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hello everyone welcome to our zoom
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today in the company of Dana novicova
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hello madam
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your name indicates it comes from
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western Siberia and you come here
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as president of the SOS
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dombasque association which can be found on the
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SOS
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dombas website .org then you
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recently distinguished yourself Anna novicova since
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you transported a humani
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humanitarian convoy from Pau to Dombas
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it was last April during a
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month-long truck trip with donations
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collected in 5 countries so is -
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can you first
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introduce us to your association created in
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the fall of 2022 I believe then
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the SOS association d'en bas was
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created in September 2022 and it is quite
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recent compared to other
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associations who were already standing from
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below this is the situation
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which began in 2014
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so I created this association following
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my return from the gambas where I went
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for the first time in August 2022
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as a prorus activist
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who felt attacked here is in France
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is in Russian so
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we created with other comrades this
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association to already support the people
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of the gambas who were completely forgotten
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by Europe and not only
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forgotten but also bombarded by
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European weapons by the through
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the Ukrainian army and above all giving
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another version of the situation in
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Dombasque which is not at all the same
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given here in the French media so
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we started by organizing
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demonstrations against the arming of
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Ukraine because this is exactly what
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is prolonging the war and
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which is therefore not at all the solution to the
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conflict so we organized several
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demonstrations in several
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European countries in France Spain
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Germany Italy too and we
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took this action against the arming of
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the Ukraine and we ended up in front of the headquarters
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of the time in Brussels where we brought
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together all the militant comrades who
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supported us in Europe and
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it was on April 4 to wish NATO a happy
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birthday. day of
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the creation of NATO why you
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say you felt attacked
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seeing what is happening today in
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the bomb
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because after February 24, 2022 there
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is a strong very strong propaganda a
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virus which started in the media and
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I felt attacked because that was
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manipulating the public eye and when I
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went to the public or
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my children's school or anywhere I felt
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this reaction when I said that I
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am Russian for a quick second silence ah
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c it's great you're sad but there are
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things like that and
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we feel we are grouped with
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other Russians who were in the same
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situation as me to jump hold
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mentally already and then we started
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to act we created organized first
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demonstration against the
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discrimination of the Russians and then it
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went like that and so the second goal of
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our association is also
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humanitarian aid to the people of our bases who
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are once again forgotten by Europe,
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it is the Ukrainians who are very on
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the other hand in Dombas there are not only
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Russians but also Ukrainians but
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this part is not helped at all or
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almost not helped by Europe so our
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immune convoy is to
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establish justice for the people of
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Dambase but also to show that
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Europeans are not all against the
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people we call the separatists
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of Dombas but
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to establish peace between these people so
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I said it is worth your humanitarian convoy
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contained donations collected in 5 countries
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what were these countries So it was
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France where the headquarters of
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the association is located, it was Spain, Belgium,
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Germany and Switzerland, were they
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private donors or did you
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have institutions that made
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donations to
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us? we also managed to recruit
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money what mission you
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set yourself when leaving
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by organizing what we are going to
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honestly when we organize the convoy
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we didn't know if we were going to succeed or
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not we really left into
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the unknown
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it was spontaneous and
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all the advisors
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around told us don't do that
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it's stupidity it's too complicated
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it's too expensive it's easier
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to send money
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we stayed
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true to our idea they have we have
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still decided to leave we decided
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to leave through the Baltic countries we
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studied several itineraries and well then
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in the media they say that they are very
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interesting
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we took this risk and we passed the
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Baltic countries without any problem
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even with a big surprise a big
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surprise when we arrived in Estonia
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we passed through the border between
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Estonia and and Russia
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all the world Narva the
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border town with Russia everyone
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speaks Russian and even in the
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coffee restaurants there is the Russian music and the
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menu finally the menu is in Russian so
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it was a very pleasant surprise for
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us and which showed that we are
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once again very manipulated by the media and
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problems all the same
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in the Baltic countries when we spent
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no problem even when we passed
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between Germany and
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the customs officers or between Estonia Latvia
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we had no problem police did
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not stop us it happened like that and
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for the return it was the same we
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encountered problems of course at the
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border
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we were missing some documents so
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we had to find a solution
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quickly so we were stuck for
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two days at the Estonian border and
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a bad surprise for us was
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the Russian borders where we
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stayed for four days
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it was it was not the first
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immune convoy but the first since
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February 24 with we still had a
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large truck of 80 cubic meters so
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it was really bigger than the
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others we see and it was unusual
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and the customs officers they also didn't know
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how to finally manage on the
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papers what we see and we
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as a beginner we didn't know exactly
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how to organize the papers well it
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was blocked for four days
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the essentials that we managed to get out and
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we arrived at the prawns a little 6
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days late but we managed so
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what a welcome the
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inhabitants of this region of Dombas gave you
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so the welcome was really
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warm it is very very touching
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already we were expected by
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associations with which we collaborate odam
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bass and so of course there were
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journalists there were volunteers
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from the associations
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the welcome was very very warm and
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afterward for days when we stayed
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there we were always accompanied by
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volunteers we brought donations
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ourselves and we distributed quite a few to
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associations it is therefore
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still distributed by associations
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and now therefore
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thanks to what we see
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and
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in the media the presentation in the media
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we have seen then now they
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sell eight collection points
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throughout Europe and therefore planning
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our military convoy for the month
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of October which is coming soon did
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you feel on site a form of
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anger or even hatred on the part of the
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inhabitants of the don -low towards the
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Europeans precisely the volunteers from the
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local associations who came they
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were above all curious they were very
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grateful
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and really they came to shake
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hands with the Europeans we were four
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people so I am the only Russian and
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Belgian and in French to thank
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these Europeans and because they saw
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that Europeans are not all
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against
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separatists between European governments and
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populations and even
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among these people who acquired us
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there was a veteran who
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volunteered to defend his region
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from below since 2014 he was 21 years old
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and so today he is 29 years old he
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lost both his arms
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last July finally 2022 ago he said when
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I saw you arriving I saw these
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Europeans arrived with the two
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humanitarian milk, I cried and I no
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longer wanted revenge for having lost
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my arms and finally there are many
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residents of Dombas who still have
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this anger this incomprehension
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why they are bombarded by the
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weapons of Europe and therefore what we see
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humanitarian has clearly shown that the
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Europeans are not all against them and therefore
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it is this volunteer who lost his arms
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she said I no longer want to be
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avenge
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and wage war on Europe and that
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is our success what do
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the inhabitants of Dombas tell you about
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Russian power are they all pro for
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Moscow
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I went to Dombas 4 times the
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first time I I went precisely
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to see are
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the inhabitants of the gambas really
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for Russians as they say in the
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Russian media or are they more afraid
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of the Russians they feel
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invaded as they say here in France
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and in the total atmosphere I have so I was
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able to go to the grocery stores I was
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accommodated in the in the hotels I
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took the taxi I met people
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in the street when I went between the hotel
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and other places
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in conversations in general they
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are grateful that finally Russia
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Avignon in the ear officially there
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are certain inhabitants from below it is
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I spoke with a taxi driver he
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told me he is a little in angry
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because he says why Putin did
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n't intervene before why he
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waited 8 years why we had to
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wait for
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14 million deaths and so there are
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some people who are angry
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of course that's the majority there is a
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lot of course some who are against
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Russia but fortunately I have not
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met them are there
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inhabitants of Dombasle who still have
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respect for the esteem for the power of
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Kiev for president zellenski where
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is it it's over we'll
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never be able to put the pieces back together
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in any case I haven't met a
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person who said something good about the eyes
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of a ski, personally I feel
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sorry for him for me he's a pawn
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who was set up and I'm afraid
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I hope not but I'm afraid he's going to
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end up like
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who died recently on a plane
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connecting
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I see the tragic end for him
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what feedback do you have today today the
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situation is in good shape three months
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after your return to France
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we are still in contact with the
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charitable associations there where we
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exchange because we are preparing the
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next convoy I ask each time
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how the situation is going they say
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that the situation is the same it remains
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stable there are bombings they this
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group of volunteers fortunately they
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are still alive so they continue to
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move in the really
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bombed places they manage to
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pass through places finally there was still
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a void so the situation remains stable
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is it good news and
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the bad news I can't say
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too bad we're not moving forward you
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told me while preparing this broadcast who
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are the Caesar cannons so who are the
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French cannons sent in Ukraine which
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today continues to destroy the
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infrastructure in the right bass
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exactly and also good example
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a family
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a mother with her three children one
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of the children sick with Cancer so he
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made a call for help to treat
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her children's teeth so for almost
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a month she has not been able to go and
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treat her children because there are
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bombings all the time and so things are
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not progressing we have already recruited money
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to help them but the children are
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forever they cannot
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heal themselves are you afraid that this
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conflict when we see Emmanuel Macron
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sending long-range missiles
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to Kiev when we see certain
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European countries sending F16 planes to Kiev
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that this conflict will degenerate in a
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world conflict precisely that's why
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also militates against the arming of
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Ukraine
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arming Ukraine it doesn't solve the
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problem on the contrary it aggravates it and I
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don't understand this policy of
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arming the Ukraine instead
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of sending diplomats since 2014
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when France was guaranteed it
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they have already started to send
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weapons and train the Ukrainian army
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so we see very clearly that since 2014
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it was not their objective to stop
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the conflict but rather aggravate it, do
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your association do you
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intend to take part in the reconstruction
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of Dombas if there is one day an end to
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hostilities
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you know we advance from day to day
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we don't have we don't adapts to the
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situation we don't really have a
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strategy for the moment our objective
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is to help the population who are
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suffering and then when the conflict
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stops we will of course
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discuss with the volunteers how we
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can help you to build the
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bombed territories then you
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denounce you mentioned it earlier
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an anti-rus propaganda of the
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European leaders what are in your eyes the
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most blatant lies of this
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propaganda
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for me everything that says in the
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French media mass media for me all this
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is lies I say this
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openly I am not afraid of the
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consequences because it is
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completely opposite to what
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the people on site tell me and of course it is the
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pose of what was also said in the
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Russian media which is also of course
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its form of propaganda in each country
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we have its propaganda but
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the French mass media
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they only provoke hatred
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against the Russians while in every
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conflict there are always two sides who
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are guilty of course that
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the government of Dombas is the
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separatists that we call them of course
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they made mistakes but they have
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no case they wanted it to get worse to the
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point that there is war who
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is having fun but we know very well that
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April 15, 2014 it was the government of
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Kiffe which announced the military attack
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against the government of Dombasle
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we remember in 2014 it was in revolt
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against the decisions of the power of Kiev
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to prohibit the inhabitants of Dombas from
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speaking in Russian when that was the case
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for this entire population, that's why
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they revolted and moreover
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even the electronic refugees
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now that I meet
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in France speak in the most of them
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speak Russian because Russian was
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very very widespread in all the
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seeds so your association we
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remind you and is only financed by donations do
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you have what
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can you say to note the spectators on
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the subject
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so that you need association
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for the moment it is a small
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association despite the efforts that we
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make
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the work that we do we are a
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small association we exist only
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thanks to the donations of private people and
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at the moment we are looking for doctors who
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could help us to really carry out
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broader activities and more which
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can help much more to the
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populations of the time you how you
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come to the aid of these populations seduces
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material you need what
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food, clothing, medicine,
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I imagine above all what was asked of
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Logan, for example, was things to
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furnish the house because they
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welcomed a lot of
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Ukrainian refugees in Logan while it was under
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security surveillance by the Russian army
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now therefore the gas that it is
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bombarded by the French cannons with
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the English bombs moreover when we
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were there with the convoy the same day
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was bombarded by the French cannons
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with the good Russians and therefore there are
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Ukrainians also so I'm going a little away from
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the question but it's an
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absurd situation so Europe is sending weapons to
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Ukraine Ukraine is bombing where
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these Ukrainian refugees are so that
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shows that now even from below
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it is
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Ukrainians are themselves bombed by
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their weapons
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in short so in Lugan what is very requested for
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cushions duvets mattresses to
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give what as it is much more
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bombed it asks for a lot of
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wheelchairs medicines medicines
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also that in English things like
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that and
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at Mario Paul there have been a lot of
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requests for things for
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computer screens or things like that for
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schools at Mario because it's being
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restored so they
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need help like that,
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can you explain to us in what
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conditions the
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inhabitants of Dombas live today, what are they like,
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what they live in, or do
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they still manage to have a
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pretty much normal life
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when I first came
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I was surprised that they live a
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normal life they are bombarded every
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day but they continue to live he
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continues to go to work to make
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purchases the grocery stores are full of
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food but every day when they
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leave Jesus there is a risk that
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a grave a bomb will fall in their home
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so it is their daily life and of course it
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impacts children who have been bombed
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for 9 years they have not
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gone to school for 9 years there is no water so
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water is on your mind to the guy once
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every three days since
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May there is a new
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pipeline which was built
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by the Russians and so at that time
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when we were it was necessary to fill this
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water tank but perhaps
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now the situation has changed but in
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any case when we were there there was
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no just once every three
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days already for daily life it is
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very difficult for electricity in
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some places there is no
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electricity in Logan for example there is
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no internet at all it only works with
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wi-fi so life is very
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daily life is very disrupted again
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so you have the ambition you
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told me that before preparing before
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starting this interview to write a
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book what are you going to say
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yes we have a project to write a book
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that's what we call soft power
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we are trying to reach the general public
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the writer who suggested I write this
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book and he said we are going to base it on your
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biography but a mixture of what is
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happening now because I am a
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child of the USSR I was born at
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the time of the USSR I grew up during
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the 90s when everything was
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in big
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trouble I knew Putin and I
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left Russia
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in 2010 so Putin has already managed to
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reestablish a bit of
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the case of order in the country so I
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lived I knew Russia before and
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after and so based on all that we are going to
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tell the life experience of a Russian
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who knows Russia who knows
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France and who knows why we stand
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my President and you are looking for a
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Cova life ring a publisher obviously for
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the publication of this work so
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call to interested publishers I
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remind Anna novicova so you are the
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president of the SOS Dombas association association
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who needs donations and so you
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can look for spectators send
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your donations on SOS including basse.org thank you to
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nanovicova for coming to us
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thank you very much Pierre
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Anna Novikova, fondatrice de l'association SOS Donbass, a organisé un convoi humanitaire de Pau jusqu'au Donbass en avril dernier avec des dons récoltés dans 5 pays (France, Allemagne, Espagne, Belgique, Suisse). Elle raconte les raisons qui l'ont poussées à créer son association, le voyage en camion d'un mois pour acheminer le matériel et l'accueil qu'elle a reçu des habitants du Donbass, toujours sous les bombardements des canons français César. Elle évoque aussi la propagande médiatique qui sévit en France et appelle à cesser l'armement de l'Ukraine par l'Occident pour trouver un compromis diplomatique entre la Russie et l'Ukraine afin qu'advienne la paix. Un témoignage bouleversant ! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 👉 TVL ne vit que du soutien de ses téléspectateurs ! 👉 Pour faire un don : https://www.tvl.fr/don/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Retrouvez-nous sur Odysee : https://odysee.com/@TVL:e Notre chaîne Rumble : https://rumble.com/c/c-1081443 Notre chaîne officielle Telegram : https://t.me/TVLofficiel Retrouvez-nous sur : https://www.tvl.fr/ https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser https://twitter.com/tvlofficiel?lang=fr https://www.tiktok.com/@tvl_officiel https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser

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