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Monday January 1st Here are the00:00:16
boxes that are too high00:00:19
2024 new year new life we have00:00:22
just set foot to enter this00:00:24
new space time00:00:26
20224 we thank entity 23 for having00:00:32
which has been very challenging and00:00:35
we say goodbye to the new entity time 202400:00:38
towards which Naturally Let's00:00:40
hope for better times, even though, so00:00:43
to speak, there is no shortage of difficult situations,00:00:45
but despite this, let's try to00:00:48
keep this hope alive. Wishing each other the00:00:51
strongest and most intense best wishes to all00:00:53
our listeners. However, with the00:00:55
whole world, may every day in 2024 bring something00:00:58
good and beautiful. And then with a00:01:00
nice greeting from the undersigned Elio from00:01:03
Corrado and from Elvio Here Elvio Welcome00:01:07
again with us let's start with something I00:01:10
think beautiful this first of January00:01:12
so all modesty aside let's start with the00:01:15
beauty of a new episode of notes on00:01:18
anthroposophy and other world always thanks00:01:20
to the fundamentals historic frequencies of the00:01:22
94 MHz of Radio Gamma 5 and therefore a00:01:25
great wish to this great reality00:01:28
in its entirety of the board of00:01:29
directors listeners presenters00:01:31
true Corrado exactly Yes yes I would like to00:01:34
remind you that00:01:41
the poisoning of Rudolf00:01:44
Steiner should have occurred precisely 100 years ago because precisely at the conclusion00:01:46
of the Christmas conference there was a last00:01:49
meeting called the rout and according to00:01:53
many sources this poisoning occurred right there00:01:56
and this00:02:01
event also has a lot to do00:02:04
with the disasters that are happening in the00:02:07
world today because they are the the same00:02:10
brotherhoods that are causing what is00:02:13
happening in the world in Ukraine and in the00:02:16
Middle East are the same ones that00:02:18
wanted to poison Rudolf Steiner so00:02:21
we are subjected to the action of these00:02:23
blacks but we know that there are also00:02:26
whites and naturally we address00:02:28
them with strong00:02:30
that they give us a hand and so we00:02:33
wanted to celebrate this beginning of the00:02:35
first of the 2024 prologue with a special00:02:38
appointment of special content00:02:40
thanks to an equally00:02:43
special guest with a theme that embodies this00:02:46
prologue And in fact the theme is00:02:49
Corrado the prologue of the Gospel of00:02:53
John maximum synthesis00:02:56
of the redemptive initiation00:03:00
Yes a capital passage of the00:03:02
evangelical Christology brought by the00:03:05
Greatest Evangelist Saint John and00:03:07
an attentive00:03:10
scholar and researcher well known00:03:12
by the public of Radio Gamma 5 will lead us in this passage and in fact00:03:14
we will go to greet our guest Enzo00:03:17
nastati who telephony various connections,00:03:21
permitting, you should be listening00:03:22
to us Enzo you can certainly hear us00:03:26
Good evening everyone Good evening Sorry there00:03:30
was a bit of a mix-up with the00:03:32
telephone buttons and welcome to Radio Gamma00:03:35
5 and to the points column anthroposophy00:03:37
other world In short Enzo I turn to you00:03:39
now confidentially to you, given the00:03:41
historical attendance, we open this00:03:44
2024 with an extraordinary appointment00:03:46
given that we are in the day of celebrations.00:03:49
Let's say that we also try to make00:03:51
our success if possible, of course.00:03:54
However, Giovanni's prologue is00:03:57
an opportunity for00:03:58
knowledge, an important stimulus for life and00:04:01
very very So to know and And certainly00:04:05
the space of even this00:04:07
long broadcast and even with the limitations00:04:10
of the radio sphere will not be enough to delve into00:04:13
all the grandeur of the contents that00:04:15
the prologue brings but I think it is still00:04:18
a nice and significant00:04:19
cognitive and life stimulus to start well00:04:22
in a possibly evolving way and this00:04:26
new year then two introductory notes from00:04:29
our guest who is already well00:04:31
known to our00:04:33
listeners Enzo Nastati free scholar00:04:37
researcher in spiritual science00:04:39
promoter of initiatives and research in the00:04:41
field of arid farming00:04:44
anti-pollution architecture00:04:46
personal evolution his research work has now00:04:48
seen the publication of00:04:50
more than 10000:04:52
publications, it can be viewed on the00:04:54
arcadellavita Punit website and also in many00:04:57
conferences on YouTube on the website. Then it is00:05:00
possible to access all the00:05:03
personal growth training material which00:05:05
can be downloaded for free and then if00:05:08
someone freely wants to make a00:05:09
contribution, that's all the better and00:05:11
in any case a00:05:14
lot of work goes into these publications and regarding the gospels there00:05:17
are publications not only of the00:05:18
Gospel of John but also of the other00:05:20
three Gospels, therefore of all the four00:05:22
Gospels that can be also have there and00:05:25
let's go to the Focus of this00:05:27
evening's work whose title is the prologue of the00:05:29
Gospel of John maximum synthesis00:05:31
of the Christic redemptive initiation and00:05:34
we can also cite another00:05:36
reference that we wanted to give for00:05:38
this evening's work on the prologue that00:05:40
you had you also suggested Enzo who00:05:42
was saying what eternal essence of the mystery00:05:46
of the Christ Christ I think00:05:48
all these aspects will be touched on a bit00:05:50
and you Enzo have worked for00:05:52
many years in a group also with other00:05:55
people on recovering the most00:05:58
authentic version possible ible of the00:06:00
evangelical texts and starting above all from the00:06:02
Greek texts with details like this.00:06:05
Attention to the prologue of John and00:06:08
this is a truly Cardinal and00:06:11
central step in the evangelical Christology and00:06:14
so we said to read00:06:18
the prologue at the beginning possibly00:06:20
also with the rhythm like this of the anapest which00:06:24
it would be the very original rhythm of00:06:26
the Greek version and and then as00:06:29
we begin with your path with00:06:32
your treatment then I would try to00:06:36
read let's say this prologue00:06:38
in the version that you published in00:06:41
your works exactly as it was said just00:06:43
above well come on then let's try to give00:06:45
this reading00:06:48
Then prologue of the Gospel of00:06:53
John as the first cause there was the00:06:58
Logos00:06:59
and the logos remains with the God and God00:07:05
is the00:07:07
logos these being as the first cause00:07:12
with the00:07:14
God everything through the same has00:07:17
become alive and without him it did not00:07:22
become00:07:23
living no one of that which has become00:07:28
living00:07:30
in the same spiritual life was00:07:34
always and the spiritual life was00:07:39
always the light of men and the light00:07:43
in the darkness manifests itself and the darkness did00:07:49
not00:07:51
completely take it became a man in life00:07:55
sent by God the whose name was00:08:01
John he came as a00:08:04
witness so that he could testify00:08:06
about the light so that all00:08:11
might believe through him he was not00:08:15
the light but he came so that he could00:08:19
testify00:08:20
about the00:08:23
light he became the true light that00:08:27
illuminates every man00:08:30
who comes into the00:08:32
natural world in the world he was and the00:08:37
natural world through him became00:08:41
alive and the natural world did not00:08:47
know him to personal things he came and00:08:51
his own did not welcome him00:08:53
but all those who welcomed him have the00:09:00
power to become children of God to00:09:04
those who believe in his name00:09:09
who were born not from blood nor from the will of the00:09:13
flesh nor from the will of an00:09:17
enlightened man but from God in the00:09:23
spiritual life and the living flesh logos of00:09:30
and dwelt in us and at the same time the glory of00:09:36
him Glory As of the only begotten of a father in00:09:43
fullness of Grace00:09:45
and00:09:48
truth John testifies around him00:09:53
and proclaims00:09:56
saying he was always with whom he00:10:02
spoke the after me00:10:06
coming before me who became00:10:10
alive because he was my00:10:14
beginning and from his fullness We00:10:18
all received grace for00:10:22
grace since the law was given through Moses00:10:29
grace and00:10:32
living truth through Jesus Christ came00:10:38
God no one has always seen the00:10:44
only begotten God who in the womb of the00:10:50
father led us to00:10:58
understand him. Here we must say that00:11:00
this version brings us even more to the00:11:02
thought than the prologue is a00:11:05
truly initiatory concentration to be00:11:08
decoded and therefore a lot of work this00:11:10
evening that you bring us with your precious00:11:12
research work we remind the00:11:14
listeners who want to00:11:16
participate with their questions interventions on00:11:18
the historian 334 710 2672 that the00:11:24
recording will then be posted on the00:11:25
kelios channel with the k on telegram and also on the00:11:28
arcadellavita site00:11:30
well After this long introduction Dear00:11:33
Enzo I leave you the floor00:11:35
we listen to you with real00:11:37
interest Well thank you thank you all00:11:41
thank you for the invitation and I join in the best00:11:45
wishes for this year which00:11:47
will certainly be full of of Grace because it comes from the00:11:51
eternal father the eternal father is a God of00:11:53
love and therefore if we too sometimes00:11:55
fail to grasp the good that is there00:11:58
in events we must always00:12:01
remember him and therefore trust ourselves00:12:05
because we are not always for the our00:12:07
logic we are able to grasp the00:12:10
Divine plan well So before starting00:12:13
in the meantime I thank you again and I00:12:15
also wanted to thank all the people who00:12:18
are truly many who have helped me over time00:12:20
with whom I have collaborated to00:12:24
develop00:12:26
investigate open this text this The 1800:12:29
such00:12:31
enigmatic verses which are the prologue of00:12:34
John I allow a very small00:12:38
personal note about 40 years ago I started00:12:41
studying the prologue and I remember that I00:12:44
had written it transcribed on a sheet00:12:46
of paper so it fit on half a sheet00:12:49
and on the other half sheet I had written00:12:51
the comment so everything was on one sheet of paper00:12:55
Here we are now here to talk about for00:12:58
3 hours about this prologue Do you understand so00:13:01
in 40 years from half a sheet of paper We have00:13:03
reached a few dozen pages and00:13:07
this is the work work who knocks00:13:11
looking asks and the answers always00:13:13
they arrive very well So we can00:13:17
start with some premises00:13:19
again and I apologize for those who are a little00:13:22
more let's say that who want to get00:13:24
straight to the point we need to clarify a00:13:27
couple of points minus a couple one00:13:30
the importance of the articles in the00:13:32
Greek So the Greek is the last00:13:36
ancient Greek we speak is the last00:13:39
esoteric language, that is, suitable for enunciating and00:13:43
exposing spiritual truths, Latin00:13:47
was already the first language that killed,00:13:50
instead I actually use the verb verb to00:13:53
kill the path of initiation00:13:55
so we Italians are two steps00:13:58
after the Gre Greek and one of the00:14:01
interesting things about Greek is precisely00:14:03
the use of articles the article00:14:07
was not used in a grammatical sense as we00:14:09
use to say the dog the house00:14:12
we put the article but the article00:14:15
indicated a higher level of00:14:17
spiritual essence something to give00:14:21
an example we have in our southern00:14:24
Italy when a person for various00:14:26
titles perhaps even just age00:14:29
is called Don Here we00:14:31
add this Don to a person00:14:33
let's say non non priest or other to00:14:37
indicate a person of respect and here00:14:40
Not let's add more So this00:14:42
title Like our Dom or the de as a00:14:45
particle of nobility or the00:14:48
German Font and the ancient Greek used00:14:51
the article therefore to say Jesus and it means00:14:54
Jesus the man Jesus the Jesus is Jesus00:14:58
bearer of the Christ Therefore also all00:15:01
the dialogues change There is Peter who speaks00:15:03
then there is Peter who speaks when he speaks00:15:07
Peter answers Jesus when00:15:10
Peter speaks that is in his00:15:12
spiritual dimension superior to him00:15:15
Christ answers and you understand this immediately that all00:15:19
the dialogues take on another aspect00:15:22
last thing But really very short for00:15:26
example to say the verb to see we00:15:28
say to see and ancient Greek had 1000:15:31
different verbs to explain the concept of00:15:35
seeing seeing spiritual vision seeing00:15:39
the future seeing00:15:40
the infinite seeing with the strength of the soul00:15:45
seeing with the spirit participating in the00:15:47
life the etheric vision and so on and00:15:50
then there is also the physical vision you understand00:15:53
that we translate everything seeing but00:15:56
seeing with spiritual eyes is one00:15:58
thing seeing with physical eyes is00:16:00
another yes and to say making act there00:16:03
are six verbs understood to say take00:16:06
there are five to say say there00:16:10
are actually 11 so when in00:16:12
our Gospel we read that Jesus said00:16:16
Well this said there are 11 verbs to00:16:19
say and say and we only have one00:16:22
so we have totally lost our00:16:24
wealth enough think that the00:16:27
normal verb to say say let's always talk00:16:30
about the gospel is Leo laleo This verb00:16:34
this Greek term and it is a word a00:16:37
root from which babbling arises in00:16:40
Italian babbling would be la la la00:16:44
would be the stammerer's way of speaking00:16:46
then This means that00:16:48
Christ was a stutterer, it doesn't mean00:16:52
that he said the first things like a00:16:55
newborn child that we are, he said the00:16:58
first things, so the lava, you understand that it's00:17:01
a completely different way of explaining and00:17:04
framing the topics. This to say00:17:08
the least, let's00:17:09
move on to the I would like to give00:17:12
a general vision first because when you00:17:14
begin to exegesis the text00:17:17
word by word or at least sentence by00:17:20
sentence you tend to get a little lost. So00:17:24
there are some fundamental elements. The00:17:26
first fundamental element there are00:17:28
four concepts that John wants00:17:32
expose the four concepts end at00:17:35
verse 14 therefore from the first verse to00:17:38
14 there are four concepts the first00:17:41
concept which is what we will then read00:17:44
first is that the logos is00:17:47
God remember that for the Greek or00:17:58
philosophical world to say that it is Divine there is it is already00:18:00
a good step therefore the first concept00:18:02
that John affirms is that the logos is00:18:05
God the second concept that John00:18:08
will affirm from verse 3 to verse00:18:12
5 is that the logos is light and it is eternal life00:18:17
therefore it is God and it is a God of light and of00:18:20
eternal life the third concept which is00:18:24
verse 6 7 and 8 is that the Baptist00:18:29
arrives the character of the Baptist00:18:30
John the Baptist as a witness of the00:18:33
light therefore clarified what the logos is00:18:38
now let's say we take ourselves to the earth00:18:40
Therefore the Baptist as a witness of the00:18:43
light the fourth concept that from 9 to 1300:18:47
awaits control at 14 at 14 is that00:18:53
Christ also descends of the flesh00:18:55
as true light because00:18:58
we will say of John that he is a witness of the light but00:19:01
John the Evangelist will say he was not the00:19:04
true light. So Christ arrives00:19:06
true light so this is the first the00:19:10
first reading to see first first00:19:14
concept the logos is God that this is a00:19:18
revolution 2000 years ago Oh second00:19:20
concept the logos is light and00:19:24
eternal life third concept the Baptist arrives00:19:28
as a witness to the light but it wasn't00:19:30
him the true light fourth concept00:19:34
Christ arrives as the true light well then00:19:37
we will have from the 15th until the 18th the completion00:19:41
that John00:19:43
testifies John testifies I don't00:19:46
want to say anything because we will get there00:19:48
but this John is not understood who00:19:50
he is It is not understood Is there the Baptist or if he is00:19:53
the evangelist and we will get there whoever has00:19:57
patience will listen very well and then the00:20:00
Gospel closes the prologue in this00:20:03
Sorry in these five pillars, as if to say,00:20:07
on which the whole00:20:10
prologue moves, there is within it all the evolution00:20:13
of our evolutionary system therefore00:20:15
creation goes inside the genesis away00:20:19
within the future of humanity therefore00:20:22
intertwined in these five00:20:25
main references We have let's say the00:20:28
past the present the future00:20:30
of humanity as creation and the man who00:20:34
gives creature will become creator therefore00:20:37
there is a frightening extreme synthesis I00:20:41
often bring the example Like having00:20:43
a 10,000 m meadow in front of me here I collect00:20:47
the little flowers I make a distillate and I have 100:20:50
liter of distillate and in that liter there is00:20:53
a million different flowers00:20:56
so go and trace all the flowers00:20:59
being able only to smell the distillate00:21:02
We here we are faced with a distillation00:21:05
of everything that the gospels of the00:21:09
same gospel of John are because the00:21:11
Gospel of John in its prologue00:21:14
is still summarized. Therefore it is a text00:21:18
that can be read in a truly way.00:21:21
Let's say diagonally in transversal ways00:21:24
from many points of view it is the most one of the00:21:28
three classical Gospels I remember that Matthew00:21:32
corresponds mainly to the00:21:35
physical world and for the physical body of man00:21:37
the wisdom that is imprinted in the00:21:40
physical body Mark is more linked00:21:43
to the hero of Christ in the etheric body00:21:46
of man Luke is linked to the soul So00:21:49
all the miracles the healings and00:21:52
John is the Gospel of Lio which is the00:21:54
Gospel of today our era is00:21:56
the era of the Gospel of John and00:21:59
Steiner When he talks about the Gospel he says the00:22:01
gospels Yes today after 2000 years we can00:22:05
begin to understand them but the00:22:08
Gospel of John says we should00:22:10
expect another 2000 years i.e. in 400000:22:14
man will have the strength to understand the00:22:16
Gospel of John we know that00:22:18
every 2000 years is a level of00:22:21
initiation in the history of humanity00:22:24
therefore today to read and try to00:22:26
understand the Gospel of John00:22:29
we should be at least men of the 4000's00:22:32
therefore widely initiated we00:22:36
will be satisfied with much less we will do00:22:38
what we can do but we must be00:22:41
very clear about what we are faced with00:22:43
we are faced with a text with not seven00:22:48
seals but 77 seals that slowly00:22:53
open the conscience of man00:22:56
as man opens up to00:22:58
Because there is always the phrase you will all be00:23:01
instructed directly by God therefore00:23:04
this is not a00:23:06
human instruction the non-rational empirical human mind00:23:10
cannot getting to understand00:23:12
the Word of John proves that00:23:15
in the Catholic liturgy it is read on00:23:19
Christmas Sunday on Christmas Day00:23:21
Sorry and in my experience it has never been00:23:25
commented on yes the only one of the year I heard it on00:23:29
the 31st Well then I did a00:23:32
repetition but it is not commented on or00:23:36
because it is a text that goes beyond00:23:39
the prison let's say00:23:42
so I would like to say a little chiastic of00:23:45
how the message of Christ is lived00:23:49
well then with this let's say this00:23:53
framework this frame that I00:23:55
tried to create together00:23:58
let's try to enter inside the text Yes and00:24:02
you Elio following me Yes tell me if it's00:24:05
clear enough and I'll start doing00:24:09
Yes yes you know what your00:24:12
audio sounds a bit muffled but00:24:14
now I don't know I have earphones eh C00:24:17
but maybe it's okay, come on, let's carry on00:24:19
like this. However, they tell me that from the outside it00:24:21
still sounds good on the00:24:22
radio so ok. Okay, if there are any00:24:24
problems, I'll remove it and put them on to be00:24:26
more free. Yes, but I don't know where to put00:24:28
the cell phone. Yes, it's okay. well then00:24:31
let's start00:24:33
Well something should also be said about the00:24:36
term prologue Which means prologos00:24:38
therefore in favor of logos but eh here00:24:42
other discussions open up because in00:24:44
ancient Greek there are four terms for saying00:24:47
word we say word and it ended00:24:50
in ancient Greek there there was rhyme there was Lemma00:24:56
there was Mitos and there was logos therefore rhyme00:25:00
means the word that part of the00:25:04
word which demonstrates what the truth00:25:07
of God from which theorem teos rhyme teos00:25:11
means God theorem and here00:25:14
a reading should be made of the theorems Euclid00:25:17
Pythagoras Thales which expressed according to let00:25:20
's say geometric logics in reality00:25:23
very high spiritual truths therefore the00:25:26
world of theorems then there was the Emma00:25:28
the Emma would derive the em misis00:25:32
Therefore the creative word emerges the sign that00:25:34
the creative word leaves then there was00:25:37
Mitos the mythology therefore the00:25:40
evocative word and at the end the one that closed00:25:43
that enclosed everything was the logos00:25:46
so you also understand the richness of the00:25:48
Greek vocabulary four words to00:25:51
say word but they said four things00:25:54
four different levels well having said this00:25:58
let's begin therefore first verse as00:26:03
first cause there was the logos So00:26:06
this is in the first concept the logos00:26:08
and God And John00:26:12
will express this concept with four waves there are00:26:14
as you imagine in arrives at the sea00:26:16
a wave arrives then it goes back then00:26:19
another wave arrives it finds the ground00:26:21
the sand is already wet and therefore it goes a little00:26:24
further it goes back it retreats00:26:27
the third wave arrives and then the00:26:30
fourth wave arrives which completes all of00:26:33
Giovanni's work and expresses itself in the logic of00:26:35
3 + 1 i.e. three waves plus one which00:26:40
completes it 3 + 1 because it is the Divine logic00:26:44
one and Triune we always say father00:26:47
son Holy Spirit but we forget00:26:49
that one and Triune therefore the logic of God00:26:53
is not the trinity the trinity is the logic00:26:55
of the soul think whether to feel and want and00:26:59
yes while the logic spiritual of 3 + 100:27:02
therefore he initiated from 4000 AD00:27:06
let's put it this way he expresses himself with00:27:09
these dynamics and we slowly00:27:12
try to understand them therefore the first00:27:15
wave as the primary cause was the logos00:27:20
So normally we have the text00:27:22
that who knows a little ' knows it and says00:27:25
in the beginning vi to the logos no S So in the00:27:29
beginning if I read in the00:27:31
beginning what I understand I understand at00:27:33
the beginning in the beginning at the beginning No the00:27:37
beginning of the evening at 8:00 in the evening00:27:39
is the beginning of the evening then in Greek00:27:43
this in the beginning which would be enarch It00:27:47
absolutely does not have00:27:49
a temporal aspect but00:27:53
as the first cause the origin of things but00:27:56
not as a clock as a date But as a00:28:00
force Prime of every event another00:28:04
extremely valid translation of this00:28:07
enarch is the foundation Therefore the00:28:11
first cause, the foundation of everything that00:28:15
comes after, is the logos, therefore there is00:28:18
nothing outside the logos. This is the first00:28:21
Pillar that John places as the00:28:26
first cause of everything is the logos. Of course,00:28:30
there is also time. but there is also00:28:32
space there is light there is love there are many00:28:34
things but everything is brought this00:28:37
primordial element the foundation the00:28:40
first cause therefore as the first cause there00:28:45
was because there was there was because it is a00:28:47
past however the past because it is an00:28:50
origin but for us the problem is that00:28:53
the00:28:55
past as a verb tense of the Greeks00:28:58
is not our present perfect I say I00:29:01
was there period no this Viera this00:29:05
present perfect is a past that has the00:29:08
strength to continue in time therefore it00:29:11
is not a Viera to say I'll tell you00:29:15
something about so many millennia ago But I'll tell you00:29:18
something the foundation that was00:29:21
millennia ago and which continues to00:29:25
be this is very clear because00:29:28
we are talking about a Greek text not00:29:32
an Italian text nor even a text00:29:34
Latin that these refinements do not have We00:29:37
have a poor language and pazen00:29:41
we lose we do a lot of stuff we do00:29:44
what we can but I have to00:29:46
discover this to rediscover this00:29:49
Therefore as the first cause as the foundation00:29:52
there was and continues to act to be the there00:29:58
therefore the logos has the article if it has00:30:01
The article is Divine therefore it is not logos00:30:05
as a philosophical element of knowledge00:30:09
but having00:30:10
the article John places the logos on a00:30:13
Divine level This is the first00:30:16
message the logos is God and is the00:30:19
foundation of everything it was and remains00:30:22
forever This is the first00:30:25
concept Indeed the first wave of this00:30:30
concept and therefore it is still operative00:30:32
in short And therefore it is still operative as00:30:35
Of course it is still operative Of course then what do00:30:40
we have this already for the Jews it00:30:43
was let's say like this An element of00:30:47
crucifixion let's put it so00:30:52
because00:30:55
John begins to articulate and00:30:58
we will always see it after what is00:31:00
the Trinitarian element of the Divine While00:31:03
for the Jews there was Adonai The00:31:07
Lord God and everything ended there then00:31:09
let's leave aside the genesis yes and others00:31:11
but let's say those close to us00:31:15
therefore John says that the logos was00:31:19
already in what you Jews call00:31:21
Adonai and Adonai I say it in the00:31:26
represents the Zodiac is man created00:31:29
image and likeness of God light in the00:31:32
light love in love therefore the stars00:31:36
we do not have the light within us or00:31:38
at least when I open my mouth I see00:31:40
black and inside us we don't only have00:31:43
behaviors of love and we don't say00:31:45
anything else no So John says on the one00:31:49
hand that there is continuity between the00:31:51
Jewish message and it is what00:31:54
Christianity brings but it will bring you this00:31:57
element this Divine element is innovative00:32:00
and we will then see how it will00:32:03
unfold. Well having said this, let's insert00:32:07
another thing that very often the00:32:11
Greek words are acronyms. What does00:32:14
acronym mean, does it mean if I say Fiat00:32:17
I am saying Fabbrica Italiana automobile00:32:20
Torino This is an acronym well00:32:24
therefore the letters that make up a00:32:27
word in turn each letter has a00:32:29
precise meaning You understand that00:32:32
a library opens up you understand it is no longer a00:32:37
comment on a prologue because each00:32:40
word in turn opens onto other00:32:43
dimensions So we will do some of them00:32:45
together eh Now we will precisely do the00:32:48
famous as first cause badly translated00:32:52
as in the beginning or and better translated00:32:55
as foundation it is in Greek it is en archei00:32:59
I pronounce it as I read it because it is00:33:02
useless to make fake Greeks therefore en00:33:05
archei would be inarchi okay it begins00:33:08
with the e and it means00:33:12
l the expansion is the prologue begins00:33:14
with an expansion of what n00:33:18
n the mind is the law of God as a00:33:22
project therefore the logos therefore n00:33:26
means the expansion of the law of God00:33:28
as a project as logos therefore in the00:33:31
first and in the first word and n two00:33:36
letters has already said the whole prologue has00:33:38
already said the whole Gospel it's incredible00:33:40
eh It's incredible then there is archaea so a a00:33:44
means therefore00:33:48
the expansion begins in the mind of the mind00:33:51
Sorry about the thought of the00:33:53
divine law which as a project the00:33:56
evolutionary plan begins to manifest itself as00:33:58
logos a begins00:34:01
R the father therefore begins as a father as the00:34:06
will of the father00:34:07
C Here where we are it would be the famous here and00:34:11
now C there is Christ inside eh E to00:34:15
expand00:34:17
the final in the connection between the spirit00:34:21
the earth the i is like a column so00:34:23
I read it all once so en00:34:27
archei means the expansion of the00:34:29
mind mind as the law of God as a00:34:33
project As an evolutionary plan and therefore00:34:35
as logos it begins in the will of the00:34:39
father Here where we are expanding00:34:44
to bring a new connection between the00:34:48
spirit and matter well You understand what a00:34:52
desperate undertaking it is to understand00:34:54
Giovanni's proof Oh yes and we have only00:34:57
read two words Yes it opens it opens universes00:35:00
in short universes you said00:35:02
right universes are no longer let's say00:35:05
culture they are universes then and I take the liberty00:35:09
of marking a lot because the prologue of00:35:12
John itself summarizes the whole Gospel00:35:14
therefore the last line of the Pro Giovanni00:35:16
will talk about the Resurrection and the00:35:18
Victory over death to understand but00:35:21
now he is talking about the beginning of the00:35:23
Gospel which would be let's say the00:35:26
annunciation would still be Mary therefore00:35:28
the beginning that the Divine plan that00:35:30
begins to manifest itself therefore between enarch00:35:33
and at the end that we will have the only begotten in the womb00:35:37
of the father we will have the whole path00:35:40
of humanity represented by the Gospel00:35:43
So it is an infinite path that er RAC00:35:46
closed in 18 verses00:35:48
eh It is an a feat a feat is a feat00:35:52
when I said yes to you00:35:54
this evening I'll tell you as a friend I00:35:57
regretted it three times00:35:59
let's say because every time I take it00:36:02
in hand Then it's always different I tell the00:36:04
truth Now I would like to make another00:36:06
comparison to understand what sacred00:36:09
writing is let's take the Bible in hand the00:36:12
Bible in Italian begins with these00:36:15
words in the00:36:16
beginning therefore00:36:19
John begins his Gospel with the00:36:23
same words with which the Old00:36:25
Testament begins there is indeed a continuity00:36:28
only that the Old Testament is00:36:30
written in Hebrew it is not written in00:36:32
Greek and Hebrew what we00:36:35
translate in the beginning is berish berish00:36:40
now none of us know Hebrew00:36:42
but we can give it a00:36:45
try then00:36:47
berish this is also a word that is00:36:49
made up of three words be rish and then CH00:36:54
final berish so be means00:36:57
the beginning rish means the change00:37:02
the transformation and it happens to us and the Christ00:37:05
who will come to the end so the Old00:37:08
Testament tells you there is a beginning the00:37:10
genesis there is a change the00:37:12
transformation the exodus all that00:37:15
the books of the Bible are and then at the00:37:18
end because it happens to us at the end00:37:21
Christ arrives This is the beginning of the Old00:37:25
Testament and not in the beginning both of00:37:29
these translations in the beginning00:37:31
are precisely to mislead from the 'beginning00:37:34
Here in the beginning they mislead you and you never00:37:37
get out of it so also this00:37:40
berish this Old Testament you see00:37:43
that in reality it is much closer to the00:37:45
New Testament another culture00:37:47
another language others another story00:37:51
but in the spiritual element we find00:37:54
the same basis sorry Here is the00:37:57
word and I wanted to ask you00:38:00
about ancient Greek and how did you00:38:03
manage to know the meaning of the00:38:07
letters of00:38:09
the alphabet Yes then I have done00:38:12
in my life I frequented Greece a lot00:38:15
because I held courses and in00:38:18
Greece there are many people who know00:38:19
Italian because when one is unable00:38:22
to write the university And because they have00:38:24
a limited number they do it in Italy and00:38:26
therefore they know Italian and clearly when00:38:29
the evenings after the courses were over there was the00:38:32
meeting of the Italian Greeks with00:38:34
myself and I put a00:38:37
topic of discussion on the table which was always00:38:39
Giovanni's prologue Ah I00:38:41
kept saying Help me to00:38:43
understand the meaning of and I will remember one00:38:45
evening that a girl Marianna can be00:38:48
called a beautiful person he says to me But00:38:51
look, for us00:38:52
enarch doesn't mean in the beginning Eh00:38:55
the world has fallen But how does it not mean in the00:38:58
beginning No no for us it doesn't have00:39:00
this meaning at all here it's something00:39:03
more important Then we constructed00:39:05
the exact words No but something that is00:39:07
unrelated to time and in this group00:39:10
there was a00:39:11
lady who had done a lot of00:39:15
spiritual work and knew00:39:18
esoteric Greek she knew Greek therefore she00:39:20
knew the Gospel letter by letter00:39:22
even the numbers are very complicated and00:39:25
also the syllables another value So00:39:28
now I'm doing the letters then there00:39:30
are also the the the syllables which have00:39:33
another meaning00:39:36
and more than one evening it was me with the00:39:40
pen, the sheet of paper in my hand and her00:39:42
explaining the esoteric Greek to me00:39:44
so I thank you aleca Alessandra00:39:48
aleca who taught me gave me00:39:51
these instructions on esoteric Greek and00:39:53
therefore Hebrew also has the same00:39:55
function OG every letter has a00:39:57
meaning in short yes Hebrew outside of00:39:59
speaking is better and for us Italians it is00:40:02
worse C we feel really00:40:05
paralyzed in front of this every00:40:07
letter of Hebrew is also a number it's00:40:09
even more complicated then I learned that00:40:12
Hebrew didn't write vowels and00:40:15
only wrote consonants it didn't have00:40:17
punctuation so it was an00:40:20
infinite row of consonants if I write00:40:23
RM I can say Remo branch00:40:26
love love understand and the scribes were not00:40:32
those who knew how to write but the00:40:34
scribes were those who knew how to read00:40:36
i.e. they had a level of initiation00:40:39
to be able to, let's say, guess which00:40:43
vowels to insert into those00:40:45
consonants then there were no dots00:40:47
commas there was nothing so where00:40:49
does a sentence end goodnight So it was00:40:52
a work of initiation they are00:40:55
esoteric texts they are not texts as they have00:40:58
become now so for dissemination00:41:01
we also use this term the Greek the00:41:04
Greek at least has vowels it has00:41:05
punctuations but it wasn't like that it's not00:41:08
even Greek like Italian for example00:41:10
so rich that full stops00:41:13
semicolons full stops you understand this too00:41:15
needs to be interpreted But let's00:41:17
move on because we are just at the first00:41:19
verse Thanks for the question because in00:41:22
this way I also thanked my00:41:24
Greek friends so We are now to the first00:41:29
concept first wave of the first concept00:41:32
let's face the second wave the second00:41:35
wave what is it is the logos remains with the00:41:39
god So now we are at another00:41:43
level So the Logos that we have00:41:47
seen that John says is a God00:41:50
remains with the God but if God is God00:41:54
Who is the god the God means that he is a00:41:57
superior God because the article brings a00:41:59
higher level Then if the first God00:42:03
without the article represents for us00:42:05
Adonai Or the zodiac or the Holy00:42:09
Trinity the God is the Holy Trinity00:42:13
term which is lost eh Holy00:42:15
Trinity means the divine of the entire00:42:18
Cosmos the one that governs the entire Cosmos00:42:21
up to the last Star therefore John00:42:24
says and the Logos And therefore remember that the00:42:27
logos is Divine it remains it no longer was there but00:42:32
it remains with the god therefore the Holy00:42:36
Trinity imagine The Zodiac borders00:42:39
with the whole Cosmos therefore the Holy00:42:41
Trinity borders with the whole Holy00:42:45
Trinity therefore it is near bordering I00:42:48
say the term bordering to understand00:42:50
why there are no borders let's say00:42:53
customs there eh everything in everything in the infinite00:42:56
multiplicity however there are00:42:58
specificities therefore the logos the00:43:02
divine Logos that we can take it00:43:05
up to the Zodiac it remains there it was and now it00:43:10
remains near the god at the00:43:13
Holy Trinity And here it is already00:43:16
true to say as you say that it is very00:43:18
easy to do this there is no it is precisely the00:43:22
knowledge of this difference between the00:43:23
holy and the Most Holy Trinity therefore Yes00:43:26
it is also difficult for those who have not done00:43:27
this work of distinction to make it00:43:31
In short In fact yes yes I00:43:33
perfectly agree it is one of the big00:43:35
problems up to perhaps 100 years ago to00:43:38
say a number there was still something00:43:41
that remained because in a language that00:43:43
we now define00:43:45
as nineteenth-century we talked about ID God we00:43:49
talked about God and ID God and ID God00:43:53
would be God with the article in Italian00:43:56
clearly No but there was there anyone who00:43:59
still had this knowledge between the00:44:02
difference between God the Holy Trinity and the00:44:05
God Then clearly everything was lost00:44:08
Yes we know this but the fact that00:44:11
everything was lost does not mean that00:44:13
we must continue to lose things00:44:15
well We have lost and now we find ourselves00:44:17
with another conscience, no longer by00:44:20
tradition, no longer by having received it from00:44:23
mum, dad or from the priest in church but00:44:26
now I freely realize that I00:44:29
relate to the Holy Trinity because00:44:33
the logos is of the Holy Trinity but there are00:44:37
evolutionary systems in the Cosmos they are00:44:40
infinite and every evolutionary system has a00:44:43
logos, a law, a foundation that is not00:44:46
ours, they do other things, but00:44:49
throughout the Cosmos there must be a00:44:51
coordination, for now I use this00:44:53
word of all the Logos, that is, there must00:44:56
be a logos of all the logos and the00:44:59
logos of all logos therefore the logos00:45:02
of the Holy Trinity has a name and is00:45:05
called Christ therefore Christ is nothing other00:45:10
than the logos of the Holy Trinity00:45:12
which will then descend on Jesus at baptism00:45:16
Jordan bearer of the earthly logos00:45:20
Therefore we will have Jesus logos Christ the one00:45:24
of the three years of public V should00:45:27
be called Jesus bearer of the logos and00:45:30
bearer of the Christ therefore the logos of00:45:32
all the logos the Christ came down In the00:45:36
logos Jesus for what to give us the way00:45:39
out of the fall because our00:45:42
Logos who did everything did not have the00:45:45
plan b and I use a term a bit00:45:48
so to speak today to get us out00:45:50
of the fall which means death and00:45:53
Christ did it as if through Jesus00:45:57
by conquering death therefore he inserted00:45:59
this factor of Resurrection and00:46:02
our logos I would always like to say using00:46:05
human words that are reductive I00:46:07
apologize he has learned he has seen what the00:46:11
new path is to bring man to00:46:14
salvation therefore Christ the logos of00:46:17
all logos has descended into our logos00:46:20
of the Holy Trinity because through00:46:23
so that through Jesus death might be conquered00:46:27
and therefore brought the message of00:46:30
Resurrection And therefore that00:46:33
evolution continues Even for man and00:46:36
for the earth otherwise man is finished00:46:39
and we are out Yes it seems like00:46:41
this thing seems to complicate but in reality it gives00:46:43
a new breath to the soul But I00:46:46
think we understand. Then clearly we00:46:48
understand we also need to have an00:46:50
open mind and I don't know who is listening to us00:46:52
maybe driving the car it's better to00:46:54
stop because to listen to this he doesn't00:46:56
see the red light let's say no it00:46:59
takes concentration but let's get back to us00:47:03
second we are always in the first verse00:47:06
Think a little and the logos remains with00:47:09
the god therefore the god logos remains does not00:47:15
go away does not abandon us at the00:47:18
Holy Trinity because from there he will receive00:47:22
the Christ to be able in turn to help00:47:24
man well We are always that the concept00:47:29
the first concept that logos is God and00:47:31
this is the second wave which therefore00:47:34
remains with the god we enter the00:47:36
third wave and God is the logos and God is the00:47:42
logos therefore God the Holy Trinity is the00:47:46
logos it no longer remains it is And then Here00:47:50
we must be careful a third00:47:52
thing00:47:54
that the Christ is for us in our00:48:00
terminology we have called him00:48:02
characterized as the I am I am it is00:48:06
he who brought us the I am therefore00:48:09
speaking of the Christ and therefore also of the00:48:11
Logos who becomes its bearer means00:48:14
speaking of the verb to be I am he who00:48:18
is says Christ no So here00:48:20
we had in these always in these00:48:24
verses we are in the first verse00:48:27
we found that the foundation was there00:48:33
and then we said that it is a perfect00:48:35
which then continues we have seen that00:48:37
it persists now we have seen that it is00:48:40
therefore we conjugated the verb to be00:48:44
by conjugating we John did it by00:48:46
conjugating the verb to be he gave00:48:50
completeness to the being of Christ So00:48:53
he is talking about the00:48:56
but he is talking to us about the logos and he is00:48:58
telling us that the logos is one of the00:49:02
expressions of Christ then he will say it much00:49:05
more clearly clearer No really00:49:07
clearer no but let's say he00:49:08
will argue it better therefore we have00:49:11
arrived the third wave that God is the00:49:14
logos00:49:17
Well good00:49:19
then00:49:21
therefore with00:49:23
this articulation of the verb being00:49:27
John in his Gospel wants to00:49:29
testify to the birth of the being of00:49:31
the I am in man because it is clear00:49:34
that God exists, the I is not00:49:36
even to be said but the I is born00:49:39
in man00:49:40
so why the logos our place00:49:43
logos becomes its bearer therefore we00:49:46
are inside this evolutionary system00:49:49
So if I work I open myself I commit00:49:53
I will receive the strength of the I am receive00:49:56
the strength of the I am as we will see in the00:49:58
following verses it will take me it will take me00:50:01
to the verse 18 that I will become00:50:05
the only begotten and I will see God00:50:08
only begotten means born Duno no longer from00:50:12
father and mother but there will be a part of me00:50:14
that will be born from one from who from the father00:50:18
therefore a new thing will be born in me and00:50:22
we will get there but here you are by putting the00:50:24
premises you recognize yourself as a being00:50:27
that is us nowadays on the00:50:32
spiritual path. We read, we read, some more,00:50:35
some less for goodness' sake. However, we are capable of00:50:37
devouring books well but it is of no use. It is of no use00:50:41
devouring00:50:45
study is useful to understand that there is no00:50:47
it is necessary to00:50:48
study what is important is00:50:51
to be I must be the concept that I00:50:54
study not to read it and repeat it like in00:50:57
school the esoteric study is not the00:51:00
study the school study that00:51:03
things were repeated after three days00:51:05
you forgot everything because you didn't00:51:08
love it the spiritual study that the first00:51:12
step of the Rosicrucian intention that00:51:14
study means connecting00:51:17
to the truth you are reading you no00:51:19
longer forget it because you have loved it if you00:51:23
have connected to a spiritual truth00:51:25
therefore an aspect of God and God is love and00:51:28
therefore not the you forget more This is00:51:30
study so you also have to00:51:32
learn to study In short absolutely learn to00:51:35
read if you learn to00:51:38
study things happen I don't want to00:51:41
open other chapters but the first00:51:43
thing that happens is that you free your00:51:45
Adam look at you because we all00:51:48
have an Adam there Adam we all00:51:51
have a fallen part Mh all of us the00:51:54
Jesus Christ at Golgotha liberated00:51:58
the Adam archetypal macrocosm Sorry00:52:00
Enzo we have 10 seconds and so00:52:04
conclude and stay with us but I conclude00:52:07
done nothing because soon yes yes00:52:10
then S now the tost commercial starts00:52:44
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to00:52:58
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and we'll be back we'll be back live the00:53:20
second hour of the show notes on00:53:22
anthroposophy other world Monday January00:53:25
2024 Best wishes again to those who are00:53:28
listening to a new year full of good00:53:30
health things above all and let us remember00:53:34
that we are with a truly00:53:36
exceptional guest Enzo Nastati who is00:53:39
bringing us the theme of precisely the00:53:43
prologue of the Gospel of John the00:53:45
title is the prologue of the Gospel of00:53:46
John maximum synthesis00:53:48
of the Christic redemptive initiation from00:53:51
the very first lines we understand that the00:53:54
situation it's very demanding, very00:53:56
complicated and in fact I don't know if I00:53:58
too agree with what00:53:59
Enzo was saying about regretting having proposed this00:54:02
topic but Enzo you hear us Of course here And00:54:07
here we say that However there could be the00:54:09
risk of opening another chapter However00:54:10
I'm only saying as an aside, no, while this is how00:54:13
we also felt to put00:54:15
precisely this broadcast00:54:18
and your word foundation in fact00:54:22
sent me back to an association which is perhaps00:54:24
a bit risky to what was given to us00:54:26
just 100 years ago by Rudol Steiner with00:54:29
the foundation stone in his00:54:31
truly powerful meditation soul00:54:34
of man the foundation of a new00:54:36
human path that given by Steiner is00:54:40
a new foundation as is also the00:54:41
prologue of John recalls the00:54:43
foundation of a new as if to say00:54:45
knowledge of a New Humanity Thanks00:54:48
precisely to verb Logos who became00:54:51
flesh yes It's a bit incredible then this00:54:54
synchronicity no to talk about the beginning00:54:57
prologue of this new year 2024 of the00:54:59
foundation of the prologue of John and00:55:02
exactly 100 years from the00:55:04
foundation stone given by Rudol Stan that00:55:06
that too is a prologue in some way00:55:09
that opens up new horizons and so there's00:55:12
like there's a red thread that00:55:15
connects all these things00:55:18
and yet in short we have a lot of stuff I don't know00:55:21
if you want to say a few words about00:55:23
this but00:55:26
Yes but first I'll go continue with the prologue00:55:29
because otherwise we have to have read00:55:33
two lines. You understand, therefore, I have to put00:55:35
a little more meat on the fire and then00:55:38
we can try to draw a parallel00:55:41
between the foundation of the prologue and the00:55:44
foundation of the manel of the soul00:55:47
of man, the stone of foundation but00:55:49
we will get there Little by little we are missing we are00:55:52
missing a couple of fundamental concepts00:55:54
otherwise they won't act as a bridge00:55:56
Here we are missing We only have the word00:55:58
foundation00:56:00
but we need more In my opinion Meanwhile00:56:03
messages are arriving that I hope00:56:04
we can give a little listening00:56:06
Anyway please yes Well then after00:56:09
an hour of work we arrive at verse00:56:11
number two congratulations and verse00:56:15
number two is the fourth wave of the first00:56:17
concept that logo yes God When In00:56:20
this one says these So the the logos00:56:23
being as the first cause at the God00:56:27
What does it mean So these the logos00:56:30
being one more the verb to be which00:56:33
continues to maintain itself as the first cause00:56:36
as the foundation with the god we have the00:56:39
synthesis of what we have said three00:56:42
aspects have been said three actors have00:56:44
been called into question and now the three00:56:47
actors they return So we have the00:56:50
foundation the logos as the first cause and00:56:54
then the God as the Holy Trinity00:56:56
So we have the logos and the Holy00:56:59
Trinity is in the middle of this action00:57:01
let's say the00:57:03
foundation the synthesis the synthesis of00:57:06
what we have said I'm going a little00:57:07
faster because otherwise we will do it in00:57:10
a year in the end yes Next year00:57:12
In short good Now let's enter into the second00:57:15
concept the logos is light and eternal life00:57:19
So with verse 3 John brings a00:57:23
second concept and says everything through00:57:27
the same has become alive and without00:57:31
him no became alive no one of00:57:34
what became living well then00:57:38
Let's start everything and here here here what is everything00:57:41
talking about everything for us everything00:57:44
Who knows the anthroposophical vision00:57:47
of creation everything is Ancient Saturn00:57:50
because the first step of the evolution00:57:53
of the earth is the ancient Saturn this00:57:55
enormous sphere of heat where everything00:57:58
began So everything through the00:58:01
same has become alive and here there is00:58:04
something that we already have to00:58:07
Eh how to say develop00:58:11
because through the same therefore it00:58:14
means that all the conditions that were00:58:19
still the beginnings of 'Ancient Saturn00:58:21
passed through the logus this00:58:24
passing through him means that00:58:27
he gave him life and we00:58:30
will find this again in the Gospel always at00:58:33
Gessani when Christ will say father if00:58:36
possible let this Chalice pass away from00:58:39
me but if your will that come00:58:41
through me understand this this00:58:45
through we find it here and00:58:47
we will find it gemali then that Chalice which00:58:50
is the chalice of the last supper which he did not00:58:53
bless because it contained the evil00:58:56
of the world it is not that however this is00:58:59
another topic we will stop there however says00:59:02
possibly that it passes away from me00:59:05
but that if it is your will that it passes00:59:07
through me because00:59:10
Christian work is not fighting evil it is not00:59:13
opposing evil but letting00:59:16
evil pass through it to transform it in our00:59:20
hearts into good This is the battle that the00:59:24
love love does not fight with fists00:59:27
or kicks love fights by losing00:59:31
by being crucified and losing00:59:34
on the physical plane You win on the00:59:36
spiritual plane therefore this through00:59:38
me It means that everything has been sublimated00:59:41
transformed into the strength of the love of the00:59:44
logos00:59:45
therefore Giovanni finished saying that the00:59:49
logos is God says everything through00:59:52
him became alive00:59:55
therefore life and without him00:59:58
no one became alive of what01:00:02
became living So therefore everything01:00:06
became alive through him but no01:00:09
one What does no one mean The01:00:11
problem is that one I can say one01:00:14
as a number and one as an article no one is01:00:17
an article But this one here instead is one01:00:20
as a number01:00:22
i.e. the capos the one as the principle01:00:26
Here this is a true principle we could01:00:28
say I of group archetypal spirits01:00:31
that that we want, however, no one01:00:34
no entity that therefore will have01:00:37
evolution became alive if it did not01:00:40
pass through him because there are01:00:43
other entities that come from other01:00:45
evolutionary systems such as Ahriman which is not01:00:47
from our solar system and therefore did not01:00:50
pass through the logos we can01:00:53
say more so today, today that Christ01:00:56
manifests himself in the etheric plane, there is the01:00:58
possibility of making01:01:00
that one who remains pass through us and this is01:01:04
another discussion yet here it opens Yes01:01:06
again Oh well but if we want to think01:01:09
about Christianity it is like this there are some01:01:11
questions that come really01:01:13
strong scats Oh well oh well please please Well because01:01:16
2000 years ago he transformed Lucifer01:01:18
The good thief saying tonight you will be01:01:21
with me in heaven The Bad thief he01:01:23
represents remains however no because01:01:25
it is not yet time now after 2000 years01:01:28
when the Christ manifests himself in the01:01:30
etheric plane It's time for the transformation of01:01:33
Ahriman And what do you do you fight it no you let yourself01:01:37
cross it and you transform it in your01:01:40
heart and therefore Doo get to the heart but01:01:43
this is another one says we will get to the one01:01:45
parent when we get to the one parent01:01:47
we will understand what we are saying So he is01:01:51
saying that the logos is life the logos is not01:01:54
a philosophical category the logos01:01:57
is life and through the logos everything01:01:59
becomes alive everything and now01:02:02
I add it that the logos is01:02:04
manifesting itself like Christ in the01:02:06
etheric plane it expands the concept of what01:02:10
becomes living therefore can01:02:12
become a help to humanity if01:02:15
men do it. The problem is that01:02:18
man has to do this. But if man01:02:21
doesn't even have the idea that he has to do this01:02:22
job he will hardly fall alone so as01:02:25
not to say that it is impossible so now01:02:29
let's move forward in the same always in the01:02:31
logus spiritual life has always been01:02:35
therefore spiritual life in Greek it is said01:02:39
Zoe it is pronounced zoi which is something01:02:42
different from biological life which yes which01:02:46
Bios therefore what does existence mean in01:02:49
Italian Bios does not mean life the01:02:52
exact translation would be Enza and01:02:55
existing means being born growing up having01:02:57
children dying Bios is an arc zo instead01:03:02
eternal life cosmic life the life that01:03:04
was and and will therefore be in the logos in the01:03:08
same spiritual life Zoe was from always01:03:12
therefore the logos being the01:03:15
zodiac element has always been the bearer of01:03:18
life eternal life because we must01:03:20
arrive at eternal life we want to01:03:22
overcome life earthly death to01:03:24
arrive where to arrive in01:03:26
eternal life Therefore life is also a01:03:27
foundation spiritual life Zoe the01:03:30
universal life has always been the light01:03:33
of men Here is the other passage01:03:36
the other passage that says that the logos01:03:39
is light eternal life he told us01:03:42
eternal spiritual life and now C says that it is01:03:44
light but here he is actually saying01:03:48
something else what that is, in the01:03:51
anthroposophical reading there is another message01:03:54
everything was Ancient Saturn then this01:03:58
ancient Saturn was permeated with01:04:01
spiritual life but the spiritual life We01:04:03
call it the hetero the cosmic hetero but01:04:06
the cosmic hetero was added01:04:08
to the ancient sun therefore he is saying the01:04:11
evolutionary steps ancient Saturn Ancient01:04:13
Sun and then he says the01:04:16
light this becomes the light of men01:04:19
the light is the astral Ity and in man the01:04:23
becoming the astral body was added01:04:26
on the ancient Moon therefore in these two01:04:28
verses he is saying all01:04:31
Steimer's occult science The Ancient Saturn01:04:34
The Ancient Sun and The Ancient Moon So01:04:37
all this always connected to the verb01:04:40
to be everything becomes living becomes01:04:44
this verb becoming in Greek is a01:04:47
particular verb it would be egeneto which01:04:49
would be this being born grow01:04:52
develop and not die and continue to01:04:56
be while instead Bios you are born grow01:04:59
you develop and die of men are01:05:02
important because if this this01:05:04
spiritual life was the light of men01:05:06
in short men are important in01:05:08
some way men are01:05:10
very important men are a01:05:13
speck to put it like this a microbe in the01:05:16
Cosmos But man being the bearer01:05:19
of Freedom He is the pivot between on the one01:05:23
hand with this imaginary scale on01:05:25
one hand we have the evolutionary plan01:05:27
of the father and on the other plate of the01:05:29
Scale we have the evolution of everything01:05:32
and the two plates are connected at the center01:05:35
by man There is man has the power to01:05:40
be an instrument of the evolution of the01:05:42
whole Therefore the Christ man or01:05:45
the selfish man Let's just say selfish and01:05:48
therefore01:05:49
the evolution I don't know how it will happen but01:05:52
therefore the man is a fundamental Mercurial element01:05:55
in all evolution well01:05:59
then we have seen that the second01:06:00
concept that John brings01:06:04
we have the evolution of the entire Cosmos01:06:08
simply in two lines he has01:06:10
put all the evolution for you And and courage01:06:14
for us so everything like ancient Saturn01:06:16
who becomes becomes this verb01:06:18
becoming without ever stopping becomes01:06:21
living and without him01:06:24
nothing has become no one has become01:06:27
living because everything has passed01:06:29
through him this through is01:06:33
another point that we should a lot I have already01:06:36
a little ' developed but we must not01:06:39
forget it because when we encounter01:06:41
the evil of the world because there is little to01:06:43
say it exists we generally either flee or01:06:47
fight or other things if instead we01:06:50
opened up yes01:06:51
sorry to interrupt you because01:06:54
really But I'm sick it's really01:06:56
overwhelming us with what's going on01:06:58
So it's also interesting if there will be01:07:00
a minute to see how the prologue can01:07:03
shed light on this that you're already01:07:05
doing already I'll tell you right away I'll tell you in01:07:08
one word if the father allows it it01:07:12
means that it makes sense in the01:07:14
evolutionary design let's talk about01:07:16
war well no one I think01:07:20
likes it No Okay then allow me to01:07:23
quote D the Steiner because it's not01:07:25
my work so it's useless for me to make myself look good01:07:27
and good the Steiner01:07:29
says there is There are many types of medicine01:07:33
there it is a medicine the bitterest of01:07:37
social medicines social medicines it is01:07:41
war it is a social medicine so What01:07:45
social disease is there in our01:07:47
society there is a disease that has reached01:07:50
a point Such hatred that requires a01:07:54
terrible medicine that is war01:07:57
therefore the father who presides over01:08:00
everything at a certain point allows01:08:04
this to happen because we arrive at a01:08:06
condition that only through01:08:09
war Can certain things be calmly evened out01:08:13
because the First01:08:15
World War was already the social medicine for01:08:18
all the hundreds of years of01:08:21
very ferocious European wars there01:08:25
was no01:08:54
fine awareness there are no other01:08:56
words So when I01:08:59
fight war with war I am not01:09:00
in love I am in the logic of the01:09:03
division of oppression therefore I01:09:05
book the next war I book it01:09:09
therefore the moment will come that the man01:09:11
will enlighten himself and on December 18th the sun01:09:14
made a big splash, let's see if it01:09:17
illuminates us but let's get back to us yes thanks01:09:21
so there is always a reason Let us01:09:24
always remember the father presides over everything and01:09:27
since a God of Love allows01:09:30
these things if it allows that they01:09:33
lock us in the house for 2 years and I don't say01:09:35
that word because otherwise they have01:09:37
already closed me. They banned me there two or three01:09:39
webinars so I won't repeat again if he01:09:42
allowed this and if he allows many01:09:45
other things well It means that in a01:09:48
logic that we don't understand we don't01:09:50
understand has a reason It goes without saying01:09:54
why God allows01:09:56
and Ask yourself what you do in the sense01:09:59
of love01:10:00
when we talk here In a little while01:10:03
the topic of migrants will also come up01:10:05
here oh so much Yes it will come up Now01:10:09
maybe I will underline it since we have01:10:11
arrived here but let's move on because01:10:13
time We have understood that tonight we will not01:10:16
end S Yes then we have seen the01:10:18
second point all of evolution the01:10:21
second concept therefore the logos is light01:10:24
eternal life all of evolution all of01:10:27
creation very well and we have01:10:31
now entered the third the third concept which is01:10:35
the Baptist as a witness to the01:10:38
light there was still one last verse which01:10:41
I have not read I apologize on the 5th and the light01:10:45
manifests itself in the darkness and the darkness did01:10:49
not01:10:51
completely take it this is interesting ante01:10:54
because it introduces the concept of what01:10:56
we call evil therefore light and01:10:59
darkness in the previous verse I01:11:02
stopped at the Ancient moon if you01:11:04
remember the light of the astral but01:11:06
in the ancient moon and we had that01:11:09
certain entities carrying the light that01:11:12
they call Lucifer he refused to01:11:14
bring the true light and therefore evil was born01:11:17
evil is born from a refusal every01:11:20
time I refuse something I also01:11:23
refuse the war if I refuse the01:11:25
war I turn against the refusal I01:11:28
create another war I have to01:11:31
embrace it embrace it do you remember01:11:34
Gian Palach Gian Palach but he01:11:37
remembers him brato Yes he burned himself he was01:11:40
ground alive facts of Hungary and that01:11:44
remained in history he put himself there Shut up01:11:46
Shut up and he burned himself what did he do he01:11:49
made Christic sacrifice life is01:11:52
sacred Yes it's fine but also the life01:11:54
of Jesus was sacred and so was the date So01:11:57
you always have to understand what you put on01:11:59
Libra's plates Ian Palac gave01:12:02
a boost to the conscience of humanity01:12:04
and the Vietnamese Bonzes who01:12:07
also burned themselves alive for the war in01:12:10
We remember Vietnam. They stood there with their01:12:13
legs crossed, they set themselves on fire and01:12:16
were incinerated, sitting in the01:12:18
Lotus position. He toured the world.01:12:21
This is more than cannons and more than01:12:23
bombings, it is more than napal. So01:12:26
we need to look at things in another01:12:28
way. and we already have the Gandhi if we want01:12:31
No let's say all this lbe that our01:12:33
powerful people set an example but first01:12:35
Enzo No of course If someone who has it in Rome for01:12:40
example could go over there01:12:41
and get with the Mobil jelly in Gaza and01:12:45
do something that goes from there This01:12:49
would be the testimony very well01:12:51
Then we have the principle of01:12:52
darkness it is interesting the darkness did not take it01:12:57
completely contemplate Sorry in Greek01:13:00
This is an untranslatable verb Cata01:13:03
lambano is called So lambano is01:13:05
to take Cata is down to take down Yes not not01:13:09
not it's like this though because this Cat01:13:12
lambano is a verb that tells you that01:13:15
darkness has enveloped the light imagine01:13:19
a python No an Anaconda that envelops its01:13:23
prey and then wants to crush it and01:13:26
this is aimane And then it gives it a01:13:29
blast of pestilential breath and this01:13:32
it is Lucifer to poison her let's01:13:35
just say with this with this poison and01:13:38
this is Lucifer Exactly however they have not01:13:41
won So we are in a condition01:13:44
in which the darkness has this power to01:13:47
suffocate crush and poison the01:13:50
light of truth this And in fact01:13:54
Christ arrives insma because01:13:56
Christ arrived Because God sent his01:13:58
son because he sent to save01:14:00
humanity because humanity couldn't01:14:03
do it alone so we arrived01:14:04
at the last minute let's say so where the01:14:08
darkness was about to overwhelm the light and01:14:12
therefore verse 6 became a man in01:14:16
life sent by God whose01:14:19
internal name was John This is the third01:14:22
concept the Baptist01:14:24
as a witness to the light therefore01:14:26
the forerunner arrives a man arrives and here we must01:14:30
immediately say one thing the word man01:14:33
in Greek translates into two ways anthropos01:14:36
and anir aner anir as you want therefore01:14:40
anthropos is the biological man who looks01:14:44
vori dire The soul man who looks01:14:46
towards the spirit who rings the spirit01:14:49
for which01:14:50
anthroposophy while anir is the01:14:53
enlightened man the initiate therefore John the01:14:56
Baptist is a anthropos because he was a01:14:59
man he was already reincarnated he was Elijah01:15:02
previously therefore a man in01:15:05
life however he was not a man only so01:15:08
let's say biological he was connected to01:15:10
cosmic life and was sent by God Not01:15:14
by God by God therefore by the Holy01:15:17
Trinity and his internal name it was01:15:20
Giovanni and here we need to make a01:15:22
clarification01:15:24
Giovanni is a title it is not a name it is an01:15:28
initiatory title and when a man01:15:31
reaches the peak of initiation01:15:33
he takes the name Giovanni even the pope01:15:37
when I name him pope they give him another01:15:39
name no then let's leave it alone but John01:15:44
in in the Gospel we find three Johns01:15:48
we have John the Baptist John the01:15:50
Evangelist and John son of Zebedee01:15:54
called lightning bonares Yes then we01:15:57
have in John of Bonares called01:16:00
lightning lightning What is it It is a tear in the01:16:03
sky and through this tear01:16:06
this light and we enter in for a01:16:09
moment in the astral world therefore Giovanni01:16:12
bonares is the maximum of initiation01:16:14
in clear01:16:17
clairvoyance Massimo Giovanni in Clair01:16:20
vcenza John the Baptist is the maximum in01:16:24
initiation into the law because the01:16:26
Baptist was the first who managed01:16:28
to fully respect the law and then01:16:30
we will have the evangelist who is the maximum of01:16:33
initiation in love and then the01:16:37
plus one is missing because we said that the01:16:39
logic of the spirit is 3 +1 the +101:16:42
we will find It. In a few lines therefore this01:16:45
man had an internal name which was01:16:48
Giovanni Joseph is also a name of01:16:50
initiation Joseph means the one who01:16:52
grows in God second degree of01:16:54
initiation Sena but Mary is also a01:16:57
name of initiation there are a lot of01:17:00
Marys in the Gospel Mary of Clefa01:17:03
Mary Joan and Solomonic Mary Mary01:17:06
Natan Mary La Maddalena Thank you so01:17:10
they are all titles and initiatory low01:17:14
highs what you want and these are01:17:18
also remember everything always when there is01:17:20
the G Jonah the sign of Jonah gona01:17:23
inction of the whale but we stop01:17:26
so John the Baptist is sent by01:17:30
God he is a man he is connected to01:17:33
eternal cosmic life and he had the title of01:17:37
John because because he had reached the01:17:39
maximum level of initiation into the01:17:42
law this is what the Baptist01:17:46
and the evangelist are telling us sorry about the Baptist01:17:51
well then now then there would be01:17:55
time but I'm afraid I have to cut it01:17:58
would be to give us a some time for01:18:01
the messages Enzo If yes Okay then I01:18:04
'll read you in esoteric Greek What does01:18:07
Giovanni mean I told you that they are acronyms01:18:09
no then Giovanni in Greek is called01:18:11
ioannis it's not said Giovanni no ioannis01:18:15
with 2 n so it opens so this01:18:19
word01:18:20
is the connection between above and below therefore01:18:23
between spirit and matter or or it is a01:18:27
spiral a spiral that carries everything01:18:30
within itself How to do with arms or01:18:33
a hug no So a connection01:18:36
this man St01:18:38
connection above the01:18:41
below wait eso we don't hear you C01:18:44
state of the01:18:47
Jumps the I01:18:49
and we still don't hear you So let's see01:18:53
what happened something here I know now01:18:56
now we hear yes I here everything is01:18:59
normal for me Boo Yes now Okay well01:19:01
So the connection between the spirit and01:19:04
the matter or or between the matter and the01:19:07
spirit or the spiral that brings everything01:19:10
inside therefore this connection I01:19:12
carry it all inside me01:19:14
like something new that begins01:19:18
Thanks to this connection that I01:19:20
carry inside me something new begins01:19:23
what the n the n we had already seen in01:19:26
Narchi the connection with the mind of01:19:29
God a new light that expands01:19:33
Sofia expresses itself however I have the n repeated01:19:37
So I open a second veil the second01:19:40
level of this spiritual path01:19:42
for that is the maximum of initiation01:19:44
and then I have the I having done a second01:19:48
level of spiritual initiation I01:19:50
now have a new connection with the01:19:52
world of the spirit no longer the same as01:19:55
before I could say that now I enter the01:19:57
Holy Trinity and then I have the final S01:20:00
and I carry everything within me I make it01:20:04
fruitful right down to the flesh transformation01:20:08
of the01:20:10
flesh well and so with this John01:20:14
we leave it alone then we come to01:20:17
verse 7 Verse 7 are still in the01:20:19
Baptist and it says this one came as a01:20:22
witness01:20:23
so that all would testify to01:20:26
testify so that he would testify01:20:28
around the light so that all01:20:31
would believe through him then01:20:35
John the Baptist testifies Whoever has01:20:37
read the Gospel there are three01:20:39
testimonies already the baptism of the01:20:41
Jordan he will say I testify that01:20:44
the spirit has descended in the form of a Dove01:20:46
etc. etc. then he will testify to those01:20:49
present and then he will testify to his01:20:51
disciples but what is interesting he01:20:54
says so that everyone believed01:20:57
through him therefore everyone It is not01:21:01
only the Jews of that time or the01:21:03
Christians of today everyone even one who is01:21:06
an atheist can have the illumination of01:21:09
this light of life and it also happens and they01:21:12
believe believed Here there is a01:21:15
point to be made fundamental because in the three01:21:18
Gospels they talk about Faith John does not01:21:21
talk about Faith John talks about believing01:21:24
and then Faith means I have faith in01:21:26
God if I have faith in God it means that I01:21:28
am here God is there I look at him and I have faith01:21:32
and he he responds to my faith he01:21:35
responds with Mercy This is01:21:38
Mercy But if I believe if I believe I01:21:41
am within the divine I am united with the01:21:43
Divine I am in the same substance my01:21:46
self is in his self And then he no longer gives me01:21:49
Mercy but from that famous one01:21:52
you will all be instructed directly by01:21:54
God the Christ will be born in me the famous01:21:58
Not me but the Christ in me by Saint Paul01:22:00
this is achieved by believing and believing is01:22:04
John the Gospel of John which01:22:07
speaks of believing While the other three01:22:09
speak of Faith which for goodness sake is01:22:12
fine But it is preparatory to believing01:22:17
well so let's move on and we are01:22:20
still in the Baptist verse that01:22:23
was not the light but he came until01:22:26
he testified about the light and here it is01:22:29
clearly said that John the Baptist01:22:31
was not the light we are waiting for but01:22:34
he came to testify around the light01:22:37
which light verse new verse 901:22:42
we have the fourth concept comes the01:22:45
Christ the Christ as the true light verse01:22:48
9 and became the true light that illuminates01:22:51
every man man that comes into the01:22:54
natural world therefore it always became that01:22:57
verb and geneto gign never the one that01:22:59
it never ends to understand us therefore it became01:23:02
this light that will never end the01:23:05
true light that illuminates every anthropos man01:23:08
man who seeks soul man who seeks the01:23:11
light that comes from the natural world all of01:23:15
us who are here therefore for all of us01:23:17
who are here it gives that light that01:23:20
never ends the true light01:23:23
this this became also gives a sense01:23:25
of continuous movement of evolution in01:23:27
some way exactly exactly what you said01:23:29
Exactly this became is the famous if the01:23:32
father presides over everything the son01:23:35
Transforms everything therefore he became and makes it01:23:38
become when a what passes through it01:23:40
becomes becomes something else Steiner01:23:44
when he went into the rooms to give01:23:46
conferences these are anecdotes Eh he01:23:49
entered the room before everyone else he01:23:51
stood in the center of the room he smelled I01:23:53
say if there was a disturbing entity01:23:57
he opened the doors arms and he made them pass01:23:59
through himself and then he gave the01:24:03
conferences he didn't do exorcisms he didn't01:24:05
give blessings he gave himself to him01:24:08
based on the strength he had and according to the01:24:11
father's will that all this that01:24:13
we call evil but which are entities01:24:16
that instead need to be helped in their01:24:18
evolution through the Christic force01:24:21
that he brought and made evolve this01:24:24
is transforming this is transforming it's01:24:27
also nice that you tell us a little about these01:24:29
things that are so real no that help us understand01:24:31
the greatness of this of this01:24:34
man Oh yes we can really say it well01:24:38
Then it's good for everyone Christ01:24:41
came for everyone therefore No one has a01:24:43
monopoly on Christ even those who have01:24:45
never heard of the name Christ is there01:24:48
for01:24:51
them too Oh well once I was talking to a01:24:55
Muslim and he said that we we have01:24:57
the god the Triune god We are01:25:00
polytheists we have the trinity it is a01:25:03
single God and then I said to him But01:25:06
your God all presides over everything Of course he01:25:09
makes me and then I said G but all is01:25:12
merciful who transforms all01:25:14
evil into good Sure and all is present in01:25:17
everything Yes and I call him Father Son01:25:20
and Holy Spirit Ah ohco Tell the truth01:25:24
go to finish After an hour like this we01:25:28
hugged We01:25:30
really hugged then I who don't drink I don't smoke01:25:33
etc. etc. I'm in a Ramadan01:25:35
continues so yes everything was fine let01:25:38
's say you crossed each other You01:25:41
crossed each other Yes but it was really01:25:45
very profound Here is a01:25:48
profound experience and because we talked about something else at01:25:51
a certain point the conversation was formal there I do01:25:54
n't like formal conversations I01:25:56
tell him why we don't talk about Faith except01:25:59
to a Muslim who talks about faith in01:26:02
his home and it's his home well done and we started01:26:05
talking about faith We got to01:26:07
this point and we hugged each other But01:26:09
we hugged each other and then we remained01:26:11
brothers for days okay so01:26:15
let's hug each other well Enough let's get to01:26:19
verse 10 the Christ was the true light01:26:22
in the world he was and the natural world01:26:25
through him became alive see that01:26:28
the through returns so he is in the01:26:30
world and the natural world nature01:26:33
what surrounds us therefore the01:26:35
luciferic Maia and Ahrimanic through him01:26:39
became01:26:41
alive through everything that01:26:44
passes through Christ becomes01:26:46
alive the flesh of Jesus passed01:26:50
through Christ becomes alive and01:26:52
becomes the body of Resurrection the01:26:55
phantom And He gave this in millions01:26:57
and billions of copies for all of us when01:27:01
we are ready for it And I want01:27:03
to get there but otherwise we don't01:27:05
understand how it will end so here01:27:07
I accelerate and the natural world has not01:27:10
known it well we men have01:27:13
put it to the cross and this was enough for us01:27:16
understood very well you hear me Yes yes yes01:27:20
very well because I'm a little01:27:22
yes yes yes okay then well01:27:25
well to the personal things he came So01:27:30
these personal things it's not01:27:32
clear what the personal things are that he01:27:35
came no So what are the01:27:39
personal things of Christ is the whole Cosmos01:27:43
the whole Cosmos then he came in the01:27:47
Holy Trinity therefore in our system01:27:49
But then he came he brought this01:27:53
impulse he continues to bring this01:27:55
impulse everywhere and then he says the01:27:57
verse and his people did not welcome him So01:28:01
his people are the chosen people what is it the01:28:04
chosen people here is a long discussion01:28:07
that we will do it in a few words when there01:28:09
was the Ancient sun that everything began01:28:11
to shine there also began a bit01:28:14
of movement of these beings who were01:28:16
there we were and therefore c 'it is those who01:28:20
moved to always remain in a condition of01:28:23
light who received those who instead moved01:28:27
to always remain in the shadows And those who01:28:29
remained still So when there was01:28:31
light from the Cherubs he received it when it was01:28:34
n't there He didn't receive it here Who has01:28:37
remained still They are the famous lukewarm01:28:39
ones who in the apocalypse it is written01:28:41
that they are vomited out the chosen people01:28:44
are those who have always sought the01:28:46
light others have always sought01:28:49
the darkness and in the middle there have been those01:28:51
who have done nothing those that if01:28:54
nothing is done If someone says I don't steal I don't01:28:55
kill I'll go to heaven don't steal don't01:28:58
kill and stay out because we are01:29:01
outside they put us out we01:29:03
forget this okay so humanity and01:29:07
humanity is a bit back let's say I01:29:09
didn't welcome him But those who welcomed him01:29:12
So those who opened01:29:16
the message of Christ gave them the01:29:18
power to become children of gods01:29:23
to those who believe in his name here01:29:26
I stop therefore to those who they01:29:28
welcomed If a man opens the message01:29:30
of Christ he receives the power power01:29:34
power to become children of God then01:29:38
children there are two words to say children01:29:40
in Greek Tecna And iOS from Tecna is born01:29:44
technique and iOS noni we lost it Tecna01:29:47
would be the son biological the one who01:29:51
is born in the registry instead the hos is the01:29:54
spiritual son Tecna says here because01:29:57
we cannot be spiritual children01:29:59
because we were thrown out of01:30:01
paradise when we were spiritual children01:30:04
and we were immortal now we are innate01:30:08
mortals and therefore we will return Tecna of God01:30:11
therefore01:30:14
adopted children our goal now is to01:30:17
become adopted children and no longer by01:30:19
right because out of love he will adopt us01:30:22
again but we no longer have the right01:30:25
because we went out accompanied to the01:30:28
door of the Cor Rubino of the01:30:31
rotating and flaming sword from the east door01:30:34
of Paradise the door est so that he doesn't01:30:37
know it is Michael therefore Michael will be01:30:40
the one who carries it Michael the face of01:30:44
Christ So everything Pap pivots on Christ01:30:48
and on his prince instrument which is01:30:51
Michael01:30:52
well So those who believe in him01:30:55
who So these who return home01:30:58
do not give bloods plural neither from the will of the01:31:02
flesh nor from the will of an enlightened man but01:31:05
from God they were born in the spiritual life01:31:08
So here are the men who01:31:10
were not born from the blood hereditary line01:31:13
biological line for the Jews it was born01:31:15
from the blood there is all the story behind but01:31:18
let's say Here it is not the biological hereditary line01:31:21
that brings me the Christ nor the01:31:23
will of the flesh What is the will01:31:25
of the flesh will of the flesh a01:31:28
cell makes another cell therefore01:31:30
biological reproduction01:31:32
eh biological linked to the hero of the01:31:36
will of the enlightened man therefore and01:31:38
not even the nir the enlightened man the nir01:31:41
can ascend to God but from God they were born01:31:45
therefore we from our task arrive at01:31:48
that level of opening up to the Christ impulse01:31:52
buset will be opened to you and from God we are born01:31:57
therefore the birth from above what is01:32:00
also written in the Gospels no longer from01:32:02
below but we will be born01:32:05
spiritual life from above and this is also an01:32:09
important concept to understand what is01:32:11
written in the Gospel Oh that of01:32:13
Nicodemus No that of Nicodemus perhaps01:32:16
Nicodemus Yes you who are Master in01:32:18
Israel you don't know these01:32:20
things he says I have to go back to my mother's womb01:32:23
blah blah blah blah blah he says You01:32:26
who are Master of Israel who would be01:32:28
the chosen people you don't know these things what01:32:30
is of the flesh is of the flesh what01:32:32
is of God it is from God therefore birth01:32:34
from above there will come a moment when01:32:36
the infinite love of God will open its01:32:39
arms and take us into itself as01:32:42
adopted children birth from above eternal life01:32:45
we return not to the earthly paradise but01:32:49
to the Celestial Jerusalem we came out01:32:51
of a01:32:53
paradisiacal condition of nature we use this term01:32:56
even if everything was different we will enter01:32:59
a city here city means01:33:02
sociability it means sociability or01:33:05
we learn to be social or01:33:07
we stay outside well now on the will01:33:11
of flesh I have to take a minute01:33:14
because on the word meat the word01:33:17
meat it's I don't know how to say it's another of01:33:20
those words that are01:33:22
the infinite So in Greek we say sarx01:33:25
from which sarcoma no sarx means No01:33:31
ehm we already find the word Sars in the01:33:34
Bible because when God put Adam into01:33:38
that hypnotic sleep and he took01:33:41
Eve from the rib and put meat in place of the rib01:33:46
and said oh well he did01:33:51
plastic surgery on him point to head and Adam01:33:56
spoke01:33:58
immediately I have it here in front of01:34:00
him he took one of his ribs and closed the01:34:03
flesh in its place God the lord01:34:06
with the rib that he had taken from the man01:34:08
he formed into a woman and he brought her to the man and01:34:12
the man said this Finally she is bone01:34:15
of my bones and flesh of my flesh and01:34:17
she will be called man because she was01:34:20
taken from the man01:34:22
Therefore the man begins to speak this01:34:24
meat is the principle of the word you understand01:34:27
that it is not flab this meat is a01:34:30
word that has an infinite meaning he01:34:34
placed the principle of the Ego therefore in the01:34:37
red meat sprinkled with blood because01:34:39
Sars would like to say this in the one01:34:42
sprinkled with blood we have the principle of01:34:44
the Ego therefore without Eve let's say this is how01:34:49
the principle of the Ego began therefore the01:34:52
masculine principle01:34:54
well then I'll tell you again what01:34:57
Sars means I found it in the dictionary it01:35:00
means flesh it also means man it01:35:02
also means human nature it means01:35:05
corrupt nature also means01:35:07
mortal life Ah let's go down But01:35:11
Sars always also means king queen01:35:14
strength01:35:16
sovereign leader So Sars you understand it's all01:35:19
because I with my I can be01:35:21
the sovereign or I can be the01:35:25
corrupt man It depends where I put my forces01:35:28
and I tell you now in esoteric Greek01:35:31
Sars would be S within us in the01:35:35
cave we enter01:35:39
the primordial beginning begins01:35:41
for the father the highest aspect So it01:35:45
begins in us X the coffin the coffin what is01:35:50
below here therefore the flesh is the01:35:52
instrument for the manifestation of the01:35:55
Divine principle in the01:35:58
lower earth it is a completely different world therefore the01:36:02
verb became flesh therefore01:36:05
he wanted to enter into its incommensurability01:36:09
to the point of embracing all the aspects of01:36:12
this flesh up to the lowest and01:36:15
so here there is a whole01:36:17
Jewish element which is connected which would be Bazar01:36:20
meat is called Bazar Which means01:36:22
primordial earth but Bazar inflected01:36:26
becomes01:36:28
basor Which means the Gospel01:36:32
basora means the gospel the good01:36:34
news therefore in the flesh basar Hebrew01:36:38
there is it is inside what the future of the01:36:40
flesh to become the good news01:36:42
therefore the01:36:44
resurrection you understand that it is therefore the01:36:47
spirit that became flesh and the flesh that01:36:49
then becomes spirit again as what is01:36:51
said Yes exactly but it is written in the01:36:54
prologue in the prologue these things are01:36:56
written very well let's go to verse 1401:37:00
We are going quite fast and therefore01:37:03
aside from verse 14 there is an01:37:06
interesting thing and the logos living flesh01:37:11
became therefore not as01:37:14
normally written that01:37:16
eh as that as again it is written it01:37:20
became flesh Here instead it is he became living flesh01:37:24
if I say he became flesh and I01:37:27
am here with mine I entered into a01:37:29
body of flesh Instead he became living flesh it01:37:32
means that he wanted it he01:37:36
wanted it to become it is very different it is01:37:39
active it is not passive and even Golgotha01:37:42
is active he let himself be taken at Golgotha01:37:45
C it is very clear if you read So the01:37:48
sacrifice is very clear therefore01:37:50
living flesh became because it was his plan01:37:53
and he lived in us and I contemplated the glory01:37:57
of him Glory As of the only begotten from a father01:38:00
in plenitude of Grace and truth and here01:38:04
we begin to say to fly01:38:08
Then the logos living flesh became01:38:11
none other than the seventh day of01:38:13
Genesis because on the seventh day it is01:38:16
written that God stopped with the sixth01:38:18
day he made man with the Seventh he01:38:20
stopped in the 'man because he gave01:38:23
man the time the possibility to01:38:27
continue in the freedom to return01:38:29
home therefore Here we now have the01:38:32
new man the logos living flesh became01:38:34
because he arrived in a body of flesh01:38:36
therefore the seventh day begins then01:38:39
he01:38:40
will transfer this strength of the seventh01:38:43
day of the new man in Jesus and Jesus01:38:46
will transfer him into the risen one and the risen one01:38:50
continues to be he is present with all of01:38:52
us and helps us and here there is another word01:38:58
not recently there is the word contemplate and01:39:02
they contemplate the glory of him contemplating01:39:05
means in the same temple and at the01:39:09
same time therefore there is here now01:39:13
contemplating is an action that takes place in the01:39:16
here and now and is almost superior to01:39:19
meditating because in the here now it means01:39:21
that we meet Christ therefore in01:39:24
this condition of contemplating the him01:39:28
the logos Christ has brought us what01:39:31
the spiritual sight and this will be In01:39:34
John chapter 9 When it is written01:39:37
sight to the man born blind this is a01:39:39
fundamental passage because That man01:39:42
that man born blind is the first man who says01:39:45
I in all the gospels the first man who01:39:49
says I therefore Christ gives man the01:39:52
possibility to take back the step of01:39:55
I chapter 10 the passion begins he has01:39:59
completed the healing of man then01:40:01
there is the passion and everything that goes with it01:40:03
behind it there is the resuscitation of Lazarus01:40:06
to be precise and then the01:40:08
passion begins therefore this contemplating the01:40:11
Glory and on the word Glory I'm01:40:13
looking at the phone of il trefon Sorry01:40:16
10 minutes at 8pm 10 minutes So01:40:19
let's do the glory Glory another01:40:21
fundamental word because Glory is01:40:24
another of those untranslatable words01:40:27
because it means the complete vision and and01:40:32
as Clear hearing and clairvoyance of the01:40:34
Divine but not in the sense of seeing because01:40:37
I am interested in seeing and hearing the complete01:40:39
Union because if I see it I hear it I go back to01:40:42
how I was in earthly paradise01:40:44
earthly paradise It is clearly written01:40:46
that Adam listened to God no. Therefore01:40:48
returning to glory means returning01:40:51
to the fullness of the relationship with God01:40:53
therefore logos carne viven became and lived01:40:57
in us in us it means in our heart01:41:00
but no we must give him that space and01:41:03
let's contemplate the glory of him Gloria01:41:05
As of the only begotten of a father in01:41:08
fullness of Grace and truth therefore01:41:11
I have said little about Gloria and I'm sorry01:41:14
because there could be more but there01:41:17
are other things that otherwise I will never tell you01:41:19
So as of a friend01:41:21
here the word only begotten01:41:23
only begotten means two things born01:41:26
of the one and only begotten therefore he is01:41:30
the only begotten like Christ as son01:41:33
and we will become born of one from the01:41:37
father as will be verse 18 when he01:41:40
takes us to see God only begotten son01:41:43
therefore he the only begotten I would like to say with01:41:45
a capital u takes us on a01:41:48
journey to become us unigen with the01:41:51
small u and return to the father we return01:41:54
home in fullness of Grace and truth01:41:58
So three words to develop01:42:01
plenitude plenitude comes from the Greek01:42:04
pleroma01:42:05
pleroma means say union of many entities01:42:09
So in esotericism there are01:42:12
angels The Archangels and all those01:42:14
you want with their names there is Raphael there is01:42:18
Michael there is Uriel everyone has their01:42:20
name and those are male01:42:24
Greek mythology helps us a lot all01:42:26
male divinities represent an01:42:28
angel or an archangel Greek esotericism did01:42:32
not go beyond the Archangels Well now01:42:34
the great light was being lost but01:42:37
let's say Angels and Archangels well when01:42:40
more Angels and Archangels collaborate for01:42:43
a higher common project This01:42:46
takes a feminine name and it is called01:42:49
pleroma and it becomes Mary the mother01:42:52
nature Demeter is female and in the female01:42:56
there is for example the wind which is01:42:57
Aeolus which is a male name there are01:43:00
all male entities But for a01:43:03
mission for a superior task01:43:06
the feminine is needed so Giovanni is01:43:08
talking about the mother the plenitude with01:43:12
the plenitude we get to01:43:15
meet the mother the mother there are01:43:18
at least 10 levels of the mother that we01:43:21
should learn to know and this is01:43:23
another topic that I don't mind eh I01:43:26
simply say that I can't do it it01:43:28
begins with the Magdalene, however, the01:43:30
Magdalene is at the first level and will be the one01:43:32
who will recognize the risen one until01:43:35
reaching the mother who follows01:43:38
the incarnation of all the planets of the01:43:42
evolutionary phases of the anti-Saturn world, a01:43:45
sun between one and the other there is half01:43:47
the mother Therefore there are01:43:50
infinitely cosmic mothers and01:43:53
smaller mothers without problems. Keeping in01:43:55
mind that the mother has two01:43:57
main tasks this womb this01:43:59
universal womb nourishes and01:44:03
educates exactly. Let us not forget that there is also the01:44:06
mother who therefore educates because the mother01:44:09
gives you education no hopefully So01:44:12
there is the mother who nurtures who nourishes that01:44:15
therefore what we said the01:44:17
womb is exactly exactly but there is01:44:21
another aspect the mother who educates and we01:44:23
must keep in mind these various01:44:25
aspects of mother and I stop So at01:44:28
a certain point he says to get to the01:44:31
only begotten you take steps to the plenitude of01:44:34
Grace and truth then therefore the mother01:44:39
mother of Grace and truth Grace is those01:44:43
terrible words in Greek is teomi teomi01:44:49
is teao mai is a little difficult to say01:44:52
Tea what is it would be teos teos means01:44:55
God Tea means Goddess it is the feminine of01:44:58
God therefore in01:45:01
the in the in the contemplation01:45:05
We have this Divine01:45:07
feminine element So we have this Divine01:45:10
feminine that is formed in us therefore01:45:13
therefore the veneration the devotion01:45:16
we will say today and therefore the contemplation01:45:19
in front of the Esto of Christ just01:45:21
contemplate this grace that has arrived01:45:24
but Tea Oi o mai It's like saying a a01:45:30
noun becomes a verb the Greek is like01:45:32
this so it's like saying Oar and01:45:36
rowing you understand Oar Oar of the boat and01:45:39
rowing therefore theomi means that01:45:41
the soul because we are in the feminine01:45:44
deiz So when I am in the grace01:45:48
and state of Grace famous therefore01:45:50
veneration and elevation my soul01:45:54
yes Dezza rises to the Divine the fullness01:45:59
of the soul the Marian rises to the Divine01:46:02
at the Cross c 'it was the mother and Giovanni01:46:05
now let's look at the mother then01:46:07
Giovanni will also arrive therefore in the plenitude01:46:10
We have the fullness of my soul01:46:14
which becomes Divine we know that if01:46:17
my soul becomes Divine the science01:46:19
of the spirit tells us that the01:46:22
spiritual Self develops the I superior the I am and01:46:26
therefore the Christ is born in me in the soul01:46:28
which becomes Divine therefore in the01:46:30
plenitude of Grace the I am is born in01:46:34
me the Christ is born in me01:46:38
and it is not little eh And then he says it is truth01:46:43
truth I am cutting eh Truth is01:46:47
another of those endless words01:46:49
let's say01:46:52
why wait I was looking here for a bit There's01:46:55
thanks again truth comes and we translate it01:47:00
so let it also be truth In truth I say to you01:47:03
Amen amen I tell you this Amen this01:47:07
truth means so it is and always so01:47:10
it will be what is the thing that so it is and so it01:47:13
will always be the truth because the truth01:47:16
no one changes it no And therefore we have01:47:19
this element01:47:21
of Eternity that contemplating the glory01:47:25
glory therefore the fullness clairvoyance01:47:27
and Clear hearing of him We arrive01:47:30
this plenitude therefore veneration01:47:33
devotion l 'my soul is deiz01:47:37
my soul that is deiz therefore becomes the mother of01:47:40
what of the son in me and therefore01:47:43
we have the birth of the only begotten in us01:47:48
we return home01:47:51
therefore 2000 years that you said before01:47:53
In short they01:47:54
want us But no me You make headlights yours01:47:57
I'm here continuing to study it01:48:00
and it's like saying Whoever has time doesn't wait for01:48:03
time so everyone can do as they01:48:06
want it's written there if you want it's there so01:48:11
let's go back to our truth the truth01:48:15
This Amen and amen also means Aum and01:48:19
amen is the Latinization of Aum and Aum is01:48:23
the sacred trimurti01:48:25
hù therefore we always return to the Father and01:48:28
Son and the spirit therefore my soul01:48:30
deiz rises to the one parent in the01:48:36
Trinity this is the whole path that01:48:39
therefore Christ coming from the01:48:41
Most Holy Trinity descends into the logos01:48:44
descends into Jesus death and Resurrection01:48:48
opens the uphill road for us if our01:48:51
soul deizs to return to the01:48:54
Holy Trinity not in the holy one01:48:58
our destination is the01:49:00
most holy not the holy one in the01:49:04
Celestial Jerusalem we were in the holy one01:49:07
if we experienced death Overcome01:49:11
death embraced with Love death and01:49:14
therefore transformed into new life We01:49:17
ascend to where Christ Christ is in me01:49:20
therefore I am in the Most Holy Today01:49:23
we should have an awareness of the01:49:25
Most Holy which begins from the Milky Way01:49:27
therefore a project for the new year01:49:29
in short there is Do as you want the vialatte01:49:33
in Christian esotericism is called01:49:35
Divine Providence so we01:49:38
always talk about Providence eh Move for01:49:40
Divine Providence the road is01:49:42
written here it is written So I arrive at01:49:46
this element of01:49:49
fullness And up to what I arrive I arrive at01:49:52
this truth the truth in Greek is01:49:56
called aleteia I finish this let's take a01:49:58
break yes because we have 24 Seconds Alright01:50:02
aleteia which means truth01:50:04
also means in the privative the ia the ete the river01:50:08
the ete That of forgetting so01:50:10
I no longer forget and here there is the problem01:50:12
of memory which you also mentioned to me01:50:14
No the beginning was memory I01:50:18
no longer forget I remember that cos my01:50:21
Divine origin is about part01:50:25
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unen where all Who Trust01:51:05
in him01:51:09
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though In The01:51:24
Darkness youve got01:51:27
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a his Love will find01:51:33
you and01:51:35
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darkest01:51:47
to come01:51:52
Jesus for his01:51:57
love and know that01:52:00
Angels are you up01:52:06
above Come on01:52:11
Jesus from every01:52:15
Nation from every Land01:52:23
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and we return live with the01:52:43
transmission notes anthroposophy world01:52:45
another challenging evening of the01:52:48
prologue of this year with the prologue01:52:51
of the Gospel of St. John with a01:52:53
truly profound and01:52:56
challenging treatment, a particular one brought to us by01:52:58
our very welcome guest Enzo Nastati01:53:03
the theme is precisely the prologue of the Gospel01:53:05
of John maximum synthesis of the01:53:08
Christic redemptive initiation inzo you01:53:11
are always with us true Always dear01:53:14
always Here we are And aleteia then01:53:18
aleteia yes we are cutting a lot01:53:21
which is a crime Eh we are committing a01:53:23
crime In any case I have to stay within the01:53:25
times I'm just saying scatore very quickly01:53:28
who said Where can we find the01:53:29
material of all your works01:53:32
is arcadellavita Punit let's repeat For those who01:53:36
want to see the work the research of by01:53:40
enzon nastati Arc dell vita.it please01:53:43
Enzo good so Elia wanted to say without01:53:47
forgetting therefore the principle of01:53:50
remembrance and remembrance and we can also say it01:53:53
memory no and and I remind you of the word01:53:57
remembrance Sorry for the pun that when01:53:59
the body of Jesus was placed in the01:54:01
Sepulcher the word Sepulcher in Greek emn01:54:05
meon therefore it was placed in remembrance01:54:09
so first of all Jesus the body Jesus01:54:12
had to remember nemon all01:54:16
the Divine origin all the evolution For01:54:18
later as a turning point to arrive at the01:54:21
new evolutionary process therefore in the01:54:23
nemon to exit and enter the new01:54:26
life EC So Quo di of rud Steiner I01:54:30
was saying I in living principle01:54:32
memory is there01:54:35
In short then we had arrived at this01:54:37
Allia that we cannot finish it What does it01:54:40
mean and therefore without forgetting01:54:43
I remember I remember the Divine origin01:54:46
therefore my I must remember my01:54:48
spiritual essence not like this and therefore01:54:53
Christ brings us this fullness of01:54:56
Strength of memory which also concerns01:54:58
our entire evolution What is01:55:02
initiation through the ego This is the01:55:04
truth all Teia means truth the01:55:06
truth is initiation through the ego and01:55:09
remembering my Divine origin01:55:11
aleteia also means another thing01:55:14
also means to be totally united01:55:17
with God so eh Grace and truth are the01:55:21
two attributes that John gives to Christ01:55:23
so we should focus a bit on01:55:26
these because something will immediately arise about Grace and truth01:55:29
that we will understand and01:55:32
so we move forward because time01:55:34
rules and we arrive at verse 1501:55:38
Verse 15 there is something new So01:55:41
we have passed the 14th which was the seventh01:55:43
day of creation the new man01:55:45
The man who is connected to Christ and01:55:48
Christ to the father as the only begotten in01:55:51
fullness of Grace and truth and now On01:55:54
the 15th what is there John testifies01:55:57
around him and proclaims saying he has01:56:01
always been the one of whom I preferred the one01:56:04
after me coming before me he01:56:08
became alive because he was my01:56:11
beginning So here we have two little things01:56:14
that are not to be little John testifies01:56:18
testify is a Greek word01:56:21
For a change and translates into being in the01:56:25
three i.e. two argue the witness says01:56:29
no look I was there He's right you're right01:56:31
you and it makes peace therefore the witness is the01:56:33
one who brings the three being in the three and01:56:36
therefore it is the Christic element with respect to the01:56:39
two contenders therefore01:56:41
luciferic division the witness is the Three who01:56:44
brings01:56:46
the true harmony therefore John01:56:49
speaks around the logos n the action of01:56:52
Christ and says he has always been the one01:56:56
of whom he uttered the after of me coming01:56:59
before me became alive because01:57:03
it was my principle let's go forward01:57:06
one more verse and from its01:57:08
fullness We all received Grace01:57:11
for grace here the problem is that if01:57:14
we want to be unscrupulous we don't01:57:17
understand that it is this young man because in01:57:20
the whole Gospel by Giovanni Giovanni01:57:22
never says I'm talking about me when01:57:25
for example The Last Supper says that this01:57:27
was the one that Christ placed the one who01:57:31
placed his head on the lord's chest01:57:33
could say I no Instead he never speaks01:57:36
like that because here there is another mystery01:57:38
of the mystery which would be the union of the two01:57:41
Johns This is a topic as if to say01:57:45
let's just see the title this The01:57:47
wonderful work of01:57:50
where we talk about the of this mystery of01:57:52
two Johns yes and that they arrive at this01:57:56
also at Golgotha would be to be ask01:57:59
who was the John who was under the01:58:01
cross and who was the mother who was under01:58:04
the cross and who is created as a synthesis01:58:07
of the whole being John and I told you01:58:09
that there were three and of the whole being Mary01:58:12
therefore the the maximum the top let's say about01:58:14
this they unite in giving birth to01:58:18
the Christian community based on love01:58:21
this at the Cross of Golgotha therefore01:58:24
John this being John01:58:26
testifies All right and all right we can01:58:30
move forward because time is short01:58:32
but what does he say and from his plenitude01:58:35
of all I receive Grace for grace therefore01:58:38
from the Marian plenitude the01:58:41
Marian aspect is the one that allows us to01:58:43
receive Grace for Grace Grace the01:58:47
Greek is Caris from which it derives A charity01:58:49
which would be the fourth level of love01:58:52
There is Eros the sensual love C fileo01:58:56
filial love C agapeo spiritual love and01:59:00
then there is Caris spiritual love Grace01:59:03
So if I operate spiritual love Grace01:59:06
I receive spiritual love if I01:59:09
operate one from above I receive 10 but if I01:59:12
don't operate even one and I don't thank01:59:15
it ends the state of Grace and I no01:59:19
longer did anything therefore the relationship with the01:59:23
spiritual world is all in these two words01:59:25
Grace for grace if I work Grace01:59:28
Therefore if I am an instrument of01:59:31
spiritual love I will receive as it is written in the01:59:35
Gospel occupied with things of the spirit01:59:38
all the the rest will be given to you in addition01:59:40
and therefore the surplus on the things of the01:59:42
world because we worry about the things of the01:59:45
world let us worry about the things of the01:59:47
spirit and it has been promised to us that the01:59:49
rest will be given to us the surplus therefore01:59:52
things of the spirit act out of love and01:59:55
therefore also wars end Grace01:59:57
by grace but we are in plenitude02:00:00
and here there is the Marian element the02:00:02
Marian element is what allows us to see02:00:05
this and the whole prologue if we02:00:08
followed it a little I couldn't02:00:10
underline it so much because the time there is02:00:12
tyrant but there are these quantan02:00:15
these expansions and contractions from the02:00:18
great from the Cosmos to man to the verb becomes02:00:21
flesh therefore from the highest to the lowest the02:00:24
most holy that enters the holy we have02:00:26
these contractions continuous expansions02:00:30
But the contraction the expansion When02:00:33
I read it is an experience that my02:00:37
soul has I don't do it consciously at the beginning02:00:39
but my soul does it and02:00:42
therefore it has an experience of contraction and02:00:45
expansion Which is a kind of massage02:00:48
of the soul But as it was in the ancient02:00:50
Greek initiation and with the tragedy02:00:53
Greek the spectator participated in02:00:57
these scenes tragedies dramas or other or02:01:00
comedies and therefore the soul moved it02:01:05
was no longer that hardness of your heart02:01:07
that was given to you by the law but this02:01:09
moved the soul therefore the opening02:01:12
of the soul which would be02:01:15
Mercy is more than we open02:01:17
our soul what life02:01:20
brings us we all receive Grace for02:01:24
grace so don't reject life Don't02:01:27
reject trials Because they come as02:01:29
the styner says from a direction of the02:01:31
world full of wisdom and love I I02:01:35
don't get the wisdom in war I don't02:01:38
get the love in war I don't02:01:40
get it But there is someone who knows and therefore I do02:01:43
n't start judging God Because02:01:45
when we say how God allows02:01:47
these things we Samo We are judging02:01:50
God it seems a little ' irreverent So02:01:53
we have this is important the02:01:55
fullness of the mother and from her02:01:59
fullness in all I receive Grace for02:02:02
grace century It therefore says through the02:02:05
strength of the mother when you tell me Hail02:02:08
Mary full of grace it is not the02:02:10
exact translation the exact translation02:02:12
is not full of grace because if I say02:02:15
full of grace she then gives us graces02:02:17
and remains without Grace the02:02:20
exact translation is full of grace which02:02:24
means that graces arrive through her02:02:27
and02:02:31
the ability to give is continually filled, as it were, Thank you It's like02:02:34
Pentecost Pentecost the spirit02:02:36
descended through the mother and then went02:02:39
to the apostles. If the mother wasn't there,02:02:42
Pentecost wasn't there. Let's be careful02:02:45
about these things because02:02:46
we don't know the role of the mother, we02:02:49
put it a bit in the background. storage room02:02:52
of our conscience while it is02:02:55
central here let's move on then it says because02:02:58
the law through Moses was given02:03:01
grace and living truth through the02:03:04
living Jesus Christ therefore the law02:03:07
came through Moses grace and02:03:10
living truth through Jesus Christ02:03:13
therefore became Moses us gave the02:03:17
dead law Christ instead brought us02:03:20
living grace and truth and through02:03:23
living grace and truth we02:03:26
will be saved for the Jews it was the law that02:03:29
saved them for the Jews the observance02:03:32
of the law had about 600 precepts02:03:35
in addition to the commandments the strict observance02:03:38
of the law they said saved them02:03:41
Instead it is clearly stated here that02:03:44
grace and truth therefore work for02:03:46
love and work for the good of things02:03:50
seek the truth that will make us free02:03:52
because Grace means love truth02:03:54
means freedom we are here to02:03:57
gain freedom in love therefore02:04:00
Freedom means truth and Grace02:04:03
means love And this is the Christ therefore02:04:07
through Jesus Christ they have become02:04:10
and now finally we arrive at the last02:04:13
verse so after we have the possibility02:04:15
to comment on something else yes then no one02:04:19
Has always seen never so verse 1802:04:23
being John says no one has ever02:04:26
seen God it's all a passage where Moses02:04:29
asks after the 10 commandments to see02:04:32
the glory of God so see him and God02:04:35
tells him You can't look at my02:04:36
Glory because you would die but my02:04:39
Glory will pass over you You will put your02:04:42
head your face In a crack in the02:04:44
ground in the rock then the earth the02:04:47
glory will pass then complete02:04:49
clairvoyance and Clear hearing when it02:04:51
has passed You will raise your head and then02:04:54
you will see it from behind we use this term02:04:56
here so no man02:04:59
not even Moses could see the glory of God and he says02:05:03
only begotten God returns to the only begotten02:05:06
who is in the father's womb that led us02:05:10
to02:05:11
understand it. So this is verse02:05:13
18 which corresponds to the passion and02:05:17
resurrection which is in synthesis of all02:05:19
the Gospel therefore God no one02:05:22
has always seen never02:05:24
okay past no one has ever seen02:05:27
passed only begotten God So if02:05:31
the only begotten is born in us and now here I want to02:05:33
expand who is in the father's womb02:05:36
and comes to understand why he is in the womb of the02:05:39
father that led us to02:05:41
understand it and the stael in this02:05:44
verse translates it in a02:05:45
slightly different way he says hello he02:05:49
led to the path to bring his02:05:53
knowledge so he made us a guide02:05:55
in this look alexand translates it02:05:58
freely and says that the only begotten God02:06:02
who in the womb of the father acted as a02:06:05
guide in this looking. Therefore if in02:06:09
my02:06:11
womb the only begotten of God is born who02:06:15
at the same time is also in the womb of the02:06:18
father02:06:19
therefore my divine is also in the Divine02:06:22
outside the Christ in me is also the Christ02:06:25
outside the Christ takes me to the father therefore02:06:27
I am to the father outside therefore the only begotten02:06:30
God is in my womb and who is also in the02:06:33
father's womb He will give me the he will02:06:37
teach me he will give me the teachings to02:06:39
arrive at his vision therefore he will be02:06:42
my teacher no one let02:06:45
only one master be called the master the Christ. That's what02:06:48
the Gospel says, no. So Christ02:06:51
is born in us and acts as our teacher, instructed02:06:55
directly and he accompanies us, we02:06:57
must reach that threshold,02:07:00
that Marian threshold so that our02:07:03
deified soul is purified and deized,02:07:06
you come to generate like a mother the son02:07:10
in us the only begotten this only begotten02:07:14
born in our womb will be the space in02:07:18
us which is a precise part of the heart that02:07:22
will allow us to house first the02:07:26
Christ then the father and therefore return02:07:30
home02:07:32
well02:07:34
Now I would like to talk to you about this02:07:38
only begotten because if everything is to arrive02:07:40
at the only begotten the soul02:07:44
becomes the generator of a Divine02:07:46
this only begotten of God in us I have to02:07:48
understand what only begotten means because I02:07:51
told you only begotten means born02:07:52
Duno but it means also say the only one born02:07:55
Then the only one born is the Christ born of02:07:58
God let's say born to understand each other generated02:08:01
not created but in my being at a certain02:08:05
point I have to in my soul deiz I have to02:08:09
create the conditions so that a one is born02:08:11
this one will bring me I have called02:08:16
Christ and then to the father because Christ02:08:18
is born in us thanks to the mother and then02:08:23
Christ takes us to the father therefore the soul02:08:25
deity allows Christ to be born in02:08:29
our heart Christ then takes us to the02:08:31
father and at this point we arrive at verse02:08:35
18 there is a beautiful final point and this is02:08:38
the whole story in 18 verses we have02:08:41
had from creation to testimony02:08:44
to the journey to the transformation of02:08:47
darkness and the soul that Dezza and02:08:51
allows the birth of the Divine in us we02:08:54
return home I like to say it so and02:08:58
now I want to talk to you about these02:09:00
only begotten Yes how does the birth02:09:03
of the only begotten happen because we have this little02:09:06
time then we will talk about that other02:09:08
thing no about the mens Zele and we made02:09:10
the timetable but there are so many questions02:09:13
so many messages Enzo I wanted if you are02:09:16
the only begotten Why otherwise I wouldn't do this02:09:18
and then I would read some messages that are02:09:20
important Yes that's fine Then I'll do it02:09:23
in summary and then we'll see when I02:09:25
start my interior work first02:09:27
thing I have to remember one very02:09:30
clear thing that when we went out from the02:09:33
door of the earthly paradise we02:09:35
came out with two Ethers the era of light and02:09:38
letterer of heat the other two Ethers02:09:41
therefore the other two forces of life02:09:43
remained in paradise letters of cynicism02:09:45
therefore letters of order and letters02:09:48
of life and in fact we die because02:09:50
the 'age of life remained there I have02:09:52
light and heat so I have to work02:09:55
on these two forces to be able to return02:09:58
home so the light means02:10:01
meditation on the triad of the head02:10:03
pituitary gland epiphysis and the seventh Chakra02:10:07
develop these three forces of the of the of the02:10:10
head these will produce three seeds seeds02:10:13
so to speak eh here is the mystery02:10:15
of the cry let's not I won't say a word02:10:19
more these three breasts will descend into02:10:22
our interiority here what happens is what02:10:25
the edification of the soul and the soul02:10:28
will prepare three cradles and these three seeds02:10:32
will descend and will be fertile year02:10:35
these three cradles of our soul02:10:37
these three cradles of our soul02:10:40
will generate three Children these three02:10:43
Children will be born from our02:10:47
sternum three sternal Chakras no longer the02:10:50
spinal column but the02:10:53
sternal column These are the three02:10:56
Children these three Children who02:10:59
will be the three components of the02:11:02
physical body body soul and spirit and when I02:11:06
die they will remain preserved forever02:11:10
that is there will no longer be the decay02:11:13
of the etheric body of the soul and the02:11:16
physical body they will be preserved because02:11:19
deized therefore my blessed soul will be able02:11:23
to generate these three children from which I02:11:26
pass Let the children come to02:11:29
me it was not a kindergarten it was not a02:11:32
kindergarten it was the children02:11:35
born from the breast let us return to the breast02:11:38
because the sternum is the blessed breast the02:11:41
fruit of your breast is this is a truth02:11:43
from the womb we are born therefore these02:11:47
three Children are born that when these three02:11:50
Children and therefore the eternity of our02:11:53
even lower bodies reach a02:11:55
sufficient level of harmony these02:11:58
three Children will have their Q1 their02:12:02
Q1 is what in the Gospel is written02:12:05
with clarity but poorly translated the02:12:08
child because it is no longer neither male nor02:12:11
female the child is nothing other than02:12:15
the one therefore this parent will be born from the02:12:20
deity of our soul And will receive02:12:23
these three spiritual seeds of light they02:12:26
will carry them into her womb of love and02:12:28
they will generate the three Children until we02:12:31
reach the only begotten and this02:12:33
only begotten who is born from our womb will be02:12:36
the one who will bring us that only begotten thing02:12:39
of God who in the womb of the father02:12:42
brought himself to understand it because as it02:12:44
will be born from our womb by resonance02:12:48
it will be born we will also be born in bosom of the02:12:51
father father of the Holy Trinity and02:12:55
therefore we are united with the Christ because02:12:58
the Christ is of the Holy Trinity not02:13:01
of the Holy therefore we go to the02:13:04
Holy Trinity these are this is02:13:07
the only begotten who is mentioned here02:13:10
twice and is born from us and there is a job to02:13:13
do and there is a job to do are02:13:15
meditations exercises clearly02:13:18
alcohol I no longer know what it is so many02:13:20
behaviors are no longer like what02:13:23
they are because I can't serve two02:13:25
masters at a certain point I have to make02:13:27
a decision in my life So we02:13:30
also honor these Children02:13:34
Let the children come to me and02:13:38
with this massacring the prologue of02:13:41
John because we have cut02:13:42
a lot I have ended up on02:13:46
this02:13:48
path and now there are questions or02:13:52
there is this bridge to be made in that02:13:54
foundation as you mentioned at the beginning with02:13:57
the foundation of the02:13:59
anthroposophical society of the Christmas conference of the02:14:01
23rd I Dari space precisely G scators who02:14:04
participated in a very active way02:14:06
with even02:14:08
important questions Of course this work that02:14:10
you have brought us is so demanding so02:14:12
strong we hope as you said that02:14:14
people stopped and didn't run02:14:16
a red light and And so on the road I heard02:14:20
many accidents here You heard many02:14:21
accidents Okay and so02:14:25
let's say it gives back to the prologue02:14:29
the importance and the completeness and the02:14:32
richness of the contents and and therefore02:14:36
one yes he can also ask but it is not02:14:38
enough for one to do moral behavior02:14:40
to make Christ grow in him and therefore02:14:43
go to the father's bosom but oh well02:14:45
This is a question but I would like to02:14:47
read calmly what to say what What does02:14:50
moral not moral mean and here we open02:14:53
a question another parenthesis Oh well maybe02:14:56
we read the02:14:57
messages Yes yes let's read the02:14:59
messages In the meantime and then there's Ron Noel Eleonora02:15:03
badori who thanks for her message02:15:06
which participates in a very particular way02:15:08
and says if we look timidly at the02:15:11
meaning of the logos l of Logos for the02:15:14
etheric life the palindrome ogo because the02:15:18
soul space of Sagittarius unites the02:15:20
micro and the macrocosm in them the the s02:15:23
of the Eagle which seals the word so that02:15:26
the truth of the logos triumphs in the highest02:15:28
sense of the Gospel of John thanks to02:15:30
Enzo to you Elio Corrado and to all the R02:15:33
God for the golden love of the new year02:15:37
tireless moment precious nourishment02:15:40
for the cosmic spirit that rises from02:15:42
this celebrate the word I would say02:15:45
apotheotic apotheosis of existence How to make02:15:49
Divine happy 2024 may all the Arches of02:15:52
Christ with the ch precisely be with everyone02:15:55
you and with those who welcome Aon Noel into their hearts02:15:58
and honor them Here if you want to give02:16:02
such a quick comment Thanks Rono02:16:05
he said everything is perfect He made a02:16:08
prologue here Oh02:16:10
well let's see here then Giovanni02:16:14
strong And what does he tell us Then let's see if you02:16:17
can do it here read some other02:16:18
messages over there and then I read Meanwhile02:16:20
this says good evening and Welcome to02:16:24
Elio, Corrado and Enzo Well here02:16:29
Enzo has brought us to the dimension of the02:16:32
Santissima drita V well I hope02:16:35
the article is always good this evening a02:16:37
good start I wish you good luck for the work02:16:39
we want to do this other year thank you02:16:42
John is with you Always that it would be02:16:44
him in short also the and you should have02:16:47
recommended02:16:48
a remedy for vertigo Yes02:16:50
interesting as such provocation02:16:54
Jesus in the Gospels speaks of himself as the Son02:16:57
of man son of God refers02:16:59
to his dual nature of man born of02:17:01
father and mother or of Christ born of God02:17:04
and if Jesus was also born of a human father and mother02:17:06
why does it say of the Baptist that he is the02:17:09
greatest born of woman Thanks John02:17:11
strong Thanks to you Strong John then02:17:14
let's see about Don't forget First of all02:17:16
we need to understand what02:17:18
Son of man and son of God means02:17:19
we have to go back 2000 years02:17:22
in Jewish culture for02:17:24
Jewish culture there was the son of man who02:17:26
we call spiritual self principle02:17:29
Spirit Holy then the Jews02:17:31
could not go further and said and02:17:33
then behind it there is the son of God but the02:17:36
son of God in reality are two father and02:17:38
son therefore what we02:17:41
call vital spirit Loving02:17:43
principle son in us and the father02:17:46
l 'man spirit therefore Therefore they02:17:48
only saw the superior self in the02:17:50
spiritual self and the other two had02:17:53
unified them in the son of God therefore Jesus02:17:56
says Son of man when he means the02:17:59
superior self and when he means the son of02:18:01
God he speaks of the other two understood So02:18:05
there is with with the Jesus begins to02:18:07
articulate the son of God in the02:18:10
Trinity while for the Jews there was a02:18:13
duality the son of man and the son02:18:15
of God did not understand that in the cool of02:18:17
two there are two floors two wait I hope I have02:18:20
been clear and instead the02:18:23
Baptist was the son of a man Baptist The02:18:26
Baptist Yes because the Baptist was the02:18:28
reincarnation of Elijah therefore he had already been02:18:30
born he had already been earthly and and there the02:18:34
Baptist was born of a woman Jesus was not02:18:37
born of a woman that this it is a topic02:18:39
that creates a thousand problems but if we02:18:43
knew how to read02:18:46
Luke Chapter 3 more carefully when it speaks of the02:18:49
birth of Jesus it is written that at a02:18:52
certain point it seems to me that chapter 31 3202:18:55
when it speaks says that the subject02:18:58
Joseph Joseph who let's say Luke talks02:19:01
about Joseph and then at a certain point he says02:19:03
and gave Joseph in parentheses gave birth to02:19:07
the02:19:09
son and gave birth therefore Joseph02:19:13
gave birth to her son it is written02:19:16
like this So since we know that02:19:18
it is the women who give birth light there it is02:19:21
written that it is Joseph who gives the light and02:19:24
that Either you throw away the Gospel or you say02:19:26
there is a message that I cannot understand02:19:29
because Jesus was born as a body of heat02:19:32
that is, Jesus is Divine you understand and the soul never02:19:36
fall as a body of heat was born from the02:19:38
mother's womb and there are an infinite number02:19:41
of paintings of the Virgin paritur that02:19:44
show you the mother with her cloak open in front of her02:19:46
and you can see the02:19:49
child, still that of Scharz is02:19:51
represented in this way that has been for millennia02:19:53
before Christ it is represented like this02:19:56
therefore Jesus was born from the mother's womb02:19:59
as heat with the heat Joseph02:20:01
initiated the breast takes it and gives it the02:20:04
light therefore letters of heat are02:20:06
added letters of light and wraps it in02:20:09
Blessing swaddling clothes it wraps it in02:20:12
Blessing swaddling clothes and letters of chemism and02:20:14
raises it and here If you want to hurt yourself but it is02:20:18
textual it says that it raises it02:20:20
in the Greppia raises it does not place it in the02:20:24
Greppia because La Greppia you can find it on the02:20:26
internet The Greppia is a system of three02:20:29
stars within the constellation02:20:31
of cancer the constellation of cancer02:20:34
in our body is the rib cage02:20:37
so-called Cave so the child who02:20:41
was born in the cave was born from the02:20:44
rib cage What does cancer mean02:20:46
macrocosm where there is a system of three02:20:49
stars this system of three Stars for02:20:52
the esoteric culture, still already02:20:54
Babylonian, is the entrance door of02:20:57
souls and it is true And this system has02:21:00
two stars above which are called donkeys and02:21:03
there is a star below which is called ox02:21:06
Okay enough so born of the breast Yes he was02:21:11
born it's written in Luke but you have to02:21:14
study Of course otherwise there is because I know that02:21:17
Mary they tell you even now blessed is02:21:19
the fruit of your uterus I heard it02:21:21
once about your uterus Jesus we have arrived02:21:24
and now they will do it with stem cells I don't02:21:26
know what they will do I know what they will end up02:21:28
doing the breast was born as a body of02:21:30
heat so then the02:21:33
Shepherds arrived bread milk and wool which means02:21:36
physical body etheric body and soul and02:21:39
they brought the three lower bodies then02:21:42
the three magi arrived Gold incense and02:21:44
nra the three superior limbs therefore02:21:47
this unity was created but the seed The center02:21:50
is the Jesus let's call him Jesus born from the02:21:54
mother's womb from the same womb of02:21:56
our mother de isata our Jesus will be born02:21:59
if we could I don't know the02:22:03
courage to say it but we will always become02:22:07
with with fearful immodesty02:22:10
we will become Jesus and Christ will descend into02:22:12
us the same thing is repeated but the soul02:22:16
must be stirred up02:22:17
This is the point Divine deified or02:22:20
goddess and Luisa says goddess the term02:22:23
goddess Ah then we have a comment from02:22:26
Luisa a question from Luisa and what02:22:29
Enzo says mentioned the sun on02:22:33
December 18th you said it before can you02:22:36
explain better please Luisa and then02:22:39
he also says it's always impossible02:22:41
to imagine what was there before everything02:22:43
Luisa also what is there after everything02:22:45
then everything but and Okay, a02:22:48
concise answer If you can give it Then02:22:51
I won't say anything about December 18th because the02:22:53
sun is a continuous change so we02:22:57
have seen it and we will see more02:22:58
we should look at the earth what is02:23:00
happening instead with these earthquakes02:23:02
etc. etc. everything is02:23:04
changing my guys everything yes is02:23:07
changing We are the ones who want to be02:23:09
the caryatids that Stop immobile trouble that02:23:13
something happens to us Everything changes the02:23:16
world changes society changes the02:23:18
culture changes the economy changes Oh02:23:21
everything or we are entering a new02:23:24
phase if we understand it well and Sen doesn't02:23:27
we will be overwhelmed and I won't say anything more02:23:29
because of what the other thing was Ah yes it's always02:23:32
impossible to imagine what was there before02:23:34
everything says Luisa interesting02:23:36
question This is a problem this02:23:38
you have to have already chewed02:23:41
things through well because before for example if you02:23:45
know anthroposophy in the middle of the Ancient02:23:48
Saturn the time was born well if it was born in02:23:51
the middle of the Ancient Saturn When was02:23:53
the Ancient Saturn born if the time arrived02:23:55
later Oh yes that's what02:23:57
someone else told us too once again this thing here S02:23:58
Well if space has arrived on the ancient02:24:00
sun where the Ancient Saturn was then02:24:03
we must take a significant step and02:24:06
develop the concept of the being of02:24:09
time and the being of space which02:24:12
were before the their manifestation02:24:16
as space-time so first of all02:24:19
there was, as it were, a whole in the02:24:23
unmanifest of the womb of God where however02:24:25
all the premises were there so entering02:24:29
this dimension you can read02:24:32
Steiner's occult science where I02:24:35
wrote about it in a few pages the three02:24:38
previous phases of Ancient Saturn or you02:24:41
study the Jewish sefirot where02:24:44
they also talk about these three phases and they are02:24:47
called the three Ain Ain Ain sof ainsofaur02:24:50
so you make a comparison between02:24:54
the Jewish sefirot therefore the Kabbalah02:24:57
and occult science you put them together02:25:01
they are not perfectly suitable02:25:04
coincident because the cabal is still02:25:06
Babylonian without a cult from 100 years ago02:25:10
so they are indications for men who02:25:14
had different levels of consciousness02:25:17
but it manages to make a bit of02:25:21
parallelism and there you begin to02:25:23
understand What it was there before and Giovanni02:25:25
forte tells us In fact he tells us Here is the02:25:27
vertigo the dizziness In fact yes Here we02:25:30
go for an hour so we keep it like this I02:25:32
gave you two bibliographical references and02:25:35
good job as I did I02:25:37
studied them eh Then we a comment02:25:39
So I take advantage of this opportunity02:25:42
to send a warm greeting and best wishes02:25:45
to Enzo and to all of you from Fulvio and mililli02:25:49
from02:25:50
Trieste Fulvio Thanks Fulvio Milli Here02:25:53
's how Donatella also thanks us02:25:55
says to all of you Thanks for this new02:25:57
opportunity A hug to Enzo and good02:25:59
continuation Thanks to all of you02:26:02
Here then there is Maria Maria Thank you very much02:26:05
in the first fundamental verses02:26:08
the path of humanity is foreseen according to02:26:12
Freedom naturally Maria B Thank you02:26:15
Maria B yes Here and then Always remember02:26:20
that freedom is the gift that the man must02:26:22
conquer every hierarchy brings a gift02:26:25
We will bring freedom but all the02:26:28
example of the virtues of Mars bring the02:26:32
finalized movement to say but they will all02:26:35
bring their specific I02:26:38
always say a gift that is wrapped in a02:26:40
paper this because a gift goes there a02:26:42
gift goes to us a card Very beautiful the02:26:44
card is always love So all the02:26:48
hierarchies are united in love We02:26:50
will bring freedom in love therefore02:26:54
the light and the warmth those that we have02:26:56
brought with us from the exit of Paradise02:26:59
work on Light and love space and time02:27:03
please Here then there is Luca foldes who says02:27:06
good evening Elio and Corrado Meanwhile thanks02:27:08
to everyone and especially to Enzo My02:27:10
question is in the text of the prologue in Greek02:27:12
there is no verb to be in the present but02:27:14
always in the past start side of Past,02:27:17
present and also future thanks for the02:27:19
answer and best wishes to everyone and then he says02:27:21
again in verse02:27:24
15 Thanks is written as kitos even if02:27:27
Grace's explanation is very clear02:27:29
Luca fodes thanks Luca fodes Well the02:27:31
problem is that you probably have a02:27:32
Gospel Published by the CEI you understand you have to02:27:36
take the text in Greek and find02:27:39
a Greek friend who helps you02:27:41
translate it and you will see that in the verse there02:27:44
is a then and God is the Logos So there is the02:27:47
present Here there is Here then there is It's Good evening02:27:51
I wanted to compliment you on the02:27:52
broadcast for your guest I wanted to02:27:53
ask you where I can find the02:27:55
recording of the broadcast as02:27:56
I wasn't able to follow it all Riccardo02:27:58
Yes Riccardo you can find it on the kelios channel02:28:00
with the telegram k or on the02:28:03
arcadellavita Punit website02:28:05
and then Paul let's see why I read them a02:28:09
bit like this02:28:11
open sea Hello Enzo and the mother of God02:28:14
Jesus Christ made man Mother of God02:28:16
asks where it is in the prologue of John02:28:18
but Saturn was seen the fall of the02:28:21
light represents from how we were02:28:23
told by the esoteric Saturn a remains The02:28:27
Torah was transcribed by the servants of the02:28:29
Jews therefore when there was the first02:28:31
council if even before they02:28:32
transformed the entire law of the Torah02:28:34
for political use The darkness has02:28:37
shadowed the truth by falsifying the02:28:38
history of tales of God through the02:28:40
prophets and this is the universal church02:28:42
referring to the last message and but02:28:45
Jesus existed Solomons the other Jesus02:28:47
Oh well These are the two Jesuses in short Yes02:28:49
but we can't go in like this a little02:28:52
confusing this No okay but it's there the02:28:56
track the background is true we are we live02:28:59
in02:29:01
mystification I don't know how Steiner does it he02:29:04
says the greatest miracle that Christ has done02:29:05
is that Christianity is02:29:08
still alive Ah here there is a miracle that02:29:10
Christianity still exists he says It's a02:29:12
miracle because with all that they02:29:14
have betrayed him and led him astray it is a02:29:17
miracle Here you go, yes then there is another02:29:21
message which also asks about the two02:29:22
children of Jesus and says every 15 days02:29:24
the transmission is too short Oh well02:29:26
in short And02:29:27
let's see02:29:30
Riccardo Yes this is the show you02:29:34
congratulate us Thank you so much for the gift02:29:36
of this evening topics that need02:29:38
to listen carefully again Roberta02:29:40
Bozzi Thanks Roberta02:29:43
and let's see because I'm reading a02:29:46
bit too quickly Yes but before the logos there is a question02:29:49
if you want to read Go good Yes but before02:29:51
the logos who was there if the logos was God02:29:55
and God is eternal Then you can't say02:29:58
that in the beginning it was the logos because you are02:30:01
in contradiction This is a02:30:04
bit Cal calm it can't exist So then it02:30:08
can't continue there is a beginning if02:30:11
God is eternal In my opinion you must first02:30:13
correct what you teach and then02:30:16
perhaps we will be02:30:18
able to pay02:30:22
attention to it Sorry I actually removed02:30:25
that02:30:27
principle I removed it as we02:30:29
started said the inarch translation in the02:30:32
beginning is wrong there is no that02:30:34
principle So he is this friend He02:30:37
is telling us that the principle cannot exist02:30:39
it is the thing that I said from02:30:41
the beginning the principle does not exist there is the02:30:43
foundation there is no principle perhaps02:30:46
where it ends Eh perhaps he didn't listen02:30:49
well Eh I think to me02:30:51
and here there is a message I try to read it I02:30:54
haven't been able to read someone02:30:55
I can read before listening but02:30:57
many others can't And it says even if it's not02:30:59
relevant to the topic discussed today I would like to02:31:01
take this opportunity, kindly, to02:31:02
ask for your opinion to Mr.02:31:04
Nastati I happened to hear Fausto02:31:06
Carotenuto state that the dead suicides02:31:08
that he claims he went to visit02:31:10
are very, very happy despite02:31:12
what is believed, it is difficult for me to02:31:14
accept this statement based on the02:31:16
knowledge I have and it is This is why02:31:17
I am very interested in the02:31:19
opinion of an independent researcher. I02:31:20
apologize for my boldness. I hope it's not too02:31:22
inappropriate with Madam. I've been with you,02:31:24
brilliant presenters, with all the02:31:25
listeners. I thank you for your attention.02:31:27
Girolomo. Okay well, in the Gospel it is02:31:30
clearly written that there is a sin that is not02:31:32
forgiven which is the sin against the02:31:34
Holy Spirit no Sin against the02:31:37
holy spirit it is the sin against02:31:39
life so when I take my own life it02:31:42
means that I have no faith I no longer02:31:43
trust I no longer have hope there is no I have02:31:45
nothing left so I put myself out this02:31:48
is not forgiven but it is not02:31:49
forgiven it is not that in the sense that you are02:31:52
damned forever in the sense that you are02:31:54
forced to return so a sin02:31:57
against the spirit is suicide or one02:31:59
of the sins against the spirit it's02:32:01
suicide so they're not happy like02:32:04
Easter I don't know where In which group did02:32:08
the good Fasto go to visit them but I'd02:32:12
really say no here and02:32:15
we said this here Eh no then02:32:18
A heartfelt thank you to Elio and Corrado for02:32:20
all the work you do And thanks02:32:23
to Enzo for his work Very precious02:32:26
and best wishes to all of you for a02:32:28
bright new year Anna02:32:32
Here unfortunately we also have some02:32:34
phone calls we can't take them02:32:35
because yes we are going to interrupt02:32:38
this exchange a bit and well let's go then02:32:41
a bit now we've done the round of messages a bit02:32:44
And yes if you want to say something then02:32:47
we still have a bit of time and after02:32:49
we will put a song at the end of02:32:51
Franco Mussida which is really a song02:32:53
about best wishes for the new year and that G02:32:56
said yes you can put the song on the02:32:58
radio as long as you say hello to02:33:00
the area and Loredana your wife also02:33:03
wants to say hello thanks eh I heard02:33:05
that song too two days ago and02:33:08
I really thought of Bon Franco we02:33:10
met many years ago and also02:33:12
Loredana Loredana Yes tough Loredana02:33:17
Yes behind a great man There is always a02:33:19
great woman As they say Oh yes she's a02:33:22
great yes or02:33:24
next to me that's fine I have in front Okay then02:33:28
let's try to move forward a a little bit02:33:30
let's try to continue a little bit more yes02:33:31
then we also wanted to hear a little bit of your02:33:33
final wish but we have02:33:36
time in short yes you tell me how much time02:33:39
I have to do this topic now 1402:33:42
minutes yes it's yes yes yes okay but02:33:44
there's I have the watch okay So now02:33:47
let's try to make a bridge between what02:33:50
we saw in the prologue and what 190002:33:54
years later the ster wrote in his02:33:57
soul of man I think that the02:33:59
listeners at least some of them02:34:01
know it is this Evocation this02:34:04
prayer this mantra that he read02:34:07
during the days of the Christmas conference02:34:09
of the02:34:10
23rd to arrive until December 31st of the02:34:13
23rd when he re-founded the02:34:16
anthroposophical society and placed himself as02:34:19
president02:34:21
therefore carrying the work he had02:34:24
he was not a member it was only his02:34:27
task it was that of acting as a bridge between02:34:29
the anthroposophical entity and the02:34:32
anthroposophical society of Then the02:34:34
anthroposophical society of Then let's say that it02:34:36
had derailed a bit. Let's use this02:34:38
term. And so he closed it and02:34:41
re-founded it and put himself as responsible02:34:44
and he gave this meditation as02:34:47
eh let's say as a reference mantra02:34:51
that the reference is the soul of man02:34:54
Then we saw in John02:34:57
This famous plenitude we saw02:34:59
the plenitude as a Marian element that02:35:02
will allow the birth of the only begotten02:35:04
That is, let's not lose this and we have02:35:07
seen Ancient Saturn many things02:35:09
Okay but now let's not lose let's say how to02:35:12
say what has been there has been02:35:14
now we with this dezz aion of02:35:17
our soul we can arrive that02:35:19
our soul allows02:35:22
this Christic element to be born this is02:35:24
the important thing and then receiving the couples02:35:27
of the resurrected and everything is enriched but the02:35:30
point is this here then always in the02:35:33
prologue we saw these continuous02:35:35
expansions reversals contractions which02:35:38
served the term used to massage02:35:40
our soul now therefore this02:35:43
movement of the soul which it is mental based02:35:46
because my soul is the one that has the02:35:48
perceptions and having the perceptions on its02:35:52
side the soul then responds I like it I don't02:35:54
like it but this is the soul let's say a02:35:56
little illiterate when the soul has the02:35:59
perceptions then my I my spirit02:36:02
connects to perceptions and draws02:36:05
concepts from them if I as a spirit like I don't02:36:08
have a soul that brings me perceptions I02:36:11
'm blind mute I don't do anything therefore02:36:14
the soul that moves with these02:36:17
reversals contractions expansions I02:36:20
mentioned the Greek tragedy is fundamental02:36:22
therefore the others and lows of life no02:36:25
let's put it that way they are fundamental to02:36:28
have certain experiences these02:36:30
certain experiences allow my02:36:33
self to grow This is the point so02:36:36
it's good it's bad I always tell you when02:36:38
everything is fine I fall asleep So if I02:36:41
falling asleep means that it's not good02:36:42
when everything is bad I wake up and if02:36:45
I wake up it's good because it starts to02:36:47
evolve So let's leave good and bad to02:36:50
someone else but I'm interested in the02:36:52
prologue as a movement of the soul to02:36:55
arrive at this deiz tion and I don't say02:36:59
divination I actually say Goddess Because the02:37:02
term Goddess the soul becomes02:37:04
Mother Goddess Which means nurse and02:37:08
means educator therefore in my02:37:11
transformed divinized soul I will create the02:37:15
foundations to develop the three Children and02:37:18
the only begotten of the plus one all of this02:37:21
now we bring it 1900 years later to the02:37:24
moment in which Stein founded and re-founded the02:37:28
anthroposophical society and this02:37:32
meditation that he gives is based a lot on02:37:35
space and time which means nothing more than02:37:37
ethers of light and heat, always those02:37:40
two with which we left paradise02:37:42
terrestrial and begins with the soul02:37:45
of man02:37:47
that you live in the members Now I don't02:37:50
want to read it all But02:37:52
soul of man that through you the02:37:55
world of space brings into the02:37:58
living sea of the spirit takes care of the memory02:38:01
of the spirit and Ah does not exercise care02:38:04
So yes I'll cut a little care I've already02:38:08
told you in private translated again02:38:11
practice the German verb is Ive Ive is a02:38:16
verb that is almost no longer used let's say02:38:18
in common speech just as in02:38:20
Italian there are verbs that are a bit lost and a02:38:23
verb which was used by gardeners02:38:25
when a gardener works on a02:38:27
plant the care is therefore not the fertilization or02:38:32
the hoe. I take care there is a whole02:38:35
attitude of the soul there is the02:38:36
veneration the devotion therefore taking care of02:38:40
the plant because when one is a02:38:44
let's say neophyte on the02:38:46
spiritual path becomes neophyte where02:38:49
neo means new and FITA would be phyto02:38:53
Which means plant so we02:38:55
become seedlings so Stan02:38:59
used a gardeners verb and he doesn't02:39:01
exercise which is a military verb02:39:03
So there is devotion okay and02:39:06
truly you will live etc. etc.02:39:08
This is what the elementary spirits hear in the02:39:11
east, west, north, south. So here is02:39:14
another point that we must02:39:16
learn more about because we know the02:39:18
elementary beings, gomi Din, sfi,02:39:21
salamanders, the beings of the earth,02:39:23
water and of the air of Fire here02:39:26
Steiner does not speak of02:39:27
elementary beings he speaks of02:39:29
elementary spirits and it is not clear what02:39:32
these elementary spirits are the02:39:34
elementary spirits are that part of the02:39:37
elementary beings beings means having an02:39:40
etheric body, a soul and a sub-02:39:43
physical body therefore they do not have spirit therefore02:39:45
the elementary spirits do not evolve02:39:48
instead they are a category a part02:39:51
of the elementary beings that has02:39:52
recognized the light of Christ and therefore02:39:55
entered into a very distant process of02:39:59
evolution but there will be So now02:40:04
they are the ones who are working in the02:40:06
earth to transform the earth and the02:40:08
nature in the new all these02:40:11
changes in nature are to02:40:13
bring the earth to a new dimension02:40:15
n a new quality from four seasons a02:40:17
three season system will arrive02:40:20
we all know that in autumn the apple trees02:40:22
produce flowers again and produce02:40:23
small fruits we had not never seen before02:40:26
we are entering another system If02:40:28
we want and the earth moves02:40:30
internally there is a frenetic activity02:40:33
inside the earth for the change of02:40:36
this and therefore all of nature It is like02:40:39
a little abandoned because the02:40:41
elementary beings are busy In these are02:40:45
FR almost returned in this work and if02:40:47
instead we appeal to the02:40:50
elementary spirits the Christic ones these are02:40:53
in an infinite number and they are the ones who02:40:56
will create the new etheric body to the02:40:58
plants to the animals etc. etc.02:41:00
therefore nature is changing02:41:03
etheric body the Christ is acting in the02:41:06
etheric body brings new etheric forces and02:41:09
therefore we will pass slowly but02:41:12
we will pass from a system of02:41:14
elementary beings to a system of02:41:17
elementary spirits the part of nature that02:41:19
will do this will evolve and live the part02:41:23
of nature and I am talking about02:41:25
chemical agriculture which instead is linked to being of02:41:28
death will disappear And those who work in02:41:31
agriculture know that the diseases are more and more and more02:41:33
and more and02:41:36
more because this is destined to02:41:39
disappear while it is a job to which I02:41:42
dedicate myself to growing plants that instead do not have02:41:44
any disease you connect the02:41:46
elementary spirits and this is done therefore02:41:49
in the soul of man the menele in this02:41:52
meditation there is the whole soul element02:41:54
because three times the stania says soul02:41:56
of man you live in the limbs then it says02:41:59
soul of man you live in the sare of the02:42:02
heart of the lungs soul of man You02:42:05
live in the Quiet of the head therefore it gives you02:42:07
the three articulation02:42:10
of the soul we could say the soul Rational02:42:13
conscious sentient02:42:15
this deaz question of the soul that02:42:18
will come to move even the02:42:20
elementary beings G spirits elementary and this02:42:23
will allow us what to get02:42:26
to the last part then tell me if Tell me if02:42:29
you want us to talk more But so02:42:31
this part here that I told you these02:42:33
three souls become the foundation and02:42:37
let's go back to the word foundation to02:42:39
get to the last part which says at the02:42:42
Turning of Times the light of the02:42:44
universal spirit Ale entered the current02:42:46
of the earthly being the darkness of the02:42:50
night had reached the end of its02:42:52
dominion the famous the darkness that02:42:54
suffocated it clear light of the day ragi02:42:58
in human souls light that warms the02:43:01
poor hearts of the shepherds light that02:43:05
illuminates the wise minds of the Kings02:43:08
divine light Christ the sun warms our02:43:12
hearts illuminates our minds Until we02:43:16
turn to the good what we with our hearts02:43:19
fuse what we with our minds02:43:21
want to direct to the goal therefore the02:43:24
evolutionary plan Therefore in the hearts02:43:27
we found we have the foundation of the heart02:43:29
the opening of the heart where the three02:43:32
Children are born up to the one born and we arrive02:43:35
straight to the goal Then to the Christ within02:43:38
us to the father within us and we return home I02:43:42
would say that we have said it all though if02:43:45
you ask something, ask yes and02:43:48
then this Deis aione02:43:50
of the soul of the soul of man is02:43:54
connected to the deaz question of the prologue02:43:56
that you were telling us before Exactly Exactly02:44:01
We have forgotten the soul but not02:44:04
forgotten the soul is a jumble of02:44:07
things It must be educated like everything and it must be02:44:10
deified like the soul must rise to the level of God's instrument02:44:13
the soul must be given and there is the mother02:44:16
because I told you there is the mother02:44:17
Candelora The Magdalene who purifies But then there02:44:21
'it is the mother Sofia who illuminates there is02:44:24
the mother of infinite love who is the02:44:26
zodiac mother there is the mother who02:44:28
accompanies us in evolutionary changes which02:44:30
would be that of the dead of02:44:33
November 2nd there is the mother who supports us02:44:36
in evolutionary changes therefore she02:44:38
supports us with her cloak of Love there is02:44:41
the mother who nourishes the soul so that we02:44:44
can the Divine there is the mother of02:44:47
Christ in us there is the mother of the father in02:44:50
us there is the mother of all mothers Today02:44:54
January 1st the holiday is Holy02:44:57
Mother of God and what it means we don't02:45:00
even realize what02:45:02
Holy Mother of God means we don't know02:45:06
We have forgotten everything we have to02:45:08
rebuild this Holy Mother of02:45:10
God only in the Holy Trinity So02:45:13
when I I see the black sky Science02:45:16
has told us that the black sky is02:45:18
dark matter because 80-90% of02:45:21
the mass is missing to make it onto the planets. This is what they02:45:24
told us but then since in02:45:26
Genesis it is written that God separated the02:45:28
waters of below and those above02:45:31
and those above he called02:45:33
firmament and those below he02:45:35
called water like sea now I can02:45:38
do 2 + 2 I get there because as in the02:45:42
waters below I am there as a man as02:45:45
nature with my cells and each02:45:48
cell we have we have two minutes Enzo02:45:50
if you can finish then say goodbye02:45:52
Yes the cell swims in the02:45:54
interstitial liquid the interstitial liquid is02:45:57
what nourishes the cells when I02:45:58
look at the sky the black sky is the02:46:01
interstitial liquid of the02:46:02
cosmic mother that nourishes the stars the stars02:46:05
are the sources of love but they are02:46:08
nourished by the cosmic mother the Most Holy02:46:11
Mother of02:46:12
God we no longer understand anything Here we are02:46:16
blind who lead other blind as02:46:18
the Gospel says and they both go into the02:46:20
ditch so let's read these things that02:46:23
are there We are not abandoned We are not at02:46:26
all abandoned Everything is written and02:46:29
everything is ready for us only that everything02:46:32
has been distorted a lot and there is a great02:46:34
job of turning on the light okay You02:46:38
know very well that this is not mine this is not02:46:41
my profession I do other things02:46:43
but at a certain point I got together with02:46:45
other friends who I will always thank. We02:46:48
worked hard and you know that02:46:50
we spent 10 years translating the02:46:52
gospels because there was so much to put in02:46:55
order and then we continue because I02:46:58
continue Why do we continue When it is02:47:00
discovered continue you can't take 402:47:03
seconds a discoloration sent us02:47:05
the image of cancer with the stars of the02:47:06
nativity scene called exactly like that thank you And02:47:10
don't be afraid of anything everything comes02:47:12
from God who is a source of love here02:47:15
give us a greeting 20 seconds and we02:47:17
thank you very much if02:47:20
the02:47:21
thing ends well I would like to say There is a single truth02:47:25
that everything is love Everything is love everything02:47:28
in everything in infinite multiplicity 502:47:31
seconds Renzo We truly hug you from the bottom of our02:47:33
hearts with a huge thank you and good02:47:36
continuation of02:47:43
everything02:47:50
[Music]02:48:09
and we02:48:12
all live in this little02:48:15
time and every year is02:48:19
the wish for a better year02:48:22
[Music]02:48:23
we are divided on everything and yet in02:48:30
each of us lies the02:48:34
pain of staying02:48:42
away from us [Music] Cli02:48:45
awakening of every new02:48:49
morning consoles us the memory of02:48:53
our02:48:57
childish nature that invites us to02:49:01
love without a02:49:04
precise purpose nourishes us02:49:08
pushes us to cultivate a02:49:12
smile it is not only02:49:15
spare that we can02:49:19
understand that we can feel that we are an undivided02:49:24
whole02:49:25
[Music]02:49:29
Happy New Year to02:49:33
you are a world of02:49:37
good02:49:43
thoughts year is02:49:47
that what you call love can have an02:49:51
impact on02:49:56
deciding02:49:57
happy new year to02:50:01
you lots of luck and good musicDescription:
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