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Intro
0:50
40K Tournament Results
4:18
Guard
5:31
Admech
6:16
Chaos Daemons
6:51
Genestealer Cults
7:44
Grey Knights
8:38
Drukhari
9:22
Chaos Knights
10:15
Orks
10:53
Thousand Sons
11:35
Aeldari
12:27
Custodes
13:20
Imperial Knights
14:00
Chaos Space Marines
15:08
Space Marines
18:08
Death Guard
19:02
T'au Empire
20:02
Harlequins
20:57
Necrons
23:50
Tyranids
26:00
Sisters
27:38
Final Rankings
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so 40k has changed an absolute ton
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recently huge buffs and nerfs to a ton
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of armies and a whole new set of
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missions to grapple with now the dust is
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settling which are the armies that are
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winding up on top
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hello and welcome back to wars bets
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tactics where today we're going to be
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going through every faction in 40k and
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seeing how they've been getting on in
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competitive games recently this video is
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a follow-up to one i made a couple of
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weeks ago a tier list attempting to
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predict the changes that nephilim would
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have on the game and at the time i did
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say that i'd make a follow-up video once
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we actually had some good tournament
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data and see which armies are doing well
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in reality we're going to be talking
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through every faction in the game
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starting with arguably the weakest and
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getting onto the very strongest the
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armies that are likely to be winning
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matchups and stomping tournaments across
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the globe
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so while the previous video was a bit of
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a subjective tier list this one's going
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to be fairly numbers driven i thought
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we'd take a look at the number of armies
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that are winning events and they win
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percentages when they're playing other
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factions i think that has at least a
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reasonable time to do so all of those
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changes in warzone nephilim happened
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three to four weeks ago now so now
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people have had enough chance to
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actually play some tournament games and
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put all the theory crafting into
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practice in competitive events the
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nephilim changes have been in play for a
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couple of weeks with chaos-based marines
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maybe only just starting to be played in
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earnest this last week there isn't a
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whole ton of data yet but it's certainly
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possible to see some clear trends in
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terms of the changes there was the
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balanced data slate that often nerfed a
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bunch of things all the points cost
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updates which also had big impacts the
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new command point limitations which
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really hurt some armies but kind of
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didn't hurt some of us so much and new
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faction secondary objectives which do
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seem to be having impact
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in this list i thought we'd use two
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different metrics the number of armies
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that are finishing in high placements at
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tournaments and also the win percentages
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in grand tournament games as with the
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last time we looked at a video like this
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i thought i'd use the top ten percent of
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tournament placings just as a rough
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measure for which armies are being
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successful as i fail to break into the
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top ten percent of most tournaments you
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are going to wind up with more of the
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stronger armies in that bracket than the
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weaker ones i think top 10 percent also
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is quite nice it gives a bit more weight
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to bigger events really massive grand
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tournaments really help weed out these
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stronger lists from the weakest so it
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does make sense to include more of the
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top lists from them the main issue with
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that metric is that it doesn't take into
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account the amount of people playing the
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army highly played armies will get a few
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more placings just through sheer weight
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of numbers but on the plus side it does
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show the armies that you're actually
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likely to run into in an event if you're
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doing well and the ones that you're
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going to need to fight off for the top
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spots another rough and ready way to
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gauge army strength is their win
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percentages and the number of games that
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armies are winning against other armies
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at tournaments in theory this should
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fairly directly show you exactly how
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strong an army is due to what percentage
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of mack jobs you're likely to be the
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victor and in theory it is the better
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metric on paper but in practicality
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there are some issues with that as well
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it gets very unhelpful for lesser played
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armies say if you've only got one or two
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faction experts turning up with the
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worst armors on the list and often you
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get some slightly inflated win
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percentages for fairly bad armies as the
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only people who are running them are
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people who are absolutely diehard
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players wherever there's low numbers of
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people playing the win percentage margin
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of error could be very big indeed to the
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extent where it's just not all that
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meaningful to look at in the first place
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and also the win percentage can be
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excused by armies that tend to have a
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few more newer or more casual players in
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them i think in particular necrons and
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space marines being these starter kit
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armies tend to have a few more slightly
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newer players who aren't quite as
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invested in top tier warhammer i think
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both of these things are helpful though
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for a rough gauge of how armies are
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doing for the event placements i've
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literally been through best coast
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pairings and looked at each tournament
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taking the top 10 of armies and added
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them to the numbers
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for the win percentages there's a rather
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helpful guy who makes a breakdown called
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meta mondays on the warhammer
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competitive page so i've just taken a
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rough average of the past three weeks
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worth of data for the netherland
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missions i thoroughly recommend checking
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out those meta mondays post on the
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competitive 40k reddit page really good
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for a rough understanding of what armis
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are doing well or not so well and if the
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person who makes those does happen to be
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listening you're doing an absolutely
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awesome job i'll link the latest post
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down in the video description in any
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case let's get into it and talk through
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the factions of 40k starting with the
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weakest and ending with the strongest
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so starting out we'll go for the
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foremost struggling armies in 40k at the
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moment at least in terms of top 10
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placings for the list we'll go through
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the amount of top placings and talk
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about the win percentage of each army as
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we go along sometimes i think that the
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win percentage is more meaningful than
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the number of placings sometimes less so
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firstly and kind of sadly despite all
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their recent buffs the imperial guards
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still don't seem to be breaking through
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they only got one top 10 placing despite
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their hammer of the emperor also
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wounding on sixes with all their guns
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getting armor of contempt on all their
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vehicles then having sions folded in to
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get hammer of the emperor and a few
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minor helpful points cause i was kind of
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suspecting that we might get at least a
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few more guard lists breaking through i
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suppose neph limb didn't really help one
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of the other rather strong ways to run
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them before which was getting mascara in
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constrict white shields for one command
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point for two units i guess that's a bit
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more painful if you're also wanting
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things like 10 cases and you've only got
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6 cp to start with their overall win
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percentage does look like it could be
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the single worst at 37
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unless you're breaking down literally
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every flavor of space marine a few of
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those rank lower i feel like with their
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new upgrades they do have a fair bit
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more chance of challenging top lists but
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so far things still don't seem to be
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working out for the guard particularly
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well
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next up and again with only the one
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placing we have the adeptus mechanicus
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they've been struggling horribly before
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and did arguably get a few decent buffs
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out of the balanced data slate and
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points cuts their core back on iron
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striders gave them a much more powerful
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gun line unit rust stalkers going down
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was helpful and guessing a few more
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strategies go back to their original
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power isn't passed i suppose their
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secondary objectives and nephilim
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command point changes didn't really help
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them though as they often wanted to
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spend loads of cp pre-game very few
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people seem to be wanting to play them
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approximate win percent is 43 percent
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and it's certainly not that there aren't
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competitive ahmed players out there
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considering how much they were
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dominating in the early 9th i still
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think much of the rest of the codex
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could do with some small points cuts or
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something to make them a bit more
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dangerous
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i'm also not particularly surprised to
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see chaos demons down here as well only
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one placing as well i would argue that
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these are probably the single weakest
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faction 40k at the moment kind of
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mediocre to bad before and then got no
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recent boss whatsoever from all the
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balance changes just due to their codecs
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being the next one and games workshop
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seemingly not think that it's worth it
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for a month or so their approximate win
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percent is 50 though it's a ridiculously
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small sample size so it's perhaps more
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indicative of just a few good players
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doing well very few people seem to be
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choosing to run them in a competitive
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environment if they have other armies on
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offer
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finally for the former struggling armies
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we have the jeans to the cult they had
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zero placings in a top 10 that i could
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find on bcp i think it was kind of
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predicted that they'd be taking a bit of
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a tumble being a reasonably mid-tier
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army before the one that took quite a
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lot of skill to play and win with
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against the top dogs with the vast
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majority of the weaker armies getting
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decent buffs and genes to the courts
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just staying exactly the same they're
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more of a challenge to win with than
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ever they still want some really
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powerful tricks and can do a lot of
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things that other armies just plain
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can't but they often need to make full
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advantage of those tricks just to be
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dealing decent damage in the first place
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and then most of their units do get
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killed pretty easily in return it's not
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the best news for the followers of the
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four armed emperor these days again
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their win percentage really wasn't too
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bad but seeing as it hasn't been enough
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to propel seemingly any player into the
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top 10 percent of finishings it doesn't
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seem to be amounting to enough to really
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see them break through on mass
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moving on we'll go to the next tear-up
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and again armistice that didn't get all
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that many decent finishes there's
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another four armies that have between
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two and four top ten percent placings i
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was actually kind of surprised to see
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gray night so low by both metrics on
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this they don't seem to have been having
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the best time since nephilim dropped
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only two people seem to make it into the
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top ten percent of placings and
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tournaments and their win mate at gts
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appears to have been a fairly poultry 39
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one of the weaker ones whichever way you
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slice it these stats just don't really
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look all that good for them i'd guess
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that they might just be having a few bad
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weeks it's not really that they've lost
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much power from warzone nephilim at all
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and a fair few of their stronger rivals
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have been toned down i certainly feel
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that with a competitive build they're
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still going to be an army that's going
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to challenge a lot of people they've got
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some solid shooting with their dread
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knights threatening infantry at range
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psychic and melee and potentially some
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very hard to shift paladins with armored
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resilience
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also in the club of previous meta armies
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that don't seem to be doing quite as
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well right now are drewcard with two
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placements it does seem that over the
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past half a year or so a lot fewer
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people are playing drukari maybe a lot
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of folks were still playing them as
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their built up lists for their previous
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very strong states but now they've got
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quite a lot more rivals just with an
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elder never mind the best of the game
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their win mate also seems fairly healthy
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though again not many people are running
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them at gts i'm still not convinced that
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they're outright bad to be honest but
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they're certainly shaping up to be more
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one of the middle of the road armies as
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opposed to anything outstanding anymore
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as codexes go i do feel like it's one of
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the better books in that the vast
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majority of their units are decently
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usable i guess just with their various
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successive nerfs most of the really
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strong stuff has been rained in
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also down here we have chaos knights
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three top 10 tournament placings overall
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and despite having a new recent shiny
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book out they are a slightly more lesser
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played army not all that many people
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have an army of chaos knights kicking
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around and ready to go they still do
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seem to be doing solidly enough an
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average one percent of 49 at least in
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the post-nephilim world they do seem to
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be a little bit behind their imperial
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counterparts broadly speaking people
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seem to like house herb attracts icon
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class knights they're tougher and hits a
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lot harder in melee or possibly house of
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extrix war dogs with all the melter in
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the world i have seen a couple of lists
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running around with abaddon and 12 war
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dogs it seems that the spoiler himself
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is about efficient to justify himself as
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just a beat stick even though it only
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gives the war dogs kind of minimal buffs
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still though perhaps looking like a bit
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more of a challenge to win with than
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some but enough cool toys to punch up
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and be seriously threatening with the
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right army
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finally for this category we have the
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orcs who took four placements in the top
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ten percent again they're one of the
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more struggling factions that gained a
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few interesting things in the chapter
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approved updates while now gives them an
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invoice haven't better strength and the
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infantry broadly got a bit cheaper both
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really quite helpful things i still
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don't think the orcs are perhaps one of
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the most obvious armies to build a
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really strong list with a lot of units
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still don't really take a punch
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particularly well for the points cost
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even at their toughness of five again
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their win rate isn't terrible though
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around 48
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it's going to be interesting seeing how
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all players adapt to the new changes and
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what sort of builds come through
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next up let's get into the more mid-tier
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armies these are factions that scored
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between 5 and 10 top ten percent
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placings and starting off we have the
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thousand suns there are six people
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finished in high places and around about
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a break even fifty percent win rate at
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gt's i'd say the thousand suns have just
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resolutely been a mid to upper mid tier
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army ever since the codex came out never
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really been particularly outstanding in
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the power rankings but never really
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being not a threat at all after the
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latest changes they got a fair few nice
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things like rubrics of some very cheap
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gear and they were perhaps one of the
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factions that like the armor of
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contempts changes the most particularly
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with scarab called terminators it's hard
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to go too far wrong with loads of tough
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object and a decent battery of mortal
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wound output
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next up we have the craft worlds and i
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have included inari in the craft world
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basically having rules that really
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aren't too dissimilar from just a
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individual craft world and allowing you
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to include a few harlequin and dracari
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units it does seem that that change to
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the hail of doomcraft world seems to
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have discouraged people from using it
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quite so much a lot of people were using
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that with dire avengers or wind rider
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jet bikes for some massively dangerous
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shurikens people do seem to be
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gravitating a bit more towards earthway
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as opposed to that now the inari also
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had two of these six placings as well in
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my predicted tier list i had craft
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worlds a fair bit higher than this i
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still think their damage out porch
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shenanigans and psychic synergy really
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aren't too bad but i think that one of
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the things that's holding them back is
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their secondary objective game which
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isn't as easy for them as it is for some
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of the factions that have ranked higher
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they're still doing okay for win
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percentages though at around 51 percent
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next up with seven placings we also have
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the adapters custodies again seem like a
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pretty convincing middle of the road
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type army not too many changes in the
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whole nephilim update a big points nerf
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to trajan and some small tweaks to a
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couple of the dreads they were perhaps
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one of the strongest armies in the game
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towards the start of the year but that
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has rapidly dropped off a bit a lot of
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custodies players are looking with
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jealousy at the armour of contempt of
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other factions terminators the
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custodial's nerves do seem to have been
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met with quite a lot of negativity but
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it seems at least a fair few people are
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still playing with them they are perhaps
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far from outstanding i have a feeling
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that maybe the amount of play with them
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might be a bit of a hangover for people
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who started or have dusted off
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custodials armies earlier in the year i
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might not be too surprised to see a
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bitter drop off in how many people play
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them as the year goes on the win rates
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they're around about a 47
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a little bit less than a lot of these
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other middle of the road factions
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next up with eight placings we have the
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imperial knights i guess it might just
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be a bit of luck that they seem to be
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outperforming their chaos cousins a bit
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over the past few weeks but their win
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percentage also seems a little bit
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higher as well 51 versus 49. they do
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seem to be a few good ways that you can
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play imperial knights and have them be
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quite strong the free blade lance seems
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usable as raven and house tyrannis are
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both very solid on the mechanicus side
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and house griffith or that noble
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combatant house both of those are pretty
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good on imperialism their homages are
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incredibly tough with -1 damage and good
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stratagems though i think they maybe are
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at the mercy of opponents armies a bit
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more with terrain or heavy anti-tank
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really making some matchups very
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difficult for them
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finally for this category we've got the
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new kids on the block chaos space
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marines with 10 placings i've no doubt
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that the shiny new colleagues will have
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got a whole load of people dusting off
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their chaos armies i must admit i think
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that chaos maybe more than any of the
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other armies did seem to be seeing more
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success at the rtts and smaller
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tournaments rather than the big grand
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tournaments i think maybe part of that
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might be due to how soon the chaos book
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has dropped some of the gts might not
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have been using the decks yet and there
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weren't really all that many big
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tournaments over the past weekend so
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hopefully we'll see some better success
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there in the next few weeks so far that
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actual win rate at band tournaments
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doesn't seem that great though it's all
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the way down to 40 percent solely worse
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than most of the other mid-placing
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armies here i'll be aiming to make a
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full video looking at some chaos lists
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in the future at the moment though it
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seems to be the legions that i would
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have guessed that has seen the most play
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world bearers makes up about half the
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list and empress children and iron
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warriors are also popular another factor
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holding chaos list back might well be
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the lack of some of their models things
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like the dark commune and the possessed
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haven't come out at this point so when
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those kits come out we might see them
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take off a bit more
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next up we get to the slightly thorny
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topic of space marines overall as a
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faction i'd argue they're probably
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around the mid placings level the
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strongest chapters being towards the
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upper end of that and the weakest
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chapters being far worse just often not
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really being played whatsoever space
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marines always are a bit hard to rank
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because if you clutch them together as
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one faction then they look very powerful
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but if you split them up into their
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individual chapters which i guess you
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could argue would be not that different
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to things like chaos lesions or elder
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craft worlds and all their numbers look
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quite weedy on top of that a lot of the
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lesser played factions just don't really
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see people play them whatsoever due to
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other subpactions of space marines being
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pretty much flatly better than them i
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wouldn't be surprised if things like
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imperial office and raven guards saw a
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bit more success if they weren't just
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overshadowed by other chapters with
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arguably better rules in any case
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overall in terms of top 10 percent
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placings space marines has an overall
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faction with yeah 11 different codexes
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combined get 20 placings and breaking
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that down it seems to be a very space
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wolf heavy week this week for some
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reason seven space wars three blood
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angels two iron hands two salamanders
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two black templars one ultramarine one
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dark angels one white scars and one
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death watch i do find it kind of
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interesting that space wolves just seem
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to have really taken off for some reason
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previously in rankings they've been
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doing kind of finer space marines go it
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just seems that the last two weeks seem
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to have been exceptionally good for
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space wolf players blood angels also
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have a very strong showing and they have
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been doing pretty well recently further
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drops to things like sanguine regard and
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nephilim only seem to have helped them
00:16:40
better iron hands and black templars
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have been solid for a while maybe
00:16:43
slightly better performance than i would
00:16:45
have expected out of salamanders and
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slightly worse than i might have
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expected out of dark angels overall as a
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faction their win percentage is pretty
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dreadful at gts though it's
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approximately 39
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including all the worst flavors of space
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marines as well as the good ones space
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wolves are around about 42 percent
00:17:02
bloody angels roughly 49 so
00:17:04
significantly higher and dark angels all
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the way down to 34 pretty poor
00:17:08
considering their death wing lists have
00:17:10
often been bullying events quite well i
00:17:12
think maybe the secondaries have made
00:17:14
things a lot harder for them previously
00:17:16
they could really easily score loads of
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secondaries just by having terminators
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park themselves in the center of the
00:17:21
board and on their home field objective
00:17:23
and now that's no longer the case with
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the new missions most of the other
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chapters just don't seem to be seeing
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enough play to get meaningful amounts of
00:17:30
data at least on an individual level and
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a few of them have some pretty bad win
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percentages i do think that space
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marines along with necrons are perhaps
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an army that just attracts a lot of
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newer players and one of the easiest
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ones to jump into and one of the best
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known out of 40k i feel like usually
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their win percentages will be a little
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bit lower at least on a whole faction
00:17:49
basis generally though i think that
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marines are doing kind of all right
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taking into account lots of decent
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placings but some pretty mediocre win
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percentages i would probably rank them
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about the same level as the other
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mid-placing armist if you want to split
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the mob into individual factions then
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perhaps a lot of the lesser played ones
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might be in the tier below
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next up though let's start getting into
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the really strong armies of 40k these
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are the armies that have got between 11
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and 20 of the top 10 placings first up
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we have death guard they certainly were
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an army that was seriously struggling
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before but now with a hefty dose of
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points cots and play marines that can
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take as many melee weapons as you like
00:18:26
they seem to be back in a relatively
00:18:28
good spot moretarian's a bit more viable
00:18:30
pox walkers are back to being pretty
00:18:32
excellent chaff play marines are
00:18:34
actually useful and the terminators are
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back to their original cost and all the
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nastier with armor of contempt again i
00:18:41
did maybe feel that they were having a
00:18:42
bit more success at the smaller events
00:18:44
compared with the bigger ones but i did
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notice that they took the biggest grand
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tournament over the previous weekend so
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it's hard to deny that mortarians boys
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are a bit more of a force to be reckoned
00:18:54
with overall their win rate wasn't
00:18:56
desperately stand out at 49 percent but
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it does look like there's a lot of
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plague written space marines about these
00:19:01
days
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next up and also on 12 placings are the
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tao empire one of the factions hit very
00:19:08
hard by the points nerfs crisis suits
00:19:10
going up the core 10 and plasma by five
00:19:13
and then storm surges commanders
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broadsides ethereals and a few other
00:19:17
helpful choices or getting increased in
00:19:19
points cost previously to all that i
00:19:22
think you could argue they were one of
00:19:23
the more oppressive armies of the game
00:19:25
along with tyranids and harlequins they
00:19:27
were a bit of an uphill struggle for a
00:19:28
lot of armist but even despite all these
00:19:30
nerfs it still seems they're doing at
00:19:32
least okay a lot of lists seem to use
00:19:34
around two blocks of crisis suits even a
00:19:36
newer higher points as you can still put
00:19:39
loads of buffs on them and make them
00:19:40
efficient as i think a lot of people
00:19:42
were expecting hammerheads and long
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strike are seeing a bit more play as
00:19:45
well towel commanders and shadow song
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are still out in force and plenty of
00:19:49
cheap screening units like crews and
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hounds and things their gt win rate is
00:19:54
around a 51 percent so still not
00:19:56
enormously outstanding compared with the
00:19:57
mid-tier factions but that win rate is
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seeing a few more players place highly
00:20:03
finally we have the harlequins they
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managed to net themselves 12 top 10
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placings and it's kind of hilarious to
00:20:09
still see them doing kind of fine
00:20:11
despite two successive rounds of pretty
00:20:13
hefty nerves compared with where their
00:20:14
codex dropped their void weavers cost a
00:20:17
lot more now they don't get as many lock
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dies and can't fire and fade more than
00:20:21
once two of their best say that's were
00:20:23
nerfed and a few of their character
00:20:24
choices reigned in despite all that
00:20:26
though they still seem to be pretty
00:20:28
solid aside from the sadath changes
00:20:30
troops and star weavers didn't really
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get a lot weaker they're still massively
00:20:33
strong with their decent pistols and
00:20:35
shooting and they've got crazy movement
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to be able to get all over the board
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hopefully put themselves in great places
00:20:40
to score objectives tie up enemy units
00:20:43
and they're surprisingly annoying to
00:20:44
remove as well with all their defensive
00:20:46
rules like -1 to hit and preventing
00:20:48
rerolls in terms of win rate they
00:20:50
actually just knows into being the third
00:20:52
best at 53
00:20:54
a little bit above most of the other
00:20:55
mid-tier armies
00:20:58
now though we're getting ourselves into
00:21:00
the armies that look like they're going
00:21:01
to be seeing a lot of good performance
00:21:03
three armies that saw around double as
00:21:05
many places as the next best choices on
00:21:07
the list firstly it does seem that the
00:21:09
necrons really are truly in ascendancy
00:21:11
they scored 23 top 10 placings so around
00:21:14
double as many as harlequins or tau the
00:21:17
faction received a pretty hefty amount
00:21:18
of boosts from the whole warzone
00:21:20
nephilim update i think it's drawn out a
00:21:22
whole load of people who have been
00:21:24
waiting for ages for necrons to be
00:21:25
decently good in 40k people who have
00:21:28
built up armies since their very nice
00:21:29
new released army came out before the
00:21:32
update they were one of the weaker
00:21:33
armies in 40k but they do seem that one
00:21:35
of the armies that all the buffs have
00:21:37
really come together for and seem to be
00:21:39
a challenge for a lot of forces to deal
00:21:41
with first up the silent king is a
00:21:43
resplendent centerpiece and a whole ton
00:21:45
of armies now he gained the core keyword
00:21:47
for some really important buffs
00:21:49
including using his own very good buffs
00:21:51
on himself and it's a pretty excellent
00:21:52
centerpiece for any of the other damage
00:21:54
dealers in the codex things like
00:21:56
destroyers it's fairly tough to take out
00:21:58
it's very hard to charge with his fight
00:22:00
last ability and even if he's not
00:22:01
playing too aggressively he can still be
00:22:03
farming out some pretty high power
00:22:05
anti-tank shots with those maneuvers i
00:22:07
think another reason that's making
00:22:08
necrons particularly strong is that
00:22:10
their secondaries are very easy indeed a
00:22:12
subject that i might come back to in
00:22:14
another video shortly but there's
00:22:16
multiple different ones that can be
00:22:17
maxed out without too much effort it's
00:22:19
very hard to stop them achieving them
00:22:21
unless you're dominating the game
00:22:23
outright it's a really big advantage in
00:22:25
nephilim when there's less secondary
00:22:26
objectives going around and broadly
00:22:28
speaking most of them aren't that easy
00:22:29
to max out reliably on top of that
00:22:32
they've had some fairly wide reaching
00:22:33
points cuts including things like locust
00:22:36
destroyers and heavy destroyers most of
00:22:38
the hq choices tomb blades and a pretty
00:22:40
solid chunk of the rest of the codex
00:22:42
virtually every single vehicle gained
00:22:44
core their command protocols are
00:22:46
somewhat useful now with game long ones
00:22:48
allowing you some soup top melee or
00:22:50
something and i think on top of that at
00:22:52
least compared with some armies necrons
00:22:54
don't really care too much about the cp
00:22:56
limits of nephilim their relics and
00:22:58
warlord traits aren't as outstanding as
00:23:00
many of the other armies and a lot of
00:23:01
their stratagems while interesting just
00:23:03
don't seem quite as vital as some
00:23:05
overall i think they're in a better spot
00:23:07
than they've ever been throughout all of
00:23:08
ninth edition so far one of the top
00:23:10
factions right now for sure in my
00:23:12
previous prediction video i think i
00:23:14
perhaps underestimated the strength of
00:23:15
their secondary objectives if i paid
00:23:17
more attention to those i probably
00:23:19
should have ranked them higher in
00:23:20
hindsight still despite all this their
00:23:22
win percentage isn't actually that
00:23:24
outstanding only 49
00:23:26
so slightly less than half unfairly
00:23:28
middle of the road my guess will be that
00:23:30
there's at least a fair amount of
00:23:31
dilution from newer players who have
00:23:33
only started 40k and 9th i wouldn't be
00:23:36
too surprised if that's a small factor
00:23:38
even with a fairly mediocre win
00:23:39
percentage though they still seem to be
00:23:40
winning lots of tournaments it's not too
00:23:42
hard for necron lists to be scoring in
00:23:44
the high 90s victory points wise
00:23:46
provided you're not absolutely clearing
00:23:48
them off all the objectives
00:23:51
next up with the big three we have the
00:23:52
tyranids 24 of the top 10 placings and
00:23:55
it seems that you can't really keep a
00:23:56
good bog down despite all the crazy
00:23:59
nerfs that they got in the warzone
00:24:00
nephilim update tyranids have been
00:24:02
pretty solid for quite a while to be
00:24:04
honest first it was
00:24:05
leviathan and their double shooting hive
00:24:08
guard then crusher stampede made mostly
00:24:10
monsters really quite efficient then
00:24:12
their codex dropped and was arguably one
00:24:14
of the single most strongest
00:24:16
broken armies at release in august 9th
00:24:18
in the previous version of this video
00:24:20
when we looked at tournament rankings
00:24:22
they got a crazy 42 of the top 10
00:24:24
percent placings and a much much higher
00:24:26
slice percentage-wise as well games
00:24:28
workshop really hit them hard with
00:24:30
massive 10 to 20 points increases on
00:24:33
just about all of their competitive
00:24:34
units and a few army-wide nerfs such as
00:24:37
hive tyrants needing to survive to get
00:24:39
your synapse imperatives and not
00:24:41
allowing you to pick the adaptive part
00:24:43
of your high fleet adaptation reactively
00:24:45
to the opponents despite all this though
00:24:48
tyranids do seem absolutely fine which
00:24:50
kind of speaks for just how crazily far
00:24:52
ahead they were before they still seem
00:24:53
to be one of the top factions of the
00:24:55
game the list that people have been
00:24:57
coming out with do seem to be quite a
00:24:58
lot more varied now i think it's perhaps
00:25:00
quite a good time for the tyranids army
00:25:02
a lot of their units are really quite
00:25:03
effective there's multiple different
00:25:05
strategies that can work well hive
00:25:07
tyrants either on foot or with the
00:25:09
reflow obliterax are both great mass
00:25:11
warriors can come off objectives and are
00:25:14
really hard to shift in leviathan their
00:25:16
psychic phase remains powerful with
00:25:17
neurothrope's zone throbs and some
00:25:19
people are still running my receptors
00:25:21
despite the huge points nerf
00:25:22
tyrannifexes and harpies are both decent
00:25:25
damage dealers as a car effectors
00:25:27
synaptic imperatives can still give you
00:25:29
decent army-wide buffs just keep the
00:25:31
hive tyrant alive and several of the
00:25:33
higher fleets are decently playable
00:25:34
maybe kraken and leviathan being some of
00:25:36
the most outstanding along with placing
00:25:39
very well they still have a very decent
00:25:40
win percentage one of the best at 62
00:25:43
currently it does appear to be just the
00:25:45
single highest even in warzone nephilim
00:25:48
though i wouldn't be too surprised if it
00:25:49
goes down to a bit more moderate levels
00:25:51
over the next few weeks in any case
00:25:53
overall the bugs are still looking
00:25:54
really strong one of the top arm is in
00:25:56
40k still and still a massive force to
00:25:58
be feared
00:26:00
finally taking the single highest number
00:26:02
of top spots out of any of ours on the
00:26:04
list we have the adept heroitus 25
00:26:07
placings
00:26:08
going from maybe somewhat of a middle
00:26:09
tier army to perhaps one of the very
00:26:11
strongest in the entire game i'd say
00:26:13
perhaps two of their biggest assets in
00:26:15
warzone netherland where they cut the
00:26:17
points on zephyrum slightly going down
00:26:19
from 17 to 15 making really quite a
00:26:22
solid unit into an absolutely great one
00:26:24
and at that point's cost they're pretty
00:26:25
much as hard hitting a threat as things
00:26:27
like repentia or retributors as well as
00:26:29
being really quite fast at least okay
00:26:31
toughness too shoot them up with more
00:26:33
than valve's rerolls and they'll blend
00:26:35
most things in combat and between them
00:26:38
they're a pincher and the retributors
00:26:39
you can have a very dangerous elite
00:26:41
infantry squads pinging out of a hidden
00:26:43
terrain souped up with massive damage
00:26:45
boosts and hopefully kill something far
00:26:47
more valuable than themselves more than
00:26:49
valve's excellent to have in the center
00:26:50
of an army celestine's a really annoying
00:26:52
menace flying around and being hard to
00:26:54
put down miracle dies allow you to do
00:26:57
some very reliable things such as crazy
00:26:59
long charges with repentia for example
00:27:01
and feeding sixes into melted damage
00:27:03
dyes doesn't hurt either the whole homie
00:27:06
got a little bit more durable with armor
00:27:07
of content that's also helps the paragon
00:27:10
warsuits which can be an interesting
00:27:11
battle line unit too and all their
00:27:13
secondary objectives like the necrons
00:27:16
are fairly easy as well
00:27:17
most of them are fairly reliable to
00:27:19
score 10 or more points on the scoring a
00:27:21
rough win rate also seems to bear this
00:27:23
out as well 61 at ground tournaments
00:27:26
second highest overall and just behind
00:27:28
the tyranids overall at the moment it
00:27:30
does feel like tyranids sisters and
00:27:33
necrons might be some of the scariest
00:27:34
threats that you can see on the other
00:27:36
side of the table
00:27:38
so just a round up then if you're
00:27:40
interested here are just some lists of
00:27:42
the armies in order as i said i do feel
00:27:44
like both of these are relevant to weigh
00:27:46
up when you're deciding which arm is the
00:27:48
strongest or weakest in 40k and of
00:27:50
course things can get more complicated
00:27:51
with depending on whether you're playing
00:27:53
at a more competitive or casual level or
00:27:55
whether you're playing the nephilim
00:27:56
missions or say 10 best of war in
00:27:59
general though for game balance i must
00:28:01
admit things are looking a lot better
00:28:02
than they have been in quite a long time
00:28:04
there's a whole ton of factions with
00:28:05
around about 50 win percentage at the
00:28:07
moment all of which at least can
00:28:09
decently threaten the top armies even if
00:28:11
they might find them a bit more of an
00:28:12
uphill struggle it's certainly a far cry
00:28:15
to the previous state of affairs when we
00:28:16
had things like tyranids craft worlds
00:28:19
harlequins and tau as what felt like an
00:28:21
entire extra level compared with the
00:28:23
rest of the 40k armies in any case i
00:28:25
hope that's been at least somewhat
00:28:26
interesting i was certainly keen to find
00:28:28
out which armours seem to be doing
00:28:30
better or worse in nephilim and
00:28:32
hopefully this has given you at least
00:28:33
some idea of where things stand right
00:28:35
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00:28:53
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Let's talk 40K Tournament Results and which armies are strongest right now... 'Meta Mondays' Reddit post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerCompetitive/comments/w1wx42/meta_monday_71822_4_gts_and_a_check_in_on_the_rtt/ ---Patreon Page--- https://www.patreon.com/auspex ---SubscribeStar--- https://www.subscribestar.com/auspex ---Buy Warhammer 40K miniatures here--- Element Games in the UK: https://elementgames.co.uk/?d=10426 Amazon in the USA + Canada: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081GH5RBW?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B081GH5RBW ---Social Media--- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Discord: https://discord.com/invite/RrvQurN --- Subscribe to Auspex Tactics --- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Gco9PWxmJmJ5CqfbChuiQ?sub_confirmation=1 0:00 Intro 0:50 40K Tournament Results 4:18 Guard 5:31 Admech 6:16 Chaos Daemons 6:51 Genestealer Cults 7:44 Grey Knights 8:38 Drukhari 9:22 Chaos Knights 10:15 Orks 10:53 Thousand Sons 11:35 Aeldari 12:27 Custodes 13:20 Imperial Knights 14:00 Chaos Space Marines 15:08 Space Marines 18:08 Death Guard 19:02 T'au Empire 20:02 Harlequins 20:57 Necrons 23:50 Tyranids 26:00 Sisters 27:38 Final Rankings

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