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hello dear friends viewers of me00:00:16
my name is Irina Fatyanova, I'm the presenter00:00:18
Sunday broadcasts on Navalny live and on00:00:21
there wasn't much airing last week00:00:23
we have something to discuss today00:00:24
I will do push-ups with the guest experts00:00:28
talk about the latest news in00:00:29
primarily related to the war in00:00:31
Ukraine and besides, of course we00:00:33
we will talk about other important events00:00:35
but still ninety-fifth day00:00:37
war this means that this is the main event00:00:40
all over the world and of course we are about00:00:44
the most important thing that happened today00:00:46
this week and what might happen in00:00:49
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the necessary links are in the description00:01:19
every broadcast and starting from what I say00:01:21
not only about what day of the war it is now00:01:23
but also about how many days alexey00:01:26
navalny main opposition politician00:01:27
Putin's main main competitor00:01:31
the counterbalance to Putin is in prison00:01:33
today is the 496th day since00:01:37
Alexey was absolutely illegally sent to00:01:40
prison and this week happened00:01:43
appeal in two fraud cases00:01:45
and contempt of court and00:01:48
the appeal court upheld the decision00:01:51
this is of course no surprise to anyone00:01:53
It’s clear that Alexey Navalny is still00:01:55
Putin will have power00:01:57
lattice and00:01:59
Putin does not know how to deal with00:02:02
with his enemies he either tries to00:02:04
poison, but even this was not successful for him00:02:07
it turns out to be done or kills at the walls00:02:10
Kremlin and00:02:13
actually Alexey Navalny is threatened00:02:16
9 years in a maximum security colony where is he00:02:19
will be transported let's go with you00:02:22
Let's watch a short video with commentary00:02:24
Alexey's lawyers00:02:37
and then we will appeal00:02:39
about order and00:02:42
And00:02:44
How do we understand stability for a boy?00:02:47
chase00:02:49
How long will you go to a colony by blood?00:02:53
on00:02:59
Alexei00:03:08
here in any case if we know where00:03:11
he is always the first to00:03:13
slept and not two moons00:03:15
We00:03:17
it will take him a long time to admit I’m already getting by and00:03:19
so on although they should have00:03:23
from does not interfere with installation00:03:25
But of course there is a circle and is it always00:03:28
everything says that there is so this00:03:30
life00:03:31
therefore, as often as possible 2 pages00:03:36
eat and be loved calmly in order to00:03:37
they will eat what00:03:39
everything is fine00:03:42
steam pressure00:03:45
flash drives in general forecasting00:03:48
as you can see we have a lot of solutions00:03:50
European court torsions of his fireplace 3 900:03:53
rules of the Committee of Ministers to require00:03:55
liberation00:03:56
they gave him everything00:03:59
but it happens at home00:04:01
but my name is honorable, but it’s the other way around00:04:03
a sentence that is insipid to European00:04:06
court00:04:07
unfair I'm being used from here00:04:09
get out and season for what we see00:04:12
now we decided Lefortovo here00:04:15
enough fontane I still sat down00:04:18
and deadline00:04:19
that was00:04:21
he also has the remaining term in their00:04:26
networks00:04:28
let's forget00:04:30
1 accounting when they killed that at least now00:04:33
conclusions minutes and homework00:04:35
you found among the corner00:04:38
there will also be00:04:40
Shubin00:04:43
ruble00:04:45
they are now combined into one00:04:46
production is one single thing00:04:49
which next season the committee is excellent00:04:52
trick00:04:54
[music]00:04:56
let me know if I should00:05:02
many times, but it's about 3 times00:05:05
Well, you see what they send to00:05:08
a maximum security colony first as00:05:11
was initially no one understood where00:05:13
Alexei Navalny is here00:05:15
They didn’t give me information, they’re not close to me00:05:17
Of course, a lawyer can do this00:05:19
repeat for Putin for all of him00:05:21
environment is definitely important for Alexey00:05:23
Navalny didn't have a voice, that voice00:05:26
he is this is each of us who is his post00:05:28
and to whom he conveys his lawyer yes00:05:32
on paper he writes thoughts about the fact that00:05:36
what's happening in the world right now is this00:05:38
the opportunity to give him a voice therefore00:05:41
spread your posts as much as possible00:05:43
news information is very, very important00:05:47
In addition, here is one example of what00:05:50
can be distributed recently00:05:52
time magazine compiled a list of the 100 most00:05:54
influential people of 2022 among people00:05:58
who were on this list are00:06:00
Vladimir Zelensky is Vladimir Putin and00:06:02
Joe Biden wrote Alexei Navalny00:06:04
text on this topic00:06:07
alexey navalny wrote about vladimir00:06:09
Putin and in his text he writes that00:06:13
Putin's mission is to teach everyone lessons00:06:17
and in 2022 he showed how the way00:06:21
starting with small falsifications00:06:23
in the elections we are many, I think spectators00:06:26
channel remember how it happened and how00:06:28
it has become an absolute routine and00:06:31
natural situation in Russia and people00:06:33
stopped seeing any point in going to school00:06:36
elections because it doesn't matter00:06:38
falsifies and no matter how you took it before00:06:40
popped it is important how they actually calculated it and00:06:42
Alexey Navalny says what it is00:06:44
ultimately leading to a dictatorship00:06:47
dictatorship in turn leads to war and00:06:50
at the end of his text he says00:06:54
the following is the answer to the main one00:06:56
the question is how to stop the evil one00:06:59
crazy with an army nuclear bomb and00:07:01
Membership of the UN Security Council awaits us all00:07:04
find it yourself and I think this is the question00:07:07
of course which not only citizens00:07:09
Russia and and00:07:12
it is relevant now it is certainly relevant00:07:14
for the entire civilized world and00:07:18
certainly I think that many of us00:07:21
hopes that those who are now00:07:23
who is involved in a war crime00:07:26
gives criminal orders they will not leave00:07:29
dry from water00:07:30
It’s clear that few people believe in anything, but00:07:34
no less, there are already precedents when00:07:36
people who committed crimes in00:07:39
there were war crimes in Ukraine00:07:41
condemned, we'll talk about it today and00:07:43
today we are launching a question during00:07:45
of the entire broadcast you can actually write00:07:49
comments and most importantly vote in00:07:51
poll whether all those who00:07:54
commits a crime in Ukraine00:07:58
the survey remains in our in our chat00:08:02
so vote at the end let's sum it up00:08:05
Well, in the meantime, we move on to the topic00:08:08
the most important which is every Sunday00:08:11
we discuss a lot on our channel00:08:13
we are releasing a video on this topic00:08:15
Today is the ninety-fifth day of the war00:08:18
it's been going on for more than three months00:08:20
bloody war in which people die00:08:23
a huge number of Ukrainians are peaceful00:08:26
Ukrainians, I'm not talking about the soldiers who00:08:28
Ukrainian soldiers they understand that they00:08:30
they are essentially doing the Ukrainian army00:08:33
now it is an army of defense against the invader00:08:35
but what are the soldiers who arrived doing?00:08:38
From Russia00:08:39
Why are they there? Why do I need them?00:08:42
killing civilians is absolutely00:08:44
unclear00:08:46
to a huge number of people and I think that00:08:49
when everyone in Russia will not understand00:08:52
when everyone realizes that there is no such thing00:08:54
reasons other than ambition through your thirst00:08:57
the power of Vladimir Putin then there will be00:09:01
a chance to stop this war and how to00:09:04
as soon as possible00:09:05
to realize and understand this and for this00:09:07
of course read independent media and00:09:10
read the international press critically00:09:12
think they watch Russian00:09:15
propaganda00:09:16
before we discuss with you00:09:18
past news we will show a little00:09:21
interview video00:09:23
Olga's hard bread for honored veterans00:09:27
wow, despite the age of the UAZ00:09:31
is in good health in her mind00:09:35
there is a category in athletics00:09:37
Voroshilov marksman badge and she00:09:41
read what else might be useful for your homeland00:09:43
once Vladimir Putin even Alexander00:09:45
Lukashenko and thanked for the victory here00:09:48
this whole ostentatious our our I mean00:09:52
I'm not an official, that's bureaucratic00:09:55
ska and00:09:56
remembrance of veterans and some00:09:59
shown actions once a year00:10:01
were invited to military parades and00:10:04
today she is her00:10:07
Veteran acquaintances are discussing the war again00:10:11
And00:10:12
call on Russia and stop it00:10:15
Let's watch the video: Kyiv has already been bombed by bombs00:10:18
from Kharkov00:10:21
Mariupol and now I’m thinking, is he really not00:10:25
I remember, won’t I remember, I’m calling00:10:28
military registration and enlistment office a00:10:30
before that come to me00:10:32
come so I can contact the Russians00:10:35
woman I turned I said women00:10:42
become a wall with your chest and protect yours00:10:45
children protect your husbands and sons00:10:50
brothers have a groom in a sexy way, protect them and00:10:55
when I hear what a woman says00:10:59
for your son, find me some Khokhlushki00:11:03
everyone and00:11:05
the other one is shaved, you're still alive and00:11:09
we thought you weren't here, we're funeral00:11:12
they wanted to raise it so I'll think about it00:11:15
zombified no appeals to them00:11:18
they will probably help, I think so, so I00:11:22
I called the military registration and enlistment office and said you00:11:24
record this woman to the front00:11:27
Yarina sign me up for the game I am Voroshilovsky00:11:32
shooter00:11:33
and there are the lads sitting there, the house decoction she was and00:11:35
40 for a fat woman with the Kulikovo battle00:11:40
asks ask how old are you I'm in00:11:44
December there will be 99 reprimand I'll go out like this00:11:49
why do you need a front and an automatic rifle? we need yours00:11:52
the word and when Putin attacked I speak00:11:57
then 7th gymnasium, well, I do three a day00:12:02
three performances00:12:05
they say how do you feel about Putin00:12:08
or how can you treat a person00:12:09
to the patient who I say is killing ours00:12:13
I wanted to treat our guys as best I could00:12:17
say God is the judge of the fish, the kingdom is to him00:12:21
heavenly00:12:22
did you meet them before, tell me how00:12:25
you have happy stomach signs from him00:12:28
us you know that I'm here for him00:12:31
here Medvedev sat modestly, he was then00:12:35
the president and this one somehow wanted a vision00:12:39
to be the first and such eyes like that00:12:42
close as a wolf wolf as close as a jackal00:12:44
you understand00:12:45
and so00:12:47
nasty guy here00:12:49
first impression of a person00:12:52
1 good is he bad is he good is he evil and here00:12:58
here's some00:12:59
can't say that00:13:02
the bad thing is that he is a schizophrenic alive and stupid00:13:07
on the other hand, I’m with this person00:13:11
I would never be friends with these here00:13:14
I had that impression when I00:13:16
I met and kissed my hand along the paths of our garden00:13:20
ore yes-a-a-a-a-and I'm still learning and this00:13:24
time for the president everyone kissed00:13:27
president and00:13:29
everyone and Lukashenko except Nazarbayev00:13:33
I haven’t gotten there yet, the bay effect is all00:13:37
our 5 and only for those who haven’t kissed00:13:40
Yushchenko but the TV was given to me by Yushchenko00:13:47
I didn't want to kiss him then Ben00:13:50
David the hero00:13:54
you see, I don’t like that I’m like this00:13:59
I think I said I need to take a little00:14:03
be diplomats and I00:14:06
directly and since you're talking about00:14:09
Bandera, how do you feel about this?00:14:12
historical in the language that I relate to00:14:17
history with great respect00:14:20
there was no need to redo history Bandera00:14:23
was00:14:25
bad did bad things but he was00:14:29
this is our story but who is he to you00:14:33
Nazi collaborator and we are the castle and that he00:14:35
stuck don't you know that I'm very careful00:14:38
I appreciate him, he is very careful for me00:14:43
no one but he was00:14:47
for the cunning one I am00:14:49
I'll try to avoid answering but I'll tell you00:14:53
I didn't tell this to anyone00:14:57
I was asked how I look at this00:15:00
UPA army and I say00:15:05
it can't be called an army because it's an army00:15:09
which liberated some area but00:15:12
this is our story00:15:14
our history and we must not forget it00:15:18
Today they often compare this war00:15:22
from World War II00:15:23
are you comparing legos? is there any for me?00:15:25
I'm comparing00:15:27
mastered was completely different we were attacked by00:15:33
watering fascists00:15:35
this is what I'm doing, I had to destroy it00:15:38
and our soldier reached Berlin00:15:42
what about fascism in Europe and everywhere then?00:15:48
we fought against fascism00:15:51
we knew that these were our enemies00:15:55
neighbors ate together from the same pot00:16:00
together we reached Berlin who managed00:16:03
signed for 6 who didn't make it00:16:07
Brandenburg Gate and we knew that00:16:10
this is a victory, we thought we were veterans00:16:13
the last one on the planet that will no longer exist00:16:16
and now new veterans have appeared again00:16:20
this war is only similar in that00:16:25
the war was destroyed in this war00:16:30
but this war is not only army against army00:16:34
it still destroys the people of the city00:16:38
Hitler didn’t demolish the land of Mariupol, you00:16:42
talk about we knew what we were struggling with00:16:44
fascism 1 but from Russian rhetoric00:16:48
governments they are also now fighting with00:16:50
Nazism of Ukraine in words but they themselves came00:16:55
they kill their brother so not only that00:16:59
you're killing him, it hurts, so are we00:17:02
destroy our cities our people00:17:05
our children00:17:07
This is the attitude of the fascists, they are no worse00:17:11
fascists fascists forgot our enemies nose00:17:14
various death cases00:17:16
ours everyone else had three upbringings00:17:20
everything is different for us00:17:23
unfortunately unfortunately Vladimir00:17:26
Putin00:17:27
unfortunately he doesn’t want to00:17:30
hear veterans in which generally00:17:32
many generations have promised peaceful skies above00:17:35
I think this is the main promise00:17:36
to which everything was always given to veterans00:17:39
I remember when we met at school00:17:41
veterans and it was broadcast by teachers00:17:43
this was broadcast by school principals this is what00:17:46
what we always see on TV and00:17:48
what a crazy woman she is00:17:49
hypocrisy when people who have passed00:17:52
war and fought against Nazism and so on00:17:56
in all honesty they are trying to say that00:17:58
go against the brotherly people00:18:01
fight fascism fight Nazism00:18:03
everyone understands this perfectly well, people who00:18:06
they see the real picture and there it is00:18:09
I feel like more and more people understand00:18:11
what's going on, it's clear that I'm in Russia00:18:15
I haven’t been to Russia for a long time, it’s difficult for me00:18:17
imagine what it feels like when00:18:19
you walk around the city and you realize that00:18:22
this war you know I can't sleep00:18:24
operation you know that thousands are dying00:18:26
civilians and you see these posters with00:18:29
letter z in the color of the St. George ribbon00:18:31
who meet you everywhere00:18:34
billboards on the street on cars underground00:18:37
transport and so on and this is huge00:18:40
huge hypocrisy no propaganda well00:18:43
ok it might work for now but00:18:46
but it won't work for long because00:18:49
sooner or later everything becomes secret00:18:52
explicit00:18:53
we continue to talk about what00:18:55
is happening now in Ukraine and00:18:58
General Staff estimates in Russian issue00:19:01
the army lost more than 30 thousand people00:19:04
first of all there are invasions, of course there are00:19:09
different estimates on the number of losses from00:19:12
the Russian army has estimates there00:19:14
he is the General Staff of the Wesu and so on, of course they00:19:17
they differ in any case, it’s always00:19:19
inaccurate numbers but very difficult to say00:19:22
about exact numbers when official00:19:24
statistics from the Russian side00:19:27
does not exist in principle and officials do not00:19:29
consider it necessary when the country is leading00:19:31
talk about war with your neighbor at all00:19:34
people who live in this country and00:19:36
has every right to know this information00:19:38
how many victims are we talking about at the moment?00:19:43
about military personnel who died in the war00:19:46
losses of the Ukrainian army you are not00:19:48
reveals more than six and a half00:19:51
million people00:19:53
Ukrainians left Ukraine in large numbers00:19:56
some of them went to Poland about this00:19:59
reported to the Supreme Commander's office00:20:00
UN Commissioner for Refugees is huge00:20:04
number of people many came to00:20:07
Poland and you bet we went to some00:20:09
neighboring European countries00:20:11
special conditions00:20:13
from Europe for Ukrainians who00:20:16
including those who were00:20:19
forcibly removed to the Russian Federation00:20:21
people go further to Europe if they00:20:25
trying to leave the losses of the Russian army00:20:28
in three months the invasion of Ukraine00:20:30
turned out to be comparable to those losses00:20:34
which the USSR had for 9 years00:20:38
war in Afghanistan this information00:20:41
British intelligence there believe that00:20:45
reasons that the main reasons that00:20:49
such huge losses on the part00:20:50
Russian army this is low quality00:20:54
tactical tactical training00:20:56
absence of separate divisions00:20:58
flexibility of command that is again and00:21:01
the same mistakes are repeated again00:21:03
which have already been committed and00:21:06
insufficient air support but we00:21:09
We have already discussed more than once on our broadcasts that00:21:12
one of the main reasons is this00:21:15
corruption that cannot be avoided00:21:17
exist in the army if it exists00:21:19
everywhere in all absolutely social00:21:22
institutes in Russia this is already like this00:21:26
if they say there is some kind of national00:21:27
the idea seems so to me from Putin00:21:30
a great national idea has appeared00:21:32
this corruption but besides this of course00:21:36
the same selection is always social elevators in00:21:40
Russia, we also know that the children of officials00:21:41
occupies the main positions become00:21:44
ministers becomes governor and who00:21:46
whatever00:21:47
generally not professional00:21:50
qualities are used to select people and00:21:52
according to official data00:21:55
irretrievable losses of the Soviet Union for00:21:57
during the war in Afghanistan were00:21:59
15000 31 people that is, you understand00:22:02
this is almost twice as much as a percentage00:22:04
the figure that the General Staff calls in the amount and00:22:07
Well, on the one hand we are already talking00:22:10
three months is really huge00:22:12
the amount of time on the other hand is00:22:16
It's only three months and what a loss00:22:19
behind nine years of war00:22:21
New York Times in early May proper00:22:25
reports that in early May, when trying00:22:27
crossing the Seversky Donets river00:22:30
About 400 Russian soldiers were killed00:22:33
they say that this is one of the main00:22:34
defeats throughout this war for everything00:22:38
you can see her three months on the screen00:22:41
footage from the crossing00:22:45
here are actually different different tanks according to00:22:49
according to Wesu representatives00:22:52
Russian troops tried unsuccessfully00:22:55
cross the river to encircle00:22:58
Ukrainian forces in the Severodonetsk area00:23:02
but like I already said this alone00:23:05
probably one of the main ones00:23:07
the main major defeats of the Russian00:23:09
sides in battle since the beginning of the war00:23:12
New York Times correspondent00:23:15
visited the battle site00:23:17
the Ukrainian military told him during this00:23:20
visit showed a broken Russian00:23:22
equipment as well as a section of forest where00:23:25
pieces of Russian00:23:27
uniforms and the smell, well, you can smell it00:23:30
decaying bodies00:23:33
great job another topic big00:23:36
the work was done by the publication of the project they00:23:39
named names00:23:40
166 Russian soldiers who gave00:23:43
orders during the invasion of Ukraine are00:23:47
great material and I recommend it to you00:23:48
read there is an interactive center00:23:51
map then you can see which ones00:23:54
the units themselves participate with00:23:57
throughout the country00:23:59
in the war in Ukraine in addition see00:24:02
names of commanders and so on that is00:24:04
voluminous work I think it will be well00:24:06
I want it to expand00:24:08
this is very important again for history00:24:11
fix00:24:12
the publication notes that they are involved in the war00:24:15
military and 180 subsection which00:24:19
based in 53 regions while00:24:23
real combat experience please note00:24:25
Only 39 people out of 166 have it, that is00:24:30
that's it, here we go back to the reasons00:24:32
Why does he suffer such huge losses?00:24:34
the Russian army is just that00:24:36
lack of experience00:24:39
In addition, it is known that the war in Ukraine00:24:42
all units of the armed forces are participating00:24:44
forces that are capable of going on the offensive00:24:46
in particular, even the 15th was sent to war00:24:51
Alexandria Motorized Rifle Brigade00:24:53
from the Samara region this is the only one in00:24:57
Russia's peacekeeping means to beat00:24:59
connection that can be routed for00:25:02
resolution of international conflicts under00:25:04
under the auspices of the UN, well, let me sum it up again00:25:07
what is really true in the first place00:25:09
just look at this map00:25:11
move around it is easy to find in00:25:15
knowledge of the project this material and00:25:19
meanwhile his own just00:25:21
they said that, in principle, those who have experience00:25:24
behind him who are the teams in Ukraine now00:25:27
during the war, at such moments I think, well00:25:29
it's good that it's so good that there are not 166 people00:25:33
all with extensive professional and00:25:35
so on because my country leads00:25:40
wages war invaded is00:25:43
aggressor to carry out genocide on00:25:45
territory of another country but if00:25:47
this didn't happen if we were attacked00:25:49
Is this such preparation?00:25:52
it's normal how much money is poured into00:25:54
army where the result is before what is happening but00:25:57
in the current conditions it seems as if it00:25:59
it will even be a plus because it00:26:02
armies incapable of bearing crushing00:26:04
strikes and the Ukrainian army Ukrainian00:26:08
soldiers and ordinary people who protect00:26:11
they rallied their homeland00:26:13
they really understand why they are00:26:15
they fight why they take up arms00:26:19
State Duma and Federation Council in one day00:26:22
passed a law abolishing the age00:26:24
limit for military contractors we00:26:26
we know that of course not some00:26:28
democratic parliament when everything00:26:31
the law everyone agrees there is no00:26:33
everyone supports opposing opinions00:26:36
what was lowered from above I don’t know how00:26:38
people generally live in this state00:26:41
when they're just reptiles00:26:44
in fact they have no will at all00:26:46
to initiate something to disagree00:26:50
and to this, of course, well, this00:26:52
compromise for years, decades00:26:54
led to parliament simply being manual00:26:58
day passes laws earlier its first00:27:01
a serviceman could enter into a contract00:27:03
only up to 40 years old can now do this00:27:06
make all Russians foreigners00:27:09
I'm of working age to be honest00:27:11
but apparently he doesn’t really want the path00:27:14
martial law introduce general00:27:16
mobilization and so on because00:27:18
it’s clear where this will lead, but I00:27:22
I don’t really understand, well, sort of00:27:24
the logic of these actions, well, that is, clearly this00:27:27
will not strengthen the composition of the Russian army00:27:31
Russian means Russian soldier and00:27:34
it is very important00:27:36
sentenced to life imprisonment for00:27:38
war crimes00:27:40
in Ukraine00:27:44
that means his last name is shishi marine00:27:47
Alexandra Alexander O00:27:50
no I'm very sorry his name is no yes00:27:55
everything is correct shishi marine is the first00:27:58
sentence for violation of customs00:28:01
war in Ukraine shishi marine admitted his00:28:04
guilty of killing a civilian00:28:06
Alexander Shelepov he killed a civilian00:28:09
Of course, he is not the only resident00:28:11
it's done I think it's true00:28:13
important precedent I bring you back to00:28:15
survey00:28:16
which we're on air today00:28:19
fixed the question about whether there will be others00:28:22
war crimes people who00:28:24
committed whether they will be punished00:28:27
it means a little endurance, yes I am from the fact that00:28:30
He said00:28:31
Ensign Makeev it turns out that there is more00:28:35
one criminal ordered to shoot me00:28:37
Then another military serviceman refused00:28:41
threatened me in a general tone00:28:44
shoot, arguing that he00:28:47
we will be handed over, I fired a short burst00:28:51
I didn't want to kill him, I shot him00:28:54
so that they leave me alone, I think that when00:28:57
you don't want to kill a person then you00:29:00
you don't do this and don't00:29:02
you're afraid that someone will be told what00:29:05
you did not carry out a criminal order00:29:07
absolutely normal and you can deal with it later00:29:09
live and look people in the eyes00:29:12
many future children here don’t know at all00:29:14
does this person have any children?00:29:16
I understand as a person who is00:29:19
something like a parent can do00:29:21
commit a crime in cold blood00:29:23
nevertheless00:29:27
such an order to be given by the security service00:29:30
Ukraine publishes another interception00:29:33
this is the next next actually00:29:35
the news will be published this is still very very00:29:39
says a lot about what kind of people they are00:29:42
you arrived there in the afternoon without any00:29:45
meanings and people don’t understand the goals without knowing00:29:48
without fighting for something, I'm sure that these00:29:50
people who don't want to shoot civilians00:29:53
residents they are not dialogical00:29:55
reasons yes those who force maybe00:29:58
and yet how they go on00:30:00
crimes and how cruel they are and why00:30:03
so the question seems to lie they know00:30:05
the happiest and most people in the world are people00:30:08
who commit crimes right there00:30:10
here is the actual telephone interception00:30:13
our guests from Ukraine often talk00:30:15
they say interceptions and what they hear there00:30:18
this is a conversation between a Russian military wife00:30:21
he tells his wife about the torture00:30:25
rape, killing of civilians in00:30:27
Kharkov region00:30:29
according to him, military personnel from another00:30:31
units first tear off00:30:33
Ukrainian language00:30:36
they raped her and then killed her00:30:39
war crimes he says it is00:30:43
common practice but that's what it is00:30:47
one time I would be shocked but what is it00:30:49
normal practice for the third month00:30:51
wars00:30:54
we clean out basements you know how not to00:30:57
asking who is there and throwing grenades00:30:59
it's terrible but I'm using obscene language here00:31:02
the obscene word replaced let's00:31:04
Let's watch a short video of the interception00:31:20
I'm telling this one briefly00:31:24
three thugs each image00:31:31
he is also a droplet00:31:35
boboyboy caught00:31:39
ransom for people then goes for rubles00:31:44
more00:31:45
Not00:31:50
save it if you want, I can just take a knife00:31:53
and the trampoline cut off his view and transmitting00:31:56
maybe it doesn't look like jelly in Russia00:32:01
will00:32:05
I think that comments are unnecessary here00:32:08
because she and I, for example, don’t listen00:32:10
intercepting in principle after00:32:12
everything became obvious00:32:14
It's just very painful to listen to and00:32:17
disgusting and disgusting and you want it right away00:32:21
wash off all this and it’s like that00:32:24
ordinary speech milks husband and wife00:32:26
talking to each other00:32:29
Russian military photographed on00:32:32
polaroid in the apartment of a resident of Irpen00:32:35
while she didn't live there she found00:32:38
photograph00:32:40
May 14 under the carpet and not00:32:44
identified a military serviceman means00:32:47
Minister of Digital Information of Ukraine00:32:49
Mikhail Fedorov he said that this00:32:52
the man's name is Nikita Tretyakov and he is 2600:32:54
years old he comes from Rostov-on-Don but then00:32:58
publication of important stories it carried out its00:33:00
investigation and think it’s wrong00:33:03
man called eastar digital00:33:06
transformation information, I'm sorry00:33:09
Ukraine and00:33:10
they think what it means in the photo is not00:33:15
Nikita Tretyakov and Pavel and00:33:19
land of from the Murmansk region and they00:33:23
they believe that this saw ant serves in00:33:26
100th Fourth Guards00:33:28
air assault regiment in this regiment's garden00:33:31
simpler as the Ukrainian authorities claimed00:33:33
was engaged in cleaning up the butch Irpen and gas00:33:37
Is Tommy really but apparently00:33:40
if both the one and the other soldier are fighting in our country00:33:43
Ukraine, I don’t know which of them are there00:33:45
committed war crimes who no but00:33:47
basically they invaded another country00:33:50
So00:33:51
Well, it will probably become clear a little later00:33:55
what kind of person is this and again I hope00:33:57
will be punished just like that00:34:00
we haven't heard any more and I'm glad that in00:34:02
occupied cities absolutely00:34:04
soldiers can easily come and occupy00:34:06
someone else's home00:34:07
if people left, all sorts of stories00:34:11
they're all terrible, of course00:34:13
just feel at home00:34:15
for some reason they are not greeted with bread and salt00:34:17
Ukrainian residents who wanted it so much00:34:19
freedom and for some reason all this becomes00:34:22
such precedents when when00:34:26
actually00:34:28
Russian military are creating chaos in00:34:31
territory of Ukraine you and I are now in00:34:35
guests guest we will discuss some00:34:37
the news I was talking about just now00:34:39
with him is political scientist Dmitry Oreshkin00:34:41
Hello Dmitry00:34:45
hello good afternoon good afternoon I'm00:34:47
I'm glad of course I don't want to make predictions but00:34:50
in general, in general, the war here I am today00:34:52
said 95 days have already lasted and many00:34:56
they say that it will be my protracted00:34:58
the question is what do you think it can00:35:00
influence this war to be protracted00:35:02
there wasn't and what could or at all00:35:04
stop00:35:06
first of all, I think that nothing can00:35:10
make it short term because00:35:14
whichever side intercepts00:35:16
initiative00:35:17
she won't be able to move fast like that00:35:22
What00:35:23
protracted war00:35:25
will trench warfare go into anaphase?00:35:28
who you during the First World War00:35:31
it's hard to say but what00:35:34
military operations have slowed down significantly00:35:37
and is unlikely to accelerate in the near future00:35:40
seems pretty obvious to me00:35:42
can stop the war in this situation00:35:46
only material resources from00:35:49
one of the parties00:35:50
on them both sides lose a lot and00:35:55
they lose resources very quickly, but Russia00:36:00
many resources it is a big country with00:36:02
large population and00:36:05
big army00:36:06
Ukraine is actively fueled00:36:09
new modern weapons with00:36:13
west so I think it will be00:36:15
quite viscous isn't it disgusting00:36:19
bleeding wound in the center of Europe is still00:36:22
a few months but00:36:25
this is the last week in Donbass how are you00:36:28
do you think what significance the events had?00:36:31
which happened00:36:34
they are just00:36:36
registers from my point of view here00:36:38
this new character and wars, that is, already00:36:41
It’s clear that there’s no blitzkrieg at all00:36:44
No, it’s already clear that there is no Dina Cixi00:36:48
cation will not take place because00:36:51
an attack on Kyiv is hardly possible00:36:55
accordingly change of government 1100:36:59
fiction in Putin’s mouth meant00:37:02
elimination from the Kyiv leadership of those00:37:06
people he called Nazis00:37:08
for some reason he expressed himself that way towards00:37:11
government00:37:12
Mr. Zelensky so this00:37:15
projection cannot be changed00:37:17
in its place some pragmatic00:37:19
puppets are also impossible, therefore the topic00:37:23
where are the Nazis leaves, I'll take off 1 it's cold00:37:25
forgotten and00:37:27
localized themselves replaced by another00:37:30
challenge the same thing with militarization and then00:37:33
same with00:37:36
NATO retreat on the border in '9700:37:40
which so00:37:41
comrades from00:37:45
Ministry of Foreign Affairs there00:37:46
recommended to collapse to an atom00:37:48
Manatki and get out of the borders of '97, well00:37:52
we naturally observe as always with00:37:54
Putin has the exact opposite process00:37:57
NATO is expanding and Putin is forced to do so00:38:00
assimilation, as for war, this is also00:38:03
Now the goals have changed in general00:38:07
make fiction no negativity00:38:09
explain the idea of militarization in the Kremlin00:38:12
we are also talking about going out to00:38:15
borders00:38:16
Lugansk and Donetsk region to leave00:38:19
the borders of the Lugansk region are real for00:38:22
Severodvinsk should be blamed for this00:38:24
Severodonetsk of course00:38:27
is it possible00:38:29
but it will be very pretentious00:38:32
propaganda victory within the framework of that00:38:34
media space that was built00:38:37
in Moscow but00:38:40
will not be the fulfillment of even that very00:38:44
adjusted00:38:46
tactical00:38:47
upper plan of the tactical plan which00:38:50
but a couple of months ago we already started00:38:53
imagine because another 40 percent00:38:56
Donetsk region remain under control00:38:59
Ukrainian armed forces and unlikely with00:39:02
at this rate it will be possible to take them under00:39:06
control00:39:08
so we are now and all the media are very00:39:14
concentrated around Severodonetsk00:39:17
this is actually a tactical problem00:39:20
because even if00:39:22
Let's say Ukraine won't be able to hold senor00:39:25
Donetsk will retreat is a very real situation00:39:29
in the process of hostilities, what's next and00:39:33
Russian troops advance to the border00:39:37
Lugansk region natural percent00:39:39
Lugansk region will be sent to the security forces00:39:41
controller what's next next00:39:43
moving towards Kyiv will be very00:39:47
it's hard because everything will happen00:39:52
more effective weapon slowly she00:39:54
will come from the west00:39:59
resources of the ways of sk russia are also not00:40:02
limitless or so this is it00:40:05
inevitable and pride the transformation of war00:40:10
sluggish, so very exhausting00:40:13
very tiring and phase but but on00:40:16
is actually disastrous for Putin because00:40:18
what did you expect to present as yours?00:40:20
population in a small victorious war00:40:22
and he expected that00:40:25
the West will be afraid to put up with this but00:40:27
for this it was necessary to win quickly00:40:29
convincing and preferably homeless as00:40:32
he organized his own time for business00:40:34
screenshots of the chairs and it didn’t work out, but00:40:37
when he entered a new quality of protracted00:40:40
war here it is no longer clear who is greater00:40:42
actually I lose more00:40:44
Russia will lose because to Ukraine00:40:47
is waging a defensive war to find00:40:49
country has strength in world public opinion00:40:52
developed countries help her with both money and00:40:56
weapons and consultations or00:40:59
Putin leads with intelligence and so on00:41:02
war almost alone and00:41:04
this is a protracted character00:41:07
with every passing month it can be00:41:10
even a week will blur the same one00:41:15
enthusiastic support base that he00:41:19
peaked in April it seems in00:41:22
Hotel le male was Maxim in March00:41:25
maximum surge of support now00:41:27
goes down a little, not quickly, but still00:41:29
looks like it's slipping00:41:31
and the further it goes, the worse it seems to me00:41:35
for Russia because they will work with00:41:36
coffee stocks won't really be a problem because00:41:40
that the subcutaneous fat will resolve00:41:45
there will be no jobs, no money00:41:47
will appear, will not appear, prices will rise and00:41:50
this is the war that was intended as00:41:54
little victorious00:41:55
turns into very destructive00:41:58
similar to the situation I was experiencing00:42:00
Russia in 1914 the first few00:42:03
months00:42:04
the population was delighted there were massive00:42:07
demonstrating the benefit of the Tsar-Father who00:42:10
decided to protect Bratsk from exploitation00:42:13
Serbian Orthodox people00:42:15
religious processions mass signings00:42:19
congratulatory donation addresses00:42:22
in the form of money and in the form of some kind00:42:25
material benefits for soldiers00:42:28
after a year people quickly got tired and00:42:34
to the same sovereign emperor who00:42:37
admired a few months ago00:42:39
began to present some completely untrue00:42:42
only reasonable and crazy claims00:42:44
also so a protracted war for Putin00:42:47
this is bad but anyway out00:42:50
depending on what happens to00:42:52
north of Donetsk this war will be protracted00:42:56
And00:42:57
we are in the same capacity in a new one00:43:00
as a new propaganda00:43:01
as in a new military capacity in00:43:04
a new ideological quality in general00:43:06
new quality, even let's say global00:43:09
war and because mostly now00:43:11
the war is being waged in the economic sphere and00:43:15
finance in Syria citizens of oil00:43:17
raw materials and other flows and they are on the field00:43:21
battle on the battlefield is a very important event00:43:25
catastrophic event but none00:43:28
vocal victory or defeat surrender00:43:31
Mariupol capture of Mariupol surrender north00:43:34
until not ska victory in Severodonetsk each00:43:37
this country will read as it wants00:43:39
actually essential things in this00:43:43
the war will no longer change and this is bad for00:43:46
my country or kind of Russia00:43:49
this is the color I talked about earlier on the air00:43:53
General Staff statement in issue and they say00:43:56
what are the losses of the Russian army about there00:43:58
30,000 people I have a question first00:44:02
how much do you think this figure is00:44:04
close to the truth in the second place but to the ordinary00:44:06
where can a person lie to this information?00:44:08
if actually with some statistics00:44:10
even more so if they are honest00:44:12
Russian cannot be heard and what are they connected with00:44:16
such big losses in three months, wow00:44:20
you know something that was not said by me a long time ago00:44:22
the first victim of any war is simply00:44:25
Well, of course, propaganda of stories in another00:44:28
parties must present to their people00:44:30
winning result so I don't have00:44:34
reasons to trust00:44:35
Russian propaganda just like00:44:38
I don’t trust the Russians myself00:44:39
election results and we will00:44:42
statistical indicators but I don’t have00:44:46
unambiguous trust in belief in00:44:49
unbiased data that00:44:51
represent the opposite side in00:44:54
In any case, I think this is about00:44:57
thousands of losses00:44:58
be it Ruslan of Libya who believes00:45:02
only fixed mussels on or there00:45:05
on social networks he lost them00:45:07
counts several thousand be it00:45:10
British intelligence officers, whether in such a situation00:45:12
which also measures Russian losses00:45:16
army00:45:17
thousands not tens of thousands but how00:45:20
at least 1000 that is, I think we can00:45:23
So00:45:25
carefully00:45:26
comparing different stories00:45:29
conclude that well, several thousand00:45:32
Do you love your compatriots? Putin burned00:45:35
in this war00:45:37
how many Ukrainians were burned, well, I think that00:45:40
not much less or not much more00:45:43
probably the losses are generally comparable, although00:45:45
defensive war is usually more00:45:48
more economical in relation to manpower than00:45:51
offensive there is considered three to00:45:54
alone, that is, relatively speaking00:45:55
the advancing army is lost three times00:45:57
more than defending Ukrainians00:46:00
obviously they are defending themselves, of course too00:46:03
suffer losses and these lost ones now00:46:05
significant and he talks about losses from above00:46:08
4 thousand civilians00:46:12
tourists whose house was bombed or00:46:15
shot or destroyed in some other way00:46:18
anyway it's monstrous00:46:20
a disaster that deals a huge blow00:46:24
in Ukraine and less significant but very00:46:30
a very painful blow to Russia is felt00:46:33
primarily because Russia, unlike00:46:36
from Ukraine, thanks to Putin, settled in00:46:40
its basic political features now00:46:44
How do I like the state and something more00:46:47
primitive but sometimes they talk about00:46:50
the Eurasian sultanate is sometimes talked about00:46:53
chiefdom when everything is fixed on00:46:57
there is no system to the figure of one leader00:47:00
institutions no separation of powers all00:47:03
lock for 1 person for executive00:47:05
power and he and the legislature00:47:07
military power and ideological00:47:09
authorities the judge also who he pointed to00:47:11
you planted a finger on that one, you understand that one00:47:14
I mean a person who cannot00:47:16
call men with your thoughts00:47:19
his name is Alexey, definitely war, so in00:47:22
under these conditions00:47:25
this system only lasts so long00:47:28
while people or conclude to the majority00:47:31
they believe that the leader00:47:34
having something special00:47:36
properties of luck or God00:47:40
blessings if we are more primitive00:47:43
Let's temporarily roll back in politics00:47:45
called political charisma that's for00:47:48
in order to have political charisma00:47:49
functioned should or in Russian00:47:51
talking about soviet talking cult00:47:53
personalities00:47:54
that's why Putin can't lose00:47:57
he cannot report his losses00:48:01
that's why he can't take the bodies00:48:06
must be a winner and in the eyes of00:48:08
those very people who can conditionally00:48:10
it is not possible to call shady or paths lots00:48:13
it is important for his state00:48:16
respected feared and obeyed he must00:48:20
carry this imperishable charisma00:48:23
Stalin managed to inflict this charisma and00:48:26
that's why many people still think00:48:28
that Stalin is a great gift of persuasiveness00:48:30
educator and so on because he00:48:32
drew the picture that remained in00:48:35
in people's heads, Putin also owes you00:48:38
needs doomed to draw this one00:48:41
a victorious picture and every month00:48:43
war this picture is corroded by rust00:48:47
acid and, accordingly, as with the sovereign00:48:51
Emperor Nikolai Alekseev than00:48:53
roughly the same thing happens00:48:54
Putin starts to help taste alt and not00:48:56
the real one is Putin, are you a weakling, is he or there00:49:02
hawkish axt opposition begins00:49:04
says that Putin is a coward and doesn’t know how to fight00:49:07
if you started 3 you need to act until the end a00:49:10
he can't, he's an agent of the West, he's a traitor00:49:13
he hits the back but usually the whole00:49:15
they already have their vocabulary00:49:18
begin to pour a little from the other00:49:21
side be he begins to lose prestige00:49:24
those people who think rationally and00:49:26
they understand that they came there in vain00:49:30
and the weather you can get victories like00:49:33
how can you not achieve unloading the world has become00:49:36
toxic and00:49:39
seemed like some kind of third-rate country00:49:41
and this too will grow illustration with00:49:44
from the point of view of political science, well, Putin from00:49:47
advantage00:49:49
centric position when you are on yourself00:49:51
closed the sympathies or communists00:49:54
nationalists and I are part liberals and00:49:56
part of the democrats he starts playing00:49:59
exactly the opposite role because he00:50:01
decided that he was walking towards the center00:50:04
social expectations and now I’ll speak English00:50:06
the chair is this center and wherever it goes00:50:09
go the center will go with him this is big00:50:11
delusion00:50:12
he went towards his security forces00:50:15
mafia like this and the KGB and decided that00:50:18
the center of sympathy will move for them along00:50:20
First of all, yes, that’s how it is, but already now00:50:23
this onion begins gradually00:50:26
fall apart and instead of the center00:50:30
consolidation00:50:31
he becomes the object of criticism from everyone00:50:34
the most growing criticism from the conditional00:50:36
the liberal flank is growing and we ourselves00:50:38
critics cannot help but see this00:50:40
sides exterminate the nova nationalist00:50:43
flank and now we see how even00:50:46
country of the communist flank00:50:48
this criticism is growing in the Far East00:50:50
2 desperate locals just performed00:50:53
deputies00:50:54
statements about the war for the time being00:50:57
time everything can be shut up00:50:58
accordingly it will be necessary to strengthen00:51:00
repressions are all quite predictable and00:51:02
understandable but every week this00:51:06
the operation process will continue00:51:09
such an unusual question since we00:51:12
we started talking about we started talking about Vladimir00:51:14
Putin today there was news in00:51:17
British media that the way is dead and that means00:51:22
he was replaced by a double, first of all I00:51:24
I wanted to ask you00:51:26
but where do legs like this even grow?00:51:29
news00:51:30
and secondly, I wanted this question00:51:33
ask if Putin really dies then00:51:38
how long will people be gone in the country?00:51:40
know about this, well, what are the reserves?00:51:43
for something like this00:51:46
Well, first of all, of course, this is a nightingale for you00:51:50
rut it is necessary to say goodbye not to me he is already00:51:53
for three years he says that Vladimir Putin00:51:55
two weeks left will stretch your legs00:51:58
since I'm not a doctor it's hard for me to judge00:52:02
how much00:52:03
Putin lives but an interesting question: what if00:52:07
it is not there if instead they go and00:52:11
talking doll of the heir00:52:14
what is happening in the country until00:52:17
the country believes that this is a living real00:52:20
Putin00:52:22
charismatic victorious etc. all00:52:26
this model of power is normal00:52:29
functions but for this we are with you before00:52:31
find out rolls to about00:52:32
fourteenth century00:52:35
When00:52:36
people perceived the monarch because he00:52:40
nicely pleased with what they wear here or there00:52:45
royal signs on the body as in Pugachev00:52:50
it was a little later, that is, when possible00:52:54
it was serious there to solve problems with00:52:58
man calls hearts impostors00:53:00
they will go roar on behalf of the region or be lazy00:53:03
for this you need to have a very primitive00:53:06
society putin the task is not bad00:53:08
our society copes, accept00:53:10
sights very successfully plugs up the water00:53:13
press and00:53:14
if we were completely stupid people00:53:17
then perhaps it would be possible to keep it but00:53:24
such a message that Putin is not real00:53:26
in fact he died, that's it after all00:53:29
please forgive me for fools00:53:31
because maybe a quarter maybe00:53:34
be a third of our respected population00:53:36
considering that approximately a third of the world's people00:53:39
says that the earth is flat and why should I00:53:42
to believe that someone is here instead of studying00:53:45
a huge number of people believe everything00:53:48
true body lisa dollars so on and00:53:51
United States too and when00:53:53
also trump you told everything so00:53:56
this does not characterize Putin00:53:58
characterizes our country in such a way00:54:00
to what extent is all this [ __ ]?00:54:03
taken seriously it is possible that00:54:06
this may be the case, but as I understand us00:54:09
structure of our political verticals00:54:14
very intelligent people are sitting here, don't stop them00:54:18
underestimate00:54:20
they are cynical and anyone else but00:54:23
they are not fools and they understand that if00:54:27
play this game before00:54:29
will burst and all those who feed around00:54:32
this bloody bubble will00:54:34
functionally splattered00:54:37
from head to toe so very long00:54:41
this kind of washing can’t last00:54:44
maybe there is some British one there I don't00:54:46
I don't think it's a reputable newspaper00:54:49
some tabloid or something00:54:50
soft yellow color, such [ __ ]00:54:53
spreads well, God bless them but00:54:56
I think this is not a topic for us00:54:59
suck and00:55:02
waste time on her00:55:04
I don't think that after all I don't think that00:55:07
Russia is such a stupid country to eat00:55:09
this one is better than candy00:55:12
My last question for you concerns00:55:16
recently passed law that removes00:55:19
age restrictions for conscripts yes00:55:21
that is, it turns out00:55:23
40 handbrake for contract for qodirov yes00:55:27
yes yes everything is correct thank you for that00:55:28
corrected for contract soldiers, that is,00:55:31
before May 9 there was talk that Putin00:55:33
may announce general mobilization00:55:35
hence the question, what does this give?00:55:39
removed this removed this age00:55:41
limitation and00:55:43
this means that there is a general mobilization00:55:46
it won’t happen or is it still a possibility00:55:48
remains00:55:52
then look00:55:54
first of all it means that duck hotel00:55:57
soldier this is the simplest and most obvious00:56:01
thought00:56:03
how soon will jack men of age 5000:56:07
years00:56:08
ready00:56:10
renting for money is very important00:56:14
to war00:56:16
it means that00:56:18
there are 30-40 men of the right age there00:56:21
seasoned and experienced specialists were knocked out00:56:25
jam means you need something00:56:26
compensate00:56:29
I don't think this is a good life because00:56:32
that fifty-year-old guys00:56:34
they consider themselves strong00:56:37
men maybe they are strong things00:56:40
enough but they really can’t say what00:56:45
they are very well trained at the best00:56:48
case there were guards in the summer 25 years ago00:56:51
many skills have been lost and in general00:56:55
act or will most likely act as00:56:57
cannon fodder for them to succeed00:57:00
survived but you need at least two or three of them00:57:02
conduct some courses for them for a month00:57:06
training so the first sign is00:57:08
means that the losses are real00:57:11
is significant and this concerns00:57:13
the question of how many thousands there are or00:57:16
tens of thousands died many died00:57:19
Putin doesn't have enough plus more like00:57:21
the number of wounded of course00:57:23
significantly more than killed, this is the first00:57:26
the second is about mobilization00:57:28
We will absolutely not need mobilization00:57:30
because now he is enjoying himself00:57:33
in the summer now wandering gray00:57:37
went to their dachas 6 juicy00:57:40
plots and cherish potatoes are planted00:57:42
flowers are not prepared by fools cucumbers00:57:45
doing what they love00:57:48
if autumn they return to brokenness00:57:52
trough because while you for example00:57:54
departed businesses from Russia such as IKEA or00:57:58
like McDonald's for two three00:58:00
months they pay salaries, that is, people00:58:02
I have money and when will this stop?00:58:05
will stop by the fall and suddenly among people00:58:08
it turns out that there are no sources of income from00:58:10
prices are rising they will rise and this00:58:14
Even government experts say this00:58:17
they say we are creating inflation in all humor00:58:21
there is nothing but smoking00:58:22
tomatoes and there’s also mobilization00:58:25
here the people the population can00:58:30
think about it and start scratching the front ones00:58:35
limbs in the back of the head and from the communicated00:58:38
This is not what these people think about Putin00:58:40
slow but knows how to think so00:58:43
come to him with the idea of a universal00:58:46
mobilization about mobilization howls only but00:58:48
basically everything in general is first of all00:58:50
admit that this is not a special operation00:58:53
war00:58:54
point one second the war is unsuccessful he00:58:58
second in third she, oh well, that’s already00:59:01
survived. our fratricidal war00:59:04
propaganda was successfully crushed00:59:06
because no Ukrainians are for us00:59:08
brothers and they turn out to be successful00:59:10
Americans have only been gone for three months00:59:12
television young and00:59:14
significant population this thesis00:59:16
learned how00:59:18
bear with scientific fact for them it is at war00:59:22
Yes, we are fighting with pages translator00:59:25
blessed is he who believes, as they say, but so00:59:28
or else we00:59:31
mobilization will not be possible before the fall00:59:37
statement about this kind of phenomenon is00:59:40
there will be a significant blow to that00:59:42
charisma is a bunch and no punishment is given00:59:44
he's not going to be lucky00:59:47
winner and what a pretty one00:59:49
trivial and not very decisive and00:59:52
rather cowardly and vindictive00:59:54
envious not vindictive your only to00:59:58
who with the blood of their subordinates01:00:04
ranger of theirs01:00:07
fellow tribesmen are trying to flood the neighboring01:00:12
a sovereign country with its own correctly01:00:15
your ideas about beauty where01:00:17
no one is waiting for him, let's put it this way01:00:19
You'll lose Ukrainian blood and you'll become Putin01:00:22
of course it won’t count, but when01:00:24
blood will flow01:00:28
some unpleasant moments will begin01:00:31
warming up about the fact that it’s not so01:00:34
he is both charismatic and not so much01:00:36
outstanding personality01:00:38
so I think that mobilization is01:00:40
the last step that Putin will decide to take01:00:43
instead he will try here01:00:46
hire while he has money glory01:00:49
God for him to hire these people and01:00:52
older ages to plug the gap and01:00:54
but it's unlikely to succeed because01:00:57
modern litter of smoke from the mesh war01:01:00
technology, these people don't think that they01:01:04
very progressive ones that go01:01:07
make money with01:01:10
There are a lot of murders in the country, but far from01:01:14
all and far from the best01:01:15
from an intellectual point of view01:01:18
character development01:01:20
thank you very much for taking the time to01:01:23
chat with us and on very relevant01:01:25
questions answered01:01:26
Dmitry was with us, thank God you are with us01:01:29
was Dmitry Oreshkin professor of free01:01:32
university university in riga hope01:01:35
I saw you again on our broadcasts, thank you01:01:37
big and goodbye01:01:40
we continue meanwhile there is one more01:01:43
important01:01:45
important news in general it concerns01:01:50
tortures that happened to prisoners01:01:54
Ukrainian military who are from captivity01:01:56
were released reports this01:01:59
Ukrainian Ukrainian Ombudsman01:02:01
Lyudmila Denisova we are talking about Ukrainian01:02:05
military personnel who after01:02:07
liberation01:02:08
are now in medical institutions01:02:11
most of them were taken prisoner01:02:13
Mariupol01:02:15
according to those released from captivity01:02:17
soldiers were initially kept in basements and01:02:20
economic01:02:22
outbuildings and then01:02:24
transported to the Donetsk pre-trial detention center01:02:26
correctional colony number 120 she01:02:30
is located in the territory controlled01:02:31
Russian army then captured01:02:34
blindfolded and blindfolded01:02:37
and they also brought them in sacks on their heads01:02:39
pretrial detention center and Taganrog and01:02:41
Voronezh01:02:43
Denisova note that it is especially cruel01:02:45
the treatment was with officers and soldiers01:02:48
Azov regiment according to their testimony during01:02:50
During interrogations they were forced to kneel and01:02:53
hit the toes with the butt of a machine gun and01:02:56
pliers were used on open wounds01:03:00
they put a noose around his neck and strangled him, as well as01:03:04
tortured with electric shocks by some Ukrainians01:03:06
military officials reported that they were in captivity01:03:09
unknown drugs were administered after01:03:12
Why did they lose consciousness? They lost their memory01:03:14
according to Denisova some01:03:17
prisoners of war were forced to teach01:03:19
poem01:03:20
forgive us dear Russians Russian anthem01:03:23
the history of the creation of the flag of the coat of arms is generally01:03:27
Of course, now I’m listing all this01:03:29
that's how we are in such a monotonous voice01:03:32
think this is some kind of thing01:03:36
that this is an institute of torture or what01:03:39
some kind of torture cell is simply not01:03:42
what is this a war crime?01:03:44
generally a crime against humanity and01:03:47
and how cynical it all is01:03:49
sounds forgive us dearer radiance and how01:03:53
this is an example of how they came to Ukraine01:03:56
the so-called freedom to give01:03:57
Ukrainians who I need it from them01:03:59
she was now being taken away from someone01:04:01
already taken from them, taken away their house01:04:04
loved ones were taken away but this is not the case01:04:06
not enough yet needed01:04:09
homeland of soldiers who came from the war01:04:13
aggression to commit genocide to force people01:04:16
kneel and learn the hymn01:04:19
Russian Federation it's just that01:04:22
an example of the most vile humiliation01:04:26
which can still be done01:04:28
human personality as far as everything01:04:30
may be equally human01:04:33
dignity to people who themselves01:04:35
there is no such advantage01:04:38
let's discuss this news as well01:04:42
with Alexey Goncharenko, deputy01:04:44
Verkhovna Rada on our air01:04:46
hello Alexey01:04:50
I was just talking about the message01:04:53
your ombudsman Denisova regarding01:04:56
not all soldiers who were tortured01:05:00
I managed to tell you please tell me01:05:02
In general, some business is being conducted on this and01:05:05
investigations that is01:05:07
we saw one just now at the last01:05:10
trial of Russian soldiers this week01:05:11
Is it absolutely a war crime?01:05:15
chances are that based on these stories related to01:05:17
torture against military personnel will be01:05:20
investigations will be courts01:05:23
actually I01:05:26
I'm sure there should be an investigation01:05:29
courts in all these cases and01:05:32
forgive this just justice this is simple01:05:35
so that in the future never again01:05:37
that's why this didn't happen01:05:40
we will do everything to01:05:42
these trials happened and all the guilty01:05:45
war crimes were punished01:05:47
I want to say that the most important thing is that what01:05:51
punishment is brought not only by soldiers and01:05:53
officers who you did all these01:05:56
atrocities of murder and rape but01:05:59
also for Putin to be punished and01:06:01
higher military-political hand 10001:06:03
Russia as Ukraine's delegate to01:06:05
parliamentary assembly of the council of europe01:06:08
I want to tell you that at the end01:06:09
April we01:06:12
adopted a resolution calling on all 4601:06:16
cardinal directions and thunder01:06:18
except for Russia, which obviously got thrown out01:06:21
Council of Europe after what she did01:06:24
immediately create an international01:06:27
criminal tribunal01:06:29
not only for the price01:06:32
direct atrocities by many01:06:35
Putin and everyone around him and what is it01:06:38
you are more likely to commit a crime01:06:42
aggressive war is in itself01:06:45
is a crime against her01:06:48
all relevant international01:06:49
documents would also like to inform you and01:06:52
siri that literally yesterday or the day before yesterday01:06:57
there was a report the day before yesterday 2 more01:07:01
famous goal of the nile from the center and center01:07:06
Wallenberg rubles are not from where they come01:07:09
to the conclusion you are not there have you been followed by everyone01:07:12
what happened in Ukraine during these 201:07:14
months and conclude that Russia01:07:17
we wet the genocide against the Ukrainian01:07:20
exceeds 8 and because for many01:07:22
people say genocide and notice how it01:07:26
detailed murder took and on the cycle with01:07:28
convention on the prevention of genocide01:07:31
the united nations organization is01:07:34
states quite clearly what it is01:07:36
genocide and01:07:38
genocide is not only total01:07:41
killings for genocide are calls and01:07:45
from public appeals and denials01:07:48
the existence of a nation is some kind of group01:07:50
for example nationally this is what01:07:52
Putin does it all the time and all his stuff01:07:54
surrounded by a decent amount of Ukrainians no it is01:07:56
just such pieces and just like that01:07:59
almost the same and so on01:08:01
calls to correct this situation that01:08:03
he does what we need to fix01:08:05
cleanse and help clear away01:08:08
acoustic especially01:08:10
then what is the mass and deformation exactly?01:08:14
this happens in Ukraine up to a million01:08:16
Ukrainians were deported to01:08:19
Russia on them by force especially01:08:23
deportation of children God treats 100 thousand01:08:26
Ukrainian children who were taken to01:08:28
Russia and01:08:29
in fact, it is now being forced01:08:32
assimilation are specially distributed to the sister01:08:35
sexual crimes to find and01:08:37
mass rapes that were well01:08:41
Of course this is mass murder01:08:42
unfortunately this also happens01:08:45
Mariupol Bucha Gostomel Irpen01:08:47
in general they do it all together01:08:50
Russia makes an unambiguous conclusion01:08:53
genocide genocide is the worst thing01:08:55
a crime that is, in principle, only01:08:57
maybe under international law except01:09:00
In addition, the convention is required by all countries01:09:02
which ratified it by the way01:09:04
Russian operation and funny when01:09:08
established they are obliged to do so01:09:11
react with not just shouted yes there01:09:13
genocide no it means everyone should01:09:16
do everything in their power to01:09:18
to01:09:20
stop what is happening with both eyes and eyes01:09:23
target01:09:25
I wanted to ask one more thing but here we are talking01:09:27
about genocide about the most terrible crime01:09:29
the soldier who received the punishment he01:09:31
got a life sentence anyway01:09:33
punishment for such crimes should01:09:36
be so you can say what it is01:09:38
fair in your opinion01:09:41
committing buckle up sorry01:09:47
regarding your question of punishment before01:09:53
there is a criminal code that is clear01:09:54
formulate the heaviest punishment01:09:57
which are in the Ukrainian criminal01:09:58
Code is life imprisonment01:10:00
And01:10:02
in fact, these are the punishments01:10:05
these people will receive01:10:07
as for the tribunal which I'm sure01:10:10
way to over Putin01:10:13
and to the Russian leadership, by the way, I think that01:10:15
the imperial tribunal this terminal must01:10:18
to be the Mariupol tribunal today we01:10:20
brought scary footage of how it developed01:10:23
there were no yards in Mariupol01:10:26
simply finds the bodies of the dead en masse and01:10:29
uploaded in one place will mature simply01:10:33
supermarket near the local cash register01:10:35
departments are just what are there in general01:10:38
going beyond the principle of everything01:10:41
for this it should of course be right here01:10:45
separate conversations are separate01:10:47
situation of legal means on01:10:49
individual is not a sentence and they must01:10:53
produce just to never again01:10:55
nothing like this in the future01:10:58
corner of the planet should not have happened01:11:00
it will be about Mariupol I just wanted you01:11:03
ask for cars with01:11:06
screens where Russian is broadcast01:11:09
propaganda01:11:10
is this some kind of mockery or some kind of purpose01:11:13
are being persecuted at all on someone it can01:11:15
work, well, that is, the city is just out of sight01:11:17
the lands were practically erased and there01:11:20
showing Russian propaganda01:11:26
a mockery of any morality at all01:11:29
common sense for Russia everything01:11:34
ok absolutely thank you actually01:11:37
speaking for this and01:11:41
territory of people and what's next01:11:43
brainwash while they have Dima there01:11:46
People don't really have TVs there01:11:48
there is electricity left in the city, then there are them01:11:50
still not and that's why01:11:54
And01:11:55
thank you we have poplar fluff in Odessa01:12:00
with this they01:12:06
invented machines that01:12:12
happening before imagine when what01:12:16
this will happen in real real01:12:18
of course it was impossible in the world01:12:22
especially if it happens to be found today today01:12:26
Kyiv day and01:12:29
Congratulations to all Kiev residents and everyone for whom01:12:31
this city is very important too01:12:33
I will survive the last difficult year01:12:35
2 months01:12:38
assault01:12:42
And01:12:44
pots and in the asset survived the cost of Ukraine01:12:47
but their pure thing is actually the mother01:12:52
cities only not Russian army and01:12:54
this is really where it all came from and01:12:58
Russia country01:13:01
culture and civilization01:13:03
left this city and and just then01:13:06
it is destroyed by bombing with missiles but this01:13:09
so I don't know to be honest01:13:12
she's nothing like this sand01:13:16
beat the united states of america began01:13:18
bombing London is something you just can't do01:13:21
possible in principle01:13:22
was unfortunately for Russia it seemed01:13:24
maybe unfortunately that's just me01:13:27
I join in the congratulations and let's take it01:13:30
I hope it's the next birthday01:13:32
he will celebrate his birth without war01:13:34
already01:13:37
I also wanted to ask Vladimir today01:13:41
Zelensky came to Kharkov and there01:13:43
there was talk about restoration01:13:44
infrastructure and so on could generally01:13:48
would you say there are still some cities01:13:51
That01:13:52
what leagues, regions and where life is on the sly01:13:55
starts to recover because01:13:57
We hear news like this from time to time01:14:00
in me cities in the same Kharkov are very01:14:03
many from the key do not return home to01:14:06
unfortunately this 8 fire01:14:10
people return to Kharkov and Odessa01:14:14
as soon as he appears he calms down a little01:14:17
situation leader woods adamante kievans I01:14:19
many have already returned a long time ago01:14:21
how the enemy was driven back and this01:14:25
happening all over the country01:14:28
ago I was at the world forum before 8 before01:14:31
went there to leave Ukraine there was no01:14:34
not a single optical machine was one on01:14:37
entry into Ukraine was very obvious01:14:39
about Ukrainian citizens who return01:14:42
home and people dream of returning as01:14:45
as soon as possible Ukrainian refugees are not01:14:47
type of refugees who leave and want01:14:50
stay on principle refugees want to live01:14:52
at home just unfortunately some of them01:14:55
they are not where today pobyva we are by the way01:14:57
I really heard that the last few01:14:59
weeks are really very, very many01:15:02
people return to Ukraine or find out01:15:04
how to do it and01:15:06
something else I wanted to ask you about01:15:09
about about Donbass actually what is there01:15:12
what is happening now and what are your predictions?01:15:15
what will happen in this region01:15:20
heavy fighting takes place01:15:23
the hardest01:15:26
Russia has certain tactical01:15:29
successes01:15:30
a number of settlements captured heavy01:15:33
very battle for Severodonetsk01:15:35
Severodonetsk01:15:38
administrative center of Lugansk region01:15:40
according to the saint, docked.01:15:44
retreat 100 thousand population all centurion01:15:46
15 thousand left in the city for the rest01:15:48
unfortunately some of them died01:15:51
very difficult battles will help but for now Russia01:15:54
it’s not possible to take Severodonetsk when?01:15:56
capture, strictly speaking, that is01:15:58
Severodonetsk Lisichansk this is the last01:16:00
agglomeration of the Lugansk region01:16:03
which is controlled by Ukraine capture01:16:06
Severodonetsk Lisichansk will allow01:16:08
Russia to announce some success in reaching01:16:10
the border of Lugansk itself is not even yet01:16:13
will have to do it in Donetsk they were already01:16:15
may forget01:16:16
capturing the full note of the Afghan this battle01:16:20
goes goes right these minutes but01:16:24
installed for the last few days01:16:26
optimistic01:16:28
Ukraine stopped its offensive on01:16:32
Severodonetsk and even several01:16:33
settlements around Severodonetsk01:16:36
liberated as part of the counteroffensive01:16:38
Ukrainian I can also say that01:16:40
counter-offensive is now underway01:16:42
Kherson region01:16:44
I will now say 110 Belyakov actually01:16:47
speaking Odessa and I just returned01:16:50
literally not long ago I went to the side01:16:52
where on the front there are also heavy battles going on01:16:56
south of Ukraine between Kherson and Nikolaev01:16:57
Ukraine01:16:59
trying to put pressure on Russian troops are busy01:17:03
chemically Persian simply01:17:06
I wanted to clarify about the territories that01:17:09
temporarily occupied now01:17:10
Russian troops somehow manage01:17:13
provide support to people who01:17:15
these territories turned out to be and how difficult it was01:17:20
unfortunately very difficult depending01:17:22
sometimes there is an opportunity to pass it on01:17:25
we gave the medicine because01:17:28
that we have big problems with medications in01:17:30
Overall it’s very hard, but the end of the voice01:17:33
people01:17:34
the occupier is responsible for life01:17:37
and activities of the territory to which01:17:38
unfortunately there is no takeover of Ukraine01:17:41
opportunities to ensure livelihoods01:17:43
these regions but it is very difficult there01:17:46
situation01:17:47
there is not enough food medicine01:17:50
many than high prices for and most importantly there01:17:54
terror russia01:17:56
Russian security forces01:17:58
more pro-Ukrainian activists people01:18:01
disappear01:18:03
it's just terror that's happening there01:18:07
such people in the worst traditions are absolutely fine01:18:10
yes indeed a country that01:18:11
commit war crimes01:18:12
expect some kind of compliance01:18:14
there is no law at all in this situation01:18:16
have to01:18:18
I'll ask the last question01:18:20
What are your predictions for next week?01:18:23
where will the main fights be and what might somehow01:18:27
influence the course of events01:18:31
it is obvious that the main ones are running further01:18:33
take place in Donbass also Ukraine my01:18:37
life was spent on no one during the hardest battles01:18:40
this is Donbass and01:18:43
they will continue, that's it01:18:47
saying this regarding the military situation01:18:50
also next week it's clear01:18:53
which I hope will finally be before01:18:55
6 package of sanctions which will include01:18:57
I don’t think I’m Russian, but it really looks like01:19:00
there will be a serious exception for Hungary01:19:02
for other countries it will most likely be01:19:05
embargo on Nazimov oil by sea01:19:09
Russian is not visible by sea01:19:11
in any case, this is also already like this01:19:13
serious because of course actually01:19:15
saying everything this one rests on01:19:17
Russian criminal regime and oil and01:19:19
gas01:19:21
thank you very much for being with us01:19:23
talked and went live until we meet again01:19:28
we continue to broadcast with you and01:19:32
exactly what I wanted to talk about we01:19:35
we were just talking about01:19:37
Mariupol and the situation in Mariupol01:19:39
despite the fact that civilians were01:19:41
taken out and so on, well there01:19:44
it doesn't get better and01:19:48
exactly what I wanted to say in01:19:51
occupied Mariupol began01:19:53
handing out Russian passports here I am01:19:55
said that cars drive around the city with01:19:57
screens from where the Russian01:20:00
propaganda01:20:01
They started handing out Russian passports01:20:04
Advisor to the mayor of Mariupol writes about this01:20:06
prt [ __ ] Andryushchenko according to him on01:20:10
territory of the Donetsk region which01:20:12
controlled by the Russian army01:20:15
They hand out passports, you don’t even need to do this01:20:17
have a passport yourself01:20:19
self-proclaimed DPR and this is essentially01:20:23
in his words, actual annexation01:20:25
Mariupol which starts with these01:20:28
actions of the Russian side01:20:31
newspapers are distributed with headlines01:20:34
probably all Russian propaganda and01:20:36
where is gay and at the same time cynicism01:20:39
preparation for invasion must be inevitable01:20:42
and the memory of Mariupol was taken without destruction01:20:46
and the deaths of civilians but I think so01:20:48
if you tell yourself some lies more often01:20:51
I don’t know what to say, maybe you are there01:20:53
and you will believe in it because you live01:20:55
a criminal but I can't imagine01:20:58
I think that01:21:00
I think it’s difficult, but if it’s everywhere01:21:03
you will create such a wonderful world where you01:21:05
glad to have bread and salt, then the liberator comes01:21:08
liberate from fascism by not throwing it before01:21:11
I know grenades and airstrikes having carried out and killed01:21:15
civilians but maybe it will be so01:21:17
without destruction and death of civilians01:21:19
there may be some more time in this01:21:22
there will be people in the fog but then01:21:25
fair trial is not the same as in Russia01:21:27
which neither the military has encountered01:21:30
generals are not officials, not corrupt officials01:21:34
he will do his job this moment a hundred01:21:37
percent will come as drilled now01:21:39
Alexey Goncharenko01:21:40
sooner or later it will happen and01:21:43
humanity must somehow01:21:45
understand I'm just talking about it now01:21:48
but to be honest after the Second World War01:21:49
war and the Great Patriotic War, well, I01:21:52
I couldn't imagine what it was like01:21:54
will happen on such a scale that history01:21:56
everything will seem to repeat itself01:21:59
did and still don’t know a few01:22:02
decades of propaganda that pours into01:22:04
ears are an absolute loss of humanity01:22:06
dignity led people to the fact that01:22:09
many people support these actions, I don’t know01:22:12
I say many I don't have an official one01:22:14
statistics for me are no longer 10 people01:22:17
100 1000 or 10000 is already a lot01:22:20
people who support murder01:22:22
civilians do not want to hear the truth and01:22:25
see this too in my opinion01:22:27
their responsibility01:22:29
her publication is published in Ukrainian01:22:32
scary footage from occupied01:22:34
Russian army of Mariupol man sitting01:22:38
on the side of the road crying in the middle of the ruins01:22:41
which the Russians left behind01:22:45
military let's little small01:22:48
let's watch the video01:23:13
will01:23:19
[music]01:23:26
all the shots here's why why01:23:29
propagandists do not show this video01:23:31
why don't they show the other side and01:23:34
he says I don’t know, he’s crying because01:23:36
probably people haven’t been given freedom yet01:23:38
Russian soldiers01:23:40
but nevertheless, stills are shown there01:23:43
also what the infrastructure at home looks like01:23:46
Kharkov please watch this video01:23:48
I think I’ve already flown around many shifts01:23:52
something else I wanted to talk to you about01:23:55
We periodically raise this topic for01:23:57
me she is very mysterious we are today01:23:59
let's discuss it with an expert this presence01:24:02
Kadyrovites in the war in Ukraine because01:24:06
I'm still here but not a single expert01:24:10
or some of our guests01:24:13
didn't hear any if for01:24:16
Kadyrov had a real goal to provide01:24:19
assistance to the Russian army in victory all01:24:23
disagree on the fact that this is some kind of01:24:24
show-off feeling, where are there more Kadyrovs?01:24:29
says and there is more of him01:24:32
Kadyrov's troops are waving their weapons and so on01:24:35
then yes, some people record videos01:24:37
it feels like it's01:24:39
something just absolutely cynical01:24:42
creating content for up to 2 of your social networks01:24:44
networks01:24:45
Well, that’s what we actually know, how01:24:49
at least we sow Kadyrovites fighting in01:24:51
Ukraine were shot by their own01:24:53
colleagues01:24:55
This means that this information appeared in the Caucasus01:24:58
in reality the first such incident01:25:02
according to the source's own data, occurred in01:25:04
early April in the room where she was01:25:07
seven Kadyrov’s security officials 801:25:11
entered and for some unknown reason opened01:25:14
shooting five soldiers killed one of01:25:17
survivors shot by attacker01:25:19
but it's some kind of thing I don't know what it is01:25:20
disassembly or not01:25:23
you don’t understand how they are connected and there is a second one01:25:26
a case when one of Kadyrov’s men did01:25:28
remarks to his colleagues who01:25:30
were engaged in looting and they responded by01:25:33
killed01:25:35
published audio recording of which01:25:38
Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs of Chechnya orders01:25:41
subordinates begin the process01:25:44
returned from Ukraine as a volunteer and01:25:46
Chechens who came from Europe means that01:25:51
what is the speech at the end of the audio recording01:25:54
presumably means I’ll make a reservation about it01:25:57
until presumably deputy minister01:25:59
internal affairs of Chechnya Aslan and Raz Khanov and01:26:04
and published by a human rights organization01:26:07
in iPhone the person on the recording gives instructions01:26:10
strictly detain everyone who may be01:26:12
looks like an opponent of the regime in general01:26:15
Of course it’s interesting, that is, we know yes01:26:17
what in Russia there in large cities01:26:20
for example in Moscow and St. Petersburg01:26:22
people who can't let's go big01:26:24
will rallies be detained for picketing?01:26:27
We know that there are possible criminal cases, but01:26:29
someone is practicing some quiet quiet01:26:32
picket silent protest when people wear01:26:34
some insignia there, be it01:26:36
green ribbon or white and blue01:26:39
white flag and some other elements01:26:42
colors in clothes yes yellow blue we know01:26:46
stories when in Belarus after mass massacres01:26:49
shares rigged elections when01:26:51
people came out against Lukashenko to change01:26:53
Baronova President Svetlana Tikhanov01:26:56
we know that there is a grower of this01:26:58
flag alternative white red-white01:27:00
they were simply outlawed if it's worth it01:27:04
some box on the balcony if on01:27:06
child hat white jacket red everything01:27:08
they stop you and take you to the police station01:27:11
and so on, here I am not at all01:27:13
simple but I can’t imagine it01:27:15
that in Chechnya and people walk around with some01:27:17
signs in support of Ukraine and from01:27:20
some kind of well what is this what is this01:27:22
calculations as you can see01:27:24
the opponent of the regime in man and01:27:26
delaying this will certainly lead to01:27:28
because many people absolutely01:27:30
these stupid rules will be incomprehensible01:27:34
why they were detained but apparently I don’t know later01:27:36
what will happen to them means what he says01:27:39
man given audio recordings force01:27:41
let your workers work hard01:27:45
brings everyone who looks like the enemy01:27:47
human rights activists of the Kadyrov regime01:27:50
stated that the so-called volunteers01:27:53
in Chechnya they recruit forcibly01:27:55
This practice in Chechnya is widespread throughout01:27:58
turnout is low in the country, everyone here is like pioneers01:28:02
and go to the polls and vote correctly for01:28:04
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin for a united01:28:07
Russia is such a region with active01:28:10
civic position who understands01:28:12
why do we need elections and everyone as one01:28:14
they themselves do not support one party01:28:17
funny, don't care at all, it's like Russian01:28:20
propaganda that is completely unnecessary01:28:23
you just let me explain something01:28:25
some time picture before where where01:28:29
It’s absolutely clear that you’re in trouble01:28:31
hangs him like Bashirova and Petrova01:28:34
and he stole everything and yes, it’s the same here01:28:37
we're going to grab a new one01:28:42
voluntary-compulsory yes I think so01:28:43
many remember from school and this is always me01:28:46
was wildly annoying, thank heavens that I didn't01:28:49
studied so much in a similar school where01:28:52
they say these phrases01:28:54
voluntarily-compulsorily because so01:28:55
does not happen either voluntarily or01:28:57
forced I don’t have to tell you01:29:01
actually in the republic massively01:29:03
detain men and force them to drive01:29:05
to war in Ukraine under threats01:29:07
criminal cases, we are now all that01:29:11
concerns01:29:12
the story with Kadyrov's01:29:15
Scandinavian people in Ukraine and those01:29:18
what is happening now in the republic01:29:20
Let's discuss Tumso Abdurakhmanov with the politician01:29:25
hello tumso01:29:29
thank you so much for taking the time to visit us01:29:32
broadcast press unit I have a question01:29:35
first I won't get an answer to this01:29:38
Why is Kadyrov in Ukraine at all? Why him?01:29:41
people there what is the purpose of this01:29:47
He loves01:29:49
those who are there and the formation01:29:52
put it on and code it in Russian01:29:55
coward guard creature apartments and cooking room01:29:57
russian army russian army and those are like that01:30:00
called volunteers01:30:02
in order01:30:04
Human01:30:08
of them arose for half, in my opinion it is01:30:12
not residents of Chechnya at all, hodgepodge01:30:16
going to space01:30:21
this is apparently like this apparently like this01:30:24
contribution radio attempt to curry favor01:30:27
show your absolute loyalty01:30:30
devotion readiness ready farm01:30:33
works more in Astana than the rest we are01:30:37
also, in principle, it is understandable not to encode01:30:39
could should have done it being being01:30:42
a traitor who crossed over then01:30:44
then he should side with Russia more he01:30:47
filled with standard profitable Travian01:30:50
region try to prove years01:30:52
back so everything is basically logical01:30:55
in fact, the scale of these01:30:57
volunteers who are forcibly sent01:31:00
how big did you get it?01:31:02
some requests from people whose01:31:05
tried to send it to Ukraine like this01:31:08
before she is very fond of coming01:31:12
information the point is that those who want01:31:14
make the public crap01:31:18
how do you understand that we don’t understand them01:31:21
even if there are several at the very beginning01:31:23
people with maybe somewhere a renegade to you01:31:25
to gather people in this is really those who01:31:27
go for money01:31:30
they ended very quickly and now01:31:33
such volunteers move down01:31:35
this heart explains why everything01:31:37
volunteer and01:31:40
tranches sent from Chechnya why are they01:31:43
the evening is staffed with champions thing because01:31:46
that there are no Chechens willing to go about 3 here01:31:48
here they do not resort to methods here01:31:51
amateur in practice when affected01:31:54
for some kind01:31:56
with him your seconds from his population01:32:00
who are subject to content laughing as for01:32:03
delayed mortgages held by them01:32:06
the guys gave in for the people01:32:08
offense or for example being01:32:12
under the supervision of those released from places01:32:14
imprisonment of such people01:32:17
they are now01:32:18
make up I make up by blackmail01:32:21
For example01:32:24
they are cool and under supervision01:32:27
they say either you see a fight or we01:32:30
Now01:32:31
we fabricate01:32:34
it is seen01:32:36
police stations01:32:38
and this is a violation for which you are again01:32:40
sending we or we leave 301:32:42
module and only forced him to do so01:32:45
moments rare moments regret them01:32:47
quite a few, and these are precisely the Chechens01:32:50
volunteers is what they are called in Ukraine01:32:53
we also need to really focus on group groups01:32:55
on those who were there we are not01:32:57
technologies of the will of those who turned out to be01:33:00
cache, well, here's mine, everyone is me01:33:04
I emphasize this does not apply01:33:06
Russian formations are really a question01:33:09
guard the importance of being the majority of those01:33:12
the so-called Kadyrovites who01:33:14
Today they are fighting in Ukraine for Russia01:33:16
these are not volunteers and so real01:33:19
the Russian army is employees01:33:21
the Russian Guard is the police in the summer it’s not01:33:24
relates hums yes yes yes thanks for that01:33:27
clarification01:33:29
I wanted to ask you now in general01:33:32
that's what we're like I can't hear I have two01:33:35
three times can you hear me01:33:40
this is very bad I hope that now we01:33:43
they will fix the sound and I can ask a question01:33:48
let's try again01:33:50
Let's try to call Tumso again01:33:53
while they are connecting it they are trying01:33:58
connect we will continue to talk about it01:34:01
what is actually happening to the Kadyrs01:34:04
Russian troops and what is happening in Chechnya01:34:08
here is the news which is literally like this01:34:11
from from from Chechnya security forces killed a local01:34:15
resident in front of his wife and after her01:34:18
a man was detained, his name is Magomed without01:34:23
Sultan on the morning of February 24th is the first01:34:26
day of the war three people came to his house01:34:28
police officers01:34:29
they didn’t state the reasons before01:34:31
Kadyrov's men have already kidnapped this man and01:34:34
tortured in general when I talk about Chechnya and01:34:38
similar news stories01:34:40
it feels like it's all but01:34:43
absolute routine that's just what we got01:34:45
they said that in principle there is something01:34:47
blackmail and people who have done this before01:34:50
were in prison and or some kind of violence01:34:52
they definitely don't want to be exposed01:34:54
so that it touches them again so that it01:34:56
affected their family and01:35:01
it’s clear that such people are simply very vile01:35:04
cruel instruments of pressure are used01:35:06
actually01:35:11
actually came to their home and01:35:16
security forces tried to harass him01:35:19
the spouses tried, it means the husband tried for01:35:22
interceded with her and wounded one major01:35:25
a man was shot in response with a knife in the hand01:35:29
what else is important here is that the wife of the murdered man01:35:32
the police kidnapped and are still holding01:35:35
into the waters of the republic01:35:39
another story about01:35:42
a repeat offender from Chechnya who has been convicted 7 times01:35:45
in seven years01:35:46
Bekhan Taisumov on the latest verdict01:35:50
should have been in prison in reality01:35:52
he is at the front and is liberating Ukraine01:35:56
great illustration of what we're talking about01:35:58
talked to our guest01:36:01
so in the meantime it seemed to work out01:36:05
us to reconnect with thomson01:36:08
hello can you hear me now01:36:14
the last question is which ride01:36:17
who asked how you01:36:19
we disconnected what we actually see01:36:22
about Chechnya, yes, we see that it always01:36:24
voting is almost 100%01:36:26
there for Putin or for a united Russia and01:36:29
many people have no understanding of what it really is01:36:31
the residents of the republic think in general not01:36:35
I know maybe you get it again01:36:37
some messages are not public01:36:40
Chechens are not Kadyrovites, how do they feel about01:36:43
do they support the war or not?01:36:48
were involved in supporting any01:36:51
experienced it not long ago, I highly recommend it01:36:54
our memory therefore talk about some01:36:56
support for Russian aggression of course speech01:37:01
it can’t be but in general it’s01:37:02
sociology for not only01:37:04
Lentil numbers can't be trusted01:37:08
Now you can’t trust anyone from Russia at all01:37:10
since the real one is up to this dependence01:37:13
Logia and there was killed murderous studies01:37:15
not recognized as a foreign agent in general01:37:18
do everything possible so that there is only01:37:20
who . and about the government01:37:23
Novorossiysk is about the crisis sociology01:37:26
she will of course call01:37:28
[music]01:37:30
sodium for example so now talk01:37:33
about the current there is a percentage and about01:37:35
support department I would in general I in general01:37:38
even here are the facts about the scale of Russia01:37:41
became a prototype, I think, both in Russia and01:37:44
arbitrariness of adequate people01:37:46
plenty of his eyes are beautiful01:37:48
understands what comes from anxiety01:37:50
included are not supported yet I think but01:37:53
she's earth there's no special try01:37:55
create such an atmosphere that the film01:37:57
which we thought they were01:37:59
minority feeling majority01:38:01
support the war or would it be01:38:06
As for Chechnya, well here in general01:38:09
speak01:38:12
bloodshed wars proved that we01:38:15
extract the case01:38:17
no aggressive01:38:19
wherever01:38:21
maybe we see Kadyrov publicly01:38:24
loyal to Putin if you have any opinion01:38:28
about how he really evaluates01:38:31
the actions of President Putin, that is01:38:33
Putin actually spent three months01:38:37
loses the war from the point of view that01:38:39
this little quick one didn’t work out01:38:41
victories but what do you think, this is it01:38:45
publicly supports because it's his01:38:47
real position or is he just flirting with01:38:49
Putin to retain power01:38:53
Kozyreva has no choice01:38:55
the future will be you must support01:38:58
Putin plays he wins so he01:39:02
did which will not support01:39:04
Putin will save 8 dollars but this is it01:39:08
this loss01:39:11
Russia at the very beginning01:39:13
what Russia has not achieved01:39:18
the assigned tasks were given out by the pale and01:39:22
they were forced to change their01:39:25
tactics is it baby who is it there01:39:27
Putin's Russia is always stalking itself01:39:30
problems from time to time when for the sake of01:39:32
there's an elephant trying to start a kunda somewhere01:39:35
this is the same01:39:41
the event is going there two hours01:39:43
one parachute landing always hit01:39:47
for Russia this is usually the first attempt01:39:49
it will be fast blitzkrieg does not work01:39:52
comes right back doesn't start anymore01:39:56
habitually expressed tactics01:39:59
the points created light up green01:40:03
removed01:40:05
in this war it is necessary to must Russia it01:40:07
she can she can01:40:13
women and practically the amount of difference01:40:16
in this regard now01:40:19
occurring in Ukraine it replaces or01:40:23
up and for those who watched then01:40:25
watching Russia, it’s familiar to us01:40:27
is happening now and somehow01:40:31
fast transport dress find out and01:40:35
we have to expect that this tree will be01:40:39
which is a panic mood01:40:41
I think I should no01:40:43
last question today is our poll01:40:46
it's about whether there will be war criminals01:40:49
who are currently committing crimes in01:40:51
Ukraine will they get justice?01:40:54
punishment or just some kind of punishment01:40:56
courts and so on regarding Ramzan01:40:59
Kadyrov01:41:00
when do you think the war will end01:41:04
is there a chance that he will not receive this punishment?01:41:07
will avoid01:41:12
we would like to say yes of course not01:41:17
awaits punishment01:41:19
speak like a future man what is it01:41:21
awaits punishment with you on clearly spoken01:41:24
we are talking about abs punishment here and01:41:27
Is he special?01:41:30
I don't know I don't I would really like01:41:34
I wish everyone didn't have it01:41:38
if there is really any hope for this01:41:41
[music]01:41:42
I find it difficult01:41:45
thank you very much first of all for01:41:48
what are you01:41:50
express your position openly01:41:52
it is clear that when it comes to01:41:54
Ramzan Kadyrov01:41:56
being his personal enemy is huge01:41:58
risks thank you for talking and01:42:03
all the best01:42:06
we continue with you01:42:09
Today we are somehow walking through01:42:11
personalities yes we talked about and about01:42:13
we talked about Putin01:42:16
Ramzan Kadyrov doesn’t even talk about such people01:42:20
know the words odious doesn’t fit here01:42:21
probably the most cruel and cynical people01:42:24
who are involved in crimes01:42:26
which are happening now which01:42:28
come happened earlier and01:42:32
another person who is definitely with01:42:36
crimes are connected by threads01:42:38
supports Putin's regime01:42:40
who usurped power from his country01:42:43
stole the choice and displaced the people who01:42:46
holds just a huge amount01:42:48
political prisoners in prisons01:42:51
Alexander Lukashenko01:42:54
the situation that is happening here I wanted01:42:56
ask Alexey Goncharenko for01:42:59
unfortunately I didn’t have time to visit him01:43:02
find out next time if we have it01:43:03
on air about the situation on the border with01:43:07
Belarus01:43:08
What exactly is Lukashenko worried about here?01:43:12
ordered the immediate creation01:43:14
operational command of the armed forces01:43:16
Belarus in the Ukrainian direction01:43:18
let's watch a short video01:43:21
We can already see the pressure on us01:43:24
it turns out through Poland and Lithuania Latvia01:43:26
and troops are stationed there01:43:29
North Atlantic bloc also due to01:43:31
maintaining the escalation of hostilities01:43:34
Ukraine unfortunately a new one has opened01:43:37
direction as we usually say01:43:39
new front and we can't help but pay attention01:43:41
this is the first thing we've talked about01:43:44
the Minister of Defense said approaching01:43:46
also no one for us one operational01:43:49
command to open on the southern flank in01:43:52
in the southern direction of our country it was01:43:55
yes it was strong last year well yes we01:43:59
then we realized that something had to be done, but01:44:01
time is so dynamic and quickly pushed01:44:04
us to the fact that we immediately need01:44:06
create this operational direction01:44:09
together the western northwestern will be and01:44:11
the southern wing without even creating it we01:44:15
forced to quickly on the go today01:44:17
practice the defense of our southern borders01:44:20
in this you see elliot rotation of armed01:44:23
special operations forces01:44:25
western and northwestern direction01:44:26
battalion tactical groups that01:44:30
to my decision are directed to the south and01:44:33
today they are covering together with the border guards01:44:36
troops on the border, mobile squads01:44:40
maneuver group unit well and01:44:42
the most important thing of the battalion is tactical01:44:45
groups we need to do this rotation01:44:48
this is my strict requirement01:44:49
and this is what tests our military01:44:54
wartime conditions but so far without01:44:56
wars and01:44:58
I feel and receive information that01:45:02
the guys behave there with dignity and so do we01:45:06
planning must be worked out in these01:45:09
conditions if God forbid war how how01:45:12
we will act01:45:14
but I won’t say anything new that of course01:45:17
this picture looks like it was 30 years ago01:45:20
sitting01:45:21
some means bureaucrats accept on01:45:25
their executive committees make some decisions01:45:28
it's all unnatural everything inanimate at all01:45:31
I can’t imagine this type01:45:34
the president can lead the country in01:45:35
twenty first century01:45:38
Sorry, I couldn't resist here because01:45:40
I'm just sick of the picture itself01:45:42
what is said even more precisely and01:45:45
the fact is that the armed forces of Belarus01:45:47
last week they extended their exercises01:45:50
on the border with Ukraine and Western01:45:52
countries01:45:53
the graph itself speaks about this01:45:56
conducting exercises01:45:57
at Belarusian training grounds in addition 2201:46:01
May in Belarus01:46:02
transferred 3a Trk Iskander to the border with01:46:06
Ukraine, well, that is, all this, of course, is not01:46:08
can't help but bother and accomplice01:46:12
Absolutely from Lukashenko says that01:46:14
wartime without war, but also in01:46:17
I believed this Putin legend myself01:46:21
also what is important and what else they don’t01:46:25
inspires some01:46:27
up good yes preparations are underway01:46:30
large-scale exercise that will take place in01:46:31
June, including sending trips01:46:35
the civilian reserve notes that01:46:39
despite the increase in training time01:46:41
Belarusian army at training grounds01:46:43
still not ready in any way01:46:45
offensive military actions but01:46:48
became more prepared for defense but01:46:52
again this is what01:46:53
it translates very beautifully01:46:56
Lukashenko laying nothing here actually01:46:59
there is nothing new and01:47:01
I think this is very different from Putin01:47:04
which is probably not that sincere01:47:05
believe their lies01:47:07
Lukashenko has such a complete feeling01:47:10
that he himself believes01:47:15
back to what's happening now01:47:18
in Ukraine01:47:19
I didn’t have time to say everything before we01:47:22
talked to Alexey Goncharenko01:47:25
87 people died as a result01:47:28
missile strike on the village of Desna01:47:30
Chernigov region01:47:33
what does Vladimir say on this topic?01:47:36
Zelensky01:47:38
Ukrainian edition is on fire today we01:47:41
finished work on the gum under the rubble01:47:44
87 victims is the future, our future is already01:47:49
there will be life this future our life will be01:47:52
without these people I would like01:47:56
Please note that I don't want anyone01:47:58
idealize but still more01:48:01
three months of war Vladimir Zelensky01:48:03
continues to just hold on as it seemed01:48:08
would be a model president for the military01:48:11
actions and contrary to what is said01:48:14
What is Russian propaganda?01:48:16
conditioned many, many times but not01:48:18
is required by Russian propaganda01:48:20
no confirmation of the facts that01:48:22
they voice and they are not ashamed01:48:26
show some videos that01:48:31
are fakes and yet here they are01:48:34
they said many times that Vladimir01:48:35
Zelinsky left Ukraine left Kyiv and01:48:38
we see as president01:48:41
actually travels on topics like a hail01:48:43
where the hostilities took place he did not01:48:45
leaves the capital he remains there the same01:48:48
like his team and is very accepting01:48:51
important decisions and I think that very little01:48:54
sleeps simply because it is necessary01:48:57
do everything so that not only Ukraine in01:49:00
won this war and was able to fight off01:49:03
Russia and also so that already on this01:49:05
stage01:49:06
restore what is from Russian01:49:09
soldier was destroyed01:49:12
human lives of course01:49:15
return but absolutely impossible01:49:19
It’s not just people who suffer from the war in Ukraine01:49:21
but also pets for some01:49:24
Ukrainians managed to smuggle out of the country01:49:26
their loved ones but many animals or01:49:29
remained under the rubble of bombings or themselves01:49:32
lost their owners in general about this01:49:35
ladies also write a lot, of course,01:49:38
First of all, we talk about the dead children01:49:40
we are talking about01:49:42
dead01:49:44
dead01:49:46
adults and so on but01:49:51
but the animals were leaving their legs01:49:53
animals are essentially very, very close01:49:56
creatures and people lose not only their home but01:50:00
also and also very very close members01:50:05
family so to speak01:50:07
in the meantime he joins us on air01:50:10
guest01:50:15
This01:50:17
Frank Vecherka Advisor to Svetlana Tikhanov01:50:20
sky hello good afternoon good afternoon01:50:23
thank you very much for taking the time01:50:26
chat01:50:27
the first thing I wanted to ask is this01:50:30
I told you literally before you01:50:31
connected about the fact that the exercises are taking place01:50:34
on the territory of Belarus on the border01:50:37
can you explain a little what they are for?01:50:40
pass if there is a real possibility that01:50:42
that from Belarus there will be01:50:44
come from where I was preparing01:50:47
attack by own01:50:49
yes of course but really or01:50:52
permanent treatments occur starting01:50:54
from december to wildly 2021 eriksen dori01:50:58
then they write it ended with the introduction01:51:01
Russian troops and so on Ukraine01:51:03
Now these teachings are most likely Tokayev01:51:06
have pr and 7 on one side they should01:51:09
and trolling to create the image of an enemy01:51:10
Lukashenko is constantly surrounded01:51:12
threat therefore society must01:51:14
rally in the robots of a great leader with01:51:16
on the other hand this demonstration01:51:17
Lukashenko must be loyal to Putin01:51:20
somehow shows that he is faithful01:51:23
that he is reliable and here we are01:51:26
defend Ukrainian in Belarusian01:51:28
border one vacation Nazis know how much01:51:30
it works effectively, of course, but I believe01:51:32
that the study will lead to some kind of input01:51:35
in the entry of Belarusian troops into Ukraine01:51:37
I wouldn't, but on the other hand somehow01:51:40
discount dangers risks and also not01:51:43
will01:51:45
Well, we’re also almost in Belarus01:51:49
the situation is similar only even worse than in01:51:51
in Russia people do not go to protests01:51:54
and of course repression and so on but01:51:57
maybe you know how real it is01:51:59
Belarusians relate to the war01:52:02
whether they support her or not because I'm here01:52:05
I can’t imagine how this can be assessed01:52:07
I think sociological polls too01:52:08
you have everything drawn, but maybe01:52:11
they wrote to you as01:52:13
ordinary Belarusian does not apply01:52:16
right in Belarus as in Russia but not01:52:20
you can absolutely believe it is magical01:52:22
question but what can you watch this01:52:23
dynamics we see the dynamics that people are all01:52:26
has a more and more negative attitude towards01:52:27
war is not for them something is not their war to01:52:30
Russian troops should not even participate01:52:32
Lukashenko supporters are the majority01:52:34
Lukashenko supporters against this war01:52:36
and that’s why he’s kind of for rhetoric01:52:39
divides very strongly on one side01:52:41
says that we need to help the Russians with01:52:43
the other side said in no way01:52:45
we shouldn't be involved in this01:52:46
until there are requests that makes in March01:52:49
phone nickname one internet survey which01:52:52
you can believe there they show 8601:52:54
percent of those who are against participation01:52:57
Belarusian troops in the war01:52:59
the number of those who are more likely to be positive01:53:02
assess Russia's actions as much as before01:53:04
30 percent which of course is01:53:06
the result of huge TV propaganda01:53:09
Lukashenko's TV channels which01:53:11
copy completely Russian01:53:12
propaganda narrative01:53:15
I wanted to know nothing from you about01:53:17
recently passed law01:53:19
death penalty for attempted terrorism and01:53:23
Some people are being tried under this article01:53:25
oppositionists to activists like you01:53:28
do you think what this could lead to?01:53:30
In general, this is a way to scare even more01:53:34
or there I don’t know how to settle scores with01:53:36
with my personal enemies in my wallet01:53:39
first of all it's to settle scores because01:53:42
that in the twentieth year Gashenko was very01:53:44
I was very scared until people came out en masse01:53:48
no one expected this on the streets themselves01:53:51
Belarusians didn’t expect the videos to be worth it01:53:53
sat in these cars and trembled and01:53:56
were leaving when the crowd left in their direction01:53:58
now he understands that if they01:54:01
stop the repression even for one day01:54:03
millions will come out therefore repressive01:54:05
the car doesn't stop for a second01:54:06
and every day some symbolic01:54:09
demonstrative searches were closed here ben01:54:12
Russian bookstore in criminal case01:54:14
incited to extremism to death01:54:16
execution has now been introduced and is now happening01:54:20
trial of Nikolai Autukhovich named after him01:54:22
threatens mortals, we do not exclude01:54:24
that the partisans who detained during01:54:26
attempted arson or arson relay01:54:29
they can also award my cabinets01:54:30
the death penalty is all attempts as well01:54:33
will scare you to settle scores and for Lukashenko01:54:36
also an opportunity to show yourself as01:54:38
strong leader thought he was laughed at01:54:40
twentieth year01:54:41
old grandfather01:54:43
who forgot to take his pills now he01:54:46
with these terrifying repressions on my01:54:49
it proves to people's lives I'm not old I'm01:54:51
not a grandfather, I still have the strength if I need it01:54:55
David shut you all up and just like that01:54:57
destroying people's lives, tearing families apart01:55:02
just massive such terror on us01:55:04
I've never really been completely01:55:07
the world laughed for a long time at absurdities01:55:09
Lukashenko it turned out that he was not at all01:55:12
funny I'm ceran01:55:14
terrible cruel and it's certainly scary01:55:16
strongly and what I wanted from you is this01:55:20
to know01:55:22
actually01:55:24
about Lukashenko and his entourage you01:55:29
they said that there are those who don’t01:55:31
supports what this is connected with but here in01:55:33
Russia, for example, says that they appeared01:55:34
sanctions and vice versa rallied01:55:37
environment around Putin because01:55:39
realized that in the whole world they were not welcome there and01:55:41
not happy why what contributed01:55:44
in fact, in the distance it’s like some01:55:46
people for circling condemnation of actions01:55:48
Lukashenko01:55:50
Gashenko their Belarus and another structure01:55:53
new tour economy than in Russia01:55:55
so we can't compare01:55:57
there are such obvious oligarchs01:56:00
close officials who have01:56:02
access to corruption schemes and01:56:04
the guy earns millions this way01:56:06
Ricard ethnics who feed and only01:56:08
Lukashenko is a guarantee that they01:56:10
will be with resource and now when also01:56:13
imposed sanctions, they understand that all these01:56:15
corruption schemes this whole contract01:56:18
tearful with Lukashenko he is now starting01:56:20
fall apart thus sanctions on01:56:22
help not only to get rid of Lukashenko01:56:24
resource we will also destroy01:56:26
corruption schemes and divide01:56:29
split or you but on the other hand than01:56:32
differs from Russia in that these01:56:34
officials also understand what01:56:35
an alternative that Russia may not have01:56:37
I don’t understand what’s wrong with you in Belarus and this01:56:40
connection with Europe and what this one has01:56:42
sock as the elected leader they have01:56:45
vario we are now seeing a lot01:56:47
for example trying to join01:56:49
to alternative structures day of forces01:56:51
Baikal is01:56:53
organizations created by former01:56:55
skills that escaped the Lukashenko regime01:56:57
this of course does owning that but everything01:57:00
waiting for some kind of trigger like a fire on01:57:02
peat bog when something burns when she01:57:04
we don’t know if it will flare up, but it’s from anticipation01:57:07
exists in society in the nomenclature and01:57:09
Lukashenko is also waiting for him and exactly01:57:12
because of this he is so shy and will be01:57:14
draconian laws01:57:16
In general, what do you think this can do?01:57:19
induce01:57:20
Lukashenko disown Putin for us01:57:23
practically there is one of his01:57:26
the last so-called friends left01:57:28
what can motivate him?01:57:31
bud from poutine01:57:33
good question, I think it's nothing01:57:36
you know Lukashenko is like a dog on a leash01:57:39
Miller's drag on the chain should be shorter01:57:42
maybe longer but he has that chain01:57:45
Of course there is room for maneuver there01:57:48
radius of the booth but none further and01:57:51
so he was still dependent on01:57:52
poutine which are applied to the low garden and01:57:55
food and precisely because of this it is unlikely01:57:58
something about its composition can only be disowned01:58:00
if Ukrainian troops start obviously01:58:02
wins, pushes out Russians or already01:58:04
enter Russian territory when01:58:07
Lukashenko will very strongly declare himself about01:58:09
Ukrainian politicians and I will say that all this01:58:12
there was a game I was for Ukraine all this time01:58:14
this is possible but you are where they burn with01:58:17
this is very low for a kitten in general01:58:19
before that yes yes it still holds01:58:21
Lukashenko's dictatorship will fall, I'm sure01:58:23
much earlier than the change in Russia it01:58:26
much more vulnerable poor unstable and01:58:29
but it gives us activity, so what if01:58:34
look into the future just when01:58:36
Lukashenko's dictatorship will end01:58:38
Belarus, how many do you think01:58:41
reforms will take time after it01:58:45
managed to screw up the country and which ones were the first01:58:47
queue needed01:58:49
this is a great question or is the world the most01:58:52
the main thing is that legality can be restored01:58:54
will work out on the one hand01:58:56
normal correct punishment system01:58:59
those responsible are those who took part in01:59:01
repression terrorism01:59:03
demonstrative demonstrative violence01:59:06
on the other hand, it will provide the people01:59:09
concept into a reconciliation strategy to01:59:12
society was not divided according to Sorin01:59:14
so that these wounds they quickly so01:59:17
quickly-quickly heal how long01:59:20
This01:59:21
there it will take, we don’t know for sure, but now01:59:24
we are already working on these laws01:59:27
economic of course it will be possible01:59:29
fully defend the economy itself01:59:31
started because01:59:33
the public sector accounts for more than 40 percent01:59:36
to the Russian economy, that is, Belarus01:59:38
probably the only country with01:59:40
post-Soviet space which is not01:59:41
didn't pass my license01:59:43
the privatization period will already be necessary01:59:46
do your homework to prevent01:59:47
the return of the oligarchy to this01:59:49
privatization actually went towards01:59:51
benefit the people01:59:54
formed 2 and market efficient01:59:57
economy01:59:59
The last question will be related to this02:00:02
with such a big and complex question maybe02:00:05
Do you have any thoughts on this?02:00:07
account after the second world war great02:00:10
domestic, but it seems like a lot02:00:12
was done before it doesn't happen again02:00:13
war and02:00:15
on a scale as huge as you think02:00:19
after everything that happened when the war02:00:22
will end what we need first02:00:23
need to do02:00:25
so this doesn't happen again02:00:28
I think that what was not done after02:00:31
Stalin's repressions in the first place02:00:33
I’ll make a reservation, for example, this is02:00:36
everyone who is guilty would not repent02:00:41
the society did not hold a public02:00:42
discussion about what it was, that is, Belarusians02:00:45
up to this point, for example, evaluating02:00:48
discussing an event in the thirties and02:00:50
they don’t know how to eliminate Stalin’s terror02:00:52
then why not the side built by those who02:00:54
shot or those who were shot possibly02:00:57
this was the reason why Lukashin why02:01:00
Lukashenko's tyranny has returned02:01:02
terrifying trash so I think it will be02:01:04
very important for Belarusian society02:01:06
for Russian society for everyone02:01:08
societies to carry out such a reflexive analysis02:01:11
why did this all happen to tyranny02:01:13
never repeated publicly02:01:15
it really feels like we have two02:01:18
countries and twins which02:01:21
hope together soon02:01:23
get rid of their dictators and can02:01:26
build a modern developed society02:01:28
thank you very much for taking the time to02:01:30
chat with us02:01:35
we continue in the meantime the more02:01:39
the more news of course from Belarus02:01:41
and or you just see some news02:01:44
the more it feels like we are walking along02:01:47
footsteps on I think that there is no one here with02:01:50
I won't argue, let's really go02:01:52
in the footsteps of Belarus02:01:54
in the footsteps of Lukashenko and Putin he has a very02:01:57
there may be a lot of pain somewhere02:01:59
propaganda about professional can02:02:02
there's always something else on me to be honest02:02:04
it's very upsetting how02:02:06
for example, in Belarus a lot of people went out02:02:09
after the election fraud took to the streets02:02:12
I don’t know many TV presenters02:02:14
left and so on, here is Irada Zeynalova02:02:18
which is a former state journalist02:02:22
TV channel she said turn it off02:02:24
TV war and so on many02:02:26
by the way they are discussing arguing with each other02:02:29
what could it be but their meaning is that it’s too late02:02:32
what's happening now sorry but02:02:35
it's yours, including the fault you served02:02:38
this propaganda as correctly said02:02:40
alexey navalnij that it all started with02:02:42
little ones carefully rigged them02:02:45
elections and ultimately led to war and02:02:47
this cannot be denied on the other hand02:02:50
hand, what would be better if the leader and02:02:54
producers and no matter the scriptwriters and who02:02:56
he won't go on a visit anyway02:02:58
television slamming the door and something02:03:00
Having said that, but I think it’s the same one02:03:02
Zeynalli Weiss is loved and probably remembered02:03:05
all these people who have been watching for years02:03:07
propaganda and maybe someone is her02:03:10
authority creeps into his mind02:03:12
although of course we agree one hundred percent02:03:15
what we have now is simple02:03:18
decades02:03:20
agreement with one's conscience and02:03:23
in fact, but this is also a crime02:03:24
journalism must be independent02:03:27
and journalists who trained for this02:03:30
a profession that gave her their time02:03:33
life so on their career they02:03:35
not really any journalists02:03:37
are they are the propagandists we are02:03:41
let's move on to another important topic02:03:44
which we will discuss with the guest by the way, but02:03:47
for now I’ll say in general lately ROC02:03:53
it means she gave different reasons Kirill02:03:56
Patriarch Kirill very often gives reasons02:04:00
I don't know how to put my hand on his face02:04:02
action and this past week is like this02:04:06
there were more than 400 Orthodox communities02:04:10
transferred to the Orthodox Church of Ukraine from02:04:13
the beginning of the war but this is actually02:04:14
great amount02:04:16
first the invasion of the Russian army in02:04:19
Ukraine02:04:20
400 well, just over 400 communities accepted02:04:24
decision to be decided means to leave02:04:27
subordination to the Moscow patriarchate and02:04:29
go to kiss according to thomas02:04:35
here I might have maybe02:04:39
error in accent I unfortunately not02:04:40
strongly religious02:04:43
terminology to that Father Thomas about02:04:47
autocephaly02:04:48
says the statement of the Ukrainian Church02:04:50
actually go read more than 400 communities02:04:53
in the Khmelnytsky region alone02:04:56
exit from the center from Moscow02:05:00
patriarchy actually approved more02:05:02
100 local communities that don't want02:05:06
further located in the chapter structure02:05:10
hierarchies that support and02:05:13
bless the criminal attack on02:05:16
I would also go to Ukraine02:05:18
what did I mean, I often heard this02:05:22
from people who are religious02:05:24
who believe in god02:05:25
who say that God are not pacifists and02:05:28
actually, well, war happens, but02:05:32
At the same time, I have something in my memory, well,02:05:34
I don't remember before to rear like that02:05:37
desperately supported this war so that he02:05:40
covered up crimes against civilians02:05:42
people but in the end if you do02:05:45
the path to your son is loyal if you don’t know maybe02:05:48
to lose something and so on from what02:05:50
you will speak out against the war what to do02:05:53
for example Pope Francis the Catholic well02:05:57
just stay neutral speak02:05:59
neutral02:06:02
the world has stopped many people do it yes but no02:06:06
Vladimir diocese the rule is simple02:06:09
another absurdity and this desire02:06:12
serve and that Kadyrov is that patriarch02:06:14
Kirill seems to be two twins too02:06:17
the mirror looks at each other02:06:19
Vladimir diocese rule sports02:06:21
patriotic throwing competition02:06:24
grenades in the assembly of machine guns02:06:28
that's what children's before the event when02:06:31
children there write postcards to soldiers I don’t know02:06:36
or I don’t know what they write letters to02:06:40
the letter z becomes disgusted by this02:06:43
there are no less against many people here02:06:45
who come to church first02:06:47
have a lot of trust in02:06:49
this authority and from the sacred02:06:52
ministers, well, at least because02:06:53
many people bring something to church02:06:56
not the happiest state of affairs02:06:59
for example or just but this is an institute02:07:01
which, in principle, in society has02:07:03
great trust among believers and02:07:05
use and manipulate them02:07:07
consciousness essentially represent the same02:07:10
propaganda serving propaganda02:07:12
serving the authorities they are people who02:07:14
living in this country is easy02:07:16
disgusting The media zone in Vladimir wrote about this02:07:20
these are actually the competitions02:07:22
they were fought and they were called holy warriors02:07:25
it just means terrible things to him02:07:29
119 teams took part, please note02:07:32
It was some kind of regional event02:07:34
large 19 cities of the diocese including02:07:37
vpeged and Vladimir legal02:07:39
Institute of the Federal Penitentiary Service02:07:41
Here I would like to draw your attention to the fact that02:07:43
probably lawyers should of course be able to02:07:47
I don’t know what there is to throw some kind of grenades02:07:50
fake before or what is it like to pass02:07:53
obstacle course and special squad02:07:55
appointments of the Federal Penitentiary Service Monomakh but how is everyone02:07:57
always the execution system itself02:08:00
punishments fall very very low02:08:05
I don't know how to lift it anymore02:08:15
in short, in short, in general, in sino sino02:08:21
once again to be embarrassed by this02:08:25
behavior of the Orthodox Church in that02:08:27
growing mistrust among society and02:08:29
Based on such situations, they conclude that02:08:33
everything about everything institute in the church like02:08:36
Vladimir diocese reports participants02:08:39
competed, including in assembly02:08:41
disassembling the machine02:08:43
throwing grenades and pulling up as well02:08:47
quiz on knowledge of the history of the fatherland and02:08:50
churches, well, basically in the quiz on02:08:54
knowledge of the history of the fatherland and the church is not that02:08:57
so that there is something very scary here02:09:00
although of course all these quizzes are on02:09:02
similar events02:09:05
they look weird but they just don't02:09:08
attribute stories to teachers in schools02:09:10
since it’s supposed not to cross out from there02:09:12
Ukraine, don’t cross out pieces and don’t argue02:09:15
attribute them02:09:16
communicate different points to children02:09:21
view and let them discuss unconditionally02:09:24
let them evaluate the personality, I don’t know which one02:09:26
some dictator draws his own conclusion but02:09:30
assembling a machine gun at a church event02:09:33
I think what's probably missing here02:09:35
Patriarch of Patriarch Kirill his02:09:37
huge02:09:39
it means a rolex watch or something02:09:43
him about expensive ones and so on, but here's how02:09:45
this combination is simple02:09:47
terrible head of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine02:09:52
called for the removal of Patriarch Kirill02:09:56
the actual chapter02:09:58
head of the orthodox church of ukraine02:10:01
Metropolitan of Kyiv and all Ukraine02:10:04
Epiphanius called on the Ecumenical Patriarch02:10:07
Constantinople needle in others02:10:10
local autocephalous Orthodox02:10:11
churches to condemn the head of the Russian02:10:15
Orthodox Church of Patriarch Kirill for02:10:17
propaganda of war and deprive him of the throne with02:10:22
This is how I addressed him02:10:25
a little bit02:10:28
a little bit02:10:30
I'll quote what he said, it's no secret02:10:34
that Patriarch Kirill is one of02:10:36
creators of the ideology of the Russian world and02:10:39
propagandist and popularizer herself02:10:42
this ideology is my belief02:10:45
fall under discussion is to file02:10:48
isma as heresy and Constantinople02:10:50
cathedral02:10:52
1872 Metropolitan speaks about this02:10:56
epiphanius02:10:57
one of the main directions of this struggle02:11:00
which is led by Ukraine02:11:03
opposition to the ideology of the Russian world02:11:05
this fascist murderer of the sky doctrine02:11:09
wrapped in shiny lose weight it02:11:12
embroidered in gold02:11:14
This is the kind of oriental fabric that is used02:11:16
here this word is like this pretentiousness02:11:19
probably as a metaphor02:11:23
what many people imagine02:11:25
Is gilding unnecessary in the Orthodox Church?02:11:28
pathos02:11:29
a place that is actually02:11:32
which was created for you02:11:34
there was a connection with God but it seems more02:11:37
goes to serve Patriarch Kirill02:11:41
the chapter actually talks about this02:11:44
Orthodox Church of Ukraine and02:11:46
in the meantime, a guest and I joined us02:11:50
I suggest discussing with him what happened before02:11:53
I told you Georgy Sukhobokiy02:11:56
priest hello george02:11:59
good day02:12:01
just a few minutes ago02:12:04
talked about the competition that took place in02:12:07
Vladimir region with gran throwing02:12:10
father's assembly and disassembly of the machine gun02:12:12
in general, the big question is whether it can02:12:15
orthodox church priest02:12:18
priests participate in this and how do we02:12:21
we've gotten to this point02:12:24
I was especially amused by this news because02:12:27
that our representatives of the Russian02:12:30
the Orthodox Church knows well what for02:12:33
people for their flock for those including02:12:36
who took part in this competition02:12:37
such a reward as ice cream there or02:12:41
Baskin-Robbins cake will be very02:12:43
serious rewards and because how02:12:46
they said it themselves02:12:47
clergy is unattainable for02:12:50
many things for me we are the most02:12:53
the main thing is that people know in our church and02:12:56
priests that their simple flock is for02:13:00
they are something like this from the transcendental02:13:03
I guess this is what I would like to talk about02:13:06
put special emphasis on what concerns so02:13:08
called patriotic education in02:13:09
which our church participates in is02:13:12
it's been for years but here it is02:13:14
exaggerated of course side in02:13:16
last last month02:13:18
the last month and a half is especially02:13:21
in all places there I can hear and I am talking with02:13:25
people who are still here02:13:27
support as social communication even02:13:30
they are already sick of it because she02:13:31
acquires but already some kind of transcendental02:13:34
forms even unacceptable for those people02:13:38
who are responsible for this02:13:40
called patriotic education and02:13:44
relations with the armed forces02:13:45
because there are such priests too02:13:47
that's it, but I wanted to emphasize more02:13:51
that Baskin-Robbins has become a Christmas tree02:13:54
a reward unattainable for people, that's about02:13:58
this is probably what our priest needs02:13:59
think about it if this is how our people live02:14:03
this is probably not a very good call02:14:05
for that very reason the priest can02:14:08
maybe you should live like this maybe you02:14:10
I should feel this one too02:14:12
life because the priest02:14:13
providing urban disproportionately more02:14:16
high, well, we know what's usual02:14:20
how does it work for us that there is some kind of02:14:22
signal or tormented tacit consent there02:14:25
Putin or his entourage and officials in02:14:28
in different regions they understand that02:14:30
will be encouraged that no it is not necessary02:14:32
even somehow an order from above02:14:34
lower the case with the Orthodox Church02:14:37
Russian Russian Orthodox Church02:14:39
this also works this is also an initiative02:14:42
on the ground because some02:14:44
is the position being broadcast by the patriarch or is it02:14:46
some kind of discharge this is mostly times02:14:49
order but if this initiative is on02:14:52
places, it is usually associated with02:14:55
receiving some grants, including02:14:58
presidential grants in which Russian02:15:00
The Orthodox Church is very active02:15:02
participate, that is, there seems to be some02:15:04
program it can and then not even02:15:06
be realized in life be realized in02:15:08
on paper it will be given let down and02:15:12
the same notorious one in quotes02:15:14
patriotic education and for this02:15:16
all matter will be received02:15:18
presidential particular grant or there02:15:20
gubernatorial whatever else02:15:22
this money then ends up in the diocesan02:15:25
treasury02:15:26
if something is carried out but at the level02:15:28
in the teaching of some kind of ice cream and02:15:31
photos gel diocesan website02:15:33
which is then placed in that folder with02:15:36
similar events and goes to02:15:39
Moscow for reporting not receiving it02:15:42
another medal of the order or something02:15:44
similar certificates of appreciation02:15:46
which we already love, this is usually02:15:51
it happens on and in general to build here02:15:54
it turns out weapons and so on in some02:15:56
Well, I won’t say cult but in general02:15:59
there are some similar competitions then02:16:01
statements about the military are generally well02:16:04
sorry I'm not religious so I don't02:16:07
we know this is contrary to religion02:16:10
Orthodox or something else02:16:13
war is interpreted02:16:15
unfortunately, if we talk about parishes in02:16:19
features of some distant02:16:21
diocesan centers or from regional02:16:23
centers if just on the level02:16:25
regional then on each individual02:16:28
you know the parish in each individual church02:16:30
each individual regiment can be you and02:16:32
the patriarch and the pope and the Lord is there02:16:35
God and he will decide what to do and what not to do02:16:38
mostly of course he can do it02:16:40
produce something for reporting purposes but02:16:42
exactly how it is to broadcast everything for02:16:44
his parishioners will most often decide02:16:47
he himself but due to the fact that in the 90s and02:16:52
zero years and, in principle, since the years02:16:55
so to speak above them, that is, this one with02:16:58
tenth year until 20 and until now02:17:01
education in Russian Orthodox02:17:03
Unfortunately, the church is not too high02:17:05
level therefore locally especially02:17:08
I repeat, selah father, well, not too much02:17:12
savvy they are somewhere, something is there02:17:14
caught heard and basically it's on02:17:17
so well02:17:19
such a banal level bordering son with02:17:23
something like that to talk about something02:17:26
I didn't get that serious02:17:29
I understood the papyration, I’ll repeat everything02:17:34
the pope himself like this02:17:37
happens02:17:38
I wanted to invite you to look02:17:40
short video with02:17:43
sermons about Patriarch Kirill and after02:17:46
literally discuss this on air02:17:48
let's take a quick look and share02:17:50
united Rus' and02:17:52
Kyiv princes and Moscow princes and02:17:56
old men kings and emperors02:17:58
everyone stood to defend the unity of the country02:18:02
here came such a gentleman or comrade and02:18:05
with one stroke of his own02:18:08
liquidated a single country02:18:11
creating Rus' on the territory of Russia02:18:14
historical Rus'02:18:16
independent state02:18:20
but since everything they did then02:18:23
revolutionaries, that's all it was02:18:25
This is connected with this deception of the people02:18:28
what did this man do?02:18:31
deception and on the one hand he signed everything02:18:34
decrees stating that on the territory of Rus'02:18:37
an independent state is created02:18:41
but very soon02:18:43
there is little left of this decision02:18:47
but it was a decision02:18:51
Supreme ruler02:18:53
decided to destroy his country and02:18:58
we know that the consequences of this terrible02:19:01
decisions today respond to fate02:19:04
all of us people living in Russian02:19:09
federations in Ukraine Belarus in others02:19:12
places of course many have gotten used to it, many even02:19:16
they think that all this is good, and God bless02:19:19
nimi koke how many heads so many minds but02:19:22
great country02:19:24
stronghold of Orthodoxy02:19:27
the force balanced all the other forces02:19:31
through these terrible historical decisions02:19:34
weakened02:19:37
you're not that I'm not someone there02:19:41
priest or patriarch listen to this02:19:42
human and political speech02:19:45
what is your impression of this and02:19:47
in general what what to lead them what02:19:50
motivates and makes speeches like this02:19:52
they just stand somewhere to the side and02:19:54
remain neutral02:19:58
for a Christian, even more so for02:20:00
Orthodox Christian in general02:20:02
politics she can be so good02:20:05
sense of the word not only with him about it in02:20:07
in principle, you can’t even talk about it for us02:20:09
Christians if I say so harshly02:20:12
in general, which state is which?02:20:16
the ruler is not so important in fact I wanted02:20:20
would of course he would be better somehow02:20:22
more there less progressive person02:20:24
who will not have the death penalty there02:20:27
prescribes for some small02:20:29
misconduct but you know I'm not even02:20:33
I find the strength to listen to the speeches of the patriarch02:20:36
then for me he ceased to be02:20:37
patriarch for a long time and02:20:41
except political except south tour02:20:44
cheek I can’t call him anything else02:20:46
That's why I don't even recommend it to anyone02:20:48
listen to what he says that we and02:20:51
there is a stroke of the pen of the 1st person02:20:54
a great country fell apart but great02:20:58
countries are large in their territory02:20:59
fell apart many times over the course of02:21:02
history, the Roman Empire would have been there02:21:06
before the Dutch Empire the Persians were02:21:08
other different empires so you can measure them02:21:10
call Byzantium and so on and so forth02:21:12
similar and time you went this is what on them02:21:15
other government officials took their place02:21:17
there is no political education in this02:21:19
what's wrong is it, on the contrary, it's progress02:21:21
on the contrary, development, but what if we get there?02:21:24
then one gets hung up and says02:21:27
that this is our sacred political and02:21:29
public education then02:21:31
contradicts Christ himself who02:21:33
said that my my reign is my kingdom02:21:37
not of this world, that is, not with Christ02:21:39
it was necessary didn't need some02:21:41
political education02:21:43
if he wanted to do it he would do it02:21:45
done on the territory, well then let's go02:21:48
Palestine or Israeli02:21:49
states02:21:50
did something of his own there, great big02:21:54
great powerful where did you go others there02:21:57
small nations and as Kirill said would be02:22:01
some balancing force but Christ is not02:22:05
became such a balancing force for some reason02:22:07
he didn't make his state his02:22:10
kingdoms not of this world and02:22:12
Patriarch Kirill knows this very well02:22:15
but he says what is on the topic of the day today02:22:17
for the rulers in the person of Putin and his02:22:20
so to speak, and the groups are neither more nor less02:22:23
not enough, so I’ll repeat myself, I don’t even02:22:25
I listen to what he says already so much02:22:28
tired, disgusted, sad, God forbid02:22:30
Lord, the brains are boiling and unnecessary, yes02:22:34
This is how I feel about this to anyone of color02:22:36
because there's probably only one02:22:37
internal negativity can arise from02:22:40
this is all but including him02:22:43
rhetoric of the system which he02:22:46
built Le Havre in the Russian Orthodox Church02:22:48
churches they led to the fact that recently02:22:50
Ukrainian Orthodox Church02:22:52
announced the decision02:22:54
become independent from Moscow02:22:57
patriarchy, tell me what kind of02:22:59
there will be consequences besides this02:23:02
some kind of ideological statement02:23:04
I prepared a little for this today02:23:08
broadcast had a conversation with the official02:23:11
representative of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church02:23:12
the church is exactly the one that is here02:23:15
guys, I was gathering this synod meeting back02:23:19
episcopal and so on where decisions were made about02:23:21
that in fact the solution is how02:23:24
this was not accepted; they just02:23:26
times confirmed what was decided 3002:23:30
years ago that they are an independent church02:23:32
that they are a self-governing church I'm here02:23:35
spoke to one of the speakers02:23:37
official at that church with a man02:23:39
whom I respect very much, very kind02:23:41
good man priest02:23:44
I’m very glad that I talked to a stranger02:23:46
several years ago the last time02:23:48
unfortunately I didn’t say this de facto02:23:52
declaration of autocephaly, that is, complete02:23:55
self-government full independence and02:23:58
rejection of Patriarch Kirill as patriarch02:24:02
without pronunciation without pronunciation itself02:24:05
this term of autocephaly02:24:08
I don't know, unfortunately or fortunately02:24:12
I don’t agree with this formulation because02:24:15
that I consider it today02:24:18
unnecessarily02:24:19
politically correct in my opinion Ukrainian02:24:22
Orthodox Church02:24:24
doesn't want to completely renounce02:24:27
Patriarch Kirill and02:24:29
Metropolitan Onuphry of Kyiv violet02:24:32
Ukraine who is the head of this02:24:34
he continued the Ukrainian church02:24:37
commemoration of Patriarch Kirill but no longer02:24:40
how to say your own so to speak02:24:42
your immediate superior02:24:45
there are, among others, Greek02:24:48
Patriarchs of Alexandria etc.02:24:52
others, and here is Patriarch Kirill02:24:54
but this means that what is Ukrainian02:24:57
the church is still02:24:59
continues to count mundi and his Kirill02:25:02
bishop02:25:04
patriarch Christian here for me02:25:07
personally after what he says after02:25:10
what he does after what he02:25:12
supports this terrible war after02:25:15
that he even blesses it all02:25:17
he stopped being a Christian and I think02:25:20
what if02:25:21
the Ukrainian church was not afraid today02:25:24
know so I didn’t put this one aside for myself02:25:27
know the secret entrance for further02:25:30
communication with Moscow then they would just she02:25:33
17 whether Kirill they would say officially02:25:36
that he is no longer a Christian that he is not02:25:37
priest, that they are a patriarch, that he is even02:25:40
doesn’t even dare to talk about these topics at all02:25:43
well, they keep counting it02:25:46
patriarch for me is the biggest02:25:48
minus and I think there is one you know02:25:51
very old man02:25:54
man denisenko man who02:25:57
thanks to02:26:00
30 years ago the Ukrainian Church became02:26:04
independent and self-governing02:26:06
independent from Moscow which later02:26:09
they literally betrayed their own for several years02:26:12
fosterlings, so to speak02:26:14
creating the Orthodox Church of Ukraine02:26:17
we subjugate Constantinople to the Greeks and02:26:20
here he is this filaret denisenko02:26:24
the latter stood to the end on the fact that in02:26:27
Ukraine should have its own in Kyiv02:26:31
independent of the patriarch, independent of and from02:26:34
Moscow independent and from the Greeks what is it02:26:37
there must be a church where they can02:26:40
all Ukrainians pray, regardless of02:26:42
where they live in canada you you there02:26:45
Australia in Russia there in Brazil so02:26:48
then the Greeks, for example, did02:26:51
Orthodox Church of Ukraine they02:26:53
Ukrainians refuse to take it, they say02:26:55
you are only within reach of the church02:26:57
Ukrainian state and therefore you02:26:59
is it called the orthodox church02:27:01
Ukraine and essentially only other Ukraine02:27:04
Ukrainians have no right to walk02:27:06
let them come to us with a brek there, that is02:27:09
this is 1 extreme Ukrainian02:27:11
Orthodox Church which was in02:27:13
in the Moscow Patriarchate she has a different02:27:15
extreme she constantly tries02:27:18
leave yourself where you are hidden at least02:27:20
some kind of secret loophole02:27:22
be an overly politically correct Christ02:27:25
us was not politically correct the best02:27:27
in the sense of the word that he went to his death but02:27:29
he was killed for this because he was not02:27:31
politically correct he didn't play this game02:27:34
you know the game02:27:35
unscrupulous therefore I think that02:27:38
today some people might not like it02:27:41
remained the most envious person02:27:44
the person Denisenko whose there02:27:47
cursed the Moscow church02:27:50
which they couldn’t possibly say that under02:27:53
nail drive the Greeks but who even here02:27:57
at more than 90 years of age on their02:28:00
remained in his positions, retained his steadfastness02:28:03
about the fact that Kyiv should have its own02:28:05
patriarchy has its own independent church02:28:09
they are laid turns no no no it is not from02:28:13
there are no Greeks, Russians, but from themselves02:28:17
Ukrainian people who are in this02:28:18
church will go who will02:28:20
pray in Ukrainian and will02:28:23
understand that their clergy are02:28:25
among the highest there02:28:27
high-ranking Anya people02:28:29
worry about what God is doing about them02:28:31
they will even think it’s Ukrainian there02:28:34
the Ukrainian state has a president02:28:36
Ukrainian people that they will be at home02:28:39
Ukrainian people and God I'm like this02:28:42
I think about this throughout the situation and02:28:43
I call on the Ukrainian Church which02:28:47
headed by mist Metropolitan Onuphry02:28:49
proclaim anathema to Patriarch Kirill02:28:53
tell me you don't consider him anymore02:28:56
patriarch and Christian because he02:28:58
can't be called that, that's mine02:29:01
such a call may be unnecessary02:29:03
emotional but very honest he and I02:29:05
I think that if I had a conscience02:29:07
leaders of the Ukrainian church they would02:29:09
that's what they did, but for now I'm here a little02:29:11
their conscience is not rubbish, but can I come to you?02:29:14
I’ll clarify what you think is why this loophole02:29:17
leaves for what to carry out02:29:18
negotiations or be afraid of the reaction, as it were02:29:20
the entire Orthodox community as02:29:23
I bind this in order to comply02:29:25
remember the so-called legality02:29:28
what Yanukovych said recently02:29:32
tell the days of my presidency I02:29:34
you see, I'm a legitimate president02:29:36
president of kindness maybe people won't let you down02:29:39
wants to see someone as president02:29:41
legitimate president and today02:29:43
leaders of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church02:29:46
churches at least so symbolically and from the boundary02:29:50
were away from Moscow 5 it was really up to02:29:52
but they believe that Patriarch Kirill is still02:29:55
still legitimate they want this one02:29:59
you know you're ready here this one02:30:02
God keep the legal side02:30:05
for mercy there is a war going on people are dying like02:30:08
can be observed now with the wicked with02:30:12
war criminals with these02:30:14
the occupiers showed some kind of decency02:30:17
ended as soon as they stepped02:30:19
state border of Ukraine as02:30:22
bombs just flew into the territory02:30:24
Ukraine as soon as Patriarch Kirill02:30:26
blessed02:30:27
this bomb throwing also goes to the same02:30:29
the very moment of its legitimacy has passed and02:30:32
not at all, so I think that02:30:35
I think they leave such a loophole02:30:37
that he and even the right to the ruling word02:30:40
the truth of Christ and truly there from his02:30:43
mouth as we hear and in this piece02:30:46
small reproduced the truth a long time ago02:30:48
alas, does not come from his art02:30:52
no legitimacy02:30:55
Today I asked my guests what would happen02:30:58
after but here's the case with this Russian02:31:01
water a political scientist after Putin in case02:31:04
with advisers quietly sock what will happen to02:31:06
Lukashenko what will happen after Lukashenko to you02:31:09
the question is what will happen to the Russian Orthodox Church02:31:11
churches after Patriarch Kirill and what02:31:14
in general it needs to be changed02:31:16
It's clear that it's a small strategy02:31:19
the most important thing needs to happen02:31:21
the most important thing is that ours finally comes02:31:24
the state, including this02:31:27
one might say a state within a state02:31:29
called Russian Orthodox02:31:31
the church so that it comes legal so that02:31:34
everyone was equal before the law and that these02:31:37
the rules of legality were respected very much02:31:39
strictly so that the punishment is carried out and02:31:43
brought to life so hidden for everyone02:31:45
are the same so that there is no nepotism so that02:31:49
illustrations were required02:31:51
church sign including this02:31:53
it's very important to start this can I can02:31:58
such an appeal to make for Western02:32:01
representatives of the democratic02:32:03
the free world can start with sanctions02:32:06
against02:32:07
church representatives today are against02:32:10
Patriarch Kirill and against the Russian02:32:12
the Orthodox Church is so organized in02:32:14
in general it would be very, very, you know02:32:16
it's important why because if there were02:32:20
sanctions were imposed on the Russian Orthodox Church02:32:22
church on them there, counting them I think too02:32:24
Quite a lot in Western countries02:32:28
leaders of the Russian Orthodox Church02:32:30
would begin to count and02:32:32
with their priests their opinion and with02:32:36
believers who feed these02:32:38
leaders goal and rules of legality02:32:41
if only they would slowly begin to follow their path02:32:43
well and then when I really hope02:32:46
I hope and I hope and I pray for it02:32:49
when new forces come to power in02:32:53
Russia so that the rules of legality include02:32:56
introduced for everyone without exception so that02:33:00
religious leaders weren't like that02:33:02
somehow separate something like that02:33:04
a structure that is not subject to anything02:33:07
just liberated and somehow here I am02:33:10
said the state within the state02:33:11
this shouldn't be all this should be02:33:14
equal before the law before the court in02:33:18
receiving some kind of grandees there02:33:20
subsidies and so on and so forth02:33:22
so that no one feels too bad02:33:25
freely02:33:27
protected when he does lawlessness02:33:29
It seems to me that it is very important that everything02:33:32
they felt that tomorrow they might be after them02:33:35
come there is nothing to say in the funnel02:33:37
come and according to the law according to the rules to02:33:40
publicly accessible we then the court and02:33:43
proceedings and process and so on and02:33:45
stuff like that, it's very important02:33:47
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