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listen I want to actually start because00:00:06
I mean that final sequence is so00:00:08
powerful and so intense I actually want00:00:09
to start at the end and discuss that I00:00:11
mean it's a question for all three of00:00:12
you really which is what are your00:00:14
memories of of that sequence it must00:00:16
have been a very psychologically and00:00:17
physically are us us experience getting00:00:20
that getting that sequence done I think00:00:23
um uh for Sean probably the most because00:00:27
uh as tricky as it is and as as sort of00:00:31
laboring it is to be running around and00:00:34
and uh sort of giving so much to the00:00:38
energy of the situation Sean's carrying00:00:40
a camera the whole time and every every00:00:44
move that we did Sean's with us the00:00:46
whole way you know and00:00:49
um I mean and I also you're carrying00:00:52
with it the00:00:53
whole how does this look that being the00:00:56
director the whole time I mean I it00:00:58
they're exhausting long00:01:01
but very enjoyable days but I imagine00:01:02
for Sean it was harder than anyone00:01:06
else remember much about it to be honest00:01:08
with you I mean just getting veras in00:01:10
the tank um and you spread to my crutch00:01:14
and I athletes crotch you can you can00:01:16
get veras in I did ask them to actually00:01:18
buy me a wet suit but they they hired me00:01:20
a wet suit and it was the skankiest wet00:01:22
suit ever Scene It was kind of yellow00:01:26
and it was anyway so there we were in00:01:29
the WB suit kind of in the water every00:01:31
day and shooting the strangest piece of00:01:33
film making trivia I've ever heard in my00:01:35
life I'm kind of stunned so how many00:01:37
days was that then I mean because00:01:39
obviously you know you're so wrapped up00:01:40
in it when you're watching the film I00:01:41
mean it's an extraordinary sequence as I00:01:43
keep saying but actually I'm guessing00:01:45
that was what a couple of weeks no it00:01:47
was two days in seriously yeah it was00:01:49
two days in water wasn't it well three00:01:52
days in water and we had three levels so00:01:54
on the first day it was at our ankles00:01:56
and then we had to wait for 24 hours00:01:58
before the tank filled up mhm and then00:02:00
it was at our knees and then the the00:02:03
last day it was at our waist so yeah it00:02:06
was it was shot over 3 days the water00:02:08
sequence I mean we were just talking00:02:10
about the logistics and the mechanics of00:02:11
doing it and I'm not sure if everyone00:02:13
here would have been aware or would have00:02:14
noticed on the credits I mean as well as00:02:16
directing the film I mean you did a00:02:17
number of roles including you were your00:02:19
own DP your own cameraman throughout and00:02:21
Catering I00:02:23
love for one night nice you haven't00:02:26
brought any tonight though we've got a00:02:27
little lunch Bo the back but tell us00:02:30
about this decision because from my00:02:31
limited experience of film making I mean00:02:33
that's admirable but also kind of00:02:36
crackers yeah that's a lot of people00:02:38
said that but I don't I don't really00:02:39
differentiate the job to be honest with00:02:41
you it's for me I was a photographer so00:02:43
it was I was sort of setting the lights00:02:45
and and and taking pictures like most of00:02:47
my life and and being very much there00:02:50
with my subject and photographing them00:02:51
so when it came to sort of when I00:02:53
started making films it almost felt like00:02:56
a natural progression that I would put a00:02:57
camera there and put the lights there00:02:59
and do the same thing but this time it's00:03:01
not steals it's it's moving so it feels00:03:04
like it does feel like one job cuz00:03:05
people say oh how do you juggle all00:03:07
those hats but it doesn't feel like I'm00:03:09
sort of juggling and actually you know00:03:11
if the times I have used the DP and I've00:03:13
sort of Sat by the monitor I've00:03:16
really I've actually really got bored00:03:20
and started talking to people and I'm00:03:22
not concentrating and they're like how00:03:23
is that and you're like oh uh yeah I see00:03:26
playback and and it just you're not00:03:28
you're not there with them and so it was00:03:30
very it's very important for me to feel00:03:31
like I'm really there and making it with00:03:34
them and uh having the camera and doing00:03:36
that and operating really puts me right00:03:39
in front of my actors and it's something00:03:41
that we go through together I mean kilan00:03:43
and Jamie did you find it it must be an00:03:45
unusual experience I'm guessing as00:03:46
actors to to find a director being the00:03:48
DP as well but does that kind of00:03:49
intimacy does that work in that case I00:03:51
mean do you feel a closer Bond yeah I00:03:53
mean it was certainly the first time for00:03:55
me that I'd experienced that and it it00:03:57
was amazing because it made the three of00:04:00
us this really tight little unit I mean00:04:03
obviously all the crew were heavily00:04:05
involved as well but you know00:04:07
particularly for those last two00:04:09
sequences you know everything that you00:04:11
go through emotionally and physically it00:04:13
felt like sea was going through it all00:04:16
as well and you know sometimes a00:04:17
director can be you know as you00:04:20
described far away behind a monitor and00:04:21
it feels slightly out of remove from00:04:23
what you're doing it this felt very kind00:04:25
of like intimate and together and we00:04:28
really felt like a a unit and that that00:04:32
and and also you know even in in not00:04:34
necessarily those scenes but in just00:04:35
some some of the more sort of emotional00:04:38
scenes to have Sean right there beside00:04:40
us and being able to just you know just00:04:42
whisper to us you know Direction and00:04:44
stuff was very very powerful and it felt00:04:48
very sort of safe environment you to do00:04:51
it again that was that was most that was00:04:55
that was00:05:00
how long had had you been kind of00:05:01
wanting and I'm just going to ignore00:05:04
this as this unfolds nobody wants get00:05:06
used to it shocking how long had you00:05:09
been wanting and hoping and planning to00:05:11
get this film made it I mean it' been a00:05:13
long old process yeah since 2001 so it00:05:15
was a long process and then after my00:05:18
last film Metro00:05:19
Manila um it looked like um I was going00:05:22
to be trusted with a slightly bigger00:05:24
budget which silly me um yeah which00:05:28
never materialized really and uh and00:05:31
this pretty much was going to collapse00:05:33
at the 11th hour and I had this window00:05:35
with both uh Jamie and Killian and and00:05:37
just didn't have any money to go and00:05:39
make it so it was going to be a very00:05:40
hard call I had to make uh to say that00:05:43
we couldn't raise the finance and but00:05:46
then uh I met with LD entertainment in00:05:49
the US who'd read the script and seen my00:05:51
last film and they said oh uh they want00:05:54
to they want to they want to speak to00:05:56
you on Friday00:06:00
it didn't00:06:03
happen let's just quickly move on you00:06:06
want to carry00:06:08
on you finish it you know the00:06:11
story um so anyway I did this call with00:06:13
them and they knew the situation they00:06:15
knew we needed to be in Prague by Monday00:06:17
and they beat the deal out over the00:06:19
weekend which I've never heard of and um00:06:21
they paid for the first week of finance00:06:23
and we went and we didn't miss a beat00:06:26
what was it about this story in00:06:27
particular that had lit that fire00:06:30
just became quite obsessed with that00:06:31
idea of what it was to stand in front of00:06:33
that Mercedes and try and do what they00:06:35
did and and really put the audience in00:06:37
their shoes and obviously they were very00:06:40
much on their own um and there was a lot00:06:42
of people that were against the action00:06:44
but they were given an order and they00:06:45
just you know they went through with it00:06:48
and that was quite incredible to sort of00:06:50
you know to you know to actually try and00:06:52
emotionally what does that entail you00:06:54
know what does that take to actually00:06:56
stand in front of someone and actually00:06:58
take their life away even though he was00:07:00
a despicable human being it's kind of00:07:01
like what does that does what does that00:07:05
take on on your soul what does that how00:07:07
you know how do you live with that how00:07:08
do you deal with that and and obviously00:07:10
that that weight is is portrayed very00:07:12
well by killan and Jamie through the00:07:15
characters I mean when you've got a00:07:16
director who is clearly so wrapped up00:07:18
and is clearly so obsessive about this00:07:19
story I mean is that inspiring or is00:07:21
that a little bit daunting as well00:07:23
knowing that it means quite that much to00:07:24
someone it's not just another job uh I00:07:27
think it makes our job a lot easier um00:07:30
um you know we I'm sure Killian was00:07:34
already attached when it came my way but00:07:37
Killian known Sean for slightly longer I00:07:40
guess but um it's very clear from the00:07:42
first meeting I had with Sean how00:07:44
engrossed he was in the story and how00:07:46
well he knew it and00:07:47
um uh I think you feed off that as an00:07:50
actor you know and and uh and sometimes00:07:54
you work with certain directors where00:07:56
you're not getting that Vibe at all and00:07:58
you think they're00:08:00
maybe just you uh picking up a paycheck00:08:03
or whatever it is and they're not fully00:08:05
uh involved themselves so um I think00:08:07
it's only a only a only a positive thing00:08:11
you know um and I pressure in term like00:08:14
I I find once you get a job the pressure00:08:17
eases a little bit especially with00:08:18
something like this and the way came00:08:19
around and that you got to trust that00:08:23
Sean chose you you know he chose Ken and00:08:26
I and uh he put the faith in us that it00:08:29
would work and he thought the balance00:08:30
would be right on screen um so that00:08:34
gives you a lot of comfort I think you00:08:35
know that that you are the right person00:08:37
to portray this this very important00:08:39
story to him I mean how did both it's a00:08:41
question for both of you how did you00:08:42
start building these characters up00:08:44
because you're playing real people so00:08:45
presumably there's a kind of an00:08:47
obligation of a Kind there to do justice00:08:49
to that real person but the thing that00:08:51
comes across I think in the film is also00:08:52
that these are ordinary men I mean these00:08:54
aren't in a different context these00:08:55
aren't Heroes it's just they come across00:08:58
as people who are doing what they have00:08:59
to in that situation but that's it's00:09:01
easy to talk about I guess it's tricky00:09:03
to play and to kind of to build00:09:04
something of flesh and blood out of that00:09:07
yeah well I think what you mentioned00:09:08
there about them being ordinary human00:09:10
beings was one of the brilliant things00:09:11
about the script and also the structure00:09:13
of the script you know really appealed00:09:15
to me in that it allowed you certainly00:09:17
as a reader and hopefully as an audience00:09:19
to to sort of begin to get to know these00:09:21
characters and to be to kind of invest00:09:23
in them so when the real drama kicks in00:09:26
when the stakes are raised which to me00:09:28
you know that is real drama when00:09:29
mistakes become about kind of life and00:09:31
death you're fully invested in these00:09:33
characters and I think you know that's00:09:36
that's very clever writing and and it's00:09:38
quite you know oldfashioned like00:09:40
nowadays you're not stopping for a00:09:41
massive setpiece you know you're00:09:43
gradually getting to in underneath the00:09:45
skin of these characters and that's00:09:47
appealing to play so I feel like you00:09:50
know when cuz it's my first time seeing00:09:52
the completed film tonight and i' seen00:09:54
like an earlier version you know but00:09:57
without an audience so and you you see00:09:59
how it begins to gradually slowly kind00:10:02
of get underneath your skin that's00:10:03
certainly my my experience and that's00:10:05
you know Tri tribute to Sean but in00:10:07
terms of the the in terms of the real00:10:09
life thing I think sea had amassed so00:10:12
much materials obviously having lived00:10:14
with it for so long so we just kind of00:10:15
piggybacked on that with all his00:10:17
materials and and then you know there's00:10:19
there's a freedom and there's a sort of00:10:21
constraint by playing a um a person that00:10:25
did exist I mean the the the constraint00:10:28
lies in that you know there there are00:10:29
materials about them but the way they00:10:30
look and way they the personalities are00:10:32
but also there the freedom because00:10:33
you're making a piece of entertainment00:10:35
and it's a film so you H I have to take00:10:38
Liberties you know to an extent um and I00:10:43
think that the main thing was the way00:10:44
the characters were drawn in relief to00:10:47
each other you know they're very very00:10:48
different characters and I think their00:10:49
arcs go like that you know they become00:10:52
more like each other at the beginning of00:10:53
the film and I'm more like yeah at the00:10:55
end of the film so it's it's kind of an00:10:57
interesting the way it's written and00:10:58
that's again very clever writing that00:11:02
definitely comes across and there is00:11:03
that bond that clever writing yeah00:11:05
apparently I was just going to skip over00:11:07
that with that but with the bond that's00:11:10
between you I mean I wonder how much00:11:11
rehearsal how much rehearsal did you00:11:13
have before the film because there is00:11:15
it's like you have to hit the ground00:11:16
running as those characters you have to00:11:18
as an audience member you have to accept00:11:20
that these two guys know each other work00:11:22
with each other now I don't know were00:11:23
you two strangers had you had any time00:11:25
to develop that kind of camaraderie off00:11:27
camera clearly there in spad00:11:31
tonight Jesus00:11:34
Christ no look uh so it's been going on00:11:39
too long man let's just be honest it's00:11:42
over tomorrow there's one left oh God no00:11:45
like I'm going to be totally sincere00:11:46
here and say what I really feel CU um00:11:50
Killian and I have a very um a00:11:53
particular Bond and we're both Irish and00:11:55
and and uh our currency in Ireland is is00:11:58
s taking the piss of each other I think00:11:59
so um but that is our our sign of love00:12:03
our the but I'm going to try to be00:12:04
sincere and honest here I00:12:09
uh have a drum roll no no no but look00:12:11
but look I am I'm uh I'm a massive fan00:12:14
of Killian's work um before um before I00:12:17
met him I always say that it's a tiny00:12:20
industry this you know everyone thinks00:12:21
it's this big thing but everyone knows00:12:23
each other you know and and uh or you00:12:26
always know I had a host of friends who00:12:28
already worked with killan so you find00:12:29
out if you're00:12:30
prick the thing is someone said00:12:33
something someone said something to me00:12:35
interesting to me once about uh becoming00:12:37
uh a notable actor said um if you were a00:12:42
prick before you become a massive00:12:44
prick and if you were actually like a00:12:46
really nice guy before you become like a00:12:48
really really nice guy you know what I00:12:49
mean it's just like everything sort of00:12:51
emphasized you know um so I had only00:12:54
heard good things about Killian and uh00:12:55
he delivered on that and much much more00:12:57
and luckily we both approached the job00:13:00
in a very similar uh tone and and uh00:13:04
that's massively important you know cuz00:13:08
when something is almost you could say00:13:10
two-hander like this it can go the other00:13:12
way and and things could have been very00:13:14
difficult you know but um we do we are00:13:17
very fond of each other and um you know00:13:19
I have huge my respect for him so but00:13:21
that I I think a lot of that is start to00:13:23
Shan seeing elements of that and00:13:25
thinking that would work even prior to00:13:26
Killian and I meeting so it's Testament00:13:29
again Testament Des I'm going to briefly00:13:31
bring you in for your input so K well00:13:34
listen yeah I mean it it's always a00:13:36
gamble that casting thing you know00:13:38
and they they they in fact they they do00:13:41
this crazy thing now more from boys and00:13:44
girls we do this kind of chemistry test00:13:45
of but like that's the most absurd thing00:13:47
in the world to me how can you00:13:49
manufacture that it's it's some weird00:13:50
Alchemy you can't it's just there or it00:13:53
isn't there and we just you know it was00:13:54
the same for me we went for dinner00:13:57
happened that I myself and my wife00:13:59
obsessed with the fall at the time and I00:14:01
was like you know I thought he did such00:14:03
an incredible job and I love that show00:14:05
and then we just met and and and it and00:14:07
it just seemed to work and there's a00:14:09
similar sense of humor and a similar00:14:10
approach to work as jimie said00:14:12
and you know I I forgot I mean I forgot00:14:15
how how intense that film is and and we00:14:18
forgot like it's it doesn't really let00:14:20
up but so we had we had to the three of00:14:23
us I think together we we we managed to00:14:25
make the atmosphere on set you know00:14:27
quite quite an enjoyable one despite00:14:30
everything else and and I think again00:14:31
it's to Sean test you know that that's00:14:35
the wrong word but Sean should take the00:14:36
credit for the fact you know there was00:14:37
families around and it was a very very00:14:40
lovely environment to work in and then00:14:42
we we we we had fun and I think you have00:14:44
to do that you're lucky to be working00:14:46
you're lucky to be working on such a00:14:47
good project and you you know you can't00:14:49
go around all sort of sad and intense00:14:52
you know it's got to You' got to get00:14:54
through the day I mean when you're00:14:55
putting together the casting Sean I mean00:14:57
you thinking okay this needs to be00:14:58
purely about what's happening on screen00:15:00
and the chemistry and everything that we00:15:01
were just talking about or does there00:15:02
also need to be an element of to use00:15:04
your PN not having a pair of Pricks on00:15:06
stage do we need to do we need to have a00:15:09
collaborative happy working atmosphere00:15:11
to make a decent film um well yeah00:15:14
definitely helps I mean you're trying to00:15:16
get you're trying to get everybody to do00:15:18
their best work so um you know you want00:15:22
to put them in a position where they're00:15:23
able to do that and give them the00:15:25
support that they can do that um I'd00:15:27
heard that both of them were Pricks so I00:15:29
I was going in I was no I mean I met I00:15:33
met Killian first and um you know and00:15:36
Killian has got such a brilliant sense00:15:38
of uh structure and story um and there's00:15:41
a reason why we've seen him for so many00:15:44
years because he's so good what he00:15:48
donees um and was it like this the whole00:15:51
time it's always like this it doesn't00:15:53
end it's like two children we have to00:15:56
three children obviously because they00:15:57
they bring me down to their level00:15:58
obviously00:15:59
um but um and then obviously once once00:16:02
Killian was in place and and and I'd met00:16:04
with him and I was I and I just thought00:16:06
it was going to be so interesting what00:16:07
he was going to do with uh with Yosef I00:16:10
met with uh Jamie and again i' same as K00:16:13
I'd seen the fall and and we spoke about00:16:17
the darkness that was in the fall and00:16:19
and how we were really how I was really00:16:21
looking for something that was almost a00:16:22
complete opposite of that and so um we00:16:25
had a very nice chat about that and I00:16:26
came away really thinking it was going00:16:28
to be a lovely00:16:29
uh combination the two and I was lucky00:16:31
that they did get on cuz I mean that's I00:16:33
mean then you know every day was easy00:16:36
let me ask one more question before00:16:37
handing over which is it was I was going00:16:39
to kind of ask at the start actually00:16:41
when we're thinking about that that00:16:42
final sequence because you shot kind of00:16:43
almost in chronological order didn't you00:16:45
so it must have been near the end uh is00:16:48
the water the water was the water was00:16:49
the last yeah and I just wondered that00:16:51
how easy it was to shake off the00:16:52
experience of doing that because as well00:16:53
as being you know miserable and you've00:16:55
got the veras God knows where and00:16:56
everything else psychologically I00:16:58
imagine fairly hard arduous stuff to go00:17:00
through and I wonder at the end of that00:17:02
do you just walk away or does there is00:17:04
there still a little bit of you which is00:17:05
is left well I remember us being in the00:17:07
Crypt and we' done we just shot your00:17:10
scenes in the Crypt and you were done00:17:11
and you were going home because we'd00:17:13
actually shot your church sequence00:17:15
slightly before your CP sequence cu the00:17:17
sets weren't ready um and uh and I00:17:21
remember you coming in saying okay I'm00:17:23
done I'm out of here and you said00:17:25
goodbye to us both and left and I kind00:17:27
of turned to Killian and it was really00:17:28
kind of we were00:17:30
like we were standing in this00:17:33
crit thinking 3 days of the water slowly00:17:36
coming out it was the most anticlimactic00:17:39
goodbye ever I remember you said that00:17:41
cuz it was I finished at lunch or00:17:43
something as well so you sell to go back00:17:45
and shoot that day and I was like right00:17:47
that's thanks it was depressing it was00:17:48
it was kind of like I was like we're the00:17:49
only ones left and you were like yeah so00:17:52
cuz I was waiting for some big emotional00:17:53
outpouring but you had lunch and then00:17:55
and I didn't even sck around for lunch I00:17:58
just left00:18:06
amazing we can't res search a subject00:18:09
for that long and not come across00:18:11
everything that's been written about it00:18:12
and everything that's been made about it00:18:14
and spoken about it so obviously uh00:18:17
hangman also die um 43 I believe and uh00:18:20
at UNT the um check movie 65 and uh00:18:25
operation Daybreak uh 75 so you you know00:18:29
you've got to look at see and see what's00:18:31
been done before um and and how it's00:18:34
been tackled and and how how you can you00:18:37
know how it's going to shape your vision00:18:39
of it and and and sort of help you00:18:41
hopefully make um a new version of it00:18:45
you know because I think it's it's00:18:47
something that hasn't been looked at for00:18:49
a long time um so and I think there's a00:18:52
you know it's it's a story that's very00:18:54
close to the Czech people and yet not a00:18:57
lot of people really know about it00:18:59
outside the Czech Republic so it was00:19:01
important for us to really not only get00:19:04
it right and that the Czech people say00:19:06
oh yeah there that's the locations and00:19:07
that's exactly where it was and and they00:19:09
really get a sense that we've paid00:19:11
attention to detail but also that um00:19:13
that we get to tell the story for for00:19:15
the rest of the00:19:24
world00:19:26
um I I I I'm not sure uh I'm not sure it00:19:32
was my I don't know it's a hard00:19:34
question answer in terms of most00:19:35
challenging role it it was certainly00:19:38
challenging and it was a territory that00:19:40
I hadn't really covered before I I um00:19:43
for whatever reason for the most part in00:19:45
my career so far I haven't really played00:19:49
anyone uh as vulnerable as Yan I'm00:19:52
usually playing people who sort of know00:19:53
what they want and are quite aggressive00:19:55
in the way they approach it and uh so00:19:58
that was that was New Territory for me00:20:00
but um you're meant to be an actor and00:20:02
you're meant to be able to cover all00:20:03
bases and uh so an element of challenge00:20:07
there um but00:20:10
um no I mean the every single job you do00:20:15
uh should feel like somewhat of a of a00:20:16
challenge it's called work for a reason00:20:20
um and and you should feel um pushed and00:20:24
uh and and this job was certainly no00:20:26
different but it didn't feel like any00:20:27
greater challenge in any other work I've00:20:30
done I don't think and I don't think00:20:32
there was any Rhyme or Reason Why one00:20:34
was from Slovakia I mean it was one00:20:35
country back then so it was00:20:37
Czechoslovakia one was from Slovakia or00:20:39
that area Slovak region and they were00:20:41
parachuted back in because they had been00:20:44
evacuated from France and they were00:20:47
stationed here in the UK and trained by00:20:49
the SE soe and picked by the Czech00:20:51
government in exile for the mission00:21:01
um it's not based on a book um it's00:21:04
based on uh it's just based on the true00:21:06
story so it a number of um you know a00:21:11
number of Publications and a number of00:21:13
Articles and and a mass of um material00:21:17
that I've just gathered since 200100:21:27
really a little bit I mean I work with00:21:29
Robin Foster the composer and I remember00:21:31
when we spoke about the scho and I said00:21:33
you know that the the script said uh00:21:36
that this Crypt action takes place with00:21:38
no production sound but just to a piece00:21:40
of piano music and so it was trying to00:21:42
find that perfect piece of piano music00:21:45
that would give me the the power of what00:21:47
I was after visually and um Robin did I00:21:52
think a couple of attempts at it and00:21:54
then I finally got this piece from him00:21:56
and I listened to it and it it was it00:21:59
had that power and it was just the track00:22:01
that you heard tonight that was the00:22:03
track that I heard and and I I remember00:22:05
calling him saying that's the track um00:22:08
and I I can't hear it very often because00:22:11
I don't want it to lose its power so I00:22:13
kind of then knowing that I had that00:22:15
kind of left it and then uh pretty much00:22:18
we it was one of the first things we00:22:19
edited and then we put the music on it00:22:21
and then I never when I when we were00:22:23
watching the film through I never used00:22:24
to watch it right to the end um because00:22:27
you know I didn't want to get bored of00:22:29
the track and then be calling him and00:22:30
saying yeah do you think we could try00:22:32
something else now I'm just you know it00:22:34
was right from the beginning so it was00:22:36
it was left on00:22:45
there yeah it was 100% shot in Prague00:22:48
and uh we tried to be very faithful to00:22:51
the locations where the story took place00:22:54
um even to a point where we uh we shot00:22:58
with Bill Milner in in in the Gusto00:23:01
Museum which was the Gusto headquarters00:23:04
and and even um shot that sequence of00:23:07
him being tortured in the same room that00:23:09
the real acher was tortured in which was00:23:11
very heavy I remember we were shooting00:23:13
it and kind of just had our heads down00:23:14
and wanted to get through the day and00:23:17
was slightly worried about whether we00:23:18
were walking on someone's grave grave00:23:20
and but I think ultimately you know I00:23:23
think it pays homage to his memory and00:23:25
and um and you know I think I'm happy we00:23:28
did it um we rebuilt the church on the00:23:31
sound stages of barend off CU obviously00:23:34
we couldn't shoot all the the walls up00:23:36
in the church so uh yeah I mean but we00:23:40
did try to talk them into it at one00:23:42
point which just wasn't going very far00:23:45
but um uh they did give us some of the00:23:48
stuff that was actually in the church to00:23:50
actually put in the studio as long as it00:23:51
was kind of really looked after so we00:23:53
just made sure there was no bullet00:23:54
squibs anywhere near that stuff and we00:23:56
rebuilt this we rebuilt the Church on on00:23:59
the Sound Stage and we had the plans to00:24:00
go by so it's a it was a one onetoone00:24:02
replica of the church which was you as a00:24:05
filmmaker to go in and00:24:08
um uh and and have a set to work with00:24:11
like that I had a DP friend of mine that00:24:13
came and walked a set and he was like00:24:14
you bastard you've got no green screen00:24:17
and this was a DP on like really big00:24:19
action movies he said they never build00:24:21
anything above 11 ft for me and we00:24:23
always have to paint it in afterwards00:24:25
and he's you know so it was a it was a00:24:27
joy to be able to have have a set that00:24:29
you just looked around 360° and could00:24:31
shoot any any angle you wanted and it00:24:33
not you'd not run out of set you know um00:24:36
so yeah I mean you but 100% in in prag00:24:40
and we used very old photographs of00:24:42
actual locations from 1942 and we went00:24:45
to the same places where those00:24:46
photographs were taken and we normally00:24:48
did our location stuff in there and then00:24:51
we gave those photographs to our CGI00:24:53
guys and they were able to replica you00:24:55
know um what it looked like from the00:24:57
photograph00:24:59
cuz actually prag doesn't look like that00:25:00
anymore it's really yellowDescription:
Cillian Murphy and Jamie Dornan join writer-director Sean Ellis to talk about Anthropoid (2016), their film about a plot to assassinate senior Nazi Reinhard Heydrich during the second world war. The trio reflect on how they made the shoot fun despite the serious nature of the piece, the considerations of portraying real people, and their respect for each other’s work. Q&A hosted by presenter and critic Danny Leigh. Anthropoid is released at UK cinemas on 9 September. Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/user/BFIfilms?sub_confirmation=1 Watch more on the BFI Player: https://player.bfi.org.uk/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BFI Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Follow us on Google+: https://workspaceupdates.googleblog.com/2023/04/new-community-features-for-google-chat-and-an-update-currents%20.html
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