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Fursa and I should have had Vitaly Sych with me,

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but we sent him on a special assignment, and that's why

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today I myself will be blown

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away by it again, and I

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will hope that the flooded

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streets of Kyiv and wet feet will allow my

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throat to speak to the end. This is, of course, a

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paradoxical story that For

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motorists, Kyiv is already a normal city, but

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for pedestrians it's hide in the rye, as

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soon as it snows, there are two states or

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so you can turn around, or it's so

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wet that it's simply impossible to get to the office from the subway with

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dry feet, so let's

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start, I remind you again What

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if you hear us? If you listen to us,

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you and there is resistance from the boys and girls who are

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on the front lines, who really and of course bear

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the biggest burden of this war

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to a small village in Transcarpathia or a

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small apartment in Lisbon where you

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just hold your grandmother's hand so

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that she I didn't go crazy in

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this new, new, terrible

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world for us, although the world is both beautiful and terrible at the same time,

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so let's start and

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start with positive news, in fact,

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lately we have been constantly saying that this is an

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emotional swing, an emotional fall,

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everyone complains too much and that we

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simply have to endure A certain moment and

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wait for positive news And actually we

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came to the moment when this positive

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news began to arrive in general, in

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general, such an interesting story that We

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heard a lot before the war, the beginning of the war, the west is

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merging Ukraine, Ukraine does not

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need the west. This was very often inspired by

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Russian propaganda, but a lot of

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people from these narratives are carried around like a

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fool with a written bag. And actually it

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was very easy for such people to believe that all

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support has ended, they will not accept us in the

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EU, they will not give us money, they will not give us

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military aid, so hide Again,

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hide in the rye again, people were ready for that,

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they perceived the West not for as our

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friends, not as allies, and as someone who

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can quit at any moment, and when

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certain technical problems arose, these people

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found confirmation of their opinion. Well,

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now is the time to quit, but

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actually, first of all, we have to

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talk about the great Ukrainian a victory

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that was rather unexpected actually happened

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this week is that we started the process of

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joining

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because why unexpectedly because we knew

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Orbán's proposal the proposal of the leader of

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Hungary all these of our favorite thistle

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in the ass and many observers many

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insiders said this opinion Well good 50

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billion taka financial assistance

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will vote, but with accession, with the

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beginning of accession to the EU, with the beginning of the

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procedure for launching this procedure, there may

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be problems. Because there it is difficult to

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somehow break Orbán. Well, actually, that is all these

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last days, hours, weeks, trade was

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fierce. Hungarian trade, in fact,

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how Orban trades, I think you

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have to envy the conditional Erdoğan, that's why

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all these Eastern bazaars, Turkish bazaars, are

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nothing compared to the Hungarian bazaar, and

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it looked like he stood

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his ground, and it was generally interesting. does

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he support or not support the

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allocation of funds or joining the EU, and

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at the last moment something was agreed upon

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here in Ukraine, for some reason many people

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accused Macron Scholz of the fact

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that they are messing with Orban, that they are

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trying to come to an agreement, but well, good people,

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what choice is there, there is no choice.

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to negotiate with him, and that's why we are now

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very grateful and happy

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that both Orban and

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Macron became super pro-Ukrainian after

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the start of the war, not Orban, I'm sorry, but again,

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then you'll blame me for how

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I confused Yakutia with Buryatia, Scholze and

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Macron, do you remember the former

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German ambassador Ukrainians in Germany called

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Orban some kind of sausage,

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and it turned out that it was not that kind of sausage,

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it was a normal, normal piece of

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German meat that just had to be

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oriented, they admitted their mistakes. The

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mistakes that they tried to reach an

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agreement with Putin were also probably

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quite unpleasant for them that

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Putin abandoned them, that they were wrong. And now

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Scholtz is one of the biggest friends of

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Ukraine in Europe and the biggest lobbyist,

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and it is very useful, because the European Union itself

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is Germany, and Germany plays a

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leading role in the European Union, and we

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now see news about the increase

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help from Germany and recently it

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became known

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that another patriot complex has finally arrived

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Well, it should arrive and I wonder if

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yesterday there were some wild dances with

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daggers from the Russians, it was a

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story about a new patriot or what it

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was about Because it was quite difficult to understand that

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it was so, Scholz and Macron became

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our biggest lobbyists and people

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who themselves believed or at least

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politically demonstrated that Ukraine's place

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in the EU is very important, and that's why they

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met, tortured that Orban,

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traded, of course, Orban has such a

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plus, he's a bastard, but he the bastard is not

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ideological, but he is about money. Yes,

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you always understand how to negotiate with such people. Yes, it is

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necessary to bargain. And actually, he was

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bargained, bargained,

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bargained, and in fact he turned out to be

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like that yesterday, when Orban did not block

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our EU membership at the same time in Kyiv and

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in Moscow could say that he is

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some kind of cheap [ __ ], but the truth is that he is a

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very expensive [ __ ]. Yes, because once you go out

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for coffee, one coffee with him or without him is

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10 billion euros, that's how much Orban

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has now traded with 30 billion euros

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frozen by the European Union, this is money

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that should have been received by

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Hungary within the framework of the European

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Union programs, but since

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Orban is a huge corruptor and

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at the same time destroys the rule of

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law in Hungary, it was frozen. On the

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one hand, they adopted some kind of

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judicial reform, they fixed something

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in the judicial system of Hungary, and this gave

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the possibility of allocating 10 billion euros to Orban,

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well, the actual allocation was the

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result of bidding for accession for this

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one vote Orban received 10 billion,

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well, from the vote, we already know the story

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Yes, he came out again, it was not

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impromptu, it was an agreement with Orban,

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Orban and Scholz Orban and a larger group

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say that there Rutte from the Netherlands

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took an active part in all the

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agreements, they

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met with Orban before this meeting before global history,

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convinced him and at the right moment

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scholz said Yes you go pop Drink coffee

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if you are against Orban said Come on I

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'll take it and go. He left, everything was

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voted on and the story

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of unanimity was preserved, therefore 10 billion euros for

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this exit, well, again,

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Orbán knows how to bargain, we can see it, maybe he

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still plays poker well, this does not change the

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attitude towards him, and it's so interesting here what

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they write in the comments, I see there, maybe

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Orban cares about his country, listen, when a

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person cares about his country, he does not

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turn the development of Ukraine into a corruption

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cesspool and does not destroy the rule of law, when

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this happens, it is always about

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corruption, and it is actually the interest of the leader himself,

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not the interest of the country itself. Of course, it

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must be sold to the people, and the people

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are being sold the idea that we are sovereign, we are

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independent, and so on. And so on. And so on. the

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general Austro-Hungarian method now is

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for them to get up and leave, so the

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imperial metastases manifest themselves in different ways.

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Yesterday,

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one more story was voted on. The story

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about the 12th package of sanctions was voted on. Finally, it was

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softened a little there, but one way or another it was

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accepted and Austria was against it.

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Why was Austria opposed to

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Raiffeisenbank?

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Raiffeisenbank operates in Ukraine and it

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was included in the list of sponsors of

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the war there. This list is basically a big

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problem because it causes us some

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problems on the external background and

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there are no advantages. Well, that is,

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some company is included there does not in any way

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affect the activities of this company in

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Ukraine. It does not affect the behavior of this

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company somewhere else, but it creates

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problems, so the NSC probably needs to

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revise this whole idea a little,

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so the Austrians did not want to vote for the

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12th package of sanctions.

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got up and left without him,

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they voted, they started running to the

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toilet, and Austria was elected for money, just

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for principles, well, what kind of

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principles, so yesterday was a big day, and I

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want to remind you once again that it is very, very,

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very important that it was voted for

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and this is an unexpected surprise because it was believed

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that there should be a substitute. Yes, the Hungarians there

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said that we can

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block Ukraine's entry into the EU 70 more times, where did

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the figure come from, 70 of which appeared, then there

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will be 35 chapters that Ukraine needs to join

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in order to join, and first,

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of course, we have to vote the opening of

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this chapter and then

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the closing And this is exactly what

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Hungary is talking about, well, it means that

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they will trade many, many,

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many more times, but this path has been started, it is very

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important that we and Moldova have started this

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path and Moldova is quietly

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waiting for all these things as with the war, so

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now

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Moldova is behaving completely naturally, actually it is difficult to blame people for

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this, they are behaving

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so naturally, but they are so much that they are

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now traveling in a trailer.

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the important next step is to

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get a

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negotiating framework, this will definitely happen in March,

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Hungary will also negotiate, of course.

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Come on, it's

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not ideal, but it's the best that

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works. What wasn't voted yesterday,

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50 billion aid to

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Ukraine Ra facility, the so-called aid to Ukraine for four

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years

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is bad. Orban blocked it, he

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wants another 20 billion for it, he said so at least

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now the

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commercial stage, but with these 50 billion in

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financial assistance, it is much

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easier because there is a Plan B. How can it be

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circumvented?

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after all, this is additional work, many, many

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additional working days, no one

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wants it, that is why they will try to trade with

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Orban and now they are talking about the fact that this

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facility can be voted on somewhere

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in January, well, it is actually quite fast, and

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if it is voted on, then the

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Ukrainian budget will be special there it's not about the

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Ukrainian economy, first of all it's about the

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budget, it won't feel these special

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problems. That is, there is Plan B, one way or another,

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Ukraine receives support from Europe.

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The question is whether Plan A is a

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four-year facility or a one-year

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aid program. Of course, we are better off by 4

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years ago There was no question here and today there was a

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statement from the Belgian

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Prime Minister that there is progress there and

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most likely in the nearest Well before

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Christmas No They won't have time now they are all

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going on vacation such big

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bureaucratic vacations in principle now the

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whole the western world, this is the last week of

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full-time work of the western world, and the

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next week the holidays start, and

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so do the Europeans, but it

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will start in January, and one way or another we

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will receive European aid, so the

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main thing was to pass this moment, the beginning

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of the negotiations, we passed it, I really

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congratulate you This is a huge achievement this

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achievement was primarily made possible thanks to the

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heroism of the armed forces of Ukraine of ordinary

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Ukrainians. That is why it is the impulse of

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European integration that was

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actually started additionally by Ukraine, that

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impulse appeared after the invasion, when the

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Europeans saw Ukraine. Ukraine that will

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defend itself is not a fa State, but a

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real country. society and

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this is a great merit of those boys and girls of

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the armed forces and volunteers and all those who

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held this front and continue to

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hold it, therefore this is a great victory there will be

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many years, you know. Once upon a time, I don't

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know how many years will pass 5 7 10 someday

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the flag of when

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will it mean that we have entered the country? Finally,

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that moment has come, again, I don't know

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when it will be, it will be for sure. Yes, I don't know how many

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years will pass. And at that moment, when

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I don't know which politician will then

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lead Ukraine, and he will

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make certain pathetic statements

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pathetic speeches are important, but the main thing in this

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speech will be for him to remember that politicians have

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certainly done a lot, they do a lot without

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question, there is a lot of bureaucratic work, and

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for the parliament and for lobbying and for the government,

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they are doing something, but it is important in the

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moment that will come, but now we are so

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half-raised this flag is what we should remember

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thanks to why and to whom

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European integration is taking place at such a pace And

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when it will happen I also hope that

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the politician who will pronounce this

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conditionally in 10 years will remember at

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what price this European

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integration was paid and All politicians until that

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moment will to understand at what cost it was

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possible And that it is simply impossible to screw it up, yes,

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it cannot be done, that's why

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this is the first huge big news that

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happened, which should cool the dust of those who

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say that Europe is betraying us. And by the way,

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give a signal, including to Putin and

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companies that think that they will be able to

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sit out the west and that the help of the west

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will run out, look, we are moving the

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further we go, the closer we are to integration into all

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western structures, and this every step

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makes the scenario that

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sooner or later someone somewhere will get tired,

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so this week the president of Ukraine

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was returning from the United States

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via

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Oslo it seems that it happened and where the

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Scandinavian countries sat down and we

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received additional aid and we are talking

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about financial aid and military

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aid, that is, Europe, integrating Ukraine,

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understands why it is responsible and this is

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another signal to Putin.

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this is

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Putin's only chance, because war is always a

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confrontation, including economies, and

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when we talk about the confrontation

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of economies, since the beginning of the war, Ukraine

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and Russia have spent approximately the

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same amount on the war, but for this Russia

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had to overexert itself and completely

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transfer its financial the system into

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martial law when there is half of the

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budget, such a thing has never happened since the time of the

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Soviet Union, even late, and it goes

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to war, and the West almost did not feel that

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funding, but it is not really felt

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so incomparable economic forces, the

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economic

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opportunities of the

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Western world and Russia itself, and

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therefore Russia's only chance that they

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will overstay yes And this is another signal no

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Putin you won't overstay you can pour

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your friend there any plans to

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take over Ukraine there in five or six years

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it doesn't matter how many years it will not

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be possible because Europe itself is not

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will turn away and the States will not turn their backs on

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Ukraine. Well, the second part of this week

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is about the help where we expect, we are waiting. This is

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help from the states, military aid is

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the most important, because actually as much as

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the States help militarily, no one else

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can help, because the military budget of the

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United States is more than all of them

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together financial aid is also included,

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and here we must state that

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Zelenskyi's visit to the states turned out to be very, very important,

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of course he did not convince anyone there of anything, it would be

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very difficult to convince anyone of anything,

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because we must understand that

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Zelenskyi cannot convince the

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Democrats or Republicans there the question of

00:17:27

migration, because it is a very important American

00:17:29

history, a very important American

00:17:31

problem, it is necessary to understand that

00:17:34

Vitalik and I have already talked about it here several times, I would like

00:17:36

to remind you that now the American voter is

00:17:38

concerned about two questions, the first is inflation, and the

00:17:42

second is migration, because there is a

00:17:44

real migration crisis, so solve

00:17:46

this problem This is fundamentally important, and here no

00:17:48

negotiations with Zelenskyy will

00:17:50

erase anything, but what happened, apparently,

00:17:53

Zelenskyi's visit gave an impulse, the impulse to

00:17:57

speed up these negotiations

00:17:59

is emotional.

00:18:08

negotiations and the

00:18:10

Republicans and Democrats began to come closer to a certain

00:18:13

solution to the problem, they have not yet come closer,

00:18:15

but they definitely began to work on it quickly,

00:18:18

faster than

00:18:21

before, and here the

00:18:25

actual flag can really be put

00:18:29

on this ground Zelensky, because it was his

00:18:31

visit that caused this story, the Democrats

00:18:33

went to the meeting quite significantly, and here is

00:18:36

such a paradox that in fact they

00:18:39

themselves probably realized that it helps them before

00:18:41

this, this flag of migration was with the

00:18:43

republicans who waved and said that

00:18:46

now we will win the elections because of this, the

00:18:49

democrats looked at it really is a problem, a

00:18:50

problem, including for their voters,

00:18:52

for their potential voter And they decided to

00:18:54

take this as their banner and actively

00:18:57

joined this work there is such a

00:18:59

paradox that someone says, Do this, it will

00:19:02

make Biden less popular in the left-wing

00:19:06

radical circles, which are present in him, which are the

00:19:08

extreme left, which are against

00:19:10

any restrictions on migration, against

00:19:12

any what, yes, who support the

00:19:15

Palestinian axis 100% and so on, but the

00:19:19

paradox is that Well, here is a logical

00:19:21

question and that I will stop

00:19:23

supporting Biden. And who will they

00:19:25

support Trump? Well, no, these people

00:19:28

will not support Trump. So,

00:19:29

Biden, they realized that they they

00:19:31

have nothing to lose and they can fight for a

00:19:33

swinging voter, once again

00:19:35

we remember the electoral system of the United

00:19:38

States, swing states, key states, because again,

00:19:41

these people who can be

00:19:43

disappointed in Biden and the Democrats, that

00:19:45

they will go there to meet the Democrats, these

00:19:47

people mostly live somewhere there in

00:19:49

California or in New York, and from their

00:19:51

votes, in fact, everyone knows that

00:19:53

California will be

00:19:55

for the

00:19:57

Democrats, New York will be for the Democrats. Okay, so it

00:20:02

doesn’t matter, and this acceleration

00:20:06

can be very beneficial, including for the

00:20:08

Biden and Democrat administrations, so

00:20:11

very they were very tense and in fact

00:20:13

Zelensky turned out to be the person

00:20:15

who stole Christmas from the American

00:20:17

senators. Christmas vacation, at least

00:20:20

you remember this cartoon or the cartoon movie

00:20:22

The Grinch who stole Christmas. There

00:20:24

was such a little Green Man. There was a small Green

00:20:26

nasty little man. Now there is

00:20:28

Zelensky who came and gave impetus to these

00:20:32

negotiations. And now we see the news that

00:20:34

the senate continues its work for next

00:20:36

week, next week they should

00:20:38

rest, it's generally a holiday in the

00:20:41

United States, the week before Christmas

00:20:43

they rest and work, you know

00:20:46

how Ukrainian majoritarians work in the

00:20:48

districts, so they should work in the

00:20:50

districts, well in mostly sunny districts,

00:20:53

maybe someone is there, there is a snowball, aspen,

00:20:57

Colorado, there are beautiful mountains, everything is very

00:21:00

beautiful, but no, judging by

00:21:03

this, they will have to work for it. They really

00:21:06

want to agree now.

00:21:10

on

00:21:13

the decision to vote for the aid of

00:21:14

Ukraine and this we also have to understand that

00:21:17

this is already very important This is our problem for

00:21:20

us it is the navel of the earth for the states it is not and the

00:21:22

fact that their grandfathers and mostly who occupy a

00:21:26

seat there in the senate agrees to

00:21:29

sacrifice part of their vacations is

00:21:31

already big Yes, now you tell me the

00:21:34

victims of Ukrainians are much less, but

00:21:36

let's be honest, this is our problem and

00:21:40

our victim,

00:21:41

and when they bombed Syria, so to speak,

00:21:45

well, we were worried about this, but not for

00:21:47

very long, the truth is, yes, and it is unlikely that we

00:21:52

sacrificed anything there in Aleppo there would be something

00:21:55

significant that is important for us, that's why this is

00:21:58

the impetus, and now there is great hope

00:22:00

that the Republicans and Democrats

00:22:03

can come to an agreement, again, there

00:22:05

will be no tragedy. the

00:22:09

desire to abandon Ukraine,

00:22:12

this is important, there is support, there is political

00:22:15

will, those things when someone mentions

00:22:17

Afghanistan or Vietnam, there was political

00:22:19

will to leave and forget, such a thing does not

00:22:22

exist now, starting from the conversations of the

00:22:25

Republicans themselves about the fact that investment in

00:22:27

Ukraine is really an investment or if

00:22:29

Putin captured Ukraine, the

00:22:30

American spending on support for his

00:22:32

contingent and on support for the containment of

00:22:35

Russia already within the borders of the NATO country would be

00:22:37

much more important, even to the point that

00:22:40

the defeat of Ukraine will now be the defeat of

00:22:42

Biden himself, the Democrats themselves, and the

00:22:44

United States itself. Therefore, no one

00:22:46

is going to abandon anyone because more,

00:22:47

again, the price of the issue is negligible for the United

00:22:50

States, this is

00:22:51

what we are saying that when it comes to

00:22:55

economic spending, it is

00:22:57

overstretching Russia, which

00:22:59

is overstretching now, it is not the United States that

00:23:01

is overstretching, but the latest example

00:23:03

happened today in Russia, and the central

00:23:07

bank of Russia raised the interest rate to 16% . here

00:23:09

again is a beautiful story that yesterday the

00:23:11

Ukrainian central bank, the

00:23:12

National Bank, lowered the interest

00:23:14

rate from 16 to 15%. and the next day the

00:23:18

Russian Central Bank raised the discount

00:23:20

rate, i.e. the value of money in the economy

00:23:22

from 15 to 16, symbolizing the actual

00:23:25

growth of problems in the economy.

00:23:35

for Russians,

00:23:37

inflation in the Russian economy is now

00:23:40

7.5%, this is Ukraine's latest figure of

00:23:44

5.1%. i.e. now, for the first time in

00:23:47

many, many, many years, inflation in

00:23:49

Russia is higher than inflation in Ukraine, this has

00:23:52

not happened for a very long time. And actually the trajectory of

00:23:54

this Russian inflation is on

00:23:56

the rise, we now see a lot of memes

00:23:58

there about Russian prices for eggs in Russia,

00:24:00

yes, they are not for relatively there are Americans

00:24:03

or Ukrainians, they simply plus or minus

00:24:05

reached the level we had, but the

00:24:07

question of Dina's dynamics, that is, the prices of eggs

00:24:10

have risen sharply, and this caused a very

00:24:12

strong reaction, and this strong reaction is more

00:24:15

important than the prices of eggs themselves.

00:24:17

many

00:24:19

politicians talk about it in Russian,

00:24:22

which means that this is a topic that worries about what

00:24:25

I am saying that there are queues to throw eggs, yes, in the

00:24:27

Soviet Union there is a queue of people

00:24:30

there for two hours in the cold to buy those eggs,

00:24:32

well, people who live well

00:24:35

will not stand in this is in this queue. Let them

00:24:39

not be. This is actually an illustration of the fact

00:24:43

that the Russian economy in Russia,

00:24:45

no matter what they say to the outside, is overstretched, and

00:24:47

therefore for the Western economy, which does

00:24:49

not feel the

00:24:50

financial burden of this war at all,

00:24:54

to connect a little more and transmit would

00:24:57

not be about the problems. in reality, it

00:24:59

was not a problem and by and large

00:25:01

I think that now when we talk

00:25:02

about

00:25:03

the strategy that Ukraine should go into

00:25:05

strategic defense, we are talking

00:25:08

about this scenario of pressing not on the front where

00:25:12

we saw that it is not so easy to

00:25:13

hand over Russia on the front that it is militarily

00:25:16

under defense is stronger than economically

00:25:20

under defense and maybe the strategies in the White

00:25:23

House decided that well, look, if we

00:25:25

militarily it is really too difficult to

00:25:27

break through the fortifications, then let

00:25:29

Ukraine go on strategic defense and the

00:25:31

pressure on the economy of Russia will do the

00:25:33

work that the Ukrainian military should do,

00:25:35

it looks like as one of

00:25:38

the options Yes, it is not the only option, and maybe that is

00:25:41

not how they decided. I don't know, but

00:25:43

it looks like it can happen, so it was a

00:25:48

very busy week, and actually a

00:25:52

very positive week, starting with the fact

00:25:55

that on Monday the fields were unblocked there,

00:25:57

which is the largest pedestrian crossing And

00:25:59

now there Tusk and Zelenskyi confess their love to each other

00:26:02

on

00:26:03

Twitter, Macron joins in by the way and

00:26:06

says that

00:26:07

he will never sing something from the

00:26:11

Liverpool fans' song Will

00:26:14

Never Al, something like that Wow, this is now making

00:26:18

Putin angry about what is making Putin angry, he

00:26:21

points out how he was yesterday Al

00:26:24

said disdainfully, "Oh, Makron doesn't call me, and that's

00:26:27

not very good, you want to know, it reminds me of a

00:26:29

person who was in a relationship and talks about

00:26:31

his ex, he doesn't want to call me, well,

00:26:33

let him be worse, yes, this means that this

00:26:36

person is just waiting for a call and thinks why the hell

00:26:37

Well, he doesn't call me,

00:26:40

here's a story like this, that is,

00:26:43

in fact, we actually had a positive

00:26:45

week despite all the dumnglum that

00:26:48

exists. Now, this week turned out to be

00:26:50

positive and we expect that this positive

00:26:53

will be developed, developed primarily by the

00:26:56

Americans this year, because the Europeans will

00:26:58

no longer agree this year Well,

00:27:01

then in January we will expect something from the

00:27:03

Americans

00:27:06

from the Europeans Sorry, Otto, when

00:27:08

Sych is not there, I am talking, Sych is to blame, Nini,

00:27:12

I am to blame.

00:27:20

now it turned out that

00:27:23

the Russians took responsibility for this blow, of course, we

00:27:26

said last time on the air that, well,

00:27:28

the Russians are probably someone else, and there

00:27:31

is a group of solnsepoks among them that is close

00:27:34

to the Russian GUR, and these people said that

00:27:37

they were the ones who took revenge Kyivstar Because somehow

00:27:40

he does the blow was strong, but as

00:27:44

we can see, Kyivstar is gradually

00:27:46

recovering And of course you know how to protect yourself, sometimes

00:27:50

they say that Kyivstar allowed

00:27:52

such a thing Listen, well, it is impossible to protect yourself completely

00:27:55

from a hacker attack, it is

00:28:00

simply impossible, and even here As the head of

00:28:03

Kyivstar says that because of some employee

00:28:06

Well of course they will try through the

00:28:08

weakest chain, and it doesn't

00:28:10

have to be a mole, yes, it could just be a

00:28:13

person who wasn't very blunt, yes, they

00:28:17

pressed something, they crawled through it and it started, that

00:28:19

's why the blow was strong, together there, it's interesting to

00:28:23

recover from this fall,

00:28:26

Kyivstaro is helped by the SBU, you know, you all

00:28:28

regret that the SBU listens that all the

00:28:30

records are there somewhere So

00:28:32

you see the SBU not only listens She

00:28:36

cares about you, that is, if all the

00:28:38

backups of all conversations were somewhere of everything that

00:28:41

was on the SBU See how quickly it

00:28:44

helps to restore, let's say

00:28:46

Thank you to the Security Service of Ukraine, which is so

00:28:48

interested in the fact that we are there What do we do What do

00:28:51

we write to whom And what do we talk about pluses I

00:28:54

always said that if someone

00:28:55

eavesdrops on me it is the problem of the person who is

00:28:57

eavesdropping or spying yes What she will

00:28:59

see Well, well, I don't care, yes, and

00:29:04

this person has to live with this, yes. What will she

00:29:06

listen to, what will she do? will see, together

00:29:09

with the SBU, somehow Kyivstar is gradually recovering

00:29:12

and has almost already recovered, and in this

00:29:14

story with Kyivstar I was once again pissed off,

00:29:17

you know, I really don't like conspiracy theories, yes, it

00:29:19

just pisses me off. a

00:29:24

standard

00:29:26

history of

00:29:27

contradictions, the first conspiracy theory said that

00:29:30

it was Kyivstar itself to show that without them they

00:29:33

could not do anything, so that they would not be

00:29:36

nationalized,

00:29:38

well, they froze their own ears,

00:29:41

another conspiracy theory said No, it was Zelenskyi

00:29:44

and a company with a subordinate who destroyed Kyivstar in order to

00:29:48

nationalize it in a whisper both this and that conspiracy theory

00:29:51

do not have any confirmation of any

00:29:52

fact and they contradict each other. But

00:29:56

again, these conspiracy theories are very

00:29:58

popular and prove something to the people who

00:30:00

spread them, it is simply not

00:30:02

possible physically. There is simply a basic option. And there is a

00:30:05

conspiracy theory, but here are the theories of conspiracies were Well

00:30:08

ok yes nevertheless nevertheless ee

00:30:13

Kyivstar is being restored, the largest

00:30:15

mobile operator that has been with us for a very, very long time

00:30:18

and this is positive news, actually the blow

00:30:21

was strong but Ukraine and Ukrainian

00:30:24

business coped with this blow again I am talking

00:30:26

about Kyivstartse Ukrainian business

00:30:29

despite the whole history with the owners,

00:30:32

because it is really ambiguous, this

00:30:34

story with the owners is really ambiguous, but as a matter of fact, this

00:30:38

Ukrainian company is one of the largest

00:30:41

and, well, I don't want to say the oldest, but a

00:30:44

company that has been on the market for a very long time and

00:30:46

provides for a very long time is the market leader,

00:30:50

so let's see a lot there on

00:30:53

Facebook about such emotional things. The

00:30:58

communication department of Kyivstar probably did a good job. Hello

00:31:00

to him, they did a great job. Yes, but it

00:31:04

is also important. Yes, it is important for the company's

00:31:07

infrastructure that it was able to

00:31:08

recover after the impact.

00:31:15

Russia will not win again. Well, again, not to the

00:31:18

end, again, although the blow was strong, we must

00:31:21

understand that the Russians are capable of such blows

00:31:24

and will continue to be capable, their efforts for

00:31:26

this

00:31:27

determine how And the actual efforts to shell our

00:31:31

cities, now

00:31:34

December has become a little like the new May,

00:31:37

but it is not the end of what we have seen. Well,

00:31:40

yesterday, under Putin's direct line, although

00:31:44

again, the only direct line of Putin that should

00:31:46

worry anyone is the line for

00:31:47

cardiologists, yes, this should be of concern, but

00:31:51

under Putin's direct line, during his speeches, they

00:31:53

started shelling Ukraine with daggers,

00:31:55

this has not happened for a long time they could not just

00:31:57

fly like that, there were a lot of strikes, but

00:31:59

a lot of shelling, where those daggers were

00:32:01

flying, no one knows something,

00:32:04

something exploded over Kiev, Starokonstantinov was

00:32:06

flying, those people who have some contact

00:32:10

with Starokonstantinov said that the Russians did

00:32:13

not achieve anything with their shelling, the

00:32:15

question is what was it trying to achieve and

00:32:18

open Yes, we don't know, but then again,

00:32:21

those people who can say something semi-officially say

00:32:24

hahaha nothing happened to them, it's

00:32:26

nice to hear that, so we'll

00:32:28

believe it. Especially since

00:32:30

we don't have any other information, and there

00:32:32

were also two two nightly ballistic shelling

00:32:34

of Kyiv. What was it and why did it

00:32:38

just start now? This is a huge mystery. We are

00:32:40

all expecting shelling of the

00:32:42

energy infrastructure, remembering how

00:32:44

it was last year.

00:32:46

And two months have already passed since the

00:32:49

start of the shelling last year, and so

00:32:52

far it does not light up, it is constantly

00:32:54

sometimes We import, but but Ukraine

00:32:57

imported before the war in the winter, then it

00:32:59

simply imported electricity from Belarus,

00:33:01

Russia now imports there at peak

00:33:04

times from Europe, so there is nothing

00:33:08

strange here when it is cold, when

00:33:10

it is dark We import, but no

00:33:14

blackouts so far doesn't say And

00:33:16

last year the Russians hit mainly

00:33:18

transformers, they tried to dismember the

00:33:21

Ukrainian energy system in them.

00:33:23

Last year it didn't work out. Our energy engineers

00:33:25

remember that they were just starting out, they already

00:33:28

started to disconnect in order to

00:33:31

prevent some kind of collapse and the system from

00:33:33

collapsing, perhaps considering that

00:33:36

experience, the Russians have changed their tactics, if they are

00:33:39

still doing it, because these night

00:33:41

ballistic attacks, we again do not

00:33:43

know where they were shooting, but the authorities

00:33:48

should probably calculate where, based on the trajectory of the ballistic flight, but no one tells us anything, yes, that is

00:33:50

another

00:33:53

theory conspiracies, which I liked again, in an

00:33:55

empty place they shot down rockets over

00:33:58

Bortnychi, that's why the Russians want the whole of

00:34:00

Kyiv to smell bad. Yes, you understand

00:34:03

what I'm talking about, but listen, they just

00:34:05

flew from the Bryansk region somewhere to

00:34:07

Kyiv. It passes through Bortnychi, this does not

00:34:10

mean that they they aim at this

00:34:13

point in Bortnychy, that's why we don't know where

00:34:15

they are shooting, but using

00:34:17

ballistics, even knowing that there

00:34:19

is a patriot in Kyiv, they use

00:34:22

ballistics,

00:34:24

and it is possible now that the idea is not to dismember

00:34:29

the system, because you remember the

00:34:32

blackout. Last year, the idea

00:34:36

was again the biggest one is to exclude Kyiv as a

00:34:40

result of this dismemberment, and maybe

00:34:42

now they decided to

00:34:44

aim and hit a

00:34:48

specific energy

00:34:51

object in a different way in order to create a problem on the spot,

00:34:53

that is, to aim already at a

00:34:55

specific energy object and that would

00:34:57

be it may have some logic when we

00:35:01

try to explain what they are doing with

00:35:03

these two night bombardments that do not

00:35:05

reach the target.

00:35:17

there is no place for hospitals in Polish hospitals,

00:35:19

because there are very, very, very, very

00:35:22

many wounded Poles, people who

00:35:26

speak Polish, Spanish, English,

00:35:28

French, and so on. Well, they make up and

00:35:30

make up this kind of story,

00:35:33

but we don't know where they actually shot,

00:35:37

yes, and it's such an interesting story

00:35:40

because lately we have stopped understanding

00:35:43

logic. So when a simple as a corner of a house

00:35:46

Surovikin was shelling Last year

00:35:48

everything was clear now when Surovikin was

00:35:51

removed This happens very often in totalitarian

00:35:54

states when you have

00:35:55

some dude you

00:35:58

remove him and all the ideas of that dude

00:36:01

at once become toxic because this is what

00:36:03

this Japanese spy thought. We

00:36:06

can't repeat it. That's why they may

00:36:08

have completely abandoned the

00:36:09

energy infrastructure as such, but

00:36:12

then another question is where are they still

00:36:15

trying to aim with these night

00:36:17

attacks, maybe it's a reaction to certain

00:36:19

factories that in Kyiv, they worked under the

00:36:21

military program, maybe because,

00:36:24

again, we know that there are such factories and the

00:36:25

Russians know about them. Yes, I am not giving away

00:36:28

any military secrets, that there are

00:36:30

certain military factories that have

00:36:32

minus five floors and there. Maybe something

00:36:34

is happening. And maybe it infuriates the

00:36:36

Russians and they shoot and then it has

00:36:39

nothing to do with the

00:36:41

energy sector And actually, but here is an unanswered question so far, what

00:36:44

kind of systematic

00:36:47

shelling of the system shelling of the energy sector is

00:36:49

not taking place, which actually makes life

00:36:52

more comfortable, life in the rear is more

00:36:54

comfortable than it was last year and

00:36:56

and adds to the growth of the economy, it should be

00:36:59

noted that now we are already talking about the

00:37:02

fact that this year, compared to last year,

00:37:04

the growth will be more than 5%, yes, we will see if it will

00:37:07

reach six,

00:37:09

but this is a constantly

00:37:12

working energy system - This is, of course, a

00:37:15

plus, another plus is the sea ports that are

00:37:17

currently being crowded out Sorry for my

00:37:20

French, and even the winter season is being crowded out,

00:37:22

which is not very

00:37:24

favorable for ports, and we can see how they are

00:37:26

starting to export, including ore and

00:37:28

metal and volumes already now, especially there, the

00:37:32

first week of December was generally a

00:37:33

record for a very long time and it already

00:37:35

seems that the volumes have exceeded what was

00:37:38

during the grain corridor, we have to

00:37:40

understand that there are not only grain

00:37:42

corridors working and ore, so adding

00:37:46

it very arithmetically may not be so

00:37:49

correct But nevertheless the

00:37:51

desks are scattered and then we have

00:37:55

another plus Because this will be a plus for

00:37:57

metallurgy and for Ukrainian miners

00:38:02

who will be able to extract more because they

00:38:04

will have somewhere to export. It is also

00:38:06

about growth and the restoration of the economy,

00:38:08

which is very important because, again, any

00:38:11

war is a competition not only of heroes at

00:38:14

the front but also of the rear. the rear is pouring down,

00:38:17

it is very important to understand that if the rear

00:38:19

is pouring down, this is the experience of, for example, the First

00:38:21

World War. Yes, there at the front, they

00:38:24

could have dragged on for a very, very long time. There

00:38:25

was such a cold war, but the rear was pouring down. Yes, the

00:38:29

German rear was pouring down, and then the

00:38:33

rear in the Russian Empire was pouring down. that is why

00:38:36

so much can be paid attention to and

00:38:38

talk about the attention paid to the

00:38:42

rear because it is important for the stability of the front

00:38:45

without the rear there will be no front though Of course

00:38:47

without the boys and girls who are at the front

00:38:50

No rear

00:38:51

will help anyone that is why

00:38:55

in fact this is the story of the gyms

00:38:58

where they go now they are at home and it may

00:39:01

not look very pleasant aesthetically, but

00:39:04

we understand that they are not made from a

00:39:05

good life,

00:39:08

and here is such a story that complaining to those in

00:39:11

the rear that they can issue a

00:39:14

summons in the gym is not very correct,

00:39:17

because, sorry, by law, we all had

00:39:21

to go to the military as soon as

00:39:24

the war started, we all had to do it, if you didn’t

00:39:26

go, you already broke the law Yes. Unfortunately,

00:39:29

we have a weak state with weak

00:39:30

institutions before the war and it was and is

00:39:33

during the war. State institutions are weak,

00:39:35

and therefore it is impossible to force everyone to go.

00:39:38

therefore, the state must or is forced to

00:39:41

resort to such unaesthetic steps,

00:39:43

again with strange signals that

00:39:45

say you should sit in bars and everything

00:39:47

will be okay. And if you are in the gym, you would be better off

00:39:49

sitting in

00:39:52

bars. But again, this is not from a good

00:39:54

life and no one has canceled the problems with mobile phones.

00:39:57

That is, this is it, and we will have to solve this

00:40:00

problem one way or another, once again, with

00:40:02

unpopular steps, what is

00:40:05

happening now in the gyms

00:40:09

will also be the same later, inevitably, most likely, the

00:40:12

age of mobilization will decrease.

00:40:14

In principle, we must

00:40:16

note that in Ukraine has a rather unique

00:40:18

situation that people from 18 to 27 are protected

00:40:23

from mobilization. This is a strange story. It is really

00:40:26

strange because usually this age

00:40:30

group is the most active part of

00:40:34

people who join the armed forces

00:40:35

during every war. This is not what I want.

00:40:39

If you are 20 years old did not go out to fight at all,

00:40:41

yes, you just have to understand that it is strange,

00:40:45

yes, and it is unusual. Taking into account the fact that people

00:40:48

under the age of 27 have better health, one way or

00:40:51

another, even there, the hormonal background

00:40:53

affects the fact that people are more prone to

00:40:56

militant actions.

00:40:58

unpopular things await us

00:41:01

and we must be ready for it yes

00:41:03

Even for those who are still in the rear

00:41:05

and understanding how important this rear is

00:41:08

Yes we repeat that one thing does not interfere with the

00:41:11

other the rear is important on the one hand but on the

00:41:13

other hand well Sorry we need people at the front

00:41:16

and if we are talking about the continuation

00:41:18

of the war, even the war in strategic

00:41:21

defense, we still need new and new,

00:41:23

new, fresh blood, and here the state has an eternal

00:41:28

honest conversation with us.

00:41:38

no one says what kind. Well, for example, do you

00:41:41

remember at the beginning of the war,

00:41:43

Zelensky introduced 15 million hryvnias in

00:41:46

payments to the families of the

00:41:48

dead. There are no such payments anywhere in the world,

00:41:51

even for an American general,

00:41:53

they pay less when he

00:41:55

dies.

00:41:57

And there is another story that the

00:41:59

state does not have this money in on such a scale that they

00:42:01

will be needed, but for some reason no one talks about it,

00:42:04

and as a result, we see

00:42:06

stories that from time to time reach the front

00:42:09

when commanders are ordered not to record

00:42:11

people as having died at the front and so on,

00:42:13

that is, instead of honestly recognizing and

00:42:16

honestly talking to people, we we don't

00:42:18

recognize this problem as a state like Ukraine.

00:42:22

Well, that's all, yes, and we're on the right path. That's it. That's why an

00:42:26

honest conversation is something

00:42:30

that is still lacking.

00:42:36

just

00:42:39

super wonderful and people relax and

00:42:42

people are not ready for the conversation that they would have been

00:42:44

ready for in the first three months of the war, and

00:42:47

then there were many expectations that it would all

00:42:50

end very quickly, remember the

00:42:53

man d-three weeks Yes, these conversations

00:42:56

actually led to the fact that

00:42:58

Now we still can't have honest conversations, and that's the

00:43:01

problem. Another funny story that

00:43:05

happened, well, such a transition. Yes, but I'm sorry.

00:43:09

Zelenskyi was recently in Argentina, and

00:43:11

there it's like they'll give us two helicopters for

00:43:14

nothing, but at least something from

00:43:16

Argentina, there's just more expectations because

00:43:18

Argentina - this is a country that had a

00:43:20

military junta for quite a long time, they

00:43:22

tried

00:43:24

to show a piece of Great Britain there, but they couldn't, but they tried, that

00:43:26

is, they have a military tradition there, that is, they

00:43:29

must have a lot of weapons, and

00:43:31

that president will still have to be

00:43:33

asked for it, but now, well, first of all, there

00:43:37

were already expectations from the president, such a

00:43:40

person was a little tense. Why does

00:43:42

such a person come with such

00:43:44

radical liberal messages, but

00:43:47

as it turned out, he is not as radical as he

00:43:51

wanted to appear before the elections, now he

00:43:53

has appointed to all key economic

00:43:55

positions people who were in the economy when

00:43:59

it was properly managed under

00:44:02

president macro, there was a populist socialist before this millenia,

00:44:07

Yulia

00:44:09

Volodymyrivna, an Argentinian one of

00:44:11

Putin's friends, that's all.

00:44:21

in fact, all these

00:44:24

radical statements, they are

00:44:27

hidden somewhere, and very, very rational steps are being taken

00:44:29

in Argentina now, and here

00:44:34

again, about comparing the situation. To what extent is the

00:44:36

normal

00:44:38

situation in

00:44:40

the economy in Ukraine now, a comparison, especially with what

00:44:42

could have happened now, this week, the

00:44:44

Argentines official the exchange rate was devalued

00:44:47

twice, that is, the official exchange rate was 400 psa

00:44:50

per

00:44:52

dollar in one day, it became 800 psa per

00:44:55

dollar. Well, everything is fine, but on the black market

00:44:57

it is still 1000 so per dollar, so the difference in

00:45:01

Argentina until this week between the official

00:45:04

exchange rate and the exchange rate on the street

00:45:07

was 200 PE and 1,000 five times and here.

00:45:12

Now our story looks so funny.

00:45:14

This week, the hryvnia devalued a little,

00:45:17

it was

00:45:19

36.9, it became 37, and such journalists call

00:45:23

you on the air and say what

00:45:26

happened. Did you see what happened to the hryvnia?

00:45:28

now you know, it was

00:45:30

5° outside, it was four degrees, and everyone is like that, oh, now we will

00:45:34

all freeze, it will be full of snow, yes,

00:45:38

in fact, the situation on the foreign exchange market,

00:45:39

again, compare

00:45:41

what is happening there with Argentina, that is why we have these

00:45:47

external examples so that we

00:45:48

understand how much this is an economic miracle

00:45:51

that is happening in our country now, we didn't become

00:45:54

Switzerland. You don't have to take me at

00:45:56

my word and say that it's an economic miracle that we did

00:45:58

n't get caught and didn't fall as hard as we should have

00:46:02

because of such a war. This is already an

00:46:04

economic miracle.

00:46:07

do you read messages, of course, that's all I

00:46:08

do when I say that I

00:46:10

read messages, especially when one-on-

00:46:12

one with a microphone and there I see a lot of

00:46:16

people

00:46:17

writing to me, why am I saying thank you, and it's driving me

00:46:20

crazy, you know, there are many people who

00:46:22

have now switched from Russian to a

00:46:24

Ukrainian who thinks in Russian or

00:46:27

who has a rich experience of communication and

00:46:29

instead of supporting such

00:46:30

people, here are these grammar mistakes. Farnev women there

00:46:34

probably find some small

00:46:36

trinket and start clinging to it.

00:46:39

Well, what are you trying to achieve with this

00:46:41

clinging, you want to demotivate a person

00:46:43

from speaking Ukrainian and

00:46:45

switched back to Russian to

00:46:47

look at the word boy or what are you

00:46:49

trying to do with it, but I always

00:46:51

had the question, what, what, what,

00:46:55

what,

00:46:57

but it’s just a piece of emotion. Well, yes, it

00:47:02

happened in Russia, we still

00:47:04

had two minutes left. Yes, and they say, read

00:47:06

less comets, that’s right, I’ll

00:47:08

read less, yes, there are two minutes left, let’s

00:47:11

quickly talk about what was there in Russia. A

00:47:15

direct line with Putin, many people in the world,

00:47:18

even liberals, were fascinated. Did you see

00:47:20

what they brought up there, what questions were brought up to

00:47:23

Stella during the conversation, yes, they

00:47:26

brought it up for you for you to

00:47:28

get excited, no one showed the Russians these questions,

00:47:31

this is a manipulation that they

00:47:33

are doing not for the first time, and you are again happy with

00:47:36

these manipulations, and Well, I don't know who got

00:47:38

excited about Putin's direct line, he definitely

00:47:41

almost reached orgasm, judging by

00:47:44

this post, but these are his sexual

00:47:46

problems, and the second person who

00:47:50

surprised a lot this week, in addition, well, not really, yes,

00:47:53

Elon Musk can’t surprise him, somewhere

00:47:55

he had some broadcast with another idiot

00:47:57

Ramaswamy, you know there is a presidential candidate

00:47:59

who has already become a laughing stock,

00:48:01

but somewhere there they discussed and the mass

00:48:04

said that Putin is a normal man that

00:48:06

despite all the dictatorial

00:48:08

schemes, he is a normal man. Yes, and he

00:48:11

does everything for the Russians to make them feel good. You

00:48:13

know how they wrote about Orban here, that

00:48:17

Orban does something for the Hungarians, and Putin

00:48:20

suffers for the Russians, that's what Ilan Musk says.

00:48:22

He says that he doesn't care. he likes

00:48:23

Russians and he doesn't mind getting a

00:48:26

Russian passport one day. And he also

00:48:29

listens very carefully to Putin's speeches. That's how this

00:48:34

paradox of Ilon the Mask will haunt me for a very long time. How can a

00:48:36

person who was

00:48:39

so successful and so

00:48:41

visionary become such a fool

00:48:44

in the end? And one more question I wonder how people

00:48:46

still buy Tesla in Ukraine. Tell

00:48:49

me, please. If no one is listening, how

00:48:51

can you now dare to buy a Tesla

00:48:53

after what Elon Musk has already said? With

00:48:56

this question, with this question, I will

00:48:58

finish and until Tuesday everyone,

00:49:05

bye-bye, special broadcast on the radio

00:49:10

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00:49:13

nv, this is the view of the permanent author of

00:49:17

nv on one of the hottest topics of the day in

00:49:21

Poland, the new government, what does it mean for

00:49:24

Ukraine, the author, Maria Zolkina, head of the

00:49:26

regional security and

00:49:28

conflict research department,

00:49:30

Ilko Kucherva Foundation for Democratic Initiatives, with the new

00:49:33

government in Poland, headed by Donald

00:49:35

Tusk is associated with Hopes for the reduction of

00:49:37

tension in recent months not only on the

00:49:39

Ukraine-Poland line, but also on the

00:49:43

Warsaw-Brussels line, however, instead of exacerbating

00:49:45

the situation, we should immediately move to euphoria, we

00:49:47

should remember that we should

00:49:50

build rational mutually beneficial

00:49:52

relations with Poland, which will allow us to compete

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