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hello, he is our guest00:00:02
Andrei Vladimirovich Trump drive where is the00:00:04
first Minister of Foreign Affairs in Russia00:00:07
who was a State Duma deputy after00:00:10
that until 2000, if I’m not mistaken, the00:00:13
person is Lavrovaya’s predecessor, if00:00:16
I may say so, a person who knows a00:00:20
lot about diplomacy, specifically Russian diplomacy, from the inside00:00:22
hello hello00:00:25
[music]00:00:36
why are we trying so hard to work and we00:00:38
promise our viewers that despite the00:00:41
blocking despite the censorship bans00:00:42
we will continue to go on air we00:00:45
called today Andrey Vladimirovich and00:00:46
because00:00:47
you wrote a very interesting thread00:00:50
on Twitter I recommend it it’s written00:00:53
in English, but everyone on Twitter has a00:00:55
button to translate it and read it in Russian,00:00:57
I recommend everyone to00:00:59
read it because you00:01:01
spoke quite clearly and interestingly about00:01:04
Putin’s rationality or irrationality in this war and accordingly00:01:08
predicted00:01:10
whether it would reach the point and00:01:13
nuclear weapons, will she press this very00:01:15
famous red button or not, I would00:01:18
like to discuss this with you if you00:01:20
could tell us in a few words00:01:22
about your vision of this situation, make00:01:24
your forecast, it was very interesting for us, then00:01:27
I just understand here and I understood that00:01:31
in the West, it means panic will begin, or at00:01:35
least the nerves will not stand it and00:01:40
slept a good life, we will say so and00:01:44
democratic conditions and relaxed00:01:47
and for them the behavior of course and the Kremlin, I00:01:51
want to say Russia because this is not00:01:54
Russia, this war in the hostel in general is00:01:58
repression inside for them from such a shock00:02:02
that is difficult to survive and many are afraid of00:02:05
losing00:02:07
their good basis and so on, that is,00:02:10
there is such an element, although in general they00:02:13
certainly have exceeded all expectations so far in the00:02:16
sense of00:02:17
decisiveness00:02:19
in responding to these actions00:02:23
sangsin are very decisive and so on, but00:02:27
I will go I was afraid that they would be afraid of an00:02:29
attempt at miniature blackmail and that’s why I00:02:31
wrote this brand in order to00:02:36
try to explain such a thing, yes,00:02:40
my opinion,00:02:44
Putin’s actions, the Kremlin’s actions, that is, the bumper of your environment,00:02:46
they are irrational in the sense that00:02:51
they calculate some steps and00:02:54
calculate in charge that they00:02:56
miscalculated, we see00:02:58
this does not change the fact that it’s that00:03:01
people act as if they are of sound mind, another thing is that in both00:03:06
English and Russian there is a difference00:03:09
between00:03:10
rational behavior and reasonable behavior,00:03:14
but then this behavior is unreasonable and00:03:18
leads many to think, this certainly00:03:21
leads many observers to think that00:03:24
they are crazy, they are not crazy. Putin himself is00:03:28
literally a child of noise to say00:03:30
thoughts and00:03:32
this is terribly frightening and some kind of00:03:36
magical manifestations begin that he can00:03:39
be, well, you know, crazy, we know,00:03:42
approach not argue with anything and agree with everything,00:03:45
this was extremely00:03:47
dangerous and00:03:50
that’s why00:03:52
I say that with their point of view is00:03:57
normal00:03:59
[music]00:04:04
most normal people00:04:06
just don’t seem fast, so usually there’s00:04:10
some kind of crazy person acting in this one and the language00:04:13
helps, of00:04:17
course it’s not that these are00:04:20
literally crazy people00:04:22
who belong like a hospital and these are just00:04:27
people behaving in a00:04:28
monstrous way and it’s not clear that there00:04:31
generally exceeds all boundaries, let00:04:35
’s say civilized behavior is so,00:04:38
but they still have reason, I know00:04:43
any bandits00:04:46
kill people, but only some of them00:04:49
are recognized by the court as completely crazy,00:04:53
he’s a bandit, but not crazy, but no, but00:04:57
you won’t drip on me00:05:00
please, like something like then00:05:02
a person who is not crazy, according to your own words,00:05:03
just mention we’ll meet, can believe that his00:05:06
own propaganda is a00:05:10
matter of lack of qualifications or is it a00:05:12
matter of 20 years of information vacuum to00:05:15
believe in the Nazis who00:05:19
rule a neighboring country, including a00:05:22
Jewish president, and to believe in00:05:25
these battalions00:05:26
Bandera and Bandera mobile I have it00:05:30
bad in my head, it still fits with00:05:32
the path that you describe to us with a00:05:34
rational Putin and more or less00:05:36
adequately, according to your words, Putin00:05:40
watch here, for example, the version continues the00:05:43
theme of the bandit, here the bandit decided to rob a00:05:46
bank, an example and00:05:50
people from the outside can to even have police00:05:54
or bank security seems inconceivable, as a00:05:58
person doesn’t understand what’s here, but it’s00:06:01
impossible to do it, that there’s nothing to00:06:03
catch here beyond protection, and so on,00:06:06
but he thinks in his own way, so00:06:09
maybe I’ll succeed, so I’ll do it, then00:06:12
I’ll be there pack about something I’ll commit, that00:06:15
is, this behavior will turn out to be00:06:19
crazy from the outside, you know in this00:06:23
colloquial sense, crazy, but that doesn’t00:06:27
mean that he’s gone crazy, it means that00:06:29
he miscalculated his actions00:06:31
or not, or it was believed correctly that he00:06:33
managed to rob Mark so here too, but00:06:36
believe your own propaganda, you00:06:38
know, we have00:06:39
a lot of people who believe in this propaganda,00:06:43
as far as I understand, of course we don’t have00:06:46
normal sociology, unfortunately we have00:06:49
good sociologists, it’s hard to imagine00:06:52
how they work and how to get a pain no00:06:55
less real picture and then00:06:57
they even poll in the West, it very often00:07:00
leads to big mistakes, for example,00:07:03
who thought that Brexit and England’s exit00:07:07
from the European Union would not happen until the last day00:07:09
because all the polls showed that the00:07:12
people were against it, and then it turned out that the00:07:15
majority voted in the referendum anyway,00:07:17
so all these polls are a00:07:20
complicated thing, but there In general, of course,00:07:23
it’s difficult for us to understand that people are afraid to probably00:07:26
tell the truth, and it’s not entirely00:07:29
clear that some part of the population and these are00:07:32
millions of people have been zombified, that is, they00:07:35
believe in this whole nonsense about00:07:38
which they were just talking about the00:07:40
fascists there and all that and00:07:42
you you know, I observed this, I was in00:07:45
the government, I was the Minister of Foreign00:07:47
Affairs, and even Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, at00:07:53
the end of my term, for example, in 94-95,00:07:58
began to surround himself with people who agreed with him, let’s00:08:03
say a lot will be needed and00:08:08
well, and then the information came not only if00:08:12
the cash register, say, from00:08:14
international affairs and estimates, try to make sure00:08:17
that this is serious information00:08:20
and the bosses00:08:26
outwardly00:08:29
give their information on the merits they00:08:33
work and by the way I don’t know exactly how the00:08:36
pine trees are something the same and all of Moscow is around the00:08:40
corner and judging by the expulsions from the embassies and00:08:42
now apparently that’s exactly what exactly the same way00:08:44
it works it00:08:46
works00:08:48
in general they work00:08:52
everyone knows we at least in the Soviet00:08:56
Union with us it is absolutely clear who is00:08:59
working and who is watching us who is00:09:03
bathing compra de marriage some kind of00:09:06
Western analytics imagine that is definitely00:09:09
complete nonsense but yes there is a big00:09:13
flow of this information as far as I00:09:15
can imagine now, I think that her son is still00:09:19
coming and when it comes to you wow, this00:09:22
information is written by professionals00:09:24
who know how to00:09:26
present it in such a way that you are their00:09:30
sources, is there something like music, is00:09:32
it no one knows breakfast, it’s all00:09:35
hidden this is with the Tsoraevs and the relatives there are00:09:38
like at 44 there are such people you know00:09:46
Lyuba, conspiracy theorists are scary in love00:09:50
a print these are conspiracy theorists all around and from00:09:52
all sides00:09:53
from there in creams such00:09:56
information is received from the dart from the serious ones, highlight the00:09:59
exact one from some kind of fortune tellers who are00:10:02
on camera maps when from serious00:10:05
people,00:10:08
so-called intelligence officers, and so on,00:10:12
such a picture develops and gradually00:10:15
a person begins to think because this is such a feedback00:10:17
connection like how the echo we are the echo of00:10:20
Moscow and how the echo pivot said and and it00:10:24
came back to you and and the person thinks about00:10:27
you see and then the battle and then he00:10:29
gradually00:10:31
begins to believe it, too, in the end00:10:34
I had a very close conversation with him00:10:37
why I actually00:10:38
because00:10:41
I have00:10:43
that he receives the wrong information00:10:46
but Karkat it’s difficult because he is00:10:49
inclined to believe this information but he00:10:51
likes it I have just a question just00:10:53
about diplomats and about the modern Foreign Ministry and00:10:56
about what it has turned into00:10:59
since, as it were, since you00:11:02
left there and in general how everything has changed this00:11:04
time, you also wrote a view of which is pinned00:11:07
on Twitter, right now I’m looking at it,00:11:09
you are turning to diplomats say that00:11:12
they are professionals, they are cheap00:11:13
propagandists, call on them to resign from the00:11:16
Foreign Ministry in protest, and where do you get00:11:19
the impression that modern diplomats00:11:22
who work there are somehow different00:11:24
from Lavrov and the years of Mari Zakharova, do you00:11:26
really think you know00:11:28
about at least one case00:11:30
at least now some diplomat00:11:32
who would declare that he will not00:11:33
support the modern regime and is leaving the00:11:36
views over the protest, I do00:11:38
n’t know, but this will not stop me from00:11:42
telling my colleagues the truth, someone also won’t00:11:45
say about maybe from some kind of00:11:47
development, maybe someone then00:11:49
some thoughts will appear in the end that this is00:11:53
impossible, I don’t know, I just did what00:11:56
my conscience told me, but I was00:11:58
in such a situation, this is not a new situation,00:12:00
but for a long time, as00:12:03
Soviet diplomats, the00:12:06
overwhelming majority there, except for00:12:08
a few,00:12:09
ran, it is explained that this is how It’s00:12:13
sad to report this is a new00:12:15
Soviet well and now they00:12:18
will finally bring order to the Soviet Union00:12:20
when I went through this and I was00:12:24
there at that moment on August 20, the bread of the00:12:28
middle of the day is already in Paris because I was00:12:31
sent just in case of00:12:34
different our position and secondly for00:12:38
in order for a fire to be stored there,00:12:42
ask if it’s completely00:12:45
along, and I want to fly, but00:12:50
you see, I was aware there, it’s00:12:54
called Basra loops, named simply00:12:58
novyj, it’s necessary at least as Oleg himself00:13:01
always calls it with his hands, and00:13:05
there were representatives of the Soviet Union, my00:13:10
former people after whom and covered by00:13:14
small ones that seem to be a pub or a fairly00:13:17
normal clipper and masquerades and00:13:19
professional heat very good ones from00:13:22
whom I studied, but such a00:13:26
moral decline00:13:30
is said, well, I was on dates with00:13:33
exactly the same thin such something on the00:13:36
possession also a moral decline we00:13:39
now see every day including briefing from the00:13:42
Ministry of Foreign Affairs and every00:13:45
time I’ll tell you honestly it’s just well.00:13:49
if only this was a separate shameful event00:13:51
that is happening and I hope that00:13:53
despite the fact that the bosses of the00:13:55
existing diplomats of today’s00:13:57
diplomats and now are Lavrov and00:13:59
Zakharova, yes, I would not just be scared to00:14:02
imagine that they would say it to00:14:04
Zakharova, this is my dream even 10 years ago in the00:14:08
Foreign Ministry, but I hope this video here has already00:14:11
worked, everyone was doing an internship there,00:14:12
she was already working, although she was still00:14:14
far from being representatives, well, she probably didn’t00:14:16
behave like that in the same way, and00:14:20
I hope that your call will be heard and00:14:24
that we will see some of your former00:14:27
colleagues employees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs who, well, if00:14:29
they publicly but at least quietly00:14:32
bring their work records and then00:14:35
they will have a clear and calm conscience, they00:14:38
can do whatever they want and many years00:14:40
later come on air with us, the same as00:14:43
how it is happening now with the00:14:46
Kaiser’s minister, thank you thank you all very00:14:47
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Бывший глава МИД России Андрей Козырев призвал коллег уйти в остановку в знак протеста против войны в Украине. Сегодня дипломаты стали пропагандистами. Во что превратился современный МИД, и как Путин устроил ядерный шантаж, рассказал Андрей Козырев. «Совершенно ясно, что часть населения — и это миллионы людей — зомбированы. Они верят во всю ахинею про фашистов», — комментирует заблуждения российских властей. Станьте спонсором канала, и вы получите доступ к эксклюзивным бонусам. Подробнее: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7Elc-kLydl-NAV4g204pDQ/join Мария Певчих - https://www.instagram.com/maria_pevchikh/ Кира Ярмыш - https://www.instagram.com/kira_yarmysh/ Бот команды Навального: https://t.me/teamnavalny_bot Наши соцсети: Телеграм: https://t.me/teamnavalny Инстаграм: https://instagram.com/teamnavalny Facebook: https://fb.com/teamnavalny Twitter: https://twitter.com/teamnavalny Поддержите нашу работу! 🔸Безопаснее всего делать это через криптовалюту. Биткоин-кошелёк: 3QzYvaRFY6bakFBW4YBRrzmwzTnfZcaA6E 🔸Наш Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/navalny_team 🔸Другие способы есть на сайте (в России открывается через VPN): https://donate.acf.international/ru
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