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Channel: Игорь Яковенко

Игорь Яковенко

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journalist Igor Yakovenko, hello.

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I just said that the

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title should reflect this

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formulation of Putin’s turnips. Vladimir Putin,

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speaking to the Russians in front of

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the community there, said that in Europe there will

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soon be such a famine that they will

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eat only turnips But this is such a free

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interpretation of the quote, but the meaning is

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approximately the following: Do you think

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this is for whom everything is Putin himself Believes

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that Europe will starve or

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starve at the moment

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Yes, no, of course

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Putin has reached such a level of

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relaxation Or, more precisely,

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bordering on dementia that

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to take his words seriously, but

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some words when he spoke Answering the

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question about

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what Putin said, what does it

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mean if there are no problems, then you can go to

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bed And at the same time grunt,

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all this was accompanied by mad laughter from

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those around him, but apparently someone

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commanded him when in what you have to

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laugh here because everything that

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Putin says is really some kind of thing,

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he feels completely

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relaxed, he understands that Hmm, any

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audience, if it’s a Russian audience,

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it will either eagerly listen to his words, take it down

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there, or, so to

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speak, if it understands that it means

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the owner is joking, then they will guess and

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giggle and applaud Any

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stupidity that he says, this leads

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to this kind of, I would say,

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intellectual laxity that

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he demonstrates, he looks more and

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more stupid. Eh, as for who it’s meant for,

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well, for slaves. Designed for the master, he

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can

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go out to the slaves. not only in a robe, but

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without pants at all, because, so to speak, it does

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n’t matter what the slaves

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think about him, they will always think

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as they should. As for His speech

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before the Russian Sp.p., the main message of this

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speech was the famous

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famous slogan from The Master and Margarita

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hand over the currency, citizens hand over the currency,

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that is, I am addressing those

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on the Forbes list, millimeter

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dollar billionaire, who sat in

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the hall and who ate with His eyes

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[music]

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He just said that it’s

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time to share everything. So

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with a special military operation, this will take

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a long time, as he explained, and so you

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get used to it citizens are billionaires, bourgeois,

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that is, in fact, the period of NEP

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has ended, the period of not quite

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military communism has begun, but something similar.

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That is, everything means

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sales, layout,

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revolutionary military law, allocation

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means give us currency That’s all, I don’t

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remember there, some amount seems to have

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been called How Much How Much less

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tax on oligarchs,

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of course, no oligarchs at all, just

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just a sum So they will have to, of

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course they will dodge, of course they

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will try to somehow avoid Well, I

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think that they will fleece you like a stick, but this is the

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last financial reserve that

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Putin can use, that is, take

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from a large company the company has some money, he

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has some other levers of opportunity. That

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is, where to get money for the war

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because as I understand it, problems have already begun with the oil and gas

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sector. The pot is

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not that full of money from the

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national welfare fund, they are

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also actively pulling out money now they have begun

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to demand here's business, let's

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share, and where else can Putin get

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money for war? There is an even more serious

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lever and an even more practically

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inexhaustible reservoir, but this is really a

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resource that will lead to a fairly

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quick

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collapse. This is to

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replace the economic bloc or simply

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force the economic bloc of

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the government to do that. what they don’t

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want to do but just turn on the printing

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press what kind of problems yes that is how how is this

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required by

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television economists there like it means

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all sorts of delyagins who are there

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Khazin there is also an eye there is that is this is the

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concept of military communism

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multiplied by the

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printing press

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[music]

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They always envy the United

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States of America, they say that the reason for the

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power of the United States of America

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is that they print

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dollars and a whole series of these guys.

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So I once again call their names

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conventionally and of course Delyagin

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and that means this very little eye but little eye

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Lately, less has been heard, but

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nevertheless, he is from the same circle, they are convinced

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that the United States of America and its

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Greatness is based on the fact that they print

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money, print dollars, and we also need to

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print rubles, print a lot and

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distribute them everywhere and sell everything everywhere

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for rubles, that is, people,

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I don’t know, I specifically looked. So, when I

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worked in the State Duma as a deputy, I was so

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amazed by the wild ignorance of some of

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these people who then manifested themselves there

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in particular, I was a deputy, also in the

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first year, I specifically looked.

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Yes, indeed, a doctor of economics

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sciences and so much people don’t understand what

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economics is,

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people have such wild views that

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they really think that everything can be

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screwed up, screwed up means

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making the entire economy about the state and

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turning on the printing press and everything will be

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fine, that’s it,

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so to speak, Putin is still

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resisting this because that Putin, after all,

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He probably understands that if you remove

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it from the economic bloc and

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put a team of these guys in the state bank, so to speak,

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then the country will not

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last long, but I think that this is the

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last resource that can be

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used, and Mishustina Nabiullina

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Silanov are strong players in Putin’s

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team That is, those who are now involved in the

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financial sector are,

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for me, it is absolutely obvious that these

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people are actually

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saving the Putin regime from

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economic collapse. They were the ones who

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were able to protect the Putin regime from

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sanctions

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because sanctions really

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work, of course they hit, they have a

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long-term impact, but all

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the forecasts that the regime will collapse because of

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the sanctions did not come true; the regime is worth it;

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its resources are quite large and this is

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thanks to all these guys

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who are hated and who are

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constantly being thrown with mud. Well, Mishustin is not there yet,

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but everyone else is there. They just directly

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mix real channels with mud.

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They constantly say what traitors they are,

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that they should all be shot and so on,

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but this team

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is called uh, so to speak, systemic

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liberals. Although of course

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they are not any liberals. These are

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just normal accountants who

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understand, these guys in armbands

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who perfectly understand that they

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should say so must be somehow

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brought down, it will bring the balance to some with

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some result that you need to spend Well,

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not much more than you earn,

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well, and printing money, they roughly know

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what happened to Zimbabwe, that’s who

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set a course for this

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Well, how is that We have a call, I see that there is

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just a connection Hello What is your

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name Where are you from

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Hello This is

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Natalya Turkeeva Natalya Vitalina How

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convenient for you I am from Yekaterinburg 8 I am

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very glad that I got through to

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Igor Alexandrovich I wrote to him yesterday I’ve been

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crying all day today

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because this is Yekaterinburg this is the homeland you

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understand that I am a smiley I am the back We did

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n’t help atrophy and today I

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understand that everything He won’t come out anymore I

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want to say we saw all this trial

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We but I wasn’t present but I was just

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talking to a man who was

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there at the trial and said We saw how

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this judge was replaced and he was brought here, they

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replaced him, there was no face on him for us, he

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left with the fact that he issued a fine Well,

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when he sent back, we understood everything

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that he would still be imprisoned and he says You

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don’t Believe me, I’ll immediately

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collect Pack my bags and leave, but

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he also has little boys, too, for

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whom Roizman collected 165 million

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We were collecting them for the New Year,

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they closed them and can you imagine what they’re doing in

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my country Sorry, but I’m just really

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crying and I want to tell Igor Alexandrovich

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thank you so much for his streams and

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I really don’t know what to do. I have a

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daughter in Kazakhstan now and I need to

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go to her too. I just don’t have

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money. I’m sitting now and I understand that it’s

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already scary in this country. Stay and

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so, well, even though would or says

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Alexandrovich they will advise how to continue

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to live in this country, this is the most

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adequate, we understand that the country

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is heading somewhere not in

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1937. Well, for now, without

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executions, thank you very much

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Thank

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you, such an emotional call 14 days

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for Evgeniy Rozman for the post he

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wrote because I don’t even have a VKontakte account.

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First of all, I would like to ask Natalya.

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If you have Facebook, write to me in a

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personal message. Because

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your messages may have been missed. Well, just

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think together. What can be done? I

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think I really remember your situation

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it’s very difficult and this is an

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individual situation that we need to

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come up with something I think we’ll come

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up with this first thing I

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’m just taking advantage of the opportunity now as for

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Rozman uh Rozman Hmm That’s

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how I

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practically don’t know him personally we

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ran into each other a couple of times but we also we are not

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friends, but I think that Evgeniy Roizman

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is a strong-willed man who will endure,

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he will come out, he will definitely come out,

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he won’t be broken by prison. Moreover, he

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has prison experience and has experience of survival

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and political experience of survival. So

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this is a man which cannot be broken,

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I am absolutely sure of this, as

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for the situation, it was more or less

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clear, I don’t think there was any

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surprise, Roizman actually remained

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like this

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lonely rock that still stands,

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being in Russia with such views,

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it was paradoxes therefore this was, well, from

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my point of view, expected. That is, all

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such people who remain in Russia of

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such a scale, it’s not even just a matter of

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views, this is still a figure of an

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all-Russian scale,

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not only of Yekaterinburg, therefore the fact

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that

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Putin In this purge of his, of course,

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Roizman will not bypass this was absolutely

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obvious Therefore, yes And what is very important

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I can imagine

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many people in exile, many

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immigration politicians, in fact, that’s what

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happened, but

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I can’t imagine Roizman in exile because

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this is truly the people’s mayor, this is a

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person who

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exists precisely in connection with with the

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population with his voters with

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his citizens, the person who conducted

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these receptions constantly helped people,

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so the fact that Roizma didn’t leave is not

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some kind of Peugeot 100 or Brovada, it’s

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just his natural state. I’m

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sure that he will survive. I’m sure that he

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will wait until the end of the Putin regime. what, in

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fact, I wish and Natalya and well,

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we’ll come up with something, we’ll try to do

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so that this nightmare doesn’t happen. Well,

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now we need to survive,

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preserve ourselves and survive this regime in

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your opinion. Why do you understand now

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this question is always relevant, why

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now why now it is necessary ask this

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question at any time, but nevertheless, here is

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this VKontakte post Where Roizm does

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n’t even have an account, this is presumably his

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fan club or a fan group that

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published something. Perhaps this is a fan group and there

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was no one, someone invented it and they

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give him 14 days. Why do you think

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now they decided to remove Roizman,

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including from the situation in which he

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was, he had a ban on

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certain actions, that is, he

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was already under a preventive measure for quite

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a long time, you know. I really don’t want

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to think about it and I really I don’t want

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to fantasize, but here somehow

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everything lines up very logically, and

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well, a certain logic is built in the

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behavior of the authorities for me, because,

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as you probably know, I have such a

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professional deformation. I always

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watch Russian TV because I

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am a media critic, including

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one of my own. of my journalistic

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specializations and that’s why I look at

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the TV and I noticed such a thing there,

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in particular, a very iconic speech by

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one of the most obscurantist, most

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pitch-black

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television characters, there is such a

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television general Gurulev, who

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is known for his statements of

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constant demands that Russia

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create a strait between Mexico and Canada,

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it is clear that in this case, it is necessary to drown the

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United States of America, which means that

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Russia will destroy Kiev there

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Zelensky and so on,

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and then he suddenly suddenly came out with

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completely opposite rhetoric, he

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announced that we are going to fight with

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NATO You look, you do

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the math, suddenly I remembered, which

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means Google conducted in Academy of

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the General Staff, General Burulev means that he declared

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that

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we cannot fight with NATO because we are

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many times inferior to

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assistance, which means that we need to

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concentrate, we need to take care of

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ourselves, Russia and we need to destroy the fifth

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column, we need to destroy it, we need to remember there are

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no agents there No, these are enemies

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of the people and in fact called for them to be

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destroyed

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in order to transform

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this colonial realistic

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war into a war against inside Russia

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against its own population, this was an

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idea that has actually now

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been implemented after the

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fascist regime,

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so I apologize, we have

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lost contact, I will ask the director We will

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call you back so that the sound can be restored, there are some

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slight interferences, we hope that

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now they will be eliminated, we will return to

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the conversation and just in time for the fifth colony that

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you were just talking about, the director will

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now call Igor Yakovenko back again and

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we hope that the sound will be restored.

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that the reboot will not return we have a good

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sound that was before this, ah, Igor

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Aleksandrovich, in the continuation you

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just stopped at the fact that the Fifth

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Column, which became, apparently,

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with the aim of the main goal of the Putin

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regime, as I understand it

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Well, apparently we are talking about the fact that Well,

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because to win Ukraine is clearly not

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working out. It is clear that, due to inertia, there will

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still be a marble march, talk

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about how now

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the offensive will begin, now we will take

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the bakhmut there. And then and then Washington will be like this,

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such rhetoric will be of course. But in

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principle, the understanding is that everything is in in

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general, everything is over and what to

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do in this situation is to

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fight. Well, by inertia they will fight. But

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then, what is the further plan,

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where is the BC plan, and so on, and as

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such a plan is proposed

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[music] the

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final cleansing of the country, that is,

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well, The Stalinist version, as we

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move towards the victory of Putinism, the

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class struggle should intensify and

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this is visible, this is happening.

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So to what extent this will reach

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is difficult to say, but in principle the

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regime is ready for this and

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General Gurulev called for this and calls for this and Well,

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almost all the inhabitants of

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Nightingale litter and the Skabeev studio,

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that is, well, I’m not talking about absolutely

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maniacs there like Krasovsky, that means

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Margarita Simonyan, and so on. They are

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calling for this now, that is, if And what’s more, there

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will be some kind of model,

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they need to somehow sell the defeat to

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pass it off as a victory and there are

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two ways to sell defeat, I

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can now be accused of

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suggesting to him, but I just see, I see, I

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read, they are already doing this, the first way

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is that

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Russia is not fighting with any Ukraine, it

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is fighting and is constantly now already in these

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TV programs say that there are

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no Ukrainians there. On the

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other side, you can constantly hear

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English and Polish speech. In general, there are

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no Ukrainians there. This is the first reason why

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we are at war with NATO, and the second is that there are

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traitors all around, that is,

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internal treason in the state, so

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this treason is necessary lime means

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this is the mechanism for selling a defeat

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passing it off as a victory. What does

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Victory mean in essence is that it

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means the

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pledged general didn’t take it. He didn’t take

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Moscow what he needed; he never wanted to

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take Moscow; therefore, they are silent

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about the fact that, so to speak, NATO

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was going to destroy Russia we

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failed to destroy Russia, this is

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Victory,

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that is, we defended Russia, this is

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Victory, this is the first line of defense 2, we

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have finally cleared it, so to speak, I don’t

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know, they arrested

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150 thousand

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internal enemies there, maybe theoretical,

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maybe I’m not sure about this, but maybe

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just returning to the death penalty is not

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excluded, at least here I

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can’t say with certainty, but

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this restriction is no longer there; we were

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thrown out of the Council of Europe last year, which is why there are

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no restrictions

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here. And in general, I think that this is a

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possibility. Moreover what the

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introduction of the death penalty requires is simply

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already hysterically demanding, so to speak,

00:22:02

and Nightingale's droppings and all the other

00:22:05

characters to him,

00:22:07

and the story with an American drone

00:22:10

that was either shot down over the Black Sea

00:22:14

or was flooded, but apparently there

00:22:16

was a collision with a Russian

00:22:18

fighter and appeared

00:22:20

The Pentagon has already published footage of a Russian

00:22:23

fighter jet dumping fuel on a

00:22:24

drone, so apparently they wanted to

00:22:26

damage it, what kind of episode is this? Why

00:22:29

was it needed and how can you

00:22:32

interpret everything that happened on the

00:22:34

Black Sea all week on Russian

00:22:37

TV, it is presented as a

00:22:39

grandiose Victory? there is actually

00:22:43

Well, what happened there, this drone.

00:22:47

Lonely, two Russian fighters attacked it,

00:22:50

which means they really doused

00:22:54

it with kerosene, thereby damaging its

00:22:57

sensors, and one of the fighters

00:23:01

crept up from behind and cut off its tail, as a

00:23:05

result of which

00:23:07

which is in the tail, as a result of

00:23:10

which the drone fell and drowned, it’s

00:23:14

presented as, well, it’s just that, I don’t know

00:23:18

what kind of battle there is, Kulikovo or

00:23:21

Stalingrad. That is, this is a

00:23:23

grandiose Victory. They’ve been talking about this all week, they’re

00:23:25

talking about our

00:23:27

heroic pilots, and the

00:23:30

comedy of the situation is that

00:23:32

right at this very time they’re

00:23:36

nearby a powerful American fighter

00:23:38

appeared not far from St. Petersburg, it’s the

00:23:42

fault of a

00:23:46

bomber

00:23:48

equipped with the most powerful missiles,

00:23:51

which ended up in a direct line

00:23:56

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00:23:58

at a close distance from

00:24:00

St. Petersburg and, in principle, well, in

00:24:03

general, this is where, of course, the

00:24:06

valor of the Russian pilots who

00:24:09

so to speak, they could also fly out there, I do

00:24:11

n’t know, douse it with kerosene

00:24:13

or something, I don’t know, cut off its tail and

00:24:16

drown it in the waters of the Baltic,

00:24:20

of course nothing like that happened, which means the

00:24:22

Russian pilots sat Quiet as mice

00:24:25

in their hangars, no one flew anywhere a

00:24:29

very simple reason because this

00:24:31

bomber was accompanied by

00:24:33

fighters and everyone else in general. Hmm, all the

00:24:39

pilots who and the military command

00:24:41

understood what would happen if they

00:24:44

tried to get closer to this

00:24:46

bomber, this bomber

00:24:48

flew and flew near St. Petersburg

00:24:51

and calmly turned around and went somewhere- then

00:24:53

he flew somewhere on his business, closer to

00:24:57

Spain. As far as I understand, this is a

00:25:00

very typical example of the Valor of the

00:25:02

Russian Armed Forces, that is,

00:25:06

a drone which Well, it’s clear what

00:25:09

a drone is, so to speak, in

00:25:11

an air battle, a drone

00:25:13

can’t do absolutely anything against fighters,

00:25:15

this is obvious, this means this, this is this

00:25:19

valor It is present, which means there is

00:25:22

no point in it,

00:25:24

all this happened in neutral

00:25:27

airspace, officially

00:25:29

neutral, the Russian

00:25:32

side’s explanation was that yes, this

00:25:34

space is neutral, but we

00:25:38

are doing our own thing here, so we are drawing a line in

00:25:42

this neutral airspace

00:25:44

where we say Don’t fly in

00:25:47

Why,

00:25:49

as a result of the fact that Putin had urine

00:25:52

in his head and he decided to attack Ukraine and

00:25:55

arrange a bloody massacre there? Why on

00:25:59

this basis Russia can suddenly

00:26:03

change the rules

00:26:04

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00:26:07

airspace over the planet and

00:26:10

say that this is no longer

00:26:12

neutral, this is this Danger Zone

00:26:14

where we do not recommend flying, well, it’s

00:26:16

useless to look for logic here,

00:26:18

in fact, the United States of

00:26:20

America summoned the Russian ambassador,

00:26:22

the Russian ambassador said something vague there

00:26:25

about how, so to speak,

00:26:26

we didn’t do anything, we didn’t do anything, we didn’t,

00:26:29

we didn’t take them to the ram this

00:26:32

drone was not used by weapons Well, that

00:26:35

is, I’m not me, the lie is not mine and we weren’t there

00:26:37

Well, this is the situation But

00:26:41

to use all this in the Russian

00:26:43

media space is just this, it’s just

00:26:45

such a Victoria, that is, this Victory

00:26:48

over an American drone is all

00:26:50

but this is Berlin taken in general, the war can be

00:26:53

ended because the main Victory took

00:26:56

place, an American drone fell

00:26:59

into the Black Sea, all

00:27:02

this is what You know, this can be

00:27:05

compared to how when Russian

00:27:09

troops fled from Kherson, the main

00:27:11

feat was that they stole a raccoon from a

00:27:15

local one, this is something like this they

00:27:18

were very proud of this booty and they said that

00:27:21

yes, Kherson was surrendered but the raccoon is ours, that’s why

00:27:26

the war was lost in about the same way,

00:27:29

but the drone was still shot down by the

00:27:31

Americans. This is what we invite our

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program I want to build a bridge to I

00:27:49

don’t know how to correctly formulate

00:27:51

the opposition is not the opposition to journalists in

00:27:54

general, the scandal that broke out between

00:27:55

FBK and Alexey Venediktov What do you

00:27:58

think? this story And if you look at

00:28:02

delegated from some kind of emotional

00:28:04

or moral assessment, the dramaturgy

00:28:06

was there and Apparently, Alexey Venediktov

00:28:08

dealt quite a serious blow to the

00:28:10

reputation of FBK, but this is from the outside What do you

00:28:14

think is the point of this

00:28:16

story and how significant is it? Is it

00:28:19

worth it? in general, pay attention to the

00:28:20

discussion of such topics on the air,

00:28:23

you know. Well, there is such a point

00:28:26

of view. But there is no need to take out the hut.

00:28:28

Let's all unite because we are

00:28:31

all doing the same thing, so I immediately

00:28:34

have a question. I personally don’t do the

00:28:37

same thing with Venediktov, so I’m talking about I

00:28:39

can say for sure that I am not doing the same

00:28:42

thing as Venediktov because I must

00:28:44

first clarify what work

00:28:46

Victor is doing, so I can list specifically

00:28:49

what to do,

00:28:51

he completely destroyed the elections with his

00:28:56

promotion of electronic

00:28:59

voting, these elections are,

00:29:02

so to speak, lame and in fact

00:29:04

barely they could barely move, but he

00:29:06

finally finished them off after the electronic

00:29:08

voting, we should forget about the elections altogether.

00:29:10

They were already in a very serious condition,

00:29:13

but he finished them off. I don’t know how to relate to this

00:29:17

matter, so I don’t do this business with

00:29:19

Venediktov. Venediktov created his own

00:29:22

school of journalism, and with mine point of view, a

00:29:25

destructive school that destroyed

00:29:28

Russian journalism, I was left with the

00:29:31

remnants of the remnants, despite what

00:29:35

was planted by its director, this is Lesya Ryabtseva,

00:29:37

this and uh there are all sorts of these pigeons

00:29:41

you are there and so on and so forth which That is,

00:29:44

this is a school that is actually

00:29:47

based on wild ignorance, that is, a

00:29:51

journalist should not know anything

00:29:52

should not understand anything a journalist should

00:29:55

self-confidently ask questions and

00:29:57

interrupt his interlocutor, that is, the main thing is

00:30:00

to create a scandal on air. But

00:30:04

this has to do with this. I’m not saying that this is not

00:30:08

a cost. But this is the goal of a scandal on air, this is the

00:30:12

goal as a goal, that is, to interrupt there

00:30:15

Shenderovich speaks, for example, he must

00:30:17

definitely give his word, not let him

00:30:19

finish a single thought to the end,

00:30:21

it means provoking him to

00:30:24

some kind of raised tones,

00:30:27

arrange some kind of coupling, shipka scandal, and

00:30:32

so on. This is Venediktov’s school. So I

00:30:36

think that I am not doing one thing with

00:30:38

Vinit,

00:30:39

that means

00:30:41

Venediktov was engaged in the fact that he was

00:30:44

constantly

00:30:45

promoting was promoting,

00:30:48

for example,

00:30:49

Venediktov was engaged in the fact that he publicly

00:30:52

demonstrated his friendship with Margarita

00:30:54

Simonyan, for example

00:30:56

Zakharova, for example, and so on with sand,

00:31:00

for example,

00:31:01

I’m not doing one thing as a witness. I

00:31:04

think that these questions need to be raised

00:31:07

because this is a question of the formation of an

00:31:10

institution of reputation in Russia,

00:31:12

the formation of an institution of reputation. I

00:31:15

believe that this is a very important matter and the

00:31:18

investigation that served, let’s say, as the

00:31:20

fuse for this whole story, is an

00:31:25

investigation by the FBK about

00:31:27

very large sums there, huge

00:31:31

multi-millions, many hundreds of millions,

00:31:34

sums of almost a billion allocated

00:31:37

by Venediktova actually personally

00:31:40

Sobyanin has a shadow cash desk,

00:31:44

regardless of what product

00:31:47

was made, so to speak. Well, someone thinks

00:31:49

that this is a clearly

00:31:51

overpriced product, someone thinks that it’s

00:31:53

useless to talk like that, it

00:31:56

doesn’t matter. This is actually a fact of

00:31:58

corruption, that is,

00:32:00

protect you Venediktov claims that it is

00:32:03

impossible to establish the connection between the fact

00:32:05

that Venediktov promoted Abel and

00:32:10

praised Sobyanin in every possible way and another fact that

00:32:14

he took money from him, these are the people who

00:32:17

say that it is impossible to establish this

00:32:19

connection. These people, well, they are pretending

00:32:24

because, well, you know, if a judge

00:32:27

makes some kind of unjust decision

00:32:30

and the same a judge takes money from a

00:32:34

person in relation to whom he

00:32:36

made a

00:32:37

decision justifying a criminal act.

00:32:39

But then the question arises: What is the

00:32:43

connection between these between a bribe and an

00:32:47

unfair decision of judges on this

00:32:49

issue,

00:32:50

a coincidence, I repeat

00:32:52

the statement,

00:32:56

characters I respect very much, I don’t think it’s a coincidence, but

00:32:58

this is it This is obvious, that is, in my

00:33:01

opinion. Well, you know, Venediktov’s problem

00:33:04

is that this is a man

00:33:06

who is incapable of feeling shame, it’s

00:33:09

like the hero Schwartz, who had his

00:33:13

ass skin transplanted on his face, so he

00:33:16

perceived a slap in the face as a slap, that’s

00:33:19

all about him. They told him he’s not

00:33:21

ashamed at all. that is, yes, he supported

00:33:24

electronic voting Yes, that means he was

00:33:28

promoting Sobyanin Yes, he

00:33:31

took Sobyanin’s money Well, that is, the

00:33:34

person here is completely

00:33:38

definite As for His

00:33:41

retaliatory blow Yes Indeed, it

00:33:43

was a knockout blow, he published and

00:33:46

that act which, despite all my

00:33:50

critical Ukrainian relationship with

00:33:53

Volkov But the offense that

00:33:55

Volkov committed is, of course, completely

00:33:58

incomparable with what he did. He made

00:34:01

Venediktov because

00:34:04

Volkov signed a letter

00:34:08

to the European Union, which means a call to remove

00:34:13

Fridman and Aven from sanctions,

00:34:16

I think that’s bad. Well, besides Volkov,

00:34:19

there are a lot of other people

00:34:22

under this letter was signed there by both

00:34:25

Chichvarkin and Gloznan, as far as I understand,

00:34:27

and a lot of other people with a fairly

00:34:31

good reputation, but especially if

00:34:34

we talk about reputation, this should,

00:34:36

of course, first of all, so that means

00:34:40

Volkov turned out to be Volkov’s problem

00:34:43

was that he signed as the

00:34:45

head of the chief of staff of the Boris Foundation as

00:34:52

his the team did not agree on this decision,

00:34:54

that is, he seems to have

00:34:57

let his team down, and the

00:35:00

second is certainly not a

00:35:02

conflict of interests, but a conflict of statuses

00:35:04

because he signed a

00:35:07

petition to lift sanctions from

00:35:10

Fridman and Avian, but at the same time it’s equal,

00:35:14

I don’t know for sure I don’t remember about Fridna,

00:35:16

but Aven is definitely in Tomsk

00:35:19

subject to the sanctions that were

00:35:22

issued by the Anti-Corruption Foundation, that is, with

00:35:25

one hand he calls for sanctions, with

00:35:27

the other hand he calls for these sanctions to be lifted,

00:35:29

that is, clearly so to speak. Well, there’s no

00:35:31

connection here, but wolves, unlike

00:35:34

Venediktov, immediately said First he

00:35:38

really tried to deny everything that of course they were

00:35:40

n’t painting him. Well, then he said that

00:35:42

I’m tired. I’m leaving, which means he resigned.

00:35:47

Well, in fact, he said that he was

00:35:50

suspending the political one because he was

00:35:53

ashamed. Well, in this case, the

00:35:55

difference between FBK and Venediktov is

00:35:59

obvious some are ashamed Well, or at

00:36:02

least they seem to

00:36:05

admit their mistakes, they do

00:36:10

some actions that show that,

00:36:13

in general, for them reputation is not an empty phrase

00:36:15

Venedicts No, this is, by the way, a

00:36:18

feature, a very strong feature, a

00:36:21

striking feature of the liberal crowd

00:36:24

in which

00:36:26

the institute has no reputation, so if

00:36:31

we take another borderline topic, if

00:36:34

I may, this is the

00:36:37

recent speech of Evgenia Albats,

00:36:40

who stated that when

00:36:45

the conversation started about the fact that the

00:36:47

Russian army is suffering defeat there and

00:36:51

that it is necessary to call for funding

00:36:55

so that the Russian army suffers

00:36:59

more and more defeats

00:37:02

Markovna said that no She does not agree with this

00:37:05

And she

00:37:09

You see,

00:37:11

in principle, this loyalty to the flag is

00:37:15

organic in the mouth of Solovyov Kiselyov in the

00:37:20

mouth of Margarita Simonyan, but when about

00:37:24

loyalty to the flag of which flag the flag of this

00:37:27

army of the fascist army that

00:37:29

came to Ukraine under this flag

00:37:32

to rape kill rob Well, when

00:37:36

Evgeniy Markovna Albats says this,

00:37:38

who seems to

00:37:40

be one of the banners of the

00:37:43

liberal party. Guru of the liberal

00:37:47

party and you know a word. I was

00:37:49

surprised to see not a word of condemnation

00:37:52

from the representatives of this liberal

00:37:55

party from

00:37:57

prominent democrats who the liberal

00:38:01

party is the community that

00:38:03

clustered all this time around Echo of

00:38:05

Moscow, first of all. Well, to some

00:38:07

extent, around the rain and there’s simply

00:38:11

no Institute of reputation there, there are

00:38:14

such peculiar concepts:

00:38:15

you respect me, I respect you, you and I are

00:38:18

respected people. That is, this is a special

00:38:21

special community that is founded not on

00:38:24

norms or on any rules But on

00:38:28

such concepts it is very typical But

00:38:31

by the way, this is what distinguishes the

00:38:33

liberal crowd from Venediktova and

00:38:37

Albats FBK,

00:38:39

which In general, as

00:38:42

it turns out, there are some norms

00:38:45

in this conditional liberal crowd It’s

00:38:47

just that I only know it very indirectly

00:38:51

because sometimes, of course, we look

00:38:53

there and invite speakers. There are different

00:38:56

people with completely different views. But

00:38:58

sometimes I want to understand. It’s like an

00:39:01

outsider. I’m just curious. Sometimes

00:39:02

I want to understand what kind of set of rules there is.

00:39:04

Why, relatively speaking, there are very often

00:39:07

some kind of disputes there? too

00:39:11

noble and the wording is just a hoax

00:39:14

and then some waves start on

00:39:16

Facebook, people get distracted, and people

00:39:18

who at least recognize the

00:39:20

impression of educated, respected, uh,

00:39:23

authoritative, perhaps for some, and they

00:39:26

get involved in some kind of games like pancakes

00:39:28

there, well, other not the most fundamental

00:39:31

questions How it works How it works

00:39:33

It’s an environment it’s a system Well, first of all, I

00:39:37

understand that you just used a technique,

00:39:40

so to speak, a journalistic technique

00:39:42

where the interview means pretending to be a

00:39:47

naive person who doesn’t

00:39:49

know something, you can’t at all I’ll explain, I’m

00:39:52

still from Rezhan I was born in Riga I’m in

00:39:55

general Of course we work a lot with this

00:39:58

environment, a lot of interviewers, this environment But

00:40:00

our advantage and this is our

00:40:03

naivety is that we are still people from the

00:40:05

outside and we take advantage of this, of course

00:40:06

we look in We peek, we pull out

00:40:10

something, but we are part of this environment

00:40:13

and that’s why I formulated the question. This is

00:40:15

exactly how we even deliberately leave

00:40:18

this distance in order not to

00:40:20

dive into it. Okay. I’m also not

00:40:23

part of this crowd. Moreover, I

00:40:26

very strictly distance myself from it in

00:40:29

In particular, quite a long time ago, uh, so

00:40:32

to speak, I decided not to go to Echo of

00:40:34

Moscow, back when they were, so to speak,

00:40:37

the most influential

00:40:39

in this part of the Media Spectrum. And

00:40:42

not only did I not go to Echo of Moscow, but I also did not

00:40:45

participate in the site. But that’s not the point, that’s the

00:40:48

point. the fact that you, of course,

00:40:49

pass through almost the entire liberal

00:40:52

crowd, just completely without a trace, so of course

00:40:55

you know all these people, you know

00:40:57

how they were caught, so you pass them through yourself, which

00:41:00

means, but I believe that these are

00:41:05

very peculiar, a

00:41:07

peculiar life, these are people who have

00:41:10

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00:41:12

inside them no reputation And there is

00:41:15

mutual recognition So they say Eh

00:41:19

Hmm this is of such a rather non-

00:41:23

formalized nature that is, it’s

00:41:26

somehow established that the

00:41:32

Gurus of this party that are not involved are

00:41:34

those people who have certain

00:41:37

resources, primarily media

00:41:40

resources around which and the

00:41:42

crowd is crowded, this is the Venedikts, of course this is

00:41:47

Evgeny Albats, who had a magazine

00:41:50

which was also one of the centers of

00:41:53

crystallization of this get-together, so

00:41:55

Evgeny Arbatstvo was already considered in this

00:41:58

get-together a Guru and a trendsetter, and

00:42:01

therefore she was also such a judge and

00:42:05

prosecutor who, so to speak, with a

00:42:07

prosecutorial voice had the opportunity

00:42:09

to have the opportunity to expose

00:42:12

means, well, partly in this party there

00:42:16

was also a center

00:42:19

of crystallization, so to speak, this is the TV channel Dozhd,

00:42:21

which was also certainly the center of this

00:42:24

party, one of the centers of capitalization, that

00:42:28

is, let's

00:42:29

say more than this party

00:42:31

was formed precisely by these centers

00:42:34

of gravity, media centers of gravity,

00:42:37

people who

00:42:39

mean in this party was a part of they

00:42:43

had to accept certain rules of an

00:42:48

uncritical attitude towards all the leaders of

00:42:51

this party

00:42:52

in it a decision was made about

00:42:56

who to promote and who not to promote, in

00:42:59

particular, the decision was made to

00:43:01

promote Navalny and it didn’t

00:43:04

matter at all what Navalny could do whatever he wanted

00:43:07

and talk but he was promoted

00:43:09

Navalny could talk about the fact that it was necessary to

00:43:13

bomb E Georgia they continued to

00:43:16

promote him Navalny I’m now talking about a

00:43:19

person whom I have been supporting for the last year uh Well

00:43:22

constantly because he

00:43:24

was in prison and I think uh at this

00:43:27

moment there was criticism of him it’s simply

00:43:29

impossible, but I remember how Navalny

00:43:33

was supported and so on, they

00:43:35

supported him, it was simply impossible,

00:43:37

which means any statements by Navalny

00:43:41

and on rodents and so on, at that moment there is

00:43:43

no need to remember this now

00:43:47

because he has already renounced a number of his

00:43:48

statements But then that’s all it was

00:43:50

accepted, so to speak,

00:43:53

completely unimportant. That is, he was such a

00:43:54

Teflon Leader from whom

00:43:57

everything at one time bounced off, the

00:44:00

liberal crowd simply took up arms against

00:44:03

Yavlinsky, this was at a time when

00:44:07

Yavlinsky was completely different

00:44:09

and Yes, he Well, it’s hard to blame me for the fact

00:44:15

that I can to be Yavlinsky’s lawyer

00:44:17

after I, so to speak,

00:44:20

participated in debates with him and

00:44:24

harshly criticized him a lot. But this was in

00:44:28

relation to Yavlinsky, the liberal

00:44:29

crowd chose

00:44:31

criticism for destruction, in fact for

00:44:35

destruction,

00:44:36

and this was for a number of years,

00:44:40

despite the fact that he came there,

00:44:41

which means he was given tribunes, but in general it

00:44:45

was criticism for destruction.

00:44:48

That is, these are the rules that

00:44:53

were given, the floor was given to people who, in general, should

00:44:57

not be given a floor there, for

00:44:59

example, there was always

00:45:01

some person from Crimea present, so to speak,

00:45:03

who pronounced, proclaimed,

00:45:06

brought so to speak, the occupation of Crimea, the

00:45:09

occupation Crimean regime, and so on.

00:45:11

That is, these are exactly these kind of

00:45:12

ornate rules, the goal is justified by the

00:45:15

means of organization, one of the principles of

00:45:17

this liberal get-together means Well,

00:45:21

approximately these are the rules in

00:45:25

life in this in this get-together that existed as

00:45:29

a result, in fact, I I think that this is

00:45:32

what

00:45:35

this community did.

00:45:39

I think that to a large extent

00:45:45

their role in the formation and thickening of the

00:45:49

fascist nebula is quite large,

00:45:52

and today this

00:45:56

structure of this community has changed, that is,

00:45:59

since many in exile, these

00:46:01

media resources also no longer work at the same

00:46:04

capacity as before some do

00:46:07

n’t work at all Is something

00:46:08

changing inside

00:46:12

I think no I think no of course

00:46:15

now the situation has changed primarily

00:46:18

in the sense that today this

00:46:22

liberal crowd does not have

00:46:24

that power and that monopoly on not even

00:46:29

the truth, but let’s say the monopoly on

00:46:31

pluralism is very a kind of

00:46:34

unnatural Monopoly But this is a

00:46:36

Monopoly that was created

00:46:38

jointly by the hands of Putin, who

00:46:41

destroyed everything around, burned the entire field

00:46:44

around and left only the Echo of Moscow and the

00:46:47

rain for some time and there was

00:46:52

nowhere to go and everyone just came,

00:46:56

I remember well how the Venedikts were destroyed when

00:46:58

they destroyed NTV, lost hands and said but

00:47:01

you will all come to me You will all come to me

00:47:04

because they destroyed destroyed NTV

00:47:07

destroyed

00:47:09

TV2 Tomsk TV channel was destroyed

00:47:13

all TV-6 TVS and there was nowhere to go and everyone

00:47:17

absolutely came to Echo of Moscow and everyone

00:47:20

had to endure this

00:47:22

crazy school Echo Moscow Everyone

00:47:25

was forced to endure the boorish antics of

00:47:28

Venediktov himself and the boorish antics of the best

00:47:31

students of his school, starting from Les

00:47:33

Ryabtsev, Solomin there, Golubeva, and so

00:47:36

on. That is, it’s all now there are two

00:47:39

beautiful Lizas who, so to speak,

00:47:42

are the successors,

00:47:44

there is Anikina or for Lazerson, who

00:47:48

is the continuator of Les’s work

00:47:51

Ryabtseva and the company, that is, this is, well, not

00:47:56

to such an extent, of course, there is a softened

00:47:58

version, but nevertheless the same thing. By and

00:48:01

large,

00:48:03

in the end. This

00:48:06

was built by the duo of Putin and the

00:48:12

dicta of the space of

00:48:15

such a monopoly on pluralism,

00:48:18

leaving a single window

00:48:20

that one could stick one’s head in.

00:48:22

- to say it turned any

00:48:26

Monopoly disfigures and

00:48:29

[music]

00:48:30

is precisely this monopolistic

00:48:33

existence, but ultimately

00:48:35

led to the fact that Echo of Moscow

00:48:38

became its opposite, it seems

00:48:40

like the window of Freedom of Speech actually

00:48:44

turned into something ugly. I think

00:48:46

that in In general,

00:48:47

at the moment, by inertia, these

00:48:51

people have retained the same standards,

00:48:53

although the same models of behavior, although

00:48:56

they no longer have a monopoly, although

00:48:58

much more powerful channels of information have appeared next to them,

00:49:01

well,

00:49:04

what is a school called, a school, they

00:49:08

continue to remain in the same model

00:49:10

asks you By the way, TV critic, how do

00:49:15

you feel about the breakup of the duo Larina Petrovskaya?

00:49:17

They hosted a program of a man from a

00:49:20

TV, then a man without a TV

00:49:22

after the closure of Echo of Moscow, they did it on

00:49:23

YouTube, but then the duo broke up

00:49:25

quite loudly. What do you think? How do you

00:49:29

generally evaluate this story,

00:49:31

how much is it for you? she’s interesting, you

00:49:34

know, she’s interesting, well, first of all, I have

00:49:37

great sympathy for both

00:49:40

participants of this duet and Clarena

00:49:42

Kotovsky. Although they are very different, they

00:49:45

complemented each other, so to speak,

00:49:47

Petrovskoye. Of course, with

00:49:49

her academics, her

00:49:52

knowledge,

00:49:53

her analyticalness, Larina, with her

00:49:56

spontaneity, emotionality, all

00:49:58

this was wonderful,

00:50:00

but For me, this collapse is

00:50:05

primarily of

00:50:08

sociological interest, because

00:50:10

this collapse is largely

00:50:13

provoked by the fact that the continents are moving apart, I’m a

00:50:19

Vytarian and I’m an immigrant, and therefore I

00:50:24

understand perfectly well that

00:50:27

we are gradually moving further and further away from

00:50:30

Russia every day we we can be

00:50:34

close to it geographically, but the

00:50:37

time gap leads to the fact that we are

00:50:40

moving further and further away from Russia,

00:50:41

I am trying to maintain contact,

00:50:44

about half of the audience on my

00:50:48

channel are residents of the Russian Federation,

00:50:50

people who are inside the Russian

00:50:53

Federation, but their number is gradually

00:50:55

decreasing due to the audience is growing and

00:50:59

more and more there is Ukraine

00:51:01

more and more, although for now half

00:51:03

remains I mean this because the

00:51:06

Larins who are in Portugal and

00:51:09

Petrovskaya who is in Moscow But

00:51:13

they are just very sensitive people,

00:51:15

this very quickly affected them

00:51:18

geographical location Well,

00:51:21

again,

00:51:22

every word is

00:51:25

said a word Truth spoken in Moscow

00:51:27

it weighs Well, about one thousand times

00:51:31

more than the same word with the truth

00:51:34

spoken in Portugal Or for example in

00:51:37

Riga How is it with you

00:51:38

and uh that’s why these are uh

00:51:43

different optics different conditions led

00:51:48

to this breakup, this is bad, of course, but

00:51:52

this is a logical result

00:51:55

to save this Tandem.

00:51:57

I think that,

00:52:00

well, let’s say it was impossible for these people,

00:52:03

I don’t know, maybe they

00:52:05

will gain strength and try to restore

00:52:08

this Tandem, but it’s very difficult.

00:52:10

You see, I’m a little

00:52:13

I was in Russia for months when the war started,

00:52:15

all I’m saying is now exactly the

00:52:18

same thing I said while in Russia exactly

00:52:21

the same thing,

00:52:22

well, I left Only when they came for me They

00:52:25

just physically came, I just had to

00:52:27

pack my bag very quickly in

00:52:31

time to leave before they took me to

00:52:34

prison but before that, when

00:52:38

the battle began on the 24th, we

00:52:43

actually experienced the same thing at the

00:52:46

daily magazine when

00:52:48

I was ready to continue saying

00:52:51

what I think, but a significant number of

00:52:54

people who

00:52:55

are not even journalists are

00:52:58

editors and so on simply did not want

00:53:00

it to do because I don’t

00:53:02

want to risk going to prison, I don’t want to risk it And we

00:53:06

tried, we had an attempt. We

00:53:09

got together and thought about what to do. Well,

00:53:12

clearly war, military censorship, that’s it, and they decided the

00:53:17

daily magazine was a pity, and the

00:53:21

decision was made to

00:53:23

continue publishing the daily magazine.

00:53:25

But according to the principle, the Lady pestered 100

00:53:29

rubles Yes, no, don’t say it in black and white Don’t

00:53:32

call it that is Well, well, like

00:53:34

the Soviet years when it means

00:53:37

this kind of

00:53:39

self-censorship and an attempt to invite

00:53:43

readers to read between the lines, it does

00:53:47

n’t work, it didn’t work because

00:53:50

you understand it’s like running in sacks, it’s

00:53:53

good when everyone is running in bags And when

00:53:56

you run In a bag in a bag and next to you they run

00:53:59

normally

00:54:00

without a bag, then the competition does not work

00:54:03

in conditions when

00:54:05

you eat, so to speak, I began to use

00:54:08

such Such a letter between the lines and nearby

00:54:13

there were resources, channels and media

00:54:17

that wrote everything as it was, it became clear

00:54:20

that we we can’t stand it, we stopped

00:54:22

publishing this, History is living stories,

00:54:25

what happens to people who try

00:54:28

to do journalistic work while in

00:54:31

Russia, Petrovskaya, while in Russia,

00:54:33

tried to do journalistic work,

00:54:35

Larina, while in Portugal, also

00:54:38

tried to do journalistic work,

00:54:41

they had completely different conditions

00:54:43

and that’s why Tandem the solution has disintegrated I’m

00:54:47

sorry Tandem was good and Leonid

00:54:49

Parfenov Today he continues to release

00:54:51

the other day he continues to analyze what is

00:54:55

happening in such a not even

00:54:57

historical plane because the

00:54:59

year 2022 came out. How do you assess his strength of his

00:55:03

statements because he has

00:55:05

Parfenov who is considered a style of

00:55:07

education by a person who created a

00:55:12

unique style on Russian television. That's how he is today,

00:55:14

how significant a figure he is in the media

00:55:16

world and in general as a person influencing

00:55:19

public opinion. He's still strong.

00:55:22

I don't see. Well, you know, he still

00:55:25

remains an icon; style; he still

00:55:27

remains certainly a

00:55:29

professional of high class, but

00:55:33

now I don’t see any of his huge

00:55:35

influence in comparison, you know,

00:55:38

now there’s war and now there’s an information

00:55:41

war, and now

00:55:44

completely different figures are in demand, including some who are

00:55:46

not

00:55:48

very attractive to me personally, but war, you know, and in

00:55:53

conditions of war, on an advance the price comes out to

00:55:58

completely different people, completely different

00:56:00

people, and firstly, it turns

00:56:03

out that operational information is in demand,

00:56:07

that is, Parfenov is not an information specialist. But

00:56:12

by the way, like me, the

00:56:14

second thing that is in demand is

00:56:17

different reflection and other journalism, and

00:56:22

But here Parfenov is also

00:56:25

not very up to date, it

00:56:29

seems to me, I think that the time for perfume

00:56:32

may come if it retains its

00:56:34

potential, it will not, I don’t see any

00:56:36

reason, but now there is a war and it seems to me that

00:56:40

war is the time for a little different heroes,

00:56:44

but the war has changed Russian

00:56:47

journalism as such. Well, I mean

00:56:50

those projects that deal with

00:56:52

journalism, how did all this affect

00:56:55

except for the closure of censorship, this is all clear,

00:56:57

it’s the approaches that have changed in the

00:57:01

golden canons that we were all taught,

00:57:04

for example, that there are at least

00:57:06

two sides to the conflict, but how are you going to give

00:57:08

the floor to the second side if it attacked the

00:57:11

first? Well, and somehow you already you start to

00:57:13

reconsider it all. And here’s what: What

00:57:16

has changed in this segment in this sense

00:57:18

in this segment has changed Everything

00:57:21

because you understand, in

00:57:25

war conditions, of course, the

00:57:29

approach to journalism changes, because it

00:57:32

means trying to view this

00:57:35

war as a conflict in which the journalist

00:57:37

must remain above the fray

00:57:40

Well this is at least Strange, that is,

00:57:43

but you know this This is from the series, not everything is so

00:57:47

simple, it is very reminiscent of the Peace

00:57:49

Plan of China by Xi Jinping, which seems

00:57:52

to be a Peace Plan, but in fact,

00:57:54

Putin can sign up to this plan, that is,

00:57:57

one hundred percent because in this regard

00:57:59

there is not one single point

00:58:01

that should be in order for this

00:58:03

plan to be a peaceful withdrawal of Russian troops from

00:58:06

the territory, that is, you understand, again,

00:58:09

there is street rape and now

00:58:13

try to stand up in the fight to say

00:58:15

that Well, listen, it means the rapist

00:58:19

had some reasons Let's

00:58:21

analyze his biography, he had

00:58:24

reasons, he had childhood traumas,

00:58:26

let's analyze it so to speak.

00:58:28

Let's give him the floor to exactly the

00:58:31

same extent as Well, yes, the court should

00:58:34

give the floor, but this is a court of

00:58:36

journalism. Yes, she can analyze

00:58:40

what happened to these people who

00:58:44

rape and kill in a riot, she can

00:58:46

analyze the reasons for behavior, reasons for

00:58:49

degradation, for example. For example, I

00:58:51

constantly try to analyze in my streams,

00:58:54

but I analyze,

00:58:57

well, analyze why Russian

00:59:01

society lacks empathy, whether there is

00:59:03

simply no empathy or not. Now,

00:59:06

if we are, say, in the

00:59:10

Baltic countries either in Israel or in the United

00:59:13

States of America, we see this empathy

00:59:15

constantly at every step, if you

00:59:20

tripped there, your bag of groceries

00:59:22

fell apart,

00:59:24

people will come running from all sides to pick you up. In

00:59:27

Russia, this also happens, but much less often.

00:59:29

There are a huge number of more striking

00:59:32

examples that show that in Russia

00:59:35

it is not, but

00:59:37

in other countries it is,

00:59:39

and the reasons are very simple: for a

00:59:41

long period,

00:59:43

empathy was a factor; empathy, reflection, these are

00:59:46

other human qualities, they

00:59:49

were factors preventing survival. Do

00:59:51

n’t believe, don’t be afraid, don’t ask. Trust,

00:59:55

empathy - these are things that, in the conditions of the

00:59:58

zone, contribute to the fact that the person

01:00:01

who possesses these qualities dies

01:00:03

first, this is very simple from this point of

01:00:07

view, journalism should investigate

01:00:09

any phenomenon, but

01:00:12

again it should not take a

01:00:14

position above the fray. This is

01:00:17

completely obvious to me and this radically

01:00:19

changes the picture of

01:00:22

journalism in general, that is, a journalist

01:00:25

who is today says that, so to speak,

01:00:28

I don’t support any of the warring

01:00:31

parties, from my point of view, he ceases

01:00:34

to be a journalist because he thereby,

01:00:36

in fact, takes the

01:00:40

side of the fascist aggression, that’s not how

01:00:45

events seem, thank you for taking

01:00:47

the time and coming to our direct broadcast Igor

01:00:49

Yakovenko was in direct contact with us today.

01:00:51

By the way, subscribe to the

01:00:53

Igor Yakovenko channel on YouTube and watch the streams

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