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we don’t need the bears to die,00:00:04
let him sit in his den and not come out; we do00:00:07
n’t need it to00:00:08
disappear in any way in Russia until Moldova will be, if00:00:11
it’s important for you to hear, protected by00:00:14
ending this war, NATO is a Panacea00:00:17
Well, until Russia makes a00:00:19
decision that a nuclear war is possible00:00:21
If our country enters into the know then the00:00:23
republic of the young will be between two00:00:25
countries members of NATO and can of course00:00:27
cherish then its neutrality is possible00:00:30
No of course they are impossible they were not00:00:32
possible and booty after on What do you want00:00:35
if there was a Civil War here in the00:00:37
twenties years of the past of the Capital and there was a00:00:39
skillful selection of idiots there is a simple00:00:41
formula for the restoration of the Russian00:00:43
Federation within the borders of the Soviet Union in00:00:45
1991, our state must00:00:49
cease to exist, exactly the same00:00:51
applies to Transnistria, this is00:00:53
just some Tiraspol region of the Odessa00:00:55
region of the Russian Federation, not a00:00:57
single problem has been solved00:00:59
Georgia was solved during the time, but at such a00:01:00
price, at the cost of being integrated, but00:01:03
Russia’s influence in this region remains, I00:01:06
think that Russia will overstrain itself on this, I don’t00:01:09
want to be politically correct again,00:01:12
I generally think that the Russians are crazy00:01:14
as a nation,00:01:16
if Ukraine joins NATO, Moldova00:01:19
can continue to cherish your00:01:20
neutrality00:01:21
political geography Medvedev in00:01:24
dens ditches with crocodiles today00:01:26
we are talking about this with the guest of the00:01:28
non-fiction-Svyatchenko project, Ukrainian00:01:30
journalists and political scientist Vitaly00:01:32
Portnikov Subscribe friends to our00:01:35
channel with us it’s interesting00:01:37
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Hello Vitaly Glad to see you on00:01:41
our channel00:01:42
like this I have a question for you about how00:01:45
Vitaly Portnikov has changed since February 24, 2200:01:48
And to this day.00:01:52
Greetings. It seems to me that a person in the00:01:57
situation in which Each of us00:01:59
finds himself after the00:02:01
start of the war can hardly evaluate00:02:04
any personal changes that00:02:06
happen to him objectively. I think that00:02:09
when we talk with journalists,00:02:14
especially with those journalists who00:02:15
continue00:02:17
because I have many colleagues who00:02:19
today serve in the armed forces of00:02:22
Ukraine00:02:23
and here are their texts, their00:02:27
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reflections, they talk about very serious00:02:31
changes that naturally00:02:34
occur with every person who00:02:37
finds themselves in on the front line,00:02:40
who00:02:42
every hour risks her life, who00:02:45
defends the country with arms in her hands. And I think a person00:02:49
who continues to engage in00:02:51
professional activity00:02:53
should not00:02:56
analyze any changes, because00:03:00
for journalists, war is the same00:03:04
professional activity, a00:03:05
continuation of professional00:03:07
activity, both for a doctor00:03:09
and for an energy worker who is now is doing00:03:12
everything possible to restore our00:03:14
infrastructure, the choice of this profession itself,00:03:18
I think you will agree with me, it00:03:20
involves the choice of stress after00:03:25
February 24, 2020, the second year, many of my00:03:30
compatriots, not only00:03:31
compatriots, found themselves in the00:03:33
stressful world in which you and I00:03:35
always live, by and large so that we always00:03:37
live in the flow of news, we constantly00:03:41
deal with huge amounts of information,00:03:43
we try to analyze them, we try00:03:45
to understand what is happening, what is hidden behind00:03:49
each news, what is hidden behind each00:03:52
message, these are completely obvious00:03:56
professional things for us, an ordinary person, we do00:04:00
n’t think about this either because we simply00:04:03
live in some other world. it doesn’t00:04:06
live like that, it may seem to us that people are just00:04:08
like us, that they are constantly00:04:11
interested in information, that they read the00:04:12
news, that they analyze nothing00:04:15
of the kind happens, most of the00:04:17
people are not interested in political news at all00:04:20
and are not even interested in non-political news00:04:22
if we compare, let’s say, the smartphone of the00:04:25
person who reads us and ourselves00:04:28
we will see that we are talking about completely00:04:33
different spectrums of interests there will be00:04:36
a lot of films00:04:38
some memes some comics for00:04:43
some Maybe there will be opera Arias00:04:45
concerts for others00:04:49
scientific and technical news but not at all00:04:51
like us we live with you and our work with you00:04:55
will be five dashes ten00:04:57
percent. Maybe at best in the00:05:00
best case in politicized00:05:02
societies such as Ukrainian or00:05:04
Moldavian but 20 percent interest. And00:05:07
after February 24,00:05:11
202, most of the people here in00:05:14
our country began to live as00:05:15
journalists usually live, people don’t00:05:17
look away, we are now less focused00:05:19
on00:05:20
smartphones, they are glued to00:05:23
TV screens, they look at their00:05:25
computers, they are interested in what00:05:29
interests us all our lives, so in00:05:31
fact, for journalists during the war, no00:05:34
special changes can happen,00:05:36
they just continue to work, understandably let’s00:05:39
say that the operating room is more busy,00:05:42
it’s like a00:05:45
doctor who,00:05:47
even in some Peaceful city, is00:05:51
forced to operate on wounded people, is00:05:53
forced to reckon with the amount of00:05:55
stress with the amount of anxiety00:05:58
that patients may have, this is00:06:00
certainly the case during war,00:06:02
but in general I think that this is normal00:06:07
professional activities, moreover,00:06:09
and I remember very well that00:06:12
when it was the late 80s and early 90s,00:06:16
many of my American colleagues00:06:19
changed the positions of heads of their00:06:22
information publications to the positions of00:06:24
correspondents as a point in Moscow. It was so00:06:26
interesting.00:06:28
Yes, it was because a journalist needs00:06:30
to be in exactly such a position place My00:06:32
colleague Bill Keller later became editor-in-chief00:06:34
David Ancient editor-in-chief of00:06:36
the New Yorker these are the people00:06:38
with whom I worked together cholesterol00:06:40
headed the Ministry of Foreign Affairs00:06:43
of Canada now as deputy prime minister of the Canadian00:06:45
government These are the people who00:06:46
worked in Moscow in the 80s 90s years It is00:06:49
absolutely a journalist who must be in the00:06:51
epicenter of a crisis if he even wants to00:06:54
engage in this profession where an00:06:56
ordinary person would like to00:06:58
leave and this is a big difference. As they00:07:01
say, that’s why it’s very difficult for me to00:07:03
answer your question, I say seriously00:07:06
when I look at myself in the mirror00:07:09
I see that I have changed outwardly, but I don’t00:07:14
think that this is due precisely to the fact that I00:07:17
live in a war. I think that this is due to the fact00:07:19
that I just work a lot more. Let’s00:07:23
say it’s not just that there are no days off, but that there is00:07:27
no opportunity to relax,00:07:30
which always exists in Peacetime00:07:33
Well, of course, this is reflected in the appearance,00:07:36
of course, but I don’t see them at all; these are external00:07:39
changes; internal changes. I don’t00:07:42
feel. To be honest, I00:07:45
haven’t noticed anything yet. Which, let’s say,00:07:48
would not justify my forecasts even before00:07:50
the military;00:07:51
as journalists, it’s not very interesting to00:07:53
watch historical events, this is00:07:56
just professional00:08:01
Such a challenge is00:08:03
extraordinary, terrible, historical00:08:05
events And as a citizen, I believe that00:08:09
my country will preserve its state00:08:11
When were you most afraid this year00:08:13
24 or later00:08:19
But again, what does a00:08:22
feeling of fear mean?00:08:28
Well, I didn’t have such feelings, to be00:08:30
honest which I would say fears there were00:08:32
some kind of emotional turmoil when00:08:36
I was there I was worried about my loved ones00:08:41
there was a feeling of emotional involvement00:08:44
very strong00:08:46
when I learned the training00:08:50
I00:08:52
wrote my text training an important text for me00:08:55
berry in general there was a post on Facebook which00:08:58
then I only realized later that this is00:09:00
an article I wrote it in a bomb shelter00:09:04
not far from my apartment00:09:09
Well, it was precisely the feeling of00:09:11
emotional involvement, I don’t really00:09:13
understand, I think that fear is a completely00:09:15
different feeling00:09:16
when you, again, I don’t think that I00:09:20
have the right to such a feeling If I00:09:23
were if a soldier I could think00:09:26
Where When I felt fear We live in00:09:29
peaceful cities, of course these cities00:09:32
are attacked, there are rocket attacks This is a00:09:34
question of discipline of behavior That’s why I00:09:37
also don’t really understand00:09:41
what we’re talking about I think that you just00:09:43
underestimate00:09:45
people are different You underestimate my00:09:48
curiosity00:09:50
here I am I remember very well that00:09:53
in the first months there I was constantly in a00:09:56
bomb shelter,00:09:59
and one day I realized that I simply00:10:02
don’t have the right to go on night hikes00:10:03
because I’m just00:10:06
running out of steam, I can’t work normally00:10:08
Because I can’t get enough00:10:09
sleep and nothing seems to happen doesn’t00:10:11
happen and I woke up, went to the window00:10:15
and saw Smoke from a rocket that hit nearby.00:10:20
Well, I had the feeling that I was00:10:22
present at a historical event.00:10:24
I generally believe that a person who is00:10:27
interested in living in historical times00:10:29
cannot a priori experience a feeling of fear00:10:32
because it interferes with work00:10:35
like this it can fly into the office, a00:10:39
rocket can fly anywhere, it can00:10:43
fly into the office, it can fly into the street, it can land00:10:45
near a bomb shelter Even a matter of life00:10:48
circumstances, it may not be a rocket, it00:10:49
may be00:10:55
some kind of accident Just now I was walking,00:10:58
thinking about a film script that I00:11:01
could write about the love of a00:11:03
Ukrainian girl with a Russian guy before00:11:06
the war and then the war begins and she wants to leave the00:11:10
warring country because she is00:11:13
very afraid. And since she has Jewish00:11:15
roots, she repatriates to Israel and there00:11:19
serves in the army at a00:11:21
checkpoint. And the guy doesn’t want to00:11:24
serve00:11:25
in the Russian army goes to war, leaves00:11:28
for an Arab country where he meets with00:11:31
people who offer him, for a lot of00:11:32
money,00:11:33
to participate in a terrorist00:11:35
organization to undermine this control at the00:11:37
checkpoint and she kills him00:11:39
during this terrorist attack00:11:41
began00:11:47
in Italy, we recently visited00:11:51
Dr. Evgeniy Komarovsky00:11:52
Subscribe, friends, to our channel00:11:54
fictions rection to Dr. Komarovsky00:11:58
says that the point of no return has become Butch,00:12:01
that after it, peace negotiations with the00:12:04
Russian Federation in one form or another are00:12:06
practically unrealistic00:12:09
Well, listen, Dr. Komarovsky is not00:12:12
political experts, they are ready00:12:14
to comment when he talks about00:12:16
pediatrics, it’s interesting when he speaks00:12:18
about politics, he is very far from00:12:19
commenting on what his00:12:22
views on the political process are.00:12:28
No, of course they are impossible, they were not00:12:30
possible prey after the butch, what00:12:32
difference does it make, you just recently wrote00:12:35
in freedom, what is the worst thing about00:12:38
this conflict is that there are no00:12:39
prospects for political regulation00:12:41
more -less realistic because for00:12:46
Russia Ukraine is a Rebellious province with the00:12:50
provinces not negotiating,00:12:52
by the way it’s surprising that this00:12:53
interlocutor of yours is such a mirror00:12:56
of Ukrainian society that he still00:12:59
believes00:13:01
that Ukraine can decide whether to hold00:13:04
peace negotiations with Russia or not,00:13:06
he doesn’t notice the00:13:08
absence of this interest in Russia And00:13:11
by the way, it was precisely this misunderstanding that led to the way the00:13:14
Ukrainians voted, I would say00:13:17
twice, and in 2014 and 2019 when they00:13:22
voted for Petro Poroshenko when they00:13:23
voted for Vladimir Zelensky they00:13:25
all the time voted for a person who00:13:27
will definitely be able to conduct peace negotiations00:13:30
with Russia, Poroshenko is a diplomat, a00:13:33
moderate person00:13:35
who knows how to build a political dialogue,00:13:37
so he will definitely come to an agreement,00:13:40
and then when it turned out that no one00:13:43
wants to negotiate with Poroshenko, not00:13:45
because Poroshenko didn’t want to, as you00:13:46
understand, a new idea appeared. Why do we need00:13:49
these politicians at all? Let’s just00:13:50
come with the same ones guys, just like we want00:13:53
peace, they will come to an agreement with Putin,00:13:55
they will explain everything to him, they will not be00:13:57
interested in continuing the war,00:13:59
and in this Ukrainian examination, let’s call it00:14:02
that, the people’s examination, the examination of00:14:05
Dr. Komarovsky is missing Russia,00:14:08
you understand, and Russia has completely clear00:14:11
and clear goals that are understandable clear since00:14:14
1991 and Russia will seek the00:14:16
implementation of these goals from Putin, this is00:14:19
not enough. What depends in this process is00:14:23
Putin. The trigger is the engine of this process in the00:14:27
power of it from the world, but in general we must00:14:30
clearly understand, I have never said this before,00:14:32
there is a simple formula for the restoration of the00:14:34
Russian Federation in borders of the00:14:36
Soviet Union in 1991, our00:14:40
state should cease00:14:41
to exist in Moldova as well. This applies to00:14:44
exactly the same extent to Ukraine00:14:47
only. It’s just that if Ukraine had been00:14:49
conquered, if our army had let the00:14:54
Russian army through Transnistria, then the00:14:57
young people would have disappeared there in 48 hours.00:15:00
could resist as much as00:15:02
Ukraine Not because your country does not00:15:04
have courageous people who are ready to00:15:06
put up for it that a small00:15:08
state is against a huge monster00:15:11
But I, the same applies to Georgia00:15:14
Armenia Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan instant00:15:16
Central I just suspect that00:15:19
the statuses are different, that is,00:15:23
this one the part of Moldova that is00:15:25
controlled by the legitimate Moldovan00:15:27
government can become part of00:15:28
Russia as an autonomous republic;00:15:32
Ukrainians and Russians and Belarusians are one00:15:35
people, so there00:15:37
will be no autonomous status for Ukrainians; just00:15:39
regions within the Russian Federation00:15:41
that, apparently, will be cleared of00:15:45
population as a result of this war00:15:46
because the population is not loyal and the Belarusians00:15:48
will simply enter the regions, as00:15:50
Putin once said, Lukashenko join the00:15:52
Russian regions. Therefore, if you want00:15:55
to know what this state should look like00:15:56
in the head of Vladimir Putin, I00:15:58
will tell you how big the Russian00:16:00
Federation is, ordinary regions on the site of00:16:03
modern Ukraine and Belarus exactly00:16:07
the same applies to Transnistria, this is00:16:09
just some Tiraspol region of the00:16:11
Odessa region of the Russian Federation,00:16:12
relatively speaking,00:16:14
autonomous Moldova,00:16:16
autonomous Georgia Azerbaijan Armenia,00:16:18
Abkhazia,00:16:20
South Ossetia,00:16:22
most of Kazakhstan is simply part of the00:16:25
Russian Federation, in a smaller00:16:27
part, the autonomous Kazakh SSR Well,00:16:30
autonomous Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and00:16:33
Turkmenistan and Kyrgyzstan, Stalin’s plan is00:16:36
actually what Vissarionovich wanted to build in 1920, the second00:16:41
year, steel is00:16:43
a big Russia in which non-Russian00:16:47
nationalities have an autonomous status, but00:16:50
part of the actual Russian territories00:16:51
lives as a single Russian people because00:16:53
Ukrainians do not exist, it’s simply a00:16:55
big Russia without any00:16:59
national component. Well, how these00:17:01
peoples exist on the basis of autonomy,00:17:03
you are interested in you can see how00:17:04
Chuvashia Buryatia exists like this Well,00:17:08
then what were we00:17:11
talking about anyway, so00:17:13
since such a solution exists, there00:17:17
was always00:17:19
an idea that everything possible should be done so00:17:21
that these former Soviet Republics do00:17:23
not go far keep them on a leash CIS00:17:27
then an attempt to create a union00:17:30
state of Russia Belarus It00:17:32
should have included a much00:17:34
larger number of participants, it’s just that the00:17:35
other Republics didn’t want to then it’s the00:17:38
Eurasian Economic Union then00:17:41
an attempt to build a Eurasian00:17:43
economic space of Russia00:17:45
Ukraine Belarus Kazakhstan00:17:47
then an attempt to disrupt the signing by our00:17:50
countries of an agreement on association with the EU00:17:53
may be disrupted, granting Ukraine to00:17:57
Georgia plans for NATO membership00:17:59
goes on like this all the time. I’m not even talking about the00:18:01
occupation of Moldovan territory by00:18:02
Russian troops when we talk about00:18:04
Transnistria about the occupation of part of the00:18:05
territory of Georgia and the occupation of part of the00:18:07
territory of Ukraine in 2014. This00:18:10
whole process is not going anywhere it’s gone, it00:18:12
continues. It’s just that now,00:18:14
I would say, the culmination at the moment00:18:18
has become the war in Ukraine. If we assume00:18:22
that this war for some reason,00:18:24
for example, the depletion of Russian resources, the00:18:26
military loss stops in this00:18:29
direction, it will not stop in other00:18:32
directions. Yes, Moldova will be if you need00:18:34
it important to hear protected by00:18:37
the end of this war but00:18:40
[music]00:18:42
any other former Soviet republic00:18:44
that has borders with the Russian00:18:46
Federation will become the arena of a new00:18:47
offensive in the near future This is what00:18:50
this big Russia will look like00:18:52
Vladimir Putin wants or00:18:55
Russia itself wants to establish it Samara the Russian people want to restore it00:19:02
believes all this is Russia. I also00:19:07
just want to explain to you that it has always been like this00:19:09
and in the Soviet Union it has always been like this. The00:19:11
Russian people have always believed that they live00:19:13
in the Soviet Union and this is all Russia.00:19:17
People who lived in Ukraine or00:19:19
Moldova believed that Yes, they live in the00:19:22
Soviet Union. The Union is their homeland, they live00:19:23
in the Ukrainian USSR, Moldavian00:19:29
And this is not Russia. The Soviet Union is not00:19:33
Russia. Thus, during these00:19:35
decades of life in the Soviet Union, we00:19:37
radically diverged from the Russians00:19:39
living on the territory of the RSFSR, for them the00:19:42
entire Soviet Union was Russia, but for us,00:19:45
Russia was only The Russian Federation00:19:47
and this, I would say, is a civilizational00:19:49
abyss that arose not in 1991,00:19:52
but as a result of the development of the Soviet00:19:55
Union itself, it cannot be filled. It00:19:57
could not but lead to war and this war00:20:00
cannot be stopped except by a military00:20:02
victory over the Russian Federation and the00:20:04
understanding by its inhabitants of the fact that their00:20:08
further expansion could lead to a00:20:09
nuclear war and the death of Russians in the00:20:11
European part of Russia, if there is00:20:13
no such danger they will00:20:15
continue to fight. Therefore, I believe that00:20:17
our country should join NATO in00:20:19
Moldova. I am not obliged to recommend this,00:20:21
because if our country joins NATO00:20:23
then the republic of the young will be between two00:20:25
countries members of NATO, of course, it cannot00:20:27
then cherish its neutrality or whatever00:20:29
it wants, it doesn’t matter at all, it is00:20:32
important that it is then in the European Union00:20:34
Because they are Ukraine and Romania and the00:20:36
sponsors of its security,00:20:38
but if we talk about countries that are not00:20:41
so lucky how Moldova in your country is00:20:44
really lucky You have this00:20:45
Degenerate00:20:47
pseudo-state formation00:20:49
annex You have a problem00:20:53
but you do not have common borders with Russia00:20:56
advantage this is an important advantage00:20:59
if let’s say Gagauzia didn’t have a00:21:01
common border with Russia it would be00:21:03
worse00:21:05
You see00:21:08
in this past But it’s not going anywhere, it’s00:21:10
dragging into the future But when you know a00:21:14
common border with Russia, the past00:21:16
can come to you in a tank,00:21:18
and why is it that the00:21:21
Gagauz population lives in the past and is so afraid of00:21:25
NATO You can understand this fear, not00:21:27
only Russian Propaganda, of course00:21:29
I can because the population of Gagauzia is the00:21:31
population of the former self-proclaimed00:21:33
Republic as part of00:21:35
all these projects of the Soviet00:21:38
leadership00:21:40
Gagauzia was one of the points that00:21:42
was invented by the then Soviet00:21:44
leadership during the time of Mikhail00:21:45
Gorbachev in order to not allow00:21:48
Moldova00:21:50
to be one of the republics that00:21:53
defended their sovereignty for00:21:56
this reason in order to contain these Republics,00:22:04
such projects were invented, because even00:22:06
then everyone had already gone their separate ways. You see, I00:22:08
recently just reviewed the00:22:11
press conference of00:22:12
Mikhail Gorbachev and the leader of other00:22:14
former Soviet republics regarding the00:22:17
creation of the Union already somewhere in November00:22:20
1991, when they were negotiating the00:22:22
creation Union treaty is signed00:22:26
Yes And that's who was there there was Russia there00:22:30
was Kazakhstan there was Belarus there was00:22:33
Kyrgyzstan there was00:22:38
Tajikistan and there was00:22:47
Georgia00:22:49
Azerbaijan Armenia00:22:57
was not there00:23:00
and Mikhail Sergeevich said that the President of00:23:02
Uzbekistan Islam Karimov wanted to00:23:04
fly in but somehow felt bad00:23:05
I00:23:07
just felt bad, I felt bad, and00:23:09
note that three decades have passed with a00:23:12
slight correction,00:23:15
those who wanted to create a00:23:18
renewed Union are closer to Russia and00:23:21
those who didn’t want to are already further from00:23:23
Russia.00:23:25
There are circumstances related to the00:23:27
politics of Armenia,00:23:29
but you will see that it’s not easy everything with00:23:31
Moscow now is connected with00:23:34
the politics of Turkmenistan.00:23:36
This is understandable, but in general the configuration00:23:39
remains the same; Ukraine and Georgia and00:23:43
Azerbaijan and Armenia, in general, now00:23:46
both Moldova and Uzbekistan, let’s00:23:52
say they treat their sovereignty with00:23:55
reverence from the very beginning.00:23:57
Although these are very different countries, Uzbekistan00:24:00
Already then a dictatorship was becoming, Moldova00:24:03
was a democratic country even then with00:24:05
different parties with competitors. Well,00:24:08
then this whole wonderful idea was developed00:24:12
concerning the need to00:24:16
turn the Republics that00:24:19
want to be a free state into00:24:20
disabled people.00:24:23
This idea, as I understand it, was liked by Mikhail00:24:25
Sergeevich, its ideologist was00:24:32
So I I remember very well the00:24:35
meeting00:24:38
with Anatoly Ivanovich Lukyanov in the summer of00:24:41
1991.00:24:44
Igor Nikolaevich Smirnov spoke in detail00:24:46
about what happened there00:24:50
since he was one of the participants in00:24:52
this meeting of the leaders of the00:24:54
self-proclaimed entities00:24:58
and Anatoly Ivanovich told him and all00:25:00
this leader00:25:02
that soon we will restore order, you00:25:05
need to prepare and at the time of this00:25:07
meeting, Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev came into this office00:25:09
for several sessions.00:25:11
So for me, everything was clear who00:25:13
came up with this and who is doing it,00:25:15
and it00:25:17
is clear that Gagauzia, on the one hand,00:25:20
was part of this plan, on the other hand,00:25:22
it was the only region that00:25:23
was able to be reintegrated throughout in the00:25:26
post-Soviet space throughout the entire post-Soviet space, not a00:25:29
single problem was solved;00:25:30
Georgia was solved, but at such a00:25:32
price, at the price of what is going on or00:25:34
integrated, but Russia’s influence in this00:25:37
region remained because even from the00:25:39
time of this pseudo-sovereignty, the00:25:41
residents of Gagauzians have the opinion that00:25:45
Moscow is the sponsor of sovereignty00:25:48
and national self-preservation, which00:25:51
is not true because Look00:25:52
what is happening in Gagauz when I was there in the00:25:55
90s, I saw there a sincere desire00:25:57
among people to learn the Gagauz language, they were00:26:00
surprised to discover their00:26:02
civilizational ties with Turkey00:26:04
and as a result, often Which region00:26:06
is Russified what with in the Gagauz language,00:26:09
what about the Gagauz national culture?00:26:12
Why do the Gagauz people speak Russian to a much00:26:15
greater extent than the00:26:17
Romanian languages?00:26:20
Why are they, so to speak, not Stalinist00:26:24
because practically everything possible was done00:26:27
to preserve this territory00:26:30
precisely as a center of influence of the civilizational00:26:32
Russian world? I really hope that in the00:26:34
future In a young democratic Moldova00:26:36
which will be part of the European Union,00:26:38
all effective steps will be taken00:26:40
to preserve the white00:26:42
Gagautian national dissent, we are00:26:44
also interested in this because in00:26:45
Ukraine there are also many Gagauzians living,00:26:47
much smaller than in Moldova. But these people00:26:49
They have, of course, autonomy And if there00:26:53
were a really00:26:55
functioning cultural and autonomy00:26:58
group in the Republic of Moldova, this was00:27:00
important for universities around the world and00:27:03
who live in their autochthonous00:27:05
territories in Ukraine, but you00:27:07
see that how the00:27:09
situation is actually developing,00:27:12
you see that the deputies of the People's00:27:13
Assembly of Gagauzia they go to meet with the00:27:16
Russian ambassador. It would be better if they still00:27:18
saved Turkey; they met; this is00:27:19
really what would save their00:27:21
identity, but they don’t think about it.00:27:26
Russia won’t disappear; what to do when00:27:31
building any kind of relationship; a00:27:33
big wall and a ditch with crocodiles;00:27:37
joining NATO is absolutely not it is necessary for00:27:40
Russia to somehow disappear, it00:27:43
really will disappear, I00:27:45
repeat once again, it is necessary for there to be a clear00:27:48
consciousness of the political leadership of00:27:49
Russia, the Russian people as a whole, that if00:27:52
you00:27:53
put your fingers in a socket you will get an electric shock,00:27:55
there are no other possibilities00:27:58
to stop this, I have00:28:00
never said that even if00:28:06
we reach the00:28:08
Ukrainian border of the 1991 model, our00:28:12
internationally recognized border00:28:14
will be nothing more than a00:28:15
demarcation line for the Russians and they00:28:18
will still consider our territory a legitimate00:28:20
target for their attack and because they have00:28:23
formally annexed part of our territories00:28:25
to themselves this Crimea is the00:28:28
Donetsk Lugansk Kharkov00:28:29
Zaporozhye and Excuse me the Kherson00:28:31
Zaporozhye region this and the fact that they do00:28:35
not consider our entire territory to be Ukraine,00:28:37
but what should be done so that this00:28:40
Democratic line really00:28:41
becomes the border for Russia to enter00:28:44
or temporarily receive such00:28:47
security guarantees00:28:49
from the United States Great Britain00:28:51
who received Sweden Finland, that is, so00:28:53
that it is clear that there is a00:28:55
danger of a big war so that a big00:28:58
war stops big Russia, if00:29:01
this does not happen then the war will happen again, then00:29:03
again I will not promise you00:29:05
the security of Moldova because I will00:29:07
say then the Russians can00:29:09
appear at any moment in the south of Ukraine, you00:29:11
will also have to think about what00:29:13
your statehood will be like in the coming00:29:15
decades, but NATO is a Panacea. Well,00:29:19
until Russia decides00:29:21
that nuclear war is possible. But we00:29:23
can count on you and I that they will00:29:25
never make such a decision. Well,00:29:27
then it will not be a luxury, it will be a00:29:29
simple border that Finland has,00:29:30
which there is more with Russia, there is a00:29:33
border with the Kaliningrad region, which00:29:35
Lithuania has00:29:37
with the Kaliningrad region with killed00:29:42
everyone, there is a border with Russia,00:29:46
not a single tank will cross this border00:29:49
because it a00:29:51
conflict of a completely different level,00:29:54
if we can do this,00:29:57
then of course the question of00:29:59
the security of the countries of the Caucasus and00:30:02
Central Asia will arise. In this sense, of course, it00:30:05
would be very desirable for00:30:06
Georgia00:30:09
and Azerbaijan to join NATO,00:30:12
for Turkey to become a sponsor and00:30:14
driving force for joining NATO. Azerbaijan00:30:16
is by the way Azerbaijan could have been a very good size,00:30:19
accepted into NATO and00:30:21
accepted over Sweden,00:30:23
and then Russia would not have had an00:30:26
unprotected border, the civilized world00:30:29
then said that all NATO countries want to00:30:32
crush it.00:30:34
What difference does it make what they say?00:30:37
You know, when they talked about who00:30:39
theirs is? -he wants to crush and there was a world, you00:30:42
could listen to all this nonsense seriously, but it00:30:45
seems to me that you want to00:30:50
shoot a predator who is climbing your00:30:53
chicken coop, a bear who is running through the forest is00:30:55
tearing you apart Well,00:30:57
let’s admit it We want to shoot00:30:59
this bear so that he ran through his00:31:02
forest and our fields do not climb and alone If we00:31:05
speak in the terminology of Russian folk00:31:07
tales, yes And what is bad00:31:10
for us is not necessary for the bears to die,00:31:12
let him sit in his den and not crawl out of00:31:16
his den from the forest where he lives because of the00:31:19
forest If all- name the exact00:31:21
geographical term Vladimir, which00:31:23
denoted Vladimir's Suzdal00:31:24
principality But let him sit there00:31:27
and we don't want anything else while the bear00:31:29
behaved peacefully had to sit at our00:31:33
table, even if he didn't behave very neatly, so to speak, he00:31:35
knocked honey on the00:31:39
table, ate with his paw, pawed,00:31:44
you know, he looked absolutely creepy, but00:31:48
we could still tolerate it after00:31:50
the bear tore your leg off, but we have a leg and a hand00:31:52
so that it’s bad if we want to say we do00:31:55
n’t want bears to come to us00:31:57
anymore. Well, let him think that we want to00:31:59
crush him, that’s his problem, but I’ll00:32:02
say it again these are such progressive things,00:32:03
that means Europe is the security of the Caucasus and00:32:07
further we need to work on the security of the00:32:08
Central00:32:11
If this is possible, of course, I’m not sure But00:32:14
nevertheless, this is also some kind of if we00:32:15
cannot achieve security guarantees there,00:32:19
then of course we are leaving00:32:21
Kazakhstan to be devoured by Russia,00:32:24
first of all Kazakhstan because00:32:27
other Central Asian countries do not have00:32:28
common borders with Russia, but they may00:32:31
arise if Russia passes Kazakhstan,00:32:34
I’m not joking now, this is not some kind of00:32:36
phantasmagore that I00:32:38
’m telling you, I’m telling you00:32:39
consistent plans, you’ve seen00:32:41
this plan for the elimination of Belarusian00:32:43
statehood by 2030,00:32:46
which Western journalists found00:32:49
I assure you that such plans exist00:32:52
for each of the former Soviet republics, it’s00:32:55
just that there will be different time frames,00:32:57
but I think that in 2036, relatively00:33:00
speaking, by the time00:33:02
Putin’s presidential powers expire, everything should be00:33:04
over,00:33:07
the year should become president from all of00:33:09
this00:33:10
The crown of the quarries all this but then immediately00:33:14
the grave won’t have time to enjoy it00:33:18
so he needs not to enjoy he needs to00:33:20
soar in the Empire to enter the history of Russia00:33:22
Like Peter the Great he is considered00:33:24
then there will be a grave Well,00:33:27
or the Mysterious staircase take off As00:33:30
they say in Russian poetry, but it’s00:33:33
important for him to end with this precisely this, so that in00:33:37
the history of Russia it would be absolutely obvious00:33:39
that Ivan the Terrible Peter the Great Catherine the00:33:43
Great Vladimir the Great there are no prospects00:33:53
crazy I would like to remind you that00:33:54
if not my diagnosis but the diagnosis of00:33:57
Vladimir Vladimirovich and his00:33:59
compatriots and then I say again00:34:02
I do not at all claim that this will happen No I’m00:34:05
telling you about intentions, there was00:34:07
an intention to take Kiev in three days, we00:34:10
have an intention, you understand. If you are00:34:13
impotent, you are dating,00:34:15
let’s say, a beautiful lady, or00:34:19
let’s be politically correct, with a handsome young00:34:21
man, and then when in the end you00:34:25
think that violence is better than Consent,00:34:29
but it turns out that you cannot00:34:31
fulfill your intentions. Well, then how do you00:34:34
act like a normal person?00:34:36
Rapists are impotent with a shovel handle.00:34:38
The truth is, well, this is ordinary. Labor weapons of00:34:41
the Russian security forces with weapons,00:34:45
this does not mean that you will achieve your00:34:47
goals. You can’t have a child born this00:34:49
way; the truth is, the handle is not the best a00:34:51
means for fertilization,00:34:55
so I’m just telling you clearly that00:34:58
no, this doesn’t mean that this will happen,00:35:01
there is an intention, I think that Russia00:35:04
will overstrain itself on this, it00:35:05
won’t succeed, I generally00:35:07
think that00:35:08
you know, I do00:35:11
n’t want to be politically correct00:35:14
again, I generally think that Russians00:35:16
are crazy As a nation, Russophobia00:35:22
they have such a historical opportunity00:35:24
as a nation In 1991,00:35:28
which was given to it by all of us people00:35:30
who sought to destroy this00:35:33
Soviet Union, the Russians are now for the first time in00:35:36
history a majority in their own country, an00:35:39
overwhelming majority from 75 to 8500:35:42
percent,00:35:45
this did not happen in the Russian Empire00:35:47
this did not happen in the Soviet Union they00:35:49
were never in the majority00:35:51
It would seem that you have a huge00:35:54
national state a00:35:56
huge national state with00:35:59
huge reserves of oil, gas and00:36:03
minerals what an amazing Civilization00:36:06
you can create you can create a00:36:10
prosperous democratic country00:36:11
rich successful developing finally00:36:15
able to master Siberia Far The East,00:36:17
which you could not master00:36:19
because you were involved in this empire. You00:36:22
can provide excellent00:36:24
opportunities for the development of your00:36:25
national minorities, bearing in mind00:36:28
that on the one hand they are not a00:36:30
threat to your existence because there are00:36:32
few of them, and on the other hand, how00:36:34
diverse you can to be a civilization00:36:37
Buryats Kalmyks Tuvinia Khakass Adygeis00:36:42
Karachais Balkars this is amazing00:36:46
Simply00:36:47
amazing cultural diversity00:36:49
which at the same time does not threaten you as national00:36:53
powers from the point of view of the development of your00:36:55
identity and sovereignty,00:36:58
but only complements your00:37:01
development opportunities No damn, instead00:37:04
we will die in the steppes of Ukraine00:37:07
by the thousands simply because we want00:37:10
them to also consider themselves Russian, but00:37:12
in fact, in order to simply00:37:13
have another piece of territory, we will00:37:16
spend all our energy gas00:37:19
reserves in order to feed a group of00:37:20
corrupt idiots led by00:37:22
Putin, just a gang of Chekists, we will00:37:25
definitely prohibit teaching00:37:28
national languages in schools of national00:37:31
minorities of national republics00:37:33
so that there is only one language, Russian, as00:37:35
if if a person who lives in00:37:37
Tatarstan knows the Tatar language, he00:37:38
will become disabled, we will burn00:37:41
Ukrainian books. When we come to00:37:43
Ukrainian cities, so that00:37:45
no one speaks another language, that is,00:37:48
instead In order to develop into the future,00:37:51
we are trying for all nations to jump into this00:37:55
cauldron of tar, what kind of Russophobia is this not00:37:59
actually the biggest most00:38:01
obvious concrete Russophobes themselves00:38:04
are the Russians themselves, if a person00:38:07
cut off everything he had between his00:38:09
legs and runs around and shows it to everyone who00:38:13
can’t be called a supporter of00:38:15
his own development? You see, here’s a00:38:17
Russian person. Now an ordinary person looks00:38:19
exactly like this. This is how he looks, maybe he00:38:22
thinks that he is a knight in shining armor,00:38:25
he looks like a man with cut off00:38:29
cuticles,00:38:35
why did you cut them off, what did you want to00:38:38
say, what is it that00:38:42
the West has won with you? garages we won’t give it to anyone00:38:48
idiotic Prokhanov already understand you need to00:38:51
think from the heart if he00:38:53
once had it No he’s messing around some00:38:55
Donetsk is celebrating some kind of00:38:57
anniversary there and says I’ve been in Wars all my life And00:39:01
who started these wars why are you blades in00:39:04
Afghanistan you were in the war in Afghanistan00:39:06
it's that the Afghans may have00:39:08
attacked you on the idiot here you are now in00:39:11
Ukraine it's the Ukrainians who attacked you on the00:39:13
idiot passage Where are you going00:39:15
old man why do you even think you've00:39:18
lived your whole life just like a00:39:20
freak00:39:21
mocking torture tormenting rapes other00:39:24
peoples who did not want to see and00:39:26
hear you00:39:28
began to00:39:29
finish Ukrainians00:39:35
when he is inspired to write00:39:38
well But if there is another such Consent with a00:39:41
psychiatric diagnosis if you then the00:39:44
writing is inspired by another00:39:48
feeling of a cannibal Lyuda Lyuda How is this00:39:52
cannibalism but00:39:58
what can I say among these people00:40:01
my youth passed00:40:05
It’s good to treat Vital because education00:40:08
or that this is a hopeless situation, a00:40:12
historical dead end, there is no hopeless situation00:40:14
in history, if we all00:40:16
manage to defend our sovereignty,00:40:19
fence off this border of the00:40:21
civilized world from Russia, force them to live00:40:23
peacefully for some time, then a00:40:26
generation00:40:28
and the next generation of00:40:31
unfortunate Russians will change in the words of the film, the00:40:33
17th chapter of spring, they will no longer run into00:40:36
the square after hearing Heil Hitler00:40:38
or Heil Putin in general, they00:40:42
actually00:40:48
count on the fact that00:40:51
they live in their own country. That’s exactly the same00:40:54
as for modern00:40:55
Russian people in Finland Poland These are00:40:58
other countries in the same way for the00:41:00
Russian people of the future other00:41:01
countries should be Ukraine or00:41:03
Moldova or Kazakhstan I assure you that in00:41:06
the twenties of the 20th century Poland was considered the00:41:08
same natural part of Russia as00:41:10
Ukraine is today00:41:11
Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Molotov at the session of the00:41:14
Supreme Soviet of the USSR where discussed00:41:17
the joint Soviet German reprisal00:41:20
against Poland called this state00:41:22
the ugly children of the Treaty of Versailles is00:41:24
about the same thing that00:41:27
Russian officials are now saying about Ukraine00:41:29
What is the difference between the words from among Mikhalych and the00:41:30
chatter of his grandson Nikonov or00:41:34
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin himself about00:41:36
Ukraine There is no difference, but a00:41:38
modern Russian person00:41:39
has no doubt that Poland exists and the fields00:41:41
exist, the truth is the same applies to00:41:44
Finland, the same applies to many00:41:46
other countries,00:41:48
modern Russians do not see point-blank00:41:50
any Tuva. But I am sure that00:41:53
Mongolia exists. And those Imagine what if you00:41:55
read today Just got off on the wrong foot00:41:57
and annexed not only that water and00:41:59
Mongolia, such Mongolia would00:42:00
not have been in his head, this is all a00:42:01
political historical question, and if Tuva00:42:04
ever becomes an independent00:42:05
state and the possibilities for this00:42:07
still exist, given the national00:42:09
composition of the population of this, then for a Russian00:42:11
person there will be no future for00:42:12
Russia there in Kyzyl and he will be very00:42:15
surprised for some reason he sees Sergei Shoigu with a00:42:17
saber drawn00:42:19
in command of the Russian army The00:42:22
West does not want to collapse Russia00:42:26
I generally think that this is a strange question00:42:28
What does the West do not want The West has somehow00:42:30
generally fallen apart in history00:42:33
or maybe the West has collapsed the Soviet Union00:42:37
The West00:42:40
is guided by the values of the values of00:42:43
the world democracy normal human00:42:45
life This is what it wants00:42:49
and everything else is conspiracy00:42:51
theories that are inflamed in the00:42:55
brains of Soviet former Soviet people00:42:56
and Russians that someone wants something00:42:59
education is not enough00:43:03
on What do you want if there was a00:43:04
civil war here war twenties of the00:43:06
past Capital and there was an artificial00:43:09
selection of idiots because all those who had00:43:11
the opportunity to somehow not just00:43:12
read Mom washed the frame of a00:43:15
new coat and everyone was simply00:43:17
killed by00:43:19
you Vitaly Portnikov appeared on this00:43:22
meager district soil After how long00:43:24
knee-deep00:43:26
And then I I want to remind you of another very00:43:28
important thing: I didn’t appear in Vyazma, but00:43:33
in Kiev00:43:35
in Ukraine there00:43:37
was always a different situation. For the00:43:39
simple reason that00:43:41
we were not a country that00:43:44
went through the Russian civil war, but a00:43:47
country occupied by the Bolsheviks. Yes,00:43:49
we had purges of destruction, but00:43:51
nevertheless this there was a slightly different situation from the point00:43:53
of view of00:43:56
artificial selection, you understand in many ways00:43:59
it takes a long time to explain why, so to speak,00:44:01
Russia after the Civil War and Ukraine00:44:03
after the Civil War These are other00:44:05
countries Why Ukraine had not so much a00:44:07
civil war as a Russian-00:44:09
Ukrainian00:44:10
But these are different things occupied00:44:13
territories socially develops differently00:44:15
than the00:44:18
state in which the00:44:20
followers of evil have won. Well, then again, I don’t00:44:22
think that this is my great00:44:24
merit; many people appear somewhere. We are00:44:26
talking about an array of social00:44:28
consciousness and an integral creation. I was born00:44:31
in the country. If we talk about In Soviet00:44:33
Ukraine, for the majority of its inhabitants, the00:44:36
homeland was not Ukraine. The Soviet Union was00:44:39
different.00:44:40
I always tried to protect my Jewish identity and my00:44:43
commitment to Ukrainian00:44:44
statehood.00:44:45
For many of my00:44:47
compatriots, it was very important to hide00:44:49
their Jewish origin. Everything00:44:50
connected with Ukraine was defined by a00:44:52
word that was still incomprehensible to me.00:44:54
nationalism which I still read00:44:55
some Russian liberals Ukrainian00:44:58
nationalists what does this mean Bandera00:45:03
Ukraine00:45:06
is good but the idea was very00:45:10
simple in creating a Ukrainian00:45:11
state00:45:13
it is not a national idea it is a00:45:15
state idea Well by the way in the history of the00:45:19
organization of Ukrainian nationalists there00:45:20
was certainly a period when they wanted00:45:22
this the state was ethnically00:45:23
pure in the thirties, when was the00:45:26
state generally imagined like this? When in00:45:29
Poland they discussed the resettlement of00:45:30
millions of Jews to Madagascar00:45:32
somewhere so that the Polish state00:45:33
would be ethnically pure and when there were00:45:36
percentage standards for admission to00:45:38
educational institutions in Poland for Ukrainians.00:45:42
But it was such a time and such00:45:46
ideology of a specific00:45:49
political force But in general,00:45:51
Ukrainian nationalists are considered to be everyone00:45:53
who believes that Ukraine should be an00:45:55
independent state. That is, people00:45:56
whose views are no different from the00:45:58
views of the inhabitants of France or00:46:00
Italy or Russia itself. I always00:46:03
remind you that we are not nationalists,00:46:04
statists, we simply remind you.00:46:06
that we live in a country of state00:46:08
traditions that are rooted in the00:46:10
past in which there was and could not00:46:12
be any Russia.00:46:15
The first mention of Ukraine00:46:17
in Russian chronicles is not about Russia.00:46:20
Ukraine in its current geographical form00:46:27
dates back millennia,00:46:29
millennia,00:46:31
the use of the term itself. I’m not even00:46:33
talking about ancient Russian statehood00:46:35
in In Kiev,00:46:36
even if the Russians came up with this00:46:39
myth about the cradle of three fraternal peoples,00:46:41
they should have asked how00:46:42
Ukraine was designated then. Why00:46:45
Ukraine mourned its princes in00:46:47
Pereyaslav. And I’m not even talking about the fact00:46:50
that millennia have passed since the00:46:52
First Kiev pogrom carried out by the00:46:54
troops of Vladimir Suzdal Prince00:46:56
Andrei Bogolyubsky when the00:46:58
squads that came from the north of00:47:03
Zalesye, in fact, it was not yet such a00:47:07
Russian00:47:08
burned Kiev, raped the people of Kiev, killed00:47:17
our churches of Sofia00:47:19
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temples when Andrei Bogolyubsky was killed00:47:29
in the chronicles they stated that the hatred of00:47:32
him was so strong that even his body was in the00:47:36
church suffered by a foreigner,00:47:38
but what was the name of this foreigner, Kuzmischik and00:47:41
Yana00:47:43
Kuzma,00:47:45
it was clear to the people of Kiev This was a00:47:49
stranger, not not a local, not for00:47:52
whom This whole land was not the Motherland from00:47:54
Kiev Well, he was already treated as a00:47:57
person from a00:47:58
distant country,00:48:02
and I repeat this, too, for a long time, the division00:48:05
happened A thousand years ago, what are we even00:48:08
talking about and what do several mean?00:48:10
Centuries of our coexistence in one00:48:12
empire before a millennium of separate00:48:15
existence of a nation of their different00:48:17
civilizational development, this again00:48:20
can be considered nationalism. These are00:48:21
just attempts to explain why these are different00:48:23
states, look, Ukraine is reclaiming00:48:25
Crimea is reclaiming Donbass00:48:27
Lugansk and you have several00:48:30
million00:48:31
citizens who are not00:48:34
pro-European and remember the war. The00:48:40
European Vector of Ukraine will be a00:48:42
big question.00:48:45
I think that we need to solve problems. The00:48:49
first problem is the00:48:52
exit of the Ukrainian armed forces on the00:48:55
border of the international prize border of00:48:57
Ukraine. The00:48:59
second problem is the post-occupation00:49:02
sonation. I believe that a large number of people00:49:05
who00:49:06
are now in the occupied00:49:08
territories00:49:10
may not want to live in these00:49:12
territories at all if these territories00:49:14
again become Ukraine; many people there are00:49:17
waiting for the Ukrainian army in both Crimea and00:49:19
Donbass. I assure you that many people00:49:22
will accept the entry of the Ukrainian00:49:24
armed forces in Donetsk Lugansk in00:49:26
Simferopol in Sevastopol as00:49:27
liberation this is what you saw in00:49:30
Kherson you will see And in Donetsk and00:49:33
Lugansk00:49:35
and in Simferopol and even in Sevastopol00:49:38
it will be exactly so clear that there is a00:49:41
certain part of the collaborators, but00:49:44
they will not stand there with flowers, a00:49:45
certain part will stand there with00:49:47
flowers, no doubt, many00:49:49
collaborators will already have00:49:54
specially blue and yellow flowers somewhere in their cellar00:49:57
so that they can run out00:49:59
first00:50:03
and this will be about half of the00:50:05
population who now says that they are00:50:07
for Russia,00:50:08
some part of the population will simply leave for00:50:11
Russia itself, these will be representatives of00:50:13
the occupation administrations, people who00:50:15
committed00:50:17
war crimes, overseers of00:50:19
constitutional camps, all of them simply00:50:21
will not be00:50:22
there, some part of the population will remain00:50:24
unconditionally with their views.00:50:27
Well, firstly, it will not be very00:50:29
honest compared to everyone00:50:31
else. Who will have to live there00:50:33
to understand,00:50:35
firstly, people who are waiting for Ukraine,00:50:38
secondly, professional people00:50:41
who will simply share the views of the00:50:44
majority for the sake of a career for the sake of a comfortable00:50:46
life, thirdly, there are a lot of young people00:50:49
who, I assure you, are not configured00:50:51
like the older generation.00:50:54
Well, fourthly, those people who00:50:56
will really adhere to00:50:57
similar views, the question will be whether they have00:50:59
political representation so00:51:02
that these views can be realized00:51:04
will the Ukrainian state, after the00:51:07
end of hostilities, activate the00:51:09
communist idea, pro00:51:12
-Russian chauvinistic ideology is prohibited00:51:14
if possible, we are faced with the problem of00:51:16
artificial separatism, which00:51:18
emerged as the occupation of the Ukrainians. So00:51:22
I don’t see any problems with decupation here at all00:51:24
territory, it is clear that there00:51:28
needs to be a deal, reorganization,00:51:30
cessation of the work of Russian Media in00:51:33
these regions, the00:51:34
resumption of teaching the Ukrainian00:51:37
language and other subjects, the return of00:51:40
Ukrainian education, so that the inhabitants of the00:51:44
regions now occupied by Russia00:51:46
have equal rights, in order to00:51:48
work in the public service, in00:51:50
order to study, this is all clear, a00:51:52
special one will be needed the approach of Crimea in00:51:55
order to return the Crimean Tatars to their00:51:57
national home so that if00:52:00
certain forms of autonomy are preserved in Crimea00:52:02
that are prescribed by our00:52:04
Constitution, these would still be forms of00:52:05
national representation of the00:52:07
indigenous peoples of Crimea and not the essentially00:52:11
Russian autonomy that Crimea was before the00:52:13
occupation of Russia It is clear that a00:52:15
sensitive attitude to the rights of national00:52:17
minorities is necessary, since this is precisely part of00:52:19
our00:52:20
integration into Europe, and here Russians are00:52:23
no different from Hungarians. Bulgarians or00:52:26
Poles are ethnic; they will have the same00:52:30
rights as other national00:52:31
minorities in this country. So I don’t00:52:34
see it at all. no problems And if00:52:36
you look00:52:37
at the integration of Transnistria, the composition of00:52:39
Moldova also don’t see any problems,00:52:42
I don’t see any problems either00:52:46
because I say again the00:52:49
whole problem is Transnistria under Russian00:52:52
occupation, let’s00:52:55
imagine a situation when the00:52:56
Russian army disappears there and00:53:02
some part of the population leaves to disband,00:53:04
again in Russia which - part00:53:07
of the population remains ends00:53:09
Propaganda00:53:11
that for00:53:13
decades determined the existence of00:53:15
Transnistrian people00:53:17
instead of the00:53:19
authorities who are subordinate to Moscow, a00:53:22
leadership appears forced00:53:25
to be interested in the problems of the regions of the00:53:27
region which is no longer free00:53:29
Gas00:53:30
which needs to solve social00:53:32
problems that need to interact with the00:53:34
Central authorities in Moldova I don’t know00:53:36
how the problem is Transnistria I don’t think00:53:39
that there00:53:40
must be some kind of solution related to00:53:44
some special status of this region,00:53:46
you understand Gagauzia as an autonomous00:53:48
entity meant the existence of00:53:50
some special national00:53:51
component that needs to be preserved and00:53:54
Transnistria regions can be00:53:56
united by the corresponding regions of a00:53:57
young single administrative whole I am00:54:00
a supporter here00:54:01
They are people who they think that it is necessary00:54:04
to create some kind of Federation is unclear. For00:54:06
what reasons, I assure you that everything00:54:10
will change very quickly,00:54:11
not immediately, not in a year, in 10 years, firstly,00:54:15
many people will leave if Moldova00:54:18
becomes part of the European Union, they will not00:54:19
just leave for Transnistria in the00:54:21
European Union because they will receive we have00:54:24
completely different social prospects,00:54:26
many will begin to diffusion of the population,00:54:29
many people who live in Moldova00:54:32
may move to Tiraspol for various00:54:34
reasons because there will be work, there will be00:54:36
some educational projects there,00:54:38
something else will begin, what00:54:40
happened between West and East00:54:42
Germany but on a smaller scale00:54:45
I understand perfectly well that for00:54:47
some time in Transnistria there may be00:54:49
people who will adhere to a00:54:51
pro-Russian view. If you00:54:52
eliminate the influence of the Russian media on them,00:54:54
you will have to00:54:57
abandon the party that preaches00:54:58
anti-Moldovan ideology, this is also an important00:55:01
solution to the Transnistrian problem is00:55:04
inseparable from the cessation of the activities of00:55:07
political forces that promote00:55:09
reintegration00:55:12
Yes, how Ukraine banned the00:55:14
Communist Party and other similar00:55:15
organizations Of course,00:55:18
I won’t name these parties for you, you00:55:20
know everything well if I’m not going to solve00:55:22
these problems for you, but yes, the political00:55:24
forces that advocate the00:55:28
disintegration of the state cannot00:55:30
work for it territories Let him00:55:32
work in Moscow, in fact, remember00:55:34
when Igor Dodon took all his00:55:37
practice Socialist faction for00:55:38
consultations in Moscow they should have00:55:40
stayed there didn’t stay00:55:44
in Chisinau they have no place in Chisinau00:55:49
democratically00:56:02
if Moldova joins the EU before00:56:05
Ukraine how will Ukraine react to this00:56:11
I think that we can00:56:13
only stand up together, like young flasks.00:56:16
But if your country has00:56:19
such luck, it seems to me that00:56:21
I don’t think that we should be00:56:24
offended in any way about this. Every new00:56:27
state in the EU is strengthening our00:56:28
security, creating a more efficient00:56:30
market in our borders and so on and so forth00:56:32
you will forgive me first solve00:56:35
your problems00:56:40
We have the last section of fortune telling00:56:43
called00:56:45
No I didn’t come here Not from any deck I00:56:48
know how to tell fortunes on the Tarot but I’m not sure about the Tarot00:56:51
but I’m not sure that I’m even ready for this00:56:52
practice on air I'll help you fortune telling00:56:56
with a book Boris Grebenshchikov's book 70000:57:00
pages choose a number00:57:03
write on such a scale00:57:06
Lord choose page one I'll00:57:10
read four lines to you00:57:14
4500:57:16
what will my musician friend tell us about the future00:57:29
knows a lot of funny things my00:57:32
musician friend is not like ordinary people he00:57:36
builds a chord from what he sees00:57:37
around him and he says that this is a Divine00:57:40
sound,00:57:42
not even a prediction of the future,00:57:54
you see, for this you need to have delusions of00:57:56
grandeur, to decide that this is for yourself, we00:57:58
will consider this to be said inside00:57:59
your section for years Thank you very much00:58:01
Good luck Glory to Ukraine00:58:04
to heroes00:58:06
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