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Okay, so then a very warm welcome00:00:08
here in the room and also00:00:12
to watch from home. Today we have the00:00:13
topic in workshop number 3, the topic of00:00:16
species-rich species-rich meadows through00:00:18
proper care, experience from natural00:00:21
gardening practice, mind you, from our00:00:23
own natural gardening practice, so we have00:00:25
a larger one ourselves Naturgarten have00:00:27
already tried out quite a lot and00:00:31
wanted to show you a little bit. I00:00:33
need a little bit of00:00:34
information about which animals live there00:00:36
and ultimately what does that mean00:00:38
for the care of the meadows00:00:40
and we will in between, you00:00:44
might be surprised and I think00:00:45
he's making it so complicated, we'll00:00:47
come up with a relatively simple formula later00:00:49
because it's difficult, it's just00:00:50
not at all,00:00:53
so as I said, in between, God also thinks,00:00:55
what should I do all this,00:00:57
or what they're doing, do00:00:59
n't worry I've come up with a very,00:01:01
very simple formula, yes, I can00:01:03
promise you, okay, so that was the00:01:06
ordering in our garden.00:01:08
We're talking about what importance00:01:09
the meadow has for the species.00:01:12
You can00:01:13
prove it relatively well with the insect count, even00:01:15
show it to you, yes and then the practical00:01:17
experiences which times cycles how00:01:20
do we do it why the concept that's00:01:22
our concept that doesn't mean that we00:01:23
can take the concept now and it00:01:25
might not fit in front of the garden yes but00:01:28
I promise you you will take a00:01:31
few things with you and in front of them00:01:33
If you follow a few rules you ca00:01:35
n't go wrong. I think that's00:01:36
exactly what we're going to do.00:01:39
That's not the main topic, but we00:01:41
'll also look around a bit in00:01:42
agriculture and the municipalities,00:01:43
but what does that mean for them?00:01:45
Home garden then ultimately yes, there is00:01:47
also a study from Switzerland, for example, that00:01:49
actually lets you breathe a little easier in the home garden,00:01:51
that00:01:52
maybe everything is stronger than00:01:54
you think, so I always say00:01:56
if you allow two percent nature in Germany00:01:58
or one and a half Percent00:01:59
then of course it's all on00:02:01
that one percent, of course it's00:02:03
already poor. If I were to allow 30% later,00:02:06
you would have a00:02:07
situation like that. 35%, the weather doesn't matter, yes,00:02:10
but in these small dimensions where00:02:12
we actually still have natural areas00:02:14
Of course, every00:02:16
decimal place plays a role, yes, exactly, and the00:02:19
focus is everything we do here. We00:02:21
didn't start, of course,00:02:23
but we started with plants, yes, but we00:02:25
didn't start constantly00:02:26
counting and determining the number of plants,00:02:28
but what we did00:02:30
did The box already00:02:32
tells us today that there is always a connection00:02:34
between the plants that are there and00:02:35
the insects that are there, yes and that00:02:37
means we only count insects because for00:02:39
us insect species are indicators for the00:02:41
plants, the right plants, the right00:02:42
ones or the right insects00:02:43
and if I I have insects then00:02:45
for me it is also an indicator for or or00:02:48
we can also check that for00:02:49
small things for reptiles for00:02:51
sand lizards especially for the whole00:02:53
bird world yes we do00:02:55
n't actually have to count birds, we still do it00:02:57
and we still have relatively good00:03:00
populations yes00:03:03
well then I'll introduce you very briefly,00:03:05
yes who am I exactly00:03:08
Oliver Zwirner I live in Langenau near00:03:11
Ulm00:03:12
Wilhelm told me that beforehand I have to00:03:14
say I said not quite in the00:03:15
Swabian Alb but on the edge so that00:03:17
's roughly you know where that is00:03:19
The climate tends to be a bit00:03:20
harsher than here, yes, we00:03:23
are at 500 meters above sea level, but we00:03:26
had around00:03:28
12 degrees minus that year. I00:03:31
think I had my whole week like that two or three years ago00:03:32
around -20 21 degrees,00:03:34
you don't get that everywhere in Germany00:03:36
and that's why what grows there is of course00:03:38
a double00:03:41
challenge when planting, so00:03:42
if what I would say is00:03:44
drought tolerant and at the00:03:46
same time still frost resistant down to minus 2500:03:48
degrees or something like that, yes, I can't00:03:51
just say I'll just take it from00:03:52
the southeast or something like that, it does00:03:53
n't work at all, yes, but we also have00:03:56
enough plants here in00:03:58
Germany and here the00:03:59
dry drought is super great,00:04:01
so we can deal with it I'll say a00:04:02
snow, it doesn't matter whether it rains for six weeks00:04:03
or not, yes,00:04:06
exactly, profession, yes, I'm an00:04:08
industrial engineer, I work as a00:04:10
partner in a company, we00:04:11
do something completely different, we do00:04:13
software for quality management,00:04:16
risk management and patient safety,00:04:18
so mainly acute hospitals, so as I00:04:21
said, something completely different I also00:04:23
enjoy it, but what I enjoy a lot more00:04:24
is simply the topic of nature and00:04:27
species protection, that's the way it is, and I'm00:04:30
motivated by two things, of course00:04:31
what I see there, but00:04:33
mainly that you transport it00:04:35
because there are 17 million gardens in00:04:36
Germany The NABU once said that00:04:38
roughly corresponds to the area of all00:04:40
the nature reserves that we have, yes, and00:04:42
now if you think about what you00:04:43
can do yourself outside in the outdoor area00:04:45
where the farmers say, then00:04:47
the municipalities have nothing to say, it's up00:04:48
to the district office That00:04:50
means I can't do anything, but00:04:52
I can do something in my own garden00:04:53
and that's why I00:04:58
bought some land 12 years ago, a little bit, it's possible with a lot of00:05:00
luck and it's only possible with relationships,00:05:02
so at least with us, yes, that's the kind of00:05:04
thing they never came to the market00:05:06
normally so really with I know someone who00:05:08
knows a who knows a who00:05:09
was at school who is currently selling00:05:10
so that's how it works yes and00:05:13
learns about the economy over a beer is so00:05:16
yes00:05:17
there are those are those Now not hectares00:05:19
but the garden itself has 310000:05:21
square meters but next to it we have00:05:23
another area of 5000 that is00:05:25
specially cultivated00:05:27
there are still projects we will00:05:29
run a few more projects somewhere else okay00:05:31
then that's what I'm also interested in00:05:34
of course measurable results so I00:05:36
'm not one Friend of, we are creating a00:05:39
flowering island and are happy that the00:05:41
citizens of the city are happy about the00:05:42
flowers, but for me00:05:44
the question is how do I get the most00:05:46
out of the biodiversity00:05:47
and we saw it today too00:05:49
It's not just what's00:05:50
blooming up there, the00:05:53
paired ones Karsten said he has to be00:05:55
happy that people can00:05:57
distinguish between wild bees and honey bees,00:05:58
that's not really what matters to me, I'm00:06:01
happy about every bee we00:06:02
don't do, help me, I see00:06:03
a big one back there rubbish band but in the end00:06:06
um you also need quite a lot you00:06:09
also need bigger you just need a00:06:10
good mix of everything more because we00:06:13
have always counted a lot of the insects and00:06:15
have actually found a huge one00:06:17
and not in the list Help also not00:06:18
fly but some of them really do00:06:20
in the middle herb layer so00:06:22
no longer at the top of the flowers, yes exactly00:06:25
to myself, I'm married and have00:06:26
two children, eight and ten, who are currently00:06:28
knocking each other every day. Yes, that's00:06:32
sometimes a bit tiring because00:06:34
Henry skin on Frieda also00:06:36
hit me yes why or when yes yesterday00:06:40
okay that's how it is then we have two old00:06:43
cats then we are also a bit00:06:45
critical when it comes to cats in the00:06:46
natural garden but old cats who00:06:48
hunt poorly are at least worried00:06:49
that no young cats will00:06:51
invade the territory00:06:53
actually fewer young or00:06:54
no young cats there yes the power00:06:56
two dogs who usually don't just00:06:58
run around freely in the garden yes but if there are00:07:00
no cats00:07:02
then my wife in particular00:07:05
also takes care of a horse and we00:07:06
also have a mother i.e. a mule00:07:09
But it's not there, it's kilometers00:07:10
away,00:07:16
the way we've done it now is00:07:18
difficult because we have too many00:07:19
structures in it, so we actually have the00:07:21
topic of trees,00:07:23
bushes, what you have in between, we00:07:24
already have meadow areas that00:07:25
are larger then yes, but you would00:07:28
probably destroy too much,00:07:29
also yes, we have a relatively on00:07:32
the market concept, the weather we see that we are00:07:33
proceeding relatively gently, so I00:07:36
think actually we are actually doing00:07:37
we know that intervention is necessary00:07:39
but we are making sure that we only00:07:40
do the necessary interventions and00:07:42
try So there is no need to00:07:44
let activism arise in any way. You00:07:47
just know that it blooms more beautifully or00:07:48
blooms the second time or something like that. Let's00:07:50
see, the whole thing can00:07:51
happen sometimes, but I'll get to that later.00:07:53
Very important choice. Note,00:07:56
I am, I have it Seen, an00:07:58
industrial engineer is someone who00:08:00
can do everything but can't do anything properly. They say so,00:08:02
yes, but I'm not a biologist, yes, that00:08:04
means I taught myself everything,00:08:05
I read everything myself, it00:08:07
was important but it wasn't the00:08:09
reading that was actually the most important thing was the00:08:11
observation, yes just to see how00:08:13
things are connected and if I00:08:15
change something what happens00:08:16
that was much more important and of course00:08:19
you need a little bit of basic knowledge00:08:20
again, yes and as I said,00:08:23
everything doesn't have to be the truth in the00:08:24
end, it's just an00:08:25
experience report like we do Do it,00:08:26
yes, it can also be the case that you will find something00:08:29
that might suit you better,00:08:31
but on the other hand, a few00:08:33
experts have already been able to convince a lawyer of the00:08:35
results, yes,00:08:37
last year, for example, we came00:08:39
second in the weather from Bruder Verlag, which00:08:41
was Cornelia yes00:08:44
previously out of Germany is looking for00:08:45
the first place for existing00:08:47
last year and second year00:08:49
before that there is this insect challenge00:08:51
of 1000 gardens thousands of gardens thousands of00:08:53
attenta they have yes no the the00:08:56
insect challenge the insect counting00:08:58
we won exactly the00:09:01
award we have We also00:09:02
did it, but with 102 points you would have00:09:04
gotten Gold Standard, but we00:09:06
have two rubies in the garden that are00:09:07
considered invasive bags, so00:09:09
we got a flower oasis, yes00:09:12
you have to, but first I had a long00:09:13
discussion with Ulrike on the heath00:09:14
because the topic is 1492,00:09:17
what comes before it is considered to be so to speak, yes, and00:09:22
the rubies have been around for about 30000:09:24
years, the question is, I understand that00:09:26
evolution, yes, but in between00:09:29
you have to look at what is also what00:09:31
Rainer said today a00:09:32
bit More like that, you have to look a little bit at00:09:33
what you allow and what is nice00:09:35
and things are changing00:09:37
relatively00:09:39
quickly when it comes to the climate, yes, and the question is how much00:09:42
energy do I put into it and00:09:43
maybe put the energy somewhere else00:09:44
in order to simply get more natural gardens,00:09:46
so to lower the hurdle a little bit,00:09:48
between00:09:50
quantity and quality, I think it's00:09:51
quite a competition, exactly like00:09:55
that, then let's take a look at the garden,00:09:58
socially, so it's00:10:01
really that light green not like here on00:10:03
the monitor that's almost no and00:10:06
green almost looks a bit radioactive00:10:07
um I think it00:10:10
probably looks better online because you00:10:13
get the original picture online00:10:16
and that's exactly what it was as of September00:10:18
2013 and you can see that now That was00:10:21
n't even ten years ago, yes, that00:10:23
was before that until 2011, which means a corn field00:10:26
with everything that goes with it, totally00:10:28
over-fertilized, totally contaminated with pesticides,00:10:31
the performance in 2011/12 didn't even00:10:35
grow into a daisy, so clearly00:10:37
any bigger ones, no problem,00:10:40
dandelions do that nothing for but there00:10:43
weren't any daisies, so I'll get00:10:46
to that in a moment, they've already sown,00:10:47
exactly00:10:49
about that, they've sown yes and00:10:52
I'll show you that, you can see it's relatively00:10:54
long, the property is 150 m long, almost00:10:56
23 m wide00:10:58
and that's what it looks like now and for the fact that00:11:00
it's only been 10 years, I think00:11:02
if we compare all the pictures, it's00:11:04
huge what happened there. Actually,00:11:15
when you were planning, you thought about it straight away with the00:11:17
natural garden or00:11:19
did the natural garden think about it or00:11:21
the idea only came up00:11:24
with it later The question was whether we had00:11:27
already started thinking about the natural garden.00:11:29
I have to say,00:11:31
partly we didn't know00:11:33
what we have today. We've been in the00:11:35
natural garden association, I think for six00:11:36
years, so we knew00:11:39
a few things back then not there yet,00:11:41
but I'm still getting to it, yes, that's00:11:44
exactly, so that's roughly the point00:11:46
from which the photo was taken, this00:11:47
red dot, yes, that's the view to the00:11:50
north and if you00:11:53
look at it very close from behind,00:11:54
you'll see it So you can see that there is00:11:56
actually quite a bit of meadow there, yes00:11:59
I can see quite a lot of brown,00:12:01
old grass that is still there from the fire,00:12:04
yes, and the whole area has a00:12:08
slope from the back, yes, but the whole00:12:11
area is always two and a half00:12:12
meters away This is actually the case, which00:12:14
means that the back part00:12:16
is now a little bit moister and we have a00:12:17
little bit higher towards the front but00:12:19
a much dryer location. Soil is00:12:21
done there, but there is a difference between the00:12:25
moisture and the00:12:26
dryness Let's say at a00:12:28
distance of 100 meters that can00:12:30
be measured, yes, so that00:12:33
's quite good and can be felt, yes, but00:12:37
now we come to the creation, which00:12:38
comes straight to your question, yes, so I00:12:40
'll come back to the picture, we00:12:41
started it, yes and that everyone who00:12:44
might have a natural garden, so00:12:46
what we did right, we00:12:48
only used native wild plants,00:12:49
almost only we have00:12:52
people's big gardens like that, I00:12:53
then wanted a lot of them,00:13:01
yes now we almost only have00:13:03
wild plants in there that are native or00:13:04
even native to the area because behind00:13:06
all the hedges that there are now also more00:13:08
all around, whether more is enough, sometimes00:13:10
at the end these are sloes, these are00:13:12
hawthorn, this is hazelnut, this is privet00:13:15
and these are all plants as I00:13:18
said, even if it did00:13:20
n't rain for six weeks in the summer They're00:13:22
lush green, they're00:13:24
not interested at all, yes the roots are the same, they do00:13:26
n't have a problem at all, yes,00:13:29
we did something like that afterwards,00:13:30
yes, we put a pasture grass mixture in,00:13:33
yes, something like that, which is00:13:36
partly used in agriculture,00:13:38
we thought, okay, some basis had to be00:13:39
had I can't00:13:40
do it today I would do it so there was in00:13:43
the meantime I naturally00:13:44
cursed I thought there would have been a lot more00:13:45
options if I00:13:46
hadn't done that or less work afterwards00:13:49
I probably would have00:13:51
done some of it anyway But00:13:53
larger parts were emaciated and were actually00:13:55
simply pushed away and put limestone00:13:56
on top but now not quite like that again00:13:57
Markus Gassel where I say the00:13:59
whole property with the family and00:14:01
then 2000:14:03
40 tons come and have the00:14:05
rubble dumped in front of the hut00:14:07
I might have done that but00:14:09
not entirely, we have actually done it in a similar way in the meantime00:14:10
and some strips00:14:13
we have mowed a good 30% maybe 35%00:14:17
maybe even more with the00:14:19
lawn mower so actually in the00:14:21
lawn mower tractor like that and John Deere yes I00:14:23
think you have to do that because of that00:14:24
Neighbor who also looks at it, it has to be00:14:26
looked at properly, otherwise he'll get00:14:27
panicky so on the subject of the00:14:30
question, we were precise and if00:14:34
we had taken part in any awards ceremony at the time, that's00:14:35
probably why we would have00:14:36
gotten it00:14:44
Thinking back, I00:14:47
said, why did you do that and00:14:49
that's why it might make it00:14:50
easier for some people who then00:14:51
drop their robot lawnmower because of it, although00:14:52
I don't think I would00:14:53
have ever done that, yes, but I still00:14:55
understand that, yes, that's why I've00:14:58
already spoken to people who drive00:14:59
really the lawnmower robot around and00:15:01
then they go on vacation to Tuscany00:15:03
and say how wildly romantic the00:15:05
blackberry bushes and everything is blooming there and00:15:06
everything is wild and when they come home00:15:08
they throw the00:15:10
robot back into the garden because the neighbor Then00:15:11
she might think it's sloppy,00:15:14
but I think it's a social issue,00:15:18
even worse,00:15:20
even worse,00:15:23
exactly the same as what happened00:15:25
next, as I said, we'll be there soon00:15:27
anyway, but00:15:28
I still need a few transitions, um, that was the first thing where they00:15:31
said okay, I I have a lot of people who00:15:33
have natural gardens and they're starting to00:15:34
somehow not put any help in there,00:15:36
so it makes me a lot of trouble, it's also00:15:39
great, you can take a lot of photos with the00:15:40
children. I think00:15:42
it's really great for environmental education, but00:15:45
maybe 30% of the bees are them00:15:46
At all, they nest on the ground and that's00:15:48
in the meadow, yes, where is the meadow, yes,00:15:50
and we took the nice photos,00:15:53
so Easter,00:15:55
by the way, all of us, except for00:15:57
three photos of me, technology that we don't00:16:00
want,00:16:01
I'll show you in detail later or00:16:04
For example, you have a holey bee00:16:05
that is just sitting on the Rhine,00:16:07
which also has a nesting aid that00:16:10
accepts it wonderfully beautifully and yes,00:16:13
whatever is actually sitting on the nesting aid is00:16:14
such a gold wave. There is also00:16:17
a blue version, completely blue and00:16:19
green, and that parasitized by the00:16:22
wild bees at the beginning we were a00:16:23
bit annoyed and think I have to scare them00:16:24
away, which is of course total00:16:26
nonsense because I'm actually happy00:16:28
when they're there then I know I have a00:16:29
lot of wild animals there too, it's basically00:16:31
a good show00:16:33
so that was our first Pieces of dead wood,00:16:35
yes, that was a bit difficult to00:16:39
drive home in the roundabout.00:16:42
Coil springs, they00:16:44
really go into the knees like that.00:16:46
Yes, you have to do it very slowly00:16:50
km from us took00:16:53
a while, said yes, it should00:16:56
weigh 500 kilos, yes you can do it in the big00:16:58
tractor in the pallet fork and00:16:59
at first it couldn't get the00:17:01
one and a half tons up, yes, it was significantly00:17:04
heavier and ultimately we also have00:17:08
areas of dead wood, that's what you can see00:17:10
now in winter I don't know exactly00:17:11
when that is probably last year it was probably last year00:17:13
or 2100:17:15
in00:17:17
could have been January February it00:17:19
looks like the vegetation is there00:17:21
at the moment there is not at all or nothing at all00:17:23
leafy or nothing is leafy anymore yes00:17:24
but That's just one area so more with00:17:26
the garden is now 15 to 2000:17:27
tons of dead wood about the same00:17:29
size, yes it's possible but everything00:17:31
we can do with the 30000:17:32
square meters you can of course also do00:17:33
on my smaller scale has the00:17:36
advantage you don't need a Unimog Exactly about that00:17:38
and now let's slowly go00:17:41
into the meadow, at least not in the picture, it's00:17:43
a large00:17:46
broad-mouthed weevil, for example, that's an animal that00:17:48
nests in the meadow, no, that's my mistake, it00:17:52
develops completely in the00:17:54
dead wood and ultimately eats in the dead wood00:17:57
We never see the mushrooms that arise between the bark and the trunk00:17:59
in the meadow.00:18:01
The next animal is a00:18:04
rebuck. Yes, development takes place00:18:06
entirely in the dead wood. The00:18:09
fungi are dead wood, but the mushrooms00:18:13
are of the adult animals. They are00:18:15
then found in umbelliferous flowers Especially00:18:16
with us we have a wild carrot sitting00:18:18
around a stalky one and00:18:20
that means now we have animals that00:18:23
develop somewhere else entirely00:18:24
but they can be found somewhere in the00:18:26
meadow yes and that's if you do00:18:28
n't if you don't00:18:30
If you don't know that, you'll think that's00:18:32
great, you know it immediately in the00:18:34
deadwood habitat.00:18:38
Yes, maybe everyone knows the beam Schröder00:18:39
looks like a female00:18:43
of the stag beetle is relatively00:18:44
large and the beam worm00:18:48
develops in the same way in the dead wood, yes, but You can see00:18:50
in the picture we didn't put it there00:18:53
by hand,00:18:54
but it feeds in the meadow,00:18:59
the blue carpenter bee here on the00:19:00
fence looking into the fence vetch is00:19:02
also in the hem here, so on the edge of the meadow,00:19:05
um lives largely in The meadow00:19:09
not only flies00:19:10
to trees, but the blood and the00:19:14
blue wood bees develop, they need to be00:19:16
completely in the00:19:18
dead wood, you can't00:19:21
make any help with 10 12 mm holes if they00:19:24
are drilled very cleanly, so I00:19:25
already have some of those too It's been assumed00:19:26
that's right, there's a00:19:28
lot of kilos of life in there, no, that's00:19:30
right, it looks different than that of00:19:32
the beautiful holes of the bee, of the00:19:34
no idea, of five six seven00:19:35
millimeters or something like that00:19:40
We also00:19:42
have no problem with it, we00:19:43
already had the topic in the lectures, zero00:19:45
problems, we have no idea 20 3000:19:47
degree thistles spread over the entire00:19:49
area for ages, which if00:19:51
I were more I would say the00:19:53
root pressure from the other plants is00:19:54
enough simply because they don't00:19:55
spread extremely I don't take them00:19:57
out most of the time so I'll say a lot of them00:20:01
I would say as a single plant yes where00:20:04
you where you document insects yes there is00:20:07
the wild carrot right at the front but00:20:10
thistle so I think there's a00:20:12
lot to it yes that's why Let's leave00:20:13
it standing so it does00:20:15
n't bite when passing by or anything like that, it does00:20:17
n't snap00:20:20
right here and so on and that gave us the freedom to ask the00:20:22
question if it's just the topic, we take a look at it and00:20:24
then we see a lot of what00:20:25
actually arises from death00:20:26
one later in the meadow yes and00:20:28
the title was the one here that from the00:20:30
from the nature garden days yes the00:20:32
federal center life is raging that's why00:20:34
I just wanted to ask we00:20:36
wanted to take a look somewhere now where00:20:38
lives where where is it00:20:40
really raging now that Life, yes, and we have a00:20:42
lot of biotope elements, that's00:20:44
not all of them, yes,00:20:45
dead wood, we have a dry stone wall in it00:20:48
at the top right, buy a rich one, we have00:20:50
a few small ponds, we don't have any00:20:52
help, we have edges, we have that's00:20:55
basically an emaciated strip there It's00:20:57
actually just gravel on it, it would be00:20:59
Markus Gastel in principle and then00:21:02
of course we did the same as they did00:21:05
and we did the following:00:21:10
we won, we took part00:21:12
in the insect challenge last year,00:21:13
namely we00:21:15
already had thousands of photos anyway and we would00:21:17
probably have them retroactively The last one was00:21:18
given in 2021, you00:21:21
could have also taken part or in the years00:21:22
before, perhaps on the sidelines when you00:21:26
go out afterwards. I have a00:21:27
card at the back and a sticker with www Naturgarten00:21:29
langenau.de on it, which means whoever00:21:32
wants to look at pictures like this, we00:21:34
have a lot of them of them on the website,00:21:35
yes, and the website also came about from the fact00:21:37
that we simply00:21:38
thought about how I can sort the pictures00:21:40
somewhere so that I00:21:42
come, then you make them public, yes,00:21:43
we just had quite a few and there00:21:45
are more and more and we We00:21:47
ended up taking part in the challenge.00:21:48
That's my wife in the back00:21:50
and that in the foreground is my00:21:52
father-in-law, Willi. He's00:21:55
actually a pretty professional00:21:57
macro photographer00:22:03
He00:22:06
actually took nice photos for us,00:22:07
most of them are of us because00:22:09
we are there, even when he00:22:10
comes, it's usually the00:22:11
student who takes them, yes, and at the00:22:14
insect challenge last year there00:22:16
were three target periods, yes the ones in00:22:18
We missed the first one, I did00:22:19
n't even know that this existed.00:22:21
The second time I thought, let's do it,00:22:22
and then there were 106 and00:22:26
185 species, so the first00:22:29
target period was actually from00:22:31
June to mid-July, so six weeks,00:22:35
yes and Then another eight weeks from mid-00:22:38
July to mid-September, exactly, and that00:22:43
was really time-consuming, so00:22:45
I think it took us 100 hours to00:22:47
figure it out, but a total of 25100:22:50
species of insects,00:22:52
counting individuals, but the different species were00:22:53
all documented with pictures and that was00:22:57
for the one who is wondering how do you do that,00:22:59
how do you get the time because I00:23:01
still have a company with 50 people, yes,00:23:02
I have no idea yet, I00:23:03
just have all sorts of other hobbies, yes,00:23:06
how do you get that in? So we're sitting00:23:08
in the summer or right now The times00:23:10
are nice, the weather is now00:23:11
my wife and I have to go outside on a00:23:13
regular basis with a little wine00:23:15
or a beer,00:23:16
and we just thought00:23:18
we'd just take the camera with us and00:23:20
the beer and the wine and go down into00:23:23
the meadow or where the insects00:23:25
are, yes, and the time just00:23:28
flies, the only thing is that the garden is00:23:30
very long, the paths are so when00:23:31
you have to walk another 100 meters or 15000:23:33
from the very back, yes and that00:23:34
to get the next beer out of the fridge, to make00:23:36
a phone call, yes, it's warm, yes, so00:23:40
you have to, yes, that's it, that's it,00:23:43
then you'll really get00:23:44
the steps together, so the00:23:46
market would have a pedometer then in the00:23:47
evening, I have no idea yet I00:23:49
walked an extra six seven kilometers, yes,00:23:50
that's pretty good.00:23:55
So distinguishing between the species at the00:23:56
beginning we actually have it00:23:59
wild with all sorts of things. So there are00:24:00
species that you know, it's relatively00:24:02
easy then there are species so there are00:24:06
wasp-flop West that Are you going crazy?00:24:07
Yes,00:24:08
at the beginning we actually have00:24:10
an insect guide from the BV, it's00:24:12
a catfish, one of its feet is flat when it00:24:15
falls on it. We took it from the beginning.00:24:17
We now use it00:24:18
mainly as a backup00:24:21
Currently doing it with um00:24:27
obsidentifi exactly is an app that00:24:28
works but you can't rely on it 100%00:24:30
yes, it works via the00:24:33
app, it works quite well, you00:24:34
actually get 80 percent, you00:24:36
definitely get it very cleanly, but the other 2000:24:38
percent you have to You actually00:24:40
have to hold everything next to each other so that00:24:41
you can see the result from the app then look00:24:42
on the internet, yes there is00:24:44
a nature walk that works from00:24:46
Switzerland there are a few good photos00:24:47
or you00:24:49
actually look in the book there you are00:24:51
So, as I said,00:24:53
some species of wasps need everything. Some00:24:55
species of wasps00:24:56
despair. Yes,00:25:00
I actually take the photo.00:25:02
Most of the time, we have several photos. So,00:25:04
for example, no, I'll show00:25:05
you that later on the subject of determination. That's00:25:07
exactly what it looks like later00:25:09
So that was00:25:10
the first in the counting period and is the00:25:13
second, each with a picture and00:25:16
in principle tgta of the project00:25:18
has its own00:25:19
sustainability agency that the00:25:22
doctor Heinrich Schneider is00:25:24
happy that he is finally00:25:25
getting a job It00:25:27
also took a relatively long time00:25:29
for the evaluation and in00:25:32
the end we00:25:34
actually won the insect challenge.00:25:35
We were happy because actually00:25:37
the prizes I don't need them but it00:25:39
's nice to use in communication00:25:40
again yes we might do it again then00:25:42
Newspaper articles out there00:25:43
again you have a few people who00:25:44
read something about it and think so idea of00:25:46
my garden yes exactly and now00:25:49
we have done the following no I'm going00:25:50
back again don't you want to give it all away,00:25:52
it's the question when we actually00:25:55
asked ourselves the question how important is00:25:56
the meadow in general and I have to00:25:58
understand how much before I think about00:25:59
how to care for it somehow yes, so the00:26:02
idea was we'll take a look at all of these00:26:04
pictures that have been listed there00:26:05
completely and see where the00:26:08
pictures were taken in the Meadow or00:26:10
on the dead wood, yes, and that was00:26:12
actually interesting, so when00:26:14
the day and night falls, well, clearly00:26:16
65% observed a meadow, there were00:26:19
a few there who00:26:21
actually observed some bushes00:26:22
somewhere in the woods, but,00:26:25
um, drink Bees and vests 44 in front of00:26:27
Hammer00:26:29
seen a total of different species and00:26:31
41 were photographed in the meadow of the00:26:34
beetles 40 of 32 e.g. large broad-leaved00:26:38
dead wood yes um with the flies except for00:26:42
one I don't know now probably in00:26:44
the apartment00:26:46
when are cicadas a single these00:26:49
are these the ground bugs that you00:26:50
may also know if everyone who00:26:51
stores firewood somewhere at home00:26:52
then at some point the ground bugs these00:26:53
little beetles in there yes all the others were00:26:57
represented in the meadow with the dragonflies there were00:27:00
a few00:27:01
grasshoppers of course all of them00:27:04
spiders 10 out of 13 and other miscellaneous00:27:07
They were harvestmen, they don't belong to00:27:08
the spiders and00:27:10
I didn't want to count them among the crayfish either, so00:27:12
we made a category "Other"00:27:13
and if I combine them now00:27:15
it comes00:27:16
out really interesting. Yes, that means we00:27:18
have a natural garden and have a meadow00:27:20
as an element We have a lot of00:27:21
other elements, yes, that00:27:23
means we have dead wood, more00:27:25
water-moist biotope, we have dry,00:27:28
lean locations, so to speak, very00:27:31
sunny, all sorts of things, so a lot of00:27:34
diversity, but I see that 90% of the00:27:38
species that we found throughout the garden00:27:39
and we just sat in a meadow with00:27:41
a beer but everywhere00:27:42
yes but a meadow 90% of the species00:27:44
photographed00:27:45
yes and it's really crazy00:27:47
actually and I didn't00:27:48
expect that I thought about three quarters I00:27:50
knew that there that that that Because a lot00:27:51
comes together, but00:27:53
I didn't expect the result, yes, and now00:27:56
I have to look at what the00:27:58
meadow actually offers, yes, that's not a00:28:01
scientific version, yes, that's an00:28:03
attempt to put together00:28:04
what the meadow offers the animals and I've00:28:06
actually made a very rough distinction00:28:07
between three things that is development,00:28:10
reproduction then I have00:28:12
hidden the topic of protection, so also00:28:15
habitat and then of course where is there00:28:17
food and up there, for example, is the00:28:19
eyes thigh bees all the way up and00:28:21
down completely normal meadow grass hops yes of00:28:23
course they have everything find00:28:26
everything in the meadow, development, protection,00:28:27
food, everything that doesn't leave the meadow00:28:29
at all, but then further down we have, for00:28:31
example, the black blue00:28:33
carpenter bee00:28:34
that develops in the dead wood, finds00:28:36
food both in trees and00:28:40
in the meadow and sometimes hides it in00:28:42
a meadow Yes, then it's completely different with the00:28:47
dragonflies, they have the development on the far00:28:50
right in the water, food protection, so00:28:52
outlave everything in the water as an adult00:28:55
animal finds protective food again in principle00:28:57
all00:29:00
other functions in the meadow yes takes00:29:03
place in the meadow and the00:29:06
only thing is that mating takes place then00:29:07
partly still in the meadow city but00:29:09
well they put them back in the water yes00:29:11
and with the sand lizard that's00:29:13
actually the case, it finds protection in the00:29:14
woods in the dead wood anywhere where it00:29:16
can hide where it is safe from00:29:18
crows from birds of prey00:29:22
from magpies from cats and so on further yes00:29:24
but development that means they lay00:29:28
their eggs in loose soil that means that00:29:29
sometimes you have a meadow yes00:29:32
protection hunt food in the meadow and00:29:35
hide it as I said of course00:29:37
but hunt no less in00:29:39
dead wood than in a meadow like in the meadow yes I do00:29:42
Show you later when the meadow00:29:43
has been standing for a long time over the year and it00:29:45
just falls around the grass and underneath it00:29:46
the arms are chasing the ants no00:29:48
not the ants are hunting the00:29:51
sand lizards yes and00:29:54
we have something about the ants later00:29:57
and now we we have a00:29:59
lot of pictures now we will have three slides00:30:00
where00:30:02
I would like to say a little bit about these three topics so the topic of00:30:04
protection is clear. Protection means protection from00:30:06
predators, so with the sand lizard00:30:09
it is so that in the meadow where00:30:11
altkraft stands is of course00:30:13
The whole thing can't be made invisible in a rented00:30:14
meadow, so it does00:30:17
n't overcome any paths in the garden either, that is, when it00:30:19
has to get from A to B when I come from00:30:20
death as an area, let's say00:30:21
irratmates, in the in the00:30:30
somehow in some other place If you00:30:31
want to have an area somewhere then if00:30:34
you want to get there then00:30:36
of course you have the problem that it will be00:30:38
gone immediately yes so if it's an open00:30:40
area those are birds so with00:30:41
us magpies go in the evening that makes that00:30:45
that doesn't work well for long yes right00:30:46
buy because the word that just00:30:47
came to mind yes travel agent also00:30:50
some lizards in there and the00:30:52
flightless young birds we don't have the 3000:30:55
40 help with us yes for what00:30:57
at least have a relatively large00:30:59
population when the boys are on the00:31:02
ground yes that's not happy if You00:31:03
can hide them somewhere if you00:31:05
have an open area then every00:31:06
cat can see them at a distance of 100 meters. They are00:31:09
extremely at risk. Yes, that's exactly what a00:31:11
good microclimate is, which means you have00:31:13
a fairly balanced temperature.00:31:15
We even measured it last year00:31:17
where we00:31:19
mowed in the year before and where there was00:31:22
no mowing before that00:31:24
and in a completely unprofessional scientific way00:31:26
with a wood moisture measuring device, it00:31:28
only goes into the ground a centimeter,00:31:30
so the depth would still have to be measured,00:31:31
yes, but we had twice the value in00:31:33
the meadow where the seam was longer It was00:31:35
n't, that is, it actually does00:31:37
store moisture better00:31:39
and of course it doesn't overheat as much.00:31:42
You can see that relatively easily, like00:31:44
if you have a short-cut lawn it's00:31:45
just brown00:31:47
then in the winter you of course have the00:31:48
old grass as a shelter for all00:31:50
sorts of beetles especially on beetles that00:31:52
overwinter there00:31:54
then you have the topic of food,00:31:56
so in principle we have food for00:31:58
different animals if I leave something out,00:32:00
of course00:32:02
we fly butterflies and of course00:32:05
first of all the pollen and nectar on the00:32:08
flowers that are left standing but what00:32:10
is much more important to me personally Well, I00:32:12
already have a lot of flowers in my garden, but it's00:32:14
not optimized for flowering. My garden00:32:17
is, I don't see it at all,00:32:19
because it's not just the plants that are important00:32:23
and there are a lot of animals and00:32:24
we heard that today at the box. Yes,00:32:26
they aren't up there but00:32:29
a little deeper in the couch layer00:32:30
and it's called from the00:32:32
plants yes and planting material from the00:32:34
juices that's why the lecture with the00:32:35
habibiors before yes and or he lets00:32:39
himself be predatory yes then and that's00:32:42
ultimately where I have to say00:32:43
Natural gardens, of course, always have to00:32:46
maintain a certain balance, yes, because when00:32:48
you take a tour it should00:32:50
have a certain aesthetic so that you00:32:51
can spread this idea. Yes,00:32:53
if you let everything grow wild,00:32:55
the variety wouldn't be as00:32:57
good, but of course you would have it also a00:32:59
problem to communicate that well so00:33:01
you need you have to see that you00:33:04
bring in a bit of aesthetics in the way people understand aesthetics yes Düsseldorf but for me00:33:07
Naturgarten is still not a federal garden show yes we don't need00:33:10
it I don't need everything there00:33:12
blooms at any time, there are also many,00:33:14
many things that bloom, grasses that bloom,00:33:15
some of which you can't00:33:18
really see here and then you have a lot of birds00:33:19
that benefit from the seed heads in winter,00:33:22
goldfinches and things like that and00:33:26
many of them don't even see them Have an umbrella00:33:27
Spiders spiders that you have in the grass,00:33:30
if the grass is gone, where should you fasten your webs?00:33:33
They can't00:33:35
lay there horizontally like a carpet on the ground and wait until something00:33:37
comes in and then snaps, now00:33:38
I have you, it works That's not the case00:33:40
and that's why these stems are00:33:42
actually very important so that spiders00:33:45
can attach their webs and it will tell00:33:48
you that, yes in the winter there is00:33:49
nothing on the move, that's not true at all,00:33:51
yes, I saw spiders outside until January00:33:53
and I saw a lot of00:33:55
mayflies and things like that00:33:56
flying around Let's see each other a little bit00:33:57
when it was six seven degrees, especially in00:33:58
January, after the New Year00:34:00
we had it really warm, yes, so yes,00:34:03
the whole year can ultimately00:34:05
take place,00:34:07
exactly then the topic of development is clear,00:34:10
eggs, caterpillars, and insects, spiders, which00:34:14
we completely stop there their00:34:15
development and clearly grasshoppers00:34:18
cicadas all sorts of things we see still00:34:20
there will be a few examples after that yes00:34:21
and00:34:23
ultimately what is important many00:34:26
think so meal periods of no00:34:28
longer once in the late earlier and once00:34:30
in the autumn yes00:34:31
these development periods are00:34:33
often over the year yes they find then instead of00:34:37
over the winter, I'll show you00:34:39
a few examples later and everything that00:34:41
I basically heard in March, I00:34:43
think I heard it yesterday,00:34:45
not that kind of thing in March it's00:34:47
all gone, everything that's in the stems is00:34:49
the eggs Just go away, yes, because00:34:55
most of the animals need to hatch by about mid-May, then00:34:57
I'll say it's a bit more relaxed, yes,00:34:59
write it down again exactly. For example,00:35:01
I'll show you later that they overwinter00:35:03
as pupae in the old grass.00:35:05
There are butterfly species00:35:07
only in inappropriate if there if there's so much00:35:12
It's about 20 30 cm00:35:16
and yes, what you forget is that there are many00:35:18
plant species that could of course00:35:19
only reproduce if they can sow through the seeds,00:35:21
yes and when I say00:35:23
I would like to have such a natural00:35:24
vaccination again, yes through seeds00:35:26
through sowing in the natural garden then It would be00:35:29
nice that maybe the plants00:35:30
that aren't so common,00:35:32
but maybe I want to encourage them a little bit,00:35:33
then you should have a chance to be able to make00:35:34
exceptions if I do00:35:36
the numbers, yes, flour, then00:35:38
not much happens, yes,00:35:39
and then one of the most unfavorable things At00:35:41
exactly the right time and the00:35:44
meadow residents and also the00:35:46
visitors come there, there is exactly that, I did00:35:50
n't want to withhold it, it's a00:35:52
green half-value even if it00:35:53
looks completely yellow, yes there is a yellow00:35:58
variant, there are yellow variations, that00:35:59
's in Basically a pigmentation defect like in00:36:02
a human being the albinos00:36:04
and00:36:06
I once had this with a biologist00:36:09
because the return trip he said is00:36:11
like winning the lottery, it is00:36:13
extremely rare in Germany, almost00:36:15
never, he has never seen it himself00:36:16
where I am I've heard it three times myself in the00:36:18
previous reading, he could00:36:21
introduce it here, it's not so well done, yes,00:36:22
if it's juice that's green, but00:36:24
in southern countries like in southern Italy,00:36:27
Greece, this mutation seems to00:36:29
happen a little more often and one00:36:30
suspects that says okay, they have00:36:32
better life chances than the00:36:33
green ones because if the landscape00:36:35
is completely brown then it's better for me to share myself with brown ones00:36:36
than with green ones, yes00:36:39
exactly and what he may have00:36:42
heard in the box, I thought to myself that00:36:45
it was purely a herbivore I00:36:46
thought all the grasshoppers only eat00:36:47
green stuff, of course that's not true,00:36:49
so this one is actually on the00:36:52
blackberries, it's on the edge of the meadow, yes one00:36:54
eats blackberries, they eat all sorts of things,00:36:56
yes, I think they00:36:58
prefer to eat aphids, even so we00:37:00
have a lot of aphids and we find them00:37:01
a half time sits there yes, you're00:37:03
happy, you're happy, yes, you00:37:05
need more, I don't think you'll do exactly that,00:37:08
your trunk line00:37:10
lives in a similar way, yes, and uh, those are these grasshoppers that00:37:15
lay their eggs relatively far00:37:17
down in the gray00:37:19
either in the stem, depending on the situation what00:37:20
they are equipped for and how they are equipped with the00:37:22
laying tool or with the Lego drill00:37:24
or on the stem yes of course if00:37:26
I put it deep down then it's gone00:37:27
then I don't have any population00:37:30
there anymore and00:37:34
then just normal meadow grasshoppers00:37:36
why am I showing you that00:37:38
Everyone has probably seen it before,00:37:39
it doesn't feel like it's anything special,00:37:41
it comes in all sorts of different00:37:42
color variants, and I'm always00:37:44
happy about it. Yay, we00:37:45
have a new species, namely a00:37:47
different color variant of the00:37:48
meadow grasshopper or of a00:37:50
common grasshopper and the00:37:52
meadow grasshopper There is a chain00:37:55
that would like to show you00:37:56
a simple example of dependencies, so there must be00:37:59
a lot of meadow grasshoppers and the00:38:01
meadow should be relatively natural and00:38:02
undisturbed. At some point there will be00:38:05
wasp spiders because00:38:09
we have already seen the lovely grasshoppers in the00:38:10
lecture today and the wasp spiders There was00:38:12
a study in Switzerland about this that00:38:14
they look like pointer insects because they00:38:16
are very sensitive when I have a00:38:17
meadow but at an inopportune time they00:38:19
disturb the meadow more or generally in a different way. Yes,00:38:23
when the tractor has finished its passage00:38:24
then there are no more wasp spiders.00:38:26
Yes, that's why they say Most of the time it has the00:38:29
task of a pointer and the00:38:32
wasp spider itself00:38:35
is just thinking about it so September00:38:38
when is it certainly00:38:40
a little different here in Germany it00:38:41
has to be a00:38:43
little colder in the south but I think so yes00:38:45
September mid-September I would00:38:46
say yes00:38:48
make these cocoons concerns the eggs00:38:50
in yes the mother spider guards this00:38:54
coupon then dies sometime at the beginning of00:38:56
October in the middle of October something like that depending on the00:38:58
weather and before00:39:01
winter the little spiders develop there, they00:39:02
are very small spiders in there so00:39:05
in you can see that here when we00:39:08
That would now make it bigger, it would00:39:10
perhaps be a height of00:39:12
definitely over 1/2 meter 60 70 cm depending on the00:39:15
height of your meadow, that's00:39:16
really up in the couch layer,00:39:18
yes that's pretty high and that means00:39:20
it's relatively quick broken something like that, that's why00:39:22
someone tramples on it,00:39:24
it's gone if it's mine, it's gone anyway,00:39:26
that means now a market has been made,00:39:28
wasp spiders are done for the next year,00:39:30
they only have one population, that00:39:32
's not like when I wrote 20, I00:39:33
have two populations a year only00:39:35
one if I have it, it just does00:39:37
n't go away completely, yes, and that's why00:39:41
it of course has an influence on00:39:42
how we mow, that's00:39:45
exactly how it goes now,00:39:46
now I have wasp spiders, then there are00:39:48
also things like hornets, for example,00:39:50
so we have I saw today00:39:52
in the lecture that I have00:39:54
never seen horses today, that a00:39:55
wasp spider grabs a half-time, I'm always scared00:39:57
to hell. Horses,00:39:58
so we're right, the really00:40:01
big wasps are playing there, and00:40:03
we just did it00:40:06
in the garden00:40:08
also one with the beer or with the00:40:10
crying yes then at some point we saw00:40:11
there is an empty web from the00:40:14
wasp spider and there are lots of00:40:18
its legs scattered around in the web only the00:40:19
two men are gone the web is00:40:22
intact00:40:23
but you are wondering where to go now00:40:25
have to call somehow criminal case she is egg00:40:28
she is long exactly yes and00:40:30
then we00:40:32
thought about a bird it could be otherwise it00:40:34
wouldn't be broken if I me00:40:37
one day yes and then the next day00:40:39
the same round but first the picture00:40:42
was taken yes that's what we mean We've00:40:43
seen a horny fly00:40:49
flying straight at a wasp fly from behind, yes it grabbed it, it bit off00:40:52
all the legs, it grabs itself then00:40:54
the brisket separates then the00:40:56
brisket from the Hinterleitner flies away with00:40:58
the breast fillet,00:40:59
yes we've also seen it the other way round00:41:02
Wasp spider00:41:03
was able to save the same situation Hornet00:41:06
flies at Wasp spider can00:41:07
easily be dropped on the ground and00:41:08
quickly hides at the bottom of the litter and there00:41:12
was still a wrapped up00:41:14
wrapped up grasshopper00:41:16
in there which the hornet then00:41:17
took with it00:41:24
exactly so it was a very very very00:41:27
cool picture and then here, for example,00:41:29
in the meadow there is also a leg of bees00:41:31
that are also completely in the meadow00:41:33
actually also developing in the soil00:41:34
in the meadow yes and these are the00:41:37
males in the in the later00:41:41
summer in July something like that that are00:41:44
actually around In the evenings,00:41:48
bite hard on the grasses and then00:41:49
spend the night. Yes, that's the00:41:51
overnight stay and00:41:52
people have this typical00:41:55
yellow mask of it and when you00:42:00
talk about lady's thigh bees you can00:42:02
also add the animal - it's00:42:04
an ornamental bee that00:42:07
parasitizes With the eye shank bees,00:42:09
yes, it's basically in cuckoos, they00:42:11
basically lay areas00:42:13
that are then in the brood tubes in the ground then00:42:16
the foreign brood then or00:42:17
the brood from the00:42:18
eye shanks is then eaten up, yes and00:42:20
then also the food packets or00:42:22
hatch themselves but as I said, such00:42:25
Parasites are actually always nice to00:42:27
find because if there are a lot of them00:42:29
then there are a lot more of the00:42:31
others, so in the case of the00:42:32
eyes thigh bees and that I think00:42:34
it's a really great thing00:42:37
so redbacks00:42:40
probably don't know if they have that00:42:42
I've already seen when he opens his wings00:42:43
he's bright red, yes it's00:42:46
a type of bug that's completely00:42:48
native to the meadow so it was00:42:51
on my finger then they became friends a00:42:53
bit00:42:54
so he was quite relaxed00:42:56
somehow he took good photos00:42:57
let and exactly but if I let you understand, you can00:43:00
see there, for example,00:43:02
outside of the insects, for example,00:43:04
the goldfinch, which is now here at the00:43:06
chicory, which is also in the border, so it00:43:10
grows on the edge of the meadow without end, it was00:43:13
quite funny, it's always when you think about it00:43:15
stop blooming then00:43:16
a flower comes again you know that's totally00:43:18
crazy totally crazy yes it00:43:21
somehow never finishes blooming yes00:43:23
exactly so they come to us completely yes00:43:26
or even one on the evening primroses00:43:28
where there are seeds or we leave a lot00:43:31
standing there come back later,00:43:32
exactly swallowtail caterpillars are00:43:35
a little different than what, for example, with the00:43:37
wasp spiders, they have two00:43:40
speculations a year, that is, whether there00:43:41
are two populations can be00:43:42
argued about. In any case, they00:43:44
have caterpillars that you can now find00:43:47
in July, which pupate00:43:49
are in the same year and00:43:51
hatch like that, but if you00:43:53
find a caterpillar in August00:43:55
then the caterpillar will no longer be able00:43:57
to make it, yes, and is then basically the00:43:59
second population and then they overwinter,00:44:01
which means they pupate and00:44:03
develop into a butterfly00:44:05
before winter and remain old00:44:07
butterfly in which it's almost like a00:44:09
hibernation yes with well equipped with frost protection00:44:12
they stay in the pupa00:44:14
and then come out in May they come00:44:17
out00:44:18
a question from Jeanette from the chat00:44:21
thank you for your areas and00:44:23
independent thoughts and shared00:44:25
experiences an unmown one The meadow00:44:28
then develops into a hem00:44:29
Question mark or do you change the00:44:31
area that you don't mow yes for yes a00:44:34
meadow should ideally00:44:36
be connected to hems exactly very simple00:44:39
answer that will come later yes00:44:43
in detail00:44:45
exactly00:44:46
we still have time so that's exactly what it means00:44:49
next May it develops yes00:44:51
and the swallowtail looks like this out00:44:53
of about 50 eggs they say00:44:54
about two swallowtails get through at all00:44:56
yes and then we have what we00:44:58
do is if we see anything else like that there00:44:59
is no evidence some people00:45:01
maybe know these these these boxes where00:45:03
you basically cut off the wild carrot and00:45:05
put it in the vase and put the00:45:06
caterpillars in there. We did it the other way around.00:45:08
I thought we would just build00:45:10
a larger box with the bottom open and00:45:11
put the whole carrot on it, yes00:45:12
and uh, we don't have anything completely closed here00:45:16
But you can see a section of it that is00:45:18
essentially stretched with insect screens,00:45:20
but even here the problem00:45:23
is if you take any more shots, we00:45:26
had three caterpillars, two of them00:45:28
cleaned themselves up and then at00:45:30
some point we turned brown and00:45:32
then at some point we had a trip then00:45:34
had it in there and these are typically00:45:36
the best ways to do this, in this00:45:37
case it was caterpillars flying, small00:45:39
caterpillars flying that00:45:41
were basically already infected beforehand00:45:46
and we actually had to have00:45:48
observed this closely in the enclosure in00:45:50
there These two birds are also time-00:45:52
shifted, so twice one and then00:45:53
you just have to throw them out, yes, they are00:45:56
still there, the picture is now00:45:58
from January, they still look the same,00:45:59
yes, and it will be fun when the00:46:03
children watch when they hatch in May00:46:04
I would have liked to have had a few00:46:06
more but you think they00:46:09
find them00:46:12
or fit or something like that00:46:16
exactly then checkerboard I00:46:18
have the same topic before,00:46:20
write again tail00:46:22
we have with us you can see there are three on it00:46:25
that are a little better to photograph in the evening00:46:27
When it gets a little too00:46:28
cold, they're pretty00:46:29
active too, but I actually had00:46:33
25 or 30 simultaneous sightings at a time in the story00:46:42
our method that is the00:46:44
water also the hour of the winter wings00:46:46
what you there where and LBV what they do00:46:48
exactly the same otherwise you have the case00:46:49
that always flies around you and say00:46:51
I saw ten chessboard dude00:46:52
yes of course that's not the case but back00:46:54
then I've already had a lot of them,00:46:56
especially in the past year. I'm00:46:58
excited to see what this year looks like. The00:47:00
golden 800:47:03
is also found00:47:07
completely in the meadow, all of the city's00:47:09
complete development, there's00:47:11
food there, everything in 2017, butterfly of the00:47:14
year, a story similar to that of00:47:16
writing, tail, yes and then00:47:20
I said that again before with the00:47:22
topic of determination, where did the question come from again?00:47:24
There was the topic of00:47:26
determination and determination, how do00:47:29
we do it? We sometimes do00:47:31
some kind of crap,00:47:33
we always thought that was a he does00:47:36
n't have this picture with him a few other00:47:37
pictures with a top view that is very00:47:39
clear is a six spots 100%00:47:41
so then at some point we will have that you ca00:47:44
n't see it optimally in the picture00:47:45
but if you look at the lower wing00:47:48
and can see the abdominal band you00:47:53
could see it00:47:57
here yes yes00:48:01
later found out but that's how it is when00:48:04
you definitely do something like that yes but you always go00:48:06
over it from time to time you also00:48:07
criticize it yourself sometimes yes are you new00:48:11
insights where you are not incredibly00:48:12
happy yes that's exactly the picture it is00:48:15
of my father-in-law for example that00:48:16
is I can't get it quite as pretty,00:48:17
yes, I'm trying00:48:19
to keep it documentary-like,00:48:21
aesthetic standards, yes, that's00:48:24
fine, he can do it quite well,00:48:25
yes, exactly then00:48:32
a meadow also has anthills in it and00:48:33
the anthills are about00:48:34
as high here oh so about yes and00:48:38
anthills in are yes00:48:40
small ones are created from it, very loose soil yes00:48:43
and um I'll leave it to you too yes so the00:48:46
way I like it I can do it00:48:50
Let it stand, no problem, I do00:48:51
n't have one, we used to use larger machines,00:48:52
now we don't,00:48:54
and00:48:56
what lives in there, for example, and what if there's00:48:59
a relationship to it? There's an00:49:00
ant beetle. Yes,00:49:03
it looks like it's a bit00:49:04
longer when it's like a00:49:06
stretch ladybug again and the ants say00:49:09
I have some beetles so we see00:49:11
this all over the summer00:49:13
actually00:49:14
they mate near00:49:18
anthills00:49:20
lay their eggs there00:49:23
nearby and the eggs are00:49:24
basically camouflaged with their code beforehand so00:49:26
one of those Guaranteed odorous shampoo, yes, that00:49:29
means the ants find the eggs, they think00:49:32
it's great, we put them in our burrow,00:49:34
yes, and then they eat the food00:49:36
away from the ants, except for the glasses, yes,00:49:39
and when they're done and Team Tank has00:49:41
hardened, they00:49:43
come out alive again without being eaten by the ants00:49:44
then take the legs00:49:45
in your hand and see that they00:49:46
gain as much land as possible yes and leave them in an00:49:49
ant hole again I would00:49:50
flatten the ants on the completely flat00:49:52
yes it would probably00:49:54
emerge again next year00:49:55
anyway it would For part of the year there is00:49:58
no opportunity for him to00:49:59
get back in there and they would00:50:00
n't find each other at all, yes, that's00:50:02
also a relationship, yes, the00:50:04
most active, there are also00:50:05
blue people who do the same thing, no,00:50:07
and that seems interesting00:50:09
that an animal like that00:50:10
ultimately00:50:14
has to go to a meadow or to a master again. It's a completely different00:50:18
picture. Unfortunately, I didn't have a picture of the00:50:21
green woodpecker in the meadow, he loves ants, so we only took the00:50:24
picture at the anthill00:50:26
in00:50:27
January I think00:50:29
[music] was00:50:31
winter birds or I don't think it was00:50:33
on Tim at the 10th hour but came00:50:35
the day before, typically00:50:38
exactly so there is a green woodpecker and the00:50:40
green woodpecker, which of course also lives a00:50:41
lot of the meadow. There are ants in it00:50:43
from Ulrike on the Heide,00:50:45
we had a00:50:48
long discussion before our award about00:50:49
invasive neophytes and about our00:50:51
rubies and I just00:50:53
said beforehand that your green woodpecker and great00:50:55
spotted woodpecker have all sorts of things in them and00:50:56
said that's not even imaginable00:50:57
[laughter]00:51:02
exactly and then of course sand lizards00:51:05
we have sand lizards that00:51:08
are very careful, I do00:51:11
n't know anymore, it's difficult now, of course,00:51:12
to see how much how much how much00:51:15
loss we have because of cats,00:51:16
birds of prey, other birds, something like advising00:51:19
crows or something like that, yes,00:51:22
but I believe that we have00:51:25
been in there for a few years and the00:51:26
population is increasing, yes, it's00:51:29
so that we have about ten twelve00:51:32
individuals that I can tell00:51:34
can distinguish from each other00:51:36
male female then had to or if00:51:40
what if they are at the same time00:51:41
then one is already pregnant that sees00:51:44
You then think about the others who aren't00:51:45
here yet and00:51:47
in the end I think it's00:51:49
important for them that they00:51:52
have relatively short distances to hide and so00:51:55
my garden design has to be so00:51:58
if they have long open landscapes00:52:01
so open in the sense of the blatant00:52:02
prayed in the sense that that's it, that's00:52:04
nothing, yes that means that you00:52:06
certainly don't have the lizards anymore00:52:10
and what does it look like in your00:52:11
immediate area so where do00:52:13
the sand lizards00:52:15
originally come from exactly where they where00:52:19
the lizards We come here, we00:52:22
have the lizard, we've had it for00:52:24
about six00:52:25
years, something like that, we00:52:28
have about a00:52:30
good kilometer to the north-west of us,00:52:33
maybe one and a half km, we00:52:35
once saw a lizard at a playground,00:52:37
they also have a00:52:39
dry stone wall or something like that once00:52:41
laid out there and we00:52:43
saw a few otherwise I wouldn't know of a single one in the area00:52:45
yes so we have00:52:47
agriculture on the other side00:52:49
yes so in the north in the west there is a00:52:52
property of the same size belonging to a00:52:54
friend of mine which is slow So after a00:52:57
bit of influence from me, the natural garden mutated so we will soon have00:52:59
6000 square meters, yes, um, we still have00:53:03
my meadow 150 meters away, half a00:53:05
hectare where it is extensively00:53:07
farmed, including a few00:53:08
sheep, and of00:53:10
course only mown once a year00:53:11
But it's a different smartphone00:53:13
concept, I don't do that either and00:53:15
so there's actually only this00:53:17
only option from my point of view, um00:53:18
so we didn't00:53:20
take any of them somewhere or anything like that, they were just there at some point that00:53:22
the garden had to00:53:24
fit, so00:53:26
there was I think somewhere around00:53:27
the opinion they could00:53:30
smell something like that, so somehow biotopes that would be00:53:33
ideal for you, yes it would be exactly in the00:53:35
west direction, from the wind it will00:53:36
fit somewhat where they00:53:38
came from, you can get it00:53:39
from the00:53:40
east northeast roughly yes,00:53:43
but of course I don't know that at00:53:44
some point they were there and that00:53:46
's important, of course many people keep chickens00:53:48
in combination with the00:53:50
natural garden, very briefly, yes and then of00:53:53
course when they are open when00:53:56
you don't have any dental text of course anymore because00:53:58
the chickens come for them of course also00:53:59
listen00:54:01
carefully there is a short00:54:02
comment about the green woodpecker we00:54:05
now have a 20 second delay that's why00:54:07
it sometimes comes a little later00:54:08
is um the green woodpecker doesn't need00:54:11
short grass to look for ants there00:54:13
it often looks for ants with us so um that's00:54:16
exactly it With the green woodpecker,00:54:19
according to our observations, it's00:54:21
true that if we do00:54:23
a few smaller light positions or00:54:25
in the summer, of course, he's00:54:27
preferred, but we00:54:31
also have other open areas,00:54:32
paths and things like that on the edge from edges where00:54:36
you regularly see them, I'll come00:54:38
back to that later, yes, but00:54:40
in principle it's true, yes,00:54:43
so00:54:44
you won't find the green woodpecker00:54:46
in the middle of the meadow with one meter00:54:48
high grass, that would be00:54:50
relatively easy for the advertising to be too confusing for him00:54:52
has victims from the bus or from00:54:53
a kestrel or something like that, I think he's00:54:55
doing it, I think he's not doing it00:55:00
well, then let's get to what you were00:55:03
all looking forward to, yes, and that will confuse us00:55:05
all at first, but00:55:06
I'll clarify, I promise I'll clarify it00:55:07
completely open and it's not00:55:10
as tight as he does now as she00:55:12
might look like yes, but what's00:55:14
important is just the considerations00:55:16
behind it, yes if he understands it00:55:18
or if he simply sees it as an impulse for00:55:20
you, then I do I think you'll learn00:55:22
a lot about what you can do yourself00:55:23
and you'll see that it's00:55:26
possible if you take a few basic00:55:28
things into account. Actually, you can't00:55:30
do that much wrong,00:55:33
but then you'll figure it out. So now00:55:36
we have the topic Yes, the carrot wants00:55:38
in late summer, we felt like00:55:39
mowing it, so I'm nice, yes, that's00:55:41
just too nice, we had it00:55:43
now in 2021. At this point,00:55:46
the carrot disappeared last year,00:55:48
but it looked huge. I want it to be00:55:49
two years old, that is We have to put a00:55:51
lot of places, the wild carrot is00:55:52
still a few centimeters high now, yes00:55:54
in the year when you00:55:55
have a few more square meters again, yes,00:55:58
it should be like that, so it likes to grow00:56:01
on the edge, yes, but then it was00:56:04
actually like that had an area00:56:05
I had no idea 20 30 meters long and 5 m00:56:08
wide so00:56:09
150 square meters almost only really00:56:11
in the grass in the existing grass it00:56:13
just00:56:14
looked like it was there00:56:17
and yes I somehow don't feel like00:56:20
mowing at all that's what it is now00:56:22
Hammer but somehow a problem that00:56:24
means I have to00:56:25
at some point I have to do more so why do00:56:27
I have to mow a lot we00:56:29
already have a lot anyway I think I've heard the days00:56:31
especially with Ulrike's00:56:34
so my little gate garden is00:56:36
of course not completely natural,00:56:37
yes the biodiversity that I now want to00:56:39
somehow create on 3000 square meters plus,00:56:41
yes, um, that's what I would00:56:44
say in nature, you, I have three00:56:45
30,000 square kilometers, yes,00:56:48
I don't actually need that, yes, and the00:56:51
second thing is that I won't be able to00:56:53
intervene here, yes then we would have In our case,00:56:56
we have dogwoods, these00:56:58
red dogwoods, we're00:56:59
full of them, so we've let a few00:57:01
grow, but they're keeping themselves well under control. Every00:57:02
now and then, a00:57:05
few distributors come up, please take the power00:57:07
away and that's it I would00:57:09
n't be critical of that and it doesn't cost any00:57:10
extra work, so at some point you'd have a00:57:13
long way to go and if I had a forest,00:57:14
of course I wouldn't have the00:57:15
diversity of species in the meadow anymore because00:57:17
the animals need the grasses that00:57:20
need all the meadow plants00:57:21
that need the nectar in the meadow00:57:24
They simply don't have these structures that00:57:25
specialize in this in the00:57:27
forest,00:57:29
and now we've also had00:57:31
the issue of grazing, yes, of course, it's been around00:57:34
for millions of years, we00:57:35
heard about the elephants,00:57:37
it was here in Langenau There's something going on00:57:38
in Lohne Valley, there are a00:57:41
lot of caves and and and00:57:44
basically there's a00:57:47
big elephant in Ulm, but a00:57:49
forest elephant looks a little different00:57:51
than the one I saw, but00:57:53
exactly and of course they00:57:55
kept it open or something00:57:58
Deer no idea urine00:58:02
whatever yes but00:58:04
I probably don't know00:58:06
exactly from this pasture lawn but it00:58:08
probably wasn't as00:58:09
rich in species as you have today or00:58:11
at least had, I'll come back later,00:58:13
it was like that and now a relevant intervention00:58:16
by a It was only00:58:17
a few hundred years ago or maybe00:58:19
2000 years ago and the00:58:21
old people said that somehow that's why00:58:23
from the00:58:24
Iron Age onwards when people actually00:58:26
mowed with interest and didn't try00:58:28
any stone things earlier00:58:29
The plucking is00:58:31
where you could really cultivate a larger area00:58:32
and that's how it00:58:34
came about at the moment. I know00:58:36
it's not mine, but it seems to have been a00:58:38
highlight of biodiversity in the00:58:40
meadows 150 years ago00:58:42
where people still00:58:43
mowed by hand, but they mowed them,00:58:46
which means that of course they have already00:58:50
made certain interventions here to a certain extent, but it was00:58:53
actually there before machines were00:58:56
used on a large scale and at such speed up00:58:57
until today runs00:58:59
and so often that's what people00:59:01
say today, yes, maybe that's00:59:03
the maximum and of course you prefer to orient00:59:05
yourself to the maximum than to the minimum, yes, it's00:59:07
understandable, yes, so I feel the same way00:59:13
a little less00:59:14
is still natural, it fits00:59:16
exactly, so that means we00:59:18
have to mow somehow, so how do00:59:21
we actually use it,00:59:22
sometimes with a scythe by00:59:24
hand, it's basically a scythe with the00:59:26
shorter blade, there it is a00:59:29
little faster, it doesn't stick in as often00:59:31
and you can use a little more force00:59:33
or you need it, you do00:59:35
n't have as much feed as00:59:37
with fresh grass, but with old grass,00:59:39
that's really C no and show me a picture00:59:42
When the grass flew over, there was00:59:43
clippings on it, yes, and at a00:59:45
certain height we cut every grass00:59:47
twice, once at the top, once at the bottom,00:59:48
yes, and then it's tiring, yes, and00:59:50
what we're doing now,00:59:52
or I say very briefly, I have to00:59:53
do it early, we had where We00:59:55
had fewer structures in there, fewer00:59:57
bushes, trees,00:59:59
stones, dead wood and so on. We01:00:02
borrowed a Metrac with Metrac01:00:04
with the Metrac bar mower. This01:00:06
embankment on the highway looks like01:00:08
a small, wide tractor with such01:00:11
small, thick tires. It's not that01:00:13
heavy at01:00:14
the front with the double bar knife is01:00:16
relatively gentle, except of course01:00:18
driving on it is of course not ideal,01:00:19
yes, but at some point it no longer worked01:00:21
then we have one from Agria,01:00:24
there is one of these, this single axle, yes it01:00:27
was with a meter of 40 and a double area but01:00:29
actually, to be honest, it was for them for01:00:30
the mountain meadow would be better01:00:32
suited than for us things are so01:00:33
unwieldy it wasn't really fun01:00:36
yes then we did it with the01:00:38
scythe only with that and in the meantime01:00:39
Thomas mix the food we do for01:00:42
sporting aspects yes and we01:00:44
do it completely Other things we have01:00:46
modified, we said we01:00:48
'll take a01:00:49
large commercial one,01:00:52
yes with a battery, because I can01:00:54
do something with it on Sunday, no, I wanted to01:00:56
try it out with the device01:01:02
Trying it out, plastic trips are out01:01:03
of the question anyway, because the thing just shreds01:01:05
and doesn't cut, and we had to01:01:07
distribute the microplastic in the garden,01:01:09
yes, the knife as it comes from the factory, it's01:01:12
kind of a knife, so to speak, yes,01:01:13
they're relatively blunt and you can see01:01:17
When you mow with the blade, depending on how01:01:18
dull the blade is, the material01:01:21
just flies over and then that's good for me01:01:23
if it just tips over, yes then it's01:01:24
cut and when I see it01:01:26
always fall away a little bit then it's too01:01:28
blunt, that means I've got the thing From01:01:29
what I made, the thing was01:01:30
sanded properly, of course it's a01:01:32
bit sensitive to stone01:01:33
or something like that, but then I have to worry about01:01:36
the distance from the01:01:39
stones or other things. It01:01:41
actually works pretty well, yes,01:01:44
and I'll show you now Let's take a look at the smart01:01:47
concept of how we do it and01:01:49
I'll just tell you that very briefly. I know01:01:50
about it that I'm really crazy about it. Yes, it can be 40 percent,01:01:54
it can also be01:01:56
30 percent. Yes, in advance it should also be 30 percent. It does01:01:58
n't matter at all, it's just that how01:01:59
we do it yes and I'll tell you01:02:01
later at the end everything is not01:02:03
eaten as hot as it is cooked yes01:02:05
that's just our principle now yes and01:02:08
our principle is ultimately I think01:02:10
I'll try to minimize the intervention01:02:12
as possible but there Where necessary, we01:02:14
just have to do something like that and we try to01:02:16
maintain something and we try we01:02:19
have two two larger areas 40% and01:02:21
40%, the more one is one year the01:02:25
other on others yes that means they are01:02:26
both there over the year01:02:29
Of course, many people said oh God, what01:02:31
happens then it falls at the top and you01:02:33
just have nothing growing01:02:35
through it anymore and so you have to01:02:37
try it out then you know that and01:02:39
we do it as a relay match01:02:41
relay market means I don't take everything01:02:43
at once you everything gone, yes, we should01:02:45
n't actually do that, we take it off01:02:47
the area but it does01:02:49
n't go into the composting facility and01:02:52
isn't basically removed from the property01:02:55
and let's say01:02:56
the possibility so I01:02:59
usually do it for a good two weeks01:03:00
that I say Do it then, I have01:03:01
no idea, on three dates on three01:03:04
weekends or something like that, yes the seam then01:03:07
you always have01:03:08
some01:03:09
insects in between that are still there at that01:03:11
time and you can see it is01:03:13
relatively late at the end of October so many01:03:14
maybe not there anymore but what01:03:16
else there are beetles that are slower, that ca01:03:18
n't take cover now, they01:03:19
can always go somewhere else,01:03:22
yes, that means they can get out of the market01:03:23
before they are transported away and, for example,01:03:28
we use it to mulch the beds,01:03:30
yes, and things like that Then01:03:32
they can come out comfortably, yes, exactly, and then that's01:03:34
why we have these two01:03:35
strips, which means that each strip01:03:37
actually only comes out every two years, yes,01:03:43
Matthias said something yesterday about01:03:45
a year and a half, I think we've01:03:46
tested something more and it's coming01:03:48
then almost an obstacle, yes, exactly, and01:03:51
if I were to mow something now, for01:03:52
example, we make this light position,01:03:54
we make the clearing at the beginning of June01:03:56
last year at the beginning of July, it was01:03:58
a bit late but01:03:59
definitely after May because everything you do in01:04:02
principle is in any way Plant stems are01:04:03
still developed somewhere that's I01:04:05
can be sure that it's around01:04:06
the end of May, almost everything is outside because it01:04:07
's just then it gets too warm in the01:04:10
old plantation area and they'll sweat01:04:12
at some point, I guess, and come01:04:13
out voluntarily, but that's not the case01:04:15
In the past they don't drive in01:04:17
March or something different so then we have01:04:21
again so this 10% light position01:04:23
is two parts 1 we're currently trying out01:04:24
with stock yes I01:04:27
actually have we have five six on the 500001:04:30
square meters next door01:04:33
Sheep,01:04:34
someone came along with a camera, somehow a01:04:38
young Turk who said he has 50 sheep01:04:39
and he needs them every now and then and01:04:41
then he stays01:04:43
half the trailer on half the hectare01:04:44
maybe ten days or something like that,01:04:46
so not too long and01:04:49
then I have a job like it and that01:04:51
changes a bit01:04:52
defense that you have quite extensive01:04:54
overgrazing so different construction site01:04:56
but a bit of management got me01:04:58
in there and just tried it out because01:04:59
then I can look directly01:05:00
next to each other which which The effect is01:05:03
just a question, but now it concerns01:05:06
an overgrown flower meadow, not a01:05:09
new plant, that's not a new plant,01:05:10
right, yes, because with a new plant,01:05:13
carpenters say mow three times01:05:15
a year for two years, yes, the topic is good in a01:05:19
new location, we started completely differently,01:05:21
yes, but At some point a new plant is01:05:23
also an overgrown01:05:24
flower meadow, so at some point it's01:05:27
a new location, it's no longer a plant,01:05:32
so the question is what doesn't mean position,01:05:34
light position means I'm worried01:05:45
yes, it really stays until it is01:05:47
available, we don't do01:05:48
anything, the only thing is if the privet01:05:50
or any woody shoots01:05:52
come out, it's done, men, nothing else01:05:57
[music]01:06:00
you do that with the sheep to get a01:06:02
little bit of nutrients in there01:06:04
or in other ways Promoting animals01:06:06
that have these01:06:08
legacies is01:06:14
exactly what it was about right now it doesn't01:06:17
belong in the back so why what's the purpose of the01:06:20
shafts so to01:06:23
bring in nutrients there or to promote animals that01:06:25
ultimately settle specifically on the01:06:27
lower shafts and the01:06:29
answer was both01:06:31
okay exactly and now the I just asked01:06:33
the topic of light position,01:06:35
light position means when it's most beautiful01:06:37
when everything is blooming, then I'm the01:06:40
meadow and it has the background that01:06:42
other plants that this plant is01:06:45
might not let them come up01:06:46
because they just grow up and01:06:47
yes I have the chance that they will01:06:49
gives other plants a chance to get up there,01:06:50
yes those that might not get out with the01:06:53
other market concepts,01:06:54
that's called01:06:57
light position, yes and as I said,01:06:58
position is important01:07:06
and how much does it bring01:07:08
afterwards and it's not that easy yes01:07:10
and ultimately this lighting position01:07:14
has an element to it yes because I01:07:17
think that's just how I say if you use01:07:20
different media or a01:07:22
different concept01:07:24
contains different elements yes then you can01:07:27
do a few things wrong as if you're relying on a01:07:29
concept, yes, but then at the very end I'll get into it01:07:31
again01:07:34
and I'll show you a little bit about what exactly the01:07:35
market is01:07:39
next to it, that was01:07:42
actually in November,01:07:43
they still ate a little bit, yes,01:07:44
but also after a week01:07:46
then they're probably completely different, yes,01:07:49
exactly, but is that what you see, how01:07:51
high I actually thought of that then that01:07:53
Even with this brush cutter or01:07:55
with the hand scythe it doesn't01:07:56
matter,01:07:57
in principle it's so high that it is here too,01:08:02
if I say 15 cm, yes then01:08:05
I have a good chance that you01:08:07
can get all the locust eggs for me01:08:09
or larvae or what's there and01:08:11
they also have a good chance that they wo01:08:12
n't hurt hedgehogs, for example, so01:08:14
I'm always above the layer above01:08:15
a hedgehog is anyway the ditches are01:08:17
usually relatively flat down on the ground,01:08:20
yes and that's why01:08:23
never happened and we have a01:08:25
hedgehog01:08:27
question from the chat. Couldn't you describe your01:08:29
meadow as a grass tree or a01:08:33
tall herbaceous border with a01:08:34
meadow clearing? I01:08:38
would now have to ask my consulting01:08:39
biologist01:08:41
what exactly that means. So I'll01:08:44
say it,01:08:45
how should I say it now?01:08:48
Designation is actually not01:08:50
particularly important to me, it's important what kind of01:08:52
result it brings afterwards, that's01:08:53
the only thing that matters to me and that01:08:55
's it's somehow a bit of fun,01:08:56
that's the only thing that matters to me,01:08:57
yes, but that's why I end up doing it01:09:00
We now have the01:09:02
conferences here in the days, yes, I have there, I have01:09:04
already picked up so many so many terms01:09:05
in the but I prefer01:09:07
not to put anything on our website01:09:09
because people don't know what they01:09:10
actually want afterwards01:09:12
I have to explain it in such a way that it is as simple as possible01:09:15
yes01:09:17
food habitats yes01:09:20
exactly one more question yes01:09:23
do you say anything about using the01:09:25
market and cutting well how do you deal with01:09:26
it it comes straight away that is relatively01:09:28
easy yes I think it comes two three01:09:30
slides later mowed exactly high and01:09:32
now you know what happens this coarse01:09:34
this coarse cut well yes01:09:38
I think you don't have to have studied01:09:40
to say what is coarse is01:09:42
better for the sect than if I pulverize something for01:09:43
myself01:09:44
or that means if01:09:46
I mulch Yes, everything that I01:09:49
shred to the maximum of01:09:51
course also shreds everything that is in there and that01:09:53
's why01:09:54
you ultimately see how the stuff01:09:56
just fell over. Ultimately yes01:09:57
and for me that is a01:09:59
quality feature, which is also what they say about01:10:02
double bar mowing is very good,01:10:03
only we have it of which with the01:10:04
machine the sheet the space to01:10:05
drive because we simply have too many01:10:07
structures in between it's01:10:09
not worth it and it does01:10:11
n't do me any good if I01:10:12
do a staggered market with the big01:10:13
machine because I have to stop again after 2 minutes01:10:14
and hours Let's01:10:15
continue next week, well then, my01:10:17
love, half an hour with01:10:18
this brush cutter modified a little bit,01:10:20
it actually works01:10:22
quite well and then we'll get to it in a moment, it01:10:26
's always well removed every time,01:10:28
so it's actually removed and it01:10:31
still looks like it's high is yes01:10:32
and yes we do two things with it01:10:35
so we used to make horses out of it01:10:37
today yes now that we have left it for01:10:39
so long yes it is01:10:40
no longer ideal for the horses because they01:10:41
hardly eat01:10:43
what we do now In two things,01:10:48
participants actually have to01:10:50
mulch the beds so that they don't01:10:51
stay open over the winter and there is01:10:54
n't that much left01:10:55
of them in the spring and I've had01:10:57
fun with them now, for example. I think we'll01:10:58
do some, we have a few There are01:11:00
personal domes from01:11:02
Schwegler and they can be bought under the dead wood for01:11:03
hedgehogs or on the brushwood and can01:11:05
retreat to somewhere super quickly01:11:07
and we have part of the01:11:09
market goods, we also threw two pallets01:11:11
and it is now only half as high,01:11:14
yes that's it Certainly in01:11:16
November and there is a cavity under the pallet01:11:18
where there is actually01:11:20
down there then you've already heard about it01:11:22
so caught meadow go in and that01:11:26
's just yes so01:11:29
as I said we actually don't use it in01:11:32
any form what you now01:11:34
have productive hay in the past, yes, but today you have to01:11:36
hinder things in other ways, you can do things01:11:37
that bite each other, I ca01:11:39
n't say I'll do one thing one year,01:11:42
Anja the other yes, makes horses01:11:44
out today, that means the horses aren't any more, yes01:11:45
you can somehow get a horse, what what,01:11:48
maybe what kind of hooves it has or something like01:11:50
that could still be like skinny if there is a01:11:54
period of time that is really skinny and there are more01:11:57
which five of these on no that01:12:00
was actually that and what was milked01:12:02
you just have to go around a little bit and around01:12:04
the fruit trees on it there yes where01:12:06
you have just been01:12:07
planting something new and what you can01:12:08
do in between when we are01:12:10
planning, for example, just where I01:12:11
say, we still have for ourselves from01:12:13
the biodiversity too little too much01:12:15
grasses something like that and says help or01:12:18
something or in the vaccination yes there can01:12:20
be I throw it on three01:12:21
square meters so high that says it01:12:23
all and then I have to remove the grass01:12:24
or not much earlier yes01:12:26
that means let nature01:12:29
do its work then I do01:12:30
n't need much do yes so that means01:12:32
to get open ground yes01:12:34
we use it too yes so it's funny more01:12:37
actually had nothing left from year to year01:12:39
disappears01:12:40
something fancy yes it as I said01:12:42
before we still have something01:12:43
somehow but that that It's not a problem,01:12:46
yes, the only thing was that we had to be a little careful, but of01:12:49
course if you mess with it,01:12:52
pray in the vegetables, of course you also01:12:53
have a little bit of grass in it, yes, although it's01:12:55
within limits, a lot of the field falls off, a lot of it01:12:57
falls down, yes, um But you always have a little bit of something01:12:59
with you in the evening, so that01:13:00
means it's either in there or you have to take it out01:13:02
again depends on the type of grass.01:13:04
Some of it can maybe be plucked out that01:13:05
it doesn't matter, but I think it's01:13:09
a little bit01:13:11
that forms the zone for a long time01:13:15
and then I'll show you what01:13:17
happened two years ago,01:13:18
should I01:13:20
okay how it happened two years ago,01:13:23
everyone said oh God oh God,01:13:25
you'll never get rid of it in your life because it's01:13:27
half as bad, yes, so that's what that means01:13:29
It was now in the late wind I think it01:13:31
must have been February last year maybe01:13:33
in February that the CD got the01:13:35
snow on it and it fell over then01:13:36
the lizards were happy because01:13:38
it is of course ideal for01:13:39
hunting underneath, especially when they come in the very spring01:13:43
Maybe in April or something like that,01:13:46
depending on the weather, if it's01:13:49
warm enough, I could just01:13:51
move them around in the meadow so they can01:13:52
cover long distances or01:13:54
leave them completely protected among us, yes, and what's more01:13:57
nice Yes, nothing ever grows01:14:00
through it again and so I had a completely01:14:02
different experience, but you have to01:14:03
understand a little bit what's01:14:05
happening underneath, that is, if you01:14:08
thought after doing something like that, it was now at the01:14:10
end of October this year and I'm01:14:13
counting on this01:14:15
from this litter that then01:14:17
takes place down there after the mat on the right out01:14:20
then I see a lot of open ground,01:14:22
which means that if the grass or01:14:25
the vegetation in general simply falls over there is01:14:27
of course less light and I thin01:14:28
out my vegetation a bit, yes01:14:31
I wouldn't be for that either do everything at the same time01:14:32
but if you have places like that01:14:35
and you know the topic of vaccination, yes, of01:14:38
course I can if I01:14:40
know what's growing in my meadow and if01:14:41
I have ideas about what's01:14:43
missing in there, yes, I can plant something there01:14:46
relatively easily, yes I don't have to01:14:50
come here with a spade or dig holes, I don't have to,01:14:52
yes, and we now have, for01:14:53
example, something similar01:15:01
Green01:15:05
again is, I immediately01:15:07
checked and we didn't think it was stupid, it can't01:15:09
be, but it shouldn't be, but we01:15:11
felt offended, yes, and then we01:15:14
thought, okay, what does the little animal need?01:15:21
ordered without01:15:23
knowing there are any beans at all,01:15:25
yes and we looked at our place,01:15:26
we actually have a few species in the01:15:28
very north at the end where the light one01:15:31
is a little deeper, the whole01:15:32
area yes01:15:33
and that's exactly where I01:15:36
did something similar mowing excitedly, a01:15:38
little bit simply made sure it was open down to the01:15:40
ground and then we simply01:15:41
stated there01:15:54
so I'll go back very briefly to01:15:56
the topic of old grass that remains that remains01:15:59
now that was, for example, could have been01:16:00
February 21, that's01:16:03
actually the case now stayed until October01:16:06
no sorry01:16:08
22 so it actually stays until the01:16:11
same year but until autumn it does01:16:13
n't look like that it looks like in01:16:15
May you can't see anything of it01:16:16
anymore, yes there's so much going on that01:16:18
everything is focused on you again01:16:20
You see, there's no difference01:16:21
after that, it's totally crazy, yes, that leads to01:16:23
gappy soil, which of course leads01:16:26
to the vegetation. Of course, you01:16:28
also have to look at which plants are01:16:30
suppressed and which aren't01:16:34
It's not that01:16:36
bad every year, there was really01:16:37
snow on it, it rained on it,01:16:39
you don't have that every year, but01:16:40
still many people say it's01:16:43
terrible what's happening under there,01:16:44
nothing grows anymore, lots of people01:16:45
had gone under there That's01:16:46
not entirely true from my experience and experience,01:16:48
but you have the positive effect01:16:50
that you get this open ground,01:16:51
yes, and what we then use, for example,01:16:54
is someone all the way one further further up01:16:56
to here, which is01:16:59
a lean strip so two01:17:01
meters wide 15 m long01:17:04
basically the butterfly tree grows like this from the01:17:05
Ernst yes and what's beautiful is what01:17:10
I've seen best,01:17:12
so that means I get a01:17:14
natural vaccination from the Windener01:17:15
now of course not all the flowers01:17:18
here are for one butterfly room that01:17:21
copes well with poor locations, suitable for01:17:22
growing in slightly richer soil,01:17:23
but the wild carrot has sown itself exactly over01:17:25
this edge and we01:17:27
had tons of wild carrots at once,01:17:29
yes01:17:30
with well then head, for example,01:17:32
it needs something Dry, yes,01:17:35
it doesn't work, but with what01:17:37
we don't have a problem with in mallow, for example,01:17:41
or I think it's the only one in there,01:17:43
I find it everywhere now, so01:17:45
in the studio, the whole garden over time,01:17:48
what you haven't revealed yet is something01:17:50
The original seed mixture for the01:17:52
entire area was basically a01:17:56
pasture grass mixture, a completely normal01:17:59
pasture grass mixture like something a farmer01:18:01
bought from a country store to produce for a while,01:18:03
yes, that was where I01:18:06
said, well, I almost01:18:07
did it retroactively01:18:10
only grasses, yes, that too read in it01:18:12
and types of herbs in it and something like that but in01:18:13
principle clover and types of grass almost only yes, so now01:18:16
it looks completely01:18:18
different. You also saw what it looked like01:18:20
at the beginning, what it looks like now,01:18:21
so nature will take care of it01:18:22
a lot back when I think at the very01:18:24
beginning, as I said, there wasn't even01:18:25
a01:18:28
daisy growing on it, yes,01:18:30
it was totally overgreased and we01:18:33
just took the Smart01:18:34
down constantly, just at the01:18:36
beginning, it was mowed often, yes,01:18:38
the Smart Concept of what you drive now01:18:39
we've only been doing for three years about 301:18:41
years about01:18:43
okay a question of the skinny strip how01:18:45
wide is it and how did you01:18:47
slim down ah the painter's strip is01:18:51
like two two maybe three meters wide01:18:53
15 m long about yes it's in the West01:18:55
emaciated relatively easily01:18:59
we simply01:19:01
pushed off the grass or 20 cm in the mini excavator. We have01:19:04
a few loads of mineral concrete in the Unimog so it01:19:07
is limescale with fine parts or01:19:09
poured in and with a net it is 100%01:19:12
brand, we still have it on the whole01:19:14
area, I think So I crushed half a01:19:15
bucket of01:19:16
compost on it, so I didn't think there was01:19:19
a little bit of pepper on your01:19:20
cherry leaves, so yes,01:19:24
we actually got rid of that, yes we01:19:26
made strips, but we don't have any01:19:28
compost in there anymore, just so01:19:30
many different types of thyme grow there and01:19:32
something like that is really a very01:19:33
dry location01:19:35
exactly01:19:38
exactly a quick question about the01:19:41
fallen old grass what do you do with it01:19:43
in October when you put it away01:19:45
so this same as the others nothing01:19:48
different no difference yes so01:19:50
that's01:19:51
[music]01:19:53
it actually does no difference,01:19:55
so whether the environment01:19:57
is funny or not, everything that comes out down there01:19:58
stands up again, you see01:20:01
no difference in October, yes, you do01:20:03
n't see that it once fell over, that's01:20:04
the blatant thing, you just see that's01:20:06
always between the Greens too01:20:07
There are brown stems and you also have01:20:09
gaps in between everything so that's um01:20:11
that's the difference is much01:20:14
smaller than you would imagine I01:20:15
have that too but at the beginning I01:20:17
also panicked think oh how01:20:18
do you get rid of it straight away if that's the case01:20:19
Environment that simply says you01:20:21
sometimes need a bit of nerve in the natural garden,01:20:23
you just have to be able to01:20:25
endure something and just01:20:28
do nothing. That's exactly what is very01:20:30
important, just wait01:20:31
and see what happens, that's very important01:20:34
or to observe, yes, that's01:20:36
exactly what it is fell over in February01:20:40
and that means that it didn't01:20:42
stay there until October of the01:20:44
same year, yes that's when I01:20:46
mowed it, but that's01:20:48
basically when other grasses come along in May, because01:20:50
all sorts of things01:20:51
just grew through, yes that was it01:20:54
Actually, the differences were01:20:56
not so huge compared to what I had01:20:58
mowed the year before. I also thought01:20:59
that it was much worse, but it was01:21:01
actually01:21:02
important now, regardless of whether01:21:04
you say it is totally optimal for the vegetation01:21:06
or not, but you01:21:08
There are differences and I think01:21:10
they are important to have more so01:21:11
differentiated I think in01:21:13
biology it is also called diversity and01:21:15
that's why it's always everything that I think is a01:21:18
little different from each other, I do01:21:19
n't think it's that bad at all that01:21:20
's why we don't have one That's why it would have been01:21:21
crap if we hadn't seen the01:21:23
whole area now, no01:21:25
pasture grass mixture at the very beginning,01:21:26
but all the Markus Gastel01:21:28
earth, everything was completely gone and everything was01:21:31
filled with building rubble or01:21:33
limestone, we wouldn't have the01:21:36
biodiversity and I know there is a01:21:38
book by Reinhard Witt, he01:21:41
described various gardens and01:21:43
the biodiversity is also there.01:21:45
Markus Gassel is not at the01:21:46
forefront because he has01:21:49
certain structures but he doesn't have01:21:51
all the structures. Yes, he is very, very close01:21:53
It's on the lean side and there are01:21:55
also wet meadows, yes, I don't think it's01:21:57
bad for nothing, it's just01:21:59
normal all over the world, but it's01:22:01
such a natural garden.01:22:03
I was also thinking that way because all the01:22:05
wild plants, all the wild herbs,01:22:07
wild flowers Most of them are01:22:08
life-threatening, yes,01:22:10
many of them are definitely there, but it's01:22:12
not all,01:22:14
especially with01:22:17
rich soil you can also create01:22:19
species-rich meadows really well. Would01:22:22
n't you like to just plow a two meter01:22:26
wide strip again01:22:28
and would you like to01:22:30
[ Laughter]01:22:33
but yes, what do you think what happens01:22:36
where, for example, we actually01:22:39
leave Marat material lying around for a few square meters, it's01:22:41
quite easier for us because the grass underneath01:22:42
just breaks down,01:22:43
yes, or are you doing it easier or01:22:46
something To do something new, yes, we also have01:22:47
a few projects with perennials ahead of us.01:22:50
Yes, we did a tour last year.01:22:52
Dieter Geißmeister was there,01:22:55
maybe he was there with his staff.01:22:58
It was really expensive, so he liked it. I01:23:00
think I really liked01:23:01
one too against invitation then yes01:23:02
and there will certainly be a01:23:05
little bit of work with traffic jams yes but is01:23:06
n't it the case if you leave the material lying around01:23:09
that promotes the grass so I'm01:23:11
now thinking about the greenery along the road yes01:23:13
yes the mussels are all yes and there01:23:15
We're actually always of the opinion01:23:17
that it has to be removed so that01:23:21
the mulch is emaciated, so if you want,01:23:24
you have the stuff so small yes that it01:23:26
's on the ground on the01:23:27
plants against but not that it's01:23:29
on the plants on it that means I01:23:31
can't get the plants anymore, the01:23:32
difference is01:23:38
that the mulch material suffocates more, no, the01:23:41
other way round, now no, I suffocate more, yes,01:23:42
so here is the bath material but only01:23:45
from it is wanted, yes there where I say01:23:47
I want to get rid of the grass anyway, yes I want to01:23:49
because Next year I01:23:50
want to try an area with perennials or01:23:52
something completely different or a01:23:55
slightly wetter meadow mixture or01:23:58
that is suitable for a slightly wetter location.01:23:59
Yes, that's how we'll01:24:02
do it, so we still have a01:24:03
lot to do, okay,01:24:06
then01:24:10
I'll do it I think that also has a little something to01:24:12
do with01:24:14
how small you make the whole thing, the01:24:16
nitrogen input into the soil and01:24:19
in principle the fertilization through this01:24:21
newt is just a lot quicker and a lot deeper when the plant parts01:24:24
are very very small01:24:25
and when the01:24:27
material If it stays on top and01:24:29
rots, I think then you need01:24:30
nitrogen on the ground, sometimes01:24:32
I can't say that, but01:24:35
the problem01:24:36
in the garden everywhere,01:24:39
the question was whether if you leave the01:24:41
Smart lying there well, it does01:24:43
n't contribute to it, I think01:24:46
A little louder01:24:48
the question was whether if you leave the Smart01:24:51
lying well, the soil won't01:24:54
be enriched with nutrients too much and we actually want it to be01:24:55
leaner, so I think that01:24:57
depends on how small the material01:24:58
is that is left on it and I01:25:00
mean if something rots and lies on01:25:02
top and is coarse then I think it01:25:05
also removes nitrogen from the soil, which01:25:07
means you basically kill two birds01:25:09
with one stone. Can you also01:25:10
say something else?01:25:13
It depends on the cn ratio, so how01:25:16
a lot of nitrogen and how much carbon01:25:18
is in the material and the older01:25:19
the material is, the slower it01:25:22
decomposes and nitrogen also binds,01:25:24
but when I have fresh01:25:26
material that01:25:28
comes up two weeks two months beforehand, which I have no idea, the01:25:31
mate releases the nitrogen01:25:34
directly free01:25:36
exactly so old so I just01:25:39
learned old doesn't release that much01:25:41
nitrogen but I would have explained it completely01:25:43
differently from my point of view if01:25:45
you have a tea bag and the very fine very01:25:47
fine herbs in it or you throw it in01:25:48
there then you get a tea if a01:25:50
single leaf in one piece stallion01:25:52
then I can wait a long time so01:25:53
in the end there are of course much more01:25:55
smaller ones that is regardless of the01:25:57
same age it's already01:25:59
big right now we were it01:26:03
was in the natural garden we do01:26:05
n't cover a topic of agriculture and the community01:26:08
back to the garden for a long time, yes,01:26:09
but that's also part of it and you01:26:13
may know these things,01:26:15
flail mower, yes with us, I01:26:18
actually saw a farmer last year and01:26:20
asked him why he was01:26:22
with it on the edge between the path01:26:24
and the field, I believe that There might even have01:26:26
been a municipal reason for mowing one01:26:28
more stroke there and then01:26:30
I asked him why you were there, let01:26:32
his colleague in the farm life do it and that01:26:35
just looked neat01:26:36
was the only reason and he said that's why you01:26:38
drive your diesel and you sit down01:26:39
your working hours and we usually have that01:26:41
because you don't have time for anything01:26:42
because you're so amaranth01:26:44
all day long, it's just01:26:46
kind of fun and I didn't01:26:48
understand that, yes, and that's just the way it is01:26:51
a topic where I say for me01:26:53
I need the picture and it's not mine,01:26:54
that's a few pictures that01:26:56
aren't mine, yes you know, I don't have a thing,01:26:57
I don't want it either, yes and01:26:59
I understand that it goes for example Let's have01:27:02
a second one here at the01:27:04
street-accompanied green, it's less01:27:06
work, it's all done in one step,01:27:08
I don't have to pay01:27:09
anything away and so on, yes, but01:27:11
on the other hand, if you imagine01:27:13
that a community is blooming on one side at the same time01:27:16
Somewhere01:27:18
flowering science spends money on it01:27:19
and at the same time in the same01:27:22
time here again causes things where01:27:25
I say to people who could probably01:27:27
do without the glow wipes and01:27:29
just do a little01:27:30
less milk. You would probably have had01:27:31
less money and less effort01:27:33
gained more yes and but01:27:36
interesting study was published in the spectrum01:27:40
ultimately the number of victims from the01:27:44
rotating books so like they often01:27:47
have the Unimogs and something like that on the side yes01:27:48
with the bugs yes where a lot lives on and on01:27:53
the ground then of course 29% In the01:27:55
order of01:27:56
spiders and cicadas half and then01:28:00
let me be amazed has flies01:28:01
skin wings so all the01:28:02
bees and wasps can also do 50%. because they01:28:05
then drive over it relatively quickly,01:28:06
yes, they are gone so that the flies do01:28:09
n't leave as quickly as they01:28:11
come out like the others, yes and then the topic of01:28:13
insects is larvae, which are of course much01:28:14
less mobile, they ca01:28:16
n't fly away at all and butterflies in01:28:18
particular then the caterpillars too,01:28:19
yes, they're almost completely gone after that,01:28:21
no, and then they mow very deeply, you know,01:28:23
it looks a little different01:28:25
than mine, then yes,01:28:27
and of course that's a01:28:30
problem, so01:28:33
after that it's nice and tidy, so it works01:28:35
Well, there's no point in getting annoyed about things like that,01:28:36
regardless of whether it's in01:28:38
agriculture or in the municipality,01:28:40
but the question is with the municipality.01:28:43
I've already tried it. We01:28:46
have a very good city gardener who01:28:48
now does a lot,01:28:51
I'd say a lot, of projects In principle, it also makes01:28:54
a stream in the middle of the city01:28:55
if01:28:59
you grow hedges and something like that with a lot of01:29:01
effort, mulching but still01:29:03
relatively much and then it's like that where he says01:29:05
he has the resources, he can01:29:07
just do it, but he That's a01:29:10
lot. I've found another field01:29:11
where I can work. That's01:29:14
my neighbor,01:29:16
his family originally comes from01:29:18
Stadtwald. Stadtwald is in the Tannheimer01:29:20
Valley. It's the first place when you drive from01:29:21
Oberjoch Germany to Austria01:29:22
in Tyrol to Tyrol01:29:24
and his family has a01:29:27
farm with 20 hectares of grassland,01:29:29
yes, they make01:29:31
hay and some of them are mountain meadows, there is01:29:34
a flatter one of them that are always01:29:35
down in the valley water. Extremely stones, too, yes, they01:29:37
had a tractor with about01:29:39
5 tons with field preparation, of course01:29:42
you can imagine what01:29:44
the thing is doing, yes, with01:29:47
a drum mower01:29:49
it was crazy last year01:29:51
[laughter]01:29:55
and01:29:56
I wasn't, I wasn't, I didn't01:29:58
break it, no, I didn't01:29:59
break it, yes, and then they01:30:01
got me I was asked by Markus, who01:30:03
this concerns, who works for01:30:06
me. We share the management01:30:08
of our company, so we have to be good friends and01:30:10
he says you, we would like to, so we01:30:13
now get here with us in01:30:14
society, so in agriculture,01:30:16
which I get next01:30:17
We're still getting money every year so we can get out of the forest01:30:19
and stuff like that, but we'd like to01:30:20
start doing something like this this year. We've been01:30:27
thinking about converting the excavator here to insect-friendly for ten years now, and01:30:29
yes, then we found a deal01:30:34
We basically got crazy loans, we think we01:30:35
got 70,000 euros until the middle of the01:30:38
year until he was basically01:30:39
able to finance it himself01:30:42
and bought a new tractor,01:30:46
gave the old payments, that's an hour and a half,01:30:48
that's actually a meadow of01:30:50
them it's just the picture because the picture I01:30:51
think I took it in December it just01:30:52
came in just01:30:55
before Christmas they got it01:30:56
yes I don't have an original picture either I01:30:58
've already seen it in pictures but01:30:59
I don't have one myself yet and that's it01:31:02
what my condition was there is01:31:04
environmental technology that makes a01:31:06
double blade mower,01:31:08
I think they even got a European award01:31:11
30-7-8 years ago or something like that and that's01:31:14
something where you usually do it very gently and01:31:16
similar to the brush cutter01:31:18
which he saw before, things01:31:19
have to be cut and not shreds,01:31:20
no, and that's why it cuts, it makes the01:31:22
right cuts, you can01:31:24
use it to cut hair, yes,01:31:27
okay,01:31:31
the thread cutter is shredded, why is that01:31:34
bad? I was asked that the other day01:31:36
and I couldn't01:31:37
change it. Damage that more animals or01:31:40
damages that the plant does01:31:41
n't grow so well because otherwise the stems are torn apart.01:31:43
Both are allowed of course so01:31:46
let's put it this way if you take a look at it01:31:48
so if you really01:31:50
approach the matter very sensitively then01:31:53
yes and if you look at it01:31:55
how a mower drives through you can01:31:57
really see how the plants are standing and01:31:58
simply falling over. Yes, that means everything01:32:01
that is in half is, but I01:32:03
also say that it is not loaded by it,01:32:04
whether it is not mechanically loaded, yes01:32:05
if I drive through01:32:07
half the skin now gone because you fall through, even though they're a01:32:10
size, they're maybe a little01:32:11
wrinkled or the skin is gone, but01:32:12
then it also knocks out the eggs or the01:32:14
other things that are01:32:16
still stuck to them or that01:32:17
might have a chance there01:32:18
to get rid of the skin, just01:32:19
get rid of it first, yes, and that's how you have fun,01:32:22
I don't know how big they are, yes, it01:32:24
breaks a few biological01:32:25
scientific studies that would be01:32:26
interesting, but01:32:28
I think it's clearly already there,01:32:30
so if I have it, that's01:32:32
also the case a bit of a gut feeling and yes01:32:33
when you see grass just falling over01:32:35
then it feels different to me01:32:37
yes01:32:39
the interface is torn up but01:32:41
that's no so interface there01:32:44
is on the topic of interface by the way01:32:45
the difference from that but it has01:32:47
nothing to do with that Biodiversity01:32:50
but when making hay when harvesting hay01:32:52
when you mow with something like that you get a01:32:54
straight cut on a home with the01:32:56
drum mower you get a bruise01:32:58
yes and that means with the drum mower01:33:01
you have to turn immediately afterwards and turn again01:33:03
because the moisture comes out of it Grass01:33:06
cannot come out properly because the area01:33:08
is squashed. When the area is01:33:09
cut, the area of grass is01:33:11
relatively open and that means01:33:13
moisture can escape better and01:33:14
we have now done the calculations01:33:16
for the mower, too. You save01:33:20
around01:33:21
75% of the diesel 75 % and01:33:25
on the one hand because it needs significantly less01:33:27
speed than a drum mower01:33:29
yes and the second is clear the tractor01:33:33
is lighter the use is generally the01:33:34
tractor needs less yes and the01:33:36
third is you actually have fun01:33:37
driving you leave it as it01:33:40
is and does once if then01:33:42
you can no and you have to drive otherwise01:33:44
you come out three times01:33:45
that means they tighten at least01:33:47
or if I do two trips yes and01:33:50
I farm I don't leave the meadow01:33:52
with another tractor driving over it no so that's that01:33:53
has a lot of effects and01:33:56
that's actually nice, right now01:33:58
I would like to talk about the market concept01:34:00
beforehand, where perhaps one of them has01:34:02
already panicked. I01:34:03
now have to leave it at 40% or 39 and it01:34:06
had to be two years or just01:34:07
one and a half or whatever I01:34:09
want Take away the worry a01:34:10
bit, there is a study in01:34:12
Switzerland that is really exciting, it comes01:34:15
from agriculture and they01:34:18
investigated the following, they said01:34:20
we would do every ten meters or so01:34:24
a meter strip of old grass, just01:34:26
leave it there01:34:27
until next year just like that01:34:29
Just stay on top of it, this is a01:34:31
region where you can only take it once anyway.01:34:32
Switzerland if you're in the01:34:35
mountains you don't get the top 1000 meters,01:34:37
you don't do it twice twice01:34:39
a year and they01:34:42
did a study in 2009 and01:34:45
we have them with different ones animals01:34:47
but then here there is01:34:48
an evaluation on the right with grasshoppers01:34:51
and they mowed a meadow and did01:34:55
n't mow a meadow but with the strips01:34:57
yes and there it was approximately that if you01:34:59
the result if you like five or ten01:35:01
percent of the area in strip shapes and01:35:04
in practice it probably doesn't01:35:06
matter whether you get stripes or get them or01:35:07
something else, it's easy if you leave them01:35:08
somewhere, but01:35:10
with intervals the animals can also escape,01:35:11
yes that's where they stand again and01:35:13
then about 40% of them survive01:35:17
Animals occurring in the meadow in the01:35:19
other process and I think that's brutal,01:35:20
and on the other hand it also01:35:22
maybe takes a bit of pressure off us that01:35:24
if you have a lawn when you're out and about, you do01:35:26
n't have to panic right away, so01:35:27
you can't destroy nature quickly,01:35:28
so five to Ten percent01:35:31
means you keep 40 percent01:35:33
but if you look at the reality with us, the01:35:37
benefit to me is not, I have01:35:39
no idea, we leave you with five or01:35:42
ten percent, that's the problem, I01:35:44
think there was once a goal01:35:46
in Germany of two percent wilderness01:35:48
we failed miserably at 1.5%, we01:35:51
have to01:35:53
imagine that 98% of the space is01:35:54
used by people in Germany, yes,01:35:56
or01:35:57
98.5% achieved and now we're talking about01:36:00
something after the conference of 30%.01:36:02
So I'm excited, yes, let's01:36:05
just fly the Mercedes now,01:36:12
I wouldn't have a problem with that, yes,01:36:17
conflict with Ukraine, suddenly there's a shortage01:36:19
of grain and then it's01:36:22
released again, the01:36:23
protected areas01:36:24
can actually be cultivated again, it happened in no time, so that's01:36:27
it So I personally think it's a good one,01:36:29
that's a personal opinion, but01:36:30
what we're facing in terms of the Cleaner climate crisis and the01:36:33
biodiversity crisis in combination,01:36:35
I believe that if we01:36:37
talk about the topic in 10 years,01:36:39
we'll be bombarded by it in terms of the global economy I've01:36:43
thrown it on the head that will seem small to us01:36:44
in relation to that, I'm01:36:45
convinced of it, yes, and01:36:47
then they won't do that anymore, yes for completely01:36:49
different reasons, but okay exactly and I01:36:52
'll show you now in practice after I mean,01:36:53
as I said The neighbor is01:36:55
always annoying, he knows the fruit,01:36:57
so of course I try to take a01:37:00
little bit of influence from the drinks around him.01:37:02
He has a hectare of orchard,01:37:03
he has very, very new, that is, he01:37:06
actually bought a green area in the middle of01:37:08
arable landscape or thought01:37:10
there are no fields, no pure fields01:37:13
no more hedges in there, yes, so01:37:15
we do something ourselves, we just bought it, yes,01:37:16
and the same guy whose family01:37:20
in Austria does it, yes, and, um,01:37:23
together we now have around 2001:37:26
fruit trees for old varieties and he's01:37:29
now in the middle now earlier01:37:31
twice more than me once more with01:37:32
the one with such a metrag i.e. more like a01:37:34
small tractor with a bike more01:37:36
quite gentle and the last one standing yes01:37:38
I said that yesterday we should be01:37:40
careful about voles but01:37:42
so far no problem because directly There,01:37:44
maybe you can move it01:37:45
outside the tree line,01:37:48
okay, microphone,01:37:53
just keep the tree disk clear on the young trees,01:37:56
for example, yes, it's01:38:00
not big, you can01:38:02
keep 1/2 meter clear on the left right, then just right,01:38:04
yes, or you have to go around it, for example,01:38:06
maybe it would just be Option we still have to01:38:07
try, yes, that's exactly what we'll01:38:09
test, yes, exactly, but it's coming01:38:11
back into the classic home garden, yes,01:38:14
and now that's01:38:21
part of our meadow, for example, yes, and I'd like to say01:38:25
a few suggestions for the insects01:38:26
DEMAT is what you01:38:27
said a little bit before,01:38:30
so a part of what we do is01:38:32
create unmown areas over the year, whether01:38:35
it's distributed 40 40 or 30 30,01:38:37
I don't think that's relevant or01:38:39
2020 or we just do it that way because01:38:41
we've tried it out We01:38:43
actually tried it out first and then01:38:44
described it, so that's why I did01:38:46
n't have to say that it was 40%. I01:38:49
measured it afterwards. Yes, the second thing01:38:51
is clear. Areas if you mow infrequently,01:38:53
yes then of course there is more,01:38:54
more plants also come into flower01:38:57
depending on how long it is,01:38:58
sometimes it's enough for entire01:39:00
development types from individual01:39:01
species.01:39:03
The measurement technology is clear. I01:39:05
said before that the more you chop up your market well,01:39:08
the more it's too small,01:39:10
of course, for the insects too,01:39:12
you don't have to have studied it To01:39:13
understand that, no, I don't have to01:39:15
be biological and a scythe for me,01:39:17
of course, fewer insects than milk,01:39:18
more of a brush cutter, probably a01:39:21
little more than a set of hands and so01:39:22
on. Yes, you could01:39:24
see in the pictures that it01:39:26
also has a way through01:39:29
the meadow,01:39:32
that's so nice when someone asks01:39:34
what's coming, yes, I'll get there in a moment,01:39:36
I'll get to it in a moment, that's great, yes,01:39:37
next time you do the presentation01:39:39
because you know what's coming01:39:43
I just have fewer animals,01:39:46
also larvae, eggs and so on, yes, and01:39:49
for me it starts when I01:39:50
think about it when I see what what what01:39:53
hedgehogs are often lying around in the fields, which01:39:56
then01:39:58
end up in the leg press or something like that, so it's01:40:00
just me without any problem and 15 cm01:40:04
plus in size yes and if01:40:07
I then say I want to go a01:40:09
little further down aesthetically for some reasons I can01:40:10
still do that but then at least I can see01:40:11
what I'm doing and I also have a hedgehog01:40:13
but I have There are simply a lot more01:40:15
opportunities to get eggs, larvae and so on,01:40:16
but what's in the stems01:40:18
that you may not even see,01:40:20
or have the issue of wasp spiders that are01:40:22
relatively high up, um01:40:25
I'll have the opportunity and no01:40:26
longer that So all the01:40:27
tussocks put the cocoon in the01:40:30
element that wasn't rented in the neighboring meadow,01:40:31
so I had hundreds this year,01:40:34
so that's enough,01:40:36
but we also had more grasshoppers,01:40:39
staggered at exactly the same time, mowing01:40:41
the grasshoppers, so to speak, not everything01:40:42
Once they can also have less01:40:44
mobile animals, it of course makes even more01:40:47
sense if you have a light position in May or in June01:40:49
or July.01:40:50
It is of course much more relevant because01:40:52
I have a lot more caterpillars and and01:40:54
running or beetles on the go than if I did it at the01:40:56
end I'll do it in October, yes, so it's01:40:58
even more important to01:41:00
mow from the inside out, which I01:41:02
think was supposedly mandatory for agriculture. I've01:41:06
never seen it in Bavaria, so01:41:08
I actually say I do01:41:10
n't start on the outside with the wheel and drive01:41:12
Everything is nice and clean on the inside and when01:41:13
everyone is gathered together, free but with the one01:41:14
with the machine over it, yes,01:41:18
I actually start on the inside, that's01:41:20
just from the concept. I don't have to01:41:21
make exactly these patterns. I can also01:41:23
start from one side. What's important is that01:41:24
the animals just be able to fly in a safe direction,01:41:25
yes, and not in a direction01:41:27
where I'll be able to do it again later, no, right now,01:41:29
then it probably won't be possible,01:41:30
yes,01:41:31
and then we have another topic that will01:41:35
come to you straight away01:41:42
Now let's01:41:44
continue with the topic so if I01:41:47
have mowed paths and01:41:49
I have to think about it for a moment, it will be01:41:51
maybe in June or something like that, the grass is01:41:53
n't that high yet and you can see that there are01:41:55
actually paths in there and you01:41:57
have them various advantages that are01:41:58
structured, of course, then well, for01:42:02
some it seems a bit01:42:03
neat, yes, so it looks like it's01:42:05
intended, a lot of it is a lot, let's01:42:07
win, that's not intentional,01:42:08
but we'll look at it later and01:42:09
say it's intentional, but in reality You01:42:10
just have yes and that's01:42:13
ultimately something that you can use to great advantage01:42:15
if you have the garden tour01:42:16
or the children if they are on the go01:42:18
two small children who are eight and01:42:19
ten when they come everywhere01:42:21
that is visible you can01:42:23
communicate it you can use it and,01:42:25
above all, something very important on01:42:27
the paths01:42:29
where you hurt, at01:42:31
some point seams will appear, yes and that, for example, is also01:42:34
wild carrots, that wasn't the big01:42:35
field but actually on the side of the path,01:42:38
yes you just can't get in where01:42:40
you are That's not what you do, yes,01:42:47
I was afraid of the question, how often01:42:49
and where with yes, so the paths we take,01:42:52
wow, I have to think about it now, but do01:42:54
it01:42:55
in the summer months, so I'll say01:42:58
July, August is that dry, I do01:42:59
n't need to do it at all, no We don't do it either.01:43:01
You can see in the01:43:03
picture it's not too short. We do it01:43:05
maybe ten centimeters or something like that.01:43:06
Yes,01:43:07
we do it sometimes with the01:43:09
brush cutter. Yes, you can do it by hand01:43:13
a completely normal01:43:14
petrol lawn mower that you set up all the way up01:43:15
without a mulching function without anything, yes01:43:18
and maybe through and then you01:43:20
actually have the ones you also have01:43:22
losses, that's clear to me, yes,01:43:23
but in a different way you ca01:43:26
n't really manage them well somehow01:43:29
the brush cutter we have a few01:43:31
paths that have already become established,01:43:33
they are pretty close to it anyway, you drive01:43:34
over it more times, there are a few01:43:37
paths just the last time vary01:43:40
in the high degree in the taller grass then01:43:42
the brush cutter or something like that has01:43:43
it It works quite well, but it's relatively01:43:45
small areas, yes,01:43:46
but that's01:43:49
actually a really nice thing and01:43:51
it's really proven itself,01:43:53
especially the dogs don't run01:43:54
in anymore, but we come along in the garden,01:43:57
yes, they used to shoot across old01:44:00
grass and then It doesn't have to be that01:44:02
way, they now find it super comfortable, they01:44:05
only walk on the paths, yes, and01:44:06
then when the dog01:44:07
comes along, there are five wasp spiders on their01:44:09
ears, no,01:44:10
exactly and exactly, we're pretty much at the01:44:16
end and maybe it's like that01:44:21
at the very end01:44:22
Statement I think you01:44:25
can almost summarize it, I think that's not a01:44:27
bad thing, so I once01:44:29
called it care, so organic diversity01:44:31
requires care diversity and I think01:44:34
what I'm doing here now, I do01:44:36
n't think it's important whether I01:44:38
do it like that or something else or a01:44:39
little I don't know once every two years01:44:41
once a year but there are01:44:43
a few principles if I01:44:44
take care of them then it's important that I01:44:46
take different care measures01:44:48
on different areas different01:44:49
care measures mean I get I have01:44:52
different conditions I get01:44:53
different ones Insects in and on01:44:55
different plants and I think01:44:57
the mixture does it and that's why01:44:58
you don't have to worry about 40%, 30%, 20%,01:45:00
I think it's doing it01:45:03
right, yes, so I wouldn't have01:45:05
any doubts about that,01:45:09
okay, so I would be now with the01:45:12
rough end at the end01:45:15
if you want to go straight to the01:45:17
question round, if you want you can01:45:20
look at a lot of the pictures on the website yes you could find01:45:22
Naturgarten angeau.de a01:45:24
lot01:45:26
that sees a bit of the01:45:28
history it sees There are also other01:45:29
biotope elements, there is a lot01:45:31
more than just a meadow, but you01:45:33
saw when you counted the 9001:45:35
percent that find a meadow of01:45:37
insects, that's01:45:39
huge, yes, that's why in the natural garden,01:45:42
so I would create a new one, regardless01:45:44
how much space I have, I would always make01:45:45
sure that I can fit a piece of meadow01:45:46
somewhere like that, no matter whether it01:45:49
's 300 or 3000 square meters, it does01:45:51
n't matter,01:46:02
thank you so much, that means we still have about a01:46:05
quarter of an hour to ask01:46:07
questions, whoever I would like to01:46:10
push forward right away, Gisela01:46:13
asks from the chat. In my opinion, the rosettes of the01:46:15
herbs on the ground need01:46:17
a lot of light for development.01:46:19
I see a lot of grasses in the areas01:46:21
shown. The over-year01:46:23
-old mowing technology presented does not promote the01:46:26
grasses01:46:32
we01:46:34
said at the very beginning, so from my01:46:35
approach we are currently looking less01:46:38
at the plants, we01:46:39
looked a lot at the plants at the very beginning, yes we01:46:41
had the problem or the topic01:46:43
of course the legacy that we started with a01:46:45
pasture grass mixture, it's very01:46:47
clear but it is So01:46:49
in the end we look much more closely at the01:46:52
insects in principle, yes we01:46:54
ultimately look mainly01:46:55
at which insects there are, we01:46:58
simply draw conclusions from insects to the plants01:47:00
yes and it can then01:47:02
be clear that you are somehow01:47:03
neglecting certain herbs there, but with01:47:05
the measures that are in Combination that you01:47:07
open something again, vaccinate me01:47:09
also yes, so we also open up01:47:10
areas again, individual areas, we01:47:12
sometimes also do completely individual01:47:14
area dimensions and smaller areas of the01:47:16
order of magnitude 30 40 cm in diameter,01:47:18
simply yes, completely remove the soil, yes,01:47:20
vaccinate again, what so01:47:23
Not only do we naturally vaccinate over this01:47:25
poor area, but we look at it every01:47:28
now and then and say which herbs01:47:29
we are starting with, for example01:47:31
in the sorrel we have for the01:47:33
Green Office, so we01:47:38
actually go into the meadow and have01:47:40
a look there a few places are01:47:41
open and can't get there, the light01:47:43
can get there, and we can see01:47:45
specific data there, but yes, that's exactly what we're doing,01:47:53
thank you very much for this nice01:47:55
lecture and so that he actually01:47:57
I would say natural garden is more of a01:47:59
slightly underexposed topic I definitely think that the edges01:48:01
and overwintering options01:48:03
in the perennial stems are01:48:05
in the foreground01:48:08
and the view of the01:48:10
animals and the female diversity is a01:48:13
very01:48:14
interesting approach, but I01:48:17
understand that it is so important that there are now these01:48:18
light areas in these 5% areas where you make this cut in July with the01:48:21
other one with shafts without01:48:24
10% areas01:48:25
and it is01:48:27
no longer mowed in autumn or they also go in01:48:29
the same way, that is, two-year-old meadows, as01:48:32
it would actually be the01:48:33
classic, so to speak, on this rather richer soil01:48:35
in order to create a01:48:36
meadow that is as rich in plant species as possible,01:48:38
so to speak, you do01:48:39
n't have anything on the area right now, no, yes, so we01:48:42
'll just look at the01:48:43
insect challenge next year and if someone01:48:46
with a two-year market wins01:48:47
then maybe we can switch some of it over to01:48:48
me Just think,01:48:51
so to speak, in the sense of maintaining diversity,01:48:53
it would perhaps be a nice addition01:48:55
to look at an area that you01:48:58
might be a larger one, what you01:49:01
say, that is something where you might01:49:03
consider us but also maybe again01:49:04
for five or ten percent not than01:49:06
Main as the main corner, so to speak, yes, that's what01:49:08
we already have, we already have such thoughts,01:49:09
we also try01:49:11
something out from time to time, yes, so that will probably happen at some point,01:49:13
but in the experimental,01:49:15
yes, and if something great comes out01:49:17
then of course, then we will We01:49:19
will never implement it on the entire area01:49:20
because this is01:49:22
completely missing from the concept. Yes, who01:49:24
actually has this over-year-old species?01:49:27
Yes, that she says I'll let it01:49:29
stand until at least May next01:49:30
year, otherwise I'll have relatively large ones01:49:32
Losses in humans insect01:49:34
populations and that's01:49:36
a thing you say okay you just do01:49:38
it then patient or something like that yes but01:49:40
have such considerations yes yes but as I01:49:42
said partly yes01:49:44
practical question what kind of01:49:47
brush cutter do you have there and um and and01:49:50
how do you manage the knife01:49:53
so um that01:49:56
's one that's one that's the01:49:58
biggest01:50:03
I tried it with the flex at the beginning with01:50:05
the flex it didn't work01:50:06
optimally I do it with the01:50:08
belt sander screw the belt sander01:50:09
tight and then you can01:50:11
angle relative to it Angle that01:50:13
you want and do the complete it01:50:15
works perfectly01:50:19
good question it won't be that fine01:50:22
200 or something like that I think so01:50:24
according to the paper it was01:50:29
too fine too big yes that's yes that's yes01:50:33
that has to yes I have to so that one It wo01:50:36
n't be a blade, that's clear, yes, because they01:50:38
will become dull extremely quickly01:50:41
if the weather just stays there,01:50:42
yes, so it doesn't quite come to the hand01:50:45
then from the sheep, but that you01:50:48
see it should, so you01:50:49
just see it You can do it until the01:50:51
thing just falls over and the grass does01:50:53
n't get thrown away and it doesn't just01:50:55
go 20 cm around.01:50:56
Yes,01:51:00
it will be read out again briefly from the chat.01:51:01
The garden shown is01:51:06
a special case due to the wide grass mixture sown at the beginning but01:51:08
very exciting to see the biodiversity and01:51:10
development, the use01:51:12
and the presentation are also impressive,01:51:14
thank you very much for the lecture. I01:51:18
would like to be able to leave a fat meadow01:51:20
standing over the year When it comes to01:51:32
mowing, there is also01:51:35
what you have, so to speak, in popular01:51:37
parlance, you could sharpen01:51:39
it01:51:41
with a serrated disc in front of the flex, even if you don't have an intervertebral disc01:51:46
Loudspeaker that only works and the01:51:48
microphone can be heard for the online so that01:51:51
you have in front of the knife that is01:51:53
for thickets and for small ones.01:51:56
Alternatively, there are also01:51:58
double knives for a brush cutter and even01:52:00
cut especially in the area when, let's01:52:02
say, I'm on roads or where there01:52:05
is traffic, I no01:52:07
longer have the stones flying or01:52:09
whatever is in there, I get rid of that01:52:10
because a star is already dangerous so01:52:13
that if you were standing there might01:52:15
also be stones flying around, the01:52:17
roller flying or somewhere else when you It's01:52:19
bad luck, so01:52:21
be careful, so you could do the same thing with01:52:24
someone with a double knife,01:52:26
no problem now,01:52:28
it's better that the blades just rotate01:52:32
against each other and then the01:52:34
stones fly and yes, that would also be a possibility,01:52:46
the microphone doesn't work or01:52:51
I can do it a little more01:52:53
to say on the topic in general yes on01:52:55
the topic Martha so that's not for us01:52:57
either there are better solutions than01:52:58
what we're doing now yes01:53:00
I just don't think there's any that's right that's so01:53:03
you could think of better ones and01:53:05
It's like, in the last I think01:53:08
three months ago, Stil got01:53:10
in touch with me. Don't ask me why,01:53:12
they're somehow they have01:53:14
a group in communication01:53:16
with young people, yes, and they're thinking01:53:18
about the topic of organic diversity, yes01:53:21
say, we have to understand what we01:53:25
can do and have said01:53:26
about the interview, it just01:53:28
came to me via the website, yes, five01:53:30
people talked to five experts, I do01:53:33
n't know how the expert money, but someone01:53:35
talked to five people about it,01:53:36
yes and she was interested in what she was01:53:39
doing so it wasn't about01:53:40
advertising, I said no advertising yes01:53:42
and um yes and ultimately it was01:53:45
also about um01:53:48
ultimately about the devices what01:53:51
whether I have an idea for their01:53:53
product range in general yes what01:53:54
could be improved and say there are two things01:53:56
actually we actually want01:53:57
something like a brush cutter that01:53:59
actually works more like a bike that would actually be really01:54:01
great yes that would be even better than that yes that one01:54:03
but you also need a certain amount of power01:54:04
that too would be one01:54:06
and the second was an idea,01:54:08
maybe implement it,01:54:09
I hope I get01:54:12
feedback from them again or in the next six months and they said01:54:14
you have the topic, you01:54:16
actually have certain weapons in a certain way01:54:19
already on offer so01:54:21
something like leaf blowers, leaf vacuums,01:54:23
chainsaws and so on01:54:36
If the thing falls apart,01:54:37
call for repairs, yes, but if01:54:40
you also have a part that01:54:41
actually concerns biodiversity01:54:44
then activities there might01:54:45
make sense and what doesn't make sense01:54:47
what I should do and have done with01:54:49
the device from this aspect Yes, and they01:54:52
thought that was really good. I'm01:54:54
excited to see if something will come along. Yes, that would01:54:59
be great. Yes, the new01:55:02
operating instructions. Thank you01:55:05
one next to the broom In01:55:23
the lecture, I was01:55:25
also very happy that01:55:26
the hedgehog was also taken into consideration during the care measures.01:55:28
Unfortunately, it had almost01:55:31
made it onto the red list. Thank you with01:55:33
an exclamation mark, thank you back01:55:47
This year we have four tours with the01:55:49
adult education center in Ulm. I can find one on the01:55:52
website but also outside of the dates:01:55:54
one in June, May, June, July01:55:58
and one in September01:55:59
and we also do one outside01:56:02
when a few people get together or there01:56:03
is a group another two01:56:05
three larger tours from clubs01:56:07
and things like that01:56:08
we always do a little 1501:56:10
is quite good because you can01:56:12
explain something and we do the tours so01:56:13
yes the tour takes about two hours01:56:16
through the garden is not too short of a view01:56:18
of the garden It looks01:56:20
a little different every season. We01:56:22
also have pictures with us on the iPad01:56:23
and that means you can see exactly01:56:24
where you are now and01:56:25
see what it looks like01:56:28
if you do that in May, for example01:56:29
What does it look like in September01:56:30
or the animals that are still01:56:33
flying until the end of April or01:56:36
something like that or if you have mason bees01:56:37
that are very early, the settlement is01:56:39
no longer there in September, but you can01:56:41
still show how things are going with the nesting aids01:56:43
or01:56:45
On the other hand, the grasshoppers, who01:56:47
are out and about a lot more in September,01:56:48
are in the white or not much of it anymore,01:56:52
so we'll do that again,01:56:57
thank you very much. How can you01:56:59
perhaps bring this concept even01:57:01
more into the landscape in01:57:03
agriculture in the01:57:04
future? Farmers in each01:57:07
municipality have an area that is01:57:10
actually a nature conservation concept that01:57:12
you can implement, how can you bring it into01:57:13
larger areas,01:57:17
so I see that I actually01:57:20
only see the possibility of doing it on a01:57:22
political level It01:57:24
's simply like that, so a01:57:27
farmer now becomes Adi concepts. There are01:57:29
n't all of my concepts, for example01:57:30
this argument, this study from 2009, which has been around01:57:32
since 2009 and every farmer who is01:57:34
interested has the opportunity01:57:36
to read the study, but we still01:57:39
have it There's actually a farmer who01:57:41
does that, so I know one who lets01:57:43
it totally try, yes, but01:57:45
the problem is, of course, you, we're01:57:48
talking a lot of grassland, yes where01:57:51
I live now, we have a lot of01:57:53
corn fields and stuff like that in01:57:55
corn fields almost don't use it01:57:56
no, well there is already there you01:58:00
already need there you already need a kilometer01:58:04
so that's that it's a difficult01:58:07
road yes the farmers will do that01:58:10
where they get money for it yes01:58:12
they have to live from it that's a01:58:14
problem yes01:58:22
nice would it be yes I'm disappearing01:58:24
for that yes01:58:31
I just wanted to say something okay01:58:35
you said it used to be a corn field01:58:37
yes did you have legal problems with01:58:40
the change of use no01:58:45
I would have solved them01:58:49
me comments and once01:58:52
maybe again about the corn field01:58:54
I think so It is actually an advantage01:58:57
that it was a corn field because there is01:59:00
little humus in the field and over the01:59:03
years the humus under the meadow01:59:06
is essentially enriched and as a result01:59:08
a lot of nutrients are bound, which01:59:11
is actually good for maintaining such a01:59:14
species-rich meadow If you01:59:16
had had grassland before, you would01:59:17
probably have had more problems there.01:59:19
Yes, it's hard to say. My son01:59:22
is such a maize field, of course, sometimes it01:59:23
takes over completely. Yes,01:59:26
they are usually fertilized relatively quickly and without end, and of01:59:29
course I usually saw my foreign plant in the maize field01:59:32
Can you01:59:34
imagine how many pesticides01:59:35
are in there? Well, I mean, it breaks01:59:37
down over time, but what01:59:39
you still find fascinating is that you've01:59:41
seen the pictures and ten years of what's01:59:42
happening there, that's crazy, but you01:59:44
still say the initial mistakes01:59:47
So when I say I don't have everything, I01:59:49
'm not 1000% dissatisfied with the pasture grass mixture,01:59:51
but maybe around 50.01:59:54
Yes, they would have done some things differently,01:59:55
but what's important is simply this01:59:57
variety there too, so we01:59:59
now have a large area with a02:00:04
grass mixture but we02:00:06
have to take a look on the website, the02:00:08
meadow is not the only biotope02:00:09
element, not the only habitat02:00:10
there, yes, we have a lot of other02:00:16
pools, huge, yes, where there are dragonflies and02:00:20
all sorts of things in there, where they02:00:21
can dry out from time to time, yes, what else is actually02:00:23
very rare02:00:25
The second thing is that02:00:28
from this year onwards there will be funding for farmers02:00:30
for this double knife technology.02:00:33
The farms will receive02:00:35
around €200 per hectare if they02:00:39
use it all year round on contracted land02:00:42
and the second thing is that if02:00:45
they use one percent of their Grassland areas should02:00:48
only be mowed after the first of September02:00:51
so that they then02:00:53
receive funding again, so the02:00:54
possibilities are there. I think there02:00:57
simply needs to be advertising so that02:00:58
they can find out about it and also be02:01:01
able to use it, but we still see that02:01:03
we are talking about one percent02:01:07
Percent of an area that only02:01:09
makes up a few percent anyway, that means we're02:01:10
ultimately talking about it when you02:01:12
look at it globally and you think you have02:01:14
this topic, you have these species protection agreements with 30 percent, so02:01:17
we're really talking about nothing ourselves and02:01:20
ourselves and no longer achieving anything Actually, yes, because there are a02:01:22
thousand reasons why the02:01:24
agricultural sector prefers not to take advantage of the claim02:01:25
because02:01:27
somehow he bought it with no idea. He02:01:30
certainly doesn't do that and buys02:01:31
a double-blade mower for no02:01:33
idea in the order of 10,000 euros.02:01:36
Yes, I think you should02:01:38
The farmers are still trying to explain the02:01:41
funding options,02:01:42
so we're doing02:01:44
a demonstration in the summer with this02:01:46
double knife beam where a farmer has02:01:49
just bought it,02:01:51
but also has 50 hectares of contracted nature conservation,02:01:53
can use it and then it's worth02:01:55
it again For this02:01:56
company in particular,02:01:58
of course we don't do it in our natural garden,02:01:59
but in Schattwald where I told you before,02:02:01
the double-blade mower, yes, that02:02:03
's enough for the whole village02:02:05
to say about it, it works at the back and02:02:06
the front, it's such crap and I'm02:02:08
going along with it everyone a bet on a02:02:10
case of beer that guarantees 10 from the02:02:12
farmers who are now screaming a few02:02:14
years better I got double what02:02:16
yes I will something easy so02:02:19
not only because of the insects but it02:02:20
requires less fuel I have I02:02:21
need less wear and tear I have a02:02:23
lot of advantages and manage it yes if02:02:25
you fly drum knives it's a lot of02:02:29
work to take the thing apart yes02:02:30
if I02:02:33
have to bring a double knife biken to02:02:36
where you bought it 40 € for the02:02:39
complete sharpening yes it's02:02:41
ridiculous so there is many02:02:43
advantages but they know the old02:02:45
beams more from before 1970, they know those who02:02:48
only had a rigid level02:02:50
and a movable02:02:52
knife, yes, of course it was slow and the02:02:54
slower you are, the easier it is for02:02:56
something to get jammed, yes and then02:02:59
you have you things are clear, that's02:03:01
not the same as more, yes, so that's02:03:02
relative02:03:05
materials between02:03:07
exactly but I think it's good in principle, for02:03:09
me personally it's just too little this02:03:11
one percent yes but better than nothing02:03:13
clear02:03:19
exactly02:03:21
okay we should get through the questions02:03:24
This time we didn't stay for 202:03:26
minutes. Yesterday we stayed for a02:03:27
quarter of an hour and with a02:03:28
small group we were there for another02:03:30
half hour longer02:03:37
Stickers if02:03:40
you want to take them with you as a reminder, you02:03:42
can take a look at them, we ourselves02:03:45
also have any experiences, you can02:03:47
also write to me, yes, so the contact02:03:49
is on the website02:03:51
or if you have a question, I'll try out a02:03:54
lot of things, just yes or if02:03:56
someone does too A suggestion for improvement02:03:57
said I had a completely different02:03:58
experience, which is also02:04:00
interesting to know because not everyone02:04:02
has the same situation as02:04:05
mine, it's something very special,02:04:06
that's clear, yes you can't02:04:08
transfer everything one to one but the02:04:09
principles are a bit the02:04:10
same02:04:13
okay then thank you very much for02:04:15
listening yes when really great audience02:04:17
I found02:04:21
the garden because how many people work02:04:23
in the garden my02:04:27
wife and I and and the children if they feel like it02:04:30
so if you like that02:04:32
can motivate a little bit02:04:34
so02:04:39
there are several hundred so I02:04:42
have to say that a lot of things in the02:04:45
garden are no longer the main work02:04:47
of making a website or02:04:49
communication that is probably02:04:50
almost more yes Audi counting insects02:04:53
that was just 200 hours or something like that02:04:55
Yes, but it was just the two of them doing the02:04:57
laundry for the second hour. Otherwise they02:04:58
just sat outside with a beer or a wine.02:05:01
As I said, they02:05:02
took their camera with them.02:05:04
You had to build in a routine like that.02:05:06
Um, but that's okay. So it's like that,02:05:09
I used to be there too On vacation,02:05:10
somehow, yes, but that's what02:05:13
we actually02:05:20
visited in detail, that's not different02:05:22
vegetation and that you can also travel with the02:05:24
camera, yesDescription:
Der Workshop vermittelt Erkenntnisse aus der Wiesenpflege mit verschiedenen Mähzeitpunkten und insektenschonenden Mähtechniken. Welche Pflegemaßnahmen erscheinen sinnvoll, welche sind möglicherweise als Aktionismus zu werten? Oliver Zwirner, sein Beruf Wirtschaftsingenieur, seine Berufung die Natur. Dabei zählen für ihn vor allem messbare Erfolge für die Artenvielfalt. Seit über 10 Jahren arbeitet er mit seiner Familie an einen großen, mehrfach prämierten Naturgarten (www.naturgarten-langenau.de), D-Langenau.
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