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continues special radionve firms My

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name is Oleksiy Tarasov and now the

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editor of

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the publication our money Yuriy Nikolov is joining our live broadcast, it is

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Yuriy Nikolov who is the investigator who

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published the contract of the Ministry of Defense, which

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deals with the purchase of food at

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inflated prices Mr. Yuriy I welcome you on

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the air Good day Good day

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Good day everyone, so we have Now it's almost a

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week since the publication of your

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article, on the morning of January 21, it was

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published in the edition of the Mirror of the Week,

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today we have 27 Well, it's almost a week and we've

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seen such consequences. I think it's

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interesting, on the one hand, we have the dismissal of

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two people from the Ministry of Defense who was responsible

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for procurement, that is the director of the

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Procurement Department, Bohdan

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Khmelnytskyi, and we also have Vyacheslav

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Shapovalov. Well, he resigned there

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himself, as noted, he

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was responsible for the rear support of the Armed Forces.

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we have lived a week and I am

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living now in the mode of incredible

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emotional swings, we are moving from the betrayal of

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hate to the state of Victory of

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euphoria and Unfortunately, today is already

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today, on Friday, I am coming to you

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already with inclusive information with fresh

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news, we are again moving into the state of

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betrayal because the Ministry of Defense

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decided to preserve its brazen scheme.

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So, the

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initial heid when well, everyone was afraid, including me, I

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was afraid that the story

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is risky and in Russian they can

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use it against us for our

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discredit, fortunately, all this did not

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come true, fortunately, the personal Joe Biden, the

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US State Department, the government there In Germany, Mr. Scholz,

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everyone else confirmed that we teach the rules

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correctly. We received public praise

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for the fight against corruption, for the attention of

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society to, including the army, this is

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actually quoting the US State Department's

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statement.

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We received permission from Abrams. We received

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permission for leopards.

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to get

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weapons, well, get out. Maybe they even give

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some help, now I thought that

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now we will talk about corruption, and

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that will mean Well, it all means that we

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will not be supported by our partners.

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our story was not about corruption, but about

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the fight against corruption and all Western

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partners. They are not morons, they

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understood everything normally, because the money was not

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stolen, we worked in

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anticipation and did not publish the story

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there before the meeting in Rammstein, well, to be there, at least

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not to harm something there so that

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no one is overly frightened, the money is not

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stolen, and that is, well, from this side, in the

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pluses and the West very correctly shielded

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the main message in Ukraine, they are fighting

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corruption. And why did the West constantly call us to

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the gatekeepers with corruption, the West invested in the

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creation of a nabu there sap Vaks, that is exactly in the

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creation of those bodies that are supposed to

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fight corruption, and here there was a

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demonstration that the government will visit the

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wall - they are fighting this, that the government instead of

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opening a case of treason

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against the people involved in

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the publication of this information, that is,

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instead of the state from our side, the government

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left on the dismissal of the Deputy

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Minister of Defense and the executor of this

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contract, it was an absolutely positive

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story and that is what the

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story of the fight against corruption in Ukraine is called.

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Finally, we are starting to write it.

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The Ministry of Defense

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will preserve it, so can you

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please tell me in more detail?

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Today I see it with the people's

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deputies who were at the meeting of the

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anti-corruption committee of the Verkhovna Rada,

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at the meeting with Reznikov the day before yesterday, it

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turned out that Mr. Reznikov

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said right then and there that Shapovalov actually

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resigned to save the

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situation Well, after conducting some kind of

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official investigation there, he

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can even absolutely return to work,

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that is, Mr. Reznikov absolutely sincerely

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convinced everyone that there is nothing there. What’s

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more, Mr. Reznikov hid from the

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people’s deputies

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data on the actual price of purchases, that is,

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he refused even to the people’s to the deputies to

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immediately come and show the acts of

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acceptance of the transfer of goods, this is not even a

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contract within the framework of which you already know in

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fact that a truck with products arrives at the

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military unit and everyone has to

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sign there, I gave you 500 g of

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potatoes and a thousand eggs, and these are the funds of

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such people - the amount of money is actually

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1000 kg, but we remember that

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it is not measured in kilograms

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[laughter]

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the minister amused all of Ukraine and the whole

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world in a very noble way, that is, I actually

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read in the Western changes certain

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hints about the peculiarities of our soldiers.

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This means that he refused

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to show them these acts of reception of

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transmissions, the deputies there will try to get them somehow

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Well, because this is necessary for actual

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confirmation, if the minister tells you

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what, you have normal prices,

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normal deliveries, then why

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hide it, so show it and all the

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questions will disappear. Well in fact, even I

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personally will have absolutely enough to

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look at those acts of acceptance of the transfer and

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tell everyone, you see, at such a

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price, eggs were delivered, and there it

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will be written: If there is a kilogram,

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you will be there and it will be a kg, but the main thing is that we

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will see the price of the potatoes that are eaten there all the

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soldiers, we will see a whole pearl millet, will it

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be there, as in the food contract of

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the Ministry of Defense, will it be hryvnias, or will

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there be 15 shops, we

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will simply see everything, everything is clear and you know, in fact, the

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investigation, the execution courts will take place in

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one second, the defense does not want to

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do this And what's more, the bad news is

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today's news, I was informed that the

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source is connected with the government

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quarter, the name is like that Well, I'll

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just quote it to you, hello, we have such

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news, the Ministry of Defense will now

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purchase rations, the purchasing unit

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will now not even be a service,

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but a ration That is, what is it about that the

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contract will now not even have these prices

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for individual potatoes, they will simply indicate the

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price for some rations Well, for example, the menu

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What kind of day is the soldier, but according to the menu there, number

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two should eat 100 g of boiled

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potatoes, there is something else or something it is even

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good If there is even a gram It will

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simply be written that he will eat

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such and such, then it will be somehow prepared there

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and it will cost, for example, 150 UAH They

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all want to hide this cost from us so

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that you know the

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stupid questions Mr. Yuryu Maidan also

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talked to one of the members of this horse of the

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Committee on Anti-corruption Policy

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Viktoriya Syumar, a people's deputy, was on the

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air with us. She talked about

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several things and, on the one hand, she

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talked about the positions that

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were in that contract. It's interesting that,

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let's say potatoes, they were overpriced,

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and let's say sturgeon Are pineapples at an

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undervalued price, the only problem was that there

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were no sturgeon and pineapples, so you buy

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potatoes at an inflated price, that's the first thing, that's it, that's the

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explanation. Yes, that's the second thing.

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well, it is

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food for the military and what is there. Well, there

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is no frost. I just

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quoted. This is the answer to the

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initiative of the people's deputies. The people's deputies had a

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good initiative, right. This is what I

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just quoted to you. This is already the answer

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to the initiative of the deputies so that if you

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want to open the price in the catalog, you

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know at there will be no catalog at all, now there will be

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some kind of ration

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in which it is simply not decipherable that

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we are naborons buying potatoes there,

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sturgeon eggs Well, nothing at all, yes, just

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some ration, all the rations cost some

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money and we will sit and look at

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each other, so who is normal or

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not normal to look at on the picture there And what

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did the soldiers eat there, think it is normal for

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him, the price is not normal, we will

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compare there with the prices of the Belly House or the

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installation, which Well, who gives food and then

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people will think Well, it is probably

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normal, well, yours there, well, it costs 140 UAH I am

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Puzatii Khati for 200. I ate lunch there. There is another

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such moment. There is another such moment. Do you

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remember that the

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article was published on Saturday?

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did

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everything possible to prevent this

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scandal from becoming public, that you

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sent requests to the Ministry of Defense and

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sent the article itself to the president's office, that's how we were

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told at this meeting, Viktoria Syomar, I am

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referring to her words,

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Mr. Reznikov said that he this

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article was sent to him only two hours

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after it had already been published,

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and what if he had known earlier, of course

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he would have reacted to this remark. How do

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you evaluate it? Well,

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look, I don't know. Whether it's true or not,

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he said that he had no confidence in the minister

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who does not want to show how you receive

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transmissions, I do not have uh, that is, I will believe

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the document,

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the request was sent, moreover,

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after the material was published, the

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editors of the Mirror of the Week contacted the

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Ministry of Defense and asked to

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submit that request again,

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and to submit a new request, they provided the

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same address to which we had already

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sent them, well, this is Sorry, some kind of advance, I do

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n’t want to comment on

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stretching the minister for Well, for his some

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explanations, it doesn’t matter what is important, the

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acts of acceptance of the transfer And here is the second

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half of mine. Unfortunately, the bad news

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for today, which now turns out to be the

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Ministry of Defense it goes to the

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fact that from the expense invoices, according to

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which goods are received in the

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military units themselves, the

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cost of the products was taken away, that is, now it will

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appear there What, uh, we brought you 500

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tons of potatoes There are 10 kg of uh, legs and that's

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all That is, there is no money,

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that is, they just want to hide, if

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they want to hide the money, this shows,

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as far as I am concerned, only one thing: they want to

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leave the scheme untouched so that the

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money will actually go through it now. That is, it is

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his, it is a very bad story. We

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talked before, I am talking about

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We are telling the whole world

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that our publication was

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Well, the time of it was chosen exactly so So that the money was

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not spent yet, so that no one in the world

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would suspect that we were there, er,

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some kind of theft had already taken place, because from

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February 1, well, at the earliest, the money should have gone

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and unfortunately, the Ministry of Defense works.

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When they say to him Let's do this,

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this will lead to such advantages, talk

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only about the fact that they, in fact, on the contrary,

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keep this scheme and there somewhere in the dark,

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how to chase these billions into their pockets. This is

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very wrong, it is very bad, and I

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I hope that the people's deputies will hear our conversation. Why are these

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messages heard now,

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but the most important thing is that we are heard in the

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government and in the president's office, that is, those

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points where decisions are made and have an

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influence on the Ministry of Defense.

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very wrong Well, because

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it would be a very simple story if

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we just saw these purchase prices

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transparently. Well, transparently, or there was just

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such a sign hanging there that there

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were no addresses of military units or

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volumes that would be delivered there. Nothing, not

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even a supplier, can be e- the company should

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not be made public, but simply there is a

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sign of the Ministry of Defense

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with purchase prices as of January 25

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or January or February. It says such and such a

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car. Price such and such. The price of

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eggs such and such a price. So that anyone, you and I,

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Biden Shol, could enter the this report.

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Look at what the purchase price is there and

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say Oh, there is no corruption in Ukraine. Okay,

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because you googled these prices in

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Silpo, well, it’s not Newton’s Bean, but even

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more. Well, as far as I know, we have started

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checking

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food prices there for all law enforcement agencies in

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I have information about the price level of the

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State Border Service, that is, from the

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same soldiers who are fighting in the nearby trenches of

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the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they are actually cheaper than in the

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store at that store’s markup.

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its existence, well, that’s the way it is.

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The Ministry of Internal Affairs, it’s so easy for them, it’s just

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another department, just another

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department, it’s a completely

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different price policy and doesn’t arrange

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dances with tambourines for egg sets. There are

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some kilograms. Well, all this

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nonsense.

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I hope that it’s such a normal thing.

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somehow they are scaling up the Ministry

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of Defense and no one will have these false

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suspicions, and there, well, I am someone’s sister.

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Very sincerely, your story. Well, of course, we also

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see such an informational attack on you

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personally and that you are a traitor working

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for Moscow to the Kremlin, the agent of the Kremlin has

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probably been here for a long time, well, on Radio NV,

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there are no doubts about your

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reputation, but there is such a moment that was

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brought to our attention by

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our viewers, and here it is about the

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fact that the same document that you

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published was so published On January 21, in

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the mirror of the week that about three days before

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and it was before Rammstein,

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such a blogger Vasyl Kruchak appeared, moreover, it

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means on the air of such a YouTube channel in

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Iceland, he showed it and discussed it

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with his co-host there, there are not many

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views, something like 8,000 views, but here

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in Why is it an interesting thing? Well, first of all, the

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Iceland channel itself belongs to a

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political technologist, Volodymyr Petrov,

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according to our data, at least since the

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middle of the 21st year. So, he cooperates very closely

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with the president's office, and we

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understand that this is the same document after

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all he, er, let's talk

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directly, he appears at Rammstein. And

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it seems that everything was voted out as well.

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How do you assess this situation? We

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understand that the same source could have

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provided different journalists with er, what do you

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think about it? I'll tell you again I can add

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a conspiracy theory, I can tell you right now,

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look, we, we, we turned

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to the president's office about this story much

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earlier than it was published, well, much earlier than

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it came out, but we will record this thing on YouTube.

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later, honestly, I

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also found out the day before yesterday, yes,

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no, well, of course, they told me this right away on Saturday,

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Kurchak himself, somewhere,

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the comments got out, he said, And here I was

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earlier there, something, well, earlier Then, earlier here,

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your problems, I don’t know when he got it. To be

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honest, I'm sorry, the program is not like

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that, I didn't find time to look at it,

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but it completely misses what the source could have

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scattered, well, this Contract. Well, the source

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that was looking for it just happened to be, well, the

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source told me personally, Yura, look at the

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price of the contract, and not the prices that are there.

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please bake this phrase,

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that is, when I looked, yes, I understood, I

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understood why my source was lying. Well, this

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was emotional for me, exactly one such

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criterion, which when I understood Well, with this, we

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have to go to Public But before that, let's

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go to the president's office. Well, there was a

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leak from the president's office. Maybe something else,

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even more so, was also opened before my

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publication. I already had a contract there,

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so I, uh, and this Contract, by the way, is not

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some kind of Bean Newton. And it's not, in fact,

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it's the same tender contract which was

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concluded there, well, the touchstones

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were published transparently, that is, they are very

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simple. Such a thing, er,

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economic contract, you know, there is no

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secret

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element, no, in fact, it is a very simple thing, it’s

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just that now

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the publication of this is classified and it has been transparently

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removed, but as far as I understand it does

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n't even have those numbers on it, it's a

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state secret Well, that is, it's the most

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ordinary piece of paper that was there before, that's why they could

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scatter, they could play

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their games, anything, anything could,

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who arranged what kind of things there I

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just had one simple thing if

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these the money will really be stolen under these

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contracts for food, we are talking about

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billions of hryvnias, about such a pile of billions of

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hryvnias that I understand that this is already an

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undermining of the country's defense capabilities, with these

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billions you can buy a bunch of cartridges for

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Mavic guns, which are despised by the

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administrative officials in order to kill the

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enemy if We we don't buy these weapons or

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we will feed the soldiers with some kind of

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crap,

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then I'm sorry, we will lose the war Well, I'm

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actually afraid that we can lose

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the war, everything that does to the weaker

00:18:30

actually kills, that is, I'm completely

00:18:34

aware of the fact that Let's put it this way, the euphoria that

00:18:38

exists in relation to the situation at the front Well, it's

00:18:42

really not the time. Well, it's not so

00:18:46

good. Well, the war is still going on, yes. And there's no

00:18:50

such thing as us running and winning if it's

00:18:52

all over there in 2-3 weeks. No, the war

00:18:56

will be long, it will be exhausting and

00:18:58

we will need every billion that we

00:18:59

can get somewhere, if for these

00:19:02

billions that will be stolen, someone

00:19:04

just buys a new Lexus or Mercedes,

00:19:06

it will not help the defense capability of my

00:19:08

country, you understand absolutely, but I'm sorry, I

00:19:12

want to ask again, I remember asking you

00:19:14

for this question there Sunday still passed and

00:19:17

you told me that there was a request from

00:19:19

the Ministry of Defense and to the president's office, and there they did

00:19:22

not answer you at all, in the sense of

00:19:24

no reaction at all, not consistently,

00:19:27

neither in both places there was a

00:19:30

very opposite reaction. Let's say this, after

00:19:32

communication with the president's office, I was

00:19:34

plus- Minus satisfied Well, because I understood

00:19:37

what, well, you know, before when we

00:19:40

report something, well, even more so, I, who

00:19:42

wrote about big thefts for many years,

00:19:45

that is, before I met only a

00:19:49

negative reaction, now there was no such thing.

00:19:50

Well, I can say yes, I was heard,

00:19:53

accepted, and well and understanding from

00:19:58

the Ministry of Defense, the reaction was somewhat. Let's put it

00:20:00

this way. Unfortunately, it was different, because a

00:20:02

day after we sent the

00:20:05

request from the Mirror of the Week, the

00:20:08

soloist of the Ministry of Defense came out with a

00:20:10

warning that

00:20:12

fake news is being prepared against us. Well, I

00:20:16

absolutely accepted it. on account of the fact that

00:20:18

they understand what we are preparing an

00:20:20

article about, they understand that it

00:20:24

will be trouble for them, well, for the stomatitis,

00:20:27

which was probably sewn up there, and

00:20:31

they tried Well, it is possible to

00:20:33

discredit our history in advance, well, fortunately,

00:20:36

I will say that people are smart, Western partners

00:20:40

are smart they understand that they plus one

00:20:43

equals two uh egg kilometers there, well, it is

00:20:49

impossible to explain the whole thing here, especially when

00:20:52

you talk about eggs but do not talk about

00:20:54

potatoes for 20 hryvnias and they are in the store as a

00:20:56

guest,

00:21:57

he has everything very, very simple here it is very

00:21:59

easy to check it is a

00:22:02

commercial secret Finally, Mr. Yuri,

00:22:05

you have already mentioned the former

00:22:08

director of the Procurement Department of

00:22:10

the Ministry of Defense, Bohdan

00:22:11

Khmelnytskyi, and Deputy Minister

00:22:13

Vyacheslav Shapovalov. Do you expect

00:22:17

criminal proceedings? Are you not

00:22:19

so naive? there

00:22:25

is already an investigation, but it

00:22:27

was opened, and I repeat even before the release of our

00:22:29

publication, so I think that the detectives are

00:22:32

absolutely

00:22:33

on the subject of what happened, who

00:22:37

ran where, and what they did when, well, it became

00:22:41

known to everyone, will there be any result of this

00:22:45

investigation, I know, I

00:22:49

think that you should not expect that it

00:22:53

will be there in two or three weeks, that there will be a

00:22:54

victory or a betrayal. Well, let's say this, to

00:22:59

trust the nabu, this is possibly one of the

00:23:02

last things that I would like to lose, and

00:23:04

so far I have no such reasons to

00:23:06

believe that they are not there they can

00:23:08

sell the case, as there are absolutely all

00:23:11

other law enforcement agencies that are in

00:23:13

Ukraine

00:23:15

now, they are very, very effective, Mr.

00:23:18

Yurii, I'm sorry, please, we

00:23:19

have run out of time, we have news to listen to, yes,

00:23:21

Yuriy Nikolov, the editor of the project, our money,

00:23:24

was in touch with us right here,

00:23:25

subscribe to the radio nv channel here

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