01:22:34
irish name jimmy marine i wanted01:22:37
back to my own name01:22:40
but I gave them from and I asked from them01:22:43
certain concessions01:22:45
I wanted to go on vacation, I was in prison01:22:48
for almost five years I wanted to go on vacation with01:22:51
my wife01:22:53
I wanted to meet Diane Sawyer and01:22:55
wood people01:22:57
I wanted to meet Peter Massa01:23:00
so there were a number of things that I wanted and they01:23:03
agreed to these things01:23:05
And01:23:06
this is what I did I entered the program01:23:09
on witness protection and01:23:14
after eight months I met a woman01:23:18
which turned out to recognize my and knew who I was01:23:21
was01:23:23
young girl quite much younger01:23:26
me01:23:28
The FBI wanted to start this whole program01:23:30
again I said no no no I said year01:23:33
It's been eight months but this girl01:23:35
they know this here I don’t care what she01:23:37
knows this and that, it doesn't bother me01:23:39
I don't start the program again01:23:43
then you should be their deal okay01:23:46
give me the papers, I'll sign the contract, I won't01:23:48
I want to be in this program01:23:50
guaranteed you a year you got eight01:23:52
months I'll do another four months01:23:54
but I won't start all over again and01:23:59
they allowed me to unsubscribe from the program I01:24:02
went to phoenix with my family01:24:05
that's a whole different story01:24:11
but this is what happened and this is how it is01:24:14
it started how it went01:24:21
when I first testified and left01:24:26
there were so many thoughts in my head01:24:30
I knew that John would send a team of killers01:24:32
follow me and01:24:41
I knew my life01:24:44
was finished01:24:48
sooner or later I realized that more than01:24:51
I'll probably be killed01:24:56
my life was over but01:25:01
I needed to figure out a way to01:25:04
start it again01:25:06
differently01:25:13
I wanted my family to be01:25:15
security I thought about it more than01:25:17
my thoughts were at my safety01:25:19
more about them01:25:25
when I left the mafia I understood this life01:25:27
the same as everyone else or better than01:25:29
Most people01:25:34
I had to protect myself at all costs01:25:46
but I understood that this was driving my family01:25:48
completely different way of life01:25:56
it hit every part of my family01:25:59
in a strange way and01:26:02
Cosa Nostra01:26:04
we can't stand the blame for 7 and they will01:26:08
blame me they will return to01:26:10
kill me I had a lot of good ones01:26:13
people who stayed01:26:15
who always looked after me01:26:17
family and01:26:21
these franks of copper01:26:24
they always passed or drove by01:26:27
my home my personal time is not even in01:26:30
working hours like FBI sheep01:26:32
my daughter saw one of them once01:26:34
and showed him the fact01:26:36
she told me they are watching us too01:26:40
I said that's not why they're watching you01:26:43
that you are a criminal01:26:45
they protect you01:26:49
they want something to happen to you01:26:55
my daughter understood that this is also my wife01:27:03
so my concern became not so much01:27:05
about family01:27:08
how much for myself01:27:10
I must live as I am supposed to live01:27:14
I didn't want to live somewhere in Montana01:27:18
doctors on the farm with closed bets01:27:22
it's just not me01:27:26
intended to live my life like me01:27:28
always lived01:27:30
how I've always lived01:27:32
if and when my time comes I was01:27:35
ready to fight and survive01:27:38
either I die or they die01:27:42
that was my thought01:27:46
I deserved to die to some extent01:27:48
because I became an informant, that's one thing01:27:51
from the golden rules01:27:53
but I wasn't going to leave easily01:27:56
that was my thought and01:27:59
my thought is I won't go away easily01:28:03
was based on many different reasons I01:28:07
I was betraying John and01:28:11
everything about this system and what happened01:28:15
so I wasn't going to leave easily01:28:19
I left the mafia and as I said01:28:23
it was one of the toughest things01:28:25
which I have done in life now for01:28:27
the next hardest thing is that I01:28:29
I'm going to fight the whole [ __ ] mafia01:28:31
whoever comes looking for me01:28:34
whoever it is it won't be for you01:28:36
easy road01:28:39
I was shot before I was stabbed01:28:43
I know all the moves and exits and01:28:47
organized the murder and the keller01:28:52
it won't be an easy road for you01:28:57
so it was already deep inside me01:29:00
It's not that I want to kill someone01:29:03
do something like this again01:29:05
but if you come I will be ready for you01:29:09
you know when I was quantic and when I01:29:12
testified01:29:13
I read newspapers and agents brought in01:29:16
newspapers they don’t limit me in anything01:29:21
so I read the newspapers and you know more than once01:29:24
I told agents I get up in the morning I eat breakfast01:29:27
I read an article in the newspaper about what I01:29:28
spoke in court yesterday01:29:30
So I go up to the agent and say read it01:29:33
this is this part01:29:35
the guy is looking and reading what is needed01:29:39
I said this yesterday when I gave evidence01:29:42
this is what is written in this newspaper01:29:45
said no yourself01:29:47
newspapers write what they want, won't say01:29:51
the truth is you need to have thick skin01:29:53
take bro01:29:55
they will talk a lot of crap no01:29:57
having connections on the right there is nothing to01:29:59
you could do about it you should have01:30:01
thick skin01:30:02
I said ok01:30:04
I don't know maybe I'm crazy I don't remember01:30:07
I said this at the court hearing I didn't01:30:09
I remember doing this I read all these01:30:11
things01:30:12
do you want us to stop wearing a01:30:15
newspapers no no I want newspapers I want01:30:18
read them I want to listen to what is happening01:30:22
sometimes I'm right under their noses01:30:25
received some information from01:30:27
underworld01:30:30
they said to the guy who gotye vinyl01:30:33
me01:30:34
I will never give out their names, who they are or01:30:38
where did I get these messages from?01:30:40
most of them are already dead and this is not01:30:42
would matter but it's really no one01:30:44
does not concern except no I will never give it away01:30:46
who they were and01:30:48
good thoughts that I have but01:30:51
many guys who collaborated after01:30:53
me with whom I am from time to time01:30:54
encountered in terms01:30:56
I ask what this guy said that01:30:59
that guy feels01:31:00
I like this piece of crap about him01:31:04
they said this guy is screwing you01:31:06
[ __ ] left and right but not this guy01:31:08
not that guy or that one like I said I didn't01:31:11
I will issue amine01:31:13
I don't want to create a problem for anyone01:31:15
or influence their reputation that they have01:31:18
there were some contacts with me01:31:20
I loved some of these people I didn't01:31:24
back loved and respected me01:31:27
so I had the spinner's information but I didn't01:31:30
I will tell you who they are and what they are01:31:32
were they men were they women01:31:35
I know one thing01:31:38
they tried to win over01:31:41
a whole range of different women when I was preparing01:31:43
testify against john so they01:31:45
spoke against me01:31:48
they got involved in this topic01:31:53
one girl who worked night01:31:55
club very nice beautiful girl01:31:57
And01:31:58
her husband was a complete drug addict and semi homeless01:32:02
she had several children only01:32:05
the place where she could work is in01:32:06
my nightclub will begin01:32:08
Late night01:32:10
when I got there then I didn't go01:32:13
there because I was already on a high01:32:15
level, but one evening they wanted01:32:16
I arrived I went there I saw her I01:32:20
asked who it is01:32:22
they told me tons of this they told me01:32:25
everyone who has what she has01:32:27
I felt some sympathy for her01:32:32
It's not a huge amount, but01:32:34
time it was quite the amount I01:32:36
pulled out 500 dollars and put it in the bank account01:32:39
I said when I leave, give me the envelope too01:32:41
I'm as good as you01:32:43
don't tell her it's me first second01:32:47
don't keep the hall served here01:32:50
move the bar or forward she's beautiful01:32:52
girl move her to the front01:32:54
he will have a better position01:32:55
tip and life will be better01:32:58
they talked to her01:33:01
as he said, he gave and gave her 500 bucks01:33:05
will do a good job I think he01:33:07
[ __ ] and I never [ __ ] with her I01:33:10
I've never even seen it a second time01:33:13
so when they called and and asked01:33:17
questions about me about money this01:33:20
she said he's the only guy01:33:25
who I've ever known01:33:28
where is he and something and never anything01:33:30
will ask in return01:33:31
ok okay next idea they wanted01:33:35
they wanted to hear all sorts of dirt01:33:37
crap01:33:45
I had one ex-girlfriend, I won't01:33:48
talk about name and what she did01:33:50
it was also addressed01:33:55
I know some things that happened01:33:58
because giovanni was secret01:34:01
confidential informant and he01:34:02
told authorities that some of these01:34:04
women and other people said and they01:34:07
told me01:34:10
never asked her, we would like to know01:34:12
something about him was great01:34:15
was he friendly with him? was he in the country?01:34:18
relationship was it ready and01:34:22
she said I can answer01:34:26
Yes of course01:34:30
if all of you guys were there and there were lawyers01:34:34
investigator and gangsters room01:34:37
if you didn't gather all of you together01:34:40
even others on his ass01:34:43
the next ones01:34:46
there was also a woman named tony n01:34:49
who was very friendly very01:34:50
close to and hack hack this piece of crap01:34:53
went to her and put the words euro I want01:34:57
for you to say this this this and this and she01:35:00
I said it's not true if you don't tell me01:35:04
And01:35:05
we will kill you01:35:06
[music]01:35:08
not only did she not say, she rushed01:35:11
run opened up somewhere she refused01:35:14
they couldn't get any woman01:35:16
who would go against me by telling a lie01:35:18
and so that it isn't there01:35:20
even when they threatened01:35:23
so do01:35:26
I had plenty of information like this01:35:29
things01:35:31
confidential informants revealed01:35:33
information to authorities and some01:35:35
government officials are very good and01:35:37
By the way, they kept me informed and then when01:35:40
I am the god of prisons as I said with the masses01:35:42
different people who defected to01:35:44
there are simply many sides of the authorities and01:35:46
they told me what they heard or01:35:49
what's happened01:35:50
this and this are different things01:35:54
so I had a lot of knowledge who spoke01:35:56
What01:35:57
who did what and01:36:04
again this story that happened01:36:06
told by a man whose name I do not01:36:08
I'll call it no matter01:36:12
but I had a lot of free time01:36:14
time to read to him01:36:18
I was not particularly limited in any way01:36:20
than in this too01:36:22
of course I was in prison01:36:25
but these branches are for collaborators01:36:27
the authorities are not a tough place, they are quite01:36:29
soft for yourself01:36:31
that is, you cooperate, you pursue01:36:34
there is no opportunity to get out of prison01:36:37
no murders or anything big01:36:38
serious waste these prison departments01:36:41
these are soft compartments no one is looking for there01:36:44
problems01:36:45
the day we were arrested at the club01:36:48
equal and01:36:50
me and john were super close01:36:54
that is, I did everything I could01:36:56
do under the sun menu when its01:36:58
arrested I threatened a witness gave01:37:01
bribes to people I ruined things as best I could01:37:06
jury votes I did my best01:37:09
under the sun if he wanted someone01:37:11
I was killed I did it01:37:14
I was part of the reason he became01:37:17
boss in when frankie sensor was killed i01:37:20
and john knew that it was me and him we were01:37:23
in a state of war together it was me and him01:37:25
against the world and01:37:27
I wanted everyone to know if you01:37:30
if you go against john you better get rid of it01:37:32
us wallpaper01:37:34
so we were super super close and01:37:37
this is how it was and how it went with01:37:39
first day I01:37:41
I loved this guy I really loved him01:37:45
admired respected01:37:48
respected the position in which he was and01:37:51
[music]01:37:53
it was great benefit of that moment01:37:57
when did these records come out in color?01:38:00
the problem has developed to such an extent01:38:03
that she called one hand not the other01:38:09
I was so choosing a balance and everything01:38:13
this01:38:15
when were you in a relationship like this?01:38:18
I was at such a point of respect that I didn't01:38:21
questioned something01:38:24
her thoughts actions or what he wanted01:38:27
do no matter how much01:38:28
crazy it could be like01:38:31
joining the club every day they collect01:38:33
everyone I knew it was crazy01:38:36
but nevertheless, when someone approached01:38:38
complained to me, I said he is the boss and this01:38:41
what he wants01:38:44
I had the same feeling when we ended up01:38:47
prison when we were scattered into solitary01:38:48
cameras and01:38:50
we had a court hearing01:38:53
on one and hearing where they gave out the light01:38:56
records01:38:58
all this talk behind my back and01:39:02
very few of them were not lies and01:39:06
partner has never killed or taken from01:39:08
business01:39:09
until today I have a partner01:39:12
with whom I had business dealings 3001:39:15
40 years ago they send me letters with01:39:20
with respect and love I01:39:24
never killed a single person to01:39:27
take over the union01:39:28
in fact, when a [ __ ] is underwear and this is about01:39:32
what people said01:39:33
he cut down the trade union so for us I01:39:36
took him under his control01:39:40
but I didn't kill him to take this one01:39:42
union Jon & Volpi01:39:44
[music]01:39:45
I want to give you an example01:39:48
when we first took over the family and01:39:50
Franks sensor was alive01:39:52
we were at a meeting and01:40:00
john or frankie one of them said01:40:03
you take control of it yourself stars01:40:07
because I was in the construction business01:40:09
I had business with them01:40:11
but I said no01:40:14
the ideal person who can become01:40:16
this trade union where01:40:18
he is much smarter than me he has more01:40:20
knowledge of how trade unions work and01:40:23
number three babies wasp who was originally01:40:26
families bananas01:40:29
he was not dedicated to the mafia he was01:40:31
extremely friendly01:40:35
that's why I said I think it's doom01:40:38
I should never run a trade union01:40:40
forget the sensor market looked at john01:40:42
and said see01:40:44
if he joins this trade union then this01:40:46
means that he will steer there he01:40:49
can earn a couple hundred thousand01:40:50
dollars a year but he doesn't think about money01:40:52
and never thought about them, he thinks about that01:40:57
how to do better so that we can be better at01:40:59
what we do is what I love01:41:01
this is what John always loved and looked and01:41:04
said yes you are right and01:41:07
he gave you the steering wheel and the union01:41:10
of course when John was killed01:41:13
came back to me with this question and said01:41:15
that now you go and just lie around01:41:16
pour and you must remember that even01:41:18
when you were in charge there me and he were01:41:21
very close and in many cases he01:41:22
leaned on me I provided him01:41:25
assistance from trade union management and so much01:41:27
brains or connections that the office had01:41:31
but I was at street level like01:41:33
criminal01:41:35
drew a case with delegates tied up01:41:37
people01:41:38
And01:41:40
I had a fierce reputation so he01:41:43
used or he said themselves01:41:45
let the delegates talk to these01:41:46
information sign will go about you because01:41:48
he knew that he could do more01:41:50
hits than if he goes to figure it out01:41:52
themselves and try some kind of sophistication01:41:54
convince01:41:56
so when I heard that I was killing01:41:58
people from the union or killing their own01:42:01
business partners to take possession of them01:42:03
business it really knocked me off my feet01:42:07
John told him why all this is not01:42:11
took a long time to literally01:42:12
put it all together01:42:16
understand that the weight of the conspiracy was01:42:18
that he was going to kill me01:42:20
now let me explain this01:42:23
you can't kill someone who is01:42:25
high level and very loyal to you01:42:29
it sends a signal to the whole family01:42:31
fear01:42:33
corners if he can bear it himself then01:42:38
any of us here stands before01:42:39
troubles nikis card did it01:42:42
when he seized power over the family and his01:42:45
Philip's son's closest friend and ally01:42:47
tests on the nickname kim myung01:42:49
his sau and dough scenes01:42:53
blender boss of a Philadelphia family01:42:55
chikin but he was killed three years earlier01:43:00
soldier his time table dedicated01:43:01
pay became captain01:43:05
he was the rising star of the family all his01:43:08
loved was very hard specific01:43:10
guy and01:43:11
people thought who was closer to the books belongings01:43:15
than sale with st who was his son01:43:18
best friend01:43:21
when he scarf and killed sale with st by01:43:24
largely in ancient times, fears for01:43:26
your position01:43:27
it suited the whole family and01:43:29
everyone knew about it and had the same thought01:43:32
his wife in relation to me, he simply could not01:43:35
I could bear it like a boss01:43:38
but he wasn’t ready then01:43:40
excuses and then it would fit all01:43:42
family so now I began to understand what01:43:45
the idea behind these conversations was that01:43:47
happened and it changed our01:43:50
relationships and01:43:52
then of course they chewed the matcha for 11 months01:43:54
together I have already told you several01:43:57
horror stories01:44:00
who really got me and01:44:03
franke lucas a01:44:04
we just couldn't stay you with him01:44:07
more01:44:12
do you remember the last time you01:44:13
talked to John Gotti01:44:16
the last conversation I would have already01:44:18
we have a guest01:44:19
was about to listen and01:44:22
that he is going to hire a lawyer01:44:26
wiretaps sounded terrible and exposed01:44:28
I feel terrible and01:44:31
he told me01:44:36
themselves01:44:38
on these recordings who sound like a minister and01:44:43
I have a theory about this matter01:44:46
I will control the lawyers lawyers01:44:49
let's put this matter this way a little01:44:52
different than here but the point is a poor year01:44:55
you hear him complaining about01:44:56
he himself lost control, he must be alive01:45:01
he killed people from his union01:45:03
partners and everything else01:45:08
so this is what you hear on the recording01:45:10
now he's complaining about himself01:45:14
so it wasn't John Gotti01:45:18
it was this animal01:45:21
who killed people and seized assets01:45:25
I believe the jury will release him01:45:28
to freedom and will sentence me and01:45:31
he literally said it to my face01:45:34
said this is what you need to do01:45:37
must be done told the criminal01:45:39
the world needs a boss and I am the boss01:45:41
any sacrificial lamb and01:45:44
you will stay in prison for the rest of your life01:45:49
John told him he was sure and01:45:54
he said yes01:45:57
this was the last conversation we had01:45:59
I got along with him01:46:02
there were one or two messages from him before01:46:05
how am I going to transfer01:46:08
transport me to prison at all costs01:46:11
but it was only one 2 messages01:46:14
one time he asked me to come when01:46:17
I had a meeting with a lawyer, I said01:46:19
listen to the guard, tell him that I01:46:21
I'm sick, I don't feel well01:46:23
I figured it out so these were the last ones01:46:25
communications that I physically had01:46:26
face to face yourself01:46:28
I received a message but that was all01:46:31
[ __ ] I didn't want to listen to him anymore01:46:32
at all01:46:34
I had enough, what happened to the family01:46:37
from here01:46:41
when the entire administration01:46:44
boss under boss and consigliere when everyone01:46:47
close at the same time and also01:46:50
Tommy Gambino who was the captain01:46:52
who ruled the clothing industry01:46:56
everyone thinks that everything will fall apart at once, but01:46:58
this is wrong01:47:00
Cosa Nostra this structure01:47:03
captains on site they will deliver01:47:06
my territory but I don’t know what to do01:47:08
manage their teams and they01:47:10
understand Cosa Nostra what should be01:47:12
done and what should not be done01:47:14
message the difference is all the time01:47:19
John's brother Pete his son came to01:47:22
meeting and I'm sure the message came from01:47:25
I feed him and from the outside world I01:47:28
also sent a message outside to me01:47:30
were seeing01:47:31
Ukrainian varnish this more visit so I01:47:35
I'm sure that his son who was01:47:36
dedicated01:47:38
that is, the family continued to function01:47:43
she seems to be in neutral more or less01:47:46
she is not handcuffed not at speed but at01:47:49
neutral and01:47:52
people waiting for message signals orders01:47:54
who were supposed to come from prison01:47:59
this is how the family continued to function01:48:01
why at this time they told the media that you01:48:04
managed to listen to the prison01:48:07
the news was stunning it was01:48:11
magazines different magazines01:48:14
every week something new came out but01:48:17
newspapers01:48:20
it wasn't just New York newspapers01:48:23
they wrote about it all over the country and01:48:26
there were newspapers and letters that came01:48:30
from different countries all over the world01:48:35
this forced even the prosecutor01:48:37
they tried to cover up this whole flow01:48:40
information with the authorities but they do not01:48:42
could it was impossible to stop it01:48:44
everything was non-standard, demolition of the roof, actors01:48:47
the actresses talked about it all01:48:51
look I don't think ever01:48:53
something received such publicity in the press01:48:55
how are we doing well maybe an event01:48:57
worldwide received more01:49:00
but it was just non-standard01:49:02
tore off01:49:05
I saw guys who had news01:49:07
slices or something01:49:09
someone mailed me another01:49:12
sitting01:49:14
I got the same story out of three01:49:16
different newspapers in this guy were I said01:49:20
that they send you all these newspapers no01:49:23
they just cut out articles and send them01:49:24
prison inmates are discussing us01:49:27
prisoners go to meetings when we01:49:29
let's go out for our visit it was before01:49:31
funny01:49:32
half the visiting room was watching01:49:35
on us and01:49:37
the other was with her families but it was01:49:40
it is clear that there were whispered conversations and us01:49:42
people smiled, waved and so on it was01:49:46
madness01:49:52
[music]01:50:12
those guys from you who say that I01:50:14
I was arrested, I started to cooperate, I say01:50:16
you I've been arrested my whole life01:50:20
numerous cases related to01:50:21
murders and never Sean01:50:23
cooperation never01:50:26
when my daughter heard that I was going to01:50:28
cooperation she almost fell noticeably I01:50:31
taught my children my family to my friends01:50:33
my people I have been against this all my life01:50:36
I've always heard what the story is01:50:41
why did this guy go to01:50:43
cooperation if he is a good person01:50:44
if he was a piece of crap I would do it01:50:46
This01:50:48
but a lot of people who are pieces of [ __ ]01:50:51
they'll say right away but he's just a rat they01:50:53
don't know the whole story they don't know what01:50:55
what happened and what the [ __ ] were they doing01:50:58
from Japan ended up in my place in this01:51:01
prison01:51:03
while01:51:05
when your boss is your friend01:51:08
your partner01:51:10
one of the few people you love01:51:12
more than anyone01:51:16
Of course I didn't love him more than me01:51:18
loved his mother or his father and his01:51:20
wife or your children01:51:22
but besides all these people01:51:26
me and him were glued together01:51:30
we fought against the world and now we01:51:34
we are fighting against the state and I was there01:51:35
this01:51:36
[music]01:51:39
so 11 months after I01:51:42
was arrested01:51:43
then I switched sides after that01:51:46
conversation01:51:48
do you want to make these me monsters01:51:52
my wife and children will listen to it all01:51:55
court and01:51:56
I will have to sit there as if planted01:51:59
plant I won't owe anything01:52:01
answer my lawyer and don't need anything01:52:03
will answer01:52:04
so everyone and everyone will turn around and say well01:52:07
that's probably right it's probably01:52:18
so everyone01:52:20
who thinks or heard or thought that I01:52:24
started collaborating in the first days when we01:52:26
they arrested all harmful delusions and01:52:28
all these stories01:52:31
part of what happened during 1101:52:34
months that you can’t sit out01:52:39
Franks of this varnish are hard for life01:52:42
received a life sentence for01:52:47
they blame me too01:52:50
over the past four years almost to01:52:53
current moment01:52:55
I fought for him to get him out of prison01:52:59
a couple of months ago he just died01:53:04
For 4 years after leaving prison I fought01:53:07
court of power and I liked the idea of01:53:10
that I'm trying to help him01:53:13
but I fought for him all four years01:53:15
contract01:53:17
I received a message from him01:53:24
I myself knew that you would tell it as the truth01:53:27
I knew that you would help me01:53:29
but it didn't work01:53:32
even when they listened to the truth they didn't01:53:34
wanted to let him go01:53:38
edge my friend is wherever he is now01:53:41
you were betrayed and we discussed it you knew01:53:45
that's how I know that's what I wanted you to do01:53:48
I left, I regret that I didn’t switch to01:53:50
the other side and I never left prison01:53:52
I think you have a price that you01:53:54
worry who is dedicated if the mafia01:53:56
wherever you are bro you are real01:54:00
the man was always straight, I’m filming01:54:02
hats to you and01:54:06
that's all I can say or but I01:54:10
tried desperately everything I could I couldn't01:54:13
lie I wanted to tell the truth about this01:54:14
case and they didn’t accept01:54:18
I put myself at risk his lawyer01:54:21
said01:54:23
his lawyer01:54:25
the next person to be named01:54:27
I hit the rats right in the face01:54:30
you won't gain anything if you help him01:54:32
go free and you'll only get lost and01:54:37
you do it yourself I have the limit01:54:40
respect for you01:54:43
I'm not trying to ask for forgiveness here01:54:45
or the scout is a lot of crap01:54:49
when I started this channel I tried to be01:54:52
as truthful and01:54:54
tell the truth always everywhere01:54:57
I don't blame anyone I don't blame anything I01:55:01
telling a story it allows me01:55:03
I better sleep, I don't care at all01:55:05
you think but it allows me to sleep01:55:07
easier and01:55:08
this is actually all a thing today01:55:13
FBI court documents01:55:16
New York police people who01:55:18
dozens collaborated after me01:55:22
this is all backed up by facts and01:55:26
[music]01:55:28
it hasn't been years since you accumulated it and that's why I01:55:30
I'm doing this podcast on the first day01:55:35
I want something that has been accumulating for me for years01:55:38
went out and01:55:40
this is cleansing for me01:55:43
when it all comes out and is said01:55:45
Truth01:55:50
I will still live for how long01:55:53
now I'm past old age01:55:55
when can I drop dead and be killed01:55:57
anything can happen to me01:56:00
hut and so on01:56:02
I feel a little better now01:56:04
about yourself01:56:07
I never liked the fact01:56:09
cooperation and this is what I sent01:56:11
someone to jail I'll tell you this and01:56:14
there is confirmation of this01:56:16
there must be fifty hundred people walking01:56:18
now on the streets of the former criminal01:56:20
life but perhaps because we are all already01:56:22
age most of them are dead but01:56:24
there are people who walk the streets01:56:26
they say may God bless them if01:56:28
I wish he really was a strange rat01:56:30
I would be in jail now, I don’t know how long01:56:32
such people now but they are all in these01:56:33
thoughts when was the last time you01:56:35
New York01:56:38
I was taken there many times01:56:40
certain matter01:56:43
at new york new jersey01:56:45
I was returning there but it reached then01:56:48
didn't do that I decided to take it myself01:56:50
plane ticket and walk down the street there01:56:53
No01:56:55
let me tell you something about it01:56:57
O01:56:58
that I myself never returned01:57:00
her01:57:03
there are a number of reasons but let me01:57:05
contact the main reason when I was01:57:08
I was sentenced in my last case01:57:10
received a 20-year sentence from the federal01:57:13
government after his release01:57:16
life observations about me01:57:17
100 thousand fine and01:57:19
they also give me 19 years old and the state of arizona and01:57:22
these lines come to me at the same time01:57:26
banned from New York and01:57:28
certain places01:57:31
there is a wonderful officer01:57:33
parole officers01:57:34
release01:57:35
thank God she's not trying to do anything to me01:57:37
harm she is trying not to help honor01:57:39
for me to go forward01:57:41
it was like this from day one I really appreciate it01:57:45
these01:57:46
she's part of the reason why this is still happening01:57:48
I walk on this earth and talk01:57:50
I’m telling you out of some fear or01:57:52
something like that but because she01:57:54
helps me not to put my life on hold01:57:55
the right road01:57:59
Well, I asked him one day and why should I01:58:02
not allowed to come back to New York01:58:05
the authorities are afraid that they will kill me or that she01:58:08
said no that has nothing to do with it01:58:10
no relation01:58:12
then what does this have to do with01:58:14
she told herself to someone in washington01:58:17
made this decision at01:58:21
there are a lot of confidential ones01:58:23
they have informants wiretapped in clubs and01:58:26
in other different places01:58:28
I'm still treating you exceptionally well01:58:31
still applies to this day01:58:33
they don’t understand this whole story in Goth01:58:36
no one else is accused of anything01:58:38
accuse him and01:58:41
how should this affect me01:58:45
said01:58:47
they think that you realize it or you01:58:50
they will report it and you will try again there01:58:52
settle down and start again01:58:56
it made me smile01:58:59
I said this is crazy I don't have any of those01:59:01
intentions she said I know almost 10001:59:04
th day somehow came out in September it will be01:59:06
five years01:59:08
I really know you like everyone else01:59:10
families01:59:12
I know you wouldn't do this01:59:14
this is not your intention at all01:59:18
but explain this to the relevant idiots01:59:20
you're not allowed to do that in Washington01:59:22
this and I have to do my job I don't01:59:25
I can allow you to be there well and01:59:28
every time I go somewhere I have to01:59:31
report01:59:32
where am I going what flight number who is coming from01:59:36
me01:59:38
who I'm not dating what are your motives yes01:59:41
not all names I have to fill out and go through01:59:44
according to all criteria and01:59:47
it suits me01:59:50
because there's really no one for me01:59:53
tries to harm but does the opposite01:59:55
me straight to my feet and that everything was01:59:56
Fine01:59:58
I'm a real debtor02:00:00
I should thank you I know what it is02:00:03
It will sound strange, I'm talking about officers02:00:05
the guards but they were the ones who helped me02:00:08
stand upright and walk in a straight line02:00:09
you know the ways with a full-time warden02:00:12
because she has a supervisor and02:00:14
feeder is not a supervisor at the same thing02:00:15
time states the warden said that you02:00:18
not allowed to drink02:00:19
a week after I came out02:00:22
freedom I said no no yes [ __ ] you02:00:25
[ __ ] it02:00:26
you mean that when I go out02:00:28
restaurant with my ex-wife that I can’t02:00:30
order yourself a glass of wine there02:00:32
no no this is one of the rules we will02:00:36
check your matcha we will do everything02:00:38
tests02:00:39
if you break the rules then you go02:00:41
back to prison I02:00:46
said listen this is some [ __ ]02:00:49
rules my ex-wife she was there02:00:51
I was sitting there, he said himself or that’s enough02:00:54
their rules02:00:58
I said ok I give you my word that I won't02:01:01
I'll drink02:01:04
three months later I was in the backyard02:01:06
my son at a barbecue and he said dad02:01:09
Do you want a beer?02:01:10
said I'm not allowed to drink he said02:01:13
beer will pass through you now with us02:01:15
Friday after the weekend you won't be there02:01:18
up son and gave his word02:01:23
I've never drank more02:01:25
I gave my word to my federal02:01:28
to the warden that I will never02:01:30
I will never take drugs02:01:32
harm anyone I have never broken the law02:01:34
consciously in one form or another02:01:36
I think I've gained her trust now what02:01:40
happened you can see the car me02:01:43
I'm getting old02:01:45
I went to get Botox, these guys are not a promotion02:01:48
I don't even know what it was they didn't do it02:01:51
I got some injections after02:01:52
the bruises when they appeared told me02:01:54
lidocaine for my face so she02:01:56
lost my sensuality a little and so that02:01:58
it was possible to give an injection02:02:04
it was a woman who was a doctor and02:02:08
she put her finger in rubber gloves02:02:10
my mouth thumb and other finger was02:02:13
from the outside and she seemed to start02:02:15
crush, rub, press where necessary02:02:17
And02:02:19
I didn't think about anything at all and start with02:02:22
that I didn't know any difference that02:02:23
it was it was a painkiller02:02:27
I came home that same day and there02:02:31
there were guards from the state02:02:33
I didn't want to take it down, that is, urine, but02:02:36
this time they decided to take it from me02:02:37
test otherwise they put this farm in my mouth02:02:41
sucked and for a few minutes what is it and02:02:43
then they pulled her out and placed her02:02:45
pull you talked to me and left your mind02:02:48
well done I get the phone02:02:53
call yourself what have you02:02:55
you are there or not, you can see02:02:58
I am this dog02:03:01
I think so, why would anyone want it?02:03:03
swim the dog himself the man says it02:03:06
did not pass the analysis02:03:08
what are you on and02:03:10
we will now pick you up from home and take you02:03:13
he called his wife or someone to us02:03:14
so that someone remains a dog I02:03:17
never in my entire life never02:03:19
kissed cain02:03:21
no doubt you have some kind of mistake02:03:24
we didn't pass the test ourselves, we're going for that one02:03:27
to pick you up02:03:31
I said ok I called my gap02:03:34
ex-wife and said baby02:03:37
I'm coming back, I think they'll take me away02:03:40
for a couple of months or so I'm not02:03:41
I think it's a big thing but you need it02:03:43
take care of the dogs02:03:47
did something02:03:50
nothing they think I took cocaine to02:03:55
somehow I failed the test02:03:58
don't think anything doctors about what happened before02:04:01
it's nothing02:04:04
they called the federal warden02:04:11
she called and said that I was on my way to02:04:13
your house02:04:15
she arrived I said I called02:04:20
with them you will take me02:04:21
she said no that's not what I'm here for02:04:24
change documents02:04:26
He said02:04:29
look me straight in the eyes02:04:31
you took cocaine02:04:35
No02:04:37
no I give you my word I didn't accept02:04:41
cocaine02:04:42
that's all I can give you I don't know02:04:45
nothing else02:04:51
she hesitated for a moment are you sure02:04:56
I'm sure02:04:58
listen let me go back there some02:05:00
There's no point in lying to me now bring me back02:05:03
everything you need to do and what will be done02:05:06
they'll take me there for a long time02:05:08
well, with suspicion how likely it is02:05:10
maybe three four five months fight02:05:12
that because you're on parole02:05:14
will depend on the judges02:05:19
you are sure02:05:23
I don't want to mention his name because02:05:26
she is my supervisor of women02:05:29
I said listen I swear on mine02:05:32
you want more than your dead parents02:05:34
This02:05:37
maybe this one is easier to say because02:05:39
they are dead I swear on my wife's life02:05:43
the lives of my children, my grandchildren, all02:05:46
to break it but there is no reason02:05:48
for me to lie to you02:05:49
if I did this I'll get caught02:05:52
anyway, let them take me back02:05:54
there she took the papers and tore them up and I didn’t02:05:57
I know what was there but she tore them apart02:06:00
she called to rub their states, I said02:06:04
I believe him02:06:06
send the analysis to another laboratory02:06:09
this is like a more advanced laboratory02:06:12
analysis go there and the answer is from this02:06:16
laboratory that it was not cocaine it was02:06:19
there was a problem canin and he is in the same family02:06:22
substances but this is a medicine for pain and this02:06:24
lidocaine02:06:29
she calls me and laughs02:06:33
you went Karashchuk to someone02:06:36
did you give yourself botox or something?02:06:38
another country, what the hell02:06:41
they put your mouth in the forest and move you02:06:45
women understand this [ __ ]02:06:47
I said yes yes02:06:51
the doctor left you at home something she did02:06:53
rubbed you02:06:55
yes I have this one, I will come for you02:06:58
in five minutes she arrives grandfather loved02:07:02
this is lidocaine, who the [ __ ] even knew?02:07:07
cocaine cocaine from the same thing it was02:07:09
it doesn’t matter because I didn’t want to02:07:11
accept neither one nor the other02:07:12
I didn't even take this lidocaine myself02:07:15
when it was done it was simple02:07:16
a drug that doctors use before02:07:18
how to give injections02:07:20
so what am I talking about now I don’t even know why02:07:22
and he talked about it to me for so long02:07:24
good relationship with her02:07:27
but these things that happened were02:07:29
good news that people on the street are from02:07:31
understand crime and accept the truth02:07:33
part of the story I know there are many02:07:36
people who are not in the know and want us02:07:38
here with your mouths especially now when02:07:40
they sit in the basements of their mothers' houses and02:07:42
make your rants here and such a rat and02:07:45
other other stupidity I would like to02:07:49
you came and met me lesson and we02:07:51
I would like to discuss this process with you02:07:59
[music]02:08:12
and finally left the meeting with02:08:14
representatives of the authorities and I had02:08:16
this visit is reduced and02:08:19
my daughter02:08:22
she is young02:08:24
she is a mafia princess and for me02:08:28
people treated her like a queen02:08:31
she learned everything in life from me02:08:34
never cooperates never02:08:37
paint treat never do02:08:38
a certain thing it's not us it's not ours02:08:41
family we don't do things like that02:08:46
so at this meeting I tell them I02:08:54
I'm going to cooperate with the state02:08:56
I'm going to leave the mafia, my daughter has arrived02:08:59
she jumped out of her seat in a rage and cried02:09:01
screams holding his head no02:09:06
no dad02:09:09
she gets up and just runs to the door guard02:09:13
opens the door and she's absolutely she02:09:14
this one runs away from the place02:09:17
[music]02:09:35
the hardest decision of my life02:09:40
I look at my wife I say extra02:09:44
what happened to your brother I'm in too02:09:47
I've been in this area since day one02:09:51
oh my god yourself02:09:57
please do not02:10:01
I would like to say that this is not so but I02:10:05
I can't it has to come out I02:10:08
I can't do anything to stop this from happening02:10:09
came out02:10:15
my wife left02:10:20
serves tears02:10:25
it broke her heart and02:10:29
she divorced me02:10:32
I understood from02:10:35
I told the authorities at my place02:10:37
there I have cars02:10:41
arrange and spend I give and all the house02:10:45
cars money in accounts everything02:10:53
but she never completely left me02:10:55
she left we got divorced it was legal02:10:59
all these things happened02:11:02
but part of the story came out and02:11:08
she never completely left me02:11:13
now part of history02:11:15
which has never been known before02:11:23
when we initially talked about02:11:25
kill castellano02:11:29
for John Gotti02:11:31
anyone02:11:33
in order to briefly take power to the family I02:11:35
maybe you already talked about this02:11:37
heard02:11:39
when I wanted the sensor to become Frank02:11:41
boss02:11:42
no he's a year old02:11:45
he said I can be his he is durvasa but02:11:48
he can't be mine02:11:50
him and which party they belong to02:11:53
I think you remember all this at the end02:11:58
when I wanted him to become the boss he02:12:02
said Paul himself did a lot02:12:04
wrong things02:12:06
I think it's time to save John and02:12:08
unit and take control of the family and02:12:13
don't forget what he did regarding02:12:15
you and your family02:12:18
I told Frankie I'll never forget this02:12:23
but I don't want this whole thing to be from02:12:26
places I want this thing to be a goat02:12:28
nostra we kill the boss of bosses02:12:33
I don't want this to be personal02:12:36
for this to be the only reason02:12:37
but more than likely if I didn't have02:12:40
it was Italian cause we would then02:12:42
said no02:12:44
I wouldn't participate because I don't have02:12:47
there would be reasons to participate02:12:49
so I guess that was part of my02:12:51
solutions02:12:54
so what is this problem regarding02:12:56
my extra family02:13:02
the family problem was02:13:08
that my brother-in-law02:13:12
the dome of trouble he was half leading02:13:15
the life of crime got into all sorts of ass02:13:17
always tried to cooperate alone02:13:20
I get a call at night myself02:13:22
quickly get into that brother-in-law miller's car02:13:25
street there is police he points to ours02:13:27
people come here quickly02:13:29
I'm going to I'm extinguishing one thing to another02:13:33
I tried to keep it all quiet02:13:35
went outside02:13:36
once I'm in white and02:13:41
without my knowledge it was all coming to the floor02:13:46
I didn't have any all the time02:13:50
suspicions that this is happening02:13:55
deck studied receipt printers which was02:13:57
like a brother to us and02:14:01
told the printer what are you doing02:14:03
go 8 best people yourself02:14:07
louis melitta stami and02:14:10
old man's root02:14:12
the shores that killed them but themselves02:14:16
they don't say anything themselves02:14:24
Franks went to talk to them with02:14:27
all three02:14:34
they refused02:14:37
film said you understand what is this02:14:40
refusal is an order from the boss02:14:43
they all absolutely understood what it was02:14:45
that means02:14:47
they said he would go crazy with rage02:14:49
having learned and we will give it to him every day02:14:52
our relationship from this very day02:14:55
it's better to die they all say02:14:58
I will not do this02:15:03
edge said ok don't say anything02:15:05
him and02:15:08
went back to the meeting with the floor and02:15:11
told him they didn't say no somehow02:15:14
in the wrong way they just love02:15:16
this guy they just can't do it theirs02:15:19
understanding that they will be life and deceitful02:15:21
relationship from the day it happens02:15:23
this is murder Paul you know what it is02:15:27
Casanova I tell you he is a Cosa Nostra02:15:29
the last line and his order02:15:34
give him an order02:15:38
do you think this is right franke yes02:15:42
yes, he has an order, okay, you will give it to him02:15:46
this order which are in the basement themselves02:15:49
take the gun with you to the market, this is for you02:15:53
order02:15:55
I'll tell him to do it02:15:58
if he says no if he starts with him02:16:01
hangs nervous I kill him and02:16:05
topic let's kill his team and this guy is all02:16:07
smooth02:16:11
now frankie this is supposed to be02:16:14
he takes 100 years and must kill me02:16:17
front come to me and tell me02:16:19
this story02:16:27
all my boys said no02:16:30
all your main people said no02:16:34
he shows me under his shirt02:16:36
using a pistol02:16:38
I'm not here to kill you02:16:41
we are like brothers I am not going to kill02:16:44
you02:16:46
we can't win here on your own02:16:49
you can win02:16:51
how will it happen that all three of them are02:16:54
I have to die I have to die02:16:56
because I just broke an order02:16:58
you have to die02:17:00
this guy is going to die anyway you don't care02:17:03
you can do it too02:17:06
we can't choose in all this02:17:09
situation about02:17:15
my God02:17:20
I never imagined an island in Kazan02:17:27
I'm never in this position for a million02:17:30
I can't imagine this for years02:17:34
I said Frankie do me a favor02:17:36
hotel bye come back from 2 o'clock please02:17:39
let me think about it02:17:42
while Franks was away I met three02:17:45
these guys and I talked to him02:17:48
you know what you did they all sorts of 0 to02:17:57
so if I don't want to do this you02:18:00
you'll all die with me02:18:02
they all said yes02:18:08
I know what Frankie screwed up he must02:18:11
came to me with a weapon02:18:14
so my decision is not what I say02:18:17
no, I refuse and they kill me02:18:22
if I say no now02:18:27
my three closest people02:18:30
sensor market02:18:32
I'm my shulya02:18:36
We all will die02:18:50
the hardest decision of my life02:18:54
the toughest02:19:03
fa ki ki pranks is back02:19:08
I said I'll tell him that I followed the order02:19:11
did this02:19:17
I said my units02:19:20
it must be done02:19:23
he must disappear02:19:25
[music]02:19:29
I made an appointment with him, I wasn't there02:19:32
there and02:19:33
[music]02:19:40
when I returned02:19:43
he was dead and he is now02:19:48
[music]02:19:53
so the day I met my02:19:55
daughter and wife02:19:59
that's what I had to open it up and02:20:02
my family02:20:05
I never talk about it02:20:08
too much pain for too many02:20:10
people including me02:20:14
but it’s already difficult with history02:20:17
which I will say is presented by some02:20:20
rotten bastards02:20:22
who only want to harm me or02:20:24
hurt my family and they beat02:20:26
I don't answer this story like that people02:20:29
they think it’s true, just like it breaks Aries02:20:32
what's wrong you just didn't hear the rights02:20:36
[music]02:20:40
I thought now was the time02:20:42
there were already disclosures about this02:20:45
other people cooperated, the authorities knew02:20:47
things that accompany what02:20:49
It happened02:20:53
I didn't wake up one morning with a feeling02:20:55
that I want to kill my Shura no no02:21:02
I've never had anything like this in my life02:21:04
regarding who what I wake up in the morning02:21:06
desire to see someone and they serial02:21:08
killers I'm a killer02:21:11
[music]02:21:16
I need to take a break02:21:19
listens I can't think clearly anymore02:21:22
I can’t continue any further as if I’m here02:21:24
Just02:21:25
the story is told this is the case02:21:28
which influenced my whole life is02:21:30
stuck me now02:21:33
this scar is three meters deep in my02:21:36
body and02:21:37
it opens again for me02:21:41
so I need to take a break and walk02:21:44
to get away from this thing but people who02:21:46
hear this02:21:48
I finally understand what happened02:21:51
what motivated me to go straight away and02:21:55
helping john was part of it02:21:59
what the Franks were talking about and02:22:04
[music]02:22:05
this is where I can go with this02:22:08
a story and that's all02:22:11
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Сальваторе « Сэмми Бык » Гравано (родился 12 марта 1945) американский гангстер, ставший Underboss из семьи Гамбино . Гравано сыграл важную роль в оказании помощи обвинению в осуждении Джона Готти, босса преступного клана, согласившись дать показания в качестве государственного свидетеля против него и других бандитов в сделке, в которой он признался в причастности к 19 убийствам. Первоначально бандит преступного клана Коломбо, а затем бруклинской фракции семьи Гамбино, Гравано был частью группы, которая сговорилась убить босса Гамбино Пола Кастеллано в 1985 году. Гравано сыграл ключевую роль в планировании и исполнении убийства Кастеллано, а также с Готти, Анджело Руджеро , Фрэнком Дечикко и Джозефом Армоне. Вскоре после убийства Кастеллано Готти повысил Гравано до младшего босса, должность, которую Гравано занимал в то время, когда он стал свидетелем со стороны правительства. В то время Гравано был самым высокопоставленным членом Пяти семей, нарушившим свою кровную клятву и сотрудничавшим с правительством. В результате его показаний 23 июня 1992 года Готти и Франк Локашио были приговорены к пожизненному заключению без возможности условно-досрочного освобождения и штрафу в размере 250 000 долларов. 26 сентября 1994 года федеральный судья приговорил Гравано к пяти годам тюремного заключения. Однако, поскольку Гравано уже отсидел четыре года, приговор составил менее одного года. Он был досрочно освобожден и вошел в Федеральную программу защиты свидетелей США в Аризоне, но покинул программу в 1995 году. В 1997 году с Гравано несколько раз консультировались для написания биографической книги о его жизни « Андербосс » писателя Питера Мааса . В феврале 2000 года Гравано и около 40 других участников группировки, включая его бывшую жену Дебру, дочь Карен и сына Джерарда, были арестованы по федеральным обвинениям и обвинениям в наркотиках штата. В 2002 году Гравано был приговорен в Нью-Йорке к двадцати годам тюрьмы. Через месяц он был также приговорен в Аризоне к девятнадцати годам лишения свободы по совместительству. Изначально его планировалось выпустить в марте 2019 года, однако освободили досрочно 18 сентября 2017 года.
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