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hello everyone and welcome to the00:00:03
channel Sam independent farmer and00:00:05
Sam it's me so today we're going to00:00:07
talk about equipment ah the equipment so00:00:11
indeed I have a lot of questions in00:00:13
the comments on what do you00:00:15
think of such tool what type00:00:17
should be chosen I wish to repair my00:00:20
floors I wish to dethatch which rollers do00:00:22
you think will be ideal etc so00:00:24
I am trying to partly answer these00:00:26
questions but I am not sure that00:00:29
you are already reading each one the00:00:30
comments of your colleagues so they00:00:32
are a source of exchange and also to avoid00:00:34
asking myself the same question several times00:00:36
sometimes in the videos it00:00:38
would be good if you also watched them00:00:39
until the end before sometimes intervening00:00:42
in any case I invites you to it, it00:00:43
also prevents you from waiting for a response00:00:45
that is finally in the video so00:00:47
the idea is not to give00:00:49
instructions for use, you know it is the00:00:50
principle of the channel we will rather, let's00:00:52
talk about thinking about tools. The00:00:54
first thing is that we've been00:00:55
doing machinist consulting for 15 years00:00:57
since I started out with00:00:58
machinist training, but there are sometimes00:01:00
voters who tell me, well, we00:01:01
we bought subtitle there but I don't know00:01:03
if I did the right thing so already guys00:01:06
it's not good because in general if00:01:07
you sign an order form you00:01:08
have to be so convinced of your00:01:10
purchase that you you could go and sell it00:01:11
to everyone around you in any case in00:01:13
principle the tool is not very00:01:15
complicated it must simply meet your00:01:17
objectives but we can also00:01:20
sometimes observe that the actors do not00:01:22
always have precise objectives and00:01:24
not having them precise objective that's how people00:01:26
can buy things that do00:01:28
n't correspond to them in the end so we00:01:30
start by choosing objectives we're going to00:01:32
have all the existing brands if00:01:34
we don't have too much time we concentrate00:01:35
on a few -some we look at certain00:01:37
criteria by broadening as much as possible even00:01:39
things that we would not have thought of00:01:40
doing and in the end we tighten we00:01:42
tighten and in fact the day we00:01:44
invest is that we really have weighed00:01:45
all the criteria that we seemed00:01:47
capital this is what we are going to do in00:01:49
this video to give you the00:01:50
important criteria between versatility which00:01:53
seems to us to be the number 1 criterion of a00:01:55
tool given the investment costs00:01:56
between carrying semi-carrying interest00:01:58
advantage disadvantages of both systems00:02:00
the shape of the tooth what donation we choose00:02:03
for what objective why we are going to00:02:05
talk to you about more than one specific type inside00:02:07
which is versatile we will then talk00:02:09
about consolidation ah the choice of00:02:12
rollers is something00:02:13
very important today to bring back this00:02:14
famous porosity that you know00:02:16
well now and then he finished that it00:02:19
is important the finishing of the work00:02:20
why it is important since in00:02:22
particular but it is valid in all00:02:24
the techniques of working the soil but00:02:25
it is true that in00:02:26
soil conservation techniques if we are looking in the00:02:28
long term or even before the wad why00:02:29
not to improve the decomposition the00:02:32
speeds of evolution of your residues and00:02:34
well the finishing is part of that and00:02:36
will prepare the future in some way00:02:38
so there you go if that suits you00:02:40
well we're gone then carry or00:02:43
semi-wear then often it's a00:02:44
story a little bit of iron surface00:02:46
but in any case it's the number00:02:47
one argument or plot size it's clear00:02:50
that one of the disadvantages of the semi-porter00:02:51
is necessarily the price it is like a00:02:53
folding or a fixed but today00:02:55
beyond 3.50 meters in fixed it is a little00:02:57
complicated00:02:58
so there are farmers today00:02:59
who team up for example to00:03:01
buy a semi-mounted tool if they do00:03:02
n't have the space there is also a story00:03:04
about the size of tractors it is clear00:03:06
that we must not lie to ourselves the semi-portable00:03:08
will always remain a lot more pulling00:03:10
much more pulling that matters00:03:11
simply because there is already the mass00:03:13
of the tool to transport tools00:03:15
like that weigh more than 5 tons so it00:03:17
is clear that there is already the mass to00:03:18
tow says that 'there is a little bit of00:03:19
relief, there needs to be levels of grip00:03:21
so here I would invite you to watch the00:03:23
video on ballast since there are00:03:25
obviously load transfers that00:03:26
exist for hydraulic mounted seed drills00:03:28
etc. but these are systems00:03:29
which work very well there is nothing to00:03:31
say about that but which remains00:03:33
a little more complex at once since in00:03:34
fact it is only triggered when there00:03:36
is an extension of the lever arm in the00:03:38
end so I won't go into00:03:39
detail we made the choice of the00:03:41
rear mass it's fixed it's00:03:43
once again versatile argument number 1 and00:03:45
it serves something other than simply00:03:46
being behind it's a mass there for00:03:48
an equal price to the hydraulic system therefore00:03:50
without the possible breakdowns and without00:03:51
the oil the 8 to 10 liters of oil00:03:54
necessary continuously to00:03:55
operate the system the advantage of the00:03:58
semi mounted compared to the mounted is00:03:59
the capacity to enter tools00:04:01
obviously there you see the lever arm00:04:03
that I have here a disc tool or00:04:05
Adam which is equipped in semi-carry it's00:04:08
day and night it's not at all the00:04:09
same work the tool will always00:04:10
penetrate00:04:12
it will also have stability through00:04:15
weight it will often be placed on00:04:17
gauge wheels at the front which are00:04:19
not necessarily used for depth and on a00:04:21
roller at the rear so that is00:04:22
important, that is to say that it 'is an00:04:24
important balance so that's an00:04:26
important point the second to look at00:04:28
also it's on a semi-port it's the00:04:30
heavens where the heavens are located00:04:32
here so we see that on this tool like00:04:35
many others d 'elsewhere it is00:04:36
located in the middle it is really a tool00:04:38
which is conscious mid-carry but there are00:04:40
also carried tools on which we00:04:42
put an arrow and an axle at00:04:44
the rear of the roller it is perhaps00:04:46
economically there is a small gain00:04:48
especially for the manufacturer but for00:04:50
you honestly finally we think that00:04:52
mechanically it is not very very00:04:53
logical we transfer the load to00:04:55
the rear which unbalances the tool that00:04:57
is the first point second point00:04:59
is the take-up of the joints00:05:00
of its axles in the long run it's not00:05:02
logical enough it's held only by a large00:05:03
axle it can't work laterally well00:05:06
so for us it's to00:05:08
avoid the real semi- carry it is a00:05:09
tool which stands almost alone and which is00:05:12
placed then this one is placed from00:05:13
the front like many brands so00:05:15
it comes in gradually and it00:05:17
is controlled in depth at the front00:05:20
at the front here on the roads which are00:05:23
connected to the rear apart from the connecting rods00:05:26
with the roller so it is really a00:05:28
tool which lays flat to00:05:30
carry it the big advantage it will00:05:32
obviously be the price as we said00:05:34
earlier the rather short side on the00:05:35
tractor therefore less room for00:05:37
maneuvering etc. although you get used to00:05:40
the semi-carrier maneuver very easily,00:05:41
frankly it's when you are really00:05:42
used to it that you don't really notice the00:05:45
difference there is a postponement of00:05:47
much stronger load on the carry the00:05:49
limit on the other hand it will be00:05:50
the lengthening of the tool that is to say00:05:52
that due to the weight it is difficult to have00:05:55
more than three beams I speak for the00:05:57
Adam tools in particular but it This is00:05:58
almost valid for disc tools we have00:06:00
difficulty having a space between the00:06:03
beams large enough we will be at 50 cm00:06:06
for example for carried tools when00:06:08
we will be at 75 or 70 or 65 on00:06:11
semi-mounted tools and the clearance under the00:06:14
frame today everyone there is00:06:16
no longer so much of a concern to pass into00:06:18
the residual effort on the other hand what is00:06:20
missing is the space between beams and00:06:21
believe me it is almost more important00:06:23
than the clearance under the frame and there is a00:06:25
third criterion to look at which is the00:06:26
layout, that is to say the arrangement00:06:28
of the teeth00:06:30
not of the discs but of the teeth on the00:06:31
chassis since that is almost even00:06:34
more important than the space between00:06:36
beams on the lengthening of the tool00:06:39
because in fact this is what allows00:06:40
the residue to pass very, very well and00:06:42
this is even more valid for00:06:43
tools with tighter teeth which00:06:44
can be used for sowing or00:06:45
fine preparations on the residues there00:06:48
are people who talk about jamming these00:06:49
are tools whether it is this one or00:06:51
the other with a small tooth that I have rarely00:06:53
seen stuffed in fact it is important it is00:06:55
with a residue key pass through a flow00:06:57
relatively easily so there for00:06:59
the semi-carry aspect this is the00:07:01
big difference and the stability at00:07:02
work the penetration of course the00:07:05
fault is the price the load transfer00:07:07
but here for the work aspect it is00:07:10
clear that it's still quite a00:07:12
difference when we see a00:07:13
semi-carry disc tool working and the same00:07:14
carry disc tool we can't even00:07:16
compare these two tools, two00:07:18
completely different worlds00:07:19
so afterward it's a choice the form of the00:07:22
tooth so that we have already talked about it in the00:07:24
unemployment video but on the market there are00:07:27
a lot of very00:07:28
enveloping teeth why because it is00:07:30
a request from farmers there are00:07:32
farmers when they leave the field00:07:33
where there is straw they are very00:07:35
happy that when they leave the field when00:07:37
they have finished we almost no longer see the00:07:39
straw you have understood for us it is00:07:41
not really the strategy to respect00:07:44
the main principles of00:07:46
conservation agriculture while working the00:07:47
soils it is valid for someone who00:07:49
is drunk we will have a much better00:07:50
decomposition will protect their soil protect00:07:52
their soil it is valid for everyone00:07:53
that too there are a lot of people who00:07:55
talk to me about no plowing etc. we here we00:07:57
are not the chain of the name plowing we00:07:58
follow people who are as good at00:07:59
plowing who have living soils as00:08:01
well as people who are00:08:02
plowing and who have soils which have a00:08:04
little more difficulty so see We00:08:06
really need to stay on this objective00:08:07
if everyone at their own level can move forward a00:08:10
little bit, I would already be happy, I00:08:11
could leave in peace, so that's the00:08:14
righteousness of the prop, that's called00:08:16
tensions, we call it the tooth but00:08:17
basically the tensions there are the00:08:20
tensions and there is the shape of the stanchion00:08:22
obviously here we have in there the00:08:24
straightest on the market which allows if we want00:08:27
to put curvatures on it so I00:08:29
give an example we can very well00:08:30
put a deflector like that so it in00:08:33
profile is a little short00:08:35
not too short but which is all the same00:08:37
we can very well put a wider tooth00:08:40
like that which we call an unemployment tooth00:08:43
we use it I have00:08:46
already told you that with the point called00:08:47
cracking point so here it00:08:50
is in 40 for a stanchion of 2500:08:52
[Music]00:08:53
there today we are going to go back to 50 to00:08:56
better protect the bottom of the tensions00:08:58
so fuel reload on the sides these00:09:01
are not wearing parts from the00:09:04
manufacturer because like many00:09:05
wearing parts from manufacturers00:09:07
whatever it is00:09:08
here I invite you to go and see a00:09:10
little something else so here it is00:09:13
carbide technology so we have no00:09:14
action with him except that these are00:09:16
really tips which last 5 to 10 times00:09:18
longer than the manufacturers' tips00:09:21
which are not reversible which exist00:09:24
for all brands of course in00:09:26
any case the Blues the reds the Greens00:09:29
the other blues finally there you go and the00:09:33
third tooth that we use is the00:09:36
cracking sock that we call00:09:37
at phytosol so we worked00:09:39
more than fifteen years ago they00:09:41
saw 12 years with this00:09:42
company carbide technologies to00:09:44
help us and others to manufacture a00:09:47
sock on the principles of the00:09:50
Actisol tooth which is a tooth that we have compared00:09:52
in many comparative profiles which00:09:54
is for us a reference of the00:09:55
cracking I would have the opportunity as much as00:09:56
I wanted to talk to you about this in there and00:09:58
this point there so it is a00:09:59
sock that we put in place and00:10:01
place which also goes on the marks that00:10:02
I told you before the Blues blues the00:10:04
other blues the reds00:10:06
and this blue there and so it really allows us00:10:08
to finally have two tools00:10:10
in one same three tools in one of the pre-00:10:11
cracks unemployment or here is light00:10:14
mixture a little deeper and the real00:10:16
cracking the one which does not upset not00:10:18
at all the surface of the ground and the big00:10:20
advantage that we have and that Actisol no longer has00:10:22
and does not evolve we were in00:10:25
contact a lot with this company around00:10:27
ten years ago but we find00:10:28
that they are a little overwhelmed by00:10:29
events since today we have00:10:31
dethatching tools which have become00:10:33
widespread with teeth of this type00:10:36
with a power we will talk about right00:10:38
after of pressure to do00:10:40
deeper work with a larger number of beams00:10:44
for a number of teeth00:10:46
identical to lactisol but you will00:10:47
see I will tell you about it after the00:10:48
number of teeth distributed over the length00:10:51
and capital for the quality of the work00:10:53
and especially with consolidation at the00:10:55
height even if today 'today we will00:10:57
talk about it Actisol has put rollers which00:10:59
look like that it's about time so00:11:01
today the advantage00:11:03
of having several rows in it especially00:11:05
in semi-port is that we have a00:11:06
spacing an equal number of teeth here00:11:08
we have teeth on every 30 cm00:11:10
so it is true that in stubble cultivation it is00:11:12
good there is a space of hard points00:11:15
which we have already spoken of about twenty00:11:17
centimeters since there is a power00:11:18
tearing if we take a00:11:20
wider point we even have only 10 1200:11:21
cm left between the teeth it still tears00:11:23
a lot more so we try to00:11:25
keep more hard points than that00:11:27
since we have confidence in our Sun00:11:28
over the years we want after mixing and00:11:30
separating shock from the fact that the tooth00:11:32
is straight that we will put earth00:11:33
on the residue and as I said00:11:35
promote decomposition by good00:11:37
consolidation behind and that we will00:11:39
talk about it right after now if we00:11:40
come back at an important point it is the00:11:42
power of your teeth it is clear that00:11:44
many farmers have00:11:45
dethatching tools of 7-8 years 10 years and00:11:48
that they use today with00:11:49
shares to go deeper and00:11:51
make a pseudo cracking depending on what they00:11:53
have as a point at the end00:11:55
honestly there are only 8 to 10 years that00:11:57
the tools have00:11:58
sufficient power to go to depths00:12:00
of 20 cm 25 cm sometimes 30 cm really00:12:04
well motivated since when we go on the00:12:07
ground the impacts of plowing and00:12:09
various soil works can00:12:11
go down to more than 80 cm we sometimes have00:12:13
impacts of the so-called00:12:15
padding up to a depth of 8000:12:17
cm since this has really modified the00:12:20
functioning of the soil life of the soil00:12:21
rooting etc. we will never go that00:12:23
far but it is clear that00:12:25
some tines today below00:12:27
15 cm are already in00:12:28
too extreme tapping to do a good job00:12:30
so it is important to have a tooth00:12:32
which has a spring or a00:12:34
hydraulic system like that because you need a00:12:35
percussion you need a vibration because00:12:37
otherwise we would come out of the blocks for00:12:39
people who are starting out in particular we would00:12:41
really have work which will have a00:12:43
cathedral effect and we will talk about it in the counting cracking00:12:44
teeth I00:12:46
will give you an overview of all the teeth00:12:47
that are on the market that we did quite a00:12:50
few years ago and00:12:51
ultimately little evolution but the main00:12:53
principles remain the same. 'the idea is00:12:54
good to repair and not to darken as they00:12:56
say or to deconstruct the entire00:12:58
ground so the pressure is important here00:13:00
we are in hydraulics so that's good00:13:02
when the manufacturer offers it we00:13:03
have known the springs etc. so the00:13:05
rings after a while wear00:13:06
out the tool makes more noise00:13:08
so what it knows is scamot it's rather00:13:10
violent and when it comes back it's with00:13:12
the same violence so mechanically there00:13:14
is an evolution of the axes etc. there are more00:13:17
constraints we have to be clear here00:13:18
today it's a scam in silence00:13:20
very slowly it's coming back very slowly00:13:22
so that's really important whether we00:13:23
have stones or not for that matter there00:13:26
are a lot of people who are in silt and00:13:27
who speak to me from another world that00:13:28
things are better with certain tools it is in00:13:30
fact below going 450 kg you can't00:13:33
dream you can't do cracking00:13:34
so check that carefully above all that it's00:13:36
at the tip so there is a00:13:38
lever arm so that's it, it doesn't hurt00:13:40
so that's for the teeth I think I've00:13:42
pretty much gone around quickly00:13:44
so I'm going to go a little faster there00:13:45
on the leveling aspect then00:13:47
leveling is as much for00:13:48
stubble cultivation as for deeper work00:13:50
since we can either ridge00:13:52
if we put fins things like00:13:53
that I haven't talked about it we can also00:13:54
put fins but we think that we00:13:55
must ban ailerons not at all00:13:58
not at all not at all we have already00:13:59
talked about it so there the advantage compared to00:14:02
many existing systems which00:14:03
are discs is often discs00:14:05
which are used for covering well already00:14:07
first point it is regulated according to00:14:09
the work that we do we really have00:14:10
to be very attentive to that we want it to be00:14:12
billiards we can drive at 4000:14:14
an hour across our fields the00:14:15
entrepreneurs can testify to this we have00:14:18
to it's always perfect so it's00:14:20
one of the simple tools what we00:14:23
call a little passive whatever the00:14:25
speed there this golf rod there this00:14:27
hockey rod it will close the00:14:30
groove of the tooth and it will be further00:14:32
accentuated by the spring bars here00:14:33
that there are between the00:14:35
consolidation balls which will be used at the level00:14:36
so these are wearing parts,00:14:38
don't kid yourself and some of them do00:14:40
n't work much and that's because00:14:42
well it's not regulated properly00:14:44
so that the work is perfect then00:14:46
after consolidation it is really00:14:48
something capital and we can even00:14:50
arrive at the choice of roller00:14:52
it is a strong responsibility but00:14:54
today with experience that we00:14:56
can see on the different00:14:57
departments I am also going to accelerate00:14:59
today the balls had a verse00:15:01
like that which have become widespread and00:15:03
it is not for nothing they are for us00:15:05
the most versatile rollers so we are00:15:06
not lying to ourselves not a roller which is00:15:09
capable to consolidate well when it is00:15:10
dry cannot be the same because a roller00:15:13
which can consolidate well into solid that00:15:15
is to stop dreaming it does00:15:16
not exist it does not exist on the other hand one of the00:15:20
rollers which makes the best compromise00:15:22
for us we see it on the ground00:15:24
whatever the types of sticky00:15:25
stony soil, limestone soils etc. it is00:15:28
these balls there on the other hand that does not exclude00:15:31
that sometimes a rolling behind this00:15:34
work can be useful it is clear00:15:35
in any case and it It's almost better00:15:38
to have this solution instead which00:15:40
requires decomposed work but00:15:42
sometimes we can't firm up the soil00:15:44
right away and reconsolidate it very00:15:45
strongly because it needs to00:15:48
flower a little bit, we say that at home,00:15:49
flower the earth needs a little bit00:15:51
of crying we do a much better00:15:52
job with a second job so we00:15:55
must not think that we can do everything in00:15:56
one pass there are many times or two00:15:58
passes it is part of the circuit of the00:16:00
concept for that it works well so that00:16:02
's it so it's a these are00:16:04
rolls of inverted U, that is to say00:16:05
that they fill up unlike00:16:07
U which are not inverted, that is to say00:16:08
that there is water in the other direction which00:16:10
is steel against the ground that honestly00:16:12
it is very violent when there is a little00:16:13
bit of stone anyway when the00:16:16
ground is very dry also it creates a lot00:16:18
of vibrations in the tool in the00:16:19
bearings in short for us here the earth00:16:22
is filling up that is to say that it is00:16:23
something that we do not clean we are00:16:24
not going to empty the well to clean00:16:25
the inside of the ball it is sticking00:16:27
inside it 'is very good ground to00:16:28
ground it cannot thicken there is00:16:30
no scraper there is nothing at all there is00:16:32
a step it does and the distance between00:16:35
the balls there is a step which allows00:16:37
this place for it never gets blocked00:16:39
almost and then the second ball00:16:40
also allows the seat of the tool when00:16:42
you have a somewhat Bogy system like that it00:16:44
really allows a seat it is not00:16:46
articulated it is fixed for precisely more00:16:47
seats to really have a00:16:49
consolidation effect by the weight of the tool00:16:52
and then there are other rollers with00:16:54
steel ball rollers but in00:16:55
wet conditions it is complicated in00:16:57
stones they all end up00:16:58
cutting whatever the00:17:00
best brands in the world, furrowing tire systems00:17:01
etc. excel in00:17:03
dry conditions but aging of the00:17:05
rubber in cutting ground with00:17:06
flint or other and especially in00:17:08
wet conditions already there it's no longer the same00:17:10
scrapers need power in short00:17:11
that's it seems to us be a good system00:17:14
so they did not file a patent for the00:17:16
inventors of this roller and00:17:20
today everyone is doing it so00:17:22
to finish because I see that00:17:23
time is passing I hope that you will00:17:24
still be here it is the finish so00:17:27
today we underestimate the finish00:17:28
so behind these rollers it is00:17:30
obligatory you need one or Dr behind00:17:32
to lacerate the straw to finally00:17:35
refine the surface work to close00:17:37
any small furrows which00:17:39
could allow a little00:17:40
bit to escape too much carbon humidity so the00:17:42
fineness and the aggressiveness of the tips here00:17:45
you see they are 4-5 years old they are00:17:48
worn they are at the lowest notch there00:17:49
in terms of use because it is00:17:51
really something like behind00:17:53
tire or leave me with balls etc.00:17:55
it's r this are all underestimated00:17:57
this is what it will limit you the downfall00:17:59
this is what will limit you the impression00:18:00
of icing a little bit of the surface00:18:02
c It's the harrow behind that you have to00:18:04
work vertically to avoid carrying00:18:05
away the residue. It's through the00:18:07
flexibility of the tooth and the vibration that00:18:09
the residue escapes, so you don't have to00:18:11
tilt it otherwise you'll drag it around like00:18:13
a rake. I'm being a little wary,00:18:14
but in the main00:18:16
principles, this tool or another is00:18:18
our choice of more00:18:20
vertical teeth. I think that's what's00:18:21
best in terms of being able00:18:22
to crack and dethatch. in a00:18:25
qualitative way since ultimately we have a00:18:27
shock effect and we have no burying, that00:18:28
is the important key,00:18:30
consolidation which means that today00:18:32
we can work deeper in00:18:34
one go instead of going twice at00:18:36
shallow depth since we00:18:38
never consolidate as well as when we work00:18:39
a little deeper we bring00:18:41
up the capillary humidity to00:18:42
germinate the seeds etc. and these00:18:44
rollers are also very well known00:18:45
for having an appearance of compaction00:18:47
in the end relatively moderate on00:18:50
the other hand, the readings whether transmitted00:18:52
or very rapid weeds, it00:18:54
's spectacular everyone is00:18:56
unanimous on that and it comes from00:18:58
rolling there earth against earth finally00:18:59
we have a settlement which is not that00:19:01
is not violent even in soils00:19:03
with low clay content and that is00:19:04
very important it is very important00:19:05
so there you go well listen I invite you to00:19:08
ask more questions if you00:19:10
have any we will make other videos on00:19:11
disk tools for example but in00:19:13
the main principles here I tried00:19:15
to give you some arguments00:19:16
some thoughts I have probably00:19:18
forgotten some so remember to subscribe if00:19:21
this is not the case and then well here you go00:19:22
share and then here it is 'we exchange00:19:24
that we move forward see you soon friendsDescription:
Dans cette vidéo nous aborderons les différents critères qui nous semblent importants pour vous aider dans le choix d'investissement dans un outil à dent. Bien entendu , rien ne remplace au préalable de définir des objectifs précis qui vous sont personnels et l'outil est juste là pour les remplir. La polyvalence est pour nous un critère très important qui permet de valoriser les sommes importantes investies. Nous passons en revue le choix Porté/semi-porté, les formes de dents,le nivellement, la consolidation, le choix des rouleaux, la finition, les herses etc... N'hésitez pas à commenter, échanger, partager et aussi à vous abonner si vous le souhaitez en activant la petite cloche ! à bientôt les amis ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JLYUYL52Ec&t=4s les déchaumages vidéo 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nySKd4DNVhc&t=18s les déchaumages vidéo 2
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