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categorically welcome you not also good
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afternoon greetings to everyone who is she
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categorically categorically haven’t seen for a long time
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booklet
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both shtof booklet about Katyn let
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Katyn before the lie became history didn’t
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want this last one didn’t want to write
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about Kote for
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some reason it’s boring because how
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there would be no secrets, who killed it, it wasn’t clear
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from the very beginning that it was the Germans
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who tried, but when where was the course of the plane with the
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Polish government, I realized that no, I’ll
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have to, of course, love the
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Poles or things, well, just as an indication
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from above, you can say about just thinking about it
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I want to probably need this plane,
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what are you going to do and so what is the rental about and
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not, but Citizen Goebels is drawn,
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this is why and Citizen Goebels here we have
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the main character who
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stirred up this whole thing somewhere in the second half of
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April 1943,
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he is now on saying everyone was surprised it does
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n’t know or retells or read
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paradise honors the majority don’t know
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anything yes that’s why I want to read at
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least partially On April 13, 1943 at 9:15 am
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Berlin radio broadcasts and Smolensk
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reports that the local population indicated to the
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German authorities that instead of secret mass
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executions
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carried out Bolsheviks and where the Goths
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destroyed 10 thousand Polish SBU officers,
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these are the details okay, the
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German troops went to the cathedral, a
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Soviet health resort located 16
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kilometers west of Smolensk, where a
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terrible discovery took place,
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they discovered pits 28 meters long,
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16 meters wide, in which
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12 layers of Polish corpses were laid officers the
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presence of three thousand on the pipes was in full
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military uniform and so on and so on and on and
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on in general
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this is a description of a terrible terrible villain there
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were no bruises
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well this is definitely an atrocity yes but I don’t
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approve of this atrocity of the Bolsheviks ours
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from such at first a little crap or the
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Bolsheviks no one they didn’t shoot, but
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after for the officers, why do you understand that
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any action and in politics have an hour of knives, I
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must have a motive, I will speak on the
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part of the idiots, let’s do this very well,
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and as usual, Dmitry at the Foreign Ministry, I have been doing this for a long time,
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they acted as indicators for
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always giving way to this, it turns out
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Well, every action should have
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a motive if we were talking about
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1937, well, I can believe that
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they killed the action of the Poles if there are 38 bodies,
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yes, but not 40 won for that is, this
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norm was for the Bolsheviks to shoot 10 thousand
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people, we are talking about repressions
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in the blue they said when we talk in
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general for 37 38 this is not just the norm
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this could be
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but in the thirty-ninth line I can’t help but
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ask a question
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there are such examples they dug up and here
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the Bolsheviks shot 10,000 people
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there are such using
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they dig up on you the failure of your father’s
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devastated by documents confirms does not
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argue bring this to the point, 650
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thousand people were shot, it’s proven, but it’s just that
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we have a system, I won’t call the frames of the court, no, well, that’s
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not the topic of repression, let’s
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better meet separately, we’ll
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talk about it separately, I’ll talk about it in
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1939, the repressions are
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long over, they were shot well in the
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thirty-eighth, but I need to
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dig up 40, it does
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n’t say in what year they were shot,
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that is, it is obvious that you shot
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when you could shoot prisoners of war
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Polish officers if the Polish campaign
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was in the thirty-ninth year tomorrow the old man
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of wax and you couldn’t shoot only
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after only after Germany
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attacked Poland and us, and Vaska
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also grew up there, so the Germans, I assure you, that they
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were shot in May of 1940, we
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now also have the prevailing point
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of view, after many years of efforts by the world
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community and our own
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traitors, in general, it was certainly not
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interesting to watch for It’s interesting
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to see the only one hanging when
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they talk about Katyn,
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we have a lot of discussion, chewing on the
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evidence that the NKVD dug up
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near Smolensk at the time, and don’t
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discuss it anywhere, don’t chew on German
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evidence, why
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was it not interesting
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to get acquainted with German
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evidence in the first place, returning to were there is a
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place for everything the name of the cats in
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this topic is mass graves, let them not call it that way
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here, but you call us Katyn forest,
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that’s what Katyn is called, or rather
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now the emphasis has shifted, I’m
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located mass graves
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there about some goats, something like the sound
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from the cathedral, that’s another name captcha then
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I don’t remember some capricorns, so in our country,
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too, the place can be called
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the flood of Sestroretsk, and all the same, this is the
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same place, in fact, in the spring of forty-
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three, the Germans dug up a hefty mass
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grave, announced
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that it was destroyed by the Bolsheviks, this is a
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mass grave, this is not a
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mass grave there are hefty burials there for
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several thousand people,
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that it was the evil Bolsheviks who destroyed it,
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which means the Polish officers whom they
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captured in September of the
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year thirty-nine, since it
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was really Polish officers who
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took Siberia in principle in the
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year thirty-nine, then it cannot be said there that you
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gave some kind of victim of the civil war and
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so on, they were in Polish uniforms,
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everything was proven to the question of who shot them,
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devoting 40 to Lenin after the start of the war,
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having heard
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such miracles, ours, of course, were terribly
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indignant, while the Polish
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government in exile, the so-called
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in London, she she would immediately shoot
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not gave me they told me what was necessary, but this matter
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needs to be investigated, said the Poles who
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were sitting in London about which steel
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was terribly indignant once again when he 100
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times you can even assume that it is we who are
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then breaking through with our own what kind of
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diplomatic relations really
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interrupted
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him for a long time Churchill and
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Roosevelt reassured me it is necessary, well, maybe
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maybe you won’t, in general, you didn’t reassure and
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thus this provocation
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began to gain momentum further, gained momentum,
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was promoted, was promoted in the end in
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the nineties and was promoted to a
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terrible state, they asked for a cross-cutting
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act that everyone knows that it was he who
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led the provocation, we’ll talk
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next time let's talk
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about the crime scene and the evidence for now,
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and so there is a crime scene in the
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year 1943, March 1943, the Germans
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announced this, ours took Smolensk only in
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September 1943, so we simply did
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n’t actually know what the Germans found there,
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what they dug up there, what they
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they present partisan intelligence, if there
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were any, somehow they couldn’t
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find out and therefore ours fought back, they
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mainly fought back until
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they took the city of Smolensk,
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the Germans killed their investigation for
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about 3 months, after which it was curtailed and for
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reasons that are not entirely clear, they got tired
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to do other things, then ours came and
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carried out their investigation, we had a so-
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called emergency state
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commission that dealt with everything
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that was done on our land in
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1941, from ours in the village, we’ll take
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away the ironing room, people came and from the attic they didn’t
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count in the village there were
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so many drivers to the houses so many - the Germans burned so many livestock
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and so many houses, an amount of such and such,
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so many cattle were lost there, an amount of such and such was lost, I
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think how many people were killed and all this is
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completely scrupulous and salt in a
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separate archive, this archive is to look at
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such things that the hair is then on the widow until
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the evening they
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don’t lie back, they stand on end like that, and
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so they stand on end, and accordingly,
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the representatives of the ChGK arrived from the moment
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they began to deal with mass graves
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and Smolensk came to a special
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commission, a special group of the NKVD
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which began to conduct its own
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investigation of the Katyn case against
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Vilanova little by little,
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and it was not Fisher who especially loved this case
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and by January by January the results of both the
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actions of the attic and effectively someone, in
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general, were presented to the public
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from them and so the Germans had already presented and what did
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ours present she treated and I
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can’t answer to die for the people it’s clear to me the
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panoramas are well known with
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which it was not this is more or less interesting,
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but what did the Germans present
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what evidence this seam in the entire
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press discusses only the evidence
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on the NKVD groups and there among the documents of
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the mountain in the middle of the Katyn folder there was a so-
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called German he is quite
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propaganda hotels he but there at
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least it is explained by the fact that they
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exactly found that means everything would be where to
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start to start let's start
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let's start with the witnesses said
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steps in every case there is a little man in the trench
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who what you saw know something and now
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the Germans claim that they spent their
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time years and found 12 witnesses from these 12
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they presented testimonies of families from these 7
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and 6 that did they present
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testimonies of 7 of these seven people
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who are more for the most part whatever you say
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don’t say that they didn’t see that
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Poles were brought to the station in prison,
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maybe where so in a single car In general, they
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said that it seemed as if the cars
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were turning into the Katyn forest and
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shots were heard from there,
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while about the cars they say
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completely different things, some Grisha were
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open and the trucks and others say that
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they were closed and the trucks were that the
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Poles were brought there later somewhere
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they sent it, but in fact it was never
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disputed by anyone, it was really
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brought in in the forties and the
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Soviet camp 23 became a
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prisoner of war camp, even three whole ones and one
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single witness, the grandfather there
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was 70 years old, who told the stomachs of himself
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that yes, I was approaching, I
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saw how to be extradited they shot the Poles, but what
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a misfortune you see,
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this grandfather told both the Germans and all
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the excursionists, but when ours approached
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Smolensk, the girls had a taste for the forest, he didn’t go to
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the table, he didn’t go with the Germans like the rest of the
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witnesses,
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alone soulless, when they came to sleep, a
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prize came out of the forest about a bank in I fell on my
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knees and repented of chopping off his head,
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dear security officers, I was in
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the Gestapo for a month, I couldn’t stand it and agreed,
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it shows what they told me,
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this is the price of a German witness, here’s how
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the operation works for me about this,
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we are a man, he can lie about this, he
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can lie about that he came to repent
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and then he lies
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health witness testimony did
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this further at least the Germans
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lost one witness of seven,
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well three, because out of these seven
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5 had not previously shown any crime they were
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transporting a left-handed person where they were taken does not
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know - they themselves did not they didn’t see anything at all,
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only grandfather video, our
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same three months of work, are we already in
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ruins, remember that in Smolensk, in
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my opinion, 107 people, more than a hundred
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witnesses, and there were different someone saw something,
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someone saw something, you understand someone,
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someone or someone - then there I was running into the barn and the Poles
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wandered in in September 41, so they were
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telling a story, a Pole ran in ta ta ta ta
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ta told
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someone, prisoners of war ran in who were
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digging up corpses, they also
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told something to someone Vaseline and the grave they didn’t
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talk to but they saw it there for example,
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a person in a trial over the export of the city of Smolensk
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who saw the corpse itself, say
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nothing like this could not have been
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lying on the ground for three years, and I’m telling you as a professional,
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someone noticed the little things to the stats, that
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their hands were tied, that their
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shoulder straps were shining, in total there were 107 witnesses
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who each in their little things
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they showed something, that is, such people
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who would stand near the execution chamber
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and we watched the process, there were also no 3
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liters of beer, for example, I would
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immediately have aroused suspicions that the advancing
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German troops had captured the city of
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Smolensk and did not encounter people who
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they hate the Soviet regime and in order to
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successfully fit in, they came running and didn’t
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say that here the Bolsheviks
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shot 10 thousand people, this is a
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huge number they tied tightly,
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but it’s been three years since they came running here, I
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won’t tell you about the brave
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witnesses who didn’t quite stand on
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almost we stood there, there were three girls
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who worked in the house not through the
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place of executions in the same Katyn forest,
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it was further from the NKVD where it was based,
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no one, a certain German military unit, they had a
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yard there, miles, potatoes, peeling the organ, firewood,
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calories, they were already doing auxiliary work,
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they heard and saw a lot of girls were
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young 16 25 years old if scared to death
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heard a lot
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remembered
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heard how they were shooting in the forest and how the car
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arrived and how on certain days they
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came there you can even tell in more detail and
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now tell what they didn’t see on
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Thursday they took away there was a NKVD dacha
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whose clouds are military part and they
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took three girls there, a slave, a servant, or else we spent the night in the
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morning, brought them in the evening,
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owned them back home, they
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all drowned along one path through
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the forest, what did they notice, they noticed that
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from time to time there was no snow
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somewhere in September, the shine on the share passed
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several trucks
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before that, in the forest, shots were heard with
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so many single shots, then I
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arrive, I will cover the trucks,
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at that time they were preparing a
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double lunch for everyone there on the trucks,
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respectively, there were soldiers, non-commissioned officers,
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Qatar, commanding officer, here is one
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Kappelya bar and then everyone was drinking,
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they noticed two and friend or off
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who were drunk others stained with
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blood these these things they noticed they
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made according to this conclusion
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the cold came that in this forest they
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upset someone once they saw so they were
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leading a column of Poles there just soaring
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high I don’t know they were repairing my road and
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presli striped they shot the Poles and
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all this they tried to bring them in, well, they
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also ran away in the forest, and then we did
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n’t reach ours yet, they told us that there
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were three pretty decent
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witnesses,
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we’ll cover it anyway against the Germans 8
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to sit or ours would have put 107 which
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at least seemed like they
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did it even a little bit It seems to me that the Germans
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worked convincing documents in this case,
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no,
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I can’t be more convincing, can’t you convince them, they
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can also lie about him, as you
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understand, maybe they also
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kept someone in the cells, beat them,
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and they said what the Inca had to say
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water here is a question about corpses, I immediately
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feel the droppings with slings, the structure was
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interesting, the main part of the German
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material is this ship, this is the examination of the so-
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called doctor boots, and then such a
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rather serious
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center in their army group by
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a pathologist who headed
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several offices, including one of them
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about the
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Bolshevik research the so-
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called stars, not just trying to follow
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what I’m talking about is that it was forty-first that
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should have been immediately after the capture, but he
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did the research I did low,
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strangely, literally, in my opinion, on
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February 28 and the grandfather who lived in the forest gave the
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first testimony right there literally on the
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first the tasks went to Dr. Bus,
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the front of the work said yes, the task was 29 I
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was sent to the forest by an assistant, they
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moved some kind of hut from the forest to
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work in the warmth for a month, he didn’t
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show up there for a month, the assistants naturally did
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n’t show up for a month either,
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pressol cut cut cut cut cut
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that the robe of the crowd
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lying nearby for three years in the ground until
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because the vessel text to the first sexual how to
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deal with racism with humat accompanied it is
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not entirely clear how much he cut, but he
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dashed off such a huge report and
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the researcher was not so delighted; he had never
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dealt with bodies in mass graves before.
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it happens completely differently in
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singles, he described it all in detail,
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tell it, it’s not necessary just
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stains, sorry to spoil it, and why such a
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question is there Russian, here’s the conclusion he made
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absolutely wonderful, he investigated,
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he got there, and the conclusion sounds something like this:
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when these people were shot, my science
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is unknown because this subject is a
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German reiki was not examined, what
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he said, I don’t know from Morrison, indirect
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data now and how our pathologist worked, we
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came here in January, which means that a more
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representative group there led by the
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Prozorovsky Cape Artemka was almost
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the main court over the export of the Soviet
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Union, very serious people, they began to
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cut again the corpses
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were examined somewhere by one and a half thousand corpses
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and what’s interesting is that they didn’t find any
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traces of work to touch,
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of these one and a half thousand there wasn’t
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a single one that was opened, sorry, the Germans
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opened the burials, first to take the
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corpses out of there, you need to cut them up and where they
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flowed back to the club or nearby something
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you wrote for her, they didn’t take tinder,
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they looked at it, they examined it
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and then they kind of buried it like a human being,
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it’s not like you reburied them, they put up
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a monument, they did
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n’t approve it, but also because, that
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is, it turned out to be the second burial
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that was excavated by ours, we just need an
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engineer’s flight and burial, but there are no
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traces of that that someone was cutting it there,
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they didn’t find it, and it was only on the neck,
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or they had already invited some
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Americans to the British, only ours,
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only to ours, the British and the Americans were
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n’t particularly eager, but they snapped, they weren’t eager to
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invite, then you can invite 3 services, but they didn’t
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invite you, well, Well, if
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steel had been on the time machine, both wheels
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had invited, but since the Germans laid down
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450 thousand civilians near Smolensk, not counting the soldiers, there
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was no particular reason to think that the
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officers had the ability of thousands of them, so we will have left
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. I knew from this they wouldn’t make
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any traces of
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work from the Baisangur provocation, they found work, but the fact is
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that we had this experience, our
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pathologist 41 did only that,
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they opened mass graves
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and brought to light and described from how, in
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my opinion,
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Burdenko is the head of the step I wrote that I had collected a
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collection of twenty-five skulls of
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Soviet people, but they were killed by Germans
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with a shot in the back of the head,
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let us hardly have a quarrel at all, the
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collections were used and were
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completely dulled by such terrible work,
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but their work was not good; they knew him only with
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this and were engaged in digging up graves and
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walking around the bodies and our experience had
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our achievements, naturally they would not
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say what and not and how the mind and the fortieth
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year refined
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killed would not be after the start of the war,
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that is, much later there were
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other interesting results, for example, but I
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myself will tell you therefore, since the
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doctor will say that in science this
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unknown continued to refer to
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other German evidence of other
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German evidence there were two, namely
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that in the pockets of the corpses there were no
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letters, newspapers, documents
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dated after after the fortieth year,
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this is all the documents and various
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papers found in the pockets of
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the executed, they do not understand how the
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absence is today can serve as
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evidence, we rummaged around, looked and
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found out 100,
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well, how is the treasure buried and the last tax coin
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is, for example,
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853 years old, from this we can conclude
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that after this, somewhere around 800,
00:22:02
ours began to look,
00:22:03
they found out that somewhere in early March
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43 They took several thousand hookahs from the camp and
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took them back somewhere, they didn’t
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return, several people of them
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escaped, again today in the barns, was it
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appropriate for you to tell them the teeth and
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weight
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that they weren’t forced to tear up
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mass graves, pull out
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corpses and pull them out to get away from the
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corpse in your pockets and then the Germans walked around with
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something else, you put something else in your pockets and
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then dumped them again, and behind the grave
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they told the place there were two or
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three witnesses, but you must agree that
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for us there are only devastated territories, two
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or three witnesses have done this
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a lot Naturally, the prisoners were then
00:22:43
destroyed by the polytechnic fugitives, we'll lead them
00:22:46
too, they were caught, they were shot, that is, they themselves and
00:22:49
on the sine row in us and our daughters sounded like this was what
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happened to him,
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especially our exports when they began to
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seriously search the ruble, of course, if a
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bunch of everything because the stress of how many
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Sega pockets they can’t in every
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person, in every pocket, rummage around to
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find naturally the middle letters that
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dated the forty-first year on the light of the
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receipts, for example, this is the answer
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dancing 100 like this before the prisoner in the
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thirty-ninth year the gold watches were taken for
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storage 41 before these watches
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were sold to a jewelry store you also gave him
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a receipt about apparently German, you also
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gave it to the girls, having spent a storey to save the
00:23:27
Soviet power, this is how they treated
00:23:30
dishonest polyps before the Soviet government
00:23:32
treated the unfortunate and the Poles of
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Comrade Beria, there was an office
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documented
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there, not a single coin was lost, you have
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a sense of value, naturally,
00:23:43
they took everything nicely Grandfather was kept there sleeping
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fortunately I'm a poet if they wished they could
00:23:48
apparently be sold that is, of course us
00:23:53
or the document is dated and
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well, that is, here purely logically yes if
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they claim that they shot more than 10,000
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people or 10,000 people early from
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Humerovo or one and a half, that is,
00:24:04
apparently either the top layer or
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some edge
00:24:07
then all the rest remained as they were and
00:24:10
in their pockets they found all sorts of where are these
00:24:12
ten thousand people 10 thousand is a copper
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from what was said it is not clear how many of
00:24:18
them there were 10 Jacob and the people Seth was called by
00:24:22
Dr. De Beers Doctor the paths will be written off
00:24:24
that they were divorced and my case was
00:24:26
somewhere there was a little less than four and a
00:24:29
half thousand more no graves
00:24:31
were torn up no corpses we were looking for
00:24:33
nothing was from somewhere 10,000 it’s not entirely
00:24:38
clear we are talking about some kind of one 2816
00:24:41
this is one grave there were seven graves, the
00:24:43
rest were simply significantly less than
00:24:45
1 point 2 and a half thousand corpses
00:24:48
of the rest if 2000 are needed a bunch of 6 well, they looked at them and
00:24:54
they were torn apart, they didn’t
00:24:56
find anything else there, where did 10,000 come from, it wasn’t
00:24:59
told to anyone at all, only Dr. Gears, and
00:25:02
accordingly, then there was picked up there
00:25:06
were more funny cases, for example in the
00:25:10
city of Kalina there was one in the pants of a marial
00:25:13
who in the 90s began to say that
00:25:15
they also shot the Poles, this is
00:25:18
10,000 Katyn 10 thousand and in Kallen 10 so that the
00:25:21
matter was not visible then to entertain the
00:25:23
documents they found out that in Colin sent
00:25:25
only six thousand Poles
00:25:26
what to do but not in the location
00:25:29
they said that well up to 6 thousand Poles four
00:25:32
thousand of ours that’s how it
00:25:33
works with numbers memories
00:25:38
well there the boss admitted how he lied
00:25:40
all the way look let’s talk
00:25:44
next time there was such a show from the
00:25:46
rank and file employees it’s difficult that
00:25:48
anything else,
00:25:51
well, the Germans
00:25:53
only dug up 4300 according to my friend without
00:25:59
[ __ ], no one else saw ours in
00:26:02
my opinion we weighed less so most likely it was
00:26:05
hardly 8 4000 besides it was and the number is
00:26:10
walking around very different in this 4300 named by
00:26:13
the doctor I myself, up to 22,000, which are generally
00:26:16
unclear where they came from, I don’t know
00:26:20
if there were 22 thousand officers in all the Polish army,
00:26:21
I’m wondering, but there’s
00:26:25
no water if it was shot and who
00:26:27
I didn’t even care about, somehow I’m
00:26:32
always in some confusion here
00:26:34
you you accept the gold watch in Adobe
00:26:37
you sell it legally you give money to the
00:26:42
prisoner but as the prisoner himself
00:26:45
you take into account no and let’s say the
00:26:48
Soviet government handed him a death
00:26:51
sentence to the prisoner
00:26:53
there I am of course my knowledge is
00:26:57
minimal
00:26:58
in the field of executions by the NKVD but there must be a
00:27:01
verdict and the doctor is the prosecutor the case
00:27:04
should in some way be for a witness with the
00:27:07
prosecutor, is it not always a testimony,
00:27:10
at least the verdict itself should
00:27:11
be no
00:27:13
and the verdict should be the result will give you
00:27:16
from let in the thirty-seventh
00:27:18
year cases of mass executions were
00:27:20
limited simply
00:27:22
without a doctor, miss prosecutor,
00:27:24
some kind of certificate should be dispensed with be harsh that
00:27:27
1 3 the certificate was in a recent photograph
00:27:29
for a good doctor and there is no prosecutor, but the
00:27:31
certificate should just be on this
00:27:34
card, everything is filled out, well, it’s done,
00:27:37
sit there fly on the card there should be us
00:27:39
according to which it was executed there should be
00:27:41
documents, for example, that these same the
00:27:44
captured Poles were placed here before
00:27:48
they were brought by
00:27:50
rail here and here they were
00:27:52
transported in a semi-truck there by sea, moreover,
00:27:55
all the most interesting things and Smolensk
00:27:57
Smolensk he got someone from the Germans he
00:27:59
didn’t have time to lead you
00:28:00
the Germans didn’t share a single piece of paper on this topic
00:28:03
Well, here the discoveries are even more interesting
00:28:06
for many, but in general all these
00:28:09
mass executions, not mass ones, took place
00:28:11
according to the law and there are documents for everything,
00:28:14
since there is a document, then in general it’s
00:28:17
sane to put it together, look, they themselves
00:28:21
admit to everything, damned NCOs, you see
00:28:23
Nikita they killed them
00:28:24
even if we assume, for example, that it
00:28:27
was some kind of shooting range of the NKVD
00:28:29
and they shot there a check of 500 or maybe a thousand,
00:28:32
this lies in the archives and having captured this case, the
00:28:37
disheveled regions should not have shown it right away, so you yourself
00:28:40
admitted it, this is the best
00:28:41
proof and there is nothing, you know, there
00:28:45
was such a bureaucracy, for example, in one
00:28:48
of the camps, and a soldier ran away, not an officer, a
00:28:52
soldier loyal in the ninth year, a
00:28:55
sentry noticed him, ran after him for a long time
00:28:57
across his face,
00:28:58
only a soldier shot him, yes, there was the
00:29:01
first investigation for everything, they checked,
00:29:03
they unsubscribed from such a one. paper slightly carry
00:29:05
my goods of Siberia that solo on their
00:29:07
right a month later they arrived again
00:29:10
checked again signed off comrade
00:29:12
Beria that giving everything to the soldier was his
00:29:14
rule such was the bureaucracy of the cold and in
00:29:16
general
00:29:17
I entered the knocked men and I don’t understand
00:29:21
how it is to the martyr the crayons are even and for
00:29:24
perhaps there was a ton of paper put in there but not
00:29:27
presented strangely from here the
00:29:31
conclusion arises that someone else shot them
00:29:35
further on you know the Germans
00:29:37
they also haven’t captured German
00:29:40
documents pronouncing gunshots
00:29:42
there are hundreds of you civilians there is a grave there are
00:29:44
documents for me this is a grave and in the middle of the
00:29:47
beach they didn’t need documents, they had a
00:29:49
slightly different approach, well,
00:29:51
perhaps there is one very clear one
00:29:55
that allows you to identify the
00:29:56
grave, usually there is one sign
00:29:58
if there is at least one children’s pipes, these are
00:30:00
the Germans in our graves, children’s corpses, I
00:30:03
can never be against construction,
00:30:05
so for the most part they want child
00:30:08
labor, so there is no talk anymore,
00:30:10
who shot the question, a controversial issue, we have
00:30:14
children to mortals to the wall, sentencing them will not
00:30:17
help put it there later, in the order of
00:30:20
provocation, of course they could,
00:30:22
okay, let's go further, Katya, he also has
00:30:26
Germans' evidence, and the Germans have
00:30:28
evidence, Christmas trees, Christmas trees, the doctor's
00:30:34
boots are not only the doctor will be they assured
00:30:36
that after shooting they will shoot the
00:30:39
unfortunate Poles the Chekist bastards planted
00:30:43
Christmas trees over their graves and then presenting these Christmas trees
00:30:46
next to the Tarbut will write off
00:30:48
how pathetic they are, these cut down ones
00:30:49
made on him, they
00:30:52
are divided with only three annual rings
00:30:54
and a black core, they lay there like
00:30:56
that all the unfortunate people
00:30:59
have practically signed off on who killed for
00:31:01
one simple reason,
00:31:02
imagine what we have to do, let’s say in
00:31:06
May they kill us, they shoot us already
00:31:09
plant Christmas trees, what do people do, they
00:31:12
go into the forest correctly,
00:31:13
they pick this one up there and new pine trees
00:31:16
actually went into the forest and
00:31:19
dug up this and Vova is a teenager, and not a
00:31:22
three-year-old because in order for the girls to be
00:31:25
transplanted onto what they could at least grab hold of,
00:31:27
which of the three-year-olds there, according to the principles there, they
00:31:29
dug up trees there from 2 to 5
00:31:32
years old, they planted some, they started, some didn’t
00:31:35
start, then they cut them down
00:31:38
and they were all in the first place or they must be of
00:31:40
different ages, they are all three years old, this is
00:31:43
the first thing, but if they are all the same age, it is
00:31:46
absolutely clear where they came from,
00:31:48
imagine March 43 before
00:31:51
the idea comes to them, let someone check this
00:31:53
trick with Christmas trees this snowdrifts day and there
00:31:56
they will crawl under the snowdrifts looking for him,
00:31:58
you have grown up and they do this, the nearest
00:32:00
nursery takes a certain amount of these
00:32:05
three summer pines there, kiba trembling
00:32:08
alice they planted and cut them down and
00:32:11
spread the word about it, but they were mistaken
00:32:14
because in the first place the pines were three years old, that
00:32:15
is, also the security officer no longer created the seeds in the
00:32:17
forties secondly, it’s correct
00:32:20
that all of them are of no age; in
00:32:22
fact, they signed up;
00:32:24
they themselves were the organizer of the provocation;
00:32:27
and then, of course, they began to get out
00:32:31
that this dark ring was like a
00:32:33
trace of a transplant,
00:32:35
but no one saw these trees growing and
00:32:38
could not see them because there was a treasure there
00:32:40
in March, what kind of snowdrifts are there in the winter of 41
00:32:45
42, the answer is a Christmas tree, and there are no
00:32:49
adults in sight, only half
00:32:51
the idea is what they notice, they became the roof
00:32:57
came out with cartridges, of course, when
00:33:01
when they poured out, they found, by the way, surprisingly
00:33:04
little, which is even strange, but that’s not the point,
00:33:07
how did they fed,
00:33:09
executed everyone with the same shot at the back of the head,
00:33:13
the handwriting of the NKVD is a broker of the NKVD and the Germans,
00:33:18
this is actually the most
00:33:21
effective way of solving for life above, they die
00:33:23
right away, it
00:33:25
will be, and not at all atrocities, it will
00:33:28
melt, but on the contrary,
00:33:30
in this case, it’s like even the most a
00:33:32
humane method of execution Dmitry there is no need to talk about the
00:33:37
humaneness of execution at all when
00:33:39
reading the novel Gadfly Vitara remember the execution scene,
00:33:43
but this is what happens when they put a platoon of
00:33:47
decrees on the gate, rifles in their hands
00:33:50
tremble, no one knows how else this is an
00:33:53
industrial method of eliminating people this is
00:33:56
not a novel from Cuba this is not a
00:33:59
novel not a documentary evidence is
00:34:01
not what you finally have in common, I think that
00:34:07
not only they, in principle, most likely
00:34:09
they castrated all over Europe, where would
00:34:12
you believe and now they are shooting, is it
00:34:14
possible?
00:34:16
Well, there are specific things that were for
00:34:21
this, it was interesting, it was convenient for the cartridge, it’s
00:34:25
written that they found German cartridges from the
00:34:29
765 cartridge, 7 millimeter
00:34:31
cartridges from the company of the powers, and then the Germans
00:34:35
begin to explain for a long time
00:34:36
how the cartridges, holding the company, got to the
00:34:40
Russians, but they ended up so where -
00:34:43
in 1930, the Russians bought a batch of
00:34:47
765 caliber gokuderu cartridges in a glass, in
00:34:52
pairs, while I was waiting for a pistol, but it doesn’t
00:34:57
say what kind of pistol it was, it was
00:35:00
a pistol and a revolver, the key thing was
00:35:03
that from the entire arsenal of weapons that
00:35:06
were used in the NKVD, caliber 765
00:35:10
was suitable only for a Browning, but
00:35:13
naturally, before the forties, the security officers
00:35:15
already had their service weapon,
00:35:17
or a pistol, this fish, a revolver revolver,
00:35:19
of course they gave it round, and not only the
00:35:22
Brownings, they had a
00:35:25
huge amount of material evidence, they used it,
00:35:26
well, whoever was given the Brownings, they didn’t give it to
00:35:29
the investigator, an expert there who doesn’t
00:35:32
shoot do them to doesn’t shoot
00:35:34
only instructs them at the shooting range when on June 22,
00:35:37
1941 they bombed a field with
00:35:39
security officers who were the sauce of Belarus in the
00:35:42
direction of Leningrad,
00:35:43
well, you don’t shoot, people of course
00:35:46
forgot their weapons themselves rushed to the exit then they
00:35:48
passed with weapons and collected them
00:35:49
there was a bunch of them in general everything
00:35:53
anything didn’t understand anything who
00:35:55
rushed where who 30 Bombay train
00:35:58
naturally investigators experts
00:35:59
accountants and everyone else rushed to the
00:36:01
exit, mostly forgetting about their service
00:36:03
weapons, but they would have been people who weren’t shooting they
00:36:06
had no brains that they took the gun and ran
00:36:08
then when they were dismantling they were sorting out the
00:36:12
rubble they passed and collected all lying around
00:36:15
unattended and a pistol and a revolver and all the
00:36:17
others collected everything in a heap in this heap there
00:36:19
was everything there and Brownings whatever
00:36:22
there was not any antiques but the
00:36:26
shooters excuse me are crazy
00:36:29
100 everyone was fascinated by the service
00:36:31
weapon if this or the leg one I don’t
00:36:34
remember who who that but one had caliber
00:36:36
762 2 763
00:36:38
but of course it doesn’t
00:36:40
know what to explain, it’s not about the caliber of the departments, they just have a
00:36:42
different shape of the cartridge case in these cartridges
00:36:44
and they clearly fit
00:36:48
certain weapons, that is, if
00:36:52
ours could not shoot only from
00:36:54
Brownings Brown, where they stopped being
00:36:55
produced in the First World War and
00:36:57
of course it is very very wonderful
00:37:01
to carry out mass executions with
00:37:03
antique weapons
00:37:04
10 years old, cartridges that had failed in warehouses
00:37:06
stopped us, but
00:37:09
you can write it was necessary to write a question about the bullet,
00:37:12
what kind of shell was there without just
00:37:14
lead no, this was not studied on
00:37:17
the field is practically not us, we won’t go, they
00:37:18
were raked out,
00:37:19
no, this is some kind of powerful cartridge, that
00:37:23
is, if it’s good, for example, representatives of the
00:37:29
Italian mafia communities in the USA
00:37:32
really loved cartridges, like from small things,
00:37:36
small bullets there are just lead and
00:37:39
when you shoot in the back of the head, it
00:37:41
flies into the brain the other side of the
00:37:46
skull and, accordingly, without cutting
00:37:48
anything there, the examination was not a question of
00:37:50
secrecy, no one thought about
00:37:52
the area, it’s true that it’s a puddle, but here it’s a powerful
00:37:55
cartridge and most likely I but
00:38:00
most likely shot through my fingers through the head and
00:38:02
right through it, which is why there are no bullets in the skulls, which is why
00:38:06
the cartridge may be too powerful
00:38:10
I don’t know the establishments, I didn’t see them, but the field itself was
00:38:12
not found by future Christians, or
00:38:15
they found you,
00:38:16
and the Germans wrote in the report to hover the cartridge
00:38:19
for one reason because
00:38:21
you began to actively poison them, after all, all the excursionists
00:38:24
who conducted them did not bring us all the commissions
00:38:27
for the Polish commission he keeps the
00:38:29
salt and steals the data, they were taken away, but I’m with
00:38:32
you that it’s not possible to hide it, it means that it is necessary to
00:38:33
explain somehow, but they explained
00:38:36
it, but it was just one weapon
00:38:39
that fit perfectly along the M7 765 highway,
00:38:43
this is the famous Voltaire from the
00:38:48
apartment to the trout stage of Voltaire, clearly
00:38:50
therefore in Karpinsk and provocations, then a
00:38:53
suitcase of bikers appeared that someone
00:38:56
brought to secrecy in the forties, I
00:38:58
will tell it perfectly, but
00:39:00
next time, and our pathologist,
00:39:03
we have even more interesting things, when they
00:39:06
began to measure the holes, they did not find out that it was
00:39:08
not a very large part, but somewhere
00:39:10
percent 20 25 and 450 but already 15 income
00:39:17
income 2
00:39:18
they were shot from large-caliber
00:39:20
weapons at risk or more than 8 millimeters,
00:39:23
but there are simply no large-caliber weapons in the Soviet
00:39:26
Union, it appeared only
00:39:29
during the war only as a trophy, this is
00:39:32
from the Germans even when they
00:39:36
purchased it in the thirties years, a batch of
00:39:39
parabellums from large-caliber Europe were
00:39:41
immediately converted to the Session 765 cartridge,
00:39:44
we didn’t produce pistols, we did
00:39:47
n’t produce the khiem cartridge, we didn’t
00:39:49
just not use them, so
00:39:52
the paste eludes me a little, well,
00:39:56
if we assume that it was the evil security officers
00:39:59
who brought the villainous German pistols and
00:40:03
loaded them they were villainously my with German
00:40:05
cartridges and the villainous ones shot the
00:40:07
Poles, what is the point of the ass
00:40:09
eluding me, the only option is
00:40:12
if they are classified and shot according to the law, it is
00:40:16
somehow unclear why there is a
00:40:20
revolver there, by the way, just
00:40:23
lead bullets are
00:40:25
very convenient and very good
00:40:26
trouble-free, what is the point of using this
00:40:29
of this, everything is a little different there,
00:40:33
ours like it, they say they killed us and they
00:40:37
tell him, but the shell casings
00:40:38
are for the commune, the pistol is only
00:40:40
suitable for the apartment, is the sea suitable for the faces, they say, well, ours
00:40:43
was brought in by Walter because they
00:40:46
tell him better, uncle val coach, the hole was
00:40:49
such an important operation that they bought it
00:40:51
here who - some kind of flight of thought, that’s
00:40:54
exactly the kind of flight of thought that hell needs to
00:40:56
be multiplied by the essence around that’s the kind of
00:40:58
flight of Muslims there, we have a dash like that, that’s exactly what’s
00:41:02
going on, and
00:41:07
somehow I’m lost, but here’s ten
00:41:10
thousand people to shoot, 2 minimum, you need
00:41:13
10 thousand rounds of ammunition at least as a rule, there are a
00:41:16
few more
00:41:18
pistols, we will have to talk about ten
00:41:20
thousand from because in the world once you
00:41:22
said 10 means 10 to sara means water
00:41:26
secondly this is how many
00:41:29
personnel are needed at what speed they are
00:41:32
shot there in what crowds of them
00:41:34
private logistics but primitive
00:41:37
how many this went on like this in general
00:41:41
I’m talking about this hi-q logistics and in the
00:41:44
book but I won’t giggle here anymore
00:41:46
because these are calculations
00:41:48
there everywhere everywhere calculations are different all this
00:41:51
was calculated by anyone who wants to let him read
00:41:53
the tick me even the other one escapes well
00:41:55
they drove it I don’t know there are 300 to 300
00:42:00
500 people, by the way, in this
00:42:04
case they are military, that is, people
00:42:07
who were taught to kill other people and in
00:42:11
general, despite the fact that they are Poles,
00:42:14
strong, stern men and all that, and so
00:42:18
they brought in 500 people, but how did you
00:42:20
collect them they didn’t talk,
00:42:22
judging by the testimony of the girls, the girls
00:42:24
were carried out in parties there of 25-30
00:42:26
people, several of them are not capable, they
00:42:32
were doing this for at least a month,
00:42:36
even if the patricians of wood chips
00:42:39
turned out to be 900, and so if there were several
00:42:41
parties, betrayal usually was, in
00:42:43
my opinion, two trucks, but accordingly
00:42:45
the trucks were prisoners plus the security turns out to be
00:42:47
40 50 people for not quickly, and what can we
00:42:52
say about you are looking for and what next,
00:42:57
but now the fun begins,
00:42:59
the most interesting, namely the area and the
00:43:03
German witnesses, they showed
00:43:06
that they climbed up the goat mountains, he was fenced in there was a
00:43:09
fenced ditch there also fenced there
00:43:12
was a terrible place called
00:43:13
DC NKVD so no one was allowed in, this is
00:43:17
already fun because
00:43:20
even 100, even near Stalin’s, a lot of people from
00:43:23
Niagara chewed limited to so much with a
00:43:25
three-meter fence, something was fenced off,
00:43:28
for example, a dacha with a forest on the chest is dark to
00:43:32
fence off here, in my opinion this is a
00:43:33
pleasure too, excuse me, not a
00:43:35
security facility, this is not a prison, this is Ninka
00:43:37
water, send me, what is meant by
00:43:40
Gatchina cradle to rest, house in the waters of the
00:43:43
NKVD, people go to rest, why the hell should they
00:43:45
rest, forgive me, behind the fence, and
00:43:46
sometimes someone is shot,
00:43:49
this is the shooting and buried in the yard
00:43:52
in general, but in fact, it’s really that
00:43:54
for this it’s not usually possible to relax with
00:43:56
families before the family, they’ll spare while I go
00:44:00
a little families have relationships with local
00:44:02
residents and there’s a build of
00:44:05
currant milk and 100 for yes, of course, the wife’s
00:44:08
bed of high-ranking creatures
00:44:09
will run for the fence will be all there
00:44:11
waiting for a peasant woman with milk from a dog,
00:44:13
of course it’s natural, like in general a Soviet
00:44:15
holiday home, the passage was
00:44:16
absolutely free. I lived in a military
00:44:19
town as a child, for example, it’s not a secure facility, not
00:44:22
really, but there was instant access from there,
00:44:25
you couldn’t just walk in from the street, that’s
00:44:28
what my grandmother brought milk to every morning,
00:44:31
my cat Vasya,
00:44:32
for example, there was a sensible code, he went to the checkpoint,
00:44:35
sat down, the thrush came, he
00:44:38
followed her with a show, knowing that she would call and
00:44:40
open the door to the rest homes, the Ministry of
00:44:44
Defense, there were no such miracles
00:44:46
about this normal sanatorium, he was in
00:44:49
rest homes and was there too
00:44:52
I didn’t see down on this, then I forget, even
00:44:57
if there is a computer,
00:44:58
well, in general, that this is not a sensitive
00:45:01
object, the
00:45:02
speech of secrecy is where you won’t be reduced by
00:45:04
the barrel of a machine gun, don’t let the
00:45:06
forests be treasured, it’s completely unnecessary, and
00:45:09
moreover, this was a place somewhere 14
00:45:11
kilometers from Smolensk
00:45:12
this the level is somewhere, if you make an
00:45:15
amendment our Kamushkin Sestroretsk before
00:45:19
that there was a summer cottage for a walking
00:45:23
place that a steamboat ran there, trains ran there
00:45:25
then you could come by bus,
00:45:27
mushroom pickers are visible somewhere, moreover,
00:45:30
practically at the place of execution in
00:45:32
1941 there was a pioneer camp, the thing
00:45:37
is that in the USSR there was a place there was an
00:45:40
organization that everyone was afraid of,
00:45:43
including the security officer, water, to guess who was so
00:45:45
terrible, great, terrible that dashenka
00:45:46
water was afraid of a python, a sanitary and epidemiological station, a
00:45:50
sanitary physiological service, he was
00:45:53
constantly shaken by epidemics of any kind,
00:45:55
and even more so, I consider it a success, for example,
00:45:59
I studied biographies
00:46:01
the development of driftwood, but in 1934, a
00:46:03
young healthy woman died of typhoid fever,
00:46:05
it’s very often typhus and
00:46:08
dysentery,
00:46:09
well, cholera, thank God, in these places it
00:46:12
wasn’t unclear,
00:46:14
gastrointestinal diseases were
00:46:16
the most scary, I can find everything about it
00:46:17
and what happens that
00:46:20
the security officer shot people there and
00:46:22
the sanitary and epidemiological station allowed the camp to be made
00:46:24
and the pioneers rolled up the brother died then the
00:46:27
giga anniversary of the graves of the rupture of the case there probably
00:46:30
were also wells because there was a water
00:46:32
supply to spend some time
00:46:35
storms at the hole for mineral water,
00:46:38
for example, under the authorities and according to the then
00:46:43
Soviet standards if you
00:46:45
will have a hole near the cemetery for mineral
00:46:47
water and bushes meters deep for at least 12
00:46:50
years from the moment of the last burial 12
00:46:53
years after that you can drill the girls so
00:46:55
no and the water will be contagious
00:46:57
and here they buried the phrase they are digging in order
00:47:01
moreover what will you take for them and why
00:47:04
do all this but what kind of pleasure is it to
00:47:05
do in the holiday home itself to
00:47:07
shoot someone, this is one question of the NKVD, they quite
00:47:10
clearly carried out a mass execution
00:47:12
not far from the city at the place you must
00:47:14
be deaf,
00:47:15
and also whether the Warsaw wasteland seems to be
00:47:17
near the village from Avliya, then in
00:47:19
fact it doesn’t really go around and this
00:47:24
was carried out everywhere better than the tests, there was no
00:47:26
need to arrange an execution, he was
00:47:30
cordoned off in the forest, unlike the Germans, here
00:47:34
I am at some loss, that is, I would
00:47:36
excuse the
00:47:38
cannibalistic revelations, so to speak, but you need to shoot people
00:47:43
in some closed room and
00:47:46
after that they somewhere to load, take away and
00:47:48
sugar is not a war, a
00:47:50
river, but thoughts and hopes, we are talking about
00:47:52
mass executions, I did not participate in mass
00:47:54
executions, I assumed something,
00:47:57
because the people whom they will bring are
00:48:00
like everyone else in handcuffs, I repeat, I did not
00:48:03
say that these were officers these are military
00:48:06
people, as soon as they see that they are now
00:48:09
going to be killed, I assure you,
00:48:12
no bayonets will help,
00:48:13
nothing will help, they will rush into
00:48:15
the loose I sighed, but I will die
00:48:18
with my teeth in your throat, or God
00:48:21
willing, I will run away, well, how is it the same with
00:48:24
us, I don’t know somewhere to get acquainted with the
00:48:30
technology of mass executions like the
00:48:32
gods of pauses look type the word
00:48:34
partridges it’s here again the land of mario
00:48:37
faces carried out an investigation
00:48:38
grew a bunch of witnesses that is the technology
00:48:41
they dug up
00:48:42
from us brought 8 you are alive you got
00:48:45
absolutely wrong in the wrong places and not
00:48:48
so you are clearly not in a dacha area
00:48:50
among other Katyn-like provocations
00:48:53
there were even worse things, for example in the
00:48:57
central cities, in my opinion it
00:49:01
was in Vinnytsia, the security officers had no need,
00:49:06
all this is a manufacturer not far from the city
00:49:08
and in a cordoned off guard together they were not
00:49:11
afraid of the partisans who is it the Germans were afraid
00:49:17
what was happening according to the law, let's start from here
00:49:19
the key and what is there, who brother should where the
00:49:23
Germans everything is happening and how
00:49:26
the neutrino does not sink, it’s easy to see what you are
00:49:28
saying, not all Germans
00:49:30
were exempted from criminal prosecution on
00:49:33
Soviet territory, we will end the law in
00:49:38
order to shoot partisans, why is there a
00:49:40
law for in order for x thousand which
00:49:42
legal to away order to him the law and and
00:49:45
together 3 in the German law we people
00:49:48
were not length. legal
00:49:52
education no income speak I see
00:49:55
let's continue to sell show up I'm
00:50:04
sorry they beat me again I think I
00:50:06
remember 4 mass graves near the Poles
00:50:10
on Lake Copper still somewhere there for some reason they
00:50:13
were all in the occupied
00:50:15
territory no copper because something like that
00:50:18
semi the poor Germans were 1 day, but
00:50:20
no one there proved that we were Poles
00:50:22
because there was a hospital nearby
00:50:24
10 based on the rabbi there were a lot of people, too, everything is fine, we don’t
00:50:27
distract anyone whose so and so, this is
00:50:31
the plot that
00:50:35
the security officers and near their own rest home
00:50:37
next to the pioneer camp in the dacha area are
00:50:40
not it’s clear how and don’t understand in an unknown
00:50:43
way and they shot 10,000
00:50:46
flights so no one noticed it, there
00:50:48
were rollerblades and there they still depended,
00:50:51
you know, for example, take executions
00:50:53
in the city, knees until the thirty-seventh year
00:50:56
they shoot in the film and in the cemetery
00:50:58
Vaseline and horses because there was no car
00:51:00
then appeared one car pom 1
00:51:04
paddy wagon at Viska, we blame them, they were taken to Tver,
00:51:08
that is, if they are to be shot, they must
00:51:11
first be brought to the NKVD on something,
00:51:14
so many cars were not there, we had cars to
00:51:16
mobilize, each one has a pig driver, not a
00:51:19
security officer, each car has an owner,
00:51:23
some kind of chairman the collective farm, that
00:51:28
is, rumors will spread, let's not have a
00:51:31
secret operation, gathering about ourselves throughout the
00:51:34
entire region, there was no ringing in this essence, the
00:51:39
Katyn forest was really cordoned off,
00:51:41
cordoned off in the summer of forty-one,
00:51:42
when the Germans came,
00:51:45
what what actually happened from what from
00:51:48
all this we get and All
00:51:51
we get is the following:
00:51:54
indeed,
00:51:56
on the territory of the Smolensk region, withdrawal
00:51:59
3 was a camp for prisoners of war who were
00:52:03
engaged in repairing roads all over they were
00:52:05
kept there, this is another conversation;
00:52:14
then in the beginning of
00:52:15
June-July they were there and
00:52:18
for example one of the bosses and the tree
00:52:21
just went himself, he was arrested for the cars of
00:52:22
the cars, he wasn’t allowed to go back, he
00:52:24
couldn’t go back, they missed them, but the
00:52:26
testimony of witnesses that
00:52:28
somehow somehow found the situation was
00:52:30
the following 100 wagons for evacuation were not
00:52:32
given
00:52:33
then to the Poles they were offered to be supervised
00:52:35
on foot but you said we won’t
00:52:39
not go and on foot
00:52:41
we are not like that after which the guards will lead
00:52:45
twirled twirled spat and left and the
00:52:47
nerves are like a Nikita Sergeevich
00:52:49
Mikhalkov film unscrew the machine guns
00:52:51
shoot everyone do not leave to the enemy
00:52:55
security guards in the end spat and left
00:52:57
apparently or maybe didn’t leave the Germans
00:52:59
Germans Strokova summer residents did not stand on ceremony
00:53:02
as Jews communists and security officers lunged with
00:53:04
a machine gun right away
00:53:06
but in one of the states it flashed that the
00:53:09
guards still left the security
00:53:11
village, which of the prisoners was mostly
00:53:12
Jewish who already understood that they did
00:53:14
n’t have to expect anything good, they were
00:53:15
left, the Germans were left,
00:53:20
respectively, the camps were completely covered with maples, and
00:53:23
what happened next, when I read the
00:53:27
archival documents, I wasn’t interested in
00:53:28
one question, the countryside, the trees,
00:53:30
there’s a lot of evidence, and for some reason the testimony of the audience in only
00:53:33
one village, the rest choked
00:53:36
began to dig digging you became one
00:53:38
wonderful thing that there, nearby
00:53:39
somewhere a few kilometers away in
00:53:41
August-September 1941, such a
00:53:45
wonderful risk headquarters of the army group
00:53:46
center was built, the object is a secret, it’s simply
00:53:55
the headquarters of the army group center at our level,
00:53:58
it’s like the headquarters of
00:53:59
not even the front direction very large
00:54:03
object object secret how you set up
00:54:05
secret objects everyone knows they didn’t take
00:54:08
prisoners with the help of captivity they did it all then the
00:54:11
work team liquidated it and then
00:54:14
they either had Russian prisoners with whom they
00:54:16
would sabotage it is
00:54:18
not known yet in either the Poles
00:54:20
felled these Germans they were much more loyal to
00:54:23
were generally even better disposed than
00:54:26
to the Russians, but the Germans also took the
00:54:28
working teams of the payu hall in their hall
00:54:31
and stood in the usual order in September
00:54:33
after, as the group headquarters was ready,
00:54:37
they quietly shot the
00:54:40
unnecessary ones, then perhaps more particularly
00:54:43
strongly who were not could work, and
00:54:46
everything is clear, everything is logical, logical, because
00:54:52
the Germans did this all the time, I
00:54:55
repeat, I would still suggest that
00:54:57
if we approach the issue seriously,
00:55:01
it is necessary to inform everyone to count
00:55:05
how many of them there were, to see what clothes
00:55:08
they were wearing, khaki, boots, what
00:55:11
papers were accepted there - here it is now
00:55:13
impossible for the 450 thousand killed you mentioned
00:55:17
or how much you said in
00:55:18
Smolensk
00:55:20
433000 lubrication of scalable Austin as
00:55:23
it is now and us as it is now accepted
00:55:25
half a million of our long-stuffed people are here to
00:55:29
mess with you, you have already killed them, this is of
00:55:32
no interest to anyone in general I
00:55:35
guess that’s why it didn’t do anything,
00:55:37
by the way, the Germans themselves pierced with for
00:55:39
example they pierced dry stupidly in the
00:55:42
descriptions in the descriptions of the graves it was always
00:55:46
said that the prisoners had shoulder straps on the
00:55:49
mountains, you know what to do with the
00:55:50
kite, they glittered and
00:55:51
all that stuff, but the trick is that here
00:55:56
the Germans were just let down by the Geneva
00:56:00
Convention, according to the Geneva Convention,
00:56:02
prisoners of war had the right to wear insignia,
00:56:05
but ours didn’t sign the Geneva Convention,
00:56:08
but there were small,
00:56:10
small agreements, not large ones, like ours, for
00:56:14
example, believed that an officer
00:56:16
should not have such
00:56:19
moments as orderlies, but ours
00:56:22
did theirs position in accordance with the
00:56:25
position of prisoners of war, Soviet captivity
00:56:27
by lines or the right to wear insignia,
00:56:29
where did Vitoldovna come from after the fry, exactly the
00:56:34
meaning after the start of the war, example, a new
00:56:37
decree of prisoners of war, according to
00:56:39
which they had the right to wear
00:56:41
insignia for the Poles and we check with
00:56:43
revenge,
00:56:44
I hope that they will also sleep and
00:56:46
fight in general formation with us and after
00:56:50
that, together it was reported from the Polish
00:56:52
camps that the Poles began to take out
00:56:54
cockades and sew them on the throat, if
00:56:58
you know, place it on them for sure after the start of
00:57:00
the war they were killed, it was again the same
00:57:03
thing with the cartridges, so you see
00:57:08
here a set of evidence it shows
00:57:11
that I don’t know, of course I didn’t judge the operative,
00:57:16
I was impressed by the ratio
00:57:18
to prove that our efforts were German, to put it mildly,
00:57:21
it looks somehow strange to
00:57:24
be on the side of the Germans, like it’s nothing at all
00:57:27
about what this guy dug up, what he
00:57:31
saw there from what kind of pistols they shot, how
00:57:34
they buried them and others, to put it
00:57:35
mildly, it’s strange, well, in my opinion, the
00:57:39
fact that this is voiced by Dr.
00:57:42
Goebbels, she’s already set the task, here it is,
00:57:46
on the one hand, of course, the task
00:57:49
has been set, on the other hand, he’s a professor
00:57:51
with a name and doesn’t care about this doctor
00:57:53
Goebbels, Goebbels, he has a task
00:57:56
reputation, so he cunned so
00:57:58
as not to tarnish his own reputation, it’s
00:58:00
like we’re doing a task in general, but he
00:58:03
tried to confuse everyone, but accept it for
00:58:05
reading, it’s clear I’ll pretend where he’s being cunning, it
00:58:09
became like that, and then, with a high-speed departure from the
00:58:12
scene of the crime,
00:58:14
no one cared about the little things anymore. I wrote it like that,
00:58:16
that is, if these slices,
00:58:19
these companies, the doctor, lost their sleighs for him
00:58:21
to the traffic, the
00:58:22
company, the doctor, once they are
00:58:24
mostly designed for the
00:58:26
media, and not ours, but the Western ones,
00:58:28
they are the people and they process it, but the
00:58:32
independent people don’t think anything, the people
00:58:34
think only what they don’t I like this
00:58:36
journalists we are in deep violet in
00:58:38
fact to shot such a story became
00:58:42
such a story pooped how can you not
00:58:45
spin it a journalist
00:58:46
works for someone serving your
00:58:49
interests in this case interest
00:58:51
works for Dr. Goebbels and is
00:58:53
served in three marks and work for
00:58:57
circulations I thought under capitalism they are but the
00:59:00
owner of the work time some
00:59:04
confused day carefully look at
00:59:07
the look and it will be ok we will now agree
00:59:09
to the fact that no ideology in the
00:59:10
United States pops from a daisy I
00:59:13
will collect any ideal horror does not work
00:59:15
no ideology part does not work on the
00:59:17
terrace and you know there some
00:59:20
communist gas such a mood at the
00:59:22
end of the time didn’t make this joker
00:59:25
will do great yellow works a
00:59:28
lot there no and the yellow ones all
00:59:30
adhere to a certain political
00:59:32
line how does it happen with such
00:59:34
free journalists as the United
00:59:37
States Litar people to which they are good
00:59:39
too egalitarian society Americans
00:59:41
yes Americans when they described it,
00:59:43
recording themselves, you think hurray, it’s all
00:59:46
said, we could scientists have one hit
00:59:52
anyway, so the coffins came off
00:59:56
part 1 grave diggers from Dr.
00:59:59
Goebbels
01:00:00
syndrome of the 8th and here is a cancan on the bones,
01:00:08
why do we need to take it from our
01:00:13
state authorities to take it and admit
01:00:15
that it is we did why did you do a lot, but
01:00:18
how much has been established about this, I don’t know
01:00:20
Dimentiy, how much we are talking about this, I think we
01:00:24
just talked about next Wednesday, we
01:00:27
can talk while the war is male, the
01:00:30
so-called Soviet-Polish war,
01:00:31
which should have been immediately talked
01:00:35
about the provocation, where are these Poles in general?
01:00:37
will be taken up in such an industrial
01:00:39
ring, this one is very interesting,
01:00:41
let’s start talking about the
01:00:43
provocation, where it came from and
01:00:46
its background so that somehow I
01:00:48
wasn’t, but you weren’t actually there
01:00:50
much back in forty-one, for example,
01:00:55
the Germans wrote from afar a book for
01:00:58
Dr. Goebbels, letters from a German
01:01:00
soldier from anywhere
01:01:01
that talks about the terrible atrocities
01:01:03
of the Bolsheviks in a Lvov prison with
01:01:05
pregnant women hanging by their feet,
01:01:07
more the family impressed hundreds of children there
01:01:10
from 2 to 17 years old who were nailed
01:01:12
to the fence, so shot, expected it
01:01:15
talks about the security officers, but there’s
01:01:18
nothing to do it was like running through the streets
01:01:19
catching children nailed to a
01:01:21
fence somewhere in the dark they were kept well and in
01:01:26
general there were several such provocations
01:01:28
for example it was similar absolutely
01:01:31
similar to the provocation in the city of Vinnitsa
01:01:33
there also in some orchard on the
01:01:35
outskirts of the city uncovering mass
01:01:38
graves too they said that these were evil
01:01:41
Bolsheviks, the devil is in their minds, since they were no longer Polish
01:01:43
officers about local residents,
01:01:45
absolutely one to one there was
01:01:47
a provocation, but it had no mediation
01:01:51
because it was not picked up by someone,
01:01:53
but who is interested in the borders that
01:01:55
someone there killed some Russians at night
01:01:57
search officers are right, the most
01:02:00
remarkable provocation was in Odessa
01:02:01
because there they noted the modest
01:02:03
disrespect of the Romanians and the destruction of our
01:02:06
citizens was no worse than the Germans and when
01:02:09
the Germans began to tear apart
01:02:12
the grave filled with their efforts, they rumata fussed
01:02:15
too,
01:02:16
they also dug up some graves, but the fact is
01:02:20
that they didn’t quite understand how all
01:02:23
this was happening, first of all, they did
01:02:25
n’t bring their own forensic experts, but
01:02:27
took local Odessa people from Odessa,
01:02:30
naturally 3 guys, what are you talking about, you
01:02:32
yourself killed him, he will become an export, he’s
01:02:35
not afraid of anyone, he starts the ministry, then he
01:02:38
just means in the archives there they corrected
01:02:40
the lines in in conclusion, I showed this, I did
01:02:44
n’t write this, he came to the boss, you
01:02:46
copied it in conclusion, then the
01:02:51
terrible details began there, we
01:02:53
really surprised the world, for example, they
01:02:55
said that they found some kind of iron
01:02:57
beam and the internal skull, so they
01:03:00
decided that these iron cans were put
01:03:02
on the head of the
01:03:04
condemned person through these cans in they
01:03:06
were shot because they were afraid to look at the
01:03:08
faces of their victims, then in general, since
01:03:14
the burial took place in a place that
01:03:17
has the expressive name of a large
01:03:18
landfill, there were not only pots and holes they
01:03:20
had already found there, there were a lot of things of
01:03:22
the level, once again they showed their
01:03:26
high talents, but of course nothing came of it
01:03:29
either without hearing more than that, and
01:03:31
only one Katyn provocation had a continuation,
01:03:33
since there was
01:03:35
someone abroad to pick up, there was the so
01:03:38
-called Polish government in
01:03:41
exile, which was sitting in London,
01:03:43
but behind all this were our friends the
01:03:45
Americans,
01:03:48
what is the background of this
01:03:50
wonderful case, where did the
01:03:52
Polish prisoners come from?
01:03:55
Before, of course, you can start with the
01:03:59
old dispute between the Slavs, 100
01:04:02
Poles, they are destroyed, wonderful nations, they are
01:04:05
all afraid of all the neighbors
01:04:07
they have, therefore, in the 18th century, the Russian
01:04:11
Austrians and the Germans are tired of no good, I will
01:04:13
divide them no matter what, but I was divided by the alarm bell,
01:04:16
then united, but easier did not
01:04:18
become anyone until in the eighteenth
01:04:20
year it appeared again after
01:04:23
after the end of the First World War, the
01:04:27
Austrian Empire collapsed and
01:04:28
as far as the haft of the Aryan Empire
01:04:29
appeared, everyone began to shoot and
01:04:32
pour began with the fact that they went to war
01:04:35
against Soviet Russia,
01:04:36
more precisely against Soviet Ukraine, Soviet
01:04:38
Belarus, they would have decided that these
01:04:40
the territory should belong to him bosch is
01:04:42
great it seems Lithuanian yes but let
01:04:45
us restore it naturally
01:04:50
no one liked it in the twentieth year
01:04:52
they were driven out of there by the Soviet-Polish
01:04:56
war which thanks to
01:04:58
Tukhachevsky they say ours were successful in fact they didn’t
01:05:01
completely lose, well they lost therefore a
01:05:03
healthy piece of Ukraine and Belarus
01:05:05
which even the British from low nets to
01:05:08
this state benefited from it, and
01:05:10
at the same time there were still
01:05:11
quite a lot of ours captured,
01:05:15
whom they successfully starved to death, and who were
01:05:17
successfully starved to death,
01:05:19
and 70 years ago no one knows
01:05:22
how much was actually in one of the
01:05:25
documents of that in our time, the figure was
01:05:27
200,000 taken prisoner, that is, maybe
01:05:29
130,000 were killed not in the 70th, absolutely
01:05:34
terrible conditions and understand, in general,
01:05:37
nothing was done to
01:05:39
make them somehow better, then I
01:05:41
’ll tell you that she how we behaved with
01:05:44
the prisoners
01:05:46
then later it was the year thirty-nine,
01:05:49
then there was the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, as
01:05:51
a result of which I wonder if the
01:05:54
territory was divided into spheres of influence in an
01:05:56
increasingly beautiful sphere of influence if Western
01:05:59
Ukraine, Western Belarus or the Germans
01:06:02
entered the Germans entered Poland, Hitler
01:06:06
really wanted the Soviet Union to also
01:06:08
take part in it, ours were more cunning,
01:06:11
so our troops crossed the borders
01:06:13
when the Polish government
01:06:14
crossed or in the opposite direction, rice
01:06:18
government using our benefit,
01:06:19
this would be all countries for more years, we take
01:06:22
people close to us under protection and
01:06:30
thus a number of Polish military personnel fell into our hands,
01:06:35
whose general status is in general, a
01:06:38
group of lines, speaking not a concept,
01:06:40
because who is not such, strictly speaking, not not a
01:06:43
prisoner of war, strictly speaking, they were rather
01:06:47
interned according to a
01:06:50
non-aggression treaty with the Germans, ours entered
01:06:55
Poland on the territory that was then
01:06:58
crushed there for Poland and ideally
01:07:01
the Soviet-Polish war was not it was that at
01:07:02
first they arrested everyone who
01:07:10
came across it, then we’ll see that there are a lot of them,
01:07:12
how mysteriously so many were not necessary, the
01:07:15
first thing they did was they started immediately
01:07:18
releasing those who come from our
01:07:20
territories, right there where are you from from
01:07:24
Brest go home
01:07:25
something like this to do it, these 130,000
01:07:29
brought to our territory, steel
01:07:31
to be placed in camps, of course, it immediately
01:07:33
became clear that there are a lot of them, there are
01:07:35
absolutely wonderful documents
01:07:37
inspecting the camps and they talk about yes, of
01:07:41
course it’s a disgrace, they burn
01:07:46
hot for several days, people haven’t eaten
01:07:49
both of them, there are not enough barracks, not all winter
01:07:53
barracks, and from
01:07:54
me I understand I and they had all the
01:07:56
earthly barracks, and a certain number
01:07:58
were in the summer ones, so when those who were in the
01:08:00
summer ones asked to spend the night with those who were
01:08:03
warm, they were not allowed
01:08:04
not to flood mutual aid, but
01:08:09
still there was too much fighting and therefore ours were
01:08:11
practically they immediately released everyone who demolished
01:08:13
the territories except those who expressed
01:08:15
completely anti-Soviet views,
01:08:18
those who were from the German territories,
01:08:20
ordinary people, you immediately gave the Germans
01:08:22
practically this is done literally in
01:08:24
one month, those professionals, those who are
01:08:28
more qualified, that is, not
01:08:30
peasants and working miners, they were immediately
01:08:32
sent to enterprises of our
01:08:35
industry, which was suffocating from a
01:08:37
lack of personnel,
01:08:38
and this is how he writes that forcing them to
01:08:41
work 16-18 hours for anyone and
01:08:43
nothing like that, we had in
01:08:45
the decree of prisoners of war to extend to them the
01:08:47
same conditions as to
01:08:49
our workers, that is, an 8-hour working
01:08:51
day and
01:08:52
and actually the salary that is ours
01:08:54
minus them you read for the maintenance
01:08:57
you could still earn extra money and considering that
01:09:02
the residents of the city were simply eager to work in the same mines of Donbass, left to the unemployed, it
01:09:05
was not very bad those who worked in
01:09:08
factories and mines were freed from the nose soybeans
01:09:10
for what they immediately sign an employment
01:09:12
contract with this enterprise where
01:09:14
they work, based on the situation of the
01:09:15
wage war, and in the end, by the
01:09:18
new year, there were practically only officers left.
01:09:31
some kind of strange
01:09:34
operation for which there are no
01:09:35
documents,
01:09:37
all that is known is that these people
01:09:39
won and their status was changed, you see,
01:09:44
look, we would have to
01:09:46
do the same thing with the officers as soldiers from those who were from
01:09:50
German territories to return to the Germans, those
01:09:52
who were from our territories to keep for themselves, but
01:09:56
what’s the point? - the
01:09:57
trick is that
01:09:59
the Poles were very friendly to the
01:10:02
Germans, moreover, until the
01:10:03
year thirty-nine, but until the 30th and early
01:10:07
39th, at least there was talk that
01:10:10
Poland and Germany would jointly
01:10:12
attack the Soviet Union,
01:10:13
only the stunning idiocy of the Polish
01:10:16
government will not allow this plan
01:10:19
it will happen, but this is clearly visible from others, no less a bastard,
01:10:23
as a very clue:
01:10:25
Soviet tanks entered Prague in 1968, can
01:10:27
you imagine what a
01:10:29
tragedy it was, the whole country stood shoulder to shoulder
01:10:33
against this Soviet
01:10:36
aggression, clothes, I wonder how you were there in
01:10:39
1939 against the Nazis
01:10:41
stood there shoulder to shoulder was it
01:10:43
all normal and dudeva and we are brothers
01:10:47
living next to each other, all three of us
01:10:48
and then a third of the military equipment for the Reich was
01:10:51
released in the check it was the owls the people's roller
01:10:55
was no longer there if quickly there was a
01:10:57
complete collapse of control some seconds
01:10:59
where the thief of Warsaw resisted right up to the
01:11:01
end of September, she resisted and what to
01:11:04
do with this order, you don’t understand,
01:11:06
it’s clear that Stalin did not want to give them to
01:11:08
Hitler
01:11:09
because for two reasons, firstly,
01:11:11
given the mood of the order, to track down Elsa
01:11:13
wants to create a Polish Ermakova to ours,
01:11:16
they will go with pleasure, I will go,
01:11:19
secondly, after the beginning of the war, if we
01:11:21
want to create a Polish army, then they
01:11:24
will go in the wrong direction, right where the ice these
01:11:26
people had to be saved somehow
01:11:28
and then, as far as I understand
01:11:31
the situation, they simply changed their status. We
01:11:34
had a special meeting with the NKVD, which
01:11:36
had the right to administratively
01:11:38
sentence them to exile. well, somewhere
01:11:41
literally up to 8 years,
01:11:43
and you somehow divided the prisoners into very strange things,
01:11:46
as far as I understand, they
01:11:48
changed the status of most of them to family, but
01:11:53
although in general it’s understandable if you’re a family member,
01:11:54
your family is in Poland, but if your family is a
01:11:56
hostage, it would be make it rain and
01:11:58
the Germans will say, and apparently he just
01:12:01
changed his status, we will transfer him from
01:12:03
prisoners of war to the category of
01:12:05
ordinary prisoners, and in this
01:12:09
form they were sent to the construction site of the national
01:12:11
economy in anticipation of a big war with
01:12:13
Germany and they didn’t have to wait long for a year,
01:12:16
well, here with any in the scenarios,
01:12:20
again, it is not clear why kill them, but if
01:12:23
they were suitable for work before the war and
01:12:25
how long to work, if during the
01:12:27
war they were purely personnel
01:12:30
that we can use at the front,
01:12:32
why kill you, they killed us, and
01:12:34
then it was not the Germans who quite successfully did not
01:12:37
kill and Polish prisoners of war and ours,
01:12:39
he has a different approach, why did Hitler 3
01:12:42
blunder this operation because
01:12:44
as soon as they took Poland,
01:12:46
Operation Tannenberg did not begin to destroy the
01:12:49
Polish elite of the Polish intelligentsia, and
01:12:53
since these officers were not returned to him,
01:12:55
Hitler must have thought that ours
01:12:57
were doing exactly the same thing in relation to the
01:12:59
old enemy, it’s enough not to dissuade the
01:13:01
groove and they hid them, they hid them not very
01:13:05
successfully, they hid them near Smolensk, but they were unlucky,
01:13:09
so I say again, there is
01:13:11
no proof of this, but this is at least my
01:13:13
version of why they disappeared from the
01:13:16
lists of prisoners of war, although the rest are those
01:13:21
who act on the
01:13:23
status of prisoners of war, although they were less so,
01:13:26
they were in this form until the age of 41,
01:13:29
let’s use such subtle terminology then,
01:13:32
that is, they didn’t bother, everyone was preparing
01:13:35
for war, a wide variety of activities were carried out,
01:13:37
so I understood, I understand
01:13:40
why they didn’t want to give them hectares,
01:13:42
which goes without saying, why give them away him from the
01:13:46
specially trained officers,
01:13:48
let's hand over this guy like that
01:13:50
and he'll be useful himself, so exactly why
01:13:53
kill, I'm logically just nothing more than
01:13:57
when we really tried
01:13:58
to create a Polish one, it did
01:14:00
n't work out that it wasn't very correct
01:14:03
because after the start of the war they really
01:14:05
declared an amnesty for the Poles who
01:14:06
were in in the camps, those who remained
01:14:08
began to release them, they were allowed to live on
01:14:11
Soviet territory if they were not in the army,
01:14:13
those who could fight were sent to the army,
01:14:16
this is the so-called Anders army, our
01:14:19
army was very interesting, Anderson
01:14:22
immediately agreed with Stalin that we
01:14:24
want to be the first to enter Poland, but in the
01:14:27
army The
01:14:29
security officers worked as informers for us as always
01:14:30
and I listen for a point for the conspiracy, yes, we will concede in
01:14:32
Poland the same thing that they will do against the
01:14:34
Bolsheviks,
01:14:35
yes we will enter Poland, we will defend
01:14:37
independence from the Soviets, that is,
01:14:40
naturally for us in the ranks we had such an army,
01:14:44
why the hell did
01:14:45
Stalin try them push them to the front under
01:14:48
the conversation that the Czech Republic means that the Czechs who
01:14:51
created the battalion KYA will
01:14:52
send them to fight, it
01:14:54
was implied that we don’t want to send them to
01:14:57
fight as a battalion, it was meant avast
01:15:00
not a battalion, you have 40 thousand people there,
01:15:03
go to the front ears in the end
01:15:08
Anders expressed her wishes to serve in
01:15:12
the English the army after which they were joyfully
01:15:15
pushed out by the crows where they were already
01:15:18
beating in English you used to live there for more than a year with a lot of
01:15:21
fun, really fun
01:15:24
because, again,
01:15:25
reports from the NKVD were preserved and it was said that they
01:15:28
inflated prices in the markets and in restaurants
01:15:30
there military ponies engage in prostitution
01:15:33
in everything this is a symbol there, they ended up with a
01:15:36
prostitute for the same thing, and finally
01:15:40
they were transported to Italy where they
01:15:46
checked in somewhere near my Monte Cassino monastery and even says
01:15:49
that they say that they took him, although in
01:15:51
fact it’s not so German there was an agreement for
01:15:52
military reasons, the feat without getting
01:15:55
paid didn’t work out, but it’s clear that
01:15:57
it was right that they didn’t give up this German about
01:15:59
for you got into the Polish army,
01:16:05
but when
01:16:07
Poland searches for such ginnel and the fact is
01:16:11
that the Polish government
01:16:13
moved to London from a format
01:16:15
called the Polish government in
01:16:16
exile, who was very
01:16:19
sharply opposed to big risks, to the point that the
01:16:23
judges, from conversations with the steel, tried to
01:16:25
send in saboteurs who were supposed to
01:16:27
blow up bridges and pubs and do any
01:16:30
mischief, let’s say this is the beauty of the
01:16:34
Soviet search, relationships with you are
01:16:36
charming in themselves,
01:16:39
for example, they were so loved Western
01:16:42
Ukraine and Western Belarus that when
01:16:44
they sent a group they
01:16:45
fired especially at the officers, they demanded
01:16:48
that they be given a convoy, they simply demanded
01:16:50
rowing, I’m not going to go, the local
01:16:52
population will kill us in attacks, they loved us, apparently they
01:16:57
noted well there, oh yes,
01:17:00
they love Poles everywhere, and even in the territory under
01:17:03
whose rule they were very loved so they
01:17:10
actually shot the Poles before
01:17:12
they shot them, but specific people according to
01:17:17
specific sentences
01:17:19
are involved in a specific crime in general,
01:17:21
but here’s an example for you: our tank
01:17:24
units are traveling around Poland on September 39, they fly into
01:17:26
some village, they are in the midst of a
01:17:29
punitive operation, it turns out there it’s
01:17:31
either Belarusian in my village
01:17:34
they opposed it, a
01:17:37
punitive detachment came and
01:17:38
managed to shoot a
01:17:40
dozen and a half of them, including two teenagers,
01:17:42
and then ours arrived, so I think that
01:17:45
if ours didn’t immediately spank such
01:17:48
activity, then these ones probably went
01:17:50
to trial or the commander might even have been
01:17:52
shot. it could well be equal to
01:17:55
the amount,
01:17:56
I saw fragments of the execution lists, not
01:17:59
in their entirety, well, most of the
01:18:01
scribes there, it was such an article
01:18:04
that treason, including crossing
01:18:07
abroad illegally, it changed the homeland of
01:18:09
the demon, a person such and such a product, lunch Ivanov, until the
01:18:12
year thirty-eight, defected to the
01:18:14
Poles the future a military man and now
01:18:17
he was captured, well, accordingly, he is
01:18:19
58, one of the highest measures of
01:18:22
such people were shot at the table, he wanted him to be
01:18:24
involved in punitive operations, shoots
01:18:30
those who were involved grew up in
01:18:31
crimes, they shot criminals so that
01:18:33
you think in their games there were no hungry people
01:18:37
like there were prisoner of war camps, there were
01:18:39
murders and many other delights, but here’s the little
01:18:44
book,
01:18:45
Yuri, drive another Mukhina, you’ve read on this
01:18:48
topic, you’ll say, well, it’s a good book, but this is
01:18:53
just a discussion on the topic of discussing
01:18:56
Soviet evidence, yes, we have a photo
01:18:58
trap in the manner and for some reason they lured us in a
01:19:02
very cunning way, they see that this is what we are
01:19:06
discussing exclusively worked
01:19:08
Soviet construction group, let's
01:19:10
talk about the work of the Germans, and this is what was
01:19:13
done, in general, first of all,
01:19:17
because it was still necessary to
01:19:19
read these documents, it is very useful,
01:19:25
for example, about the army group center, she
01:19:28
spoke so much in one of the documents,
01:19:30
namely
01:19:31
the transcript of the Birsk trial, these are
01:19:35
known that Nuremberg Katyn
01:19:38
crime it was not included in Berg's sentence
01:19:41
why ours is said as
01:19:45
because it was not considered a crime day of
01:19:47
something like that small it's time for
01:19:48
the transcript in the most beautiful way they
01:19:51
found everything only it was needed there everything according to the law
01:19:54
yes according to the law of crimes are united you are talking
01:19:57
about the motto for a specific person not it could
01:19:59
have become that such and such some kind of
01:20:02
structure and who was the specific person of these three
01:20:05
girls who worked began
01:20:07
to ask what kind of units they were or
01:20:09
some kind of construction
01:20:11
battalion the boss was Arnis they all
01:20:14
spoke German the girls communicated and
01:20:16
so and the translator, it is unknown how
01:20:19
they remembered that the commander for
01:20:20
we are not working in the wrong place September to
01:20:22
December, but they found this Larisa, who
01:20:25
turned out to be Oriens,
01:20:26
we were only on the construction battalion of the
01:20:28
communications regiment, which served the
01:20:30
headquarters of the army group center of this varius,
01:20:33
they determined the accusation for which they told me
01:20:35
what I came there in the first place in November I
01:20:38
can prove this to his third
01:20:40
commander cotton wool spider the first two died
01:20:43
please present the colonel
01:20:45
dined in the king whose grave was
01:20:51
precisely for this reason the accusations
01:20:52
fell apart but it was a very interesting
01:20:56
moment when at the entrance
01:20:57
I think really he left the move didn’t get it
01:21:01
just fell apart there the man fought back If
01:21:05
he hadn’t been there, he wouldn’t have been there at that time, and
01:21:06
all of them were Lebanon’s mouth, that’s who
01:21:09
they were presenting there, the farce didn’t turn out to be the
01:21:12
face of which he was presenting at at a very
01:21:13
interesting moment when one of the
01:21:16
witnesses and but asked the question, have
01:21:18
you seen such and such telegrams and did you know
01:21:20
about the Poles
01:21:21
this ru asked a question about the actions of the Ayzat
01:21:24
team and as soon as the word VAT was heard the
01:21:28
defense team jumped up like a
01:21:32
cold dad and screamed with a bayonet, don’t confuse
01:21:36
my clients’ cases with the bottom, but that’s where this
01:21:40
topic ended, from here you can see what
01:21:44
was there in fact, the fact is that
01:21:46
signalmen were often involved in mass executions,
01:21:48
even if you imagine a
01:21:50
signalman who went to Lada to
01:21:51
shoot, it’s not clear why and they were
01:21:53
specialists, but he immediately, yes of course there
01:21:56
were special specialists, these
01:21:57
were called at the front of the Sonderkommando
01:22:01
three of them for teams, these specialists are the
01:22:04
future operational unit about she
01:22:08
had no opinions about her own supply, they usually settled on the
01:22:12
basis of existing military units,
01:22:14
so during the council, as it was, I’m afraid
01:22:18
the signalmen did it before they received the
01:22:20
NKVD rest house, then in fact they
01:22:23
called it the Dnieper Palace, they settled for this more
01:22:25
in words, and on the day of the action,
01:22:27
how the girls remembered they had to come about
01:22:29
their trucks, washed in the bathhouse,
01:22:31
I fell behind, slept off and
01:22:34
ran for a new portion, well, of course,
01:22:38
how to find the leaders of the dance team,
01:22:41
no way, that’s why it was all
01:22:46
carried out solely for this
01:22:48
reason, I would recommend the book to anyone, I
01:22:53
advise you to read it, because the book
01:22:56
is quite heavy for a very long time
01:22:59
they kicked me that I don’t go to the archives and I
01:23:02
got angry
01:23:03
and it affected that Prudnikova’s archives don’t
01:23:05
go about the days the apartment is published, so there are
01:23:08
a lot of archival documents here,
01:23:10
a lot of comments,
01:23:12
so I advise reading to those who like
01:23:15
this kind of reading analysis of sevan
01:23:18
documents to order with you with
01:23:19
comments to the conclusion at the end it is unambiguous
01:23:24
or the reader is invited to think
01:23:26
for himself the
01:23:27
conclusions regarding the crime itself are
01:23:30
naturally assigned because what
01:23:33
we talked about here for an hour and a half, the German
01:23:35
accusation simply does not stand up to
01:23:38
criticism, not even a touch with one
01:23:40
finger, but read the conclusion and
01:23:43
provocations of the
01:23:44
Katyn anime ambiguous Katyn
01:23:47
provocations grid to give next time
01:23:48
we'll talk about this is a separate and very
01:23:50
interesting topic but completely separate
01:23:53
and the Katyn crime of having a bag is
01:23:56
quite mediocre in relation to one more
01:23:58
time the book is called Katyn lies
01:24:02
tired stories
01:24:04
can be purchased using the link under the video
01:24:07
thank you 90
01:24:09
about here today all until we meet again
01:24:14
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