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experiments, many of my colleagues
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who are involved in automation
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have encountered the problem of
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relay contacts sticking together on control devices,
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well, isn’t it time, the problem is
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that when controlling
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LED loads, a large current arises to them,
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which leads to the
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contacts sticking together and, in principle, rally
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fails,
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so many people use a relay like a
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roller
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in conjunction with contactors, that is, the roles
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close the contactor, the contactor already supplies
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power to the load, respectively,
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today they brought you an interesting thing,
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two modules, this is a module that may not
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need to use the link to the roller, I
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will leave it in the description modular 5 relays for
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control, this module is compatible with
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Yandex Alicia, you can see in more detail a
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video about a budget smart home
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and the
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same module on the wreath, but with four roles and with
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bugaga shenets spark extinguishing, the idea was
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what was the idea, how to actually
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achieve stable adhesion of
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relay contacts on the old modules and check and check how the
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new module will work under the same
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conditions, these are the modules with spark
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extinguishing and without spark extinguishing, the
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relays are a little torn to see
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how they will actually be and hide
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it, the old module was called with 6 and 5, and
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that is, it has six moves and 5 outputs and
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this is a new module sister with damping with 6 and 4
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o all this electronics is done in a
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solution that the old relay is 16 amperes that the
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new roles are also 16 amperes
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the main feature of these modules is
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that essentially this is a pulse role I will
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now explain in this module we have, by
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and large, five pulse roles of 5
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moves,
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while they are not 220 volts but 6 volts
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or 12 volts, in general, the safe
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voltage clicked on
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clicked off and one input
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it always turns off, that is,
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you can turn it off by the wizard to do
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this the module costs 6000,
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this 8000 here it turns out, roughly speaking,
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in one package there are 4 impulse rallies and
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that’s 2000 per channel, and in this 5 of this it
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turns out to be about 1200 per channel, that is, you can
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immediately compare it with that, if you
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’re worried about impulse rallies again, you can
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take this module and in the future we will
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also make a smart home out of it, blaming
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just a bus and connecting x to the police, we
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will also control it from the Internet
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at 15-30 and watt bulbs of this will receive
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450 watts. The beginning of the experiment is what, there
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is not enough light, let’s be sincere, it’s boring.
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now we are cast from whoever there is,
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but there is no fault at all and we are all from the same
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light bulb, our copper field does not shine, I can
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sing, there are no sparks at all, and it will save you the
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corus of the light bulb on a straight
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awesome light bulb, a simple focus of windows, you
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need to burn it out, but only once, but it’s stuck, you
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know why by the way it could
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have stuck because maybe
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the capacitor was charged there for the first time from
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while you are now quickly clicking they are not yes
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they are not yet discharged all there
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is some kind of static you
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just need to cut the [ __ ]
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creature
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now the sun is closing he is now
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Davos you are simply fantastic the light bulbs
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were connected to a 200 watt power supply;
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I couldn’t find any more, and three
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strips of
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72, each is 14 4 watts per meter, that
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is, it will be just a little more than
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200 watts on which the grove power supply does
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n’t burn out now and it won’t stick, let’s
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add another 150 pairs, although you need a hard
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hat, a helmet, dielectric gloves,
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technical supervision of all supervision from below and from
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above from below, probably an
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experimenter on the [ __ ], add a word,
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probably, okay, let’s check for it, there is a
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phase, there is a phase, yes, let’s take off
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the big piece, I’ll take this thing off I’ll run it
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in general, opening not by
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closing the tape light, I’ll show that all the
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Svityaz tapes, three tapes are lit, but the
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campaign hit about 5 thousand, but the fact that the task
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was to burn it so that it would stick, even
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sincerely there
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we have a good driver, by the way, it’s
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not the most expensive one we took and the same
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dear driver again sad
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again sad womb rude
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now we were all asleep let it get wet let's
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close up oh oh oh it didn't work out
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at all let me get married
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meet on all the ribbons light up all
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five ribbons light up but the niche doesn't
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turn on with a delay well yes right
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turn it on and off turned on with a delay in short, yes,
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their power supplies are good power
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supplies, the
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inrush currents are limited, and to be honest, here are
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the problems, so what
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will we do with coins, we have to break it, that is,
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desolder it, that’s enough, I’m cruel with
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power supplies in sight, I have 5 kopecks 100
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pain of disappointment, what should I do anyway?
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Naturally, there is nothing for once,
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it was the third day of our attempts
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to extract a role from someone from the old one, but with
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diodes we were already eager
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to experiment, in short, we take 3
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kilowatts, well, we wind the gun up to the entire
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3 kilowatts, which is about 13
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amperes, but the protection relay is designed for
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16 if We won’t have the gun grow together here,
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we’ll add something else, we’ll also add a lot,
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let’s shoot the big one, I’ll turn on
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the gun right away for everything on May 10th, big
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let’s strike a spark for Oscar,
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wait, don’t focus, let’s go,
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finally there was a spark,
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but they strung it on oh how it is with what then we
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’ll add a hair dryer to make it all shorter, in general, the
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trick is that the relay sticks precisely during
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switching, which is typical primarily for
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LED strips; they have a high fast
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starting current, but for LED lamps there are also
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drivers, but those drivers that we
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had showed themselves to be very good in length,
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well straight to hp, in short, so we’ll just
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show how to work with korra extinguishing,
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in short, another attempt, this is probably the
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last one to knock the situation out of the eyes, in
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general, a teapot, I think a couple of kilowatts, a
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heat gun of 3 kilowatts and this construction hair dryer,
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how much is it there? It’s waiting for one and a half
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kilowatts, 7 and 5 amps then let's say that
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most likely there will be nothing at the starting point,
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but
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there is a rally spark for opening,
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let's remind you that 16 1 is now designed for
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this role and the sister by extinguishing
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sincerely, sincerely,
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including sincerely
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sincerely, let's see what kind of current our
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wires are heating up, even a little bit,
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all one and a half Russian but twenty-two
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amperes
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here is a 16 amp relay, are you getting ready for something,
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in general, in short, are we freaking out, is he freaking out? I’m freaking out,
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I can already be a ball of rubbish,
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yes, he’s already been able to achieve sticking
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only once, which has never
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been repeated at 15 30 watt light bulb
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now 23 30 important
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720 important light bulbs just from Tivat and we
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ran out of three four old
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lamps that we removed from the office, a
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100-watt spotlight, here is a 200-watt power supply
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and a loaded 200 by 200 watt
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LED strip 150 watts, two more
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strips 47 in general there should be about a
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kilowatt, taking into account that that we are
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being deceived by manufacturers using LEDs,
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they write that the load is less, but we think there
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will be about a kilowatt here, so
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we put the current clamps on,
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everything is turned on, in short, we start, move
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away, now it will be bright, I didn’t see it and it won’t
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open, [ __ ] it, we once had these
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words and we were looking for it, if not no,
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sincerely they stick, yes, my,
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I’m upset for the dude, they just
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turned off 4 amps working almost a
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kilowatt, in short,
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we had to do something
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in the end, we can break down the night,
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increasing a little bit, it starts from
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three, it starts up,
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how to draw beautiful conclusions,
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they are not an hour, I want this stories and sad
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2 2 relays we'll try to build roles
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will do can close with it oh well damn it's closed it's flooded it's stuck there's no
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sticking you're just commands nothing sticks to
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the sky they're stuck no one's flooding
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our highway the quality of the seam, etc.
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the trader is stuck, you deceived yourself a little,
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think about the thought, let's do music next, where is
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your New Year's hat or Santa Claus, I
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don't know what to load here anymore, you're dear
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01 in short, one old
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dead switching power supply with power
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per kilowatt load, I can
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tell you to take it to the vita, climb
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the problem to in fact,
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what is the problem with each lamp when the light
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bulbs have their own driver
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here, their drivers there, their drivers, and the
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moment of starting these drivers is not
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synchronized and, accordingly, there is no
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such a large switching current, such a
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large starting current, it is simply
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spread out in time, it is a little
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earlier than the other and a little later and that’s why,
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but we can’t deny the presence of a problem,
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problems arise after a couple of years of
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operation, okay, or you just
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got a very fun role, really really
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fun, we’re glad,
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unfortunately, the goals of our experiment were not
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achieved, we were not able to achieve
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systemic sticking of the relay, but we also deny
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the fact that with Over time, such roles
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begin to stick, there is no point in
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this evidence, the numerous experiences of
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my colleagues, including not my
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juniel-based device, stood for two years
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before they began to fill,
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perhaps this is due to the fact that the
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drivers wear out, the drivers are of
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poor quality, they dry out, perhaps the
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conter and who knows, well in general, after
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a while, such roles begin to
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stick; they don’t always happen to everyone, but
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they do happen, and this is typical primarily
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for LED loads, and also
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to deny the fact that a role with treats
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can extend the service life also makes
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no sense, we have all seen that when a
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powerful load is opened, an arc are absent,
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unlike the usual roles, as they were lost,
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will show themselves on the LED load,
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only time will tell, but not everyone
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who liked it, put a like,
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subscribe to the channel, see you bye

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