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США одобрили помощь Украине на $61 млрд. Что дальше?
5:44
Почему Трамп пошел на попятную
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Сколько из 61 миллиарда дойдет до Украины
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Что испортилось в отношениях Украины и США. Версии
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Россию оказалось невозможно изолировать
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Украина воюет с Путиным на последние деньги?
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Пойдет ли Россия в наступление?
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«Кому в мавзолей, кому в библиотеку». Форточка возможностей для Путина
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Мир взял курс на возвращение к холодной войне
52:11
Нападет ли Путин на Польшу
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Плющев и расследование ФБК о мэре Орска
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Полиция сорвала встречу Дунцовой с избирателями
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Good afternoon, purely concrete politics
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comes out this week on Sunday as
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usual My name is Dmitry Yalovsky I
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welcome our viewers and listeners
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to the Khodorkovsky Live channel Well, as
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usual, we will understand the intricacies of
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the world
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behind the scenes processes together with
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Vladimir Pastukhov Vladimir Borisovich
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Greetings Hello Dmitry
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Vladimir Borisovich, I’ll start with a little
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story about our internal kitchen.
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In fact, the day before we discussed with the designers the
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cover for our
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today’s issue, I asked them,
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so besides you and me, there to
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depict Biden Macron and Scholz
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who
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doubt it was somewhere during the day, which means
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the designer the cover was provided to us, everything
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is good, it means I liked it,
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events happen in the evening after which
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I write again to the designers, colleagues, the situation
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has changed, we need self-confident people,
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which means Biden and and and European
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world leaders, but what happened is what everyone
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so many were waiting for on Saturday evening, the
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Americans accepted the package assistance for 61
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billion until several months later they could not
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sign it Well, it seems that now everything
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has been agreed upon, there will be several
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bureaucratic procedures,
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after which, in an amicable way, as I understand it,
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this week the tranche will already go to the
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needs of Ukraine and, as far as I understand, the
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Pentagon already has everything ready, the
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American military is expecting from Mashka Well,
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in fact, it will continue to help
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Ukraine. This hasn’t happened since about the end of
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last year.
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Help us assess the importance of this moment,
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how much it can now make
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some changes in the course of the war,
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because over the past few weeks the situation has
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been, if not stalemate, then critical and
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more and more often we heard the alarming word
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combination front
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poses Well, if I were you, probably
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guys, I wouldn’t
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waste money, I would leave the original
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cover face
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for nothing to spoil the paper,
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you know, because in my
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opinion, this is the doubt, it
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remained as it was And I would
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still be there behind I would just add a
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photo of Trump, absolutely
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pleased with himself, and he has a thumbs up like,
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well, let him live for a while. Well, then this
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cover would be completely consistent with the
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situation we are in, that is,
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Biden is still doubtful and Trump
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with a thumbs up, like, we’re not
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finishing off Yeah but this is relatively
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good news, that is, in any case,
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that is, this relatively good news is
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that radical brutal
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and very difficult decisions are postponed,
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let’s say, for several months.
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And yet, in absolute terms,
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this is nothing. Decisive news
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because help has been given in
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format in
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volumes of mechanics such that it is absolutely
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insufficient not only for
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Ukraine’s military victory in this war, but also in
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order to provide stable and
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long-term resistance to Russia under the
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existing circumstances. That is, I
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would say such a supporting
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dropper
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is the whole problem, that is, I’m already in
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the morning there, well, active users
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wrote
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comments Well, you said that there would be
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no help. Isn’t it time to apologize? Well,
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how come we have people who are
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direct here, two points? I never
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said that there would be no help, I always
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said
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that help is late and that it will not be
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provided in the
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VM And that it will only be provided in a
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situation when it becomes extremely
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critical, so I should apologize here Not
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for anything, what I predicted, what
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happened, that is, the very fact that this
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help has now been given This is rather a
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frightening fact for me Unfortunately, a frightening fact
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that is a whistle Tom for now those fux Groups
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in Washington who mebo
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for from Ukraine and on the Blood of
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Ukraine, there was a feeling that the situation was
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really critical and it’s
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dangerous to continue playing this game, why is it dangerous
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because in fact Ukraine has become,
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well, some kind of bargaining chip in the
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election campaign and in this
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electoral trump,
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trying to make the
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situation for Biden The worse the better
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for Trump and the worse for Biden If,
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as it were, the crisis in Ukraine
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is not resolved by Biden and Trump
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played this game and approximately apparently Well,
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within two weeks he began to receive
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signals of what could happen it is exactly
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the opposite that he can take one
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extra card from the deck and the front can
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crumble and
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then Trump will not win but lose.
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Why Because Biden will say that
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look, we lost Ukraine because of someone
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because of Trump, that is, we, we had a
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strategy, it couldn’t be said that
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she was someone will check we were ready for anything
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our guns would be
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Dawn tram
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more than once the sun it collapsed the front broke through
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who is responsible Trump and the
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Republicans
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To avoid a similar situation
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about a week ago Trump gives
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the go-ahead which by the way for me shows
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that after all the Republican Party they are
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quite powerfully controlled and the position of the
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Republicans is warming up and
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they are carrying out this aid package which
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is carrying out the aid package. I think that you and I
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will look at it later, which in fact turns
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out to be
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minimalist like
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this
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Arvo, well, it seems like there is
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no help, it seems as if there is it
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I have an anxious expectation, that
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is, in essence, Further in moss performances
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from 3-4 months to six months
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and
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life on a
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diet and beyond We find ourselves in the same
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situation Let's really
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look at this package in more detail before that I will address
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our viewers, friends, do not forget
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to like I suggest doing this at the
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moment when you are interested or you
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like some idea question judgment
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Well, check if you are subscribed to Narvsky,
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we have a lot of useful and interesting things Well, of
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course, we also read all the comments, Honestly, a
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package of 60 billion,
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as far as I understand, somewhere half of
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it is
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replenishment of the Arsenal that
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was spent directly by the
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Americans, plus expenses for their
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activities in Europe, including NATO,
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small fragments segments Yes, this
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pie is going So to help Israel for
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humanitarian purposes, don’t look
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Dmitry Yes, the packages are divided there Why
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Because As far as I understand, 60 is
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still
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only for Ukraine, as it were, only for
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Ukraine now let’s go back to this, the overall
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package there, in my opinion, was
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voted and Taiwan Well, in general, this is
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Indo and the
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Pacific region is allocated separately
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Israel, as it were, is also allocated separately, that
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is Now, let's discuss Ukraine. There, in
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my opinion, there are 61 billion somewhere. But then this is a
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classic story with all sorts of
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American assistance, which is well
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known to those who lived in these controversial
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nineties, when a Grant is issued there,
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they say what kind of Grant. Well, they didn’t
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write me out, but I watched how for those
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who are lucky and that there is a significant
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part of this Grant, it immediately
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goes to serve those people who are
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engaged in issuing
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grants, that is, in general, this
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assistance is considered
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very specific by the Americans, that is, they immediately
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put all the accounting expenses into the assistance,
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let’s say so global
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accounting, so then it turns out
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that out of these six billion, well, you can
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argue there, you have to figure it out with a magnifying glass, but it
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turns out that
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about 13 14 billion are spent simply on
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stupidly
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replenishing their own warehouses, which were
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slightly emptied when Ukraine
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was given weapons in the program, then 7 billion
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is spent on routine financing the
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activities of the American contingent in
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Europe Well, they are, as it were, there and
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they are flying spiolto satellites,
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additional patrolling, all
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this is all taken into account, that is, it seems like
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assistance from Ukraine, but Ukraine will not
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see it further from the rest,
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and there are not quite clear to me, but
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two categories that is, one
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somewhere around 14 billion, this is understandable, just
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what goes into the supply of weapons. As I
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understand it, this is shells and 14 billion for the
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purchase of high-tech weapons. I do
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n’t quite understand these 14 billion, is this
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also for Ukraine or not, well, I’ll assume
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the best that it is also for Ukraine we
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will be talking about high-tech
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assistance, that is, if this is so, then relatively
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speaking, to help Ukraine, well, somewhere around 28-30
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billion, that’s the actual assistance allocated,
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plus there
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is help,
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strictly speaking financially, because
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Ukraine somehow needs to
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balance the budget there Civil
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life does not stop and
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7.5 billion are given for this.
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Now we don’t see exactly how these,
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relatively speaking, 13 and 13 billion will be
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distributed over
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time, there is an assumption I
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heard from experts who
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understand this, that from the very the beginning
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will be divided in such a way that a
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significant part of it, say a third, will be
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reserved for the next year and it
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will be like a kind of reserve that Ukraine
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can use in the event that
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another administration comes and then the
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funding will be completely
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blocked, but one way or another it will be
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extended in time, that is, here and
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now, it will be possible to use a much
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smaller amount, and now, the
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accompanying conditions, in general, I would
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say that there is a whole complex. Well, not
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that humiliating, but
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such signal conditions that did
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not exist before. That is, the first thing is that all this
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help is provided in form of
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a loan, that is, it is no longer
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gratuitous assistance, and in this sense, there is
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Kremlin Propaganda,
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which
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has been lying to itself all these 2 years now. Because Yes,
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indeed, this will now
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accumulate as Ukraine’s debt, it is an
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irrevocable debt. That is, it is absolutely
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clear, an irrecoverable debt because the
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state It will be quite difficult for Ukraine for a decade
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to pay off
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these debts, it’s
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like Soviet debts to African countries,
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that is, they do not exist to
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get money back in order
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to have a constant subject of
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conversation,
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that is, I don’t think that anyone who made
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these changes they They are counting on the fact that
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this money will someday be returned. But
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they make it clear that we will
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talk to you on the principle that for every
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vitamin we feed you, we will ask for a lot of
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small services. That is, this is such a signal, and
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at the same time, as if this signal was not
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considered necessary to
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send for Ukraine And they considered it
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necessary to send him for the
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electorate, which, apparently, is
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also already beginning to lean towards the fact that
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he was too
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generous, this is also such a signal that
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indicates a change in
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the situation; second, there are a lot of words,
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it is not clear how all this
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will be implemented about strengthening
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personal control of targeted
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control over the use of all this
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assistance Apparently, this is
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the mythology that the
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country is a very corrupt country and therefore
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everything is lost there, it begins
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to work on the capitalist hill and there are obvious ones there are
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such bookmarks, I would say that do
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not directly talk about corruption but suggest
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its existence
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therefore everywhere conditions the
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provision of
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assistance with very strict control. What does this
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mean? This means that there are bookmarks in order to
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put any moment on Hold, that is,
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to slow down, that is, the pretext, you know
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Anishchenko is not the first of our former sanitary
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doctor was born in the world, that is, you can always
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find what -the pretext is some kind of
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suspicion
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that can be used to
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slow down the process, and finally
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the third such transitory element is
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essential: this is also such a
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bookmark that allows you to twirl this
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bill like a drawbar, that it includes
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demands that this assistance is
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provided on the terms that the
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US partners the alliance
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is provided with an agreed
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proportional amount of their assistance. Well, that is,
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as if we gave 60 billion, then we have
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some kind of scattering of it
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all over our heads, which means Germany is
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so much, France is so much, Holland is
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so much, well, and there Greece is very little
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everything- at least something there is conditional, and
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then, well, imagine that someone does
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n’t give it. That is, this is a constant reason for
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someone to raise the question that
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look,
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the conditions for financing the pledged
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bill are not met, which means
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they can slow it down, that is, there are a lot of
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bookmarks that makes this
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bill so instrumental
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that it can be used as a lever in a
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certain sense of certain pressure.
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That is, this is very different from the
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conditions
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under which military financial assistance to
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Ukraine was
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initially provided to the basic conclusion that I draw.
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Unfortunately, Zelensky and his team
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have lost a lot in their authority in those
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opportunities that they had since the beginning of
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the war and to provide vital
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assistance. From the West, Ukraine in this
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war is often unable to do so.
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That is, they do not have enough
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lobbying capabilities to do this at the
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level that Ukraine
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needs today, then I can’t help but ask
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Was there any chance at all of getting
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everything that was needed, everything that was needed, not
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just these homeopathic and
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teaspoons, but a really large volume with
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everything that the Ukrainians needed, including all these
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types of weapons that the Ukrainians needed?
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For a speedy victory over Putin,
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you know, we
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will find out after many years about what
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happened and where the cat ran, but it is
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completely clear that the situation began to
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worsen
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approximately Since the end of last summer,
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when something like this happened with the
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Ukrainian
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offensive, which was perceived by the West
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as the collapse of its hope,
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illusion. What happened, you understand, we have a
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huge number of rumors going on there
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is a version that
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the West gave incorrect
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advice which, in general, if
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implemented, would have led to a
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catastrophic defeat of the Ukrainian
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army Well, because it was forced to
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attack
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And without aviation cover, which the West did not
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provide, and
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with still not
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enough weapons for an offensive,
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let not the same as now
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shell famine, but still there were
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few of them And they had to attack head-on
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through the positions that Russia was preparing
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precisely for Such a scenario over the
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previous year and as a result a
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decision was made Well, in fact,
00:19:00
to minimize these risks, just
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take it and it’s
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stupid to lose the army and he acted like such a
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kutuzov who seems to be saying to
00:19:12
lose Moscow there to lose the offensive
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but save the army Well, it’s like this is
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one version of events there, another version
00:19:20
says that, in fact,
00:19:23
the American and Western advisers
00:19:25
advised something completely different. That is, they
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just put all the eggs in one
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basket hit with a narrow wedge in one
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place Throw everything you have in one
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second and then there would be a chance to
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really break through But if you
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smear it all with
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a fine smear, spread it in a thin layer on bread,
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then nothing would come of it initially,
00:19:49
but I have it here such a question Well,
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yes, that is, there are
00:19:55
situations in life and when
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you can take responsibility.
00:20:01
Let's put it all down. Well, that is, I, in principle,
00:20:04
understand the military leadership of Ukraine,
00:20:07
which was not ready to play the game.
00:20:11
We have 15
00:20:13
chances out of 100 to win. Let's go for
00:20:18
these 15 let’s put the whole army in Well, we’ll see
00:20:20
what happens, but nevertheless there is a version
00:20:22
that the plan was different I’m not a military expert
00:20:25
I don’t know, something went wrong, that is,
00:20:28
after,
00:20:29
but nevertheless, this is how
00:20:33
Ukrainian policy was built that all relations with
00:20:37
the West are were tied to a certain
00:20:41
legend, the inevitable Victory of Ukraine in
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this
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offensive, and when you rely so heavily
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on this and when this
00:20:50
event does not happen, then there is
00:20:53
definitely a rollback, that is, a
00:20:56
new paradigm is being formed
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that sounded So a military
00:21:03
Victory in this war on the part of Ukraine is
00:21:06
not achieved
00:21:08
But this is probably the main
00:21:12
reason why,
00:21:14
in principle, the attitude
00:21:18
towards
00:21:19
support has changed, that is, something happened
00:21:22
at the turn of the summer-autumn of last year that is in the
00:21:26
minds of not only
00:21:28
decision-makers, but also in
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reality, since the West is a
00:21:35
mostly democratic environment that is, in all
00:21:37
these
00:21:38
numerous public institutions
00:21:41
there was a feeling that military Victory in the
00:21:45
foreseeable future was unattainable,
00:21:48
that we would throw everything into the pattern of a
00:21:52
resource war for survival, where
00:21:55
the winner is the one who will simply remain alive for a long time
00:21:58
and the enemy will die. Well, roughly speaking,
00:22:02
the trust will burst from internal tension
00:22:05
that is, in fact, it looks like the
00:22:07
truth and, in fact, the same person
00:22:10
wrote this in his sensational
00:22:13
article in economics. Which I think
00:22:15
ultimately led to
00:22:18
his resignation And then the next question is that
00:22:22
we have such a game
00:22:25
that essentially its goal is a
00:22:30
revolution either in Russia or in
00:22:33
Ukraine, that is, the war itself is
00:22:35
not waged in order to break through the
00:22:39
front to occupy territory and so on. It is
00:22:41
waged in order to look for
00:22:43
enemy forces and ultimately so that the
00:22:45
rear, that is, the front of the grater, collapses. at
00:22:50
the front they exist in order to pull down the
00:22:53
poles from the shackle,
00:22:59
in fact, in this case, it’s no longer with Russia,
00:23:01
but with
00:23:02
China, because
00:23:05
the situation is clear. Russia can, of course,
00:23:07
wage a war a little longer than Ukraine,
00:23:09
but it also
00:23:12
cannot wage a war there on its own indefinitely,
00:23:16
and Ukraine can now wage a war on
00:23:19
its own without external support it
00:23:21
cannot, in
00:23:23
principle. Thus, the West has a
00:23:26
New
00:23:27
reality: if in the first so-
00:23:30
called heroic segment of the war they
00:23:33
understood that they were fighting Russia through
00:23:38
Ukraine, then in the second section of the war
00:23:41
there was a firm understanding that they were
00:23:43
fighting China through Russia and
00:23:46
Ukraine And this is a slightly different situation,
00:23:49
you understand that you are already starting to consider that you are
00:23:52
ready to compete with China in the years to come, so to speak,
00:23:54
when the Chinese
00:23:57
money, not the Russian one, cracks and China
00:24:01
says that no more, it can no longer supply through
00:24:04
its proxies North Korea and
00:24:07
Iran through a partial proxy there
00:24:11
the components necessary for Russia,
00:24:13
weapons and everything
00:24:15
else,
00:24:18
plus added to this is the clear
00:24:22
feeling
00:24:23
that it is not public opinion or the economy that
00:24:29
the world is not ready for and is not able to
00:24:32
carry out the complete isolation of Russia, that
00:24:35
is, Russia continues to
00:24:37
receive colossal windfall profits from
00:24:41
the sale of energy resources. Yes, it now
00:24:44
sells oil to there are basins there that at any
00:24:48
moment threaten to capsize and create
00:24:51
dozens of environmental disasters in the
00:24:53
Baltic Sea anywhere, but
00:24:56
nevertheless I found a way.
00:24:59
All this led to the fact that the
00:25:03
approach changed. You see, there wasn’t something there, the
00:25:06
approach changed and this approach became
00:25:10
cynically
00:25:11
pragmatic that is, they began to consider not
00:25:14
so much justice as money in the
00:25:17
pocket, and counting this money in the pocket,
00:25:21
they came to the conclusion
00:25:22
that the war was becoming too
00:25:27
expensive an invoice and the main thing is that it is not a
00:25:30
reason to fit in
00:25:33
completely, this is very important. That is, this is what the
00:25:37
situation always reminded me of
00:25:39
cat
00:25:40
house I called Not forever and today is not
00:25:45
Wednesday, and therefore it suddenly turned out
00:25:50
that both public opinion and the
00:25:57
decision-making center reacting accordingly to this public opinion say that there is a certain
00:26:00
limited limit of what they can
00:26:03
give; this limited limit is in
00:26:05
space, that is, in terms of volume and
00:26:07
time.
00:26:09
And therefore, I would not say that all these,
00:26:12
that is, of course, were influenced by the
00:26:16
election campaign in the United States with all the
00:26:22
attendant additional complications,
00:26:24
but this is not the main thing, you understand. The main thing is that the
00:26:26
approach has changed,
00:26:29
the approach has changed and when it changed It has already become
00:26:31
clear that there is no motivation and
00:26:36
courage to provide
00:26:38
assistance to Ukraine in the required volumes,
00:26:41
that is, the question then became not about
00:26:44
the assistance that is necessary in order to
00:26:46
adequately end this war, but about
00:26:50
the assistance that is necessary so
00:26:53
that Ukraine does not lose
00:26:55
defeat here and there it is necessary Well, some
00:26:59
conditions must be met and now the dispute has already become that
00:27:02
is, Dmitry, in principle it turns out
00:27:05
that they went down to another floor, went down to the
00:27:08
floor below from the discussion of what needs to be given
00:27:12
in order to adequately end the war of
00:27:15
victories for Ukraine, went down to the
00:27:18
floor What needs to be given as a minimum in order to
00:27:21
Ukraine has not suffered
00:27:23
defeat in the near future. Uh-huh. And
00:27:26
when the discussion went in this direction
00:27:30
and then it was
00:27:32
dragged out and then it was dragged out for six months, that
00:27:35
is, making the situation critical, making the
00:27:38
situation critical, exposing Zelensky
00:27:41
very much, forcing
00:27:43
Zelensky to come out with this law of
00:27:45
mobilization, which causes a lot
00:27:48
complaints and such rejection of the Ukrainian
00:27:52
society, forcing them to go through this
00:27:55
difficult situation
00:27:58
when the front is rolling back, created out of
00:28:01
nowhere a real threat
00:28:04
that in such conditions it is already really
00:28:07
possible to attack Kharkov and lose
00:28:11
territory on a much larger scale
00:28:13
than what happened and without doing
00:28:16
anything is changing That is, this means
00:28:18
that Zelensky is being squeezed out for something
00:28:20
Zelensky is being squeezed out for something That's
00:28:23
why this department has made a
00:28:26
conversational decision and no one is
00:28:31
going to throw him a Lifebuoy
00:28:34
To give them decisions
00:28:37
to avoid so I don't have any
00:28:39
euphoria
00:28:41
about this one Now voted for
00:28:45
help is natural after Trump's change of
00:28:47
position.
00:28:49
I had no doubt that it would be given
00:28:53
naturally recently after the
00:28:59
attack on Kharkov had already been formed. I had no doubt that
00:29:02
Trump, with his intuition, would change his
00:29:04
position because
00:29:07
it was too risky, it was already quite a
00:29:10
casino because he risked becoming like
00:29:14
if he were the main culprit for the defeat of Ukraine,
00:29:17
he doesn’t need this, that is, he needs to
00:29:19
hold out this situation too by some kind of
00:29:27
exchange, but it gives the
00:29:30
opportunity to not even exhale just a
00:29:32
little, just breathe and not
00:29:35
exhale, let’s say for a few
00:29:37
months further on, it’s unclear what
00:29:40
will happen because either something will happen
00:29:42
within a few months, or we
00:29:44
will find ourselves in a situation where there is no money but
00:29:46
you hold on vavich Well, just for
00:29:49
context, here is the amount since the beginning of
00:29:52
Russia’s full-scale invasion of
00:29:55
Ukraine, the Americans have allocated
00:29:59
113 billion dollars for the war and assistance to Ukraine, this is
00:30:03
data from the Institute for the Study of War
00:30:07
75 billion was sent directly to
00:30:10
Ukraine 38 Well, approximately, that is, we can
00:30:13
count half Yes, this is what the
00:30:17
United States of America themselves spent,
00:30:19
just to understand the level of
00:30:21
figures, it is said that for an unlimited
00:30:25
future, that is, for a year. Select the amount
00:30:28
that we are counting Well about 25
00:30:31
billion is plus or minus what
00:30:34
realistically will go towards that is, you know,
00:30:37
it’s simply not comparable and at the same time there is
00:30:41
such a feeling you know flr such that the
00:30:44
last money Yes Last autumn the
00:30:46
last money this is this, this is
00:30:49
actually a very good comparison
00:30:51
then there is another comparison in a
00:30:53
simpler way, I looked for this figure, I think that it is
00:30:55
underestimated, but what is
00:30:59
there, Reznikov, in my opinion, in his interview
00:31:02
last fall, said that a day of
00:31:05
war costs 100 million dollars in Ukraine,
00:31:07
I think that it costs more,
00:31:09
significantly more, but since this the
00:31:12
official figure is announced Well, we
00:31:15
take 100 million dollars. This means that a month of
00:31:18
war costs 3 billion, at least this does not
00:31:22
count everything else. But this
00:31:25
means
00:31:26
that Ukraine needs to receive a minimum of direct expenses
00:31:30
from somewhere, well, 36 billion a year,
00:31:37
you know. I think that in reality That
00:31:41
is,
00:31:43
taking into account the economy, that is, we are
00:31:45
now talking here from 2025, that is,
00:31:48
in a much worse situation,
00:31:51
that is, paving, as I said, this is
00:31:54
several months of six months of conducting a session,
00:31:58
we are in a situation where let’s say this
00:32:00
help will begin to arrive In a week Well,
00:32:03
let’s go there relatively speaking, from May 1 Well, from
00:32:06
May 1, 6
00:32:08
months Well, until November, and
00:32:11
then we have elections. Well, actually,
00:32:13
look how interesting they are. And
00:32:16
then the elections,
00:32:17
therefore, made it
00:32:19
possible, in
00:32:21
principle, not to collapse the front while they
00:32:25
sort it out among themselves. Well, how It
00:32:28
seems to me that different types of military operations,
00:32:31
different operations require different
00:32:33
budgeting, and some somewhere,
00:32:36
sometime you can spend less money, but I
00:32:39
believe that if you are not just
00:32:42
in deep defense Yes, you try
00:32:45
somehow and try to hold back the front, and then
00:32:47
intense military operations require
00:32:49
you to inject more money, well, look,
00:32:53
you yourself practically
00:32:56
laid down the answer in the question, that is, with
00:32:58
the funding that we see. I think
00:33:01
that the talk about a possible new
00:33:08
strategic offensive by Ukraine They are baseless, that
00:33:10
is, I think that this type of assistance is
00:33:15
aimed at to help Ukraine
00:33:18
Organizing a strategic
00:33:21
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00:33:22
defense is good, but here’s a thesis for you that
00:33:25
means the lack of progress is a regression
00:33:28
for America and Ukraine Now it seems like
00:33:32
some kind of small impulse has emerged. Even if it’s
00:33:34
weak. Even if it’s
00:33:37
insufficient, but still let’s go back to the
00:33:39
beginning of our conversation This is good
00:33:41
news, but for Russia that Russia can
00:33:45
now respond with something in this regard,
00:33:48
does it have any contacts? I don’t
00:33:51
know. Apart from North Korea, there is no
00:33:54
surge in mobilization. That is, it
00:33:57
could really be against the background of that
00:33:58
that Putin’s troops, Putin’s officials
00:34:02
and the military are not doing anything now,
00:34:05
this American tranche may be
00:34:09
more successful than if there were
00:34:12
some parallel processes going on in Russia
00:34:14
that could be compared in volume and
00:34:15
scale with American assistance.
00:34:17
Sorry, that’s enough, because Iva put it but
00:34:21
then, in principle, you may be
00:34:23
right Why Because Moreover,
00:34:26
Ukrainian society continues
00:34:28
to remain much more open and,
00:34:30
accordingly, there its problems we have
00:34:33
the opportunity to openly discuss and see, which
00:34:36
means Russian society is becoming
00:34:39
more and more closed and there are opportunities to
00:34:42
receive adequate objective
00:34:43
information about the state there is less and less business in the army at
00:34:47
the front and in the rear, that
00:34:49
is, we can only see
00:34:53
some kind of propaganda picture there. Well,
00:34:58
experts receive some fragmentary indirect data, that is, the general
00:35:00
impression is
00:35:02
that Russia is on some kind of Plateau
00:35:06
of Stability, but at this is also not
00:35:09
infinite We just don’t see We We
00:35:11
really don’t see these problems We really do
00:35:14
n’t see these problems nevertheless,
00:35:16
first of all, we don’t see the real
00:35:18
state of the army We don’t understand what’s
00:35:23
happening in the army today We saw it when Prigozhinsky was
00:35:28
here one flux opened up and from there pus
00:35:31
flowed out in such a full volume, sometimes
00:35:35
small pimples open up. Well,
00:35:37
we remember this dismissal of
00:35:41
Spartak, the commander p8 and then Spartak
00:35:44
was there and a lot of
00:35:47
pus spilled around it, that is, it became clear that
00:35:49
in general they were fighting like 150 years ago. That is, to
00:35:54
me it was more reminiscent of the stories about the Ruhr at the
00:35:58
end of the century, when more people died
00:36:03
from disease than directly in battle, that
00:36:06
is, I can assume that the situation
00:36:09
in fact is also not so hot
00:36:14
and that Ukraine will receive a certain
00:36:18
respite and the shell
00:36:21
hunger will be the same from my point of view
00:36:28
saying this will aggravate this situation is an
00:36:31
indirect sign that the situation
00:36:35
is not ideal and that even
00:36:39
this help is
00:36:40
not useful, let’s say for the Kremlin
00:36:44
is that the Kremlin is now actively
00:36:46
playing the game by sending a rather
00:36:50
unequivocal message
00:36:56
at the moment, I’m not talking about whether it is ready
00:37:00
actually stop it, but obviously he
00:37:02
wants to play this game and he wants
00:37:04
to play this game not because of a good life,
00:37:06
that is, we see that Russia in this
00:37:09
situation is playing cat and mouse with
00:37:15
Europe, perhaps with America too, but in
00:37:18
Europe This is good visible and sends a signal
00:37:20
that she is ready to end the war on
00:37:23
the terms if a piece remains for her,
00:37:27
this piece
00:37:41
was snatched from Medvedev, but in general it
00:37:44
is not so
00:37:46
popular now. Therefore, yes, we can
00:37:49
see in principle that this
00:37:52
injection here may, under certain
00:37:55
circumstances, turn out to be the
00:38:00
Putin clan I’m inclined to think that
00:38:03
he
00:38:06
needs a break, relatively speaking, now
00:38:10
it turns into something, that is. Let’s say,
00:38:12
let’s say they know something that we don’t know,
00:38:15
they better count their bins and
00:38:18
understand that for them this is also a
00:38:28
break. Well, you see, there’s no break
00:38:33
at all in our area there is nothing more
00:38:37
permanent than temporary, you know, that is,
00:38:39
as soon as it goes, the respite
00:38:42
may end instantly, or it may
00:38:44
drag on for decades. Well, in a
00:38:47
sense, Russia and Japan still have
00:38:51
a respite. Well, let’s be so objective, we are
00:38:54
de facto in a sense
00:38:58
there is no state of war mirato, but as it were, well, everything is already as if there was a
00:39:03
respite from the Baltic, no one
00:39:06
recognized it, it was an occupation, but it lasted
00:39:10
almost 50 years there,
00:39:14
and then when the system collapsed, everything
00:39:17
won back. That is, while we are talking about some kind of
00:39:20
respite, and it may be inclined
00:39:26
he can pretend that he is leaning toward this,
00:39:28
and then when he pulls
00:39:32
Zelensky into negotiations, he can say, and
00:39:36
now we want this, this
00:39:39
complete disarmament, the withdrawal of all
00:39:41
foreign troops, the arrest of all Nazis, and
00:39:45
this is the case, and so on. All the negotiations are at a
00:39:49
dead end, maybe like this to behave quite well, this
00:39:51
will discredit Zelensky. And maybe he can
00:39:54
really say well, we’re on the
00:39:55
same day, he
00:39:57
makes it clear there under the conditions of the Istanbul
00:40:00
agreement, plus or minus something. They are ready to
00:40:02
gain a foothold along this line on
00:40:04
certain conditions. Well, that’s how
00:40:06
the war is moving And into this format on the
00:40:09
fourteenth 'twenty-two,
00:40:13
that is, there will be a shootout there will be
00:40:15
tension, but in general, as if
00:40:18
intense, this will allow some kind of maneuver
00:40:21
with those mobilized on both sides to make
00:40:24
some part of the population there, bring
00:40:26
back
00:40:28
some social problems to start
00:40:31
Raskino, then the question arises Well,
00:40:33
okay and Zelensky can
00:40:35
afford it Well, let’s say, yes, with Zelensky
00:40:39
I think it’s more difficult now than with the Kremlin
00:40:41
because,
00:40:43
paradoxically, in principle, tactically
00:40:46
Putin can
00:40:47
afford it; another question is that the
00:40:51
strategic consequences for the regime of transition to
00:40:54
peacetime will be catastrophic.
00:40:57
Well, that’s how they are they will feel it later,
00:41:00
we can
00:41:02
predict it like this,
00:41:04
you had accidents, there were no settings,
00:41:08
you had
00:41:10
serious internal political problems, no, they will be in
00:41:13
peaceful conditions, but they may
00:41:16
believe us, they may not believe us, but for
00:41:19
Zelensky, there is exactly the opposite
00:41:22
situation, there is no fortune teller here it must
00:41:24
be clear that for him, in
00:41:27
fact, the phrase itself is good. I am
00:41:30
entering into a negotiation process with
00:41:32
Putin. Well, this is already
00:41:35
Polukhina becoming a
00:41:39
DB. This is the problem. I don’t understand how
00:41:43
I think that he realizes this. And this is
00:41:45
his movement now back and forth all the
00:41:48
time they remind me more of this
00:41:51
very complex
00:41:53
humanitarian
00:41:56
preparation for what is possible. Well, in
00:41:59
a sense,
00:42:00
a maneuver. Well, I’ll probably add one more thing,
00:42:04
knowing Putin as a tactician who
00:42:09
is trying
00:42:10
to respond to the current situation. Yes,
00:42:14
you can expect some kind of in the near future, probably in the
00:42:16
next few days or weeks.
00:42:20
then there is a massive
00:42:22
Russian offensive at the front to take advantage of
00:42:24
this
00:42:26
[music]
00:42:28
like the
00:42:29
American law was signed Yes, help
00:42:31
was allocated but nothing has arrived yet And
00:42:34
now there is such a small window of
00:42:36
opportunity for Putin’s troops What do you
00:42:39
think, will you agree or not Well, I
00:42:42
just don’t have the competence for this
00:42:44
because an offensive is Possible when there are
00:42:46
appropriate
00:42:48
strategic reserves for this, that is, an
00:42:51
offensive is an offensive
00:42:53
itno
00:42:54
after the fact,
00:42:57
but it does not lead to the
00:43:01
results that Moscow
00:43:02
was counting on, that is, there is no
00:43:04
strategic breakthrough, that is, they
00:43:06
have advanced there by 10-15 km, they
00:43:09
occupy this village that village, but they
00:43:12
cannot enter the operational space in
00:43:14
this sense, despite the shell hunger
00:43:16
and everything else, they are holding their
00:43:19
positions, so it cannot be said that
00:43:21
they did not advance, they will
00:43:24
attack, it is already more difficult to implement
00:43:26
what you said, but they are already advancing and
00:43:28
you need to understand And that’s why they didn’t
00:43:31
succeed yesterday. So they want to break through this
00:43:33
front line there for several months, you’ve been
00:43:36
saying. Now they’re going to launch an
00:43:37
offensive. Well, what were you waiting for, waiting for
00:43:39
Congress to vote? I think it’s not
00:43:42
that simple, that is, my
00:43:43
feeling
00:43:46
is, you know, remember how the dragon was killed, he says
00:43:49
he wanted to kill me, he says if he
00:43:51
wanted to kill you, he would have already killed you if
00:43:54
they could attack, they would have already
00:43:55
attacked, you understand, there
00:43:57
are no benefits for them to wait
00:44:02
until Congress votes, I think that the
00:44:04
lack of offensive was due to the fact
00:44:06
that there were no resources for such an offensive
00:44:09
now the answer then will there be an
00:44:14
offensive? The answer to this question is
00:44:15
not connected with the fact that
00:44:18
American help will not come. But with whether,
00:44:21
relatively speaking, they have managed to accumulate enough operational reserves over the last month and a half
00:44:27
and whether they will risk throwing them into battle, you
00:44:30
understand, after all, an offensive is an offensive
00:44:33
this is always a double-edged sword. With all
00:44:36
that, in such a serious offensive you
00:44:39
open up and here, in general, there
00:44:45
is always a chance that you will launch an offensive and
00:44:48
then the attack will come and they will cut you up,
00:44:52
so I’m not so sure How are
00:44:56
you that in the near future This is an offensive
00:44:59
will take place I would rather say that if
00:45:02
nothing changes, Russia
00:45:04
will try to organize a summer
00:45:06
offensive. Well, having prepared for
00:45:09
this for a few more months, the standard
00:45:12
time for these latitudes is June July, so I did
00:45:15
n’t immediately understand, offering questions
00:45:20
from the audience to discuss, there remains about a
00:45:23
quarter of our Sunday service, let me
00:45:26
remind you that
00:45:27
viewers can Send their wishes and
00:45:30
questions to me on the Telegram channel link in the
00:45:33
description also in the description link to
00:45:34
Pastukhov’s kitchens This is
00:45:37
Vladimir Borisovich’s program with Boris
00:45:39
Vladimirovich and Pastukhov’s Telegram channel is
00:45:42
also in
00:45:44
the description so the question is our viewer or
00:45:48
viewer from Bashkiria, it’s not very
00:45:50
clear A if the front still waits until a
00:45:54
miracle occurs, what will the West do, run
00:45:57
with bulging eyes or line up
00:45:59
in Moscow to bow Thank you from
00:46:02
Bashkiria, your latest kitchen release is
00:46:04
again a very
00:46:08
task, well, if the front sleeps,
00:46:11
then it will have to be patched up Well, such a simple
00:46:15
answer I I don’t think that the West is
00:46:20
ready to abandon the idea of ​​​​supporting
00:46:24
Ukraine, preserving Ukraine as a
00:46:26
sovereign
00:46:27
independent and
00:46:37
orienting additional
00:46:40
resources have been found from Europe and for the supply of
00:46:44
additional weapons. And then everything
00:46:47
will depend on
00:46:50
Zelensky’s ability not to delay mobilization
00:46:54
but to form
00:46:57
new brigades and quickly arm and
00:47:00
abandon them them going into battle, this will
00:47:02
of course be associated with very large
00:47:03
casualties,
00:47:05
since quite a lot of
00:47:07
poorly trained people will be forced, well,
00:47:10
in the
00:47:12
defense regime of Kiev in 1941,
00:47:16
to go into battle and then, as it were, at the third
00:47:19
level, this will be a kind of test of
00:47:21
Ukrainian society
00:47:24
for the readiness of everything - it’s real to go to
00:47:27
the end. So we don’t know. Now,
00:47:30
this is the situation of what kind of pause there was. And it’s like,
00:47:33
well, all
00:47:35
sorts of images, and this, too, will
00:47:40
once again put people in front of the mirror, and
00:47:43
this is the patriotic feeling
00:47:45
that seems to us to have dulled anyway
00:47:49
For these 2 years and that people there are already tired,
00:47:52
but this fatigue can pass, you understand,
00:47:54
and a breakthrough of the front may turn out to be three
00:47:58
in one direction or the other, but
00:48:00
it may also turn out to be a trigger for the
00:48:03
resumption of a new session of passionarity,
00:48:06
that is, therefore, I think
00:48:09
that simply if this happens,
00:48:13
then the next stabilization will occur in a
00:48:16
much worse situation, that is, let’s
00:48:20
say there. If today Moscow is conducting
00:48:24
separate peace negotiations with the West
00:48:28
along the lines of a
00:48:31
piece of the Zaporozhye and Kherson
00:48:34
regions, a
00:48:35
piece of the Donetsk region and almost the entire
00:48:40
Lugansk region, then relatively speaking at the
00:48:43
next level we will be talking about
00:48:47
approximately territories in twice
00:48:50
as much as the current one Well, yes, this
00:48:53
will be a problem, I think that the line of those
00:48:57
who want to talk to Moscow is already
00:48:59
standing and will not get any longer. Whoever wants it is
00:49:02
talking over there. We see that
00:49:07
Orban not only feels great,
00:49:10
but most likely even takes money there
00:49:12
Moscow for the purchase of Eurovision, as it now
00:49:16
turns out, so everything is
00:49:18
fine there. People have already decided, you
00:49:20
know, they have already formed,
00:49:22
whoever wants
00:49:24
the library is in the audience, Catherine from
00:49:29
Pskov, if the West is ready to sell Ukraine,
00:49:32
then why is everyone looking for a million shells on the initiative of the Czech Republic?
00:49:34
Why is Macron
00:49:36
launching a weapons factory that
00:49:38
should be operating by the twenty-fifth year or are
00:49:40
they already doing it for themselves?
00:49:42
Well, the correct answer is they are already
00:49:45
doing it for themselves, yes. That is, in principle, it is
00:49:48
necessary to separate two completely unrelated
00:49:53
questions: has the West realized
00:49:56
that Russia is
00:49:59
such a natural enemy And in
00:50:03
relation to which you need to keep your ear to
00:50:05
the ground. That is, this is the Bear Shatun in
00:50:07
the den. Well, yes, I realized whether it’s fair or
00:50:10
not. It seems that this will have to be decided by the
00:50:13
next generation of Russians who
00:50:15
will have to break this idea of ​​​​themselves,
00:50:17
but it has now formed and therefore, in
00:50:22
general, this is the course for a return to the Cold
00:50:26
War,
00:50:27
from my point of view, it is considered
00:50:31
a consensus, that is, no matter
00:50:33
what happens to
00:50:35
Ukraine, I can predict that
00:50:39
Europe will not live as it lived,
00:50:42
relatively speaking, well, after the collapse of the
00:50:45
Berlin Wall and before this war, that
00:50:48
is, it will be it means that the military
00:50:50
component, that
00:50:53
is, in the euro,
00:50:57
will be in
00:51:00
vogue again, this means an increase, well, from my point of
00:51:04
view, military spending there is up by
00:51:08
one and a half to two percent
00:51:09
per GDP,
00:51:13
this
00:51:15
means a return to the
00:51:17
arms race, this means
00:51:20
if
00:51:22
the Americans go further with isolationism
00:51:25
in the sky
00:51:27
Well, as it were, the creation of a whole -then the
00:51:28
European army will not be able to escape here.
00:51:31
Although I doubt that in the end
00:51:34
isolationism will win in full
00:51:37
force in America, that is, it is one thing to frighten and another thing to
00:51:40
put it into practice because it is
00:51:42
not
00:51:44
beneficial for ourselves and in this sense
00:51:50
everything has nothing to do with because they are far from
00:51:54
ready to support Ukraine, I would
00:51:56
say that they are aimed at a cold
00:51:59
war, but at the same time, they would like to
00:52:01
end the hot war and
00:52:05
the risks associated with it as soon as possible because
00:52:07
they know how to behave in a cold war, they have a
00:52:09
lot of experience. oh, and in pandan, our
00:52:12
viewer of Anastasia from Poland
00:52:14
asks about the likelihood of
00:52:16
Putin’s attack on this country, she says that the local
00:52:20
Inform space is filled with
00:52:22
discussions of this probability. Some
00:52:24
say that it definitely won’t happen, but there are those
00:52:26
who say that it will, but in a year and a
00:52:29
half or two, Anastasia asks you to evaluate
00:52:33
the likelihood of such a
00:52:36
conflict Well,
00:52:38
unfortunately, from the moment when Putin
00:52:41
came to power in Russia, the only
00:52:44
working formula is the formula
00:52:46
Never say
00:52:47
never, that is, things that seem
00:52:51
unthinkable to us are completely
00:52:53
irrational. After some time, they
00:52:56
are formed
00:52:58
into practical plans, that is, at the
00:53:01
moment here and now there are
00:53:04
no prerequisites for an attack on Poland,
00:53:07
that is, if the question of an
00:53:09
attack on Poland, some
00:53:12
other Baltic countries is a question, let’s say
00:53:15
there for the next few months. But
00:53:18
obviously there is no further situation, it can
00:53:21
go in three directions, in principle, not
00:53:27
in Russia right now apart from war, this is the time.
00:53:31
That is, as soon as they now try to
00:53:33
abandon the war, they will be faced with a
00:53:35
heap of social problems, an increase in
00:53:37
internal tension, essentially the threat of
00:53:40
plunging into such a serious civil
00:53:43
war, that is, they will have to sooner or
00:53:45
later return to the idea of ​​war again and
00:53:47
again as something that the splat of
00:53:55
society is psychologically dependent on
00:53:58
this sect. Well, the most striking
00:54:02
spokesman there is Dugin
00:54:04
Prokhanov Malofeev and all the rest, this is an
00:54:07
absolutely religious and philosophical
00:54:10
movement of
00:54:13
sectarians with a philosophy and ideology
00:54:17
reminiscent of
00:54:19
Christ Marie in reality, these
00:54:21
suicidal
00:54:23
sects are predictable to what extent
00:54:27
right Eli will fall Step by step, it is
00:54:32
very difficult for me to understand these suicidal philosophies,
00:54:35
but I do not exclude that it is possible, that
00:54:37
is, at some stage at some stage the
00:54:40
question may arise that
00:54:43
the only way to save the regime is to
00:54:46
get involved in a gigantic catastrophic
00:54:49
suicide
00:54:51
war,
00:54:57
what are they just threatening? Well, if
00:55:00
Ukraine, let’s say, the deadline will really expire.
00:55:02
But then, well, will France
00:55:06
fit in with
00:55:08
Poland?
00:55:10
Well, it’s like a dinosaur girl,
00:55:13
maybe it’s spelled, maybe not, so they
00:55:16
will try, if
00:55:18
possible, to taste it,
00:55:25
there’s mo Wow regime that He
00:55:29
will try to do something like that, it’s
00:55:34
impossible for dessert, I left a couple of topics,
00:55:37
I suggest you allocate literally 2 minutes for
00:55:39
each
00:55:40
I sent you a
00:55:44
post from Alexander Plyushchev this morning, which concerns the
00:55:47
sensational film of the Anti-
00:55:50
Corruption Foundation, but not the one about
00:55:53
the nineties And that which about the family I will
00:55:56
remind our viewers and listeners
00:55:59
who are probably aware of history. In
00:56:00
general, the background of the fight against corruption has learned that the
00:56:03
children of the mayor of Orsk, Mr. Kazoo, live
00:56:07
somewhere in the Middle East in some
00:56:09
kind of rich oil country, they don’t
00:56:12
particularly worry about the floods there
00:56:14
Beth Orenburg and so on and so forth
00:56:16
Well, in general, a typical picture is
00:56:17
drawn. Yes, it means that the local KZK sent
00:56:21
his children, his family
00:56:23
to resort towns and tried to enjoy
00:56:27
life there. But Plyushchev, our colleague
00:56:29
found out that it seems that the Son of the Kazoo is quite an
00:56:34
independent person who is not only
00:56:36
like I would have
00:56:39
worked in oil all my life, graduated from the Faculty of Geography,
00:56:42
apparently was a decent specialist and
00:56:45
got a job in the huge
00:56:56
Sado Aravi, I don’t remember exactly now Well,
00:56:59
in general, somewhere somewhere, your
00:57:02
attitude to this story To the consequences
00:57:05
and to the actual
00:57:07
investigation itself about the family Governor of
00:57:11
Orsk Well, I don’t have anything to do with the investigation itself
00:57:15
Because I didn’t delve into it, I just
00:57:19
looked at it, but it’s such an interesting
00:57:22
fact
00:57:24
[music] that
00:57:25
’s why I don’t even know what to say. But
00:57:28
in relation to how the VBK treats
00:57:31
working with information, well, you can say
00:57:33
the first thing is that this is an absolutely standard
00:57:36
practice of the WBK,
00:57:38
they are actually talking about Propaganda and
00:57:41
not about investigation, and they
00:57:43
actually didn’t fit in anywhere that they
00:57:45
are a mass media
00:57:47
that is obliged to comply with the standard of
00:57:50
objectively professionally honest
00:57:52
journalism, this is not about them, a
00:57:56
political machine of goodness. Well, what is
00:58:01
goodness everyone understands in its own way,
00:58:03
which is busy Not with investigation, but
00:58:06
with propaganda, investigation is for
00:58:08
them a format of propaganda,
00:58:11
they are absolutely cool. The guys in
00:58:15
terms of the ability to obtain
00:58:18
information
00:58:20
and in this
00:58:23
sense, in the ability to pump it out from a
00:58:27
variety of sources, use leaks
00:58:30
Well, they have almost no equal But then they continue to
00:58:34
work the most
00:58:36
interesting part of the investigation begins, that
00:58:38
is, for the general public it seems that
00:58:42
the investigation ends when the
00:58:46
information was leaked to you; in reality, the
00:58:48
investigation is just beginning at this moment.
00:58:49
Because you begin to check this
00:58:52
information, firstly, check the technical characteristics, and
00:58:56
compare it with other versions. In
00:59:00
general, this colossal work
00:59:02
which, well, I can say that for
00:59:06
me there are two teams and they are interconnected
00:59:09
with each other and
00:59:11
are
00:59:12
indicators of compliance with always the
00:59:14
highest standards. I mean, if
00:59:17
we are talking about Russia, the race of journalism
00:59:20
is a traditional team of a new newspaper, that
00:59:23
is, it is also a created sneeze,
00:59:27
actually working under the leadership of
00:59:30
Serge Sokolov and this is a separate team that emerged from this lodgment of
00:59:33
important stories of
00:59:36
the novel by Anin, who, from my point of view,
00:59:38
is an incredibly scrupulous and very
00:59:41
careful person, and therefore for
00:59:44
these teams, the moment of receiving
00:59:46
information before the material is released usually
00:59:50
takes Well a month if not a year Because
00:59:53
it’s
00:59:55
very important that you check all the time
00:59:57
whether what you see
00:59:59
really means what you think, this is the
01:00:01
biggest
01:00:03
problem of ubk, otherwise it is in the morning in the
01:00:08
newspaper in the evening in the verse and,
01:00:10
accordingly, there is no
01:00:13
serious processing of information here and there cannot be,
01:00:15
because the result is what they are doing
01:00:17
this for they want to use the information
01:00:18
in advance for Propaganda and that’s why they
01:00:21
cut corners very EASILY so what’s with it is natural
01:00:26
for me. Logical I don’t see
01:00:28
anything new in this, this is normal
01:00:31
practice when FBK cut
01:00:35
corners to order. That is, if they need
01:00:38
it to look like this then they won’t
01:00:41
particularly print with the fact that there may be
01:00:43
15 other versions
01:00:51
being interpreted right now in
01:00:54
Yekaterinburg there is a meeting between
01:00:56
Ekaterina and her supporters. Well, the meeting
01:01:00
was actually disrupted by representatives of
01:01:02
the police, security forces are checking for
01:01:04
signs of extremism, checking everyone’s
01:01:07
passport documents Don Sola said that the
01:01:10
meeting will definitely continue as
01:01:12
soon as the police are convinced that there is no
01:01:16
threat to them in general, with
01:01:20
such, of course, a little irony,
01:01:22
sarcasm, but to comment on the actions
01:01:26
of the security forces and why is this necessary, strictly
01:01:29
speaking, Or can the system no longer
01:01:31
become the system, the elections ended before they did
01:01:34
n’t allow any there's a type of
01:01:36
danger there She clearly doesn't doesn't look like an
01:01:39
extremist Doesn't look like,
01:01:41
well, you never
01:01:44
know what size the mushrooms will grow in
01:01:46
the area What if they
01:01:50
grow up from Chernobyl
01:01:52
Suri, in
01:01:55
general, they seem to be going about their
01:01:58
usual business, mowing the lawn, but for
01:02:01
some reason they need to, but that's another question in general, I’m
01:02:03
not very interested in this because
01:02:05
instinctively it seems to me that the PKO is due
01:02:08
to evolution due to
01:02:11
some specific
01:02:13
situation created by this pseudo election
01:02:16
campaign that we had. I will be
01:02:18
very glad if I’m wrong, it turns out that I
01:02:20
misunderstood you. Thank you very much, Vadimir
01:02:24
Borisovich We seem to have managed to discuss everything about the
01:02:27
main topics Thank you friends for being
01:02:29
with us don’t leave without liking without subscribing
01:02:32
without commenting this is all very important and
01:02:34
useful Vadim Borevich Glad to see you in the
01:02:37
usual duty interiors it’s good that
01:02:39
you will return I’ve finally become closer to the events
01:02:41
the signal reaches faster Yes and the pulse of
01:02:45
the event is also felt It seems to me more
01:02:47
brightly and clearly See you in a week
01:02:49
Thank you very much See you
01:02:51
All the best Thank you
01:02:54
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Палата представителей Конгресса США наконец одобрила пакет военной помощи Украине на сумму более 60 миллиардов долларов. Законопроект, застрявший в нижней палате американского парламента с осени прошлого года, наконец принят — теперь его должен одобрить Сенат, а после этого он поступит на подпись к президенту страны Джо Байдену. Президент Украины Владимир Зеленский уже поблагодарил американских конгрессменов. Как долгожданная помощь изменит расстановку сил в войне Украины против армии Путина? Политолог Владимир Пастухов и журналист Дмитрий Еловский обсуждают эту и другие главные новости недели в программе «Чисто конкретная политика». И, как всегда, отвечают на вопросы зрителей. Смотрите «Чисто конкретную политику» каждое воскресенье в 15-00 по Москве, Киеву и Вильнюсу на @khodorkovskylive и не забывайте подписываться на канал, чтобы получать больше объективной информации о происходящем в России. Таймкоды: 00:00 Начало 00:35 США одобрили помощь Украине на $61 млрд. Что дальше? 05:44 Почему Трамп пошел на попятную 08:05 Сколько из 61 миллиарда дойдет до Украины 17:06 Что испортилось в отношениях Украины и США. Версии 24:20 Россию оказалось невозможно изолировать 29:49 Украина воюет с Путиным на последние деньги? 33:25 Пойдет ли Россия в наступление? 42:02 «Кому в мавзолей, кому в библиотеку». Форточка возможностей для Путина 49:25 Мир взял курс на возвращение к холодной войне 52:11 Нападет ли Путин на Польшу 55:35 Плющев и расследование ФБК о мэре Орска 1:00:50 Полиция сорвала встречу Дунцовой с избирателями Ютуб-канал «Пастуховская Кухня»: @pastukhov_kitchen Телеграм-канал Владимира Пастухова: https://t.me/v_pastukhov Телеграм-канал Дмитрия Еловского: https://t.me/delovsky СМОТРИТЕ ТАКЖЕ НА ХОДОРКОВСКИЙ LIVE ⚡️НОВОСТИ | КОРАБЛЬ РФ АТАКОВАН РАКЕТОЙ | США ОДОБРИЛИ ПОМОЩЬ УКРАИНЕ | НАВОДНЕНИЕ ПОД ТЮМЕНЬЮ https://youtu.be/yTqVlQgIJXA БЫКОВ: Символ РФ — Пугачева. Прислуга Путина Памфилова. Мелкий палач Симоньян. Садист из Росгвардии. Ивлеева и Хинштейн. Гоголь придумал Украину https://youtu.be/tiEKl9bznlY ХОДОРКОВСКИЙ и ПАСТУХОВ: Наводнение как проверка власти. Мобилизация? После смерти Путина полыхнет https://youtu.be/3G89MY-tNLU ШЕНДЕРОВИЧ: Фейковый Шойгу. Менты и полиция. Путин и народные вилы. Пугачева. Чардаш под Оренбургом https://youtu.be/tvaQYcZ_pOY ОРЕШКИН: Цена потопа – день войны. Шойгу vs экс-охранник Путина. Казахстан побеждает Россию https://youtu.be/Xr2zhgr_sJI АСЛАНЯН: Россияне заплатят по долгам АвтоВАЗа. ГАИ проболталась. Citroen вернулся в Россию https://youtu.be/ChwKdIlNeOI Нина ХРУЩЕВА: У Путина большие проблемы. Почему ИГИЛ устроил теракт в «Крокусе». Как Крым отошел Украине https://youtu.be/9qM8Hr0r2gw НЕМЦОВ: От преемника Ельцина — до врага Путина. Предсказание о войне с Украиной. Сахаров, Тэтчер https://youtu.be/AmUYMuAqvcI Шахерезада Кабаева. Наложница Путина, но не первая леди. Тело государственной важности / КЛИНИКА https://youtu.be/ZEhQ9-0n4d8 АСЛАНЯН: Теракт в «Крокусе»: как к нему готовились. Оружие и снаряжение. Анализ https://youtu.be/eN2iWA73jUo НЕВЗОРОВ: Кому выгоден теракт в «Крокусе»? Только Кремлю. Жизни людей — для Путина пустяк https://youtu.be/7nuA3OfO4lM ЛЕВА БИ-2: Тюрьма в Таиланде. Не сойти с ума. Впереди гражданская война. Путин. Земфира, БГ, Брат-2 https://youtu.be/paSWT7njeDI Блог Михаила Ходорковского: https://www.youtube.com/user/khodorkovskyru #США #война #Россия

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