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so tell us the thing what's your story00:00:03
okay my story is um the way we do this00:00:05
remind me is we just we come out with a00:00:07
statement and then you ask questions and00:00:08
you ask questions it's a statement and00:00:09
then we we ask lots and lots of00:00:11
searching questions and then when we're00:00:12
satisfied we we say whether we think00:00:14
it's like a lie or whether we think it's00:00:16
the truth yes and justify our reason and00:00:18
then um the person reveals it and then00:00:21
we we we count the scores okay00:00:24
okay okay all right amber i hesitated to00:00:26
share this with you but here it is i00:00:28
am i once left hugo00:00:32
i left him and i went home00:00:34
i abandoned him you went home you00:00:37
abandoned hugo yeah hugo is your your00:00:40
your child yes we have to establish that00:00:43
he is my son he is my baby he was my00:00:45
baby00:00:46
he is my child you abandoned your son00:00:49
hugo how old is he again three he's00:00:51
three okay and yeah00:00:54
and when you abandoned him how old was00:00:56
he he was a few months old just a few00:00:58
months old yes00:01:00
like a little baby yes00:01:02
a baby a tiny baby00:01:04
a very new baby oh my goodness he was00:01:06
only a few months old yeah wow shocking00:01:09
yes it's true00:01:10
yes paul00:01:12
uh did you do it on purpose00:01:15
no i didn't do it on purpose okay00:01:17
did you do it by accident i did it by00:01:19
accident okay um and so how long did you00:01:23
leave him how long was he abandoned for00:01:25
i left him abandoned enough time to get00:01:27
upstairs to unpack the shopping of which00:01:29
there was frozen00:01:31
stuff and made myself a cup of tea so he00:01:34
was what he it was in the apartment he00:01:37
was in00:01:38
the you know you put the bikes and prams00:01:41
you know when you come home yeah and00:01:42
downstairs most buildings maybe your00:01:44
building has like a lock-up where you00:01:46
put your bikes and prams like a bit in00:01:48
the back of the building where you keep00:01:50
bikes and prams00:01:52
you left him there and you rushed00:01:53
upstairs to your apartment you unpacked00:01:56
all the frozen food rush upstairs i was00:01:58
quite tired and i had bags and bits and00:02:02
i i opened the door and i put the pram00:02:04
in and i took out my bits because you00:02:06
know prams have got a big space at the00:02:07
bottom i took them on bits and i had my00:02:09
bag and i got everything and i went and00:02:11
i locked the drawer and i went upstairs00:02:12
and unpacked the shopping and put it all00:02:15
away and put the kettle on made a cup of00:02:17
tea and sat down and was like00:02:19
you made a cup of tea00:02:21
as well00:02:22
meanwhile little baby hugo is in a bike00:02:24
shed00:02:25
in the pram00:02:27
yeah in the pram in the pram00:02:29
was the uh was the bike room let's call00:02:32
it the bike room right yeah was the bike00:02:34
storage room locked00:02:36
i had locked it but everyone in the00:02:37
building has a key00:02:39
so00:02:40
i could have technically gone in and00:02:42
found him but i mean i had locked it00:02:44
okay yeah paul00:02:49
i don't know no further questions really00:02:51
no further questions00:02:54
i've got more questions00:02:56
so what why on earth did you do that00:02:59
i mean00:03:01
when you've had a baby yeah you do get00:03:03
very tired00:03:05
and00:03:06
there's two things you're you're tired00:03:08
so you i mean i did leave my keys often00:03:10
in funny places i would find like them00:03:12
in the fridge or you know the butter in00:03:14
the cupboard or just weird things like00:03:16
that just from tiredness00:03:18
and so i think i was a bit tired i think00:03:20
you're not necessarily still used to00:03:22
having a baby even though you'll like00:03:24
have it the whole time all the time with00:03:25
you00:03:26
but i i think i was just on that00:03:29
you know00:03:30
my hand my arms were full because i'd00:03:31
done shopping so i had this sort of00:03:33
feeling of like having everything going00:03:35
upstairs and then just unpacking just00:03:37
kind of going on to automatic pilot like00:03:39
i'm packing everything's as it should be00:03:41
it's fine it's fine it's sit down00:03:44
i left him out like at the supermarket00:03:46
so of course it was by accident this is00:03:48
the point i hadn't meant i didn't mean00:03:50
to leave him downstairs by accident00:03:52
but still it still happened just out of00:03:54
forgetfulness because you were so tired00:03:56
at having to bring him up okay yeah00:03:58
there wasn't maybe part of you that kind00:04:01
of did it on purpose maybe deeply00:04:03
because you know maybe somewhere deeply00:04:05
i was thinking god just leave me alone00:04:08
i'm so tired i just wanna have a cup of00:04:10
tea [Laughter]00:04:13
i'll do anything for a cup of tea i'll00:04:14
lock you downstairs00:04:16
so if paul if you've got no more00:04:18
questions let me just ask one or two00:04:19
others yeah um00:04:22
at what point did you realize that you'd00:04:25
left your son00:04:27
i made the tea oh i put the kettle on as00:04:29
i was unpacking that's just you know00:04:31
what you do you get home and you take00:04:33
everything out and you sort of unpack it00:04:34
put the kettle on00:04:35
i made some tea and then when i went to00:04:37
take it to sit down i just had this00:04:40
you know this like sick feeling this00:04:42
horrible00:04:43
i mean i knew instantly what had00:04:45
happened this sick sick feeling and i00:04:46
ran downstairs i thought was going to be00:04:47
sick i couldn't even walk back up the00:04:49
stairs what was it like so you know you00:04:51
used to feel like so shaky and awful and00:04:53
what was his reaction when you was00:04:55
asleep oh he was asleep i think this was00:04:57
part of it as well like i'd he'd fallen00:04:59
asleep at the supermarket i'd come home00:05:02
he was quiet and i and somewhere in my00:05:04
mind i was thinking he's calm and quiet00:05:06
i don't need to worry about him he's00:05:07
sleeping soundly check like like he's00:05:11
nice and calm i'll get this done so i00:05:13
think somewhere in my mind i'd sort of00:05:14
put it like oh the baby's okay00:05:17
and he was okay but he could have been00:05:19
really not okay00:05:20
i mean00:05:22
if i'd have left if i don't know did you00:05:24
tell your boyfriend00:05:26
um00:05:27
not straight away00:05:29
have you told him i have told him you00:05:32
have told him yes i did tell him but not00:05:33
straight away how did he react if can i00:05:35
ask he was fine i didn't mention the cup00:05:38
of tea00:05:39
i just i just said i went upstairs and00:05:42
then ran back down00:05:44
and he said it was fine so everything00:05:45
was pretty laid back yeah it was all00:05:47
okay in the end it was fine but it's a00:05:49
terrible thing to do as a mother to00:05:51
abandon your baby because it sort of00:05:52
means like somewhere like what you were00:05:54
saying like00:05:55
could i abandon him yeah could i forget00:05:57
him like is he so meaningless that like00:06:01
so so did you yeah i imagine you said00:06:03
you felt really sick00:06:05
how long did that feeling last that00:06:07
lasted a while00:06:08
a while that sort of horrible00:06:10
adrenaline00:06:12
what do you mean when you say a while00:06:13
because that could be a short time or a00:06:15
long time can't it00:06:17
a while00:06:18
how long do you have to wait oh it's00:06:19
only a while well i mean i felt guilty00:06:22
for a long time for the i mean for the00:06:23
rest of the day i felt very guilty00:06:27
i was very attentive were you like oh00:06:28
yeah hey let's play together let's uh00:06:31
well he was only little so i mean he was00:06:32
still very very small so there's not00:06:34
really much pain but it was just like00:06:35
you're just staying with me i'm sorry00:06:37
just like cuddles cuddlerama for that00:06:39
baby it's really quite a difficult one00:06:41
because you know she's clever00:06:44
and00:06:45
you know when you're tired00:06:47
yeah but i mean now you're clever ah00:06:50
because i'm [ __ ] you you maybe you're00:06:51
out foxing us here with this one are you00:06:54
ready paul you ready to make your00:06:55
decision00:06:57
has00:06:59
nico done anything00:07:01
similar to that like is he ever00:07:03
abandoned yeah00:07:05
now somewhere yeah has he ever00:07:08
no no he's never done anything like that00:07:12
i mean00:07:13
no no he's more likely to take a tumble00:07:15
when he's in nico's care okay so he's00:07:18
nico's like drop like dropped him or00:07:19
like no no he's never dropped him but00:07:21
like they'll go and do a bit more sort00:07:22
of00:07:23
trembling games he's a bit more like you00:07:25
know with his dad00:07:27
does it ever worry like that he might00:07:29
hurt him or something or that he might00:07:30
get hurt i mean i'm always worried i00:07:32
mean they went swimming the other day i00:07:34
was like don't let him drown00:07:38
i'm always worried i'm always worried00:07:39
when he goes out all the time but no00:07:42
it's only been with me00:07:45
the real danger is with you apparently00:07:47
yeah uh basically00:07:50
now okay what are you thinking luke00:07:53
it's really hard to say because00:07:55
on one hand you kind of think this00:07:57
has to be a lie because00:07:59
a00:08:00
i mean i think it's definitely possible00:08:02
right i definitely think it's possible00:08:03
but i'm just trying to think is this the00:08:05
sort of thing that amber would admit to00:08:08
i can i can imagine you telling that00:08:10
story as a lie and then at the end going00:08:12
well of course it's a lie i would never00:08:14
do that and then you save face in a00:08:17
sense you know because i'm not a00:08:18
terrible mother because you're not00:08:19
really on you know you know like uh sort00:08:22
of suggesting the idea that it could00:08:24
have happened and maybe the thought has00:08:26
occurred to you or maybe you left him00:08:27
there for a second and then you went00:08:29
back and you know you didn't actually go00:08:31
upstairs and make the tea00:08:33
i think it's a lie00:08:34
for that reason00:08:36
uh but i i would not be surprised if00:08:38
it's true because i could definitely00:08:40
imagine something like that happening in00:08:41
the world you know a very tired mother00:08:44
kind of with her hands full you know00:08:45
it's the sort of thing that could00:08:46
definitely happen00:08:47
but i think in your case00:08:49
that it's nearly true but it's not true00:08:52
so i think it's a lie okay paul00:08:55
thank you i imagine for example you you00:08:57
left him in the in the the bike storage00:09:00
room and you let and you close the door00:09:03
and then you got to the lift and then00:09:04
you realize oh god and then he went back00:09:07
but you didn't get all the way upstairs00:09:08
and have a cup of tea yeah i wish i did00:09:10
have a lift that would be amazing00:09:13
yeah i think i'm going to go with a lie00:09:15
as well00:09:16
well careful she's going to get two00:09:17
points if that's true00:09:20
if00:09:21
we tried doing this tactical [ __ ]00:09:22
last time and i failed and it meant that00:09:25
i ended up00:09:26
so i'm not going to play the tactical00:09:27
game to be like oh well in case you know00:09:29
because basically yes she could get two00:09:31
points but if all right00:09:33
if i say it's true00:09:34
and it's not then you'll only get one00:09:36
point but then i'll get zero points and00:09:38
then you'll get one point00:09:40
true so you'll both get one point and00:09:42
i'll be on [ __ ] all so this it's either00:09:45
yeah yeah00:09:49
so i'm going to say00:09:51
just just00:09:52
just say00:09:53
i'm going to say it's a lie and i've got00:09:54
a couple of reasons okay uh00:09:57
all right well one00:09:59
it's the the00:10:01
there was a00:10:03
a point where you're saying yeah like00:10:04
you said it a couple of times i said00:10:05
yeah you know when you get in and you00:10:06
just want to you put your bags down and00:10:08
you make it you put the kettle on you00:10:09
said that a couple of times i feel like00:10:10
the kettle was an added00:10:12
like00:10:13
i feel like it could be00:10:15
a detail a detail that you added to the00:10:17
story to make it sound more like you00:10:19
were talking about more details00:10:21
uh00:10:22
and you try and justify it the sec the00:10:24
second or third time you said i don't00:10:25
know i'm just going to go like it's just00:10:26
a the cup of tea is a bit too much tea's00:10:29
too much it's just that extra detail00:10:32
is just00:10:33
unbelievable00:10:35
oh i don't know what to do am i going to00:10:37
say true just to00:10:40
um five seconds five00:10:43
four00:10:44
three00:10:45
two00:10:46
one i'm gonna say it's a lie a lie as00:10:49
well okay so we both think it's a lie00:10:50
amber00:10:52
yeah it's a lie00:10:55
it's based on a truth right based on a00:10:57
true story my mum left me at the bank00:10:59
when i was a baby00:11:01
and went home00:11:02
yeah which is way further and more00:11:05
extreme your mom left you at the bank00:11:07
the bank yeah00:11:09
oh my goodness so um yeah so she forgot00:11:12
me completely um and i was like man that00:11:14
could i could see how that can but i can00:11:16
see how that can happen00:11:17
although it never happened to me i don't00:11:19
yeah at the bank really how old were you00:11:22
baby i don't know yeah00:11:24
wow00:11:25
and that's what she said she just got00:11:26
home she was like i just unpacked the00:11:27
shopping and then i was like oh my god00:11:30
and then she was like00:11:31
my credit card at the bank and then she00:11:32
got to the bank00:11:34
oh and my baby00:11:37
yeah oh my baby's here too huh oh oh00:11:40
yeah i've got a baby00:11:42
yeah wow wow okay well paul00:11:45
we both just scored a point one point00:11:47
one point for paul taylor nice uh one00:11:50
point for me and zero for amber in the00:11:53
first round there i'm glad you had faith00:11:55
that i wouldn't actually leave my00:11:57
channel yeah i think it's possible but00:11:59
you know00:12:01
no no yeah okayDescription:
[From the archives of LEP - Episode 436 The Return of The Lying Game] Playing a game in which we have to guess if each other is telling the truth or telling a lie. This time Amber told us about how she once accidentally left her baby sleeping in a pram in a room at the bottom of her building, then went up to her flat for a cup of tea before she realised. But is it a true story? Listen to the entire episode here https://teacherluke.co.uk/2017/03/28/436-the-return-of-the-lying-game-with-amber-paul-video/
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