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but now we will talk about this with Timur
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Olevsky, chief news editor of the
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insider publication Timur Hello, good to
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see you Good evening
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Good evening, good to see you
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and Timur But we know, almost
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every day we talk about these horrors
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that happen to those people who are
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somehow not they support the regime,
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they go out despite even common sense in the
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current situation, because at the beginning of
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the war we expected that there would be many of them, that there
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would be thousands of hundreds of thousands, now we
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understand that the situation has
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changed dramatically, even for a single picket without
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a sign you can get almost
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half of your life in prison, we understand that
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it objectively doesn’t work like that. What
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opportunities remain then to resist?
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We understand that waiting for hundreds of thousands is
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definitely not an option now; going out and acting
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uniting lice - uniting
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abroad of this state is
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the only opportunity to somehow
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interact and gain strength like
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this in consciousness.
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This is a difficult question. Thank you very much for
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asking this question.
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Is there a way
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to defeat the regime for
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people who have Russian passports,
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I don’t know, I don’t know a way to do this.
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Unfortunately, I know that there are a lot of people who want
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to do and there are clearly fewer people than those who are
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not ready to do anything or the
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aggressive minority who are
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most noticeable who support the
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war of
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those who went to the front, not
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all wars support I mean, among those
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mobilized there are like those people
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who Well, you know, for some
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ideological reasons
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they left it to be done. They simply do not know how to
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resist the state or took it
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weakly with the words What are you doing? not a man and They
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went to where They went and
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died because they died are now
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in the state that you tell
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every day, but if the way
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to win is for those people who live in Russia
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just now by getting
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together and doing something I can’t imagine
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because the junta If It’s completely fair
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to call it And I call Putin’s regime junta yaga
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not because I like the word,
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but because, well, by
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political science definition, a junta is the power
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of the security forces who seized the country
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based on this most aggressive
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minority doing everything possible and
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suppressing the rest. Therefore, in this
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sense Putin's regime is, of course, a junta of
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Old Men that is so
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difficult to defeat from within, and there are examples
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of how juntas have rotted and there are rarely
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examples of how juntas have won from within. By and
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large, changing the
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situation in Russia now radically is
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probably only possible only with some kind of
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impending economic history or under certain
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conditions which can be created
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man-made or I don’t know there’s a military
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invasion because I’m sure that the
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defeat of Russia war is inevitable on the
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territory of Ukraine the
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Putin regime itself will not overthrow
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Putin, rather there you know there will be more
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reasons around his circle to engage in Well, to
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engage in the redistribution of property
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to find out who is right who whoever is to blame
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can take something away from those people who
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fought with weapons in their hands like
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Prigozhin, they will come back and want to take what is theirs,
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but I want to say about those people, about those
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Russians who, for some
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reason that is clear to me, cannot remain absolutely silent
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and whose conscience will not allow they can
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sleep peacefully because of what is happening,
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no matter how terribly they feel in the minority now
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and no matter how risky for
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them, uh, their position turns out to be,
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and you probably know the story, I don’t know, have you
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already told me now or not that
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recently Hmm in Russia, a married couple
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was sent to a pre-trial detention center for talking about Ukraine
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in a restaurant at a table where they
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exchanged news and ideas about
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what was happening. Just in a
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private conversation with each other,
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some person who was sitting at the
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next table and simply handed them over to
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the police, these are the things this is happening in
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a sense Iran, yes, that is, that they
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understand that there were protests in
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Iran, you saw how uh people died,
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how people are now imprisoned for ten
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years, how women died after the death of
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which, uh, beaten to death by the Basij,
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not much different from the modern
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Russian special services Yes And so these people came out
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to protest, everyone was watching what was
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happening, but the Iranian regime seems to have
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coped with these protests and it is not clear
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how it will change as a result of them,
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for sure it will change somehow, but
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in force, of course, it is the protests themselves that
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could threaten it there. suppressed But this is
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what I want to talk about, what I want to
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talk about, I want to tell you about those
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people who cannot sleep peacefully
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Looking at what is happening in Ukraine,
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I, as an insider, recently asked the
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journalists who work for me in
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separate news to do a short
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material about that in in how many cities in Russia did
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people come to spontaneous rallies at
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spontaneous Sorry memorials to the memory of
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people who died in the Dnieper due to the
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barbaric terrorist attack of Putin
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and the Russian military
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and we were very afraid when we started
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preparing this material that we would see that
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these spontaneous memorials arose in two
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cities, relatively speaking, and we will only
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show that the Russians, well,
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don’t respond at all to this Tragedy
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that the whole world is talking about,
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but it turned out when we started making it
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that spontaneous memorials in the conditions
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that we just talked about with the
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risks that exist people
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appeared simultaneously in 40 cities of
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Russia
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this geography is worth a lot of things, this
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means that all over Russia and there
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really is geography just to
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understand from Rostov to Khabarovsk
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There were people who came and laid
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flowers for them now this is a very important
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act very dangerous very important This
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means that in every city there is someone
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who doesn’t sleep at night after a rocket
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exploded in Kramatorsk and understands that
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this is a monstrous crime. Can
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they
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change Putin’s regime? No, can
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they leave a chance that Russia will
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someday become another country? I think
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Timur And I would like to clarify further. You
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brought it up comparison with Iran But in
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fact, there have already been such periods in Russian history,
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especially if we talk about
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Soviet times, I feel like many people
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ask this question. What year
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reigns in Moscow now, if we speak historically,
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is it Stalin’s ’37 or Well, not so
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scary, yes Well, for example, at that but it was more
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careless when there was stagnation and it
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was impossible to say much, especially after the start of the
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war in Afghanistan, everyone understood that the KGB was
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working one way or another. Now,
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what year and what period was the
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modern Russian Federation attributed?
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Why? Because on the one hand, the
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level of the political
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would probably be compared with some
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seventies 68 when you probably remember
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Natalya Gorbanevskaya group a small
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group of people came out to Red Square
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which you are now showing with one
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small poster at first glance for
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our freedom against the invasion of
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Prague and these people were brutally
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thrown into prison and mental hospitals and
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broken they have life
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and It’s clear that those who are not
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happy with the authorities are now dealing with
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exactly the same thing. But on the other hand, and
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then and now and then and now
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all this took place under the slogan of the
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public who are indignant against
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traitors to the Motherland And all sorts of people means
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this Chechens, that’s what I think she
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was called, and people who handed over those
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who don’t agree with how E
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is moving from the outside, how she lives, she also
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grabbed, but on the other hand, there are
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still a huge number of people who
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recently lived in another country. Well, that is,
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you understand that Russia ten years ago This is another Russia
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where they tried to demolish Putin and prevent him from
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entering the Kremlin for the third time, after which, in fact,
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everything that is
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happening now after the protests began. And after
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Putin returned, then the
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whole world returned to try to bring
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these people to their knees, many more people who
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even 10 years ago they lived in another country
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of conditionally former people
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who remember that they lived in a free
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country, that they had hopes that they
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had plans. Well, Russia simply cannot be
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compared with the Russian Empire, which
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survived the Bolshevik revolution when
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the situation was simply completely different;
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go to all historical comparisons they are
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very amateurishly incorrect and
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unfortunately they talk about what is
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happening now, but some things are
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of course similar, maybe it can be
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compared with some time when
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Stalinism began there or someone there in 27 or
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thirty-two when the
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flywheel of repression begins, there are simply dangers
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She’s actually not remorseful that now
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all these former people who remember, uh, how
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they lived in another country, they
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will have to resign themselves to getting used to and
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learning to live in this new Soviet
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Union or leave,
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and the authorities, accordingly, who are carrying out
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repressions, are also gaining, well, If
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these people get drunk with blood and they have
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fewer and fewer brakes, and those people
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who are now in depression are turning
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their flywheel, at some point
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all sorts of ideas will appear, and if not now, I don’t
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know, hundreds of thousands of people are being sent to prison
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simply because there is no need to put them in prison.
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it’s clear that it’s expensive to do with them. Well,
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apart from sending the Wagner dude to
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war,
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there are no large communist construction projects
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that need to feed tons of thousands of people
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that
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need to feed thousands of people’s lives in order
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to build the White Sea Canal, otherwise it’s
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quite possible that over time they’ll
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figure out why so many people are needed to
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prison and then this flywheel will
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unfold, but I think that you can’t
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compare what’s happening now with
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what happened in Russia, but
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maybe you need to compare it with some other
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countries, maybe you need to compare it
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with the Chilean Innachov coup or
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something like that, so probably now is the
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seventieth year and some 27 And
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in general, some kind of Chilean revolution
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that Timur lost, I don’t know, it’s just
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some kind of mysticism, I’m right here I’m
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reading now, I wanted to address you just now
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with this comparison, I’m just reading
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information about the reset of Pinochet
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how it was that the history of
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this military dictatorship just ended. So I literally
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wanted to quote yes, when the country under
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the control of the military was at the peak of
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its development. The dictator, confident
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that he would never lose support,
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changed the Constitution, planned
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a vote and eventually paid for the fact that,
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in general, it ended management But
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somehow it all turned out very
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naturally and in kind and naturally, that
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is, without any such losses. Is it possible
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to compare the Russian situation now with
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what happened in Chile because I
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further on this issue wanted to address
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you with the following Here we are just now
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remembered the era of Stalin Yes,
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now you remembered Pinochet and Chile and now
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Let’s see what we came with now
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in the Russian Federation, could it be
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that in this situation it’s just an option
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when he dies? Well, let’s say the
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Dictator dies,
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no matter what the circumstances are.
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Yes, and it comes from now it’s analogous
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to Stalin’s times Why
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Because the Chilean Well, it’s not at all
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not visible at all because
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look there is no opposition there is no
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institution there is no free media there is no
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civil society as such No it’s
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all gone there is no strength there is no leader
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who would lead no there is
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no understanding of some kind you don’t know the internal
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orientation in general where to move apathy
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well, plus don’t forget about everything When
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everything opens when the wall falls and people
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see what really happened
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throughout this year God grant that it
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ends soon in Ukraine this is it
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what kind of psychological trauma plus
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everything So now it’s either a complete collapse,
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but obviously they’ve begun, you know,
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for starters there will
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be a Thaw would be an
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attractive scenario for Russia, but
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it’s not clear what to do with the war
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crimes that are being committed right
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now in front of the whole world and the 21st century
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is different from 20 by the fact that each of them is
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documented happening
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almost directly 4 it is not clear what is
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being done by the evil that has been caused to tens
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and hundreds of thousands of people right now in
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Ukraine in front of the whole world, it will
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be impossible to just take it and
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forget it will be impossible to just take it and
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say but now you have no Putin, you
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have become different. The
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Soviet Union after Stalin
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and after Khrushchev
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appeared on the international arena as a
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Partner, well, as an entity with which
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you can deal, but it was never a
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friendly country until the end of its
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development and the Cold War
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was called a war because it lasted
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until his the end of the
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Soviet Union and the Soviet Union
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in Afghanistan and so on, etc. But
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he directed most of his aggression inside the
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country Yes, against his people and
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Well, by the way, Putin is now directing
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exactly the same thing, apparently he will do exactly the same thing
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because this is the lot of everyone, he will
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fight with one way or another by their own
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citizens But there is one thing
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called war crimes and
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just like that, no one can pretend that they didn’t happen.
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Well, that is, even if
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the West really wants to do it now. Apparently the
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West is completely unlikely there, but conditionally
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Europe pretends that
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Let’s forget Russia, I even I don’t really
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understand why they should do this
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because not only is Russia learning
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to live without the West and without the money that
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it earned there, but the West is also
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learning to live without Russia,
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new economic chains are being built, completely
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different trade chains, supply
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chains and the game is energy chains.
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They are the same then they won’t be destroyed in one
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day simply because Russia has come to its senses
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and now those people who spent
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money on everything on this on everything new will say
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Well, okay Let’s then return everything to the way
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it was and why have they now invested all this
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in the green economy in new
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gas supplies from other countries and so on,
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so it seems to me that ah, if not a collapse,
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then a trial. This is the only way that
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is possible for Russia to return to the
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world space and how it will be. I ca
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n’t imagine that this won’t happen. To be
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honest, I can also imagine
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Timur and I would also like to give a more general
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example to a specific example, you have already given several
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examples. I would like to give another
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textbook example. Just to give an example. The
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Basmanny Court of Moscow sentenced
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journalist Alexander Nevzorov in absentia to 8 years in a
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general regime colony in the case of
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disseminating so-called fakes
00:15:40
about the Russian army, the publication
00:15:42
Novoye Vremya Delo reports. was opened after a
00:15:44
well-known journalist said
00:15:46
that the Russian military in March 22,
00:15:49
during the Assad of Mariupol, deliberately
00:15:51
fired at a maternity hospital in this city, as a
00:15:54
result of which at least one
00:15:56
pregnant woman died, the verdict was passed
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in absentia since the publicist a year ago
00:16:01
left the Russian Federation
00:16:03
Nevzorov wants get rid of
00:16:05
Russian citizenship, but now, in his opinion, in connection with the
00:16:08
court decision, this will become impossible. He
00:16:10
believes that the Kremlin wants reprisals against
00:16:13
him, if only to keep
00:16:15
Russian citizens in fear, on the one hand,
00:16:17
you know, you can say tell them that
00:16:19
when I’m not there, I can even beat But on
00:16:22
the other hand, there is also a wonderful
00:16:24
quote from Nevzorov, he says that I would
00:16:26
really like to cut off absolutely all ties
00:16:28
with Russia and no longer have anything to do with this
00:16:29
country, but now I
00:16:31
understand that I am ashamed in front of those
00:16:33
magnificent people who in Russia are
00:16:35
following this martyrdom who, having
00:16:37
received a sentence, actually go to
00:16:40
prison or are already sitting there, gnawing there, these
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prison bars are subjected to torture and
00:16:44
humiliation, they do not invent anything new.
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If you carefully study
00:16:48
the tactics of Hitler's Germany, in my opinion,
00:16:50
they began this story in the year forty-
00:16:52
two 1942 specifically the brightest
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most significant figures they humiliated
00:16:57
themselves, sat down and got together in front of everyone in
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order to convince everyone, even people so
00:17:02
noticeable can so easily omit what
00:17:06
will happen to everyone else, and I have a
00:17:08
wonderful quote in connection with this. You ca
00:17:11
n’t even argue with a single word. I
00:17:13
would like to understand this way and the way out in general now there are,
00:17:17
you say that these people who
00:17:19
go out and make
00:17:22
memorials, who protest one way or
00:17:24
another, if they can’t change anything,
00:17:27
only then how can
00:17:29
the situation in Russia change? I see for myself
00:17:32
only one way out. I can’t speak for
00:17:33
everyone. I am his authorized representative, then
00:17:36
you understand that society is very different and
00:17:38
consists of a huge number of
00:17:40
strata, so to unite it collectively into
00:17:44
some
00:17:46
general conclusions is a very big mistake, it
00:17:48
would always be well and simply wrong. But
00:17:51
for myself I can tell you that I see
00:17:53
only one way out to help with money not
00:17:56
just for a humanitarian purpose, but to
00:17:59
help with money for the arsenal of the
00:18:01
Ukrainian army, I don’t see any other way out, to be
00:18:03
honest, for anyone now to
00:18:04
pay money so that Ukraine can
00:18:08
win
00:18:10
because there is no other force in the world now
00:18:12
except Ukraine that can defeat Putin
00:18:15
and the rest of the world is simply
00:18:17
helping Ukraine defeat the next
00:18:20
Hitler. Well, just all that
00:18:22
any normal person who
00:18:24
is not in Russia can do is that a person
00:18:25
in Russia for this
00:18:26
automatically leaves for 20 years or for
00:18:28
life, now the new law is
00:18:31
to give money for a cartridge Well then Yes, do you
00:18:34
agree with, for example, Moldova or
00:18:36
Georgia? Yes, who say that they want
00:18:39
Russia to leave Transnistria after the victory of Ukraine,
00:18:42
Russia where it
00:18:46
occupied Abkhazia. Sorry, Lavrov
00:18:48
said today in his direct text
00:18:50
that
00:18:52
Moldova
00:18:54
risks becoming a country which also he
00:18:58
used the formula I don’t remember exactly how the
00:19:00
combination sounded like a
00:19:05
formula that was used by the
00:19:08
same Lavrov before the war in
00:19:10
Ukraine, used to explain
00:19:13
what will happen to Ukraine, that is, he
00:19:15
used exactly the
00:19:16
same formulation that was used
00:19:20
before the war with Ukraine. It’s clear
00:19:22
that Lavrov actually said Moldova You’re
00:19:24
next,
00:19:26
it’s just clear already now it’s absolutely
00:19:29
perfect if they achieve their
00:19:31
goal this year they capture the south of Ukraine
00:19:34
the southern region reaches the border with
00:19:37
Transnistria
00:19:38
Moldova loses sovereignty this comparison
00:19:41
will be on the map in the form in which it
00:19:43
exists now and this is only
00:19:45
about Moldova, we don’t know which ones yet
00:19:48
drinking the blood of
00:19:50
Putin, the story with appetites will develop there
00:19:52
because until
00:19:55
we see how the sanctions work, we
00:19:58
will not be able to understand where the limit is, where is the bottom of
00:19:59
this junta, relatively speaking, the sanctions
00:20:02
work, it’s not true that they don’t work,
00:20:04
they just work very slowly, this
00:20:06
year will most likely show How exactly this
00:20:08
is happening, but
00:20:11
if Ukraine is somehow
00:20:14
not
00:20:15
forced to retreat this year or does not
00:20:17
achieve success in the war, then the next
00:20:20
country that is already known will start
00:20:22
fighting and I’m afraid that Putin’s
00:20:25
troops will pass through Moldova faster than
00:20:27
Ukraine, just take over, that is, the
00:20:29
only one who can to help
00:20:31
Romania, we further understand that
00:20:33
Romania’s participation in the war is a big question
00:20:34
because NATO and everything else. In short,
00:20:37
either now or
00:20:40
Europe will
00:20:44
look very bad and pale for a certain number of decades, and I am
00:20:48
sure that this is what ultimately
00:20:50
became the decisive factor in the fact that
00:20:53
Germany begins to provide assistance with
00:20:55
really heavy weapons and
00:20:57
so on and so on, and not Biden’s persuasion at all,
00:20:59
I think that he understands everything perfectly well,
00:21:03
you know. What a thing, there is an example of
00:21:05
Austria in the twentieth century, which, after the
00:21:08
defeat of Hitler Germany,
00:21:11
managed in this way Well, managed to turn
00:21:15
out to be a country that survived fascist
00:21:18
occupation they participants of the Hitler
00:21:20
coalition shots relations with Stalin
00:21:22
in such a way that it seems like the monument to
00:21:24
Alyosha stood in the decentralized
00:21:26
center of the city and at the same time it seems like
00:21:28
Austrian capitalism developed like that,
00:21:31
yes But
00:21:33
for this It was interesting it was
00:21:38
necessary for Stalin in the first place not for
00:21:40
Austria, I assume so if to seriously
00:21:42
talk about this to
00:21:43
every country, to count on the fact that he
00:21:45
will be able to come to an agreement with Putin, just as the author
00:21:48
managed to come to an agreement with Stalin after the
00:21:50
Second World War, it
00:21:51
seems to me that now it’s not really worth counting on.
00:21:53
Can I ask you a question at the end, I
00:21:55
understand that the answer to it may be about a
00:21:57
very strange there won’t be enough airtime for a long time, but
00:21:59
you As a journalist, I’m addressing you as a journalist,
00:22:01
in fact, do you think the
00:22:03
trial and reparations can become an inoculation in the future
00:22:06
to prevent
00:22:09
this in the future, based on the experience of the Second World War,
00:22:11
because because Goebel
00:22:14
won again this time, listen I’ll tell you
00:22:17
a little differently, the court of reparation and
00:22:19
military defeat is the only thing that
00:22:21
can save Russia and provide it with a
00:22:24
happy future.
00:22:26
But I’ll still add fear and punishment
00:22:29
for war crimes in the future or the
00:22:32
power of education, because again I
00:22:34
’ll say that death won, that is,
00:22:36
Propaganda won over common sense and
00:22:38
thinking people,
00:22:40
I started with punishment for a crime, and
00:22:45
education and a change in ideology
00:22:49
follows from this, they are the other way around
00:22:51
because we just saw in the example of
00:22:52
what is happening now with Russia and
00:22:54
Ukraine that no matter how
00:22:55
wonderful education is no matter how much money
00:22:57
you invest in humanitarian projects And
00:23:00
all this flies away like dust as soon as
00:23:02
there are several crazy people
00:23:05
who want to get drunk on blood and nothing
00:23:07
can be done with them. Unfortunately,
00:23:11
only mental strength and
00:23:13
physical strength can be opposed against forces;
00:23:14
this is really fair. Thank you for the
00:23:17
frank conversation Timur Alevsky,
00:23:18
chief news editor of the
00:23:20
Insider publication, was with us on the air. Thank you again

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