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you are under arrest you have lost00:00:23
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so I says to Jim Jim stop stealing our00:00:30
[ __ ] ideas if I see one more of our00:00:32
ideas on the Jim position I'm gonna00:00:34
[ __ ] sue you I think we gave him that00:00:36
idea but you know whatever00:00:39
Andrew Wilson again Andy go yeah yeah00:00:50
yeah good idea00:00:53
I think I'll allow it done that was good00:00:59
old Andy Wilson everyone we've got news00:01:01
big news looks like there will be no00:01:03
more power ups in loot boxes well well00:01:14
here we are we're back ladies and00:01:17
gentlemen thank you for joining us today00:01:18
we know we are three like three days00:01:21
late on this news we know that and we00:01:22
appreciate you tuning in but it's pretty00:01:26
momentous news and we feel obligated to00:01:28
cover it it's not really sloppy seconds00:01:30
it's more like sloppy sevenths about00:01:32
this point yeah but that's okay because00:01:33
you come here anyway00:01:35
for the lulz and just to hang out with00:01:36
us the the ongoing saga the shitstorm00:01:39
that is Star Wars Battlefront -00:01:41
continues to plague EA forever and ever00:01:44
really it all started back with the00:01:45
release of Star Wars Battlefront 1 back00:01:47
in 2015 now this was a game that00:01:49
everyone thought looked fantastic and00:01:51
everyone's really excited about but it00:01:52
turned out to be this awful dlc00:01:54
shitstorm where you basically got like00:01:56
one fifth of the game for paying $60 and00:02:00
then you need to pay nasty dollars to00:02:02
unlock the rest of it and not to mention00:02:03
the live game itself was so base it was00:02:05
very wonder which it was worse than the00:02:07
original Star Wars Battlefront yeah so00:02:09
then at e3 in 201700:02:14
27:17 we were in the audience a play we00:02:17
were still allowed in at that time and00:02:19
they invade Star Wars Battlefront - it00:02:21
looked great00:02:22
and they made a very big deal of saying00:02:24
that they've heard the what was it and00:02:26
we got a lot of feedback a lot of it00:02:29
positive and a bunch of it constructive00:02:33
that's a euphemism for not as positive00:02:37
[Music]00:02:41
and that EA promised that they would00:02:44
deliver us a really fair deal when it00:02:45
came to Star Wars Battlefront 2 and then00:02:47
we could expect it to have no paid DLC00:02:50
whatsoever that's right and then they00:02:51
just finish the sentence right there and00:02:54
we were like in the audience go okay00:02:55
well looks like this is gonna be back on00:02:57
track we are actually stupidly trusted00:03:00
we did well I'm thinking about making a00:03:02
video back then called good guy EA like00:03:04
EA or on drag on down I really thank God00:03:07
I didn't cuz I'd have to be taking that00:03:08
one down my channel if I did that00:03:11
because obviously it turned out that the00:03:12
Star Wars Battlefront 2 was the ultimate00:03:14
historic gambling simulator [ __ ] pay00:03:17
two in cash grab of the century discover00:03:20
the perfect business people sworn in00:03:22
empty their pockets and schedule off00:03:24
nothing can stop me now00:03:26
so bad in fact that it actually00:03:28
supported Ledger's the response from our00:03:30
mate Chris Lee and the number of other00:03:32
legislators around the world who started00:03:33
taking note of loot boxes saying that00:03:35
absolutely this is a form of simulated00:03:37
gambling they totally took the piss with00:03:39
Star Wars Battlefront 2 the whole pride00:03:42
and accomplishment thing being the most00:03:43
downloaded posting ready you see Vader00:03:45
we all wanted to see pink Vader they00:03:47
will do that here that's another mistake00:03:48
of this I must say though I am into00:03:50
eternally grateful to eletronic guy00:03:52
because without stars Battlefront 2 we00:03:54
would not have a channel would not have00:03:56
our channel we wouldn't be here it00:03:57
allowed us to just touch the world I00:04:00
feel like we should have a little00:04:01
picture of Andrew Wilson in our00:04:02
background wallet incense burning around00:04:05
it every day every single day because we00:04:07
we are indebted determination00:04:10
[Music]00:04:12
so obviously what happened from the00:04:15
backlash the ei guys they took down all00:04:17
of the loot boxes in cellars battlefront00:04:19
when the game launched they disabled all00:04:20
the microtransactions and they said we00:04:23
understand this problematic we didn't00:04:24
quite hit the mark it wasn't our00:04:25
intention of course we didn't hit the00:04:27
mark so we're going to disable we got to00:04:29
come back later with a revised00:04:30
progression model and with a different00:04:32
approach to monetization I thought when00:04:35
they said that when they when they said00:04:36
that they are coming back we were just00:04:38
gonna see the same crap I remember me00:04:40
and Ralph for actually speaking before00:04:41
Christmas and more like any bet they00:04:43
dropped them in just in the middle of00:04:45
that break everyone's gone on holidays00:04:48
everyone's having a good time not so00:04:49
many people are gonna be covering the00:04:51
news but we're wrong we were wrong but I00:04:53
mean when I say this I think it's a step00:04:56
forward it's a step forward yeah dice00:04:59
have announced if there's gonna be a new00:05:00
progression model coming to Star Wars00:05:02
Battlefront and it does offer some00:05:03
significant changes versus what we've00:05:05
seen in the past first of all with this00:05:06
update progression is now linear so the00:05:08
problem with progression in Star Wars00:05:10
Battlefront 2 earlier was a resolve very00:05:12
chance space all you unlocked loot boxes00:05:15
after playing for a certain time and the00:05:17
loot boxes contained cards those cars00:05:19
what made you more powerful and you00:05:21
could luck out and get the car that you00:05:23
wanted or you could not and then just00:05:25
have to keep grinding away for literally00:05:27
hundreds of hours to eventually unlock00:05:29
cars over ty it was a real [ __ ]00:05:31
it was just a terrible system and so00:05:33
this gets rid of it now basically it00:05:35
means that when you are playing you will00:05:37
unlock experience the experience will00:05:39
give you access to skill points and the00:05:41
skill points allow you to purchase the00:05:43
star cards that you want or upgrade the00:05:45
star cards that you want just like every00:05:48
other video game ever00:05:49
pretty much shock horror ea figured out00:05:51
that people like old like progression00:05:53
systems that have worked for the last00:05:55
million years and there's no need to00:05:56
mess with it back to the future again00:05:58
back to the future another thing is00:05:59
everything that you've earned you keep00:06:01
so it doesn't matter if now they've made00:06:02
these huge changes everything that00:06:04
you've already you know all that time00:06:05
you've grinded all that hundreds of00:06:07
dollars you spend yes it's still it's00:06:09
still fine so that I think that's good00:06:11
because I think a lot of you know it00:06:12
could have easily been a situation where00:06:14
they completely revamped theater and it00:06:16
was so revamped that they had to kind of00:06:18
go well the old system now is no longer00:06:20
applicable to what we're doing so00:06:23
a lot of people would have been pierced00:06:24
it yeah that did happen you'd imagine if00:06:26
you spend $100 on loot crate's and00:06:29
you're just saying then after with della00:06:30
another race in the system no give it00:06:36
back00:06:38
now the big news here and the the last00:06:40
bit is that the loot crate's remain00:06:42
there are still loot crate's however00:06:44
they cannot be purchased with real money00:06:47
they will only contain credits and00:06:50
cosmetic items and the credits will be00:06:53
used to purchase the cosmetic items00:06:55
credits will do fine so the whole00:06:58
economy is being shifted around here you00:06:59
are no longer able to purchase any loot00:07:01
boxes there's no more purchasing of00:07:03
random chance items in Star Wars00:07:05
Battlefront 2 now they're adding a shop00:07:07
which allows you to purchase cosmetic00:07:09
items we don't know what the cosmetic00:07:11
items are yet but they're gonna be00:07:12
different outfits and I'm sure there's00:07:14
gonna be different colored lightsaber00:07:15
things you know purple lightsaber00:07:17
whatever pink Darth Vader I'm sure we00:07:19
can expect please do that cuz if it was00:07:22
$99 I probably would survive I totally00:07:25
would I mean if they just embrace that00:07:27
as a meme it would be like so good for00:07:29
their branding I knew it is so good yeah00:07:31
and the name could be like if this00:07:33
really this is really what you want this00:07:39
is what you really you know this is00:07:42
that's it I mean and so so we've got a00:07:44
cosmetic shop now with you purchase00:07:45
exactly what you want no chance items00:07:47
we've got no more paid loot boxes we've00:07:49
got a progression system that's based on00:07:50
playing the game rather than being lucky00:07:52
enough to unlock your harder you want00:07:53
out of look it really is everything that00:07:56
we asked for pretty much yes I think00:07:59
there's still one or two things that are00:08:01
worth talking about though it is still a00:08:03
situation where if you put hundreds of00:08:05
hours into this game you are a lot more00:08:07
powerful than people who've only put a00:08:09
small amount of time in yeah so it is an00:08:10
advantage in a multiplayer game like00:08:12
this that comes from grinding really00:08:15
hard which I personally don't like but00:08:18
it's a very rkd sort of shooter I don't00:08:20
really care that much I think it depends00:08:22
though because if the matchmaking is00:08:24
working effectively then ultimately you00:08:27
should be paired up against people that00:08:29
have similar skills now I know that00:08:30
early internet connection is always what00:08:33
Trump's how powerful you are compared to00:08:36
other right and that might take precedence00:08:38
many times but if we find ourselves in a00:08:40
situation where you're a certain power00:08:42
all the other people are similar power00:08:44
then it kind of cancels out this whole00:08:47
if the matter kind of cancel it does it00:08:50
if the matchmaking system works if the00:08:51
system works as intended shouldn't be a00:08:53
big deal so that's that's one thing but00:08:54
but overall we've got a we've got to00:08:56
call it we've got to say that this is00:08:58
exactly what we wanted from this update00:09:00
we can't [ __ ] all over ei for this00:09:02
because they've literally just got you00:09:04
want all this here's all of this had00:09:06
ever seen are you happy laymen are you00:09:07
how you happy now what do you want what00:09:11
do you want and I think it actually sets00:09:14
hopefully a really great precedent00:09:15
moving forward number one now I think00:09:18
the consumer will understand that they00:09:19
do have a very powerful voice definitely00:09:22
differently number two I think it's also00:09:24
a precedent of our other games now going00:09:27
to be coming out a lot more conscious of00:09:29
you know the way in which EA has now00:09:32
kind of changed its tune completely00:09:34
that's already happening I mean it is00:09:36
already happening don't get me wrong I'm00:09:37
but in terms of are we gonna now see00:09:40
more and more games coming out or more00:09:41
and more games revamp their loot box00:09:43
systems to make sure that the consumer00:09:46
is happy first and then the money is00:09:48
made second you know because I think00:09:49
that's the only way to really make a00:09:52
game last foe because this this game00:09:54
itself is strong enough in terms of00:09:55
mechanically to easily last five years00:09:58
maybe you know I'm saying like it's a00:10:01
very good game so you get that if you00:10:03
get the consumer onside then there's no00:10:05
there's no reason why this game wouldn't00:10:07
be extremely successful going forward I00:10:09
look you know as I said I personally00:10:11
hope that it is I like dice as a studio00:10:14
and I like Star Wars and it would make00:10:16
me happy if there was a good Star Wars00:10:18
game out there that I could enjoy and I00:10:19
did I reviewed Star Wars Battlefront 2 I00:10:21
said it was a good game except for the00:10:23
fact that it was completely unpurchased00:10:25
able because of its microtransaction00:10:27
economy this is an improvement now the00:10:29
counter to all of this of course is that00:10:30
it's too little too late and there's an00:10:32
honest-to-goodness truth to that you00:10:33
know like it's like I would totally00:10:35
understand if someone said [ __ ] this00:10:37
game there's too much bad bad water00:10:39
under the bridge I'm not interested will00:10:42
never trust EA again I think that's a00:10:44
perfectly reasonable perspective on that00:10:46
and on top of that I think also the hype00:10:48
is slightly gone it's been a00:10:50
you know because so many people were00:10:51
turned away it's hard now to get people00:10:53
to just come back and and and play this00:10:56
game when it's just there's so much00:10:59
damage that's been done the hype is gone00:11:01
and a lot of people like well I was00:11:04
excited about the game when it came out00:11:06
I played a few rounds of it then I heard00:11:07
the back of the publicity and I just00:11:09
moved on yeah you know so I over whammy00:11:12
here I think you know it's gonna be00:11:14
difficult to actually get people to come00:11:15
back to this game so the last point is00:11:17
just around the idea that cosmetics are00:11:18
being charged for and you know we used00:11:21
to get that for free in video games is00:11:23
it a case of that we should feel is the00:11:25
case of you know it should be free here00:11:27
in this instance as well I mean I'm00:11:29
really torn on that it is a full price00:11:30
$60 game I don't like the idea that they00:11:33
charge me for anything at all after that00:11:34
point but I also understand that that's00:11:36
the reality of it EA has shareholders00:11:38
this is how large-scale publishers work00:11:40
this is that this is how it is these00:11:41
days you know and they're not gonna00:11:43
change tune on this because it's really00:11:44
just an established part of the video00:11:46
game business model at this point so I00:11:48
don't like it personally but I mean I00:11:50
don't really care about how my Star Wars00:11:51
character looks but I'm lying anyway so00:11:53
it doesn't bother me that much but I do00:11:55
also understand what the perspective00:11:56
that people don't who don't like it00:11:57
having cosmetics of course that you have00:11:59
to pay for is it is it is a pain the ass00:12:01
no one really loved that idea but given00:12:04
how far we've come with this news in the00:12:06
last couple of days I would say that I00:12:09
am at least happy with the progress for00:12:11
now with this game in the future I would00:12:14
like to see you know cosmetics not00:12:15
really in any games that you ate in00:12:18
terms of having to pay for them that's00:12:19
never gonna happen00:12:20
maybe that's never gonna happen but if00:12:21
we're moving now in this direction I'm00:12:24
happy with this for now I think this is00:12:25
still a triumph so some people will00:12:27
student sit there in the audience go00:12:28
know are still having to pay for00:12:29
cosmetics but like I think we still have00:12:32
to take victories when we see them and00:12:33
go you know what this is still a very00:12:35
very good move movement forward00:12:38
especially from EA it's a huge publisher00:12:40
so a lot of people are gonna be looking00:12:42
to them and seeing what they're doing so00:12:44
I think yes it sucks that we're still00:12:45
paying for cosmetics but it's too much00:12:47
of a win today to focus on that in might00:12:49
be I think it's important to forgive but00:12:51
never forget yes it's gonna take a long00:12:53
time until I'm willing to trust EA again00:12:56
as a company I'm always gonna very00:12:58
carefully watching them yeah and their00:13:00
motivations but it's a step in the right00:13:02
direction it's going00:13:03
a lot of changes a lot of years and00:13:04
probably a new CEO but again you see if00:13:08
we have someone else that isn't the00:13:10
t1000 then we'll probably you know it'll00:13:13
end up people might might end up liking00:13:16
ei do you think that now that Star Wars00:13:18
Battlefront 2 isn't some course or00:13:20
gigantic scam that our channel is dead00:13:23
holy [ __ ] there's no Star Wars00:13:26
Battlefront on EA to rip on what I do00:13:29
what do we do we00:13:35
[Music]Description:
It has finally come.. the day Laymen can report that EA has given up on loot boxes in Star wars battlefront 2! What is the futuTwitter: @laymengaming == The Laymen Stayed Awake During The New Tomb Raider Movie (Barely) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stPqB-MFyY8&t=230s The Balls On This Guy Continue to Astound... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg9Ql... Microsoft Call Out Sony On Their Latest Anti-Consumer Move https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWquL... When An Update Generates No Hype, Your Game Is Dead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgyZb... Yet Another Senior Bioware Dev Abandons Anthem Ship (Time to Panic) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aRWd... Why A Lot Of People Are Already Worried About The Division 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLFcU... Sony Bans 'Worst Game Ever Made' Game From PSN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFDbN... CNN Thinks VR Games Make Us Better Killers IRL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYN3V... Devs Now Calling Anti-Lootbox Initiatives 'Censorship' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3tbe... New Lootbox Ratings System Is A Complete Sham https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c99Pl... AAA Games Lobbyist Destroyed In Public Hearing On Loot Boxes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frmmk... Politicians Want To Tax Violent Games To Stop Mass Shootings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgjkGLJKcBk re now of SWBF2? We discuss.
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