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everything

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[music]

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So Can you observe This is me

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created by thought

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to observe it

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without bringing the movement of thought into This

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observation

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you understand this

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look please first of all at the

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logic of this logic

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thought is the response of knowledge and memory

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which is the past

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therefore

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thought is

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the past

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and therefore it is always will be limited

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true

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and in its action thought has created

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the division of

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I and not I you and I we and they

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and has also created various types of

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divisions

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technological action

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personal action

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ideological action

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supreme action and so on

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true

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this is a fact

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now Can you observe this fact

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please listen carefully

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Can you observe this fact

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without a thought

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interfering with This is an observation

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A replica from the audience this is the only

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instrument that I am used to using

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one minute sir I am just getting to this point he

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says that this is the only instrument

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that he has

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and therefore how can I watch without

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using this instrument

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you understood

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you asked the wrong question

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because we did

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not understand clearly that thought is

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limited

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If you clearly see the limitation of thought

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then you recognize that the tool itself

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is limited understand

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and is it possible not to use this

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tool

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If you find that a particular drill

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cannot drill a hole

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you will find another means to

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drill But if you say I

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only have this tool

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then you will not be able to drill

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a hole you understand

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So do we understand that this

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tool itself is useless

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useful for researching an issue to

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explore a conflict issue that is the

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whole point you understand I

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wonder

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if you understand this

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gentlemen We see

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we are so accustomed to a certain type of

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action

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that does not give effect but we hold on to

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it

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we do not talk

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Let me find something else

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you understand this is our struggle

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you want to use the tool of thought

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and through thought you hope to solve

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the problem

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But thought itself is limited and

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therefore, it is not an instrument, do

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you see it correctly, do

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we see that there is a conflict in our relationships

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Everyone has their

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own image and therefore division

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and this image was created by thought And thought is

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limited and cannot solve the problem

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Now we acquire a new tool,

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namely observation without intervention

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lovers you won't let go of the

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old tool you think that the old

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tool will help you

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but you don't see

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that the old tool has created these big

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problems in life

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and you continue to use this

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tool

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as soon as you see it you look in

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other directions right

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it's like a good carpenter

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so he either throws it away buys a

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new one

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but he

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refuses it no

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because you don’t have

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clarity

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we don’t think Clearly

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or We are afraid that if a

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new tool appears then everything may collapse

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you are scared

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What does it mean that you have already

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projected a thought an

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idea that may be wrong you

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understand everything this

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So Can you

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observe without the old instrument of thought

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Can you observe the actual

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relationship of two images between two

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people

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and Is there a division look at

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this observe this will you see this

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then what is happening

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You can only do this when

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you put aside the old instrument of

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looking in Gentlemen, if I want to understand

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what you are saying,

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I must hear you. I must

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listen to you with love, care and attention,

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so I want to find out what you are

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saying.

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But if I say yes, I agree with you, I

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have heard it before. Or are you saying something

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new something Impossible you are not listening

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therefore Lord listening

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implies a huge feeling of love,

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attention and care

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But if you have not understood this then

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your old tool works

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and then you say how can I be

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attentive

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Tell me about the method about the system

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then thought invents the system and then

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you become a slave to this system and you

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continue to move in it whereas

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if you see the importance of

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disunity in relationships is

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real If you see the danger

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when we destroy each other right

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terrorists capitalists we destroy

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each other therefore Each of us

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feels separate

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and if you see this danger then you

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will listen you are already in a

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state of deep listening to

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find out if there is a way out of all this are

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you listening correctly in this way

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[music]

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it means

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silent observation

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silence does not mean just going to sleep

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or something like that

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Silence is incredible attention

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this attention is absolute

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energy

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all the energy that you have is

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completely your mind and heart this is

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attention then you listen and this

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listening itself this observation

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dissolves the limitations of the instrument

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because

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If you do not understand

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the essence of the discipline That is me and what

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needs to be achieved you understand what I mean To

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to achieve this I must

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discipline myself do I want to achieve

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God Whatever God is that

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again is an invention of thought

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Do you agree with all this

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see have we trained ourselves to be

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good

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you tell the child Be good does not

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do that

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[music]

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Does virtue take

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birth? Love from discipline

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is born Mercy humility

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generosity from discipline

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and Is it possible to find truth with the help of

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discipline

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enlightenment through discipline What does it

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mean to

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adjust to the template

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that is, the

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subordination of the ego I to another template to the

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template that is invented by another you

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understand all this

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So When you see all this the main

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question like this

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Can you live in this world

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without everything that thought has come up with without

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gods you

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know psychologically

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thought has come up with postmen engineers

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right money

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is needed postmen you need engineers

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But

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you don’t need what

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thought has created

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following your desire to be

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psychologically safe

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and in this there is no safety

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only when there is no

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disunity

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is true

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[music]

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Можете ли вы наблюдать "Я" без движения мысли? Джидду Кришнамурти - человек, который из любви к миру и истине отказался от роли живого Бога, мирового Учителя, роли, к которой он был предназначен с детства. Сделал он это, так как осознал, что истина, если она открыта не самостоятельно, а навязана авторитетом другого, пусть даже в высшей степени замечательного существа, не ведет ни к чему, кроме иллюзий, конфликта и страдания. Отрывок из четвертого публичного выступления в Саанене, 1979 год. Оригинал видео смотрите на https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYWBBJWIuls&list=PL1n30s-LKus6vL63xha1RsiYSRdg9wOTh&index=78 Youtube.com -https://www.youtube.com/user/KFoundation/featured

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