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Mr. Bilk Thank you very much for

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coming, glad to see you again In the rain

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So the new package of sanctions introduced by the

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European Union is already the ninth After 10

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months of war, we see that the European Union

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bans engines for drones as

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well as Russian propaganda channels,

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only now many are now

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confused What does this mean just yesterday?

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it was normal to broadcast

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conditionally on Channel One And now

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it’s not normal

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I don’t think they were received normally

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Work on sanctions in the European Union This is a

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complex process, they can’t just be taken and

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introduced, they need a legislative

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framework, they must be legally

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justified, this is a gradual process And

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of course sanctions have begun on larger

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scale things which could be

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dealt with without delay, all this is

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working gradually. Therefore, I think you

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will see even more sanctions packages,

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but perhaps more importantly, a structure has now been created

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that makes sure that

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sanctions are actually applied, because

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accepting completion is one thing, but

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applying them is quite another.

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What are the difficulties with application?

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The difficulty is that the sanctions

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really work in different

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jurisdictions, for example, with sanctions that

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relate to technology, we must take into account

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that the Kremlin will definitely invent a scheme

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to bypass them; they will open

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companies in other countries, export

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in different directions, and in the end

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the technologies will end up in Russia. Although there

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should not be structures there who will

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monitor this, there will be no back

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weekend, but work in this direction

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is being carried out.

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Materials have recently been published. Russia

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is circumventing sanctions, including, it seems, the

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rapper’s agency published an article about

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how Moscow is receiving Western technologies,

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they are doing this with the help of a Turkish

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company. But here the details begin already

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there are different ways to get what is

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prohibited What do you think Mr. Bild

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Is it possible to control

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these loopholes

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I don’t think it will ever be possible

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to control it one hundred percent we know

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examples such as Iran and North Korea

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or older examples such as the

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Soviet Union all these countries

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schemes were created to circumvent sanctions,

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in some ways they succeed. But if the sanctions

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work 80 or 90 percent, then

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over time the effect will be

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dramatic. You know, our conversation with you

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for me is a kind of summing up

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the year if we are talking about sanctions and

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their effectiveness How can you

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evaluate them? Many people have doubts about the

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activities of the world, which the

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West accepts because Putin is still in his

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place and is waging a war against Ukraine,

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the invasion has not stopped and sanctions have

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not stopped anyone, what is the point of

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introducing

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sanctions then? This is only one of the

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political instruments they cannot work on

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their own and cannot give an immediate

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effect, they work as part of a set of

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solutions in the long term,

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first of all, we need to work so

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that Ukrainians can defend themselves and the West

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must help them in this in every

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possible way, which is what is happening

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now, sanctions reinforce this message

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they are preventing the Kremlin from restoring its

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military power and the economy that fuels this

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war, but it will take a week and not a month.

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It will take a long time and

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another clarifying question on Russian

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propaganda channels, which are now

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banned. After 10 months of war. Why do

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you think no one paid attention to

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what they had? all this time there was a license to

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broadcast in Europe. Some of them

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still have a license

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in the United States. I was recently in

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Washington and watched Artie to find out

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what nonsense the other channels were showing there. I

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admit I didn’t know about them, they

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existed because they had very

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limited effect on a very

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limited audience, perhaps they should have been

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banned earlier, but now it has been done

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well. In recent days, several

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landmark publications about the war have been published in them,

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suggesting that Russia and Putin will

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act even more aggressively in the

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coming months, that perhaps at the beginning of

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next year there will be another attempt at an

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offensive and the capture of Kiev along with

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other Ukrainian cities Do you agree

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that Vladimir Putin’s goal remains the

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same?

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I have no doubt that Putin’s goals

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remain the same, but it is likely that there

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are people in his circle who

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are trying to tell him this will not work,

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so Let’s set a more realistic

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goal, but I doubt that Putin

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will buy this. Everything points to the fact that he is busy

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building a new army because the

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army that he built in 2009

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failed miserably, now with the mobilization and

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training of hundreds of thousands of soldiers, we don’t

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know exactly how many there are. There is no

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doubt that he is in some kind of at this moment

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will try to organize a new large-scale

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attack on Kiev and Ukraine this winter

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or spring, the

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European Union is preparing for this, it is increasing support for Ukraine, the other

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day it was decided to allocate another

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18 billion euros, now support from

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Europe is already more than from America America

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supports more in the military part of

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Europe more financially, other

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countries, too, South Korea and Japan give

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millions to support Ukraine, the

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main efforts are devoted to this, as well as the

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supply of generators and other

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necessary things for a

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state of emergency during the bombing of Kiev and

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other cities

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to protect themselves and the European Continent

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all this time Ukraine surprised us, we

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know for sure that the Kremlin expected a

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fairly quick defeat of Ukraine and,

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frankly speaking, Western intelligence said the

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same thing; they believed that the Russian

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army was much more capable and

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powerful than it turned out to be; they

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actually underestimated the scale of the Ukrainians

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and their ability to resist; I think this is how it

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remains; now the Ukrainians

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are becoming even stronger their defensive

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capabilities are growing and Russia is becoming

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difficult if

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what the troops in Ukraine are becoming,

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of course the war has changed the world

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fundamentally. And not only in Europe we

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have seen an incredible increase in

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transatlantic cooperation,

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for example Finland, Sweden is joining

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NATO and we see this all over the world, we are

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seeing Russia leaving the world

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community and becomes a poor

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state and we observe how Ukraine is changing a

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few years ago Russia

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Ukraine were of course not the same but

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were friendly towards each

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other and now Putin has made of Ukraine

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a kind of anti-Russia about which he himself

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spoke about the security of Europe

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now means the security and

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stability of Ukraine these are fundamental

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changes that in the long

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run will cause huge damage to Russia

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due to the thoughtless policies of President

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Putin But in addition, we will see many

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other consequences of this war over the

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next few years

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in relation to the Russian authorities and Putin

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if we look at his achievements

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this year you will not it seems that he proved

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his power by the fact that the whole world is because of

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him. Now it’s true. He achieved

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that the whole world paid attention to him and

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now will write his name in the

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history textbook. What do you think about this? He definitely

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wrote himself into history. I agree with this.

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but if the whole world is upside down, then Russia is at

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the bottom and the rest of the world is on top, this is what

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he clearly did not want, his actions after

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February 24 led to a long period of

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economic and political disasters

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for Russia, it is very very difficult

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to assume that this will end well for

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Putin, it is not at all unfortunate for Russia

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when I last saw you

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here in Riga, you told me that

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you had met Putin several times and

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know him personally, you can explain this

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Obsession Why it doesn’t stop

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Although, of course, he understands that the forecasts

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for him and for Russia are disappointing,

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why isn’t he trying to find a way out? I

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wouldn’t say that I know him, but I’m trying to

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understand him. According to some confessions, in

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recent years it has become clear that he has become

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obsessed with his own version of

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Russian history, he wants to remain in

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it as the Heir of Ivan the Terrible, Peter I,

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Catherine II, and someone else there, he has become

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obsessed with Ukraine. to some extent we

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saw this in 2004 during the

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Orange Revolution we definitely

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saw this in 14-15 and we see it

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now he simply cannot accept

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that Russia does not control Ukraine He

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is afraid that he will remain a failure in history

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if he does not return Ukraine I

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I think that he will go down in history as a

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catastrophic failure and the last one

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next year Sweden

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will chair the European Union

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is of course an important status that it will change

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for European policy towards

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Russia Ukraine and the entire region is an

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amazing thing If you remember

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the beginning of the year or the very beginning of the Russian

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invasion many then they said that the

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countries of the European Union are split, not

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united enough and are not doing enough, but the

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European Union has shown amazing

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strength and unity during this year,

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if you look at Sweden's program in the

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European Union for the next six months, you

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will see that it reinforces this trend, the

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Swedish government itself is significantly

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increasing support for Ukraine and sets

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its goal It is better to coordinate this

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support, both military and mainly

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financial, do not underestimate it, this is

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item number one on the agenda of Sweden and the

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European Union for the next year.

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We hope so now there is a problem

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with certification from Turkey, but

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there is no doubt that Sweden, Finland will

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literally join NATO the other day, the Swedish example

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was quickly discussed in Riga with other

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prime ministers about cooperation in defense

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and we are glad to see you at

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