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our guest Dmitry Bykov writer,00:01:07
journalist, writer and poet Dmitry00:01:10
Lvovich Hello00:01:13
Hello dear friends We were00:01:15
late for me I ran from the lecture but00:01:18
fortunately we still made it within the limits of a00:01:21
gentleman's professorial delay of00:01:23
12 minutes Yes, we quite managed to do it and Dmitry00:01:27
Lvovich Well, we00:01:30
'll probably have time to talk a little more about the lecture closer towards the end00:01:31
I wanted to go for a run with you as usual According to00:01:33
current news and then touch on00:01:36
something that may be more eternal at the00:01:39
beginning of the week this00:01:41
terrible creepy story happened with a sledgehammer00:01:44
yesterday's prisoner and former00:01:45
mercenary dude Wagner Evgeniy should have been00:01:48
killed with a blow from a sledgehammer demonstratively for the00:01:50
cameras it is clear that the goal intimidate but you00:01:54
understand Who exactly and why you00:01:58
understand the story here is quite00:02:01
ambiguous I asked many Ukrainian00:02:05
acquaintances, including quite00:02:08
high-ranking ones, about00:02:10
what actually happened And if the main00:02:14
Ukrainian versions are the first thing that is needed was not00:02:17
captured But was captured and00:02:21
captured Zelensky did not give any guarantees that they would be00:02:24
exchanged only in accordance with their00:02:26
wishes, that is,00:02:29
it means that00:02:30
his Ukrainian government had and the second00:02:34
version, which was expressed by a00:02:36
public podolek who, in my opinion, did not stand up to00:02:38
any criticism at all that00:02:40
Evgeniy is needed, he himself signed the request00:02:43
that to exchange him in my opinion is00:02:46
really00:02:48
on the verge of absurdity I understand the right of00:02:52
Zelensky who was offered or00:02:54
I did not make a decision the right of the Ukrainian00:02:57
military who were offered00:03:01
in exchange 20 Some call the figure 4000:03:05
other prisoners for 1 needed But there is00:03:09
another version according to which it00:03:11
was needed at all merits, the Cossack did not pass a00:03:13
polygraph test. But if this was00:03:16
so, there was probably no need to rush00:03:17
to post an interview with him, do not pass off00:03:20
this interview as pure, and in any case, I00:03:23
can say one thing: I would not want to00:03:26
criticize Zelensky and I completely00:03:29
agree with what was said. In June, in an00:03:33
interview with the position of Gennady Korban, who was00:03:35
subsequently deprived of citizenship,00:03:38
we will express all our claims to Zelensky00:03:40
after the war, relatively speaking, at00:03:43
six o’clock in the evening after the war, but one cannot help but00:03:45
say that if needed, it00:03:48
was really exchanged, and the guarantee that the00:03:54
President of Ukraine had previously given to prisoners and defectors was someone about the personal00:03:56
president, this seems to me, to put it mildly, a00:04:00
big mistake, if we say00:04:01
more harshly, it is still an absolutely00:04:04
inhuman00:04:06
act, even if we consider that we need a00:04:09
very bad person, absolutely everything in his00:04:12
previous biography, not only that he committed00:04:15
hooliganism for murder and that he00:04:17
laid out his A photo with a straightened00:04:20
torso and told how he would go to00:04:23
fight, no matter what he was, he was00:04:25
still a man and it was wrong to give him up for00:04:28
execution, so we are00:04:30
waiting for that version of the Truth, which I am00:04:34
sure should be voiced by the Ukrainian00:04:35
side. After all, I repeat these words all the time.00:04:37
Ukraine is at war. not for becoming00:04:40
Russia Russia lies a lot We00:04:43
would like to get objective00:04:45
information about what actually happened and this00:04:48
sledgehammer will hit the image of the Ukrainian authorities with enormous force00:04:53
Dmitry Lvovich but still you understand00:04:55
In the end, why and for whom was this00:04:58
video filmed00:05:01
I think for two categories of people, first00:05:05
for those recruited, this is what will happen to you00:05:07
If you don’t go to fight or defect00:05:09
to the other side and the second, to show00:05:12
Yevgeny Prigozhin, everything is possible in Russia00:05:14
today, everything is possible for two people, one of them is00:05:17
Yevgeny Prigozhin, the second is Ramzan Kadyrov00:05:20
about Vladimir Putin By the way, I’m far from00:05:22
so sure, I think by the way, I don’t00:05:25
believe that Vladimir Putin has00:05:27
any moral barriers, but I think that00:05:31
it is Kadyrova Prigogine who00:05:34
today has such a terrible mania-like00:05:37
desire to constantly demonstrate her00:05:40
own extremes and some00:05:42
lawlessness, and this is necessary for one thing00:05:45
so that00:05:47
here I have one Fatal00:05:51
contradiction that is not only me,00:05:53
which is especially noticeable in today's00:05:56
Russia,00:05:57
if today's Russia demonstrates to the00:06:00
whole world that it is ready to violate00:06:03
any restrictions, that there are no00:06:06
moral prohibitions for it, that its owners of00:06:09
private military companies can00:06:11
proceed with the law in any quantity and00:06:14
this law is not written to them.00:06:16
Please tell me, then why are we fighting? We are a00:06:19
stronghold of what spirituality; if we are00:06:22
afraid of lawlessness, then just say so00:06:25
if we are fighting for our personal right to be00:06:27
lawless, to be lawless in our own country00:06:30
with our fighters, he is there to Alexei Navalny,00:06:32
another crazy guy they soldered because00:06:35
she didn’t put away the jackets that they had already00:06:37
scattered for him. We have every right to go00:06:39
wild with our neighbors00:06:41
who supposedly go into the zone of our00:06:44
solitality if we fight lawlessness for the00:06:47
lawlessness of Russia in all00:06:49
respects, you say so00:06:52
Dmitry Lvovich You’ve raised another topic00:06:55
quite acute and complex, but I00:06:57
still want to know this question to you00:06:59
now, I think for many there is such an00:07:02
obvious thing that it is unacceptable to criticize the actions of the00:07:05
Ukrainian side00:07:06
at this moment00:07:09
because the state of war and so on, but on the00:07:10
other hand, don’t pay attention00:07:12
to what -the inconsistencies are also somehow00:07:14
wrong, so you decide for yourself how this00:07:16
internal conflict is resolved, he00:07:20
has the right to his own fools, he00:07:23
told us about this many times.00:07:24
However, this is the word of Zhivotinsky that00:07:27
every nation has the right to his own cannot00:07:32
be remembered.00:07:34
We love Christ so much that we can00:07:37
afford to to disagree with him is00:07:40
of course a00:07:43
complex thought Controversial by00:07:48
Christ, but if we see the mistakes of the00:07:51
Ukrainian side, we expect to talk about it00:07:53
again Ukraine, she00:08:03
just constantly emphasizes the00:08:06
spiritual moral side of this war,00:08:09
they defend themselves,00:08:12
they did not attack anyone, all the public pages00:08:15
I went around the photos where the most complex00:08:18
heart surgery without light, with candles and00:08:21
flashlights, is carried out by00:08:23
Ukrainian doctors if Ukraine is fighting to be00:08:27
different from Russia, first00:08:29
of all, according to its moral rules. I00:08:32
think it should follow this00:08:34
postulate.00:08:35
Okay. Then I wanted to move on to another topic00:08:38
about,00:08:42
of course, one more thing, you know if Ukraine00:08:46
exchanged it is necessary for by the way, here we need a00:08:50
really00:08:51
terrible pun here Because when all00:08:54
parties00:08:55
And somehow it rhymes strangely, Evgeniy00:08:58
is needed00:08:59
and I’m afraid that Evgeniy Prigozhin did not00:09:03
model his mistake here somehow And00:09:06
who will come, he usually uses sledgehammers but here00:09:10
Another thing is important,00:09:12
we can discuss the morality or00:09:15
immorality of exchanging prisoners, we can00:09:17
argue about whether the president of Ukraine or00:09:21
military Ukraine had the moral right to exchange00:09:23
one, obviously a very bad person must be exchanged00:09:25
for 20 or 40 Ukrainian prisoners, this is a00:09:28
fatal question. This is a moral dilemma.00:09:30
Is it possible to00:09:32
sacrifice one for the sake of saving 20? It is an eternal00:09:36
tradition in Russian literature to discuss00:09:38
such things. You can argue about this. But00:09:40
then let’s tell the truth. Let’s00:09:42
give away the water ones. But we are not calling for the military secret to be00:09:46
revealed; we are calling for the revelation of the00:09:48
moral mystery that envelops it; but00:09:50
Call a thing by its proper name, then we00:09:53
can understand, accept it, but for starters, Don’t00:09:56
I have to lie00:09:59
Yes, Dmitry, let’s move on to another00:10:02
topic. I think you have00:10:04
answered this question comprehensively. Well, we can return to it.00:10:07
We still see protests00:10:10
of the mobilized, we see them more and more often,00:10:12
protests of their relatives, for example, I00:10:16
was recently at the training ground in Patriot Park00:10:18
in In the suburbs of Moscow, one of the mobilized00:10:21
literally threatened to punch an officer in the face,00:10:24
not just another officer for a second. Do you00:10:27
think these local protests can00:10:29
develop into something more in some00:10:31
large areas?00:10:33
Well, I don’t think that they will grow into big00:10:37
riots, the problem is that00:10:40
certain Uprisings against officers00:10:43
took place in Russia already in the 15th and00:10:46
massive sixteenth year in the00:10:49
sixteenth end already at the front they killed the00:10:51
agitation that just imitated a00:10:54
victorious end for the war people were tired of00:10:57
the war They generally quickly They were tired of00:11:00
military propaganda I would like to00:11:02
emphasize one thing here quite an00:11:04
important thing for00:11:06
me too It’s bitter enough to talk about this00:11:09
After all, in fact, two things00:11:11
pushed the end of the war on the one hand,00:11:15
hatred of the candidate officer, the00:11:17
attitude of the Russian officers, by the way, the00:11:20
soldiers were in the00:11:22
fourteenth and sixteenth years much00:11:23
better than they were now officers, popular00:11:26
soldiers were officers who, together with00:11:30
soldiers were in payouts who00:11:31
took risks, they were only those who, as we00:11:34
know today from many messages,00:11:36
leave the soldiers to their fate. This is the00:11:39
first trend, but there was a second, but00:11:42
on the fronts, fatigue from the war reached the point00:11:44
that there were massive Britain, so they00:11:47
sent me a question from Kiev for Christmas00:11:51
German English Soldiers played00:11:53
football and then again went their separate ways00:11:56
and began to kill each other But there00:11:58
were already fraternities at the fronts and now00:12:00
they ask me: Can I imagine a00:12:02
brother of non-Russian Ukrainians on the fronts today? No, I00:12:05
can’t absolutely, it’s absolutely impossible that00:12:07
hatred on both sides reaches Well, I do00:12:11
n’t know how much Russian as much as00:12:12
hatred as much as it is an induction of00:12:14
propaganda, but Ukraine now has every00:12:16
reason to reject any00:12:18
body of fraternization, so local00:12:21
uprisings alone are not enough; you understand the war. You00:12:23
need to end it with something,00:12:25
but the war cannot end in peace00:12:27
where Propaganda on both sides00:12:29
dehumanizes the enemy completely00:12:31
recklessly on one side all Russian00:12:34
slaves the other all Ukrainians are Banderaites and00:12:36
traitors this is hatred So pumped up00:12:39
what do you want to do I can’t help but00:12:41
imagine Russians playing football with00:12:43
Ukrainians And this is not the result of propaganda00:12:45
this is the result of Gucci’s patience with new00:12:49
saves that are And increasingly00:12:51
in Kherson and this It’s just the beginning, as we00:12:54
understand it, but it’s impossible to imagine, I’m00:12:57
not even talking about Mariupol, I’m not really00:12:59
introducing myself to you, to be honest, on the one00:13:01
hand, the uprising as a whole00:13:04
can be imagined, but there’s no way to fraternize, and without00:13:06
this, I don’t know how to say there’s00:13:10
another dilemma in this00:13:13
There are stories about these00:13:15
very protests, I see how00:13:18
opinions are divided. In our chats, in particular,00:13:19
opinions appear quite polar in this regard.00:13:22
Some say that, of course,00:13:24
such people who protest should be00:13:26
supported by others. On the contrary, they say that00:13:28
they are not against the war, but00:13:30
against the fact that their equipment is00:13:31
somehow not the same and they are not ready to kill,00:13:33
so it seems to you that if there is00:13:36
really some kind of dilemma here and00:13:39
you somehow decide for yourself which00:13:41
side you take at this point.00:13:43
Well, do you generally see the Russian mythology00:13:47
of betrayal very well developed in00:13:50
Russia traitors are called love If a00:13:52
person does not want to go to a criminal00:13:55
aggressive brother murderous00:13:58
absolutely immoral cruel war00:14:00
Call him a traitor simply means00:14:03
denying any morality and the right of any00:14:06
person to make a moral choice This is00:14:08
what I will never say with these I am00:14:10
never embarrassed this is the first Now00:14:13
second You see,00:14:15
in Russia today the confusion of the propagandists themselves is very acutely felt, how00:14:23
this war is being waged, how the00:14:27
Russians are positioning themselves in this00:14:29
situation, the Russians, how00:14:32
the propagandists work absolutely and00:14:35
determined by simple things of00:14:37
contradicting themselves at every step, then we are the00:14:40
strongest, then they crushed us00:14:42
forced00:14:44
identification at home, we are fighting, waiting for the last00:14:48
Ukrainian, then we are fraternal peoples, then00:14:50
Ukraine is dear in a monstrous text,00:14:53
monstrous propaganda, then the Ukrainians00:14:56
have betrayed the Russians forever Well, in general, there is no00:14:59
unity, what do you want to fight for? The00:15:01
main thing is what kind of enthusiasm do you want from the00:15:08
conscripts If you cannot00:15:10
provide them with even the so-called coffin00:15:13
even if00:15:16
all you can offer them is a00:15:19
mortgage for an apartment and for a car,00:15:21
some00:15:22
benefits, you understand, that is, a person must00:15:24
come to terms with the fact that his family is,00:15:27
as it were, selling him, they are all ready00:15:30
to put up with this, and Kiriyenko says let’s00:15:33
make a war, the people have already00:15:35
Various stuffings appear on different channels that00:15:38
martial law will be introduced in Moscow,00:15:39
that we should expect total mobilization,00:15:42
that this is precisely why there will be no New Year00:15:44
holidays,00:15:46
harsh Moscow in 1941, when the main thing00:15:50
for New Year’s was a piece of bread, if you were lucky00:15:54
with the American one, so you understand00:15:57
The problem is that if00:16:00
you00:16:02
want to make this war a people's war00:16:05
Let's at least00:16:08
where are the people and what do they want,00:16:11
Dmitry Lvovich, just based on00:16:13
this, it seems to me that the key question in00:16:16
history in general, in your memory,00:16:18
have there been cases in history when a country00:16:21
in which there is no unity of opinion among00:16:23
propagandists when Private is literally00:16:26
threatens to hit an officer in the face and this00:16:29
happens in different parts of the country, has00:16:31
it ever happened that in such conditions it was the00:16:33
country itself that ended up winning the war00:16:44
in regions where all sorts of conflicts also00:16:47
happened,00:16:56
which also mocked the Achilles,00:17:21
loves Homer Tersi this or not, matercity00:17:24
is always there and the other you understand00:17:26
that00:17:28
I will also say a bitter thing for a00:17:32
full-fledged Uprising; moreover, for a00:17:34
full-fledged peace, violations of00:17:37
military discipline are not enough because they saw00:17:44
Punch the officers in the face, they threaten and,00:17:48
moreover, they write that they were thrown into a00:17:51
flat field and that they are fed that they do00:17:52
n’t give uniforms to the ammunition, but they are00:17:56
all anyway They are going to00:17:58
mobilize anyway That is, this is an option00:18:05
Because you can’t help but be called in. The00:18:07
concept touched on too serious Well, why am00:18:11
I against it How is it possible that’s why they00:18:15
recently gave a wonderful poster of a00:18:17
cat near the refrigerator, a beam00:18:20
of light and the signature you live in a quarry00:18:28
is understood even by a cat So for now the00:18:32
concept itself a homeland for people absolutely00:18:34
eliminates any discussions, any complaints You won’t be00:18:37
full-fledged, of course You00:18:39
can’t talk about the mind knocking00:18:44
doesn’t mean refusing to go carry out the00:18:47
criminal orders of such people I’m00:18:49
ready for now I’m not watching on a large scale00:18:53
yet Moreover, I’m not seeing any enthusiasm00:18:57
for this war I’m seeing00:18:59
inertia obedience and fear At what00:19:03
point will this point of00:19:06
infurcation be passed At what point will00:19:10
going to war be more terrible than00:19:13
avoiding it I predict I can’t00:19:16
think that this requires some more00:19:19
decisive events00:19:22
Dmitry wanted to move on to the topic of education00:19:25
just a couple of days ago the Ministry of Defense00:19:27
supported the introduction of military training in00:19:30
schools, it is clear that many parents00:19:33
again began to worry, this means it was00:19:35
Propaganda, now there will be military00:19:37
training next, and so on, I wanted to00:19:39
ask you a broader question, in your00:19:41
opinion, in general, what function should a school have,00:19:44
that is, should it only00:19:46
educate or including education00:19:48
and is it so bad, abstracting from the00:19:52
Russian situation, for example, it’s not worth introducing00:19:53
military training in schools,00:20:22
doesn’t force you to go on campaigns00:20:25
because everyone understands that the army should00:20:26
be, firstly,00:20:27
voluntary and secondly, mother’s CIS,00:20:31
but I would still00:20:33
say that the military preparation in00:20:37
itself Yes, like any thing It is not00:20:39
bad, not bad, there is nothing bad in00:20:42
children doing war00:20:44
games like Zarnitsa, going on hikes,00:20:46
training, I’ll say more, I00:20:49
have nothing against children learning00:20:50
to shoot because it will always be useful in life00:20:53
And will not always come to shoot at00:20:55
the enemy, I generally believe that if00:20:57
the carrying of weapons in the country is allowed, this is at00:21:01
least a guarantee of the inviolability of00:21:02
your home. But this is the first question about this, you00:21:05
can argue, I mean that the00:21:08
military training that is imposed on00:21:10
children today is the military training that I00:21:12
remember very well I’m in Soviet00:21:14
times when everyone mocked their00:21:16
hands when these hands themselves were00:21:19
a symbol Well, what can I say about stupidity00:21:20
then00:21:22
patriotic slogans were brought in everyone’s00:21:25
teeth when the same veterans00:21:27
said the same words and they themselves00:21:28
understood how boring it was and I in general00:21:32
openly they winked at us, I00:21:34
understand perfectly well, to what extent all this is00:21:37
false, so the preparation of preparing00:21:40
roses, I can clearly tell you in the new00:21:42
Russia,00:21:43
free Russia,00:21:46
military training00:21:48
Civil defense, the ability to shoot, the00:21:50
ability to protect yourself and00:21:54
your home if something happens, I think this will be part of the00:21:56
Civil Code, but for this is needed00:22:01
Well, again continuing the line of00:22:03
education, this week a00:22:06
certain military-patriotic00:22:08
dictation was held in schools as the goal was stated to unite the00:22:10
young generation around the highest00:22:11
values. I would like to ask you, in the00:22:14
beautiful Russia of the future, in your opinion, what are00:22:16
these highest values and what are they?00:22:19
there must be00:22:30
values,00:22:34
the ability to treat00:22:37
state propaganda with ridicule, that the00:22:39
younger generation will and will be washed away, I00:22:49
really hope that the young generation is00:22:52
wonderful Russia of the future will be critical,00:22:55
including that00:23:00
it will be possible to argue with this00:23:03
government as now in Ukraine, you can00:23:05
still can hurt00:23:21
for God’s sake00:23:26
We have a very interesting dynamic going on right now, here00:23:30
in America there is a00:23:33
demand for an audit of aid to Ukraine, this00:23:36
demand is expressed in a basically00:23:38
Trumpian way, there is no doubt00:23:41
that the main content of Russian foreign policy in the00:23:43
near future will be the support of the00:23:46
Republicans for an absolutely00:23:48
foreign policy and intensive support for00:23:51
Trump, also actively interfering with the00:23:53
American elections which one way or00:23:55
another, the main world topic of 24-23, I00:23:59
understand that the Transit of Power in Russia is00:24:00
very much on everyone’s mind in Russia, but the world is00:24:02
mainly occupied now by the00:24:04
American Collegium, I00:24:08
can’t even imagine the kind of jubilation that reigns00:24:10
now in propaganda channels00:24:14
about this desire of America00:24:16
to stop or limit or audit00:24:19
assistance to Zelensky and I. I can’t imagine00:24:22
what kind of orgy in support of00:24:24
Trump will be on Russian channels and what00:24:27
scale Russian00:24:29
interference in the American Elections will reach. This00:24:32
seems to me to be quite a serious challenge. I00:24:35
don’t know how America will react. But00:24:37
what’s the main agenda? in Russia00:24:39
it will be the American agenda and not00:24:42
their own problems, this is, in my opinion, a00:24:44
woman viewer00:24:46
Lvovich But you communicate with00:24:48
American students, in principle, with00:24:50
Americans But tell me what kind of00:24:53
mood you observe they are in. Is it00:24:54
really So, the opinion is00:24:56
inclined in favor of war fatigue00:24:58
audit of assistance to Ukraine and support for the00:25:01
Republicans, do you feel this00:25:03
change,00:25:04
yes No, it did not bend anywhere and the00:25:07
famous Red Wave And the powerful victory of the00:25:09
Republicans in the elections of the Senate and00:25:11
Congress, I understand that in general it failed,00:25:15
nothing like that happened,00:25:16
they control it approximately in half That is,00:25:19
in general, if we consider this against the00:25:22
backdrop of expectations Only, of course, defeat,00:25:24
but I’m interested in something else. These, in my opinion, are00:25:27
really serious problems, and there is no00:25:30
better way00:25:31
to harm the Republicans and the00:25:34
trampoline than for Russia to start00:25:37
supporting them. The fact is that00:25:38
massive support from00:25:40
Russia is today. Russia00:25:43
has brought a black mark to the point00:25:45
that any statement of hers, any00:25:48
statement by diplomats00:25:51
in favor of this or that politician,00:25:54
artist, person,00:25:57
no matter what Russia says today, all this00:26:00
is perceived exactly the opposite.00:26:02
Look, right00:26:04
there at the same time, the Dutch verdict,00:26:07
which once again confirmed that, after00:26:09
all, all the facts have now been stated00:26:13
that the shot was fired by the00:26:15
separatists, the responsibility is00:26:17
assigned, at least there, to the imprisonment of like-minded00:26:20
shooting accomplices,00:26:23
well, how else is this really all00:26:27
characterizing Russia in a very00:26:29
definite way, in general, then you are00:26:31
publicly00:26:32
supported by a murderer of any decency, a00:26:35
terrorist. This somehow does not have a very good00:26:37
effect on you and less no matter how00:26:39
Gorky says it, therefore, it is impossible to00:26:41
give a better gift to the Democrats than00:26:44
from Russia, starting now is00:26:45
intensively supported by the Republicans. But00:26:48
judging by the territory that has already begun in Russia, they00:26:52
make us remember the wonderful words of the00:26:55
children's poet that they are doing an eccentric.00:26:58
He is doing everything wrong,00:26:59
yes. We remember that even before the elections,00:27:02
Russia supported Marid Le Pen and00:27:04
then we know how it ended, and00:27:07
Dmitry Lvovich since you mentioned the00:27:08
Hague court itself, the city00:27:11
tribunal wanted to ask you separately about the00:27:14
rifleman Girkin, he was sentenced to00:27:16
life imprisonment, but the main question is00:27:20
related to his personality, how much00:27:22
in your opinion is he responsible for what00:27:24
is happening now for the war and what is00:27:27
the phenomenon of his popularity among the pro-00:27:29
military public in your opinion00:27:34
took upon himself personally and repeatedly his00:27:37
own words I started a war00:27:39
egocentric such when the Sokolov center00:27:42
in general00:27:43
restorers a person public00:27:45
demonstrative demonstrative Personality00:27:47
of narcissism these are obvious traits such00:27:50
somewhat schizoid sagics but there’s nothing00:27:52
you can do about it, it’s popular among the patriotic00:27:55
public. Why is00:27:57
there00:27:58
such interest among shooters? He positions himself as an00:28:02
officer with a white bone. He doesn’t00:28:04
position himself as a murderer, although00:28:06
who remembers him at all? They say00:28:08
that killing gave him great00:28:10
pleasure, but he really and the00:28:12
officer always emphasizes the military bone.00:28:15
that he wants the military, I don’t00:28:17
know how much in general what it is and00:28:19
where in the body it is very located Well,00:28:21
these are00:28:22
the romanticizations of the dogs of war that come00:28:25
from Limonov, but in fact the tradition is00:28:28
more ancient people who need00:28:30
people who don’t know how to do anything except00:28:32
kill But they do it very well, let00:28:35
them serve the patriotic cause. In00:28:37
our country, the cult of patriotic murder is00:28:40
very widespread, as is the cult of00:28:42
heroic death. Girkin positions00:28:44
himself as a white officer, so00:28:48
disciplined. With what pleasure does00:28:49
he talk about the fact that he needs a competent00:28:52
tripod to strategically formulate the00:28:54
Great Plans, how he emphasizes his00:28:57
birth for the war, his00:28:59
aspiration, his noble00:29:00
grace, his mustache, his whole00:29:03
bearing and cult of this, having thrown it all away in00:29:06
him, it is extremely reminiscent of the White00:29:09
Guard. In addition, everything is honorable that he is00:29:11
so sweet in the Russian military uniform00:29:13
until the last whip, as he00:29:16
has never seen again, I’ll put it bluntly I am very skeptical00:29:19
of restorers and00:29:21
military buffs and a fan of murder, but00:29:24
one cannot help but admit that Girkin’s image has00:29:27
consequences, especially considering that he00:29:28
constantly criticizes Putin00:29:32
as if he is not enough. Putin00:29:36
now about his future fate, I00:29:39
honestly have serious doubts00:29:41
because he offered a choice of00:29:44
either heroic death in war. I don’t00:29:46
know where he is now, they say that yes, there00:29:49
was no news from him for a long time, or00:29:52
life imprisonment, the choice in my opinion is not00:29:55
very good, the third option would be00:29:57
to lead Russia and become a military00:29:59
dictator, but something shows me what to00:30:01
do this they won’t give it to him00:30:04
That is, in principle, like00:30:07
the fate of Prigogine and Kadyrov, relatively speaking, the fate of00:30:10
Girkin is in even greater danger in this00:30:12
sense. The00:30:13
fact is that in Russia, a sincerely00:30:18
sincere Patriot is such a graphomaniac, he00:30:23
wrote a fabulous one, he is generally a person with00:30:26
ambitions with immediate vanity, I00:30:30
admit that he I just very sincerely00:30:34
wished that the air would be thrown by chips, but00:30:37
he would follow in this, he was still taking risks,00:30:40
he is a sincere person, I do not approve of him00:30:43
at all, but you see, the sincere ones caught him,00:30:45
they say there the thief is a bloodsucker to me with his greatness,00:30:47
but I won’t say it’s nicer in this sense00:30:50
bloodsucker I personally have ideas a00:30:52
convinced, consistent person and a00:30:55
genius. That is, he leads00:30:58
absolutely, he acts,00:30:59
he is guided by the desire for Glory,00:31:02
the desire to kill, one can argue with such a person.00:31:05
What did Navalny do, by the way?00:31:07
They held discussions, but the fact is00:31:11
that sincerely patriots of Russia,00:31:12
absolutely Russia needs that Patriot00:31:15
who can always take undervalued00:31:17
places and This place is for him to spin by saying But00:31:20
then you stole so much and that’s why00:31:23
Russia needed these borders00:31:25
It’s the boilers, they’re bloodsuckers because00:31:28
with ideological sincere people the current00:31:31
government doesn’t know what to do the current00:31:33
government itself is distinguished by an absolute00:31:35
lack of ideas and clear concepts00:31:37
Therefore, I have a serious suspicion00:31:40
that Girkin, like any people of00:31:42
conviction, does not have a single chance in today’s Russia,00:31:45
but you mentioned00:31:47
consistency, I understand correctly00:31:49
that according to your thoughts,00:31:51
consistency is almost the00:31:52
main feature for a politician00:31:54
to be popular and to supporters00:31:56
were ready to vote for him and there,00:31:58
roughly speaking, to die,00:32:03
frankly, we are a terrible confession. But what00:32:06
can we do? I generally believe that if a00:32:08
person does not have his own system of values,00:32:10
he has absolutely nothing to do in00:32:13
politics, I’ll tell you more in the conditions of00:32:16
totality and moralism of the modern world00:32:19
when we really don’t know what is00:32:21
moral, what is immoral,00:32:24
all this is mixed up many times, we can00:32:27
only assess the consequences of how00:32:31
confident a person is in himself and how ready he is to00:32:34
risk his life. Here in Ukraine,00:32:39
I myself was there recently, I observed in00:32:43
Ukraine a huge number of people live00:32:45
as if they were already died and00:32:49
correspondence with them as my childhood00:32:52
Kiev friends, I00:32:55
often have the feeling that they have already decided00:32:59
for themselves, we are all condemned if we00:33:01
survive this big, sentenced not by00:33:03
someone spoken to themselves Freedom or00:33:06
death,00:33:10
they really have nowhere to retreat now,00:33:12
and by the way, the Russians are forty in the first00:33:15
year this should also have been close to00:33:17
very understand retreat no And here it’s only00:33:20
either Freedom or death I see in Ukraine00:33:25
such a stylistic integrity such a00:33:28
consistency of a00:33:37
solid body of potatoes with meat so00:33:41
it seems to me that the00:33:43
consistency of the politician at00:33:46
least his willingness to risk his life00:33:49
does not risk Yashin Karamusa this today00:33:52
is the main one Good afternoon, so I have00:33:54
confidence that today plus00:33:57
the prisoners are tomorrow00:33:59
and Dmitry Alexey Navalny was mentioned and00:34:03
this week the European Union introduced sanctions00:34:05
against his poisoners and as I understand00:34:07
among them there are those people who00:34:08
prepared including yours poisoning and00:34:12
I have such a question, you somehow about00:34:14
this, maybe you are gloating00:34:16
somewhere in the depths of your soul, and in general, what is00:34:18
your attitude towards these people00:34:23
about I don’t worry, they are executors and00:34:26
modules of the order, the order is very stupid00:34:30
because they followed the most the primitive path00:34:32
according to the list of the00:34:35
Coordination Council is very interesting00:34:38
in Russia, but I say everything clearly from00:34:40
Zelensky’s initials and the main symbols00:34:43
of the special operation SK X committee and00:34:48
corruption council This is an abbreviation that is00:34:50
symmetrical and opposed to each00:34:52
other, well, in general, an emergency as we used to say00:34:56
and, as it were, a kchp and so on00:34:59
Funny they really followed the list00:35:01
they were ordered what they did00:35:04
about these people I don’t know I know in00:35:08
Ukraine just now I was exchanging one man, a00:35:10
priest in Donetsk, he could have00:35:15
come from Donetsk because his son00:35:17
was a joke because of the force he was taken and kept in the00:35:19
basement near I00:35:21
didn’t ask for a year Are you ready to00:35:24
treat your teacher in a Christian way? They tortured him. He00:35:27
described these tortures in detail, in detail, in00:35:29
particular, he didn’t say to treat them00:35:32
Christianly means tearing them with your teeth.00:35:43
I can understand this person, but with people00:35:47
who are poisoned, I have a00:35:49
rather00:35:51
parental relationship. Merciful because00:35:54
thanks to her, we00:35:56
are talking to you right now, a Ukrainian00:35:59
officer I know, but he once wrote00:36:03
that he likes the spontaneous and he himself00:36:07
had some connection with me to the special services,00:36:09
he said,00:36:11
what if the soap had been left00:36:20
well Dmitrievich last week was the00:36:23
hundredth anniversary of the birth of Kurt stink of the year,00:36:25
we know that he just participated in the00:36:27
war, he wrote about the war, how do00:36:30
you think his books are now relevant00:36:32
for you to especially recommend00:36:36
my favorite book of00:36:39
champions is better than his book00:36:44
number five brilliant book And I00:36:48
talked for a long time00:36:49
and just his00:36:52
famous voice such things were, in general,00:36:56
if you like, my life motto And I00:36:59
would like it to be on my grave, but00:37:02
maybe I wouldn’t want it literally on00:37:04
me arranged such a monument he00:37:07
wanted00:37:10
he tried cunning man00:37:21
Dmitry Lvovich there is also an appeal from00:37:23
our viewer he writes a comment00:37:26
Dmitry00:37:28
Lvovich you have wonderful poems How do you00:37:30
cope with the state of despair of anger00:37:32
and bitterness about everything that is happening00:37:34
How to preserve yourself in such a difficult00:37:37
time00:37:38
I will sign the poems I have a different one00:37:40
there is no way of preservation00:37:55
and there is always a person in the hall who00:38:00
coughs00:38:03
to be ashamed00:38:08
in the middle of a poem there is a muffled cough00:38:12
There is nothing you can do about it And now I understand00:38:16
In my opinion we have a connection00:38:38
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and we think opposite each other00:38:47
we partake of each other’s lived lives and the00:38:51
difficult lived life so cough00:38:54
Let's express ourselves, this is generally00:38:56
normal for me, the only way00:38:59
to deal with life00:39:01
is00:39:03
And if you like, poetry I remember the00:39:07
wonderful words of Shenderovich literature,00:39:09
our national sport, our only00:39:12
opportunity to give back to the world, our boxing00:39:16
Dmitrievich And why poetry, I’ll just00:39:21
tell you I’ll tell you with complete00:39:24
frankness I I’m writing a novel this is not for00:39:26
anyone The secret is almost finished it’s00:39:28
called intimacy that is the team there but00:39:34
it will work out requires thoroughness00:39:36
stability takes time00:39:39
to write a novel you need to look at the00:39:42
problem from some distance now the00:39:44
founder no don’t you think the world00:39:46
is in motion Now 22 23 2400:39:49
years, this point of handlessness is 24 years,00:39:52
remember my word, the world will be in a completely00:39:56
different negative relationship. And by the way, I00:40:00
absolutely do not exclude a situation in00:40:03
which the Free Russia of the future will00:40:06
give political asylum to00:40:08
refugees from Trumpian America00:40:11
because Trump, in the event of his Victory,00:40:13
will no longer be the same Trump we know they are00:40:15
already quite good, they are Pennywise, so00:40:21
during some rapid events,00:40:25
you know, long projects like shooting00:40:28
blockbusters or writing popeys are00:40:30
impossible now all people write poetry and00:40:33
trying to get out of them from the world, the evil that00:40:36
has become so much The only thing we00:40:38
can do is harmonize the chaos,00:40:40
God willing health to everyone who does this00:40:43
I think it’s a great ending, friends, write00:40:45
poetry, watch it Honestly with Dmitry00:40:48
Bykov Dmitry Bykov writer, poet,00:40:51
writer was in touch with us today, I’ll00:40:53
read out a few paid not questions but00:40:56
comments Thank you very much, friends, for00:40:58
writing, I see Niko, our regular00:41:00
viewer has become more active wrote00:41:02
a few Please write what00:41:05
you have We're Worried I wrote in the chat00:41:07
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delayed due to the lecture by the way00:41:11
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