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Goncharenko People's Deputy of Ukraine00:00:03
Alexey is glad to welcome00:00:06
you Greetings Let's start with the00:00:08
results of the World Economic Forum00:00:10
in Davos, which took place on January 16-20, on the one00:00:14
hand, Scholz's hesitation, on the other00:00:16
hand, there was still talk about00:00:19
unprecedented assistance now00:00:21
some time has passed since you00:00:23
evaluate the00:00:26
results, I’ll tell you, I evaluate it00:00:29
positively And as we see even on the issue of00:00:31
tanks, in fact,00:00:33
the situation is already receiving a00:00:36
positive solution for Ukraine and Germany, and00:00:39
perhaps the United States of America will already00:00:42
decide to provide Ukraine with00:00:44
heavy battle tanks this is what00:00:47
we needed so much and so necessary in general00:00:49
I can say that I took part this00:00:52
was my third delivery and the first time it00:00:55
was before the invasion and now two in May00:00:58
last year and now after the invasion and00:01:00
of course this is a huge difference00:01:03
And00:01:04
if in In May, I can say that Ukraine00:01:07
was generally the only main topic. It00:01:10
all felt like now, according to the00:01:12
agenda, so to speak, there could not be00:01:14
many topics, and Ukraine was one of the most00:01:16
important topics, but this observation from the inside,00:01:21
in fact, there was not a single topic Wherever00:01:24
Ukraine was in red thread00:01:26
in any topic of economic political00:01:29
cultural00:01:30
Ukraine in any discussion, the topic of00:01:33
Russia’s war against Ukraine occupied one of the00:01:36
main places and was always one of the00:01:39
angles from which00:01:40
the problem was considered, so00:01:42
the support is really very positive in00:01:46
general, the platform is unique, of course, up to00:01:48
you because the place in which00:01:50
they gather and world political leaders00:01:52
and uh business leaders and uh major00:01:57
world media but only there in a couple of days I00:01:59
was not able to talk with the editors-in-chief00:02:02
[music]00:02:04
politicians from Defense Times and other00:02:08
leading world media It was very interesting to00:02:12
talk with business because00:02:14
at the Ukrainian breakfast00:02:16
representatives of00:02:19
Solomon Lori Finka came and spoke, these are the people who00:02:21
run uh Black Rock and Golden Sex, the00:02:26
two largest funds in the world, we are talking about00:02:30
trillions of dollars in management But these are00:02:32
just the basics of world00:02:35
business of the world economy and they00:02:38
specially came to the Ukrainian breakfast00:02:41
to talk about Ukraine I managed00:02:42
to talk to Gene Coulter and the man there is a00:02:45
billionaire or a legendary God Prince,00:02:48
people who manage00:02:51
hundreds of billions of dollars and they all00:02:53
say that we are very interested in Ukraine00:02:55
and we are waiting for the Victory of Ukraine to come in00:02:59
order to come invest, this of course is00:03:00
also very important,00:03:02
on February 19 Munich will be held in Munich00:03:06
the conference is essentially a few days00:03:08
before the anniversary of the invasion of the00:03:10
Russian Federation on the territory of00:03:11
Ukraine and in discussions about what will be00:03:14
discussed there, what the head of the Munich00:03:16
Security Conference said, he said00:03:19
that we want to consider a wide00:03:21
range of important topics, one of the topics00:03:23
close to me the issue of responsibility is at heart00:03:25
because we believe it is00:03:27
important that those who committed war00:03:29
crimes be punished, what do you think00:03:32
at this conference, here are the questions, all00:03:34
the talk about punishment, the creation of a special00:03:37
tribunal and so on, so that the00:03:39
Russian Federation is responsible according to the law00:03:41
for all these crimes that00:03:42
it committed against the Ukrainians and essentially00:03:45
against the Europeans and many states00:03:47
around the world, how will this move in00:03:50
Munich at what stages can the00:03:53
discussion of this particular topic be reached?00:03:55
I know here there are more expectations Munich00:03:58
this is certainly a very important conference,00:03:59
again this is a conference at which a00:04:01
position is formed a decision will be made00:04:04
on the position being formed This00:04:07
of course, a very important00:04:08
geopolitical number one event in the00:04:11
long run, one of the most important00:04:13
throughout the year, if we are talking about a00:04:15
special tribunal, then I want to say00:04:16
that a decision has already been made. And now I am00:04:18
joining you in Strasbourg, where the00:04:21
Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe is taking place. The00:04:22
January session I represent in00:04:26
message Ukraine I am the vice-president00:04:27
I was re-elected yesterday as00:04:29
vice-president of the committee on migration,00:04:31
refugees and displaced persons and I can00:04:34
say that tomorrow we will00:04:36
very important consider the resolution of Father00:04:38
A on00:04:40
[music]00:04:43
that is, legal aspects aspects00:04:47
related to human rights Russian00:04:49
aggression against Ukraine and Key00:04:51
attention is paid to00:04:54
[music]00:04:55
in a special international tribunal00:04:58
against the highest military-political00:05:00
leadership of Russia including Putin and00:05:03
Putin and Lukashenko, which by the way is very00:05:05
important and very correct that here and this00:05:08
couple gives this couple goes together and00:05:12
together there should be Twix and her00:05:14
dictatorial, they must together bear00:05:16
responsibility for everything that they have done,00:05:17
therefore00:05:19
this tribunal will be a very important00:05:22
revolution with a written principle and00:05:24
road map of religion, in fact it is00:05:27
on which this issue can also be00:05:28
considered in general, this is a very difficult00:05:31
task00:05:33
because in fact it is such a new00:05:35
nur is launching and it is clear that there are many00:05:39
issues related to the fact that this is00:05:43
serious legal work and is related to the00:05:45
fact that Russia is a permanent00:05:47
member of the Security Council and can block anyone00:05:51
using the right to block the00:05:54
decision, by the way, they find it absolutely00:05:56
illegal and in the Security Council it is, but this is a00:05:58
separate story and therefore that,00:06:01
unlike Hitler’s Germany,00:06:03
Nazi Germany, Nazi Russia has00:06:05
not yet been defeated,00:06:07
so based on all this, the task00:06:10
is not trivial. But the world is moving in this00:06:12
direction and of course this is very important not00:06:15
only for Ukrainians and for00:06:16
restoring justice for00:06:18
Ukrainians, but also for the whole world in order to00:06:22
prevent similar horrors from atrocities00:06:24
in the future Alexey And your opinion, how00:06:27
unimportant it is, this will be a Munich conference,00:06:29
there will be another discussion. How strange it is to00:06:32
come to a consensus on what should be the00:06:34
punishment for the00:06:35
perpetrators of those who ordered these war00:06:38
crimes who committed genocide,00:06:40
deportation, murder of 459 children. This is only00:06:45
according to the latest data from the office and the Prosecutor General who00:06:47
died children killed by the Russians what kind of responsibility00:06:51
in general what measure of responsibility how00:06:53
to come to it00:06:54
to understand How to punish00:06:57
How to punish we understand00:06:59
criminals00:07:01
should bear the maximum measure of00:07:03
responsibility allowed by00:07:05
legislation here is just the answer00:07:08
we have a question for another question today00:07:11
is How can the world start these00:07:15
processes at a time when that's how I00:07:18
repeat, the difference from Nuremberg is not00:07:20
only that during the time of Nuremberg they00:07:22
could have been hanged, today the world refuses the00:07:25
death penalty, but the difference is also that00:07:28
during the time of Nuremberg they were all00:07:31
defeated and were in captivity today00:07:35
Putin and his elite around him00:07:39
are in The Kremlin still00:07:42
governs the largest country in terms of00:07:45
territory in the world and of course this creates a00:07:48
difference in this and today the issue of00:07:51
the tribunal is very important not only for00:07:54
once again justice and not even only for the00:07:57
point of view of this in the future but also for the00:07:59
actual Victory of Ukraine and everything of the00:08:02
free world through the victory of Ukraine00:08:05
this is the difference and this is the main00:08:08
challenge and of course this is very, very important00:08:10
to do this is another actual front00:08:12
there is a military front there is an00:08:14
information front on which you also00:08:17
work and make your00:08:20
diplomatic contribution about which we now00:08:22
we’re talking where, for example, I work now, but00:08:25
there is also a legal front. And in00:08:27
fact, a lot depends on it too. Uh-huh,00:08:31
but the fact that this year Russian officials were00:08:32
not invited to the Munich conference00:08:34
about their reluctance to00:08:38
provide a platform for those who violated00:08:40
international law was said by the head of the00:08:42
Munich conference By the way, last00:08:44
year the Kremlin decided not to send its00:08:46
representative to this event either, the fact that00:08:49
representatives of the Russian Federation are not invited00:08:51
to such meetings is that00:08:53
Ukraine should be held in February, Ukraine00:08:56
itself should be held, it’s Ukraine, the EU is going to Japan in May00:08:59
for the G-7 summit name is Zelensky That00:09:01
is, in principle, this is the kind of diplomacy00:09:03
to take the diplomatic Arena, that is, it00:09:05
raises the path as much as possible, Putin, that00:09:08
there is no handshake or handshake, neither he00:09:12
nor Lavrov or he doesn’t understand how he can see that00:09:14
all these world events are taking place00:09:16
without the participation of the Russian Federation00:09:20
Well, here we are you started from Davos and until 8 there00:09:23
was also not a single representative of00:09:24
Russia, once there was a Russian house of00:09:27
Russian House of contents and in this house of00:09:30
Russia they ate black caviar and drank French00:09:32
champagne there, the world's top world00:09:35
business00:09:36
today in the month of May00:09:39
was turned into a russiance House then there is a00:09:44
house of Russian war crimes. That00:09:46
is, it is very symbolic. And this year the00:09:48
house of the Indian state of Mahara is located in this house. It00:09:54
also seems very symbolic to me; in00:09:57
fact, it says a lot about where00:09:58
Putin is leading Russia once again in the house of the00:10:01
Russian state today, the Indian00:10:03
headquarters A so00:10:06
of course this is isolation, of course this is Russia00:10:11
and all Putin and Lavrov and so on they00:10:13
are trying to somehow retouch with00:10:16
their trips.00:10:19
I arrived00:10:21
and there is also where Putin is constantly throwing00:10:25
But the veranda is somewhere else but the result does00:10:28
not change it is obvious that Russia is an00:10:30
absolute outcast A and what’s interesting is that00:10:34
in Munich, enough to say,00:10:36
this is where this attempt to restore the00:10:38
Russian Empire began in 2008. Putin in00:10:42
the market is not the already famous speech in which00:10:44
she seemed to challenge the West and00:10:47
actually spoke then Oh, yes,00:10:51
in 2008 and in fact then00:10:54
he spoke and the restoration of the00:10:57
Russian Empire is not direct, of course, but the00:10:59
essence was clear And then many00:11:02
felt this threat, but unfortunately00:11:04
not all of them, and then there was Georgia and00:11:07
then there was Ukraine and all this00:11:09
continues And unfortunately it gained, but00:11:11
now the momentum and scale that00:11:14
threaten to the whole world at some point the00:11:16
international community missed this00:11:18
threat from the Russian Federation.00:11:20
Well, now these statements00:11:23
have become more frequent lately, the00:11:24
turning point in the war is approaching00:11:27
Andrzej Duda said that the next months00:11:29
or even weeks will be key in the war,00:11:31
so Ukraine We need more weapons, and00:11:35
Duda also spoke about this to everyone at the00:11:37
World Economic Forum in Davos00:11:39
and called on the West to strengthen military00:11:41
support for Ukraine. Let's hear00:11:43
the president more:00:11:48
is Western support enough, that's the00:11:52
question, I'm afraid that the aid that00:11:55
we have already sent to Ukraine is not00:11:57
enough for Ukraine We need more of our00:12:00
efforts, we must mobilize to00:12:02
help her because the situation is00:12:04
really difficult and I am afraid in the00:12:07
next few months or00:12:09
maybe even weeks there will be a decisive moment of00:12:11
this war. So it is extremely important to00:12:14
send now additional military00:12:17
support to Ukraine especially modern00:12:20
tanks especially a modern missile for00:12:23
defense of Ukraine, but first of all, in00:12:26
order to stop the Russian00:12:28
offensive, is00:12:29
it enough? Here is your opinion00:12:33
on speed and the second point, what00:12:36
else can Europe give? How much?00:12:38
How quickly?00:12:40
I met with the Angéanduda in Davos. I00:12:43
want to thank President Duta for00:12:45
all his support and Poland, which did not00:12:48
provides Ukraine, but he answered00:12:49
absolutely correctly, is the answer sufficient? Is the answer00:12:51
not necessary? Here, it will be enough to carry out difficult complex calculations00:12:54
when Ukraine00:12:57
wins and liberates its entire territory,00:12:58
about it will be enough today,00:13:01
no, it means not enough00:13:03
about the decisive weeks. Well, let's00:13:05
say at the same time that all these 11 months00:13:07
they everything is decisive here there was no00:13:10
month that was not decisive it was00:13:12
always like this in the war it will be like this00:13:14
Therefore this month is decisive the next one00:13:16
will be decisive the next one will be00:13:18
decisive I unfortunately don’t think that00:13:21
within a couple of months00:13:22
we have the opportunity to end this war This00:13:24
means that our task is really00:13:27
to achieve as much as possible weapons for the00:13:30
armed forces of Ukraine because,00:13:32
unfortunately, we are talking about the diplomatic00:13:33
front, it is very important. But today Putin and00:13:37
Russia have taken the situation into the right direction,00:13:40
which is00:13:41
the main thing. This is victory on the battlefield, and without00:13:45
Victory on the battlefield, evil must00:13:47
be stopped here physically and without00:13:50
this, everything else will no longer00:13:52
matter, so today our all efforts00:13:55
on the tank to support Ukraine, weapons, everything00:14:00
necessary for Ukraine to00:14:02
physically stop the evil that00:14:04
threatens the whole world, in fact,00:14:06
Ukraine directly and Ukraine’s neighbors, the00:14:09
Baltic countries, more than Moldova, Georgia00:14:12
directly But00:14:14
indirectly this is a threat to the whole world00:14:15
Because if Putin’s plans00:14:18
came true, then this would be the end of00:14:21
international law, which means that00:14:24
Bloody chaos would begin all over the world where00:14:26
every country would decide to00:14:29
achieve its goals by military means, how crazy00:14:31
They were, this is something in no way In this case,00:14:33
it cannot be allowed This is what00:14:36
Ukraine is actually fighting against today Thank00:14:38
you very much Yes, thank you very much Alexey for00:14:40
this in this important task00:14:43
now for Ukraine and an important task00:14:45
now in this and for the whole world Alexey00:14:47
Goncharenko People's Deputy of Ukraine00:14:49
Vice-President of the Committee on00:14:51
Migration refugees and displaced persons00:14:54
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Итоги экономического форума в Давосе принесли свои положительные результаты. Достижением стала передача Украине танков и тяжелого вооружения. Во время всего форума тема войны РФ против Украины была красней линией, она всячески освещалась и обсуждалась. Об этом в прямом эфире телеканала FREEДOM заявил Алексей Гончаренко, народный депутат Украины. 00:00 Смотрите в интервью: 00:07 Итоги Давоса 03:04 Предстоящая конференция в Мюнхене 06:25 Наказание для российских преступников 08:33 РФ нерукопожатна на мировой дипломатической арене 11:18 Переломный момент в войне ПОДПИШИСЬ! - Telegram FREEДОМ: https://t.me/tv_freedom - Главные новости: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfw-Im__utr2oDnV4cbr8tQ - Интервью с самыми авторитетными экспертами: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6rh0Rwn3iTsfJChFNUmjw - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser - Twitter: https://twitter.com/FreedomNewsUA - Telegram FREDOM.LIFE: https://t.me/dom_channel
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