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but today we will continue this topic

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which I told you that it is the

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most important,

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perhaps for our entire course of

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study both in the seminary and in the academy

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in general for training which we call

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spiritual training, it is about what

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we call in one word the knowledge of God but

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essentially we are talking about those basic,

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most basic, I would say, principles on

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which a person’s spiritual life can only be built

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and ignorance of which can

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lead him to the saddest

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consequences,

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apparently the most severe suffering in a

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person after death, and maybe even before

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death, it will be suffering about that that he

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fruitlessly

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spent his life in futility in

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confusion in some strange

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hobbies and affairs that does not

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make any sense at all, wasting

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precious life time

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about this, we will probably suffer very hard

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when in vain and at the same time

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pay attention to what

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humanity thinks about most prolongation of your life

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and look at the same time what you are

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doing in a fruitless pastime

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paradox but it is a fact of our

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life some kind of futility you in empty

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conversations empty reading empty communications

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looking and so on it’s simply

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amazing amazing what we see

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on someone no no no not those no no on

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oneself on oneself there is no need for others to speak,

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everyone knows for himself about himself and under his

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friends and I want to continue this, as I

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already said, the most important topic of our

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education about spiritual life, I outlined

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so no three things and we touched on

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one of the most important questions about who can

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have faith in Christ, how is

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faith in Christ acquired, how is it a question about

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which we think little, in fact,

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look at what things are being revealed, this is an

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amazing thing, since faith in Christ is

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not the one who now I will say terrible words, it is

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not at all the one who believes in it seems in

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Christ says that he does not believe at all,

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no longer to be convinced that I am a believer,

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that is, I believe Christ came,

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suffered, rose, ascended, gave the gospel, I

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believe so, the mother and church teachings of the church,

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I go to church, and so on, what

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the fathers say, and at the same time turn out to be not a

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believer who has faith in

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Christ, I remind you friends and this is the

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fundamental

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truth without which all of our Christianity,

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I’ll tell you, loses all meaning

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why am I repeating this again everything just

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loses all meaning

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from this who has faith in Christ

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listen again I’ll read it to you who the

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beginning of turning to Christ

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lies in the knowledge of one’s sinfulness;

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one’s fall

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from such a view of oneself; one

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recognizes the need for a redeemer and approaches

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Christ through humility of faith and

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repentance; one who does not see one’s

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sinfulness turns out to

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not see, much less, one’s inability

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not to live by this sin. it

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turns out that he really will

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never recognize Christ because

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it needs to be recognized,

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that is, he will never have a vera vera

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who saves a person, why we talked to you,

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I remind you that you don’t need Christ, the one

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who sees himself healthy doesn’t need

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a savior, the one who sees himself on the sand

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hot, warm, he doesn’t need him, what kind of

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savior does he need when I’m already good, I’m already

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saved, everyone has sins, but I don’t see

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my death, I repeat to you

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friends again, and this is very important, regardless of

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our condition, I remind you, we

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should at least know this They themselves didn’t

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lift a finger, unfortunately, but they

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should know

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and explain to people that faith in Christ as a

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savior

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begins only when I see that

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I can’t do anything with my envy,

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greed and other things I don’t want to

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list until I see I’m

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suffering That’s why each passion

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is called the word passion from

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the word suffering, and as long as I don’t suffer, that

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is, I don’t see this, I do

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n’t need any Christ, even if I was a three-time believer

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in all ranks in all countries in all

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positions, no matter who it is,

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even the Pope

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I’m not a Christian until I see the

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need for this inner soul, the

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need for a savior, look how a

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person screams who is in trouble, who is

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drowning, who is being attacked there,

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look how he screams with all his heart, a

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savior, this is

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the state of the soul who are able to

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accept Christ, this is where faith

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in Christ begins

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when we feel all the nastiness of

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those things that are happening inside

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me and which no one can see, not a

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single person, what great truth the

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holy fathers reveal to us, this is what we need to do, we just

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need to remember it carefully and

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pass it on to other people so that everyone

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understands. than our salvation is where

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our Christianity is and not at all in this

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purely external form when we soullessly

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go to church we confess we take communion

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soullessly again I say that

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this can be of use only when it’s

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interesting when

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when a person really wants to

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acquire faith in Christ

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when he really about and seek

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if you want the truth, remember we said

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to seek the truth strives for it then

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only all this external side of life

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will be the means through

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which a person gradually begins to

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know who he is, these are the main

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words of Christ, an unhealthy person needs a

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doctor, but the sick could do this directly

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put as a motto if you want to add to

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everything Christianity, the unhealthy person

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needs a doctor

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but they are sick, remember I said

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divine irony who are these

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healthy people who don’t have the need who is it

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which of the people is healthy speech this is

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not the spiritual side of life their greatest saints

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when they came to this state holiness

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saw that

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what they saw believe the brothers

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will be cast Satan will be cast there I am

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with friends the basic truths that

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we need to somehow learn and understand

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Christianity without this is empty hear

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empty soap bubble without this

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content and how many people

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are deceived when they think

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that they are - being nothing, now you

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understand why the holy fathers conveyed

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such

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enormous importance and paramount

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importance to humility, but it’s clear why

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because humility and that is, the state of

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knowing that I need a savior,

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otherwise I will perish, I will perish from the

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passions tearing me apart, remember his strength, the Greeks are

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one of their words begins as if no

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more destructive passion than envy arose in human souls and

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continues to talk about other passions in others, a

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person finds something such

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satisfaction here has nothing

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only suffers from the fact that another has a

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neighbor

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good from this the poor suffers what

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horror like this friends, we are, I’m just

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reminding you of what we

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talked about, and I’m also reminding you that it turns out that

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the law is this, we’re talking about

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external laws, you need to know internal laws,

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who can see how to see themselves,

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so I see myself as good, and so are you all.

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how can I see myself that I need

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a savior, it turns out that the most curious and

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most important thing is the one who lives spontaneously, well, the

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Pamirs, the one who does not force himself to

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live according to the commandments according to the commandment of Moses,

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of course you

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cut it like that and according to the commandments of the gospel,

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that is, does not pay attention to his

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inner world on his thoughts and feelings of

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desire, and so he lives spontaneously,

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lives in an atmosphere from this sin,

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completely calmly dreams of

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anything, feels anything, does anything in general,

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nothing special, nothing seems

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special on the outside, in reality lives in

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this pool, not when he turns out to

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see feeling like a sinner is an amazing

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phenomenon,

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by the way, from one of the stunning

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proofs of the fall we are

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in. I don’t see my sin as

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long as I live in this atmosphere of

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sin,

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so anyone who wants to finally see

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Christ,

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I’m not saying in the literal sense,

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must identify with him. he must

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get out of this atmosphere, like from a musty

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room, you know, sometimes a person comes in,

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you say there is an ax here, you need to hang the ax

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and it really won’t fall

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until the person leaves the

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room and understands what he was in,

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so self-knowledge turns out to be

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necessary for a person like it the

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golden words of the Venerable

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Simeon the new theologian are being fulfilled, which I will

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slightly paraphrase

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so that it is more understandable, forcing oneself

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sincerely and forcing oneself to

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live according to the commandments reveals to a person

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his true state,

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he said so carefully, fulfilling the

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commandments of Christ teaches him the weaknesses

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in what kind of fulfillment forcing oneself to do

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this fulfillment and reveal not only

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infirmities, not only infirmities reveals a

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person’s sins and passions, and if you want

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the powerlessness to really live as

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Christ called us,

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by the way, he also gives him to play Rinchen, but

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this is the advice they give

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whoever refuses to condemn those around him

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naturally begins to see sins and

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my infirmities which I didn’t see while I was judging my

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neighbors, oh,

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what interesting

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advice, that advice, but how it’s not to

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condemn like that, I can’t even imagine

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here, I recently graduated from theological

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school, so I can’t imagine

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until a person refuses from judging

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your neighbors here you need to directly contain what is

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called grab and hold stop

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where you went stop look at yourself my dear

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my friends this is the

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main truth without which once again

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I will tell you the same thing 100 times again

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husband don’t be embarrassed please a hundred times 101

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to speak like this is the main truth without which there

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can be no talk of any Christianity,

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no Orthodoxy will not even be given to you

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10 metro then they will give you 20 crosses on your neck

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for self-knowledge, from here

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humility is born, faith in Christ is born like

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this, now I want to touch on

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one more question which very rich of

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which we constantly come into contact

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is the question of the meaning of good deeds, so-

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called good deeds in our

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Christian life, here I want to

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say about two things, the first is what

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is called good deeds,

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ordinary under good deeds we call

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it deeds of mercy,

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we provide help to people and this really

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can be the main meaning of this

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concept, but there is another meaning that we often

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find in the patristic works when

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they call doing good the work of

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even some hermit who does not

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see anyone, some kind of recluse, a

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hermit, that is, by a good

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deed, it is, of course, not this

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external just human activity

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and internal activity, the activity

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of doing good,

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just like that, in connection with this, you need to

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look at what good deeds are,

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under what conditions they are

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good and what is the key, the true

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key to understanding

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them, the Apostle Paul already has such

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interesting weakly

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if whoever strives is not crowned,

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if he strives illegally the holy

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fathers give an amazing interpretation and

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it is better to say an explanation of these words who

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strives cones, the ascetic is not

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crowned, that is, does not receive a reward,

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that the rewards don’t mean buff

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rewards something, they receive the fruit you hear

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the fruit does not receive drips not at all

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where the garden is watered at all by the fact that it is

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necessary to

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refuse someone who is illegally, that is, incorrectly,

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incorrectly laboring seems to be

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laboring will not receive the fruits what kind of

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fruit is this we again return to this

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central idea, the

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central understanding of the Venerable Isaac

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the Syrian says reward happens this

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fruit is not virtue and you hear and I don’t have to

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work for her sake,

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oh how could many understand this, but the

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humility born from them is it

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will be lost,

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then the first ones will be in vain here we are again

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faced with a wonderful

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regularity of

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our human life, it turns out that

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if we do something,

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if we even move, we do what you want

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or external activities of the same

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we perform deeds of mercy, help or

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inside the days you hear what is internal

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we are engaged in prayer

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prayer you hear we are engaged in prayers not just

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something reading the word of God going

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to the temple bowing and so on even

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prayers like this seem to be the essence of spiritual life of

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all kinds we are doing this

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but As a result, what is born in us is not

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humility, but self-conceit,

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everything is crossed out completely,

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everything is crossed out,

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not crowned, who will

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strive illegally, the history of the church

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gives us as many examples as you want when

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no one, namely ascetics,

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fall into so-called prelest, and the

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very concept of prelest, it is usually

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only used to the ascetics, although in

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fact we are all in the delusion of this, we all

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imagine that we are the best in the world, but all

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this is not yet what happens there in the

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square and in the cube to render those who

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have taken the path of achievement but without

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understanding its meaning,

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they are what I am already talking about the gift of

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the Lord, I made 100 thousand bows,

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actions, prayer, Susa, come on, you are

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delaying something, I am already ready to receive all the gifts

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of grace,

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this poor man falls into the fact that

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they are charmed for minutes

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and can strain in different ways, but the most

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important thing is that the person begins to

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see himself as glory Lord, as

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Theophan the recluse himself said to you, 3 they are rubbish

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and everything keeps repeating down like other

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people, I have already given you an example

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that St. Ignatius is given by an

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Athonite monk, remember water, it seems I

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brought him to you who all

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wore summer clothes there in winter and

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slept little until then until he listened to the advice

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and persecuted Brianchaninov and began to lead a

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normal

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Christian lifestyle, soon make

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a fur coat and eat a lot, began to sleep a lot

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in general, the poor almost beat him up to play and

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Brianchaninov for taking away

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sweet experiences means good deeds

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both external and internal they must be

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done only in the right way,

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this key is not located somewhere,

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not in a casket there at the bottom of the sea, but is located

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inside a person, I can hear,

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struggle and do good for the sake of what I am seeking,

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God grant me to wait,

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waiting for you already for the grace-filled gifts of God, I am waiting

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for a visit from God, I am waiting a little not the

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appearance of Christ himself there to the Mother of God

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of fruits,

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this expectation is fatal for the spiritual

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life of a person, I will give you an example to my

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friends and so that this will be remembered

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what expectations a person has who are seriously

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suffering from an illness, more than

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that he expects the pleasure of the nightingales of us

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and the nets of

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salvation alone, as it were, to be healed,

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as it were there wasn’t this suffering, that’s what

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he’s waiting for and nothing else that awaits the

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drowning man who is choking on some gifts, it’s

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funny to think even these are good

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examples that show us the

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correct attitude towards

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what can be called a feat,

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good deeds, and so on, what they are

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forcing oneself, forcing oneself for the sake of the commandment

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to do this and that

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for the sake of the West, too, this is how we do it, the

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doctor gives the medicine, I don’t know what

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its effect is, well, I don’t know, but I believe, I

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accept that this is my merit, and there is

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only laughter here, I believe, Lord, that

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these are my deeds and prayers, they are not

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some kind of forcing myself and good deeds,

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what are they, what are they, Lord, I believe they

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will finally open my soul to me, you hear that the

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most important thing will reveal to me the contents of

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my soul, I will finally see who I

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really am what kind of chuwi zhu

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all my two things is revealed to a person 1 the

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damage of all of us of

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human nature in itself and and the

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damage is the ancestral

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hereditary things that are present in

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us this is the damage that 1 piece

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is revealed about what the Apostle Paul writes about not the good

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that I want to do but that evil and tass I put on the

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second, that my personal sins are revealed,

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which before this I did not attach

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any importance to many because I judged

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someone, gasped at someone, thought about someone,

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and so on, and attention and even

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I didn’t have any to it then

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a person begins to see that you are throwing mud at yourself,

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condemning the other, that I am making

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myself dirty, throwing mud at

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myself, they will say rude words to another

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person, I thought about injecting him, I

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hurt myself, it turns out they are someone and so

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on, friends and having done everything, I shouldn’t

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what we do and that is, these are

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wounds and that is, if you want, the evil

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that we cause to ourselves, these are the two things

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that are revealed to the human soul and

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they are revealed gradually

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as we

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gradually gradually work

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why by faith I remind you if

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everything is revealed to us at once what is in us,

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probably not a single person will resist, but will immediately

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die of despair, which he will see

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gradually and

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the opening of the soul gives a person the opportunity to

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gradually deepen humility,

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and with humility the special help of God is given,

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the grace of God,

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because one must understand what humility is,

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what it is the way

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the door opens first, a thin

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crack, you will recognize when there is severe frost on

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the street, you only open it a little and from

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there cola measures begin to flow,

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this is the door that opens God's

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entrance into our soul,

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what

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Ignatius Brianchaninov writes about good deeds

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that are not done for the sake of God,

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done out of a dream receiving some

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gifts and blessings from God oh what

00:26:27

strong words he has

00:26:29

misfortune is the one who is satisfied with his

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own human truth and

00:26:35

why misfortune you know he doesn’t need

00:26:40

Christ you hear he doesn’t need a savior

00:26:46

and who to reward or come on God I

00:26:50

gave a penny I made a bow come on

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Moreover, if you hesitate, Christ is not needed

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for those who are satisfied with their own

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human truth; this is the property of

00:27:06

all bodily deeds and good visible

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deeds; if we perform them, we think of making a

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sacrifice to God;

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they are paying our immense debt; then

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good deeds and deeds are implanted in us by our

00:27:26

parents; the soul of destructive pride, wow, what a

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great thing to say to friends and we see

00:27:34

we are in contact with the laws of spiritual

00:27:36

life, which you just need to know,

00:27:41

he further writes such terrible words,

00:27:44

I will tell you, the worker of the truth of man is

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filled with conceit, highly capable of

00:27:53

self-delusion,

00:27:54

and then listen, with hatred and

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vengeance he pays those who you dared to

00:28:06

boil their lips for the most thorough

00:28:09

and the benefits of deliberate contradiction to

00:28:12

his truth recognizes himself as worthy and,

00:28:18

worthy of the rewards of earth and heaven,

00:28:22

wow, what terrible words, here

00:28:25

he is, a poisonous snake that

00:28:32

is present and with which one must fight,

00:28:37

therefore he concludes, do not look for

00:28:41

Christian perfection in

00:28:43

human virtues, it is not here, it is mysteriously

00:28:47

kept in the cross

00:28:50

Christ, these are the thoughts that I

00:28:54

am telling you, my friends, you probably

00:28:56

understand perfectly well how much they

00:28:57

contradict the most common

00:29:01

belief that good deeds, no matter how they

00:29:05

are done, if they bring

00:29:09

someone here, then let them have material help,

00:29:11

psychological help, no matter

00:29:13

what source they come from they come from me,

00:29:15

they are always good, the deepest

00:29:20

mistake is that you can’t give a person poisonous water to drink,

00:29:26

you can’t save him with poisoned

00:29:31

bread, you can’t nourish him, you must not forget

00:29:36

that God is ready to make bread from these stones

00:29:41

and feed people, therefore, as long as

00:29:44

ours we create

00:29:47

some good deeds or performing

00:29:49

deeds from this evil beginning will

00:29:53

not bring any benefit, this thing that is

00:29:58

absolutely not accepted is not accepted

00:30:01

absolutely by our ours with this passionate

00:30:04

get him beginning, we can’t understand this

00:30:07

we can’t understand that the virtues of the

00:30:10

old man are from this passionate and

00:30:14

state of the new person, these are

00:30:16

mutually exclusive things that do not complement the

00:30:20

exclusive things, they are incompatible,

00:30:26

repeats the path once again, what is the reason

00:30:29

that these deeds concluded by old age, we do it, the deeds we do do not

00:30:35

bring any benefit, not understanding the

00:30:39

simple thing that good deeds, that is,

00:30:43

deeds of mercy, good deeds, that is, ours

00:30:48

under ours exploits are not the goal but the

00:30:53

means of fulfilling the commandment of love, and

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this fulfillment is only

00:31:03

when they are performed for the sake of

00:31:07

fulfilling the commandments, and if

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we do these deeds not for the sake of this, not for the sake of love for

00:31:16

God, the meaning is for the sake of fulfilling the commandments,

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as he said, the one who

00:31:21

fulfills my commandments loves me

00:31:23

this is who loves me, I just do it for this sake, I do

00:31:27

n’t expect anything from you,

00:31:29

Lord, no rewards, what kind of

00:31:31

rewards do I take only pills

00:31:34

for the sake of healing, what do you

00:31:40

drink for this, what do you tell the doctor for this, and don’t take pills or throw them away,

00:31:42

as you wish? in the

00:31:43

end they give it to you for the sake of healing, we

00:31:48

do it and not for the sake of some rewards,

00:31:51

for the sake of a crown on our heads like this, when

00:31:57

we do it just for the sake of this, we

00:31:59

try to do it at least the devil is just

00:32:02

the devil instills in us sometimes these thoughts,

00:32:05

thoughts, both glorious

00:32:07

and mercenary and so on, when we

00:32:12

do this for the sake of it, then only they

00:32:14

acquire their positive meaning and

00:32:16

he is a prophet, a companion of wars, and the great anus

00:32:19

on this occasion said very well

00:32:23

true work cannot be without humility,

00:32:28

for work in itself is vanity and is not

00:32:33

imputed to it; you

00:32:36

breathe on your own work and what kind of work she

00:32:41

can have,

00:32:44

we see the medieval

00:32:47

Catholic ascetics, they all just did themselves as they were

00:32:49

chosen,

00:32:50

how they fought, and with iron whips, like

00:32:54

blood flowed, even sweat flows blood, what the

00:32:58

work itself doesn’t do is vanity

00:33:01

and futility when it is not done

00:33:08

for the sake of healing from their sins, that’s why it’s

00:33:16

very important to

00:33:21

remember these instructions of St.

00:33:24

Ignatius Brianchaninov, and he even you know

00:33:29

that he says generally parasitic things when a

00:33:32

true ascetic gives the truth, I’ll read it to

00:33:36

you better, the ascetic writes, he only as soon as he

00:33:42

begins to fulfill the commandments he will see that

00:33:47

he is fulfilling them in a very insufficiently uncleanly

00:33:51

intensified activity According to the Gospel, the

00:33:58

insufficiency of his good deeds reveals to him more clearly and clearly the multitude of

00:34:01

his deviations and motives, the

00:34:04

unhappy state of his fallen

00:34:06

nature by

00:34:08

fulfilling the commandments, listen only to

00:34:12

his fulfillment of the commandments, he recognizes

00:34:17

them as distortion and desecration, and then the

00:34:21

shockingly perfect things that he

00:34:23

says, therefore, the saints, listen, only

00:34:28

washed their virtues as if sins were

00:34:34

streams of tears, this, and

00:34:41

our virtues, as if sins were

00:34:45

streams of tears, my sins, then we don’t

00:34:51

wash our own with streams of tears,

00:34:52

but here we washed our virtues, we saw, we saw the

00:34:59

constant poison that our

00:35:03

depravity brings everywhere, even

00:35:07

to make it seem good, the

00:35:10

man prayed a little better and has already melted from which

00:35:13

from my gratitude, not to mention

00:35:18

other things, I

00:35:20

took it like this and this is the attitude towards

00:35:24

good deeds, this is their understanding for you

00:35:28

and me, this is especially important, all of you will come

00:35:30

into contact, I hope not yet from

00:35:33

many people who will do

00:35:35

charity, which many are now each

00:35:38

of Our clergy

00:35:40

comes into contact with this, almost all of them

00:35:42

are people who want to

00:35:44

do charity, help the construction of

00:35:47

the temple and other things, how important it is for them to

00:35:52

reveal these things to these benefactors,

00:35:56

if we don’t thank them with this,

00:36:01

when we reveal to them in what mood how to

00:36:05

treat this correctly, then we we will be

00:36:07

real villains who will pay them

00:36:11

for their good deeds with

00:36:12

black ingratitude when instead of

00:36:17

telling them to explain this to them,

00:36:19

we will plant these boards in copper or

00:36:22

gold with names written on them even if

00:36:25

they want to say this, keep in mind that

00:36:29

your left hand does not know what your right hand is doing

00:36:33

if you want really do a

00:36:35

good deed for the sake of Christ, by the way, I’ll tell you, keep

00:36:39

in mind that many of them, I don’t already have statistics here, will

00:36:47

gratefully accept these words of yours with

00:36:50

gratitude because they will see your

00:36:53

know that you don’t have this

00:36:56

sycophancy and believe that you

00:37:01

really really want to do the same

00:37:04

good deed to them so

00:37:08

please keep that in mind

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