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Arnaud GIS when he disappears one evening in00:00:40
July 2010 his partner Mélanie00:00:42
immediately panics all night00:00:45
outside while two children are tenting her at00:00:48
home and the third is about to00:00:49
to be born impossible it is not00:00:51
in Arnaud's habits unless he is00:00:54
hiding something from her Mélanie00:00:56
knows his past as a petty criminal00:00:58
she knows that he has already served time in prison00:01:00
would he have gone back into prison it is also the00:01:03
question asked by the gendarmes when00:01:05
they discover her body deep in the00:01:07
woods the affair begins she will take00:01:10
a mother to prison and break up an00:01:13
entire family00:01:17
Saturday July 10, 201000:01:20
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Mélanie Fleury was 8 months pregnant00:01:25
when she presents himself at the gendarmerie00:01:27
of L'Aigle in Orne00:01:30
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his partner Arnaud has disappeared so00:01:36
according to him he left the home00:01:39
around 10:30 p.m. on Friday evening00:01:41
apparently to go have a drink00:01:44
in a bar in l'aigle the town where they00:01:46
live00:01:48
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the next morning she is surprised because00:01:53
she does not see her partner come back,00:01:55
according to her he should have returned during00:01:56
the night00:01:58
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a little bit she makes two or three00:02:01
phone calls he sees that he doesn't answer the00:02:03
phone, he00:02:04
starts to worry, he shows up00:02:07
at our premises around 1 p.m.,00:02:11
this is the first time that the father of00:02:13
these two children is one who is00:02:15
about to be born, leaves them00:02:17
without news,00:02:19
they describe our situation to us. juice as in a00:02:22
good father apparently they seem00:02:25
happy they bought a house00:02:26
not long ago on the heights of00:02:28
the commune of l'aigle00:02:30
she sees no reason which would justify00:02:33
a hasty departure00:02:38
Mélanie calls me she is looking for Arnaud00:02:40
so for my part I'm trying to00:02:42
contact him also00:02:44
no news from him for me00:02:46
it wasn't00:02:48
he had gone for a walk then00:02:50
he was going to come back well maybe he00:02:51
had found some friends and then00:02:53
or what00:02:54
I had an appointment with him on Saturday00:02:56
noon at 1:15 p.m. exactly so that he could00:02:59
come and help me make a trailer of00:03:00
wood and I asked my wife why00:03:02
Carnot wasn't there and he hadn't00:03:04
arrived, she m 'said well there is a00:03:05
problem he didn't come home Friday evening00:03:07
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there are lots of things going00:03:10
through my head because with me he was00:03:12
always on time and I had00:03:13
left messages on his cell phone and00:03:15
systematically he reminded me where he00:03:17
sent me a text message so from there00:03:19
it seemed very strange to me that00:03:22
Mélanie launched a desperate appeal on00:03:25
social networks to her companion and to00:03:27
all those who could have seen it but00:03:29
the year was very very worried because00:03:30
we didn't come back it's clear00:03:31
worried disturbed trouble00:03:34
no control of herself always after00:03:37
her children since her children her00:03:39
children her children00:03:40
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at the end of the day still no trace00:03:45
of arnaudis00:03:47
a procedure for00:03:49
disturbing disappearance is open00:03:54
the night was very short I had a00:03:56
bad night and when I slept little and00:03:59
in the morning I went back looking00:04:00
for Arnaud to see if I saw the00:04:02
car somewhere if we hadn't00:04:04
done filth in the morning it's00:04:07
a cousin of Mélanie who advances00:04:09
the investigation he comes across00:04:10
Arnaud's car a few kilometers from00:04:13
l'Aigle00:04:16
we see Arnoulis' vehicle parked00:04:19
on the side of the road so at the entrance of a00:04:22
very small woods delimited by a small00:04:24
barrier00:04:28
the vehicle is parked towards the00:04:30
woods just at the entrance no one is at the00:04:33
wheel the vehicle is not damaged00:04:39
I said to myself from here the car is00:04:40
there it maybe in the woods he might00:04:43
be in the boxes maybe he went00:04:44
into the woods he might have done something00:04:45
stupid maybe gone into the woods00:04:46
I don't know00:04:50
so right now I'm going up on the embankment00:04:53
I know the gendarmes were starting to00:04:55
look around the car and so00:04:56
on I go up on the embankment and at that00:04:58
moment I hold on to a branch of00:05:01
hornbeam that is there and I look and in the00:05:03
distance I see a red thing which I see00:05:04
something which seems a red t-shirt00:05:09
and there I tell them it's there it's there it's00:05:11
there it's there and then well there I00:05:14
ran I jumped the line00:05:16
and there I saw it you are on your back00:05:18
lying down the arm like that00:05:23
and then I called him and then from00:05:26
there when I wanted to wake him00:05:28
I called him I thought he was moaning00:05:30
like the arms like that and there by pulling00:05:33
the arm a little he had the eyes with a00:05:35
little bruises the nose00:05:37
too then there are flies and they00:05:40
make more what he was dead00:05:46
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the body of orneugis about ten00:05:50
meters from the car on its back we00:05:52
turn the body over of arnaudis and there we00:05:54
see a wound a fairly00:05:57
large wound between the two shoulder blades of00:05:59
3-5 cm in diameter therefore a wound which00:06:02
can be compared to a third of firearms00:06:03
therefore a lot of meaning under the body00:06:05
of arnaudis therefore here he can00:06:08
suggest that he was killed on the spot he is00:06:11
dressed in a red t-shirt and00:06:12
black jogging pants the pants are00:06:15
slightly lowered which suggests00:06:16
that he was probably00:06:18
urinating when he was hit by a00:06:19
shot00:06:25
me for me00:06:26
that's what that's what00:06:29
I want the whole world that's00:06:31
clear that's00:06:33
for me it's it's shock it's00:06:37
incomprehensible it's it's00:06:40
my madness what00:06:42
near the corpse of cans of cigarette butts00:06:46
that the gendarmes place under seal00:06:50
he takes DNA samples from the00:06:52
victim's body and in the car00:06:59
Arnaud's cell phone and keys00:07:01
cannot be found but strangely his00:07:03
wallet is in the car with00:07:05
around fifteen euros00:07:11
who did this who was angry with Arnaud00:07:13
who did this who did what did he00:07:16
do to deserve this that's the00:07:18
thing it's questions it's00:07:21
crazy questions what is it that's what00:07:23
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Arlette Vanacker you are00:07:32
Arnaud's mother it was your eldest son how00:07:35
did you learn that there was a00:07:36
problem when I am for his00:07:38
disappearance already I want to find00:07:40
Mélanie on vacation on acid she00:07:43
failed on the phone telling us that00:07:45
Arnaud had left his00:07:48
home and then he was worried that00:07:51
he still hadn't come back00:07:53
so I frankly told him well well00:07:56
he's going to come back because it's not at00:07:58
all in his habit of going to bed00:08:00
never never going to bed never in a row00:08:04
on Sunday we had Mélanie on the phone00:08:08
and then who announced to us that they00:08:12
had found my son's body00:08:26
that you were00:08:28
the cell phone I was rescued from the campsite00:08:37
and so what did you know if00:08:38
Arnaud had problems00:08:40
as a teenager he had no problem no00:08:42
problem at all he confided in00:08:46
you Arnaud ah yes absolutely between00:08:49
us it was very very close ah yes00:08:51
yes very very00:08:55
he doesn't Not a single day happened when my00:08:59
son called not a day and you00:09:02
called every day every day00:09:04
always00:09:05
like it wasn't me it was sincere00:09:07
but he called all the time all the00:09:09
time all the time and how was- he00:09:11
the last time you met him00:09:12
he was working00:09:14
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that the mouth that was working00:09:22
a lot because his work00:09:25
is his work as he says I have a00:09:27
family to feed he00:09:30
absolutely had to find work00:09:32
and Mélanie she was00:09:35
n't working Mélanie no no he was at home00:09:38
with the children00:09:40
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when they learned of Arnaud's death00:09:43
Mélanie's relatives00:09:45
all rushed to her house00:09:48
there was her family there were her00:09:50
parents there were friends00:09:53
to Mélanie where I had already seen sometimes00:09:57
but whom I did not know she00:09:59
had a friend of hers Damien who was there00:10:01
who took care of the children00:10:03
Mélanie's children are only four00:10:05
and two years old she must give birth to the00:10:07
third in a month00:10:09
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the young mother lets her grief explode00:10:12
on the Internet00:10:14
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everyone was there to00:10:19
try to cheer her up to say well00:10:22
listen you have to get over it think of00:10:25
your baby00:10:26
you have the two little ones behind no00:10:29
[ __ ] and that's what so we00:10:31
tried as much as possible to be present00:10:34
as usual we were always with00:10:36
family as a family there was one who00:10:38
had a problem we were all there at00:10:41
Christmas there were 30 of us no my sister00:10:43
needed she calls I'm coming Stéphane we're calling00:10:46
you I'm coming my brothers are coming00:10:48
I'm coming we were very united it was a00:10:52
more than united family more than united00:10:56
at the end of the day the police00:10:59
interrupted family intimacy despite00:11:01
the mourning the investigation begins and they have00:11:04
questions to ask Mélanie I00:11:06
ask her to talk a little about Arnaud00:11:09
Arnaud had a somewhat00:11:10
difficult childhood before he started having00:11:13
legal problems from the age of 1300:11:15
he experienced several thefts then c it00:11:18
rose crescendo and until the robbery00:11:20
of a pharmacy00:11:22
a robbery for which Arnaud was00:11:24
sentenced to 50 prisons00:11:27
Arnaud I knew him when he left00:11:29
prison00:11:30
my brother who served time in prison with00:11:32
him and who told me presented it upon his release00:11:36
and with whom I immediately00:11:39
hit it off very well with a name it was00:11:41
immediately very well understood00:11:43
I saw that he had a second chance00:11:44
so he took it and00:11:47
he loved it very much precisely because00:11:50
I helped him get through it, not00:11:52
going back into it00:11:54
with the help of Benoît Arnaud moved00:11:57
to Aigle in 2004, he quickly found00:12:00
a job as a butcher at00:12:01
the town's supermarket. stand is a few steps from the00:12:05
fish section and its saleswoman a00:12:08
pretty 21 year old girl called00:12:10
Mélanie00:12:11
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a few months later Arnaud moves in00:12:17
with her he had his little house00:12:19
since his release from prison it was00:12:21
really his first at home00:12:24
with his little countryside so no he00:12:28
was good he was good he had his00:12:30
job he had everything going for him00:12:35
he was a butcher by trade already00:12:37
we like to eat well we like to show off00:12:40
your all that no Arnaud yeah00:12:43
impeccable in the family when you are00:12:45
at my grandparents with my00:12:47
grandfather it was a little yellow for00:12:49
the aperitif then well no impeccable I00:12:53
took Arnaud under my wing because00:12:55
he was someone who needed a00:12:58
father so I took him it's for me00:13:00
it's already he had become my son-in-law in his00:13:03
own right and I was also learning to00:13:06
work outside I also took him to00:13:09
the mushrooms he had never00:13:10
been there I took him fishing he had00:13:11
never been there he didn't know so for00:13:13
me it was communicating what I00:13:15
knew I said to myself he's there he's going to00:13:18
go up he's going to go up we're going to be able to00:13:19
get the thing caught and it's going to go up because00:13:21
that I knew very well that his past00:13:22
was not glorious but I00:13:24
didn't know the details because I00:13:25
never asked any questions.00:13:27
Mélanie also drew a line under00:13:30
Arnaud's past;00:13:32
she didn't describe him as a daddy hen00:13:35
with his two children who have no00:13:37
marital problems00:13:39
that everything is fine it's an ordinary couple00:13:43
a few hours after the tragedy Mélanie00:13:45
and her family have no leads to00:13:48
give to the police00:13:49
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the police decide to reconstruct00:13:59
the last day of 'Arnaud that of00:14:02
July 9, 2010 hoping to find a00:14:05
clue there a bit of leads to follow00:14:11
left in the morning to buy alcohol00:14:14
Madame Fleury had told us who00:14:16
regularly consumed alcohol he00:14:17
was also being looked after he had00:14:18
treatment for00:14:20
this for this consumption of alcohol so00:14:22
he buys alcohol in the morning he spends the00:14:25
day at home00:14:27
in the afternoon he returns to buy00:14:29
alcohol a bottle of whiskey and00:14:30
another bottle of strong alcohol00:14:33
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Arnaud then returns home around 4 p.m.00:14:38
Damien Roland has a friend of the couple00:14:40
join them and while Carnot is on00:14:42
the computer Damien spends the end of the00:14:44
day in the garden with Mélanie and00:14:46
the children00:14:48
after the aperitif he stays for dinner with the00:14:51
whole family00:14:54
around 9:21 p.m. Damien Roland leaves the00:14:57
couple's home with00:14:59
the children in bed Arnaud sits00:15:02
in front of the television with Mélanie00:15:07
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they make love on the sofa00:15:12
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and after around 10:30 p.m. Arnaud decides00:15:20
to go for a drink glass00:15:22
but that evening in the Aigle bars00:15:24
no one came across the young father00:15:27
so where did he go00:15:31
we observe that at 10:56 p.m. he sent a00:15:34
text message to Mr. Damien Roland at that00:15:37
time the last proof of life00:15:39
of arnologism since when this this00:15:41
moment his telephone traffic00:15:44
and when he sends this text message Arnaud is00:15:48
not in the Eagle we work on the00:15:50
telephone relay which is used by a00:15:52
home at that moment and that allows us to00:15:55
position the latter in a00:15:57
wooded area near the town of Auray00:16:00
at the place where his body will be discovered00:16:02
on Sunday00:16:05
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a neighborhood investigation is carried out, we00:16:12
question people who are used to passing by there see if they00:16:14
actually saw something two00:16:15
people informed us that they saw00:16:17
Arnaudis' vehicle at the location00:16:18
where it was found during the night from00:16:21
Friday to Saturday at midnight00:16:24
on the evening of his death from 11 p.m. Arnaud is00:16:28
already in the woods where he will be killed00:16:29
what was he doing there00:16:32
the gendarmes decide to hear Damien00:16:34
Roland he is the one who received the last00:16:37
SMS from Arnaud he is only 19 years old00:16:41
he met Mélanie and Arnaud thanks to00:16:44
one of his friends Florian Potrel who00:16:46
is also Mélanie's cousin00:16:50
Damien Rolland explains to us that for00:16:51
4-5 months in fact he has been seeing the couple00:16:54
roughly 4 to 5 days a week he is00:16:56
always present at home he00:16:58
happens to take care of the children00:17:00
they eat frequently with them they00:17:03
often drink aperitifs together00:17:07
Damien Roland tells us about the sale00:17:09
of a Renault Clio which goes badly00:17:10
between the buyer and then the victim and00:17:14
there are stories of threats00:17:16
verbal threats also stories of00:17:19
chases in the eagle apparently in00:17:21
the town he doesn't go any further on00:17:23
the details but it seems00:17:26
important to him to bring this kind of00:17:28
getting to know us and he still has00:17:31
something else to say about Arnaud00:17:34
Damien Roland tells us that Arnaud has a00:17:37
dark past in the Oise, in particular00:17:40
that his whole family still lives in00:17:42
the Oise and recently he would have received00:17:45
threats and even been the subject of00:17:47
violence against himself. but he00:17:49
can't tell us more about00:17:51
the sale of the car00:17:54
Arnaud's sulphurous past the gendarmes have00:17:56
two new avenues to explore00:17:58
while waiting for Damien's hearing to00:18:01
continue he confirms to them that on the day of00:18:03
Arnaud's disappearance he spent00:18:05
the afternoon well with him and Mélanie00:18:08
after dinner around 9 a.m. 9:30 a.m. he00:18:11
returned home where he continued the00:18:13
evening00:18:14
he told us that he was with00:18:16
his next door neighbor that they watched00:18:18
a film together00:18:20
who will have gone on the internet on00:18:23
social networks etc and then he00:18:26
explains to us that he had a meeting00:18:27
with the victim around 10 p.m. in front of his00:18:30
home to go have a drink in00:18:31
town00:18:32
around 11 p.m. Arnaud sent me an SMS saying00:18:35
saying it's always good tells Damien00:18:37
he took them down to the foot of his building00:18:41
he waited and not seeing the victim00:18:45
coming and he went back up he continued00:18:47
his evening with his neighbor00:18:49
this person is also summoned to00:18:52
the eagle brigade she is she is00:18:54
auditioned and confirms Damien Roland's version00:18:59
Damien Roland explains to us he has around00:19:01
ten exchanges of SMS with Mélanie00:19:03
Fleury throughout the night because she00:19:07
is always worried about not00:19:08
seeing the victim return00:19:09
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the next morning she comes to00:19:16
collect him from his home by car and00:19:18
they go around the town00:19:20
to check to try to00:19:23
find him in fact00:19:24
a schedule which corresponds in00:19:27
every way to the one that Mélanie and her00:19:29
family have already given00:19:32
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Dominique the body was autopied what00:19:40
are the conclusions of the forensic doctor00:19:42
at the Medical Institute of the00:19:45
Caen hospital and the pathologist first00:19:47
visually notes a large00:19:50
bloody orifice in the dorsal region in fact00:19:52
an arnaudis hole was killed in the back00:19:55
by someone who used a hunting rifle00:19:57
loaded with a cartridge of00:19:59
hunting lead so a00:20:02
plancha discharge of lead number 4 is a fairly00:20:04
large lead which is a little over 3 mm00:20:06
and all the pellets remained in the00:20:07
rib cage because there is no00:20:09
exit orifice towards the front we know00:20:11
that the shooter was very close to00:20:13
him about a meter because we00:20:15
found on these clothes and on his00:20:17
back traces of burnt powder we know00:20:21
that the projectiles therefore the00:20:23
lead discharge to sever the spinal cord00:20:26
perforate the thoracic cavity that the00:20:29
right lung exploded under the shock00:20:32
therefore causing a pulmonary lesion00:20:34
then a hemopnemothorax which led to00:20:38
death is that death was00:20:40
instantaneous so no, the00:20:43
jurisprudence says that death was00:20:44
preceded by agony of around twenty00:20:46
minutes and that the jurisprudents say because it00:20:48
notes the presence of00:20:51
stress lesions on the adrenal glands the00:20:55
body was returned and that how we00:20:57
know it we know it formally because00:21:00
we notice we observe the00:21:03
cadaveric lividities which appear four or00:21:07
five hours after death lividities00:21:10
are marks like hematomas00:21:13
like bruises which appear on the00:21:14
skin because the blood settles very00:21:17
slowly it is mechanical in the00:21:20
lower part of the body which rests on the00:21:22
ground so when Arnaud I was killed he00:21:25
received the gunshot in the back00:21:27
he fell face down on the ground00:21:31
his blood was deposited on his chest on00:21:33
his stomach and marking his skin00:21:37
and it was then a few hours00:21:39
later that someone came to turn00:21:42
his body over because the marks are00:21:44
found on the front part exactly00:21:46
we find the marks on his torso00:21:49
so we know that he died on his00:21:50
stomach that he was parked in a position00:21:53
lying on his stomach for00:21:55
hours before being turned over by00:21:57
someone00:21:58
Mélanie is heard again and she00:22:01
confirms what Damien said it is true00:22:03
Arnaud did you have problems recently00:22:05
in the Oise he had also argued00:22:07
with people who had bought him a00:22:09
car on the Internet00:22:10
and she says that they were even00:22:13
threatened Mélanie Florine explains to us in00:22:16
June late on evening while they00:22:18
were in bed someone came to00:22:20
ring the doorbell while looking through the00:22:23
kitchen window they saw an00:22:25
individual who she describes as00:22:27
tall, one meter 85 1m90 and thin00:22:32
this individual that she did not was not able00:22:34
to see well was equipped with an object quite long00:22:38
and quite large of00:22:41
course a few minutes and this00:22:43
individual fled from there and00:22:46
from that moment only Arnaud came00:22:48
out and uttered insults00:22:50
against this individual00:22:54
since then no one has come back to threaten them00:22:56
during her hearing Mélanie ends up00:23:00
explaining that in reality with Arnaud00:23:03
life was not always rosy one thing00:23:05
that takes place is enormously Arnaud it is00:23:07
the very frequent presence at their00:23:09
home of her cousin Florian podiatrist00:23:12
[Music]00:23:13
they are very close Mélanie Fleury and00:23:15
Florian Poils are very very close and00:23:16
therefore a lot and it really has the00:23:19
gift of irritating00:23:22
and Arnaud could lose his temper very00:23:24
easily00:23:26
she tells us that he gave himself up to00:23:28
drink it was regularly especially00:23:30
since he was unemployed00:23:33
that when he drank too much he was00:23:35
violent she tells us about slaps,00:23:38
punches, kicks in the00:23:39
back which gave him00:23:41
[Music]00:23:43
Arnaud, violent alcoholic, the gendarmes00:23:46
question the couple's relatives,00:23:49
Mélanie's father remembers a00:23:51
crisis two years earlier one evening Mélanie00:23:54
found herself outside with her00:23:55
eldest daughter while she was pregnant for00:23:57
the second time00:24:01
locked up in the house he's been drinking he does00:24:04
n't want he doesn't want how he wants to leave00:24:05
with the car he's crazy he's been drinking it's00:24:09
not okay and he's losing his temper that's00:24:11
what she says he kicked me out he00:24:13
m 'got out00:24:16
I wanted to go back into the house he00:24:17
had locked the door I have a00:24:19
Merlin to break the wood I00:24:20
arrived I hit the edge of the steps00:24:22
it said I'm going to break down the door but00:24:24
I'm going to go home, you're going to calm down, and then00:24:26
he opened the door and every time00:24:27
I moved towards him, I backed away, but the00:24:28
tea was on, he had drunk, he00:24:30
was drunk,00:24:33
I asked for the car keys, and00:24:35
then he told me I threw them away00:24:36
the car belonged to my daughter so00:24:39
I said no it's not serious so I00:24:41
took my cry my star I removed00:24:43
two rear wheels of the Golf I00:24:44
put it on Call and I removed the00:24:46
rear wheels of the Golf like that it was00:24:47
quiet he couldn't leave00:24:48
there there was an incident an incident00:24:52
because of alcohol there had been a00:24:53
serious incident ah serious incident00:24:54
because she my daughter is screwed and that00:24:56
and my little girl outside00:24:58
Mélanie's brother also remembers00:25:00
during a somewhat drunken evening00:25:02
Arnaud's behavior had surprised him00:25:05
we have an aperitif Arnaud after three or00:25:07
four glasses that's it the labels were already heating up00:25:09
a little straight away, he00:25:12
said to me, do you have a new boxing game,00:25:15
can we try it on your console00:25:17
and there I saw a person who scared me00:25:20
very much00:25:22
that he had both controllers in his00:25:24
hands and you would have thought that he had00:25:26
someone in front of him who00:25:28
really wanted to hit them and in a trance the00:25:32
cold sweats the big00:25:34
drops which flowed the t-shirt soaked in00:25:37
5 minutes and there we said to ourselves00:25:40
little guy you will have to express00:25:42
yourself differently00:25:46
Arnaud aggressive when he was under00:25:48
the influence of alcohol yes but00:25:50
did he hit Mélanie as the latter00:25:52
claims00:25:54
[Music]00:25:55
in the flowery family no one is00:25:57
aware of violence against his wife00:25:59
only Mélanie's brother remembers00:26:02
seeing one day a mark on00:26:05
his sister's face00:26:06
I arrived on a Friday morning like00:26:09
every 15 days when I was00:26:10
in the afternoon I I was going to drink my little00:26:11
coffee at my sister's house and one day I00:26:14
arrived and she had a mark on one00:26:16
cheek. Well, I had a big bruise00:26:19
on her cheek and she said yes. I00:26:21
bumped into the kitchen cabinet.00:26:23
'left it there and we thought about it, I00:26:26
'm good God, the kitchen cabinet is00:26:27
still quite high, it seems00:26:29
strange to me, well, well, it stayed there, but00:26:32
she never said anything about it, Mélanie,00:26:34
towards us00:26:37
neither to his family or to the gendarmerie00:26:40
moreover00:26:42
in our files we have nothing at all we have00:26:44
no call from the couple or no call00:26:47
from the neighbors but uniflory never00:26:49
came to file a complaint she never came to00:26:51
report a particular event so00:26:54
it is paradoxical with his declarations00:26:57
[Applause]00:27:00
on the other hand Mélanie like those close to him00:27:02
agree on one point about00:27:04
Arnaud00:27:08
Mélanie Florine tells us Carnot spends00:27:10
his time around 5 or 6 hours a day00:27:12
since he is unemployed on the Internet00:27:14
and especially on dating sites00:27:19
when we went to his house he was00:27:21
always happy to say look at00:27:22
this one, she's from the eagle, look at00:27:24
that one then I saw him00:27:26
last week and he was running a lot of girls00:27:31
Mélanie Fleury and Nami in Roland00:27:34
tell us about a nurse with whom Arnaudis00:27:37
could have had an affair00:27:40
[Music]00:27:42
he had two cell phones and when we00:27:45
went fishing he played with the00:27:46
cell phones at 5 a.m. isn't my00:27:48
daughter who could answer him because she00:27:49
was in bed with her children he00:27:50
was with me he walked away he spoke00:27:52
answered people00:27:54
for me Arnaud try to flirt that00:27:57
's clear00:28:02
during the investigation the gendarmes are00:28:05
look into your son's life do you00:28:06
know if he had mistresses00:28:09
so I'm laughing and frankly in front of00:28:11
you my son has mistresses no no not00:28:14
at all and were you00:28:15
aware of the problems he had had here00:28:17
in the Oise he left far away he didn't want to00:28:20
hear about it anymore as soon as he00:28:23
settled there he left Paris00:28:24
to go there he gave up00:28:27
on the Oise he was coming down only to00:28:30
come to me look at least he uses it00:28:32
to spend the holidays there but he00:28:34
never had any problems in the Oise00:28:36
once settled there he never had00:28:39
a somewhat difficult past as a result of00:28:42
prison do you think that he00:28:44
could have reconnected with that world00:28:49
I admit as quite a bit like his00:28:53
brother he was only once in00:28:55
prison Sardou he spoke to you about his life as a couple00:29:00
[Music]00:29:07
he could have been violent with Mélanie00:29:12
the hand on his wife on his children00:29:16
in there we must stop saying00:29:20
everything I heard about the children00:29:21
because these children were if you like00:29:23
it was his whole life his children ah yes00:29:25
but then shout good well like in all00:29:29
households I think sometimes he00:29:30
gets into arguments and then him that's normal00:29:33
and it's an alcohol problem are they00:29:35
very important00:29:40
either there last I don't know00:29:44
me his suddenly yeah yeah ok but not00:29:48
seeing emptied bottles and then I do00:29:50
n't know me00:29:54
Arnaud was therefore unemployed did he00:29:56
have money problems ah00:29:58
yes the coffee was enormous even enormous00:30:01
ah yes yes yes because my son00:30:03
it's true he didn't know how to pay for00:30:06
trades from home00:30:08
because it's quite heavy all the same but00:30:10
my son never asked me for a00:30:11
cent on the other hand never ever00:30:13
because when I told him at00:30:16
telephone I knew that he had no00:30:17
money automatically if he was able to00:30:19
work he had no money coming in00:30:20
and you had money to00:30:22
give them of course I had received a small00:30:24
inheritance so00:30:26
it was used for a very good cause00:30:28
because00:30:30
my son I made00:30:34
my son benefit from it and then when my son00:30:37
received it he asked were you happy he00:30:39
was sure he was happy00:30:44
[Music] Did00:30:49
Dominique Arnaud have an appointment00:30:51
with a mistress on the evening of his death00:30:52
can we say that he was the00:30:54
victim of a jealous husband it is a00:30:57
possibility a possibility that the00:30:59
investigators do not rule out therefore just00:31:01
after his death the day after his death00:31:03
the investigators know Carnegie spent00:31:06
a lot of time on his computer00:31:07
every day they will search00:31:09
his home recover this computer and00:31:12
they will try to make him talk00:31:14
what interests them is possibly00:31:15
to know if he is in contact with00:31:17
women by Internet problem is00:31:20
carnogis has equipped his computer with a00:31:22
system which means that when you turn it on00:31:24
or off00:31:26
all the browsing history00:31:27
disappears he doesn't want us to see what's00:31:30
happening eh he does not want us to know00:31:31
who he is in contact with so the00:31:34
gendarmes will make their00:31:35
task a little more complicated. They will go to the00:31:37
Criminal Research Institute of the00:31:38
National Gendarmerie where they have a laboratory. They00:31:40
will succeed in bringing out the entrails.00:31:43
of this computer the URL addresses on00:31:46
the Internet connection sites on00:31:49
which for two years00:31:51
Arnaudis will be regularly he will00:31:54
find00:31:56
150150,000 Internet addresses from there they00:31:58
discover Carnegie consulted decides00:32:00
to purchase and sell information but00:32:03
also very regularly dating sites00:32:05
so indeed we are going to00:32:08
find the named people the00:32:10
real people who are hiding the00:32:11
women who are hiding behind00:32:13
pseudonyms so there really is this woman00:32:16
who lives in l'aigle who works as a00:32:18
temporary worker the gendarmes will find her00:32:20
there there is also this other woman00:32:22
with whom he is in contact00:32:23
called guapa he was chatting00:32:26
with her regularly on the Internet the00:32:28
gendarmes will also ask him00:32:29
questions and these two women will00:32:31
answer but yes of course we know him00:32:32
but we have fact that communicating by00:32:34
Internet we never know how to speak never00:32:35
call us never gave us an00:32:37
appointment it's only virtual00:32:38
it was only virtual and00:32:40
the nurse then it's a nurse00:32:42
it's Damien Rolland who mentions it with00:32:44
the gendarmes Damien Roland who says00:32:45
arnaudis told me that he had00:32:48
a relationship with a nurse for a year00:32:50
and well it's the same thing she's00:32:51
a nurse she lives in Orne the00:32:53
gendarmes will find her and she will00:32:54
tell them the same thing yes we00:32:56
spoke on the internet no he never00:32:58
gave me an appointment I never00:32:59
met him and the other leads those of00:33:01
the sale of the car for example the00:33:03
lead of the sale from the car it doesn't00:33:05
give anything the trail of00:33:09
Arnogis San's criminal past doesn't give anything either we00:33:12
now know that the internet trail of a00:33:15
jealous husband possibly doesn't give00:33:16
anything either which means that the00:33:18
police will close all the doors00:33:20
every the leads in any case which00:33:21
were given to them and by Mélanie and by00:33:23
Damien00:33:25
July 21, 2010 Arnaud GIS is buried00:33:29
in the Eagle cemetery everyone00:33:31
is there his family his friends and the00:33:34
gendarmes discreetly he records everything00:33:36
notes the plaques registration00:33:38
photographs all those who attend00:33:40
the funeral the murderer is00:33:42
perhaps among them00:33:45
during this time around the coffin00:33:47
the time is for meditation00:33:51
his mother unfortunately as everything is00:33:52
normal his sister was crying his brother too00:33:55
everyone was crying even my parents00:33:58
because my parents had taken him00:34:00
for their second boy so everyone was unhappy00:34:06
I accompanied Mélanie I was next00:34:09
to her a procession in the church she00:34:12
was very surrounded I was next to her on00:34:14
the other side there was00:34:16
Damien and there were Mélanie's parents00:34:20
during the ceremony a detail00:34:23
still made the family ticket which00:34:25
seemed strange to me at first when I00:34:27
sat behind her is that 'she00:34:29
was sitting next to Damien and Damien had00:34:31
nothing to do there at my sister's feet00:34:36
and why was he there since00:34:39
it was for my parents who were at00:34:40
her feet and that's a lot of00:34:41
people that it shocked00:34:43
a lot of people we said to ourselves but00:34:45
it's still not his place00:34:48
the gendarmes also noticed it they are00:34:51
directing their research on Damien00:34:54
we will realize over the weeks00:34:56
that unlike his statements00:34:58
Mr. Damien Roland has a00:35:00
second GSM line or this GSM line there00:35:04
is no time during his00:35:05
initial hearing he tells us about it he deliberately hides it00:35:10
and because of the carnots leave the00:35:13
house Mélanie sends a coded message00:35:15
on the phone of Damien to say I00:35:17
am alone00:35:19
Damien then calls her back from his00:35:21
second phone just to remain00:35:23
discreet and Carnot does not realize anything00:35:27
from that moment the theory or00:35:30
hypothesis of a relationship of an00:35:32
emotional relationship between the two00:35:33
people begin to take on a00:35:36
little more body00:35:37
when the gendarmes place Mélanie and00:35:39
Damien on wiretap, they no longer have any00:35:41
doubts,00:35:42
he calls each other in sweet little words,00:35:45
my heart, my darling,00:35:48
and even once during a conversation,00:35:52
Damien will get angry since she did00:35:54
n't say kisses to him at the end of the00:35:56
conversation so he will call her back00:35:59
Damien doesn't hide anything about his new00:36:02
relationship from his family00:36:07
[Music]00:36:29
after that I didn't see him anymore so like that we00:36:31
discussed it and then like that 'it's00:36:33
true that at the time I told him00:36:34
half cracked he said to himself well that's it00:36:36
sister it's starting again it makes me00:36:38
love00:36:40
Mélanie's side of the family00:36:41
as we listen to it we sees clearly that00:36:43
he sees that there is a rapprochement between00:36:45
the two and but it is done more in00:36:47
a tone of humor in fact in particular00:36:48
when Damien speaks to Mélanie's mother00:36:52
he calls Belmont00:36:56
for me Damien Roland was there to00:36:58
support all that, what is it, he00:37:00
helped us, it was a helping hand, there you go,00:37:01
buddy Mélanie, maybe I did00:37:04
n't know, let's say big buddy, Mélanie, I00:37:08
didn't know, I didn't feel it, it00:37:09
relieved us a little00:37:10
because we said to ourselves if they are sinking on00:37:12
the other side how we are going to do to00:37:14
get her back up and it is a bit of a relief to00:37:16
see her resuming day after00:37:18
day regaining harmony in the00:37:20
house not as if nothing happened00:37:22
like if we were going to try to live with00:37:24
that, trying to move forward,00:37:27
from there everything goes very quickly Damien00:37:30
becomes the main suspect00:37:33
the police just have to find00:37:35
evidence to start has Damien00:37:38
passed well the evening of the murder with his00:37:40
neighbor as he said by means of00:37:42
telephone data we will realize00:37:43
that on Friday evening contrary to these00:37:46
declarations Mr. Damien Roland00:37:49
is not at his home in the Eagle in the00:37:50
company of his comrade as he00:37:52
declares this to us but in reality is00:37:54
in the geographical area where00:37:55
Arnaudis' body was discovered and in the00:37:57
time slot00:37:59
in which he exchanged a text message with00:38:01
the victim00:38:02
[Music]00:38:04
on the evening of the murder at 10:56 p.m. Damien was00:38:08
in the woods at the same time Carnot time00:38:11
the rates tighten around him00:38:20
Véronique Lanot you were an00:38:23
investigating judge in Caen and it is you who00:38:25
are investigating this case00:38:27
Mélanie and Damien did they really have a00:38:30
romantic relationship00:38:32
it was evident quite quickly00:38:34
that after the death of 'arnaudis they00:38:37
maintained a romantic relationship00:38:38
Damien Roland for example allowed himself00:38:41
to reflect on the education00:38:43
of the children he did the work in00:38:45
the house he functioned as a00:38:46
couple from then on we sought to know00:38:48
of course if this romantic relationship00:38:50
existed before since that could00:38:52
actually be a motive for00:38:53
Damien Rolland and the00:38:55
telephone investigations effectively00:38:57
established that this relationship00:38:58
existed before the facts since there00:39:01
were00:39:03
very frequent telephone conversations between Damien Rolland and00:39:05
Mélanie Fleury and you place them in00:39:06
police custody then not immediately00:39:08
since we must remember that Mélanie00:39:10
Fleury at that time was pregnant we00:39:12
did not have any decisive material elements00:39:13
against her or00:39:15
the other we had suspicions their00:39:16
declaration was therefore very important00:39:18
and we couldn't take the risk00:39:20
of lifting police custody for00:39:21
medical reasons, you were afraid that Mélanie00:39:23
fleurie would give birth in police custody, that's it,00:39:25
yes, that the doctor said that her state of00:39:27
health was not compatible with00:39:28
custody and we are obliged to00:39:30
end this custody so you00:39:32
do not take them into police custody and I imagine00:39:33
that you continue your investigations00:39:35
so the telephone tapping will00:39:37
also tell us that Damien00:39:39
Roland is likely to to be able to have00:39:40
a weapon he speaks to mom with an00:39:42
interlocutor about a plan gun so it's00:39:44
not uninteresting since we're00:39:45
talking about it he was killed by a00:39:47
gun we also have an interesting text message00:39:49
between the neighbor who supplied Libya to00:39:51
Damien Rolland and Damien Rolland then00:39:54
in this text message this neighbor asks him for 20000:39:56
euros apparently without compensation so00:39:58
we necessarily think payment for an00:40:00
alibi and we especially have elements on00:40:03
the personality of Mélanie Fleury00:40:05
since during these00:40:06
telephone conversations that we records we00:40:08
realize that they lie to these00:40:10
interlocutors about00:40:11
sometimes trivial things or about00:40:13
more important things on elements00:40:14
of the investigation she will tell00:40:16
different things depending on these interlocutors on00:40:18
the progress of the investigation for example which00:40:20
will be false00:40:21
elements of which she says that the00:40:23
gendarmes are on a lead when00:40:24
this is not accurate and that it00:40:26
was not told to her she will also try to00:40:28
sully the memory of arnaudis since she00:40:30
will claim that he emptied the children's account00:40:31
while we check it's00:40:33
still false so she gives birth and she00:40:37
is going to lie to her mother-in-law even about the00:40:39
first name of her last child since she00:40:40
is going to assure her mother-in-law that he has00:40:42
the first name of Arnaud in her own00:40:44
first names00:40:45
check the civil status and it is not00:40:47
correct she does not have her last child Steven00:40:50
does not have the first name of Arnaud he on the00:40:51
contrary has one of the first names of Damien00:40:53
Roland which is Kevin it's not00:40:55
uninteresting to realize00:40:56
that she is capable of lying almost in00:40:58
all circumstances even in the context00:40:59
of her private life it does not make her00:41:00
a murderer it just gives00:41:03
elements about her personality00:41:10
the judge leaves some more days of00:41:12
tranquility for the young mother and her00:41:14
baby and on September 21, a month after the00:41:18
birth, the gendarmes arrested00:41:19
Damien and Mélanie,00:41:23
his surprise on the morning of his00:41:24
arrest. Damien Roland was00:41:27
at Mélanie Fleury's00:41:28
[Music]00:41:30
he showed his passives dejected. no00:41:32
reactions00:41:35
Mélanie Fleury on the other hand she is00:41:37
much more incisive elsewhere00:41:39
and also with regard to Damien Roland00:41:41
since when she understands that he could have00:41:43
played a major role in the death00:41:46
of artologis she attacks verbally00:41:49
very violently to Damien Rolland00:41:53
the gendarmes search the00:41:55
pavilion00:41:56
we realize that Damien Rolland has00:41:59
moved into Mélanie's room we00:42:01
find all of these00:42:03
clothing items in the cupboard00:42:06
only Mélanie's bed and facts so00:42:09
obviously they are missing we will00:42:12
find a00:42:13
powered shotgun we will find the two00:42:16
cell phones used by Damien00:42:17
Roland the lines that we used00:42:19
in the weeks preceding00:42:22
alerted by the gendarmes Mélanie's mother00:42:24
rushes to take care of the00:42:26
three little ones00:42:27
a little and we realize that we are00:42:30
completely wrong with his daughter and Damien having00:42:33
nothing to do with the murder00:42:34
of Arnaud00:42:36
my cell phone rings and there it is my wife00:42:38
who is calling me she told me to call00:42:40
someone 'one is a police officer who00:42:41
takes me on the phone and tells me do00:42:44
n't worry, don't get angry, stay00:42:46
calm Mélanie and taken into custody and00:42:50
there it's an explosion there it's00:42:52
an explosion again when I say but damn00:42:54
the kingdom of scarves we are in the kingdom00:42:56
of madmen there and what the hell is my00:42:57
daughter doing in this story there and there00:43:01
at the gendarmerie of the Eagle the00:43:04
auditions begin00:43:06
Mélanie and Damien are questioned in00:43:08
two neighboring rooms Damien he is a00:43:11
little overwhelmed by the scale of the00:43:13
events and very quickly in00:43:15
the first00:43:17
minutes in his custody he admits to being00:43:20
the author of the fatal shot00:43:22
but if killing her is for Mélanie00:43:27
Mélanie simply explained that she00:43:30
could no longer take arnology which the00:43:32
battle which he submitted to00:43:34
forced sexual relations and who00:43:36
sought by all means a solution00:43:38
to this hell00:43:40
to save the one he loves Damien00:43:43
imagined a plan00:43:46
Damien Rolland had proposed in the register00:43:49
that it was a burglary in a00:43:51
hunting cabin so in the clearing00:43:53
where we found the body of Arnauds00:43:58
on the evening of the tragedy after having dined at00:44:01
Arnaud's he went into the clearing and00:44:03
hid a rifle that he had taken at his00:44:06
mother's house00:44:07
[Music]00:44:09
then he went back to hand Arnaud at00:44:12
an intersection not very far away where he00:44:14
had arranged to meet around 10:30 p.m.00:44:17
which very probably explains00:44:19
the last text from Arnaud GIS00:44:21
at 10:56 p.m. to Damien00:44:27
around 11:15 p.m. Damien and Arnaud leave00:44:30
together towards the clearing00:44:35
we parked as the car was00:44:37
found says Damien in front of the00:44:39
barrier we went down00:44:42
after Arnaud wanted to piss he00:44:45
moved towards the forest during that00:44:48
time I I went to get the gun, I00:44:50
took three or four steps,00:44:53
he had his back and I was behind,00:44:56
I hesitated00:44:58
and I fired00:45:01
[Music]00:45:06
then00:45:08
Damien walked back to Mélanie's house, it00:45:11
was around one o'clock in the morning when00:45:13
he has arrived00:45:14
[Music]00:45:16
the other clearly explains to him what00:45:19
has just committed Damien Roland00:45:21
is not well he wants to vomit and00:45:22
nausea well obviously he is00:45:24
still marked Mélanie she on the other hand is00:45:28
completely willing to have a00:45:29
sexual relationship on the field with Damien00:45:33
according to him Mélanie was aware of00:45:35
everything00:45:38
I explain to you clearly that she00:45:39
knew exactly what he was going to do00:45:41
that it was already planned in the afternoon00:45:44
when they saw each other when he played00:45:46
on the edge from the swimming pool with the children00:45:47
and then that the victim was on his00:45:49
computer in the dining room and on00:45:52
my discussion together clearly explained to him00:45:54
that it was for this evening and that00:45:55
he would take action00:45:58
after the murder are good text night00:46:00
was a code between them to say it's00:46:03
done00:46:04
after that they sent each other00:46:07
messages during the night to forge an00:46:09
alibi00:46:10
the next day Damien went to retrieve00:46:13
the weapon in the clearing Mélanie and the00:46:16
children held it out in the car00:46:17
then they all went together00:46:20
to return the rifle to his mother's house00:46:24
on her instructions, the gendarmes00:46:25
found not only the weapon but00:46:27
also Arnaud's cell phone burned at the bottom00:46:30
of a body of water as Damien had said,00:46:33
these confessions hold up road00:46:38
to finish he recognizes that it was he00:46:40
who came to threaten Arnaud a few00:46:42
weeks before the tragedy00:46:45
yes I had tried to make an00:46:47
attempt finally it was not to00:46:49
kill him but more to scare him that00:46:52
evening Damien n 'wasn't alone it's00:46:54
Florian Poitrel his boyfriend is Mélanie's cousin00:46:57
who drives her in front of the house00:47:00
we had planned this together all00:47:02
three Mélanie Florian and I00:47:07
of course when he explains all that to us00:47:11
we didn't imagine that it was that00:47:14
it was already prepared in time00:47:17
at that moment00:47:19
in the neighboring custody room00:47:21
Mélanie she is much more confused,00:47:25
difficult for example to know if she00:47:27
is in love with Damien00:47:29
at the start of his war we saw she said00:47:31
that she has no romantic feelings00:47:33
for Damien, he was a friend but in00:47:37
fact she00:47:39
recognizes him who slept together but00:47:42
that she didn't love him and00:47:45
gradually that he is in police custody advanced and00:47:47
well she recognized her feelings00:47:48
even saying that she was very in love00:47:50
with him00:47:52
Mélanie constantly contradicts herself about00:47:55
Arnaud's murder she knew nothing00:47:57
about it but then why did she hide00:48:00
her affair with Damien why all these00:48:03
text messages the night of murder00:48:06
when we confront her with all these00:48:08
inconsistencies and all the lies she00:48:10
will have given during the investigation00:48:13
she will get angry, become aggressive and00:48:15
even speak informally to the investigator who asks her00:48:18
the questions00:48:19
she could get angry but00:48:22
she came back down like a bellows in00:48:23
fact she became very calm again her00:48:26
mood was very very changeable depending on00:48:28
the questions we asked her pushing00:48:31
to her limits Mélanie admits00:48:34
when Damien came home on Friday evening00:48:36
he told me I got rid of you 'Arnaud00:48:39
but she affirms that she had00:48:41
never asked him to kill the father of her00:48:43
children, she never participated in the00:48:46
attempted intimidation00:48:47
[Music]00:48:51
the gendarmes have two versions but00:48:54
over the hours Damien's statements00:48:56
evolve she gives us00:48:58
the impression of having become aware of the00:49:00
fact that Mélanie very probably00:49:02
used him to get rid of software00:49:06
day after day she managed to00:49:09
persuade him Carnot was a danger for00:49:12
her and her children Mélanie n never00:49:14
explicitly put forward the hypothesis of the00:49:18
final nissu but what we understand from00:49:21
Damien's statements is that she00:49:23
left00:49:24
this hypothesis hanging for him00:49:27
to own it and in reality to00:49:29
be the instigator how can that be00:49:30
understood in fact which is a00:49:32
given moment that he was manipulated00:49:35
his side Mélanie will not say more00:49:38
[Music]00:49:46
Dominique Florian Potrel elected also placed00:49:49
in police custody he is placed in police custody00:49:51
for the attempt to intimidation in00:49:53
which he participated in mid-June00:49:55
at Arnaud's home in the evening00:49:57
he is denounced by Damien and he00:49:58
recognizes this attempt absolutely he00:50:00
recognizes that he participated in this00:50:02
operation meditates - he was only00:50:04
for intimidate Arnaud to scare him00:50:05
and at no time was the intention00:50:08
to come and kill him but Florian Poterel00:50:10
will give a lot of very00:50:12
valuable information to the investigators first of all a00:50:14
value saying that Mélanie had on00:50:16
several occasions informed him of her00:50:18
intention to get rid of Arnaud00:50:20
wanted to kill him that's the first00:50:22
point second point Florian was00:50:25
informed by Mélanie and by Damien on00:50:28
Saturday morning the day after00:50:30
Arnaud's murder he was informed of what00:50:32
had happened he didn't know everything until00:50:34
third thing Damien told Florian00:50:39
that Mélanie had come to pick him up by00:50:41
car just after the murder in the00:50:43
forest that night so he doesn't involve00:50:45
his cousin a little more he involves00:50:46
his cousin a little more and then fourth00:50:48
point and that is very important Florian00:50:51
tells the investigators that a previous00:50:54
murder attempt on Arnaud had00:50:57
been planned a month and a half before his00:50:59
butter this is what happened00:51:01
Mélanie and Damien had decided to00:51:04
get rid of Arnaud the plan was00:51:05
this one we put sleeping pill in00:51:07
his drink and when he sleeps we put him00:51:10
in his car we take his car00:51:12
somewhere and we make it look like a00:51:13
road accident as that's not00:51:16
how people things are going to happen00:51:17
on the scheduled evening of this dinner and well00:51:20
Arnaud has invited his good friend Benoît00:51:22
Kowalski and Benoit is there too but00:51:24
Mélanie is going to tell Damien and Florian00:51:27
too bad we make them00:51:29
both disappear both of them will be00:51:30
asleep with sleeping pill in their00:51:32
glass00:51:34
Mélanie then leaves the field00:51:36
open to Damien and Florian whose00:51:39
mission is to suffocate Arnaud and his00:51:41
friend Benoît they have to suffocate them00:51:43
with pillows but between saying it and00:51:45
doing it there is a world of difference because the00:51:48
other two will struggle even if they00:51:49
are half asleep and very drunk00:51:52
they will struggle and it will not00:51:54
go as planned so the other two00:51:55
will abandon this operation the00:51:57
next morning Arnaud and Benoît00:51:59
wake up with a strong face of wood00:52:01
headaches bruises00:52:04
blows all over the place and Arnaud asks00:52:06
Mélanie but what happened00:52:07
Mélanie tells him listen you00:52:09
drank so much with Benoît that you00:52:10
had a fight the family separated you that00:52:13
that happened Arnaud and Benoît were so impressed by00:52:15
what they were told that they00:52:17
decided to go to see their00:52:19
alcohol problems and Florian00:52:22
what did he get in exchange so Florian00:52:25
said that Mélanie had promised him a00:52:28
sum of 50,000 euros if he agreed to00:52:30
participate in this operation that00:52:33
evening he will charge Mélanie and say00:52:36
that Mélanie was the one who00:52:38
decided everything, the one who00:52:40
asked them to do this and that he00:52:41
and Damien were in charge, it was00:52:45
she who decided who was in command00:52:48
in front of the Eagle gendarmerie,00:52:50
Mélanie's father paces back and forth,00:52:53
gnawing at his blood,00:52:55
his weapon says, well, apparently these are the00:52:59
years we have a big problem,00:53:02
the murderer, we have him and Mélanie Julie,00:53:05
is that she has done serious things00:53:06
she tells me for me yes and no she says00:53:09
no I don't think it would be very very00:53:10
serious but yes and no that's all we00:53:12
say I say it's who he tells me00:53:14
well it's it's the sea Roland00:53:18
I take a blow in the00:53:20
mouth I don't tell you what I take a00:53:21
blow I make my head go down00:53:23
there but then like crazy00:53:27
Damien Roland Stéphane Fleury had00:53:29
trusted him to Arnaud's death he00:53:32
had even asked him to watch over00:53:33
Mélanie and the children00:53:36
confession helpful polite don't drink do00:53:41
n't smoke00:53:42
what else do you want to ask him00:53:46
I didn't believe it at first I said00:53:48
his Damien's parents couldn't do that,00:53:50
it was a heavy blow for us.00:53:53
I said to myself, he's not my brother, he's00:53:56
not him,00:53:58
never ever, I would have seen him with a00:54:00
weapon in his hands and00:54:02
come up 'that's why00:54:05
Françoise and Xavier Le Bigot00:54:08
knew Damien very well when he was a00:54:09
teenager four years before the tragedy he was00:54:12
going out with their eldest daughter and she quickly00:54:14
became part of the family and00:54:16
there we always thought of Damien if we00:54:19
automatically sat down at the table00:54:20
put the plate for Damien what00:54:22
did we take him into consideration00:54:24
he was part of our life afterwards00:54:27
finally I mean there it was a00:54:28
third child in the house what00:54:30
was my son for me that we had shared a00:54:33
bunch of lots of things at home to00:54:37
tinker with always being of service to me he00:54:40
had at home found a family who00:54:43
would perhaps have wanted to have younger00:54:45
[Music]00:54:47
Damian never knew his father his00:54:49
childhood he had him living with his mother and00:54:52
an alcoholic and violent stepfather00:54:57
Damien was not easy because my00:54:59
stepfather was not nice to what as soon00:55:01
as he drank he was he was mean00:55:03
as well with my mother and with Damien that's why we00:55:06
tried to get me to00:55:08
take it, my aunt she took it but00:55:10
Damien wasn't happy about00:55:11
that either sometimes he didn't want to leave because he00:55:12
knew that my mother was going to00:55:13
have the hell on the weekend00:55:16
so00:55:18
sometimes I know who was coming but we00:55:20
had to call mom to find out00:55:21
if it was okay then after a while00:55:23
growing up he wasn't stupid too00:55:25
even when mom told him well yes it's00:55:26
okay we knew very well well everything was00:55:28
not going well a friend at first00:55:30
as a teenager Damien found a00:55:33
balance with his00:55:34
girlfriend's family but after two years the00:55:37
lovers separated Damien moved away and00:55:40
took an apartment in the Eagle00:55:43
he reconnects with a childhood friend00:55:46
Florian Potrel00:55:48
who introduces him to his cousin Mélanie00:55:50
Arnaud and their two young children00:55:53
[Music]00:55:54
[Laughs]00:55:55
but how could this sweet and endearing boy00:55:57
kill his family in cold blood00:56:02
looking for answers00:56:05
when he saw that things were going badly at00:56:07
Mélanie's house he wanted it to not happen00:56:09
like it was happening at our house and who00:56:12
rather wanted to protect her protect the00:56:13
children00:56:14
if he saw as he told me sometimes00:56:17
anger and everything that was going wrong00:56:19
there00:56:20
automatically he didn't want that he could00:56:23
n't stand it00:56:25
Damien the white knight of Mélanie his00:56:29
savior against the violence of Arnaud00:56:32
it is now up to the instruction to check it00:56:36
on the 23 September 2010 he is taken00:56:38
before the judge with Mélanie and Florian00:56:43
once again Mélanie's father has00:56:46
handed over his daughter he walks in circles in front of00:56:48
the court convinced that she will get out00:56:50
and that all the charges rest on00:56:52
Damien00:56:55
but the judge places all the world under00:56:57
examination00:56:58
Damien and Mélanie head straight to00:57:00
prison only Florian Potrel comes out free00:57:04
under judicial supervision00:57:07
Stéphane Fleury no longer understands anything00:57:09
I call his mother and then I explode at his00:57:13
mother you are still there is00:57:14
still a hell of a problem there it is00:57:16
what did your guy do and so00:57:17
on and all that she tells me why00:57:18
why I say indicted and he00:57:20
is in the same way that he is part of00:57:22
doing it he is in the coup with00:57:24
Mélanie00:57:25
with Mr. Roland with all that and I00:57:28
say he is in on it there are three00:57:30
accused in there but I say he is00:57:32
free there is a problem there there is a00:57:34
problem00:57:35
remain logical00:57:37
it is necessary that 'it's00:57:41
what we do, he has to be punished,00:57:45
well, it's true that it gave a little00:57:47
tension afterward, they saw me00:57:50
in a bad light,00:57:53
the flower family was shattered, everyone00:57:57
took the side of his child00:57:59
Stéphane and his sister who got along00:58:01
so well until now to talk to each other more00:58:03
[Music]00:58:07
Madam judge who did what in00:58:09
this case so on this point the00:58:11
statements have evolved a little bit he00:58:14
will say that not only Mélanie00:58:15
was aware but in addition she00:58:16
agreed and even she asked him to00:58:18
do it he even goes so far as to say that00:58:20
it was she who put together the plan, that is to00:58:22
say the getaban in which he attracted00:58:24
an arnologist under pretext of doing a00:58:25
heist she shot in this00:58:27
forest path and he will still add that00:58:29
it was also she who designated the00:58:31
place and who knew this place and who00:58:32
found the place what is his motive00:58:34
then his motive it's he is00:58:37
in love with Mélanie Fleury so he wants to00:58:39
live with Mélanie Fleury she00:58:40
indicates he promised to live with00:58:42
him so it's to live his love00:58:44
with Mélanie Fleury he indicates he00:58:46
acted under pressure of Mélanie Fleury00:58:49
he talks about emotional blackmail in a00:58:51
way or she made him understand that00:58:53
if he didn't kill Arnaudie it's00:58:55
Arnaudis who kills Mélanie Fleury she00:58:57
said he's going to leave me in the lurch00:58:58
and at the end even amirolandic Mélanie00:59:02
Fleury threatened to leave him if he00:59:04
didn't act and kill our00:59:06
lives and why she can't00:59:07
just leave Arnaud Rogis then00:59:10
Mélanie according to what Damien00:59:12
Rolland and Florian Potrel say but the00:59:14
flowery night won't say it herself00:59:16
claimed that anywhere she00:59:18
could go arnologis or her family00:59:20
would find her and attack her00:59:22
so she said there was only this00:59:23
solution was to kill a home to00:59:25
have peace of mind you questioned00:59:27
Mélanie Fleury several times times00:59:28
does she maintain her version does she00:59:30
change then Mélanie00:59:33
Fleury evolved but she never00:59:34
admitted to being the instigator of smurtre00:59:36
she evolved since at the beginning she00:59:38
simply said that she was00:59:39
aware and then she said she00:59:41
agreed with that she even00:59:42
admitted that she herself had twice00:59:44
tried in the past to suffocate00:59:47
arnologist to kill him by trying to00:59:48
suffocate him she also admitted that00:59:51
what she had done Damien Roland00:59:52
corresponded to what she expected of00:59:53
him, don't you think, what00:59:55
seems credible to you in all this, it's00:59:57
hard to think sincerely, on the other01:00:00
hand, Damien Rolland made her the choice01:00:03
I I feel like I'm saying things01:00:04
as they happened, he did01:00:05
n't change it,01:00:07
I think he's still in love with01:00:09
Mélanie Fleury and he's also01:00:10
worried about becoming his children, we're having01:00:13
trouble to imagine that he would wrongly accuse her01:00:14
Mélanie Fleury is seen by01:00:17
psychiatrists psychologists how do01:00:19
they describe her then the psychiatrist and the01:00:21
psychologist who met Mélanie01:00:23
Fleury for her expertise does not indicate01:00:24
a mental anomaly no01:00:26
psychological anomaly they do not describe01:00:28
perverse functioning they only note01:00:29
a great emotional immaturity there remain01:00:32
gray areas in this file01:00:33
in particular who turned the body upside down the01:00:35
most likely hypothesis is01:00:37
that it is Mélanie Fleury we01:00:40
can think so because Florian Potrel01:00:42
never varied by saying that she had01:00:43
come to pick up Damien Roland,01:00:45
perhaps she did not come the same day but that suggests that she01:00:46
came to the scene we can.01:00:48
also think since she admitted to01:00:50
having gone the next day with Damien01:00:51
Roland to look for the rifle which01:00:52
was far from there to01:00:55
hide it so it does not seem illogical01:00:58
to think that on this occasion she01:00:59
went to see a last times her husband and01:01:02
perhaps just to01:01:03
ensure that he was dead at the end of01:01:05
the investigation they are so you see01:01:08
for checkerboard Roland will be sent for01:01:10
assassination that is to say01:01:11
intentional homicide with premeditation Mélanie01:01:13
Fleurie will be dismissed for complicity01:01:15
in assassination and Florian Poitrel will be01:01:17
dismissed for non-prevention of01:01:19
crime because he accused her of having01:01:20
known about this01:01:22
criminal project and of having done nothing to01:01:23
stopping01:01:31
the investigation did not make it possible to elucidate01:01:33
all the details of the shooting Damien01:01:35
Roland admits to having shot but01:01:37
was he really the only one who returned the01:01:40
body what is the exact role of Mélanie01:01:42
the trial which opens at the end November 201201:01:45
in Alençon will it make it possible to answer01:01:47
these questions01:01:51
that day there are three friends who01:01:54
meet in the box three young people01:01:55
in their twenties01:01:57
Mélanie in the center Florian her cousin on the01:02:00
right01:02:01
Damien her lover on the left01:02:06
we ask ourselves the question of what he01:02:08
is doing in the dock01:02:10
accused of an assassination01:02:12
because indeed he is a young01:02:15
man who presents well and who,01:02:18
with all the qualities, managed to do01:02:21
something other than finally being an01:02:23
assassin01:02:25
in the room the parents of the accused the01:02:28
Roland family and the fleurée family01:02:29
are all there to support their children01:02:33
at the bar Damien repeats what he01:02:36
always said during the investigation on01:02:38
Friday afternoon Mélanie told me said she01:02:40
was fed up that01:02:42
it had to be done the same evening01:02:44
[Music]01:02:45
she suggested to Arnaud a heist with01:02:47
me in a forest house she01:02:50
fixed the time and place of the meeting01:02:53
on the spot j I took advantage of Carnot and wanted01:02:56
to urinate to shoot him in the back01:03:03
and if he had not had this desire,01:03:04
the children's lawyer questions him, you01:03:07
would have done how01:03:09
I would not have done it, answers Damien01:03:12
and when the president asks him if01:03:14
Mélanie came to pick him up in the evening01:03:15
in a mood if they were the ones who returned01:03:18
the body Damien and Lude01:03:21
I stick to my version I am not here01:03:24
to push anyone down I have the impression01:03:26
that he wanted to take responsibility for himself -even01:03:29
he didn't try to lie to defend himself01:03:32
or everything he did he admitted01:03:34
so on the other hand he didn't want people to01:03:36
put things on him that he hadn't done01:03:37
but everything he did he did recognized him01:03:39
I think he protects Mélanie because01:03:42
he still cares about it and then well01:03:45
if there are things between them01:03:47
that we won't know it's I think01:03:49
[Music]01:03:56
put Barakat you are01:03:58
Damien Roland's lawyer can we01:04:00
clearly say that Mélanie is using him01:04:02
yes there is an important character in01:04:05
this case it is Florian Potrel who is01:04:07
Mélanie's cousin he will01:04:09
fully corroborate Damien's statements Rolland01:04:11
on the manipulations of Mélanie fleurie01:04:14
to01:04:15
install in the mind of Damien01:04:18
Rolland the need to eliminate arnogis01:04:21
and little by little all this will rise01:04:23
in the mind of Damien Rolland whom01:04:26
she knows is a child who had been01:04:28
himself- even01:04:29
mistreated that he had experienced the01:04:31
mistreatment of his mother so all this will01:04:33
echo in him in a very01:04:35
violent way that she plays on this string01:04:36
completely completely she is01:04:38
aware of this and she will01:04:41
repeatedly tell him if you01:04:43
like you have to do it you have to01:04:45
eliminate it and the age difference because she01:04:48
is 19 years old she is 26 there are01:04:50
7 years apart could that have played a role in01:04:52
that too yes she appears01:04:56
the guards Damien Roland not only01:04:57
as the lover but also as the01:05:00
sea that must be protected his childhood which was01:05:02
replaying itself yes that's exactly it that01:05:04
's exactly that that is to say that he01:05:06
himself experienced things as a child01:05:10
extremely difficult and it was like01:05:12
a chance a possibility to protect01:05:15
a mother like no one could protect his01:05:17
and to protect children01:05:19
like no one was able to protect him01:05:21
when he was a child and that the expert01:05:23
psychiatrist determines very well and01:05:26
explains it very well during his01:05:27
expertise and how do you organize01:05:29
your defense in fact what do you01:05:31
intend to plead I was keen to01:05:33
quote Voltaire I found that it was01:05:35
very fair since I I explained that01:05:38
three centuries ago Voltaire said that01:05:40
the weaknesses of men create the strength01:05:43
of women and I found that this was01:05:45
really01:05:47
all that allowed us to define this01:05:49
issue,01:05:50
that is to say Mélanie01:05:53
Fleurie's awareness of the flaws of Damien Rolland of01:05:56
his love for her of his affection01:05:59
for the children and the use of these01:06:04
flaws by effectively this work of01:06:07
seduction by this manipulation to01:06:11
achieve what she recognized herself,01:06:13
that is to say the elimination of arnologies01:06:15
because she said it herself during01:06:16
the trial it was the01:06:19
simplest thing it was the best solution he01:06:20
had to disappear01:06:24
the president wants to understand01:06:26
Mélanie's exact role she had complaint to01:06:29
Damien about Arnaud's violence then the01:06:31
magistrate asks him for details on01:06:32
his costs and his insults at the bar the01:06:35
young woman is confused she01:06:37
contradicts her answers not convincing01:06:40
she was a victim of her husband but in the01:06:43
process she did not defend and the few times01:06:45
she spoke it was also early on we01:06:46
could see that a lot of things weren't true01:06:48
so in the end I no longer know what01:06:51
is true and what isn't true when you have01:06:53
a room that is full like01:06:55
today today when you have a court01:06:56
which or a seated rope which is before01:06:57
you it is very difficult to speak to01:06:59
third parties and not to tell about one's01:07:01
intimate life one's most private life with01:07:03
very delicate things which are01:07:04
also rehashed very bad01:07:06
memories compared to what she may have01:07:08
experienced in the past01:07:10
during the hearing Mélanie recognizes01:07:12
certain lies I lied I did not01:07:15
denounce I did not prevent but you must01:07:17
not put everything on me her back01:07:19
and she turns to her cousin01:07:21
Florian01:07:24
and there Mélanie gets angry she comes out01:07:27
of herself she gets angry and says to him01:07:30
anyway you know what what we're01:07:34
talking about you know what we're talking about say it say it01:07:36
- it and everyone knows how to look01:07:38
more or less we said Ist01:07:40
the trial started a turn and Mélanie it's01:07:44
racialized she closed herself off and01:07:46
then beam Florian the same then a01:07:50
word nothing more01:07:52
for the father of Mélanie there is no01:07:54
doubt her daughter is not the main01:07:56
responsible for the tragedy if she had taken01:08:00
the gun if she had transported if01:08:01
she had transported Damien if she01:08:03
had been at the meeting if she had01:08:04
left her kids alone if with01:08:06
if we would do lots of things but there01:08:07
if she had been 150 to 100% active01:08:10
in the affair if she had taken the01:08:13
rifle then the cartridges in the coffee01:08:14
or returned to the field for me01:08:18
Mélanie suffered a set of things to01:08:22
From the moment she no longer reacted,01:08:26
my role was to demonstrate that01:08:28
it was not only01:08:31
Mélanie Fleury's fault that everything01:08:33
did not rest on her and that she01:08:35
was also the victim of arnologies which01:08:37
had also difficulties and that there01:08:40
was a distribution of the roles and the01:08:42
weight of each person in this affair,01:08:44
it was not Mélanie Fleury who pulled the01:08:46
trigger01:08:47
to make her react, Sandberg01:08:51
brandished before his eyes a photo of the01:08:52
three little ones it's time to tell the01:08:54
truth you owe it to the court and to your01:08:56
children one day they will ask you questions01:09:00
but Mélanie remains silent01:09:02
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she did everything to give this01:09:07
feeling that she was hiding something01:09:08
so just for that I think that01:09:10
these three days of hearing were really a missed opportunity01:09:12
because it was01:09:14
really the moment to express oneself01:09:15
freely and I think that we01:09:17
really missed these things,01:09:21
the trial is coming to an end. its end all01:09:24
eyes turn to Mélanie who01:09:26
seems absent hidden behind her long01:09:29
hair01:09:30
[Music]01:09:37
November 29, 2012 last day of the trial01:09:40
the general prosecutor demands 30 years of01:09:43
criminal imprisonment against Damien and the01:09:46
same sentence against Mélanie01:09:49
[Music]01:09:51
there had been plans that had been01:09:53
hatched which had begun to be brought to01:09:55
fruition without there ever having been any01:09:59
questioning that there had been any01:10:01
renunciation on either side and a01:10:04
crime which had been carried out 200 times by01:10:08
firearms01:10:10
in the conditions that you know,01:10:12
it seemed to me that it was actually deserved 3001:10:15
years of criminal imprisonment01:10:18
30 years as much for Damien the assassin as01:10:21
for Mélanie the instigator the01:10:24
criminal participation of Mélanie01:10:26
Fleury seemed decisive to me and her01:10:29
desire to see the crime to be realized01:10:31
without doubt01:10:33
its role was decisive01:10:36
and I considered that it must have the01:10:39
same quantum for both01:10:41
[Music]01:10:47
the verdict fell yesterday evening at01:10:48
the Orne assizes 20 years of01:10:51
criminal imprisonment for the two lovers01:10:52
involved in the death of a 2801:10:54
year old man in July 2010 near l'Aigle01:10:57
Damien is sentenced to 20 years for01:10:59
murder Mélanie is 20 years old for01:11:03
complicity01:11:04
when I heard 20 years for my01:11:06
brother01:11:08
I was shocked for a while It's a lot01:11:10
but I was shocked because I01:11:12
expected them to take 30 years01:11:13
with something that can't come out before01:11:16
I don't know how long01:11:18
so yes 20 years we'll say she's01:11:20
crazy anyway c it's a lot but I was01:11:22
shocked on the other hand when I heard 2001:11:25
years for Mélanie I said it's deserved01:11:28
that everyone assumes she just lied01:11:31
that's what we accuse her of lying01:11:33
we're not looking to know why we do01:11:35
n't know to know the why the cause and01:11:38
effect and who did what01:11:53
he would have really participated in I would01:11:56
n't even go see him today I wo01:11:58
n't go see him in prison but for me he didn't01:12:00
do01:12:02
anything verdict which confirms an immense01:12:04
waste that evening two friends of 21 years01:12:07
and a young mother go to prison for01:12:11
many years01:12:12
[Music]01:12:16
master Barakat your client took 2001:12:20
years he did not appeal01:12:22
is that what it means say that he considers that01:12:24
his sentence is fair01:12:26
yes you still have a boy who01:12:29
has never requested01:12:30
release who has never contested his01:12:33
responsibility and the need to be01:12:35
heavily sanctioned so there is a01:12:38
actually accepting this sentence,01:12:40
moreover, we still had01:12:42
significant consideration of his01:12:45
personality since we had a01:12:46
very substantial reduction in the01:12:49
sentence compared to the requisitions, which01:12:51
means that the Court, the jurors01:12:54
understood who they had to do01:12:57
they understood that01:13:00
Damien Rolland is not this01:13:05
infamous murderer that one might imagine that we are01:13:08
really about a young man who was01:13:10
yes trapped in a story and01:13:13
a woman who wanted to get rid01:13:17
of his companion and that he was used01:13:20
and Florian Potrel moreover had said01:13:22
something very interesting he01:13:24
had said if it had not been good01:13:26
Roland it would have been another he is01:13:29
still in contact with Mélanie he01:13:32
s 'write where he writes to her she wrote to him01:13:36
several times to my knowledge01:13:38
he did not answer her01:13:40
[Music]01:13:47
Arlette01:13:48
Mélanie and Damien took 20 years does01:13:52
that seem fair to you it's cheap01:13:54
country01:13:58
of 30 years even 30 years old it's not surprising01:14:00
for having removed the card my01:14:03
son's life it's not expensive to pay01:14:07
it's okay I don't agree at01:14:09
all that frankly it's something that01:14:11
I don't appreciate that I can't get01:14:14
over someone's life is being taken away and01:14:16
that's all it takes.01:14:18
You think that Mélanie is guilty01:14:24
because my mother is sending01:14:26
me a letter to ask for forgiveness for01:14:29
all this that she had done yeah01:14:35
Mélanie's parents took in01:14:37
their three grandchildren whom they are01:14:39
now raising, they are entirely01:14:41
responsible for them every week they take them to01:14:44
see their mother in prison01:14:47
[Music]Description:
Le samedi 10 juillet 2010, Mélanie Fleury signale la disparition de son mari Arnaud Ghys à la gendarmerie de l'Aigle, dans l'Orne. Le lendemain, les gendarmes découvrent le corps du disparu à l'orée d'un bois : on lui a tiré dans le dos. Les enquêteurs découvrent que l'homme a déjà eu de sérieux démêlés avec la justice pour des vols et #braquages. Il a même fait cinq ans de prison. Mélanie finit par confier son penchant pour la boisson depuis qu'il était au chômage et qu'il était un habitué des sites de rencontres. A la surprise générale, ce sont trois personnes au-dessus de tout soupçon qui prennent place dans le box des accusés de la cour d'assises d'Alençon en 2011. Le drame de l'Aigle est devenu celui d'une famille entière. 🔎 Sommaire : 00:00 - Affaire Fleury - Introduction. 01:15 - Disparition et découverte du corps de Arnaud Ghys. 07:24 - Interview avec la mère de la victime. 09:39 - Une veuve en deuil, et bien entourée. 11:06 - Le sombre passé de Arnaud Ghys et sa rencontre avec Mélanie. 13:55 - La dernière journée de Arnaud Ghys : Alcool et Arnaque. 19:32 - Détails scientifiques du meurtre (arme du crime, positions...) 21:59 - Menaces nocturnes. 23:21 - Alcoolisme, chômage et violence. 27:00 - Sites de rencontres, le vice-caché d'Arnaud Ghys: la nouvelle piste ? 33:25 - Le meurtrier à son propre enterrement ? Un suspect se dévoile. 38:15 - La juge d'instruction témoigne. 41:21 - Interpellation des suspects et révélations. 49:41 - La place de Florian Potrel dans l'affaire. 52:47 - Les familles découvre la situation. 55:57 - Damien Rolland, manipulé ? 56:23 - La famille en part en éclats. 58:08 - Responsabilité de chacun. 01:01:50 - Le procès de l'affaire Fleury. 01:03:50 - Interview de l'avocate de Damien Rolland. 01:06:24 - Mélanie et sa prestation peu convaincante. 01:09:36 - Le jugement final. 01:12:16 - Une sanction acceptée par Damien Rolland. 01:14:32 - Conclusion et conséquences de l'affaire Fleury. 🔎 S'abonner à Faites entrer l'accusé : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrjIfq-eWK9BTUhPgQ2IFFg/?sub_confirmation=1 🔎 Bienvenue sur la chaine officielle de Faites entrer l’accusé (FELA). L'émission, créée en 2000 est diffusée sur RMC Story, tous les dimanches soirs. Chaque épisode retrace l'une des grandes affaires criminelles françaises jugées depuis les années 1950 : l'affaire Grégory, l'affaire Christian Ranucci, l'assassinat du juge Michel,... Les épisodes sont présentés par Christophe Hondelatte, puis par Frédérique Lantieri, suivi de Rachid M'Barki et depuis septembre 2023 par Christophe Delay. Dominique Rizet est le chroniqueur régulier de l'émission. 🔎 Une production 17 Juin
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