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hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome
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again to sirana analysis I'm your host K
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alasan thank you very much for tuning in
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to today's live streaming guys I hope
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you are doing well and I see that you're
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very excited to be and to listen Pepe
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Escobar today you are tuning on this
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live streaming from the United States
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from Europe and even from Japan one of
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our uh streamers and viewers says
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watching from Japan at midnight Pepe
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Escobar it's always I'm very happy to
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see your face again on Syrian analysis I
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mean in Arabic we say you
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are you are too famous to be introduced
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and you're you're you're your name pops
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up every day in my live chat when I do
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live streaming when Pepe coming is
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coming to uh seran analysis again and he
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is a very uh busy uh analyst and author
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and he recently also published a new
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book Eurasia versus Natan and if I may
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if I may read the description of the
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book because I was checking it today and
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and in Eurasia versus nater Escobar
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takes us on a whirlwind Journey Through
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the swirling Sands of the 21st centuries
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defining Clash from the ancient Silk
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Roads to the modern day war of economic
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corridors Escobar paints a vivid picture
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of a world in transition where the old
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order is crumbling and the new
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multipolar reality is struggling to be
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born with his nonp pararal blend of
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historical Insight deep cultural
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appreciation and sharp geopolitical
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analysis Escobar exposes the West's
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quote unquote rules based International
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order for the Sham it is a m smokescreen
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for the Empire of chaos to perpetrate
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its forever Wars and plunder the global
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South but the ti is turning led by the
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rasia China strategic partnership a new
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Global majority is rising forging new
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alliances and building alternative
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systems that bypass West's rigged game
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Pepe when I read this description the
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first thing that I noticed is that you
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say the old order is crumbling and I
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totally agree that we can see it in
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front of our eyes it's like slow but you
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can even see it with your own eyes the
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challenges that the United States is
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facing on a geopolitical sphere the ins
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tions that were under the control of the
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United States and we can see that there
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is a new multipolar word is rising but
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this multipolar word is struggling
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according to you as well to be born
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right what are the main challenges if we
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want to start this discussion with you
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the main military and economic
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challenges faced by the proponents of
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the
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multipolarity and how effective is the
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US resistance to the emergence of the
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world order we have the proponents and
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we have the resistance to the emergence
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of the mult bolar word so if we may
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start how how what are the challenges
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first in fact the resistance ofor is by
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the different axis of resistance across
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the multipolar world because this is a
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resistance against a system that is
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impling very very fast and of
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course uh they they simply won't leave
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quietly deep into the night they can
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even cause a global configration because
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they you know resign themselves to the
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fact that they are not predominant power
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anymore and that's where we are
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especially this year I see this year as
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the decisive year for the next few years
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for the next decade for the rest of the
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the century for that matter for many
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reasons uh what will be
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the I wouldn't say the ending but the
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continuation of these two major Wars
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that we're facing at the moment we know
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that one of them has I would say a
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tentative end game in Ukraine which is
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the cosmic humiliation of NATO as I call
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it but the other one is way more complex
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because it involves the let's call them
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the biblical
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Psychopaths on one side
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uh wagging the dog or the dog wagging
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the table we don't know who Wags who in
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the whole thing with the adiman so the
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the very very close relationship between
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Washington and Tel Aviv and on the other
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side what I would say the most important
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exess of resistance of them all which is
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the West Asia AIS of resistance and then
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we find Iran Syria Hezbollah and salala
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in Yemen the militias in Iraq among
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others right so this
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will I would say frame the next few
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months and years what's going to happen
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with these
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two I would say mirror Wars in fact
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because these are
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essentially Imperial Wars even if in
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West Asia it is conducted by this
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unspeakable regime in t Aviv but it's a
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war that it's uh condoned supported
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weaponized by the hamon so the hamon is
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deeply implicated in this war in uh the
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black soil of Nova
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Rosia how I like to call them uh and uh
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I think I I I said this before but I
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always like to repeat it because it's
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it's one of those intuitions that you
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have in the middle of the night and in
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my case it happened when I was deep in
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the dbas reside and I couldn't sleep of
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course too much information to digest
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and he then
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he yeah you know it it rained out like a
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a a z lightning boat yes well this black
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rich black soil of Nova Rosia land of
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miners a land of very very rich soil of
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course that has propelled uh this part
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of Russian land uh to become a not only
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a working class but a middle a solid
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middle class Society all over it's where
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the rules-based um International ORD is
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coming to
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die and of course this may seem too
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radical for many of you watching us but
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when you go to no Rosia when you go to
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dbas when you see what's going on when
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you talk to military MERS when you talk
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to the local people living in donet or
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or even in adeva which I had a chance to
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do last month in
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fact then you see wow you don't mess
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with these people they are so strong
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they have such a profound grasp of their
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history of their moral values of their
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religious values of their patriotic
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values of their linguistic values and
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the fact that they played all always uh
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a very important part in everything that
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happen in Russia for the past few
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centuries and starting with the past
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Century uh the Great Patriotic
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War uh the I would say sorry tragedy in
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Afghanistan where we had a lot of
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Fighters for the
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USSR in Afghanistan and of course since
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2014 the fight against uh the regime in
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KF yes so so so the inter the the the
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local interaction especially in donet I
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became with with two visits this year
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one in March and one one in February and
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another one in March I I'm becoming more
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and more uh like donet is part of me now
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which is something that it was not
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before I had been there only once after
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the the B cauldron in 2015
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but now it's different now now you are
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you make local friends uh you have
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military commanders that trust you that
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you know that tell you stories that it's
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very hard for them to tell Foreigners
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for instance they understand the point
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of view of a foreigner that is deeply
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interested to learn from them to listen
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to them to learn from them which is
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which is our attitude when you when we
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go to dbas so that changes everything it
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becomes personal like uh whoever had I
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would say uh the honor and the tarity to
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have lived in Syria during the war in
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Libya during the war or in Gaza these
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past few decades you know it it becomes
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personal for us that's my case now for
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me now donbas is personal because of
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these personal
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interactions and and nowadays we are
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reaching a point
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where uh even those who have not been
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there and then I I'm talking about the
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so-called self-appointed Elites in the
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in NATO Stan the NATO Stan Universe for
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instance uh Prime foreign minister David
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of Arabia Cameron and French foreign
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minister Stefan SE who never had any
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sort of international uh relations
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experience in his life and now he's the
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foreign minister of France because his
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lover his former lover who is now the
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prime minister of France appointed him
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bebok is also she never had an
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experience in diplom ex is even worse so
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and and then and then they said only a
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few days ago and I'm sure uh many of you
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in the audience remember if Ukraine
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loses we all lose which was probably the
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only rational thing they have said in
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this past few weeks or months you know
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they're starting to get the picture that
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Ukraine will in
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lose and when they say we all lose means
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NATO loses yes and obviously you won't
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see that slab of Norwegian would ever
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admitting it in in person yes but when
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when you look at his body language
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basically this is what he's saying with
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his body language we all know we lost we
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don't have a plan B and we don't know
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what's going to happen next so that's
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where we are at the moment so so that
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makes it even more dangerous
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because then the people who actually
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provoked everything for the past 10
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years including our emonic partners that
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have spent $300 billion dollar in 10
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years which is probably the worst return
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on investment in modern history yes to
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get uh what our friend Andre martinov
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calls a country 404 yeah which is some
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will be right so that makes it even more
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dangerous so so k we not we we're not
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even talking about the danger in West
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Asia so ju just gives you an idea of how
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bad the situation could become if the
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war mongers decide to up the anti in
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Ukraine which they will probably do
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right you know which I disagree with you
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on that they don't have plan B you know
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what's their plan B their plan B is is
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the same plan a and it's repeating the
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same plan a over and over again and
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expecting different results
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yeah in fact you're right Kor because uh
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there was never a plan B as we all
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remember plan a was we provoked them uh
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into a war we destroyed their economy in
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two weeks or months maximum uh our
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armies our NATO armies and NATO trained
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armies will destroy them in a few months
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and then we go there and plunder
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everything like we did in the 90s this
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was plan a and it never changed right
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yes you know uh
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when I follow the situation in Eastern
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Europe I come across something that
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concerns me and this is one of the
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challenges I believe in the rise of
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multipolarity um is the inability of
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China and Russia to sell their project
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to the masses for example the people in
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Syria know what what it means to leave
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under rules based order people in Libya
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know Iraqis no the people in dbas no in
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in Russia no in China no but for example
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when you go to Georgia when you go to
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Armenia which I'm ethnic Armenian and
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you see that uh you have a younger
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generation is impressed uh by the EU
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impressed by becoming westernized
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because westernized yes because it's
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easier to sell the EU project and the EU
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narrative there is not much language
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barrier for example English has become
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an universal language in regard you have
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uh the Americans are selling the their
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cultural view democracy human rights
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movies angos exchange programs the
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English language is not a barrier and I
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speak with uh ukrainians mostly from the
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anti-russian side Armenians nowadays
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Georgians Polish people um and you see
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that uh it's difficult for the Russians
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and the Chinese to sell and and Market
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their Vision in these places because the
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people uh are radically becoming against
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uh for example the Russian uh the
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Russian side and in Armenia you see
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nowadays that they are turning
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themselves into another Pawn against uh
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Russia by be by becoming a NATO vasel
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state right so unless these people
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become a victim of NATO just like the
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the serbs became victim the libyans
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became victims and the America and the
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syrians became victims probably some
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people will not really understand what
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it means to live under American rules
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based order to be subjugated and then
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being used an instrument like
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instrumentalizing them against the enemy
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which is here Russia right and I believe
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the next war is going to be in the
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Caucasus and this time the Armenians are
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going to be victims of this war because
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they will be between aan and turkey and
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the Iranians are not going to tolerate a
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NATO country on the
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borders and the Russians aren't going to
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tolerate that and this is going to be a
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a new opportunity for as you mentioned
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the Empire of chaos to spread its its
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its chaos now in the South Caucasus so
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the people aren't really learning from
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the lessons of the near lessons and the
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historical l so it's very difficult in
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my opinion for the Russians and the
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Chinese to sell their project for these
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few peoples unless they become victims
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of the American hegemony that's an
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excellent point Kor we in fact we could
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write a book about that um first of all
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uh war of narratives who
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controls the
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language that shapes The Narrative
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controls the narrative this is what the
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Americans they are better than anybody
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to do that and with the support of
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course of pop
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culture in fact they sell any narrative
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through pop culture they can sell this
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narrative with the Netflix series with
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the Hollywood Blockbusters with rappers
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you name it it's very very with the um
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refurbished westerns you name it it's
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very very easy and the fact that English
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is not so much a language anymore
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English is an operating system mhm so
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and of course because they invented the
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operating system all the upgrades they
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make the upgrades as well and everybody
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else has to adapt yes so that that
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brings us to the first problem which is
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the Lost in Translation
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problem if we have puting lavro Maria
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zacharova who are absolutely first class
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communicators not to mention siin ping
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huning in China uh the the the the
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officials at the Ministry of Foreign
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Relations in China were getting better
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and better yes they may say something
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absolutely extraordinary and usually
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they do and practically on a daily basis
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but the Lost in Translation problem once
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again this is something that I discussed
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face Toof face very closely with
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Iranians and of course Iranians
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are rightly so very proud of the farsy
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language which is absolutely outstanding
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is extremely sophisticated but I was
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trying to argue with them look you need
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to fine tune your message not only to
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West Asia but to the rest of the global
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South as well obviously and you have to
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turn the operating system upside down to
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your benefits so don't be afraid to use
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English to communicate your message the
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same applies to Russia and the same app
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applies to China of of course it's
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extremely difficult because uh it's in
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built in these
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three major
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civilizations Persia Russia and China uh
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the weight of their amazing past their
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accomplishments of course their history
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and obviously in built in all that is
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the power of their language yes so they
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would they would have to let's put it
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this way betray their language so they
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can reach you know a a much vaster
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audience all across the world yes in
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fact that's the case but you have to be
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pragmatic and
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nowadays uh the soft power win is
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basically in in the pr field it's
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basically in social media in social
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networks and the fact that people will
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be talking about what you said yes they
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cannot talk about what you said if you
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say it in in unfortunately unfortunately
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it's only in the Chinese sphere okay
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it's big enough because that includes
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the Chinese diaspora so then it's not
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only 1.3 billion people in China it's
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another at least another 150 million all
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over the world you know uh Russia is the
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same thing that's the Russian diaspora
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much smaller and Persia even Iran even
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smaller than that but you have to use
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the uh the weapons of the enemy against
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against the and this extrapolates to
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geoeconomics which go goes back to the
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beginning of your first uh observation
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in our conversation you have to turn GE
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economics upside down to the profit of
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the bricks to the profit of the global
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majority which is something that Serge
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Lov himself now he refers to the rest of
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the world which is the majority as the
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global majority it's absolutely correct
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conceptually correct all of us we are
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the global majority uh the problem is we
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don't control the system we don't
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establish the rules and we don't uh
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tweak the rules-based order like the
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Edon does and the International
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Financial system yes because the people
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who are the main articulators and the
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main nodes of the International
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Financial system they are emonic nodes
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and they're vassels ET P everywhere
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around so you know it's a it's a
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geopolitical economic and cultural
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challenge at the same time it's that's
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what makes it so hard to uh this drive
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towards multipolarity it's much much
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harder than any of us suspect or
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expect Pepe if I may only ask you a
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technical thing can you can you bring
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your uh microphone to the middle of your
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shirt because it's hitting your shirt
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from this
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side the right side the right
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on where the microphone is just bring it
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here like in the no there's no
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microphone I think maybe it's my Buddha
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okay my My Buddha is interfering with
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our conversation believe
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that the Buddha is saying look
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what you have to pay attention to the
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power of Buddhism
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[Laughter]
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ofm you know as you mentioned this
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language barrier thing it's very
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important because when the war started
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in Syria uh the the per the former
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permanent Envoy of Syria to the un uh he
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changed this tradition of speaking only
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in Arabic and he started speaking in and
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then he started speaking in English
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because this was an existential War it
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was an existential War so he wanted to
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deliver the message in English so that
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they public can understand him and I
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would just quote him he he quoted najib
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Mah he's Egyptian uh late Egyptian
00:26:00
writer and he bril you know what he told
00:26:03
brilliant yes he quoted najib M um when
00:26:08
he wanted to criticize the Western
00:26:09
officials when the Western officials
00:26:11
were trying to intervene in Syria and he
00:26:13
said um they are liars and they know
00:26:17
they are liars and they know that we
00:26:19
know that they are liars even so they
00:26:22
keep lying very loudly so this this was
00:26:25
a quotee from najib Mah and I found it
00:26:27
really beautiful then Pepe the
00:26:30
collective West now I if I want to play
00:26:32
The Devils Advocate
00:26:33
right the collective West and the rules
00:26:36
based order stands yeah naked in front
00:26:39
of the general public especially after
00:26:41
the Gaza Onslaught but you argue in your
00:26:44
book that the tide is turning against
00:26:46
the empire of chaos and it's forever
00:26:48
Worth to plunder the global South but
00:26:51
the other side uh in the NATO side or
00:26:54
those who dislike Russia and China they
00:26:56
say why would someone uh who stands for
00:26:59
example in the middle pick Russia and
00:27:01
China where when Russia is occupying
00:27:05
Ukraine and and China is trying to bring
00:27:08
Taiwan back to the mainland so they're
00:27:11
also they also have imperialistic
00:27:13
Tendencies right and also they are going
00:27:16
for example to places like in Africa and
00:27:18
investing there and pushing them into
00:27:20
depths and they they they they they they
00:27:25
point out to these power as also
00:27:28
imperialist powers and we we see how
00:27:30
this term has been normalized again
00:27:33
after the Ukraine war referring to
00:27:36
Russia as an imperialist power and also
00:27:38
China as an imperialist power [ __ ]
00:27:41
total bu this proves first of all uh
00:27:44
many things these people don't
00:27:46
travel not only they don't travel to
00:27:49
Russia and to China and to different
00:27:52
regions of Russia and China and to uh
00:27:57
very very specific specific places in
00:27:59
the post Soviet sphere or in case of
00:28:02
china they don't even go to sing Jang
00:28:04
for that matter to see what real life is
00:28:07
in sing Jang for that matter not to
00:28:09
mention they don't travel in Africa and
00:28:11
they don't talk to Africans and they
00:28:13
don't talk to Africans who try to try to
00:28:16
uh explain to foreigners the positive
00:28:19
role of China Investing
00:28:21
in I would say between 70 and 80% of
00:28:25
African nations so uh well I get this
00:28:29
kind of [ __ ] on my inbox every day
00:28:32
to uh in it's a tsunami every day that
00:28:37
it I wake up in the morning I said oh no
00:28:40
not again it's and it's all there uh the
00:28:43
headlines are all I only read the the
00:28:46
headlines nowadays you know it's all
00:28:48
there and it's the same uh Russian
00:28:51
aggression uh Chinese um genocide in
00:28:55
sing Jang uh the death trap
00:28:58
not only in Africa but in every single H
00:29:02
project related to the new Silk Roads
00:29:05
the belon road initiative it's it's
00:29:06
always the same
00:29:08
thing uh there are two possibilities one
00:29:10
we waste most of our working lives
00:29:13
trying to counteract this stupidity and
00:29:17
second we ignore them I'm part of the
00:29:20
Let's ignore them Bunch now I I have no
00:29:22
time for that anymore first of all
00:29:24
because we have to work and we have to
00:29:26
explain to our readers and our audiences
00:29:29
everywhere what's really happening in
00:29:33
Russia in China in Africa the
00:29:35
interactions of the global CS which are
00:29:37
very complex the notes of the global CS
00:29:41
that the Edon is trying to exploit
00:29:44
divide and Rule style to prevent you
00:29:47
know a smooth drive towards
00:29:49
multipolarity and this is becoming more
00:29:52
and more complex as you mentioned one of
00:29:55
these key nodes is the Caucasus yes W
00:29:58
which is there's no question about it
00:30:01
would be number one C candidate for
00:30:03
another hardcore hybrid War color
00:30:07
Revolution all of the above the other
00:30:10
one is Central Asia and especially the
00:30:14
most vulnerable uh STS which would be
00:30:18
Tajikistan
00:30:20
andan more more Tajikistan than Kyan is
00:30:24
Kyan because Kyan is still infested with
00:30:27
Atlantis every time that I go there I I
00:30:29
never cease to be amazed by it in
00:30:32
Tajikistan which uh my last time in
00:30:34
Tajikistan was before Co I would like to
00:30:37
come back as soon as possible especially
00:30:39
after crocus and H Tajikistan is much
00:30:44
more complicated
00:30:46
but the
00:30:48
interconnection of Isis and Isis K with
00:30:53
Tajikistan is much more advanced than in
00:30:56
the other STS it's not by accident that
00:31:00
the people who were recruited for crocos
00:31:02
they were tajiks because there are uh uh
00:31:08
Isis and Isis K connections online
00:31:12
tajiks and
00:31:14
tajik uh preachers let's put it this way
00:31:18
who are who have an enormous influence
00:31:20
online in Tajikistan and it's very easy
00:31:23
to recruit unemployed tajiks who remain
00:31:27
in tajik instead of trying to find a job
00:31:29
in Moscow for instance it's very funny
00:31:31
because every time every time that I
00:31:32
take a tax in Moscow which is every day
00:31:35
the driver is either kiris or tajik and
00:31:38
we usually start a mini conversation ah
00:31:41
D and all that and they love it of
00:31:43
course and they all say the same thing
00:31:45
as say yeah we came here because there
00:31:46
are no jobs over
00:31:48
there wow so so th this is okay so this
00:31:51
is the second F and the third uh Focus
00:31:54
could be Pakistan and the that Pakistan
00:31:58
and Theon will never allow Iran and
00:32:02
Pakistan to have closer relations even
00:32:05
now that they are especially now that
00:32:06
they are both members of the Shanghai
00:32:08
cooperation organization so that's why
00:32:10
we're starting to hear and we're
00:32:12
starting to see almost on a monthly
00:32:15
basis something happened in baluchistan
00:32:17
because that's where the CIA has been
00:32:19
since forever and that's where is very
00:32:22
easy to pit Sunni extremists on one side
00:32:27
uh linked to Isis to Shiite extremist on
00:32:30
the other side yes so so these are only
00:32:33
three of the focuses that the aamon will
00:32:36
be working on not to mention all across
00:32:39
Africa South America for instance now
00:32:41
that they are going to get uh US Naval
00:32:45
Base in southern Argentina so in terms
00:32:49
of the Edon this is better than
00:32:52
Christmas in July really they get their
00:32:56
uh asset elected
00:32:58
they get their asset to practically
00:33:01
break relations with Brazil and refuse
00:33:04
to enter
00:33:06
bricks uh the asset antagonizes China
00:33:10
the asset antagonizes Russia and on top
00:33:13
of it he you know the the the commander
00:33:16
of the south Com Laura Laura not Laura
00:33:20
the the the Laura of that famous
00:33:22
Hollywood moviein tyy Laura Richardson
00:33:24
goes to wua in southern Argentina and M
00:33:27
Lake catches a plane to kiss her feet
00:33:30
and said okay you're going to open your
00:33:32
naval military base here anytime
00:33:35
darling so you know so and we have
00:33:38
Ecuador as well so you know it's very
00:33:41
easy for the Edon to dist stabilize
00:33:44
South America which would be a lesson
00:33:48
for the Armenians yes you see what
00:33:51
happens when you are embraced by the
00:33:53
hamon willingly or not willingly okay
00:33:57
here here's what's happened since the
00:33:59
60s you know do a little bit of homework
00:34:02
of Latin especially South America as uh
00:34:06
the backyard of the ad so this would
00:34:08
teach the the Armenians a few things
00:34:10
about you know uh the West is the next
00:34:14
big thing no it's not and uh I seriously
00:34:19
uh I'm really really sorry I I also have
00:34:23
a uh let's say an emotional connection
00:34:27
with Armenia via Armenians that I met
00:34:29
since I was a kid in fact and the fact
00:34:33
that they could have a wonderful pass
00:34:36
integrated in the Eurasia economic Union
00:34:39
having good relations with Russia
00:34:42
there's an Armenian diaspora in Russia
00:34:44
working in Russia Pro Progressive
00:34:46
businessman you know very well and and
00:34:49
now they're choosing what
00:34:52
basically Ukraine did in
00:34:55
2014 yeah also antagonizing Anan Iran
00:34:59
is this is the friendliest the
00:35:01
friendliest country for
00:35:05
for V Armenia you're right
00:35:08
exactly well but this was what pashinian
00:35:12
was supposed to be doing from the
00:35:13
beginning right so now he's delivering
00:35:17
actually this is why he came to power in
00:35:20
20 after the color Revolution and uh
00:35:24
people now ask me why am I not speaking
00:35:26
much about Arman because it's very
00:35:28
depressing to speak about Armenia in
00:35:30
this climate when in 2018 I warned
00:35:33
against this color Revolution you get
00:35:35
accused of being a conspiracy theorist
00:35:38
and then I said in 2020 when the war
00:35:40
started in karak that he will lose this
00:35:43
war and then if he loses this war he
00:35:45
will lose the buffer zone between
00:35:47
Armenia and aeran and then aeran will
00:35:50
start moving inside Armenia I was yeah
00:35:53
and I was called a paranoid but now I
00:35:55
don't see there is any any barrier left
00:35:59
for aaban to occupy Armenia and um the
00:36:03
national spirit is broken any n any
00:36:06
person who believes in Armenian national
00:36:09
identity is being equated to fascist and
00:36:12
fascism you know this uh very cliche
00:36:16
accusations and uh the government in
00:36:19
Armenia has a strong grip over the state
00:36:22
institutions now pashinyan kicked out
00:36:25
all the competent generals officers in
00:36:27
he pointed his uh people in the Army in
00:36:29
the security so in my opinion Armenia is
00:36:33
heading toward the very very dark times
00:36:35
and this is why it's depressing for me
00:36:37
because as much as you speak it's not
00:36:39
going to change anything what by by
00:36:41
talking the opposition has to do
00:36:43
something about it and they're very weak
00:36:45
to do anything about it so I see that
00:36:48
when the other day the Editor in Chief
00:36:51
of RT simonian when she's Armenian and
00:36:55
she said in five years there may not be
00:36:58
Armenia on the map and she received lots
00:37:01
of backlash about that and I think
00:37:03
sometimes she say things but she's
00:37:05
probably correct uh people need to
00:37:08
understand the severity and
00:37:10
the severity of the issue if aan or
00:37:13
turkey attack Armenia Armenians don't
00:37:15
have a chance against exact so they need
00:37:20
a deterrent power who is the deterrent
00:37:22
power do they think that the United
00:37:23
States will come and fight for them no
00:37:26
do they think the French would come
00:37:27
fight for them no so the alternative
00:37:31
which was the um the the Russians that
00:37:35
have base there they will be kicked out
00:37:38
soon uh by Armenia so basically you are
00:37:41
just shooting yourself in the leg Yeah
00:37:43
in this in this case which is which is a
00:37:46
classic in the in the global South isn't
00:37:49
it kavor yeah it's it's the story of the
00:37:52
global South since the the first wave of
00:37:55
decolonization in fact yeah
00:37:58
everywhere I received a question from an
00:38:02
audience says Pepe in the middle of may
00:38:05
all of Natan Defender 2024 maneuver will
00:38:08
be all around Russia's borders you think
00:38:11
they will still be tempted now after one
00:38:14
said China will not sit idle and watch
00:38:18
um I haven't seen this statement from
00:38:20
the foreign Ministry of China and um
00:38:24
what do you think about it uh this uh
00:38:26
are they going to do a military maneuver
00:38:30
uh in the surroundings of fussia no
00:38:33
they're testing the waters first first
00:38:36
of all because okay uh we can always
00:38:39
assume that there are some uh NATO
00:38:41
generals with the brain not many but
00:38:43
there are but there are just like the
00:38:45
Pentagon there are and some retired ones
00:38:50
who have seen who have lived the Cold
00:38:52
War and remember the Cold War these
00:38:54
people uh have much more common sense no
00:38:58
h they know how NATO is
00:39:03
demilitarized uh the national armies
00:39:06
that compose NATO are a joke apart maybe
00:39:09
from Turkey maybe the other ones are an
00:39:12
absolute joke and and this this is a
00:39:15
matter of a discussion now even here in
00:39:18
in
00:39:19
Paris uh and uh and Ukraine of course
00:39:23
would be the most important NATO Army of
00:39:26
them all decimated
00:39:28
yeah uh so even if they have what
00:39:31
100,000 NATO soldiers on the borders of
00:39:33
Russia what are they going to do well
00:39:36
Russia has Russia can come up with
00:39:38
another 500,000 which are in the in the
00:39:44
rear in a Flash if they want to and it's
00:39:47
not about number of soldiers about
00:39:50
weapons and who's got the weapons and
00:39:52
who's got the weapons that make a
00:39:54
difference it's Russia in a in all
00:39:57
across the Spectrum and every good
00:40:00
military analyst knows that obviously
00:40:03
not those people in in the Beltway of
00:40:05
course so they're testing the waters and
00:40:08
and obviously they are selling this to
00:40:11
uh European public opinion as ah NATO is
00:40:15
worried about our safety uh we are
00:40:18
trying to prevent further instances of
00:40:20
Russian aggression that's why we have
00:40:22
these exercises Etc so basically this is
00:40:25
another PR move right
00:40:28
but of course it's dangerous
00:40:30
because when it comes to uh who runs
00:40:34
NATO this is not the number
00:40:37
one ah in the list of priorities this is
00:40:41
not priority number one priority number
00:40:43
one is already shifting towards China
00:40:46
yes and everybody knows that not only in
00:40:49
the B way but depending on the next
00:40:52
Administration in Washington and and the
00:40:56
fact that the neocon
00:40:58
who organized the whole thing in Russia
00:41:01
are not directly related to the push
00:41:05
against China but then we have another
00:41:07
set of
00:41:09
neocons but it still is the same thing
00:41:12
plus of course a great deal of the
00:41:15
establishment because the case of china
00:41:17
is much more complicated Russia it's not
00:41:20
that Russia is going to become the next
00:41:22
economic superpower tomorrow China is
00:41:25
already already the economic superpower
00:41:28
in the world by PPP and the number one
00:41:32
trading partner of virtually the whole
00:41:35
planet this is already a fact and that
00:41:39
for and then we're talking about the
00:41:41
American establishment you mean the the
00:41:43
ru the real ruling class in the US the
00:41:46
guys who we can say run the show and
00:41:50
that's what terrifies them you know said
00:41:54
that's much more complicated so we
00:41:56
should be paying much more attention to
00:41:58
the South China Sea in fact as the
00:42:01
Chinese are doing it all right but the
00:42:04
great thing is whatever happens in these
00:42:08
two
00:42:09
different uh nodes of the chessboard the
00:42:12
Russia China strategic partnership they
00:42:15
are gaming all scenarios and the the
00:42:17
meeting this week between lav and wangi
00:42:21
in Beijing and then with lavro and
00:42:23
sigining in person Fant you know so this
00:42:26
is an
00:42:27
s ping receives LA and talks to him face
00:42:30
to face he doesn't do that with other
00:42:32
foreign ministers it's only LA and
00:42:35
nobody else you know you'll never do
00:42:37
this for instance with Janar from India
00:42:40
never but with LA is another story and
00:42:43
the fact that they are coordinating
00:42:45
everything for instance between
00:42:47
yesterday and today we received the
00:42:50
confirmation on the record of something
00:42:53
that in my latest column I just put it
00:42:56
in diplomatic
00:42:58
commas that the Russians and the
00:43:00
Iranians are talking all the time about
00:43:03
the Iranian response to the attack
00:43:05
against the Consulate in it's obvious
00:43:08
obviously of course you you won't have a
00:43:12
direct tet admission on on both sides in
00:43:15
fact the fact that riabov that this on
00:43:18
the record today is already extremely
00:43:22
important he said we are
00:43:24
discussing all possible ramification
00:43:27
ations with our Iranian colleagues which
00:43:29
is a I would say an indirect message to
00:43:33
the Israelis and the Americans as well
00:43:35
yes look whatever you do you won't be
00:43:38
attacking Iran you'll be attacking us
00:43:40
yes as the attack in against uh Iran in
00:43:46
Damascus was an attack against bricks as
00:43:49
well I I made the point of this is very
00:43:53
clear this is an in terms of an attack
00:43:55
on a diplomatic mission protected by the
00:43:57
Vienna convention this was an attack on
00:44:00
everyone that is a member of bricks and
00:44:02
the Shanghai operational organization at
00:44:03
the same time considering that this is
00:44:06
an out of control biblical psychotic
00:44:10
foolish how foolish is this and how
00:44:12
foolish is that but they could attack
00:44:14
any Embassy or Consulate of any British
00:44:17
member tomorrow if they see fit for
00:44:19
their crazy agenda it is it's it's
00:44:22
beyond foolish uh there's only one
00:44:26
rational explanation for that it's
00:44:29
because they want an escalation and they
00:44:31
want to drag the Americans into their
00:44:34
escalation and of course there are still
00:44:36
some people with a brain in DC that are
00:44:38
saying no we don't need a hot war in
00:44:41
West Asia in an elal
00:44:44
year they some of them got the picture
00:44:48
the problem is the Frankenstein in West
00:44:52
Asia is totally out of control
00:44:54
especially now that they for all
00:44:56
practical purposes on a military level
00:44:59
and on the point of view of decimating
00:45:02
Hamas they already
00:45:04
lost and it's obvious to anyone that
00:45:07
they lost so they need to change the
00:45:09
subject and changing the subject of
00:45:11
course they up the anti that's what they
00:45:13
always do and it was not an attack
00:45:15
against Hezbollah it was a direct attack
00:45:18
against Iran so this is up up in the
00:45:20
anti up there you know they they never
00:45:23
did this before this proves how
00:45:25
absolutely desperate they are at the
00:45:27
moment and that's what that that's
00:45:29
what's dangerous for all of us because
00:45:32
we run the and now of course uh a few
00:45:36
days
00:45:37
ago uh of course this this was never
00:45:41
admitted directly but there was a rumor
00:45:46
that the Americans were discussing with
00:45:49
the Iranians indirectly via Switzerland
00:45:52
and Via Oman exchanging guarantees look
00:45:57
if you want to respond to what happened
00:45:59
in Damascus it's okay as long as you
00:46:01
don't hit our bases and our assets no
00:46:05
that's not true today we have a
00:46:07
different narrative saying that the US
00:46:11
is fully behind whatever Israel does
00:46:14
which is what it was from the begin
00:46:17
everybody knows that this is what they
00:46:19
do so if Israel decides to Counterattack
00:46:23
a possible Iranian response the
00:46:25
Americans will be behind it as well yes
00:46:27
and that's what makes it so dangerous
00:46:29
because now it re it really uh what
00:46:33
everybody was fearing this past few
00:46:35
months this thing cannot extrapolate
00:46:38
towards a regional War now we are in
00:46:41
front of it
00:46:43
right Pepe you you mentioned the United
00:46:45
States is also behind this attack I just
00:46:47
want to screen this article uh because
00:46:50
you're 100% correct and this is not from
00:46:53
an Iranian report or this is from the is
00:46:57
Israel coordinates and gets approval
00:47:00
from us on some
00:47:02
Syria some yeah I mean I
00:47:05
mean they do they do coordinate with the
00:47:09
this was from 2022 they do coordinate
00:47:11
because the Americans have forces there
00:47:13
and sometimes the Americans even um
00:47:15
activate their jamming technology in
00:47:17
alternative water crossing to Blind the
00:47:19
Syrian Radars exactly they they're
00:47:22
cooperating together this is not only an
00:47:24
Israeli attack this is also an American
00:47:26
particip in an attack on a sovereign um
00:47:30
Embassy on an embassy of a Sovereign
00:47:32
Nation on a sovereign in the third
00:47:35
country of a Sovereign Nation this is
00:47:37
beyond imagination what what what they
00:47:39
have done I I just want to mention a few
00:47:41
things because you said this is an
00:47:43
attack on bricks and just be two days
00:47:47
before the Russian offensive on uh
00:47:50
Ukraine the Russian defense minister was
00:47:52
in Syria yes and if I want to interpret
00:47:55
it from my point of view I don't know
00:47:56
know what happened there but I would
00:47:58
argue and say that speculate that the
00:48:00
Russian defense minister said you have
00:48:02
to hold your grounds now in Syria you're
00:48:05
at the Forefront of this hold your
00:48:06
grounds there and now the foreign
00:48:09
minister of uh Iran abdan was in
00:48:14
Damascus and he from Damascus he said
00:48:16
that they're going to punish uh Israel
00:48:19
so this is going this is this is like in
00:48:23
a group of nations are coordinating
00:48:25
their actions and actions and this is
00:48:27
unprecedented people need to see the
00:48:29
bigger picture here how these countries
00:48:31
are cooperating between each other
00:48:34
against uh one enemy and that is the
00:48:37
United States and here Israel is part in
00:48:40
my opinion it's just a part of this
00:48:42
bigger game and it's part of the Empire
00:48:45
so you see that Israel is acting like um
00:48:48
when when the dinosaurs were demising
00:48:51
and at the end of the day they're just
00:48:54
with fire trying to kill everyone and
00:48:58
before before they extinct and I I only
00:49:00
mean the political entity of Israel I
00:49:04
believe that Hamas attack was the timing
00:49:07
was not uh a coincidence like when
00:49:11
Russia was achieving victories in
00:49:14
Ukraine and the Americans are no more
00:49:17
able to finance the war in the way they
00:49:19
used to finance it in in in the first
00:49:22
year and they see that the Americans are
00:49:24
printing money to sustain this war now
00:49:26
second war in the Middle East will drain
00:49:29
the United States completely and they
00:49:31
dragged Israel into very very costly War
00:49:34
here and now the Americans have to see
00:49:36
which war they have to invest in it's
00:49:40
either in Ukraine or in the Middle East
00:49:42
right and they chose now the Middle East
00:49:45
and they're losing big time that's a
00:49:47
strategic war in Ukraine and they're
00:49:49
going to lose now what what Hamas and
00:49:51
hisbah have done in this war also Iran
00:49:55
and Syria and the Yemen
00:49:57
they actually
00:49:59
destroyed the pillars of Israel what was
00:50:02
what are the pillars of Israel one of
00:50:03
which is it's a safe haven for the
00:50:05
Jewish people around the world it's no
00:50:07
more a safe hav AA of invincibility as
00:50:09
well exactly so Israel lost its
00:50:12
deterrence and that's why they are
00:50:14
bombing the hell out of Gaza but this
00:50:16
will not restore deterrence and the
00:50:19
enemies of Israel have become so
00:50:22
emboldened especially on the front of
00:50:24
hisbah on thei for examp example front
00:50:27
that the Israelis do not have the
00:50:29
military capability to strike a decisive
00:50:33
Victory against them I mean what is
00:50:35
stopping Israel from going to war into
00:50:37
Lebanon in the past they were cruising
00:50:40
in Lebanon in the morning they wake up
00:50:42
and they want to go to Lebanon in the
00:50:44
afternoon they are already uh past half
00:50:47
of Lebanon in the 80s in the 90s what is
00:50:50
stopping them now from going into war
00:50:52
against Lebanon they know it's going to
00:50:54
be much worse than 2006 it's going to be
00:50:57
they know they're going to be devastated
00:50:59
and this is something that I I saw for
00:51:02
myself Kor when I visited that border
00:51:06
the southern Lebanon border all the way
00:51:08
to the tri border where you are on the
00:51:10
hills and you are you are in southern
00:51:13
Lebanon you have occupied Palestine on
00:51:15
the other side of the fence and you have
00:51:17
the the Syrian mountains on your left so
00:51:20
when I was there I I I you look at the
00:51:23
geography and you talk to the local
00:51:26
people in local villages in southern
00:51:28
Liber you understand everything uh it's
00:51:32
it's I would say it's a sort of mirror
00:51:33
image of dombas you know you you don't
00:51:37
mess with this people not to mention
00:51:39
that they are armed to the hilt they
00:51:42
will defend every inch of the territory
00:51:45
uh there is a a network of defenses all
00:51:48
over the Israelis don't stand a chance
00:51:52
if they try uh it's great to see it in
00:51:55
front of you because then you have the
00:51:57
you have the feel of the land as well
00:51:59
and the feeling in the air as well so uh
00:52:02
they know that this
00:52:04
uh which is ridiculous they are always
00:52:07
saying ah we're going to expel H
00:52:09
Hezbollah 50 kilometers North all the
00:52:12
way to the Lan River it's a not
00:52:16
even everybody knows it's stupid but
00:52:20
push them away 50 k from the EXA exactly
00:52:25
so uh but Iran is a completely different
00:52:28
story because Iran we get into the realm
00:52:32
of uh an absolutely crazy
00:52:36
Obsession then then it it's a
00:52:39
psychopathological phenomenon in fact
00:52:41
that you know real men go remember real
00:52:43
men go to thean at the time of ramsfield
00:52:46
and chain right yeah which was almost a
00:52:49
it's crazy almost 20 years ago they were
00:52:51
talking about this in 2005 2006 almost
00:52:55
20 years ago but this is the mindset of
00:52:58
the neocons and the zons real men go to
00:53:01
thean and that's the way they
00:53:04
interpreted this is their opening now
00:53:07
okay we attack their conly they're going
00:53:09
to respond and then we attack their
00:53:12
nuclear installations which by the way
00:53:13
they're all buried and they don't even
00:53:15
know where they are and the Americans
00:53:16
are going to help us this is the way
00:53:18
they
00:53:20
think today there was an article in the
00:53:23
New York Times I believe that they say
00:53:25
that Iran has enriched uranium to extent
00:53:27
that they can now develop tree nuclear
00:53:29
weapons I don't know how accurate yeah I
00:53:31
read that it's also [ __ ] because
00:53:33
this is
00:53:35
speculative everything that they say is
00:53:37
speculative yeah they don't have inside
00:53:40
int they don't have inside Intel uh for
00:53:43
instance in Teran in that nuclear plant
00:53:46
in Isfahan for instance they don't have
00:53:48
it they don't
00:53:50
know yes go ahead go ahead no I I know
00:53:55
but uh it's very hard to strike uh an
00:53:58
auspicious uh tone in the middle of
00:54:01
we're talking about Doom and Gloom seral
00:54:04
Doom and Gloom right yeah I mean I can I
00:54:07
can listen to you forever um and this is
00:54:11
uh but I have to ask you the last
00:54:13
question I I I want to know I want to
00:54:16
know if you agree with this notion
00:54:17
because Iran will respond definitely it
00:54:20
there is no way that they will respond
00:54:23
and the complicated thing is that has to
00:54:26
be so it's such a complex decision kavor
00:54:31
it has to be carefully
00:54:34
calculated strong
00:54:36
decisive uh
00:54:38
rational at the same time and of course
00:54:41
they cannot lose face if it's not strong
00:54:45
enough and they they cannot go overboard
00:54:48
because then yes all bats are off so you
00:54:51
can imagine how difficult it is and now
00:54:55
especially because they put put their
00:54:57
hands on the table because ayat himself
00:55:00
already said there will be a response
00:55:02
inside Israel you think the response
00:55:05
it's a very good question I I would say
00:55:08
that they would calculate to do it
00:55:10
outside of Israel to minimize the
00:55:14
response so this this would be
00:55:16
symmetrical if it's outside of Israel if
00:55:19
it's inside of Israel then we have
00:55:22
hardcore Hot War right away I mean the
00:55:26
Iranians are already if you see it from
00:55:29
uh objective lens they are achieving
00:55:31
slow but very effective uh achievements
00:55:35
in the region and if you see it from the
00:55:38
20 to 30 years from now Iran is going to
00:55:41
overcome the influence of the Americans
00:55:43
and the Israelis in the region by
00:55:45
playing a very let's say patient Chase
00:55:49
uh chess with with the with the enemies
00:55:51
they don't need to go to war and rush
00:55:53
into war NASA said that we we win over
00:55:57
the enemy probably without even uh
00:55:59
fighting against him in a direct war and
00:56:01
this is the what they call the Strategic
00:56:03
patience so I trully agree with you that
00:56:05
they don't want to go into direct war
00:56:07
against Israel and give them the um
00:56:09
again the justification to retaliate and
00:56:11
then another retaliation and the
00:56:13
Americans come but let's see I mean it's
00:56:16
going to be in this probably in this two
00:56:17
weeks and I don't think it will be um
00:56:21
very far away from now and it's going to
00:56:23
be very interesting to see that why ABD
00:56:26
also came to uh Damascus to coordinate
00:56:29
is it going to be on the golen heights
00:56:31
probably because golen Heights is
00:56:32
considered Syrian territory it's Syrian
00:56:35
territory very very important that that
00:56:38
would be I would say if we have a list
00:56:41
of a top three of uh best return for
00:56:45
investment I would put number one col
00:56:47
heights yeah yeah me too I'm of course
00:56:52
no especially because the resonance
00:56:54
around West Asia would be
00:56:56
enormous and for public opinion
00:56:59
everywhere in West Asia and in the
00:57:02
middle of the aess of resistance as well
00:57:04
will be massive massive but all that uh
00:57:09
um kavor very important General San yeah
00:57:14
he thought it all out I never see to be
00:57:19
impressed and you know this is something
00:57:21
that they told me in southern Lebanon
00:57:24
the last time I was there that his that
00:57:27
nazala looked at solman like this you
00:57:31
know he had immense respect to Sol money
00:57:34
as a strategist and a long-term
00:57:37
strategist and it's not by accident that
00:57:40
the Gen the irgc general that was killed
00:57:43
in Damascus he was implementing soloney I
00:57:46
said he was a sort of soloney 2.0 yes
00:57:50
it's not an an an accident as well so
00:57:54
you you can see how dangerous for Israel
00:57:58
this guy was yes okay it doesn't matter
00:58:02
if you kill him and it doesn't matter if
00:58:04
you killed soy because the process that
00:58:07
was designed by solmani yeah keeps going
00:58:10
on exactly as you described it it's a
00:58:13
slowly boiling the my friends from the
00:58:16
cradle in Beirut they brilliantly
00:58:18
described it slowly boiling the
00:58:22
Frog sham and the rest they are doing
00:58:24
amazing job the
00:58:26
yeah guys it it goes without saying that
00:58:29
the book the new book of Pepe Escobar
00:58:32
you can order them order it now online I
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00:58:56
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book it's an American publisher I mean
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nowadays it's a very uh it's very
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difficult to convince people that you
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are independent because um the other
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state in the United States and it's uh
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long hands everywhere so they think that
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everyone is getting paid like them you
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know and no I've been accused by the
01:00:18
German mainstream press that I'm the
01:00:20
right hand of Assad and they asked me
01:00:22
who is paying me to make these videos I
01:00:24
said look I have my
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I record I edit I publish I do
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everything alone I do the job of three
01:00:31
four journalists I I just learned this
01:00:33
skills by time so they get oh my God how
01:00:36
is it possible nobody's uh working you
01:00:38
know with you and they no I'm just alone
01:00:41
so that's the beauty of
01:00:43
independent why we scar them kavor yeah
01:00:46
it is a scary in my opinion that's why
01:00:48
also scary exactly because we have
01:00:51
initiative uh you know we have our
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networks we learn how to do things uh
01:00:56
yeah uh we try to explain in detail for
01:00:59
our audiences everywhere what's going on
01:01:02
the opposite of what they do exactly uh
01:01:04
it's very important to stick with your
01:01:06
values and defend uh defend it and also
01:01:10
try to uh do a type of work that can
01:01:13
encourage peace and this is the reason
01:01:15
why I created this channel because they
01:01:17
Sorry [ __ ] my country have the country
01:01:20
was destroyed and I wanted to tell the
01:01:22
the people the truth about what's
01:01:23
happening and then in Ukraine in Taiwan
01:01:26
in uh Afghanistan around the world Pepe
01:01:29
this was an amazing chat with you I
01:01:31
really appreciate you dedicated this
01:01:32
time we hads of people watching us live
01:01:35
today and we will keep in touch if you
01:01:38
come to Berlin please hit me up okay
01:01:41
absolutely I'm I'm trying to escape to
01:01:44
Nato St maybe next
01:01:46
week hopefully guys thank you Pepe I
01:01:50
will come to you guys tomorrow again on
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a new live streaming at 5:00 p.m.
01:01:54
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American time peace be upon you upon
01:01:58
your families Salam

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