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Rio 3 days in routers well, I’m00:00:05
actually confused already in these news feeds00:00:07
why you were invited to a lot of things a00:00:09
criminal case in a survey beautiful bomb00:00:12
dyer00:00:16
on the federal wanted list so I won’t00:00:19
ask where you are I can00:00:22
tell I’m not I’m in the territory00:00:24
controlled by the federal wanted list,00:00:28
secondly, you created a help service,00:00:31
the service00:00:32
is correct, I call the pawns of the plan service00:00:36
a girl, yes, this is your past Instagram00:00:38
account, as far as I understand, there are quite a00:00:40
lot of subscribers there and I follow the00:00:42
activities of the service, it’s very interesting, we’ll00:00:45
talk about this with you too, and00:00:46
find accounts of one and a half million rubles00:00:49
minus on your bank cards in00:00:52
even and a half million it was00:00:54
totaled work in the amount with you00:00:57
Ilya we are confused pink hidden00:01:01
tell us we will start in the West such00:01:03
Russians are starting to00:01:06
quickly understand my bad ones and00:01:10
well which ones or city ones who are00:01:12
putting on the federal wanted list them00:01:14
who in Russia who didn’t leave didn’t00:01:16
condemn and didn’t do enough to00:01:17
overthrow this government, but these pakiru yes yes yes and00:01:22
oh there wasn’t a list that00:01:27
I right now the time I don’t00:01:30
have a lot every day, it seems to me they started talking and00:01:32
rap about you asking, it seems to me that00:01:35
somehow it is necessary to leave Tito’s discussion with all our might,00:01:37
in principle, because00:01:40
this is mutual condemnation; no one left00:01:43
who stayed, it seems to me, and is doing00:01:45
exclusively more harm to people because00:01:49
people left, it seems to me to stay, this is not a00:01:52
political gesture, for some reason there is a00:01:53
political gesture involved in this, in00:01:56
fact, even not so,00:01:58
well, that is, for Ilya Yashin this is a00:01:59
political gesture, here it’s really00:02:01
clear, but for the rest this is00:02:03
political growth, so they leave for the00:02:06
benefit of the steel, in fact, the choice of00:02:08
safety and comfort is a choice I don’t know,00:02:10
wait, you know Sasha jump Lenka the00:02:13
artist who is sitting Asoka doing00:02:16
discrediting her choice to stay, it00:02:19
might have been a search for security,00:02:21
maybe it wasn’t a political gesture, but00:02:23
it was an accio low gesture, but I would have them00:02:26
again, I don’t00:02:28
know Sasha and I don’t know the whole backstory,00:02:31
and now you’re hanging out seriously, that means00:02:34
something that we don’t know how he left, either00:02:37
Sashi is there or the boar managed to leave before,00:02:39
too, everything happened there quite00:02:43
unexpectedly, I mean, there is such a00:02:46
black and white situation in Syria that it is necessary00:02:47
when, well, it was clear that he was imprisoned,00:02:50
it was understood to be put in place, he decided to stay00:02:53
despite all these consequences00:02:54
loudness is not why people stay, they00:02:56
stay further because they have a home and00:03:00
as if I can’t tell a single00:03:02
person with difficulty and go in general, you went00:03:04
somewhere, why and what to do there, but00:03:07
loudly and they leave because they have a home and a00:03:10
feeling of security and are they leaving or are they00:03:13
under journalists? I don’t00:03:16
know, for me it’s political,00:03:17
to shake it up is not a political gesture, it’s00:03:19
as if I understand that and forgive me, I wouldn’t be00:03:22
able to do what is important for me to do, yes,00:03:25
it’s not politics, I turned it down, I don’t have a00:03:27
name for it, well, no I just can’t bring you together00:03:29
other journalists who stayed with us and00:03:31
are doing it, so it seems to me that this is absolutely something you00:03:34
start to somehow00:03:36
generalize and discuss this or that00:03:38
side, this is a little psychopathy now00:03:41
because you start and absolutely00:03:42
choose at this moment a person’s experience a00:03:45
person’s view I don’t know the feelings of a person,00:03:48
the age of a person, by the way, and let’s start,00:03:52
why did you leave, why is this terrible00:03:56
devotion to duty, there are no enemies there, are you00:03:58
still arguing about where to leave or but this is00:04:01
all very interesting, yes, in the server00:04:03
they criticized people who went to Serbia,00:04:05
I saw00:04:09
someone pissed off despair and anger this00:04:12
and hatred of will accumulate it must go00:04:14
out somewhere and it goes out00:04:15
safe places are also dangerous places it’s not00:04:17
just impossible no I’m a role look00:04:21
how it seems to me what is the motivation of00:04:22
people who, let’s say so, look with surprise00:04:25
at how they lead myself the00:04:27
intelligentsia of the intelligentsia will not have a year of00:04:29
fruition the liberal public who00:04:30
left and are trying to build something in exile00:04:32
because they feel that00:04:34
they are also being dehumanized, that it is precisely00:04:36
Russophobia that is being shown by all the people who00:04:38
left and now they say you stayed, you00:04:41
did nothing, well, I won’t say00:04:42
about the failure as a price, you00:04:44
understand this perfectly because these people,00:04:46
this is the intelligentsia, does not provide00:04:48
any choice of how to00:04:51
behave, how to be a worthy person,00:04:52
if for example you have no privileges, if00:04:55
you do not have millions of rubles in your accounts,00:04:57
if you do not have the opportunity to leave and00:04:59
rent or buy an apartment in00:05:02
Tbilisi, you understand the Korean approach,00:05:05
you present it00:05:07
clearly,00:05:10
well, I don’t know, I agree that you are00:05:12
not the personification of this image,00:05:14
right, how many people wrote about you, I don’t know, I did00:05:17
n’t want to be the personification of any00:05:19
image because00:05:21
I pay 100 that’s what 50 is not clear00:05:25
what does it mean to offer who now no00:05:28
one can offer anything to anyone there are00:05:30
people who left they had00:05:33
as if hello it’s some kind of privilege to00:05:35
leave and at the same time there’s no00:05:39
trauma at all because losing a home isn’t00:05:41
actually living with the feeling that I’m not at00:05:43
enmity to come back home and for example00:05:46
how I bought Mary Kay with my00:05:48
93-year-old grandfather whom I would simply00:05:50
never see. actually, it has00:05:52
its downsides,00:05:55
and00:05:56
that’s what it means to offer something, I00:05:59
have, having left, there is an opportunity00:06:01
to talk,00:06:03
there is an opportunity to speak, there is an00:06:05
opportunity to show some things, to00:06:08
offer something in general, who can00:06:11
offer something to someone because I’m not looking for I00:06:13
really understand, well, in general, some kind of00:06:15
concept of some kind of projection of the future for00:06:17
us for all of us, it wouldn’t be in the same00:06:19
sense, I was writing about this failure as a00:06:21
nation there, my wife was [ __ ] up, you wrote there00:06:24
in we00:06:27
take everything personally, I don’t know00:06:30
the meaning00:06:31
actually so you didn’t wait until 100, I can00:06:34
suggest that you strictly offer us, I00:06:37
suggest you hear the sarikom of the ocean, you are00:06:40
specific and wrote out and the people who00:06:43
have these lamas in public opinion00:06:45
before liberally, they wrote some kind of00:06:47
program or something, they still got up a little00:06:50
on a stool puts on and white coat and00:06:52
in front of people who remain in Russia00:06:54
they gave such pretentious speeches in my00:06:57
opinion very often and give00:06:59
examples of what it means to be a dad and give a speech00:07:01
in front of people who are in Russia, well, I don’t know00:07:04
Anna Narinskaya recently wrote a post about00:07:07
how she didn’t give it directly it’s to the 10000:07:10
rubles to a homeless person who asked for it00:07:12
because he had a St. George’s00:07:13
ribbon, that’s a man in a white coat00:07:16
to feel that he can’t come to terms with00:07:18
Lisa with such an expression of position, as00:07:21
if the homeless person was putting00:07:23
some kind of meaning into something and this of course looks00:07:25
as00:07:26
ugly as possible, unethical that is it on us,00:07:29
wait, I'm here payment asked Roman in the00:07:32
first questions to the risk, they create00:07:35
in place of not the prime minister for some reason, I00:07:39
because it’s easier to talk about examples right away,00:07:42
from the fact that00:07:44
Alina Rin Skinny gave the homeless children00:07:46
how to walk in Moscow later boldly00:07:48
the ribbon is unlikely to be seen here for the sake of you00:07:49
on I’m telling all the same questions the00:07:52
phenomenon of the one who left the station then the00:07:54
Narinsky computer end of Moscow00:07:56
wrote probably Tom didn’t read those that00:08:00
when George looks like a ribbon and she00:08:02
breaks everything, it’s actually not a white coat00:08:06
said ok I’ll take it off then00:08:09
then find this ribbon, that is, he didn’t00:08:10
give a damn, well, I don’t know if00:08:13
he doesn’t care, they don’t water it, she00:08:15
says that this sign causes00:08:16
such terrible emotions in her that she even00:08:18
gives a homeless person some money, why is this a00:08:21
white coat, then this is the experience I read00:08:23
Is it just this post00:08:25
or is it true that00:08:30
you don’t look at this, I wanted to talk about this00:08:33
in detail, I’m sorry, I’m not00:08:35
because now, because what do00:08:39
we mean, I don’t understand, I understand the offense00:08:43
that some can speak calmly00:08:45
and express everything they think is necessary, while00:08:47
others have their hands tied and to the legs and from the00:08:49
inability to speak normally, it’s00:08:51
as if it’s hard and offensive, I understand, but00:08:54
they say that for some reason those who have left must, that00:08:58
is, as if only you have to00:09:00
offer something, or as if those who have left00:09:04
can no longer offer anything because they00:09:06
have cut themselves off from life and I don’t know this resentment towards00:09:08
those who left at all, I know very00:09:10
little about it, we see those who left who00:09:12
left and started talking really, why are00:09:15
you left, why are you not leaving,00:09:17
well, there are probably such stupid00:09:20
people who say this, I’m sorry that00:09:23
no, what was it? there were a lot of very many00:09:25
messages that if you don’t leave,00:09:28
that you are a silent accomplice or something,00:09:31
reduce all this action too, some are00:09:34
cruel, this is cruel and unfair,00:09:38
and00:09:40
I completely disagree with this, but you00:09:43
shouldn’t think that all people think that00:09:44
those who are these people left, but no,00:09:47
of course not, I think that actually by00:09:49
January, it seems to me that if we’re not00:09:52
looking for it lol lol lol lol lol lol,00:09:57
then it seems that the task of turnover is to make sure00:10:01
that they say that guys stop00:10:03
standing for each other also demand a lover,00:10:06
in fact,00:10:07
all clubs are different, yes, maybe00:10:09
football in Moscow is one crap, you can00:10:12
kill anyone, climb up or in Riga, this is00:10:14
another crap, you gave something to someone00:10:17
better than someone else00:10:18
people who are simply going crazy in00:10:21
others because they don’t have a home,00:10:24
look, the thing is to be a mother, not so you left,00:10:27
and look, anyway, the hands of the Russian00:10:31
state are trying to reach you on the00:10:33
beach, State Duma deputy Vitaly Milonov, what did00:10:36
he say, what should you do with him now,00:10:38
he’s not abroad after all00:10:40
I know how relevant and timely you are now00:10:42
and in May, but we need to return00:10:44
honor to our practice, how did00:10:46
Bandera’s graves appear, he asks with the00:10:48
help of the Soviet secret services, they00:10:50
promptly provided him with a meeting00:10:52
with Satan, it would be good tradition, there is no00:10:54
need to declare anything, just scoundrels00:10:55
who say the Russians you are not people00:10:57
should leave to the kingdom of Bandera as00:10:59
quickly as possible, this quote is from00:11:01
State Duma deputies Vitaly Milonov, as I understand it,00:11:04
it’s simple, I’m lying like that, no, it’s a direct call,00:11:07
my call is as if we00:11:09
should laugh because it’s00:11:11
millions, but damn, and this is a direct call from00:11:13
this, it’s scary, what is this even00:11:14
possible, but I’m saying this article there are00:11:18
decks, but of course it’s the scariest horror film,00:11:22
officially I’m afraid to look00:11:24
at them there, in my opinion, they’re especially scary when00:11:26
there’s an occasion where it’s true, that’s why00:11:28
it’s such a meal, I honestly even00:11:33
already lived that I noticed it myself so that all00:11:34
of a sudden it means doing a dedicated job of00:11:37
looking for and what they write about you 3 found the00:11:38
same one here no one noticed but for some00:11:41
reason I took it and it’s noticeable, well, the00:11:44
absurdity is that the Nazis are the most absurd to00:11:47
calculations, it all revolves around a quote00:11:50
that is not mine but from stories of the00:11:52
support service about a person there protesting the00:11:54
efforts of everyone and again they00:11:57
drew blood from such a presentation, you know, well, I’m00:12:01
scared and I’m not scared to you, but this is a real00:12:03
threat from the threats of Deputy00:12:05
Milonov,00:12:06
but maybe someone you understand how he00:12:08
notes and someone takes on a pencil, no, you don’t00:12:11
understand what’s going on00:12:12
there, who notices and someone is scared, yes, he00:12:17
knows perfectly well who Deputy00:12:19
Milonov is, that’s00:12:20
how I would answer like this, that’s why00:12:24
or not scary, that’s how easy it is,00:12:26
which is great, that’s00:12:29
how you feel being wanted00:12:31
and and I felt something then you weren’t00:12:33
scared there I00:12:36
called what the feeling is that no it’s00:12:40
not scary that you don’t feel any fear about this it’s00:12:42
just not unpleasant it’s00:12:46
still a little bit of00:12:47
trouble Hector Quest I’ll00:12:49
say which is added in life and00:12:51
this This mix is very disturbing, and00:12:54
because when I pulled such a00:12:57
quantity of some kind of00:12:58
nasty thing into it, it starts to stick,00:13:01
I’m very afraid that it will somehow00:13:04
remain in the soul and like stuck, that is,00:13:07
I don’t want to00:13:09
come into contact with it, it somehow00:13:11
sticks from the street and this and this00:13:13
really worries me, the jumps when you00:13:15
interact with this lines to be00:13:16
assessors the text is naturally a committee or00:13:18
there people are dudar and you think, Lord,00:13:21
this syllable this text on the other00:13:22
hand is unpleasant that until then00:13:25
Ulyanova sticks to you our support for this 100:13:28
day that you are not very much with00:13:30
this, as if with communication there, I don’t know if you’re00:13:32
scared or00:13:34
upset and the question about help, real00:13:37
help for immigrants, look also,00:13:40
again, returning to our beginning of our00:13:42
conversation, this was an initiative with00:13:44
good Russians, absolutely ugly,00:13:46
yes, I hope you don’t do you approve, well, in general,00:13:48
this claim was the same00:13:50
privileged people not signs who was00:13:51
involved in the dispersal of NTV who else Gelman00:13:54
who will not be compared anyway00:13:56
worked for excuse the00:13:58
presidential administration left and now they issue00:14:00
passports to good Russians and you sit, I don’t00:14:03
know, or wait there in Russia until they come for you00:14:05
and say something or somehow00:14:07
try to leave and live and in general it’s not clear00:14:10
what means are there for real little ones and00:14:13
so I’ll say sorry to an ordinary little person00:14:16
some kind of help is offered00:14:19
sorry and you wrote it down it’s offered00:14:23
for fishing line x no00:14:31
the idea is not the idea itself as if00:14:35
he himself was an impulse in general00:14:39
and, moreover, an unoriginal couple00:14:42
there is such as the Belarusians do this,00:14:45
they do it very well and00:14:47
they have from this a very clear and00:14:49
justification why the state communicates00:14:50
like you wait, the embassy can come and00:14:52
even 100 be some kind of then the representative office is00:14:54
very crooked, terribly poorly00:14:56
configured and something like that and not00:14:58
applied to the situation, we’ll forgive you,00:15:01
so of course, of course, it’s00:15:03
quite difficult for me to support this, that is,00:15:05
some kind of absurdity in fact,00:15:07
which still seemed toxic,00:15:11
let me talk about us yes what00:15:14
is your help, I see, I see again,00:15:17
I see what’s happening with the00:15:21
general opportunity to leave Russia and the00:15:23
pain, I want to say that00:15:26
the support is not just a guide to00:15:28
long-term cheats, there are a lot of requests about00:15:29
how to go, like halfway through, but00:15:32
actually there is no task only in with this,00:15:36
spin a lot of others, a00:15:38
lot of others, a lot of things are connected life grow to00:15:40
tessera financial security with00:15:41
physical security with00:15:43
psychological security is00:15:45
not at all tuned in only for girls this is00:15:47
also yours just what do you suggest00:15:48
please have problems write to us we00:15:51
have a lot about this00:15:52
organizations that help, we have a00:15:54
24-hour line of operators whose operators00:15:57
can answer any, in fact,00:15:59
any question, it’s like an evil landing in00:16:01
Riga and we answer it would be very difficult,00:16:03
but it’s true if you don’t know00:16:05
how to get money abroad or don’t00:16:07
raise an actor there is it working or are00:16:09
you just scared you won’t accept00:16:11
dealing with the news how can you just00:16:13
write and get free how will there be00:16:15
support00:16:17
as for specifically how to leave this is00:16:21
the only very sore topic00:16:23
because everything I see now and at this00:16:26
moment I’m sad because that00:16:29
in short there are no righteous people in righteous countries in the world00:16:32
because I have a feeling that in order to,00:16:36
well, there, well, that is, the Russians00:16:39
and they seem to be to blame all around and00:16:42
there is no support for them and00:16:47
sadness and sadness will start to actually00:16:49
support we see even each other00:16:51
instead of doing this00:16:53
jokes and00:16:55
also no one from the outside00:16:58
will seriously support us, so it’s very00:17:01
difficult to leave and it seems everything will be more and00:17:03
more difficult, yes there are strange ones who00:17:06
can only do this conditionally there, Armenia00:17:08
there without knowing Georgia what it will be like there it’s00:17:12
unknown to happen whoever there the Caucasus00:17:15
is changeable, but there is a strange thing in which00:17:19
I am in the union, I want documents that are more and more complex, it’s00:17:20
more and more complex to get more and more complex00:17:22
bank accounts, bundles are almost00:17:24
impossible,00:17:26
and journalists and activists may still00:17:28
be given it, it’s not a fact, but simply if the00:17:31
person is sitting and and you I want to leave, it’s00:17:34
very difficult, a red passport00:17:35
burns a lot of people’s pockets, so it’s a big00:17:38
insult, of course, and you really when at00:17:40
this moment, on the one hand, I don’t know00:17:44
Kasparov, and as they say, let’s make00:17:46
passports, and it’s like terribly arrogant and00:17:50
lack of understanding of people, but on the other hand Is00:17:53
there anyone who will at least call this00:17:55
but will give people the opportunity to subside the dish. of00:17:58
course, not at least to the window will somehow give00:18:00
people the opportunity to really00:18:02
leave safely, I don’t00:18:05
feel unsafe at all and at least somehow00:18:09
settle down to feel the help under my00:18:10
feet was of course very good, the other00:18:13
believed that in my opinion this task is00:18:14
completely impossible to implement, well, I don’t think so at all00:18:16
in this world, but it seems to me that this is a00:18:18
very very difficult task in Pascal,00:18:21
it takes with the help of Ukrainians and this, in00:18:23
my opinion, is absolutely right according to the data and about00:18:26
13 more categories of citizens who are,00:18:29
well, countries that the beginning of this war00:18:31
does not have enough strength or am I who is involved in the00:18:34
support service they ask how00:18:36
safe it is to go there at all, who are00:18:39
these people, and let’s go there, yes, it’s00:18:42
absolutely safe, and for this00:18:44
they did several special things00:18:46
that00:18:50
ensure security, which means, firstly,00:18:54
it’s absolutely anonymous, absolutely, that is,00:18:58
how does it work, you go to the00:19:00
telegram bot helpdesk copper and the bot is there and00:19:04
initiate, just press the00:19:06
start button, you receive a link, we don’t00:19:09
care about us, we don’t connect00:19:11
how your account is with this cheat, that is,00:19:13
we don’t know in which telegram account and00:19:16
this was done, the correspondence doesn’t happen00:19:17
in telegram, the saying happens on00:19:20
our servers and all that we know about a00:19:22
person is the data of the chats to which he writes,00:19:25
that is, and so we have all the information00:19:27
we do not need with our noses, any information in the00:19:30
parables that you identify, yes, that00:19:32
is, we see that the vast majority of00:19:35
questions do not require any personal00:19:37
data to us it doesn’t matter what city you00:19:38
live in next, usually, but it can be00:19:40
useful for us, it’s important not what your name is,00:19:42
video where you are, not your phone number,00:19:44
not your e-mail, nothing from this that00:19:46
will help you live, we don’t need it,00:19:49
so, well, that is, thoughts DAC we don’t really00:19:51
know how safe the tiller is, we00:19:54
made it happen where we00:19:56
know for sure that it doesn’t mean anything, this is the00:19:58
first whole old thing because we00:20:01
have seen different00:20:02
styles issued in recent years and it was00:20:05
very painful 100 plus fbk and it was for me00:20:08
personally how much I worked not far00:20:11
from this, it’s practically there and we became00:20:14
happy with the food index data at00:20:16
the beginning of the year, we see that the worst00:20:20
but also the most dangerous thing can happen00:20:21
Katya breaks when you have something going on00:20:23
inside you teach,00:20:24
so we do it so that as soon as we00:20:28
close for a drink,00:20:31
then in a few days we are completely from the00:20:33
OSCE there we delete this correspondence or there00:20:36
is nowhere else why we don’t store anything00:20:37
and a person always has a button if he is00:20:39
scared on the red button I want to00:20:41
delete from which now these are deleted,00:20:42
that is, we or for this reason00:20:44
specially came up with a system00:20:45
that the buy design does not allow the opportunity00:20:47
identifies anyone as for the people00:20:50
who work, these are people who also do00:20:53
not allow themselves to be invested now because,00:20:55
well, it’s just like security on us, a00:20:59
distributed team, our employees00:21:01
are not in Russia, our00:21:02
employees are located in a variety of00:21:05
countries,00:21:07
Patrick friends,00:21:09
attention, we have quite a lot of people in the00:21:13
editorial office Yes, we actually have a project00:21:14
stack of two parts, one part is the00:21:16
median on telegram, we have the00:21:19
same amount on Instagram and different Instagrams,00:21:21
I’ll send the median00:21:23
to talk about the horror of war, just through00:21:26
people’s stories, this is to go in every time of00:21:28
the war and in general there’s no one there We’re not sitting here, and00:21:30
today, literally in front of your00:21:33
company, I read a story on our Instagram00:21:35
and burst into tears myself about a girl from00:21:37
Kramatorsk whose leg was blown off00:21:40
during shelling of the station, this is part 1,00:21:43
part 2 from in the telegram, she’s just00:21:44
caring because there, on the contrary, we00:21:46
tell you how to understand the system and00:21:49
live and how and I feel like a little00:21:52
better this is only the beginning of the understandable00:21:54
guides it’s difficult to quickly launch a project00:21:56
you are determined by month still does we00:21:58
instagram and it00:21:59
was only called minutes but and then and00:22:02
but it was renamed to the support service00:22:05
so here we are what’s special about it It’s00:22:07
especially valuable that we have a lot of guys00:22:10
from Ukraine who are Ukrainians and00:22:13
are in the editorial office in Ukraine, and so00:22:17
this gives it, it just doesn’t matter there and on the00:22:19
device they give some kind of completely00:22:22
wrong thing and we look at the people00:22:25
who read our Instagram and there00:22:27
of course I it’s terribly important what’s there, but00:22:30
almost for example in half and the Russians00:22:31
in Russia are not in Russia and the Ukrainians00:22:34
who read it’s not just what it says it00:22:37
gives, it also gives how the projection of the future will be,00:22:39
well, look, it’s really00:22:42
very important to me what’s here, that it works like that00:22:44
or but tell me, what question do Russians most often00:22:47
ask about leaving, how to00:22:50
leave, come to Russia, very many people,00:22:53
you know, this is important, very many people00:22:55
ask the00:22:57
question that they need to talk,00:23:00
just talk, and this of course raises,00:23:03
but these are 100 heavy feelings of acceptance,00:23:06
people just need to talk to a00:23:07
stranger who won’t judge him,00:23:11
so it seems to me that it’s very important to remember and00:23:16
how many people just need to00:23:18
talk so that you wouldn’t judge them00:23:20
because judgment is where you are now, where is00:23:22
it all? I think that 100 people are like this, up to the00:23:25
number now there are internal condemnations00:23:27
and what00:23:28
to grow more and outwardly the absolute size00:23:30
it seems to me is important00:23:33
very important to a friend of support maiden somewhere00:23:36
wherever you are I don’t know Moscow and00:23:39
St. Petersburg I don’t know Perm00:23:41
greatness or Berlin and that’s it or if you’re in a00:23:45
terribly tragic scrape which and the00:23:49
house is not at home00:23:51
they are at home as it were well, as if not at home and00:23:55
all the time in Chuvash, the essence is that’s why I don’t00:23:58
know and don’t want to offer anything,00:24:01
unfortunately, except for the feeling of00:24:03
elbows, support for Kiu, and we can00:24:05
offer, in general, about immigration,00:24:08
because the00:24:10
communities are so divided before the Russian one00:24:12
in each individual every00:24:15
single country in every single00:24:16
city has some kind of sensors, as I00:24:17
understand it, how in general some kind of plan00:24:20
can be developed for immigration,00:24:23
how to establish connections, how to communicate,00:24:25
because otherwise it will all be very00:24:26
dispersed and quite sadly,00:24:32
this is the congress about which to00:24:34
which all this was worked out, he00:24:35
basically lived in well, the motivation was good,00:24:37
somehow to gather everyone under one00:24:39
umbrella and something with a device, good,00:24:42
very bad, very bad, we00:24:44
are uniting for something, I don’t know what it is, they do00:24:46
n’t know where the leading thing is on somehow, as you can see, it’s00:24:48
very00:24:50
bad to unite, so you or I don’t know,00:24:52
it’s not interesting because the organization of the00:24:54
sword there is only priestly decorated with the essence that00:24:57
the name, well, it was made, the passports of a00:25:02
good Russian were strong, so00:25:04
I need to be connected, no, maybe they’re something- then00:25:07
I don’t really understand how to00:25:09
do it, I don’t know, I can give you00:25:10
an example, I have00:25:12
n’t seen a wonderful place in Riga,00:25:16
it’s called common ground, it was00:25:19
made by two girls,00:25:22
one Russian, the other Latvian, how they both seem to be00:25:27
from the river and they are on the territory of the port00:25:31
and to me a wonderful building for some purpose00:25:33
Tallinn station they do this00:25:35
you feed the center for the00:25:37
Ukrainians who come here00:25:40
because everyone seems so that the Ukrainians00:25:42
need to you announce the center of the Russians they are00:25:45
refugees why is this necessary yes absolutely00:25:47
wonderful a wonderful place00:25:49
that can just come00:25:51
talk to do something sit on the00:25:53
computer up to 8 apartments and it is very important not00:25:57
only for Ukrainians but also important00:25:59
for volunteers because that is, in00:26:01
principle, it is such a place for communication for making00:26:03
acquaintances for feeling that you are on to00:26:05
something a sword of some kind, it00:26:09
seems to me that these are some things that should00:26:11
work should work better than any00:26:13
congresses and I know just show them to00:26:16
all your friends, too, you don’t know, many00:26:19
glasses went too wonderland that someone00:26:21
gives gives some friend here and00:26:23
it’s clear that this thing is made for00:26:25
the Ukrainians and of course it was cool to see00:26:27
this not only in Riga and and probably that00:26:31
is, but Russia not but again I00:26:35
couldn’t judge such a thing you come of course00:26:37
that this is a migrant, that I’m a refugee00:26:39
person I’ll go somewhere to a bar I’ll say00:26:41
Russians bar to open something and it doesn’t seem like00:26:43
this admits that00:26:46
actually we left and became bessie warriors00:26:49
need to build something, it’s generally through00:26:51
this recognition that you have to go through in order for00:26:54
something to start appearing because00:26:57
I’m not in the corner you can have for me, this is00:26:58
productivity, don’t go, I live, here’s how00:27:01
to do everything, I’m the only one in some way I can00:27:04
say for you, some kind of association, I don’t00:27:06
know how many dozens of people there00:27:08
work for us,00:27:10
yes, they are united, their work is united, but for00:27:16
the rest, I don’t know, I don’t know how to00:27:20
do it I I’m not sure that supposedly there is00:27:22
some serious opportunity for00:27:24
immigrants to unite, thank you Ilya, a00:27:29
sad note,00:27:31
almost so that there are many reasons for00:27:34
joy, thank you very much, thank you Ilya,00:27:37
the dyer, the journalist was in touch with us,00:27:39
but the lion and I are leaving with this gurgle, it00:27:46
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В эфире Утреннего разворота с Лизой Лазерсон @lizalazerson, Айдаром Ахмадиевым и Львом Гулько журналист Илья Красильщик, объявленный в России в федеральный розыск. Говорим о том, как можно помочь россиянам, которые хотят эмигрировать, либо уже это сделали, а также тем, кто не может покинуть Россию. Поддержать Живой Гвоздь: https://pay.cloudtips.ru/p/7edd7c0e Подписывайтесь на Лизу Лазерсон в Телеграме: https://t.me/znachit_net Подписывайтесь на Айдара Ахмадиева в Телеграме: https://t.me/aidarakhmadiev97 🔔 Последние новости и анонсы программ с YouTube-канала «Живой гвоздь», а также контент от наших постоянных гостей и экспертов на официальном телеграм-канале: https://t.me/livegvozd Подписаться на Youtube-канал Дилетант: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuIE7-5QzeAR6EdZXwDRwuQ?sub_confirmation=1 📌 Живой гвоздь в аудиоформате: SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-524451485 Яндекс.Музыка: https://music.yandex.ru/album/22141653?dir=desc Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D0%B3%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B4%D1%8C/id1616175210 Google Подкасты: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjEwOTk2NzA5MDUvc291bmRzLnJzcw?sa=X&ved=0CAIQ4aUDahcKEwigxO3Eweb2AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQEQ Магазин "Дилетант": https://diletant.shop/
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