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Tarbushna, tonight, August 29,
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Tuesday and tonight there will be
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pasta, and in every sense and in the sense of
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noodles in the ears not from me and in the sense of
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bought by traitors in the fog of war,
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Polish pasta at the price of the best
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Italian pasta is only twice as expensive But
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I will start from the other end, and many of you
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probably do not know, but in the context of conversations
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about the need to mercilessly fight
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corruption, to equate it with
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treason in wartime and to cut off everyone's hands,
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somehow one
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interesting point remains, it is that several of the
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most influential people in the country, according to the current
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laws, in fact, cannot be held
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accountable for
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corruption and investigate their activities.
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These are the officials of the President's office,
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where the idea to equate corruption
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with treason was born. Head of the office Andriy Yarmak and
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all his deputies.
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Shuruma and others at
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their address. Similarly, there are suspicions and
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accusations that they are the beneficiaries of the
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largest and most daring turnovers
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and schemes, but the
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anti-corruption authorities cannot actually investigate them, for
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example, that is why the journalists told that until
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this summer, the solar power plant
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co-owned by the close entourage of
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Deputy Andriy Yarmak the former
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manager of Akhmetov Rostyslav Shurma
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received money from the state budget under the
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green tariff, despite the fact that they were under
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Russian occupation on the territory of the
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Zaporizhzhia region and probably had no
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connection with the Ukrainian energy system,
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that is, they were not paid for air,
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but metaphorically, under the sun, another
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deputy chairman was patronized Tymoshenko
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was accused of complicity with the
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humanitarian worker during the invasion of processing,
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they even tried to untangle the
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anti-corruption bodies, you all probably
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remember the scandals in Zaporizhzhia, Rivne a
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year ago when the
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humanitarian worker Nabu and the SBU came to check the humanitarian worker and the SBU did
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not succeed in untangling them, in particular because humanitarian
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aid was actually at that time
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documents were not accounted for and there were no reports.
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Because who distributed what and how, and
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why did the humanitarian woman appear on the shelves
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of stores, and the residents of Zaporozhye
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complained that they did not see the humanitarian woman in their eyes. It
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is possible to establish, except through
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indirect evidence, what probably
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happened.
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of corruption said that
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in August of last year, during the search of
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the apartment that the secretary of the Zaporozhye
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city council, Anatoliy Kurtev, rented
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together with his assistant, nabu detectives
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found and seized almost 600 thousand
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hryvnias, $230,000 and €650.
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They constantly worked hard to find evidence of the
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illegal appropriation of the humanitarian woman by the top
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officials of the Zaporizhia region, but
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now they have already drawn up a protocol on what is
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considered to be evidence of the illegal
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enrichment of Kurtev by more than UAH 9 million, and
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despite everything, it continues to
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work for the benefit of Zaporizhia Kyrylo
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Tymoshenko.
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who were also close to all these officials of
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Zaporizhzhia, some of whom shortly after the
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scandalous searches According to the good
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Ukrainian tradition, they simply released
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no treason in this open
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who did not see after a series of scandals with a
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humanitarian woman with an appropriated Chevrolet
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Tahoe with a move to the country estate of the
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largest developer with riding on a
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new Porsche through the streets of the belligerent Kyiv
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soon and the deputy of Andriy Yarmak
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Kyrylo Tymoshenko himself quietly wrote a statement
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and I have the honor According to the good Ukrainian
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tradition, he was fired from the office of the president a
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month ago after monitoring
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his lifestyle, Tymoshenko was also issued a protocol
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for abuse of office, for example, a war
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form in his subordinate's permission to
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leave for the border was allegedly on a business trip
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during the war, but in fact he sent a
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subordinate to settle personal issues with the
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visas of Tymoshenko and his son, in addition to these
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names, it was written in the protocol that Tymoshenko miraculously lived for free in the
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year of the invasion
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in one of the
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most expensive hotels in the Lviv region, it was
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such an Emily Resort was very
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popular among Ukrainian officials
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in the first months of the invasion, when many of
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them left Kyiv and spent the
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first weeks there, the owner of the hotel, Lviv
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businessman and deputy Hryhoriy Kozlovskyi,
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whatever you call him, a patron of authority in the
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criminal world, our
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officials of the Council used and possibly
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still use the hospitality of
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Kozlovsky wings Lablenovych Tymoshenko
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made money there for free in the hotel. Last
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year, at least three times for 45,000 UAH for the
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administrative protocol, a fine and the prospect of being
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entered into the register of corrupt persons, besides
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Kyril Tymoshenko, he has the honor of
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staying in the Kozlovsky hotel at the time at the beginning of
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the invasion, for example, another deputy of
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Andriy Yarmak, Andriy Smirnov, who oversees the
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office of the president the judicial system
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was told about this by Kozlovsky himself. Last year there were
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thousands of refugees here. He is not a simple person. He
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is the deputy head of the president's office.
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If I were here. Believe me, there were many
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difficult people here. the
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head of Smirnov's office is also
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checking whether he paid for his
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stay in the hotel of an ambiguous
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businessman, but later all these news, by
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some miracle of snakes, learned about
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another deputy of Andriy Yarmak, Oleg
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Tatarov, and he was buried in the bowels of the SBU
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corruption case.
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we
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did a couple of weeks ago on the third anniversary of the
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appointment of the scandalous Oleg Tatarov to the
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office of the president. Here it is in the volume
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under the video. Look how it was and how we
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got to the point where the suspect of
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corruption is writing to the president.
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the story
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that the President calls for strengthening the
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fight against corruption, equating it with
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treason, is that
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anti-corruption bodies cannot deal with all the functions of the President's office, this
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happened after Zelenskyy
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renamed the Presidential Administration into the
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Office of the President and All of them formally
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fell out of the library of those categories of
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officials whose cases can be
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investigated by the national anti-corruption
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bureau and the specialized anti-corruption
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prosecutor's office, so even if there
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are cases and investigations against some of them,
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they will be introduced by other more
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loyal law enforcement agencies close to and understandable to the president's office.
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They can actually get to the top officials of Op nabu and sap only through corruption
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investigations on other characters
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after proving their complicity and some such
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cases are As far as I know, this is the case. In order to
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strengthen the fight against corruption, it
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seems to me that it would be more honest and correct not to
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invent the wheel of treason but
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to correct this artificially created loophole in
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the legislation, but instead the office of
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the president and these same People in it
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propose to equate corruption with
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treason because of this initiative
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proposed by the officials of the
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president's office and voiced by the president,
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a scandal has already arisen, because in fact, in practice,
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the GDP came up with the idea of ​​taking away from the national
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anti-corruption bureau cases where it is advisable to
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give more than UAH 24 million to the
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Security Service yesterday, my sources in the
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anti-corruption authorities. They told me that
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80% of the anti-corruption
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investigations they conduct fall into this category, and in the
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version of the draft law written in the opp,
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which is currently being discussed, all these cases will
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be able to take 100% of their cases
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to the nabu and hand them over to
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the SBU, where these days the president has appointed a
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new one. deputy Vasyl the kid, and
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it may not be a coincidence that this coincided in time,
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which means that in the investigation of
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corruption crimes committed by some
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people who are not indifferent to the office of the president, they
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can be at least classified as a
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maximum, and in my subjective
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opinion, this bill
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was written in office of the president and
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sold by the president, and the president sold
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him to Mosiychuk Marathon and millions of
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Ukrainians, although all this is actually
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nothing more than preparation for hiding
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under the cover of a secret investigation that
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showed in society on what scale
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and what people committed the
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treason that the president says about What were
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their names on the fact that the country
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faced extraordinary challenges and how someone
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decided to use the moment of chaos
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and the fog of war to fill the pockets of such
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investigations will be increasingly larger as
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these threads unravel,
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they will obviously be drawn to
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more and more influential people, so it seems to me that
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these cases and they are gathering for secrets,
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now scandal after scandal shakes
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the Ministry of Defense, new and
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new dubious purchases are emerging. Crazy
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figures of what was senselessly spent
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and stolen this year, figures that, in
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Tatarov's version, lead to treason, and so
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far only the Ministry of Defense is
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chained to the greatest attention, because they are stealing
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from the army, which was supposed to be strengthened yesterday, Yuri
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Nikolov told me on the air that behind the
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company that bought the jackets is a person
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connected to Yermak, and also told that
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his colleagues are preparing a new investigation in
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which the
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most influential people from taking into account
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what surnames may be heard next, it
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seems quite clear to me Why such a
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chasm of good people whom I thought were
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smart there now rushed to the defense of
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different person different person who she is at the meeting of the
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Verkhovna Rada, but at this
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anti-corruption committee they defended Denys
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Sharapov, business partner, head of the office of
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the President Andriy Yarmak, and so on such an
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exposure will be carried out by other departments, these
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days preventive measures are being chosen for two
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deputy ministers of agrarian policy
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and the Ministry of Economy for the fact that in March and
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April of last year, shortly after the
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beginning of the invasion, they
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made a lot of money on nabu and sap pasta and
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handed suspicions to the first deputy
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minister of agrarian policy and
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food Taras Vysotskyi and
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ex-Deputy Minister of Economy
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Oleksandr Gerbanov, they are suspected of
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embezzling UAH 62 million, then after
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the invasion they were instructed to carry out the
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government's order to form, so to
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speak, a strategic stockpile of products
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together with the military administrations, and
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according to the version, they strategically
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bought cheap Polish pasta from the necessary offices,
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but the state paid
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62 million for those pastas, as if they were the most expensive Italian ones. On the
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pasta alone and the suspicions handed to them are not
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the last in the case of a 62 million engagement ring in a
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country where everything is controlled by the right people.
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of the conductor, it is a matter of time and the shows of these
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deputies, it is also a matter of time when
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other similar stories will come out and whether
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your brain will be able to cope with the amount that
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will be made up of all these macaroni, jackets,
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unreceived weapons, humanitarian aid,
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electricity and everything else that during the
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war remained in the fog of war because it was
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not in time and nowhere everything was a marathon, so
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my assumption is that this is why this
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story arose with the desire to declare such
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cases as high treason and to hide and
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secret them in the SBU forever, forever, forever,
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out of time.
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publicity about it was already reacted to at the
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event yesterday, my sources said that
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Western ambassadors had already had a
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conversation about this with the Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada,
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Ruslan Stefanchyk, we warned that this
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would be perceived negatively by partners who
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support Ukraine as an attack on
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anti-corruption bodies. I wrote about
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it yesterday in our Telegram, by the way, it’s here,
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sign up, we’re following all of this there, and
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we’re writing today. The ambassadors diplomatically
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informed about it and publicly, and also
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reminded Stefanchuk that it’s time to
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return the electronic declaration and not
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guess the cycle of treason. Besides, the
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idea of ​​handing over corruption crimes to the
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SBU can fly by and in NATO, where do we
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want to go, because in the alliance, services like the
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SBU perform intelligence and
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counter-intelligence functions, and economic
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corruption crimes are not the task of such
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special services, it is only in Ukraine that they
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performed and still perform the function of a
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business nightmare. Representatives of the
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SBU have already publicly spoken negatively about the transfer of this function
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international
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institutions that are financed by Ukraine oppose
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this office idea, and the
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heads of both of these
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anti-corruption agencies are currently on a
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business trip to Washington.
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which
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will make it possible to expunge all of them and put them into
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practice in the version authored by the lawyers of the
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president's office, it will not be possible, but since
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the president has already promised the people to equate
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corruption with treason and cut off
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the hands of something, they will pass something to the parliament
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that could really somehow affect the
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pace of Kraków, it is really possible
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to increase the punishment to 15 years now It
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seems to be a maximum of 12 and the cancellation of
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the possibility to deposit bail for those
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suspected of corruption is possible with such a
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compromise decision We could
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implement the promise that the president had already made
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Although that is not why the mother of the
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GDP flower grew and wrote this law,
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so I skip it instead of restoring it
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declaration, we will see that there are fights in the parliament
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so that OP flies away from nabu and
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Sav with his treason. Well, I
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will return to what I have already said, if the
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president is really determined
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to fight corruption at all levels, let them
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instruct their office to work out changes
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to the laws that would allow nabu and
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to investigate the officials of the president's office himself
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otherwise
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statements about equating top
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corruption with treason look hypocritical the wife is
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Zorya she is certainly beyond suspicion but there is a
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nuance not in our Ukrainian realities
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further further you subscribe to there is a question
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if for some reason you have not done this in the
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description under video Don't forget everything about the
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initiator of the brilliant idea to equate
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corruption with treason, as well as our
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innovations written by people suspected of
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corruption.
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Congratulations Dasha. I have a
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question for you. The more I follow this
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story about the idea of ​​equating corruption with
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treason, the more I analyze
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what they say about it.
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about the fact that in such a
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cynical form under such a beautiful slogan they are
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trying to steamroll us an idea that
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will allow this president to actually be
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classified and closed or merged
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forever all cases that may be
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sensitive for them and given the fact that the
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investigations will continue and
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will have more and more influence stories What
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happened this year the invasion of such
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stories will be more and more what do you think about it
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Well I completely share your opinion
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this is a very dangerous initiative it
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has nothing to do with the real
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tools to fight corruption it
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certainly sounds beautiful I myself sometimes
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say that corruption during war this is
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high treason, but if a law is implemented,
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where the legal language will prescribe
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the formula that the president's office is currently pushing,
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then we can completely forget about the
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effective independent fight against corruption.
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security of Ukraine Contra is
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fully controlled by the president's office and
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can investigate those proceedings that
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should be exclusively investigated by the
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national anti-corruption bureau and
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exclusively the jurisdiction of the legal language is
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called this
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is one of the basic guarantees of the independence of the
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nabu
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exclusively the nabu jurisdiction We have defended it
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many times and this was a condition of
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international partners, in particular the
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international currency fund and the
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European Union, so that we could provide by law
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that the top corruption in Ukraine
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in the list of certain crimes of corruption
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can be investigated exclusively by the
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National Anti-Corruption Bureau and the
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Special Prosecutor's Office, but there have
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actually been many attempts
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to disrupt the investigation and
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we have observed how other bodies,
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in particular the SBU and the National Police, have also been in
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history they
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opened parallel criminal
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proceedings and
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reclassified corruption crimes as
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some kind of fraud
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and in the course of their investigation destroyed
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evidence and closed the criminal
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proceedings in the
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most striking example of such closure,
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i.e. the case.
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judicial
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reform, and I will not be surprised that it is Oleg
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Tatarova who is the author of this initiative,
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but he personally felt how cool it is.
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When can a criminal proceeding be taken away from the NABU, because
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his case, according to the
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decision of the General Prosecutor's Office at the time,
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was
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taken away from the exclusive jurisdiction of the NABU and
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handed over to the Security Service of Ukraine Let me
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remind you that
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Tatarov was already a suspect in the
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corruption case, where they investigated how he
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gave bribes for the construction of
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apartments for the National Guard, where developers
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were supposed to build apartments for National Guard soldiers,
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but
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they received plots of land, but the apartments were
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not built.
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the court, but the
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episode of the murder of Tatarov was closed
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closed, he was the security service of
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Ukraine, and Oleg Tatarov at that time was
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training the investigation, he was already in the
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position of deputy head of the president's office
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even when the case was closed, he
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coordinated the work of law enforcement
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agencies, that is, he had an obvious
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conflict of interests of civilized in countries
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in such cases, a person
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resigns or is simply
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removed from his position.
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Tatarov remained to work in this very
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responsible position, a very valuable staff, and
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here is this very valuable staff. Now he is promoting a
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new brilliant idea to equate corruption
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with treason. But if it is such a brilliant
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idea,
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then the president can be advised to
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start from the release of Tatarov himself, because
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if corruption is treason, then why is a
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traitor in Zelenskyi's office responsible
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for the fight against corruption?
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I just wanted to say that you
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call him a state traitor precisely
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because his story actually now falls
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under what the president himself is proposing. Well,
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yes, corrupt he was
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suspected of a crime an independent body investigated the
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fact of
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bribery was proven
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frauds took place the military did not
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get apartments the
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company got a plot of land the case was in the
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corruption court
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[music]
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but
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Tatarov, who was an important figure there, is
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not behind bars Tatarov
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helps the president fight
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corruption by equating corruption to
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the State Council That is Well, if we compare
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corruption and tyranny, then we start with ourselves,
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meaning Tatars, I am a traitor,
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in fact, now they want to
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legalize this scheme, if they
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propose to the parliament exactly this
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version of the draft law, then it
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will, as far as I understand, apply to
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about 80% of the cases conducted by Nabu Well, this
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actually cancels out the work of nabu and sap and
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in general the meaning of their existence, does the parliament understand this in
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your opinion, or is it possible in
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principle to push such an initiative through the parliament?
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so that the
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independence of anti-corruption bodies
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is preserved and they are aware of
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the threat that comes from the
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violation of the exclusive jurisdiction of the nabu.
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And as soon as there is a draft law with
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similar norms in the parliament, I am
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sure that the
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reaction of our international barters will be
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harsh both publicly and not publicly,
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and there will already be a question of deputies whether they
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want to
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vote for a law that
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will destroy our relations both with the IMF and
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with the European Union because
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behind very beautiful slogans comparing
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corruption to treason hides a very
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dangerous for the state history when we
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pump back those
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unpopular reforms for the authorities, inconvenient
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reforms that were a demand to us from the
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European Union from the IMF, and in the fall of
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this year a decision should already be made
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on further steps regarding our
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European integration,
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our partners are closely following every
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step in the reform sector, and in particular in the
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anti-corruption reform, and any
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rollback is a shot in the foot as a
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country
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and a shot at our future, but to join the
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European Union.
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When they will vote, it is not
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only a question of the
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effectiveness of the fight against corruption in
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Ukraine, it is also a question of our
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future and our integration into this
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structure and, in general, our security, so
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we will carefully monitor each with the
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voice of each people's deputy,
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we will closely monitor how they are, what
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they vote for, what amendments
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are submitted and
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in fact who are the
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people.
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which It is obvious that everything will be
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watched. But if the president has already
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announced this publicly to the whole of Ukraine,
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he will submit the corresponding bill to the parliament by the end of this week.
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it's like a real story when they want to
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strengthen the fight against corruption in
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wartime. It would be possible to propose some
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legislative changes so that this would
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actually happen and not in the perverted
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form proposed by the president's office. For
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example, if you
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cancel the possibility for people
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suspected of corruption to post bail
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for example, this is possible as a compromise
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to propose. We do not need to reinvent
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the wheel. There is already a package of legislative
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changes that we must adopt in order to
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strengthen the fight against corruption, and we
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need to start with a simple way to restore electronic
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declaration and public access to
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electronic declaration. The bill
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was voted in the first reading and there are
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many there are amendments to it, many
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deputies are trying to pronounce it, there is
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no desire to make declarations
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public, there is a position of the Ministry of
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Defense, which generally believes that everyone who
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has a relationship with the security and
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defense sector should not declare and these
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declarations should not be public.
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That is, this is the first story, the second story
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needs to be
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enlarged the number of detectives and
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special prosecutors, it was also in If we
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want to have more cases in the deluge of corruption and
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to strengthen the independence of those bodies,
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in particular, by giving us the
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opportunity to create a separate
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expert institution, I
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explain why it is important.
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with and proven damages damage
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to the state due exclusively to the
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examination, the examination is carried out in
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Ukraine by separate expert institutions, these
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expert institutions are under enormous
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pressure and political pressure, and
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quite a few of them themselves are corrupt, so a
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big problem for nabu is the ability to
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quickly and impartially establish the damages caused by
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their actions did inaction
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cause suspicion,
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this is what is needed, just the story of Tatarov, he
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was the one who tried to understate the amount of
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damages from 80 million to some
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couple of million through an expert, and this
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provided for the direct responsibility of those
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who committed this crime, in particular Nikitas,
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this is just an example of this if it was
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independent the institution of this would not be, and there is still
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such a basic thing as the statute of limitations and,
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in general, the time limits in the investigation of
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nabu and sap crimes, these are very complex crimes, often
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relying on the receipt of evidence
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abroad, it is difficult to untangle them, because
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here you need to analyze complex
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transactions, equipment, documents and Unfortunately
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in our criminal procedural
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code, we have set deadlines for how much
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time the prosecutor and detective have to
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investigate the case from the moment it is
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opened,
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how much
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time the
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prosecutor and detective have to investigate the case
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from the moment the suspicion is announced.
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These deadlines are a huge problem, because there are
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quite a lot of cases of
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false declarations in the declaration, they were closed
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due to the fact that the statute of limitations had expired
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and, in general, the statute of limitations for
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the crime was committed, that is, a certain period
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of time passes, and even if the public danger from
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the crime was already small, the
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case cannot be
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opened,
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these are technical
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nuances and details that do not sound so
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nice how to accept corruption as
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treason, but which provide already
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existing law enforcement agencies with
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guarantees of their independence
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additional tools to more effectively
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investigate crimes, the flow of corruption and
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prosecute
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in the form of deprivation of liberty confiscation of
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top officials
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Unfortunately, we do not see a huge desire of the
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president's office to strengthen these
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reforms and strengthen independence or SAP by
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such methods, but there is a great desire
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to protect one's future and to have a
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tool of political
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influence on the investigation against the top
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corruptors, and if the SBU is prosecuted
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under the formula of corruption accepted as
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treason, this will mean that in any
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proceeding, the
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SBU will be able to conduct its investigation in parallel to
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look for evidence, for example conduct some
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searches, extract information from the bank, interrogate
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witnesses, and then it is technically very
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easy to
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nullify this evidence, destroy it, make it
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improper evidence in court.
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This
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will allow you to simply close cases
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against
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people who are connected to the government, but
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at the same time, the
00:29:50
SBU's control over corruption crimes
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will allow you to open cases against
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political of opponents. There is also a great
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risk and danger here
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before it was created on or Isaab,
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mainly corruption crimes
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in top cases, these were crimes that
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had a political political color, this is the
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kind of risks there is
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here, there is one more point that seems
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unfair to me, can it be corrected
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To what extent I understand the officials of the
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president's office themselves, when we talk about
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top corruption, the head of the office, all his
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deputies, they theoretically
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cannot be clients of the nabu, so to speak, because the
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nabu, after the
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presidential administration was renamed the
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president's office, lost the opportunity to
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investigate cases against these people
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because they just became functionaries of the
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president's office, is it possible to
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correct this injustice and
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bring back and make some changes in the law
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so that these people are also in the competence
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to investigate their activities, because it is
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somehow unfair to fight all
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corruption except in one's own office, I
00:31:03
cannot give you a precise answer to this
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question as far as I know, this was a
00:31:09
problem at the beginning of
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Zelenskyi's presidency, but there are still
00:31:17
certain ways, as I'm afraid he can
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investigate
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because of some other cases. Where can they
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be involved?
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Well, I see a huge problem in the
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fact that the heads of the office and
00:31:32
declaration it was not distributed due to the fact
00:31:34
that we have an office at all, otherwise it is
00:31:38
not clear what kind of body it is, is it an
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executive body, is it a
00:31:44
legislative body, is it a judicial body, what is it?
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Well, in the theory of
00:31:50
law, there is also a division of power into three branches. That’s it. the
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president is
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elected and has legislation,
00:32:03
that is, he is more like the executive power, but
00:32:05
in our country, in general, the executive power is the
00:32:08
government, but the office itself has replaced the government
00:32:13
in many, many issues, and we have turned from a
00:32:16
parliamentary presidential
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republic into a
00:32:20
presidential republic, that is, there are
00:32:23
serious signs of violations in general
00:32:25
Constitutions, but that's what you need.
00:32:29
We have also delved into the theories of the state and law,
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but obviously the people who work in the
00:32:35
president's office are endowed with incredible,
00:32:37
equipped powers,
00:32:39
they are
00:32:41
endowed with powers that affect
00:32:43
some of the state funds that are spent, and these
00:32:46
people are obliged to declare that this is the first and
00:32:50
second for these people, independent
00:32:52
anti-corruption authorities should have the right
00:32:54
to conduct an investigation, which according to all other
00:32:56
top officials,
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I wanted to ask you one last thing
00:33:04
about It seems to me a positive story. What do
00:33:05
you think about it? Yesterday, against the background of all these
00:33:08
other scandals surrounding the
00:33:10
Ministry of Defense, Oleksiy Reznikov
00:33:12
gave a press conference and there is a war
00:33:15
announced that he finally signed the order
00:33:18
appointing Arsen Zhomadilov as
00:33:20
the head of this newly created agency
00:33:22
that will deal with unarmed
00:33:23
procurement. Do you think there will be an
00:33:27
end to all those stories about the fact that some incompatible things are happening in the Ministry of
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Defense during the invasion,
00:33:34
bans
00:33:35
are a good interim result of
00:33:38
public pressure on the Ministry
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defense
00:33:41
without pressure, without exclamations of
00:33:44
people
00:33:46
with jackets and eggs,
00:33:49
without active movements of some representatives of
00:33:52
the parliament, in particular, the head of the
00:33:54
anti-corruption committee Anastasia
00:33:56
Radina and Yaroslav Zheleznyak,
00:34:01
all this appointment would be impossible, and of
00:34:05
course this appointment
00:34:09
will not change all TV purchases tomorrow,
00:34:13
I am sure that the Ministry of Defense will
00:34:16
do everything is possible to
00:34:19
put a stick in Arsen's wheels and, in particular,
00:34:24
to weaken this agency through the by-law
00:34:27
through the transfer of funds, there are many nuances of
00:34:30
details that are critically important for the launch of a
00:34:34
new agency, er, Arsen, of all the possible
00:34:38
candidates for the head of this agency, is the
00:34:40
most competent and
00:34:42
virtuous in my opinion, because for on his shoulders is already
00:34:45
the reform of a very different, very complex
00:34:47
sector, that is the sector of medical procurement,
00:34:50
he was the head of the SE medical procurement of
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Ukraine, and we see how
00:35:04
corruption at the national level of
00:35:07
medical procurement has significantly decreased with his appearance in this reform, I am convinced that he
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has all the competences in order to do the same
00:35:11
precisely to do with labor and defense
00:35:14
procurement,
00:35:15
but the resistance inside us will be strong, and that is why
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I wish Arsen Patience and
00:35:26
he will need the support and help of
00:35:29
all the
00:35:31
conscious people in power of the reformers,
00:35:35
because the appointments are different, he did it because of the
00:35:39
minister bending over his knee, it
00:35:43
was not his initiative, it was
00:35:48
yesterday, it the minister announced the appointment
00:35:53
as a
00:35:54
political and PR step in response to the
00:35:59
flurry of criticism and scandals related to
00:36:03
the procurement of the Ministry of Defense, but this
00:36:06
appointment has long been overdue, and
00:36:09
as far as I know, Arsen has been working in the change office at the Ministry of Defense from
00:36:14
March to April.
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Now
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the transfer will be delayed of funds and the transfer of powers
00:36:24
specifically for this agency,
00:36:26
our task is to demand that already this
00:36:29
year the
00:36:30
agency given the procurement could
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carry out
00:36:36
procurements, and in the next year all the
00:36:39
procurement contracts were carried out by this one.
00:36:52
I am convinced that there will be more waves because
00:36:54
we see only the tip of the iceberg there are
00:36:58
so many problems with those procurements of
00:37:00
the Ministry of Defense, which is the largest
00:37:03
purchaser of the state now with the
00:37:04
largest budget, there
00:37:06
were a few TV sets opened
00:37:10
thanks to the bill that after eggs for
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17 hryvnias was passed in the parliament and we
00:37:17
can analyze the prices for television
00:37:19
purchases and an additional tool has been created
00:37:22
for
00:37:24
investigative journalists and public
00:37:25
figures to detect corruption, that's why
00:37:28
new investigations are appearing, but there
00:37:31
is a separate direction, this is arms
00:37:34
procurement, where everything is very secret,
00:37:37
but where the
00:37:40
most money is spent.
00:37:44
Yesterday Ukrainian Pravda published an
00:37:47
investigation about a Polish company that
00:37:50
received billions of hryvnias in
00:37:53
prepayments and did not deliver any mines or
00:37:58
other necessary equipment and
00:38:01
debts
00:38:03
to the Ministry of Defense in the amount of billions of
00:38:07
hryvnias to foreign gunsmiths
00:38:09
are huge, more precisely,
00:38:12
the Ministry of Defense made prepayments
00:38:15
in advance, 100% of the prepayments
00:38:18
were made from Ukraine, and the weapons were either
00:38:23
not delivered or were marked on time so
00:38:26
that were supplied with poor quality and this is a huge
00:38:29
systemic problem, unfortunately we do
00:38:32
not see its full extent in order to
00:38:36
ask relevant questions to the minister, this
00:38:40
scale should be seen by the
00:38:42
members of the committee on defense and
00:38:44
security, but we see that many members on
00:38:49
defense and security
00:38:52
most likely have their own interest in
00:38:55
support of the reznik
00:38:59
investigation
00:39:01
regarding the purchase of jackets showed that
00:39:03
one of the beneficiaries of the company that
00:39:06
won the 30 million tender, well, not even the
00:39:10
tender, the tender does not work, the contract with
00:39:16
which the contract for the
00:39:19
jackets was concluded, the company belonged to one of the
00:39:23
owners of this company was a 26-year-old
00:39:26
boy, the
00:39:27
nephew of a
00:39:29
people's deputy kasaya.
00:39:35
Neither the minister nor the people's representative does not
00:39:38
see any problems. Because the
00:39:40
newly created company with his relative in
00:39:43
Turkey received a 30 million
00:39:45
300 million contract with the Ministry of
00:39:47
Defense. That's why it's
00:39:51
not easy. They are so different. I am
00:39:55
convinced that the
00:39:58
president's office in the person of Andriy Yarmak
00:40:01
will be hold on to Reznikov as the
00:40:04
last straw
00:40:07
in order not to drown Why Because
00:40:11
this is a huge market, huge money is
00:40:15
spent in the
00:40:17
basement of state secrets and
00:40:21
Andriy Yarmaka's ex-business partner Denys
00:40:24
Sharapov is
00:40:25
now Reznikov's deputy responsible for
00:40:28
all these arms purchases,
00:40:30
here are
00:40:33
different clubs, it is very convenient to
00:40:36
just be a talking head and do
00:40:41
beautiful PR stunts,
00:40:44
covering with your surname and your
00:40:47
communication
00:40:49
the schemes that are taking place in the country for the purchase of med
00:40:52
weapons.
00:40:53
That is, you think that the threads of these
00:40:56
scandalous stories do not extend to
00:40:59
personally differentikov.
00:41:07
understands and knows everything. And
00:41:12
they agree to cover all these schemes.
00:41:15
I am sure that he is a part of a huge
00:41:18
part of the problem. But of
00:41:21
course, without the
00:41:25
active involvement of
00:41:27
the president, in particular Andriy Yarmaka,
00:41:32
differentikov would not have been a minister, and without the
00:41:36
control of friend Yarmak over all
00:41:39
weapons purchases, it would have been
00:41:45
impossible for
00:41:47
different people and others
00:41:49
to make beautiful PR, that is, there is a Denisharapov
00:41:53
project, a business partner of the Fair, who is de
00:41:56
facto responsible for spending money
00:41:59
on weapons. There are huge problems,
00:42:03
they can be investigated by law enforcement
00:42:05
agencies, but it will take years,
00:42:08
if not decades, because the main
00:42:11
corruption there is carried out outside our
00:42:13
country money is withdrawn, one hundred percent
00:42:15
prepayment to some companies Horns and
00:42:17
hoofs and these companies continue to
00:42:21
oblige to deliver something but do not
00:42:23
deliver And where does the money go next,
00:42:27
in what form is the bribe paid for the
00:42:30
accounts of these companies, this is a question that
00:42:33
will need to be answered, but
00:42:37
all this can do through
00:42:39
international legal aid through requests
00:42:42
official to foreign countries, answers to
00:42:44
these requests for one request can take
00:42:47
from three to six months.
00:42:50
Perhaps this is the reason why
00:42:54
this idea appeared to transfer cases from the NABU to the SBU
00:42:57
because they expect that this sooner or
00:42:59
later get out on Yuriy Nikola yesterday
00:43:01
on the air I said that some kind of new investigation is on the way
00:43:04
which points precisely to
00:43:06
people who stand much higher than
00:43:09
Reznikov himself. It seems to me that this is one of the reasons
00:43:12
why all this is happening when
00:43:14
corruption is equated with treason,
00:43:19
I am this called This is the protection of their
00:43:22
future
00:43:24
in the president's office, everyone perfectly
00:43:26
understands
00:43:28
where they steal, where their interests are, and where
00:43:33
there is a risk that they will be reprimanded later, that's why
00:43:36
I'm trying to protect myself, we
00:43:42
'll try to repel this attempt. Thank
00:43:44
you for the explanation.
00:43:46
question thank you thank you

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