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hello, I strongly
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welcome you today as our guest, our
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long-awaited Nikolai example of the article of the
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mountains, and today today we will talk
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about the
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beginning of Nazi politics extermination
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to the Nazi genocide and somehow you know
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a few years ago I published a book a
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war of extermination, this is not what I
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called my work, this
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quote is direct from Adolf Hitler, this is exactly what
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he called the future war in the east
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at a meeting with his generals on March 30,
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1941, several years passed years during this
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time I continued to work on this
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topic, I collected a whole series of new very
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interesting materials, in addition, new
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but literature appeared, some
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sources were even published, for
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example, the diary of Rosenberg, the
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Minister of Eastern Territories, and for one
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or for Russian associates with
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comments by a wonderful historian from
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Munich, Igor Petrov I recommend
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this
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book to everyone, this book required revision and very soon, on the eve of the
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75th anniversary of the victory, the second edition will be published,
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revised and expanded and it will be
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thicker by about a third, and in
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addition, in the new edition
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some
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German archival documents
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that shed light will be published for the first time in Russian on
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preparation and planning for wars like
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wars of destruction on mine for the
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destruction of our state and our
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people, in the end, in addition to that, the
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publication of the war of destruction will be published in
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German, also before the anniversary of the victory,
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and the
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German-speaking reader will also be able to
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get acquainted with the Russian view of what was
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happening although I must say that
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in
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Germany, oddly enough,
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the history of the Nazi genocide
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in the east in the east for them is the east,
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but studied much better, the study generally
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began there and a
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sufficient number of works appeared there that
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comprehend this phenomenon, the
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deeply remarkable work of the peasants and
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Gerlach is really not German-speaking
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Swiss researcher his robot
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is called calculated deaths where he
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shows how the Germans plan how they
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calculated how many people would die will die
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in the eastern territories, yes there is the work of
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wonderful researchers such as
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Ali goes and
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the last work about the blockade of Leningrad
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York concealer it was translated into
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Russian I’m also very I recommend Christian
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straight who studied the mortality of
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prisoners of war in general Regina Mir hazir
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who wrote a monograph about
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rape on the eastern front and there,
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of course, terrible details are given,
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most of this work has
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not been translated into Russian and little
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is known, but the Germans don’t know our
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opinion, they don’t know our sources and So
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I think that the period of the war of extermination
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in the German language will somehow complement their
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ideas about how to search, how it was
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at least perceived in Russia, well,
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in particular, there is such a plot that the
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role model and cohesion of the
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population in the east for Heinrich
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Himmler’s chapters with there was the story of the
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medieval European monarchs
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Henry the Birdcatcher and Henry the Lion, who,
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as it was believed and as described in
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Nazi historiography, carried out an
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onslaught to the east, exterminated the Slavs in the
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central group, that before glory they
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lived much with their paws,
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so at the suggestion of Himmler, German
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historiography, journalism, journalism
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glorified these monarchs in every possible way
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glorified the very idea of ​​​​the advance of the Germans
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to the east in the Soviet Union, behind this
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you promise it is their mission to here and
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yes this is their mission to populate Europe with
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God there yes yes it seems 5 absolutely
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right but this
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media company watched this media very
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closely in the Soviet union,
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all this was not hidden from our politicians and
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relevant specialists,
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and there was a publication in the
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central press, in particular, a large
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about a strange article with a review of this
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historiography, which came from the pen and
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Denis Viktorovich Tarle of
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our famous historian Napoleon
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Veda, who fell, received everything for an assignment
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from above this is to study and review for a
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wide range of violence, whether back in
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1939, the conclusion of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact for a long time, the
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conclusion is that the goal
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of this campaign is very simple, it is to
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prepare the German
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people for the conquest of the eastern
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territories they need and on the territory they
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not the population who find this and lives,
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that is, these genocide long-range plans,
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they were guessed and were not a secret for the
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Soviet leadership already in 39,
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but one of the stories that I would like to
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touch on today is the story about how the
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thoughts of the Nazi leaders actually moved
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and how they In the end, they decided
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how they came to start this
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transition from plans of destruction to the
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direct extermination of people. There is a
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thesis that Hitler is dragging
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Stalin’s ill-wishers and
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Stalin’s opponents. Anti-Stalinists often flaunt
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this phrase that Hitler, even though he killed
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strangers and Stalin killed his own, is of course
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big here the question is who is friend or foe to whom,
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we apparently mean
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that Stalin destroyed the inhabitants of Germany,
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all those people
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who use this phrase, they apparently do
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not consider German Jews their own either,
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in addition to German Jews, Stalin
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destroyed another category of German
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citizens and in fact with it was with them that
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he began let the first mass
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extermination stop 90 hectares
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Hitler-Hitler you said a little fire
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or let it run wild we will cut it out tank
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village attic he identified studios these are
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not people 1 who should be in Germany
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live he started laughing no he started exterminating
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exterminating he the extermination of Jews began down
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from the Jews, he began a policy
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of discrimination, the Nuremberg laws were issued
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which infringed on the rights of Jews and
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forced them to migrate, but still the
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extermination did not begin with the Jews,
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the extermination began with another category of
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German citizens, they were mentally ill and
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terminally ill, and this is very
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interesting and a very interesting and
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little-known step to large-scale
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genocide and subsequently deployed already
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deployed already in the east, we will now
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show it
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very much there were two for motivation two motives
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that led to this extermination one
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of these motives lies on the surface
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this is the racial theory of the Nazis the
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idea the idea was that that these
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people are unfit human
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material and, accordingly, they
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should not have offspring and
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therefore they need to be exterminated, but in general it was not necessary to
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exterminate their own, it
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was enough to simply deprive them of the very
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opportunity to have offspring, and in Germany a
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law was initially passed that
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prescribed such patients sick
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mentally ill with serious
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mental illnesses sterilized
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not only could they not see everything and even
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if they were cured so as not to spoil it does not
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have scoin does not have any German
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logical blood as for the terminally
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ill to those with serious illnesses
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then and there there was no talk of any offspring
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and therefore, in
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fact, again, this motive does
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not work here at all, so what is the
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motive, the
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motive is very simple, this motive is the
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distribution of resources, the
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fact is that the
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German leadership and the
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German people in general had a very serious
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complex that arose as a result of the
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end of the First World War as
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a result you results, yes, is that
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Germany could not withstand the stress of the First
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World War from 1916, it experienced a
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serious lack of food,
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and which actually threatened
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every month to outgrow a large-scale
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rumble; let me remind you that in the
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winter of 1916,
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Germany was called trousers in the winter
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because already there was no bread I love q these
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were serious problems that of course
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contributed to disloyalty, the growth of
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disloyalty of the population and
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ultimately Germany broke down
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precisely economically, which is why the
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Nazi leadership,
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plotting revenge,
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was thinking every minute about how to make sure that
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the Germans did not starve
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somehow build such a system
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so that the Germans do not gnaw, so that everyone
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has enough of everything, and in fact, the
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Nazi leadership in the second
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half of the 30s, well, sharply increased,
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largely due to foreign loans,
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of course, the note and the robbery of Jews, too,
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but it sharply increased the diet
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of the average German, the German began
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to live better not to have began to eat more and
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very quickly got used to it, as in all
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the films,
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let’s turn around, they said that for luck,
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white bread and sausage
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very often was for them it
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was very important for them there are famous phrases of
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Hermann Goering who describes this
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policy and it sounds like this if someone
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will starve, it’s not a German, that’s what
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the Nazis were striving for,
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but it’s clear that
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if these rations and those that Hitler sharply
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increases begin to fall, then the
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population’s loyalty to the Nazi
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regime will also begin to decrease. The Nazis, in
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principle, but that’s the only thing we held on to
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for this they were forgiven, I won’t say where the
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promised happiness was, but for this they were forgiven for the
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elimination of the multi-party system, for this they were not
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forgiven for the repressions against the communists, I
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ask the communist party was
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quite popular in Germany, it
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regularly entered the Reichstag,
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it cannot be said that it was not
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popular, but the party itself was
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defeated and the electorate was lured away by
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this, that there is no need to fight for some kind of
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communist chimera, we
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will give this butter, bread and sausage,
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but it is clear that this robbery was achieved with
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loans, and I ca
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n’t continue this for long, and for
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this it was precisely necessary new
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conquests and a new robbery,
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and
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when a
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new war loomed on the horizon,
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the final Hitler signed the Weiss plan
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in April 1939, that is, starting in
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April of thirty-nine, Hitler was
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sure that there was a high degree of
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probability that he would start a war against
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Poland,
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otherwise he was of course concerned issues of
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rations, issue of nutrition, and in the summer of
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1939, the
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development of a
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company began, which later became known
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as the T4 program, the T4 program,
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the goal of which was the extermination of the so
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-called useless for elimination and
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spiritually useless eaters, that is, people
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who, roughly speaking, ate, consumed
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resources, but the state has
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nothing, let’s they couldn’t give
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why the name T4 was named after the
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headquarters of Tiergarten units 1 and 4 in
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Berlin, and
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this program was developed by the
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Fuhrer’s own office, which
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tells us that
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Hitler’s extra interests in this in this program and
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that the impulses for its implementation came
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from the
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main leader of the
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racial policy of the Reich, Heinrich Himmler,
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who headed the Rex Commissariat for
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Strengthening German Statehood
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as a name, that is, all racial
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issues were the same vision of Himmler, and
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since
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it was also a racial issue, clean out
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all the conveniently unfit ones, that’s it
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Himmler, naturally, was also aware of
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this program and many members of the EU
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played a big role in it and
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proved themselves in the future, they made a
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great career already in the east during the
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war, destroy,
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I read the reports on T4 and they certainly
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amaze, that is, they amaze in the first
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place the extreme pedantry and
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cynicism with which Nazi officials
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approached this issue, they report to
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Hitler in the Fuhrer's office
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how much bread,
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butter,
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jam was saved for the Reich as
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a result of the fact that
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these people were killed, that
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is, they take credit for it,
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they perceive it as a benefit and
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looking ahead, I will say that
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not only
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representatives of the law enforcement agencies took part in this program, but
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doctors took the most active part in it; in Nazi society, a
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strong, influential
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medical lobby was formed, which not only
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shared these Nazi ideas, but which
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moved them forward and in part, even here it is
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difficult to sometimes determine who was the
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customer; the
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impulses moved in parallel, that is,
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sometimes the customer was the political
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leadership and sometimes the medical lobby,
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that is, these doctors, they were in this way
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you consolidated what they thought was an
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advanced medical idea that
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the world needed to be cleared of this, these here they were
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born in Moscow
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no, no, no, no, no, no,
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they hid the program itself,
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they hid the program itself, but the ideas that
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such people, the ideas that we need to
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get rid of such people, they first appeared on
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public planes, they published
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articles in medical journals it must have
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all been a
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discussion in them, they were talking and it was all
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presented as a kind of mercy, even
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then the term euthanasia appeared
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and all this was presented as a kind of
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mercy for people, yes, yes, we
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save you from suffering, but it’s clear that
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you are Nazis when it comes to that
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there was a completely different motivation, they
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tried to engage in social engineering, they did
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not try to create a society in which there
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would be no such people, it was absolutely a
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chimera, because very soon
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it became clear that nature itself regulates
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this process and there is always a
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certain percentage of mentally ill people in society and the
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sick cannot cure the disease, which
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means but nevertheless, look how
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pedantically, how subtly,
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how detailed the body was, the
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process itself was organized, and so first
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the office asked all
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public and private clinics for a report on
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what kind of patients there were, if
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there were terminally ill and
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disabled people, which is very important, in what
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quantity who exactly according to or
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food consumption according to them, this means that further these
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lists were at the disposal of a
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special medical commission and 42
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very authoritative doctors, the doctors’ task
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was that they had to
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study everyone’s file and
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put either a red plus sign or a
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blue minus a red plus sign next to their names meant that
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this person is sentenced to liquidation,
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minus this means saving everyone’s life and
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in fact the future of the person will be
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with the residents, it was not decided to do basic
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calculations of the pros and cons of all preparing
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its members, but you were there before the majority
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in Christ is a Christian, then
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this examination was sent to the leaders of the
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t4 program
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by them There were Hitler's personal doctors Karl Brand, a
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physician and
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functionary Philip Buller, but did
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not coordinate
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the results and then the
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actual extermination began,
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6 centers of forced euthanasia were prepared, they
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appeared in the documentation as
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medical centers, which means in the decanter aka
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Burn Burg Brandenburg Garth Heim zone
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Steiner and the Year of the Sea, here are 6 centers
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used now we will get to the salt
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we will add interesting this method is well
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known but our viewers
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associate it primarily with the death camps
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from Auschwitz Mes Maidan and com sighed and it’s
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unlikely, well, very few people know that
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this method was first tested not in
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the east, not in these extermination camps, it
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was tested in respectable
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medical institutions on the territory
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of their own and this is a gas chamber this is a
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gas chamber that was
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disguised as a shower room where we brought those
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sentenced to death,
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we brought trousers under the
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pretext of yes, under the pretext of washing, under the
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pretext of a shower, we
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closed them there from Vinci Vali
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valve and
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accordingly killed by suffocation, that
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is, the first mass murders of
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people by gassing did not occur in
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Auschwitz, they occurred in Germany
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specifically in the cute, charming,
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cute baroque graphene castle,
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which previously belonged to the Duke of you
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wear there berg, this happened in
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January 1940, the first batch of Malik
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was destroyed after documents
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from the Fuhrer's office were sent to
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specific
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medical institutions for immediate tasks, medical
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institutions prepared these patients for
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transportation, a bus came for them,
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they were loaded, they were transported to one of the
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euthanasia centers, they were quietly killed there,
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and to answer your question, of course
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this happened the secret here is that the doctors
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acted in alliance with representatives of
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law enforcement agencies with
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criminal police officers whose names we
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will name a little later, who
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were also members of the EU and their task was
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to correctly forge documents
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because naturally the relatives were not
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told that their relatives were killed and we
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said that they died of natural
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causes, for example, there was a stroke, a heart
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attack or something else,
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these fictitious imaginary reasons
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were written into official documents and they were
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helped out by relatives by a second
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criminal police officer, they monitored the
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staff so that there was no leakage of
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information,
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of course there was a leakage of information
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anyway because this the number of
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sudden deaths
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I can’t remain is not a difficult question, but
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if it was put like that on the flow, sorry, the
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body of the mouth had to be put somewhere,
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what did they do next with the body later,
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or a relative we buried, the official one did
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n’t catch it here, or a round one
00:22:00
was required, really, absolutely for this
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yes, they just called the relatives of his
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relatives and you say the laptop,
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unfortunately, entered, it was felt that they did not kill, and the
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funeral expenses for those who died
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from it did not cure the disease to say, but it’s
00:22:13
just that they were earlier in the times, yes, and
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what’s more, there were whole frauds
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associated with this because that in private
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clinics the maintenance of
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patients was paid for by relatives and there were
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some scammers who took
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part in the T4 program who
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deliberately delayed the notification
00:22:34
that a person had died and continued to take
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money for their maintenance, these are such cases,
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also in the known 160 cohabitations, many
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very school police officers were with rays like
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this do some pensioner dies,
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this is not announced, the pension goes to
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relatives because the relatives
00:22:53
have a general power of attorney
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to receive a pension and everyone lives happily, and
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Klim Grigorievich,
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and under this tune you could solve your
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financial issues, a friend of someone, too,
00:23:05
for money, I will give that this is not excluded although
00:23:08
I don’t know of such cases, I haven’t
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come across them, but it’s possible that
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the environment is in troubled waters, you can do your own business alone,
00:23:14
and here, so to speak, the ordnung failed
00:23:18
because someone managed to make a fortune on Twitch
00:23:21
before accepting
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money for the maintenance of patients who
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no longer existed but nevertheless,
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the information that something
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so terrible was happening was leaked, it was
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leaked and public indignation arose, there
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was indignation in the religious environment and
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even in the Nazi
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party environment, so on
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August 24, 1941, when the war was already going on
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on the eastern front, when already there was an
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invasion of the Soviet Union, Hitler
00:23:58
officially stopped this program,
00:24:01
but there are several nuances here,
00:24:03
firstly, by the time he did not
00:24:05
stop, according to the documents, it was
00:24:08
established that I was killed for a second,
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70 thousand people of
00:24:12
Germany itself,
00:24:14
this is what they want to the sea, the
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German approach did yes yes the German
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approach is absolutely
00:24:22
businesslike, pedantic,
00:24:26
meticulous, I would say,
00:24:29
secondly, Hitler gave the order to stop the
00:24:33
program at 4, but it did not
00:24:36
stop,
00:24:37
here in the researchers and there are
00:24:40
different views on why this happened,
00:24:43
one version is that
00:24:47
Hitler’s order was given for show and the real
00:24:51
order required effort
00:24:53
duration, that is, it was, and so, in
00:24:56
principle, this operation was a secret, but it
00:24:59
was decided to keep it even more
00:25:02
secret, which meant stopping any
00:25:05
documentation, even classified as secret,
00:25:06
this time and the second was to no longer
00:25:11
use the gas chamber, that is, they
00:25:13
began to kill patients using other methods in the
00:25:15
first turn with drugs we inject
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scopolamine lumina
00:25:20
some other drugs that
00:25:22
contributed to their death caused death
00:25:25
and in some cases simply
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starve, that is, do not feed
00:25:30
everyone publicly scolded but this is one of
00:25:34
this I the story from the 2nd version of the investigators
00:25:36
says that Hitler, in principle, had no time for
00:25:39
this that is, he
00:25:41
stopped being interested in the events of the
00:25:45
T4 program because other
00:25:47
events began that ate up all the attention
00:25:50
possible so new and the impulses
00:25:53
came from the law enforcement agencies, in particular
00:25:56
from Heinrich Himmler, if you Himmler was an
00:26:00
ardent supporter of genocide, one of the
00:26:03
main supporters in the cinema of the goal, it is possible
00:26:05
that this and so, finally, there is a third
00:26:08
version, which also has its
00:26:10
supporters and is also generally
00:26:12
justifiably documented, which says
00:26:14
that the very medical lobby that
00:26:17
I was talking about continued the murder
00:26:20
because these doctors believed that the
00:26:24
destruction of unfit human
00:26:26
material is a benefit for Germany there is no need
00:26:28
to stop once having received sanction
00:26:31
from the leadership, they were ready to kill
00:26:34
even without sanction, and this happened,
00:26:38
this happened, these facts were revealed in the
00:26:41
after-military trials
00:26:44
about which, that is, we know the
00:26:46
Nuremberg trials in general against
00:26:48
Nazi criminals, there were many
00:26:49
German trials, which was the main thing and Then
00:26:51
there were satellite processes, there were separate
00:26:53
medical processes, and these
00:26:57
subsequent murders were revealed, of course they
00:27:01
were revealed, but due to the fact that they were not
00:27:03
documented, we do not know exactly what the
00:27:06
scale of this extermination was,
00:27:08
modern German historiography
00:27:11
calls the total figure 200,250 thousand
00:27:14
exterminated, but in the literature there are also
00:27:17
higher figures that rise
00:27:21
there up to a million people, well, I
00:27:24
repeat, the documentation is not there,
00:27:27
it’s difficult to judge here, but it’s simply clear that this is
00:27:30
significantly higher than 7 those 70,000 that
00:27:32
were exterminated, 40 out of 70,000 should
00:27:35
sound terrible, yes in the forty-forty-
00:27:37
first, besides the experience of this program
00:27:39
of course it was specifically for the mentally ill
00:27:43
and terminally ill, of course it was
00:27:44
immediately extended to the new eastern
00:27:47
territory for prisoners of war, this is a
00:27:49
separate category, a
00:27:50
separate program was adopted which mentally
00:27:54
ill prisoners of war were immediately taken out to
00:27:56
these centers and continued to exterminate
00:27:59
this concerns captivity of war, this happened
00:28:03
mainly in forty-one, and
00:28:06
besides,
00:28:09
all the mentally ill
00:28:12
on the territory of the Soviet Union were
00:28:14
destroyed in different ways, that is, it was
00:28:17
one of the categories that were subject to unconditional
00:28:20
destruction, and
00:28:23
well, here we are in St. Petersburg, if
00:28:25
anyone doesn’t know, for example, we had a magician who
00:28:28
was occupied, upset there was
00:28:31
psychiatric hospital to me Kashchenko all the
00:28:33
patients who were shot
00:28:36
one of the well-known and terrible cases
00:28:39
of genocide that occurred here
00:28:41
nearby yes but such cases
00:28:44
occurred throughout the occupied
00:28:45
territory of the Soviet Union and in Kiev at
00:28:49
Babi Yar
00:28:51
patients of the local psychiatric
00:28:54
clinic and in many others were shot regions there is
00:28:57
the famous Soviet film Fate where they
00:28:59
show
00:29:01
and
00:29:02
then remember the collapse, they arrived with
00:29:05
blows and the
00:29:06
doctor treating him kept egregious cases for nothing for documents,
00:29:11
for example, in
00:29:13
one psychiatric clinic they did not just
00:29:15
kill, and therefore for entertainment, and
00:29:17
staged a hunt for patients in a
00:29:20
psychiatric clinic, as if that means
00:29:23
on horseback with him they jumped up from the sheep and
00:29:26
hunted people, well, it’s clear that it’s
00:29:33
not clear who is sick here, in
00:29:35
fact, the psychosis of Odessa is
00:29:38
also in his own world, you
00:29:41
understand from the name for what it is clear that
00:29:44
in those people who organized that, in
00:29:47
fact, there was little humanity,
00:29:49
but here this experience of the T4 program
00:29:53
should in no way be underestimated
00:29:55
because it was the first step to large-
00:29:59
scale extermination of
00:30:01
people in the east in the first place, this is the first
00:30:05
experience of
00:30:06
the logic according to which people can be
00:30:09
exterminated by wasting resources, I
00:30:11
literally calculate the calories that
00:30:14
will be transferred from the dead to the living
00:30:19
. the Germans, yes, because it was precisely this
00:30:22
logic that formed the basis of the plan for genocide in the
00:30:25
eastern territories, the plan for famine, I already
00:30:30
in the cycle that preceded my book, the
00:30:32
war of annihilation, told
00:30:34
Bulatov’s plan for famine, but now
00:30:37
I’ll repeat myself a little, the fact is that, unfortunately, in
00:30:40
Russian it is still For now there is not a single
00:30:43
scientific publication about this plan and the
00:30:46
first publication, but I hope that there is
00:30:49
one of the first before
00:30:51
I am now preparing for the journal history,
00:30:54
which ordered me such material, I
00:30:57
will try to systematize the networks of
00:30:59
knowledge that we have at the moment,
00:31:01
unfortunately, but there for various reasons, our
00:31:06
idea of ​​the war on the
00:31:09
territory of the USSR
00:31:12
is not final at all, by chance at
00:31:15
the state level, it is not
00:31:17
customary for us to call what
00:31:20
happened here genocide, that is,
00:31:22
unconditional genocide is called the Holocaust,
00:31:26
who their extermination of Jews is called genocide, they
00:31:28
call the extermination of Gypsies the legs of the
00:31:30
national plans of the Nazi
00:31:31
leadership, they were broader and in they
00:31:34
included not only Jews and gypsies,
00:31:36
but actually all other
00:31:38
Soviet people of all nationalities were not included, and
00:31:40
radical Islamism was also in the
00:31:42
arsenal of the Nazis’ ideological weapons,
00:31:45
and it was precisely in terms of hunger that intertwined
00:31:49
because the motivations were racial because the Jews
00:31:52
were played and the Slavs were also considered an inferior
00:31:54
race and this meant that their life was
00:31:56
worth nothing and the
00:31:59
second was a resource, and because one of the
00:32:03
main goals of the invasion of the Soviet Union
00:32:05
was, of course, the seizure of resources and the
00:32:08
provision of those high rations for the Germans
00:32:11
that Hitler provided them with and Hitler
00:32:15
began to formulate this plan in the spring of
00:32:18
1941. such an economic headquarters in
00:32:21
Oldenburg would later be renamed into an
00:32:23
economic headquarters so that the east would be supervised by
00:32:26
Goering and
00:32:28
there, in the depths of this headquarters,
00:32:31
a memorandum was born, the meaning of which was
00:32:34
that Germany
00:32:36
had entered the war and it would be able to continue
00:32:40
the war also successfully without reducing the rations
00:32:43
of the Germans only in that if it
00:32:46
takes possession of the
00:32:48
resources of the Soviet Union and is able to
00:32:52
supply at its expense the inhabitants of Germany and the
00:32:55
Wehrmacht itself will have to
00:32:58
feed itself on farms at the expense of the resources of the Soviet
00:33:00
Union at the expense of the resources of the Soviet Union the
00:33:02
developers of this plan divided the entire
00:33:04
territory of the USSR
00:33:06
consuming regions and
00:33:09
regions donors donors food
00:33:13
and here is their plan was to
00:33:16
quickly capture the donor regions, this is
00:33:17
Ukraine, the south of Russia, all the black soil, and
00:33:21
then cut off food supplies
00:33:23
from the donor regions, the consuming regions
00:33:26
are northern and central Russia and the
00:33:28
large industrial centers of
00:33:30
Leningrad and Moscow, that is, I once again
00:33:34
focused on this
00:33:36
idea of ​​​​dooming Leningrad to famine, it
00:33:39
did not appear as a result of some
00:33:41
military coincidence in
00:33:43
August-September
00:33:45
1941, it appeared back in May
00:33:48
1941, although scientists argue on this topic, but
00:33:51
personally it seems to me that
00:33:54
this follows quite obviously from
00:33:57
German planning documents, that is,
00:33:59
look in the program t4 there was a coincidence of
00:34:01
racial and
00:34:03
say resource motivation, yes, that is,
00:34:06
we destroy unsuitable human
00:34:08
material and we save these in resources for
00:34:10
us, and here the same thing we exterminate
00:34:13
unfit human color to unfit
00:34:15
from a medical point of view, right
00:34:17
away, we immediately exterminate the lower race and
00:34:20
redistribute resources in favor of the right
00:34:22
people in favor of good people in favor of
00:34:25
those who need to be supported there is no benefit and the
00:34:27
German army is this motivation it is
00:34:31
this experience that was first applied in the
00:34:33
T4 program this time it was
00:34:35
extended over a vast territory to the
00:34:36
huge masses of people of the Soviet Union
00:34:39
it was the first moment that, too, the Germans,
00:34:42
pedantically, everything was prescribed in advance on
00:34:45
how to destroy people on the left, the field
00:34:48
and the harmful thing, bomb, including by
00:34:52
starvation, before this was the main method
00:34:55
because, again, it is economical because
00:34:57
bullets and shells cost money
00:35:00
and hunger kills for free,
00:35:02
just like that this is one important thing that
00:35:06
we need to understand when we talk about
00:35:08
someone 4 the second important thing is that
00:35:10
it was the
00:35:11
T4 program that prepared
00:35:19
very many, but almost all of the
00:35:22
top leaders who were involved in this 4
00:35:25
subsequently found themselves in politics as personnel for the war of destruction
00:35:28
destruction in the east
00:35:32
let's move on to a specific character
00:35:35
while I was selecting we didn't go let's
00:35:39
look at specific characters before but
00:35:42
it's obvious that I already said that vt4
00:35:46
was medical there was medical
00:35:48
personnel who were ready to kill and
00:35:50
shared these ideas
00:35:52
he was selected apparently there was a brane pocket there and
00:35:56
personnel who was selected from among the
00:35:58
police officers he was selected along the
00:36:01
line with this was all deserved by the
00:36:04
true Aryans from among the
00:36:06
SS men, well, a bright character is
00:36:09
Nikki Gruppenführer with Arthur Meda this is a
00:36:14
very bright mockery of fate because at the
00:36:17
moment when he was attracted to the
00:36:19
program then 4 and he stood at the origins of
00:36:22
one of the most monstrous crimes
00:36:24
in the history of mankind, Arthur for a
00:36:27
second held the post of head of the
00:36:29
German criminal police and the
00:36:32
attention of the director of Interpol, that is, he
00:36:37
was the world's main crime fighter,
00:36:42
the moment it was precisely this world's main crime
00:36:46
fighter, Boris, who came up with crime, or in
00:36:49
any case, with all my heart he advocated using the
00:36:55
gas blow idea to suffocate everyone with gases to exterminate masses of people, and
00:36:59
this creative idea was subsequently
00:37:02
used. We understand to what
00:37:04
extent
00:37:06
Himmler liked this businesslike nature
00:37:08
and
00:37:10
gives them the lire dal in the forty-first year of the
00:37:13
arthro sky very an important special
00:37:16
task, he appointed him as the leader of the
00:37:20
Ayzat group b,
00:37:22
perhaps people don’t know our viewers don’t
00:37:26
know what Alsace is a group from a group
00:37:28
is a special group made up of
00:37:31
members with which followed in the rear of the
00:37:34
Wehrmacht, the radio operator in the rear of the Wehrmacht
00:37:36
followed him and
00:37:38
defended the territory from elements that were undesirable in a
00:37:41
racial and political sense, in
00:37:44
other words, it was precisely from the group that they
00:37:48
exterminated or, in any case,
00:37:50
supervised the extermination of Jews,
00:37:54
communists, underground workers and
00:37:58
the sick, and that is, this purge in a
00:38:02
racial political sense,
00:38:04
it was true that it was
00:38:07
very quickly discovered that
00:38:10
these mass exterminations of
00:38:13
Amos’ extermination were not different methods,
00:38:15
including executions, were carried out
00:38:18
initially, they do not have a very good
00:38:21
effect on the psyche of the
00:38:24
members of the c and this is what the Germans
00:38:27
experienced, so the soldiers are why
00:38:31
Heinrich Heinrich Himmler himself
00:38:33
flew to the occupied territory to
00:38:35
see how all this was happening in
00:38:37
Belarus just flew in this
00:38:39
happened already in the summer of forty the first year
00:38:42
he was at a demonstration shooting of Jews
00:38:44
in the presence of water and
00:38:48
judging by the whole world it didn’t feel very good
00:38:50
well 2 before the program she said that he
00:38:52
arrived, look, he already took something
00:38:55
something she didn’t like, that is, he was a
00:38:57
network, he was with all his heart for the destruction, but
00:38:59
how it happened, I didn’t
00:39:02
like it, and then I
00:39:05
returned to my daughter’s proposal. There were
00:39:08
two methods of how to deal with this. The first
00:39:10
method was to simply
00:39:13
transfer the executions directly to
00:39:14
representatives of also lower races,
00:39:17
but for example, Ukrainian nationalists,
00:39:19
so as not to spoil our psyche
00:39:22
we'll give it to the Aryan guys to the Banderaites, or
00:39:25
some Baltic Nazis,
00:39:28
they were also included, everything was formally
00:39:31
involved, but this is even a
00:39:33
worldly film, although by the way, the zone that they
00:39:35
assign emission to the houses of the mermaid lamps
00:39:39
themselves, the cars were kept away from them, like, what did
00:39:41
this have, this had again, a
00:39:43
pragmatic motivation to take care of our own and
00:39:47
shift all the dirty work to them on roller skates
00:39:50
and yes, it seems like
00:39:52
all these Ukrainian
00:39:55
Baltic comrades who are our
00:39:57
muffler comrades Nazis said that you are the
00:39:59
same as we are also waiting for all the attention,
00:40:03
but the Germans tried to get rid of themselves and the
00:40:07
second method was that who
00:40:09
suggested to the sky, that is, to use the gas of
00:40:11
the machine in the gas chamber, and this method
00:40:15
was also actively introduced and
00:40:17
used in the widest possible way,
00:40:20
but then he takes from her another very
00:40:22
interesting character,
00:40:24
he took an active part in the
00:40:27
Stauffenberg conspiracy, the so-called conspiracy of
00:40:30
the generals, before clarifications in the conspiracy of the
00:40:32
officers and generals before the
00:40:34
officers plotted against Hitler in 1944, and
00:40:38
there is an opinion that Hitler was
00:40:41
a villain and the
00:40:45
people around him realized that the hectare was a maniac, he was
00:40:50
leading the country in the wrong direction and decided to carry out a
00:40:53
coup d'etat heroically, but
00:40:56
they didn’t succeed and with bloody money
00:40:58
Hitler killed them before in fact, it’s
00:41:02
very good that if you have the opportunity
00:41:04
to tell me about this, we will write about this
00:41:06
program. In my opinion, interpret
00:41:09
this act as something heroic. In
00:41:13
no case should
00:41:15
the conspiracy against Hitler of
00:41:18
1944 be an attempt to absolve ourselves of
00:41:22
responsibility for crimes, we see
00:41:25
that that's who its participants are, yes Arthur
00:41:28
Medy, my God, yes, this is one of the main
00:41:30
Nazi criminals, or is it Eduard
00:41:32
Warmer, the quartermaster general of the non-
00:41:35
Wehrmacht, who was one of the most
00:41:37
prominent implementers of the gold plan, the man
00:41:40
responsible for the destruction of millions of
00:41:43
Soviet prisoners of war and for the siege of
00:41:45
Leningrad for just saying
00:41:47
Unfortunately, we don’t yet know
00:41:50
how it all happened, but the Edward
00:41:53
factor is one of the main culprits
00:41:55
of genocide, one of the main war
00:41:57
criminals, these people
00:41:59
entered into a conspiracy against Hitler, why
00:42:02
why I’ll add the simple reason that Hitler
00:42:05
sought to
00:42:06
wage the war to a victorious end and did not
00:42:10
agree to negotiate with Western
00:42:12
opponents, and the only chance for
00:42:15
everyone was to understand Germany lost the war,
00:42:16
she will lose the war, if it
00:42:18
loses the war and the Red Army comes here,
00:42:20
then it will be very bad for everyone, everyone
00:42:23
will get what they deserve, the only chance in
00:42:26
these conditions, so to speak, to come to an
00:42:28
agreement with England and America make peace
00:42:31
with them,
00:42:33
throw all their strength in order to at least
00:42:36
somehow, at least somewhere,
00:42:38
stop the Soviets from Hitler, let’s not
00:42:41
want Hitler to the last believed that
00:42:43
Germany would rise up, this amount later there would be no standard,
00:42:46
there was an excuse, we are
00:42:49
military people, we were just carrying out the Wehrmacht, this is still the case
00:42:52
Since then, this is the same one that
00:42:54
is forming mine further and still in
00:42:57
Germany, so these people they wanted to
00:42:59
kill hyper and only in order
00:43:02
not to be held responsible for their
00:43:04
actions, and so these are exactly the same, the
00:43:06
final hyper is the main villain, but these are
00:43:09
nowhere These little demons are
00:43:12
completely absolute and not even small
00:43:14
bastards with their hands covered in blood up to their elbows
00:43:17
and they just tried to jump
00:43:20
off, let's be honest, they
00:43:23
tried to jump off, so Arthur Leads,
00:43:25
this is the main thing to say, a character who
00:43:27
hid for a long time on here he was caught and
00:43:30
executed by order of Hitler of course, as a
00:43:33
conspirator, as a traitor, but
00:43:36
in the
00:43:38
thirty-ninth and
00:43:40
forty-third year, Arthur Nebe is the
00:43:44
brightest
00:43:46
executor of Hitler’s
00:43:49
plan, the brightest, this is exactly the same
00:43:51
war criminal, exactly the same
00:43:53
scoundrel executioner as Hitler’s own
00:43:56
difference, well, I’ll mark the scale, and the same
00:44:00
thing with
00:44:01
[applause ]
00:44:03
another prominent representative of the SES from those
00:44:08
who relay implemented the program then 4 this is a
00:44:11
criminal police officer Christian
00:44:13
Ledyard made a brilliant career
00:44:16
in his
00:44:18
jurisdiction was and the actual
00:44:21
destruction was controlled by the
00:44:23
law enforcement agencies and the fabrication of documents,
00:44:25
but also, apparently, control here is the
00:44:27
staff
00:44:29
1 reprisal with his participation took place in
00:44:32
January 1940 in Brandenburg and so
00:44:34
there he showed himself so well and
00:44:36
efficiently that he was soon
00:44:37
appointed inspector of all centers of what was
00:44:40
called forced euthanasia
00:44:41
in the Reich, well, there he also showed
00:44:45
himself well because the destruction It was going
00:44:47
on, it was put on stream,
00:44:51
and
00:44:53
practically not only Vert, but a very
00:44:57
large group of
00:44:58
implementers of the T4 program, immediately with the
00:45:02
beginning of the war in the east, they were aimed at a
00:45:05
new program called the
00:45:07
Reinhard program,
00:45:10
this program was named after
00:45:12
Reinhard Heydrich, a
00:45:14
famous Nazi figure, then the
00:45:16
SS
00:45:19
leaders of the protectorate Bohemia morality
00:45:21
I, who was killed as a result of a
00:45:23
special operation by the British, the
00:45:25
British and the Czech underground, and so in
00:45:29
his honor in the forty-second year,
00:45:31
this program was named in honor of him, what kind of
00:45:34
program was it with such a beautiful
00:45:36
name, it was a program for the extermination of
00:45:38
Jews and Gypsies on the territory of the general
00:45:41
the governorship, that is, of
00:45:42
occupied Poland, specifically for
00:45:45
the implementation of this program, the program was
00:45:47
built on three ends, a coward, he is their camp
00:45:49
and, more
00:45:52
precisely, not the concentration camps of death, the
00:45:54
dodge concentration camp is a little
00:45:56
different, and so the
00:45:58
peasants and the vert are immediately appointed by
00:46:01
the team to the commandant of the camp budget where
00:46:06
he energetically proceeds to extermination of
00:46:08
Jews and
00:46:10
since he does it very well,
00:46:15
soon you will be taken into account by the
00:46:16
inspector of all death camps, in the
00:46:19
year forty-three he is transferred to
00:46:20
Trieste because that means to a more
00:46:23
important direction - the
00:46:26
fight against the Italian and Yugoslav and
00:46:30
partisans where in the forty-four year of
00:46:32
his partisan bullet and found it, well,
00:46:34
it is believed that the partisan Katya has AIDS from the
00:46:37
version that one of his own
00:46:38
shot him, but in general, according to the official
00:46:40
version, one of the partisans, this is the
00:46:43
fate, also from T4, to the post of chief
00:46:47
inspector of death camps, a
00:46:50
fairy tale of expenses the demon I'm going to die career
00:46:53
now let's give of I'll find it now means I'll
00:46:55
get there
00:46:56
I'll now tell you a very scary step
00:46:58
really like which is beyond
00:47:00
human understanding
00:47:02
but it must be told so that people know
00:47:05
what happened in these programs from the
00:47:08
cycle of war of extermination I tell many such
00:47:10
stories, unfortunately
00:47:12
it’s impossible keeping them silent means
00:47:15
[music]
00:47:19
the only one, well, I already said that
00:47:22
quite a lot of doctors shared this
00:47:24
Nazi ideology, even ordered it,
00:47:27
but there was one
00:47:29
exceptional case - a psychiatrist
00:47:32
who not only worked in the
00:47:35
death camp, but this is a psychiatrist who
00:47:38
headed the death camp.
00:47:43
doctor im frith cable
00:47:47
which is included in a4 was the head of the
00:47:51
medical unit,
00:47:53
the head of the
00:47:55
medical department who was
00:47:57
engaged in
00:47:59
eliminating pain in Brandenburg, he
00:48:02
worked with the peasants in a vert and when they were
00:48:05
also transferred in front of him, he did it
00:48:07
very well and, as
00:48:10
one of his assistants later said at the trial,
00:48:15
doctor henry sounds
00:48:19
chief he worked as if he wanted to strangle the
00:48:23
Lord God and the whole world, that is, eberle
00:48:26
lyrical that there the kite was
00:48:29
unscrewed by an assistant, he unscrewed it personally, he handed
00:48:31
the valve, it apparently gave them some kind of
00:48:34
pleasure, and the soup
00:48:38
was probably on the whip
00:48:40
once and it was the only one of the doctors
00:48:42
who were appointed to such a high position in the Reinhard program
00:48:48
and what post was the
00:48:50
commandant of Treblinka, I said that there were
00:48:53
three concentration camps within the framework of the
00:48:55
Reinhard program, the death camp was built in the forty-
00:48:58
second year, yes, this is the budget
00:49:00
for the sobibor and training, this one supervised
00:49:05
the construction of Treblinka and when the 3rd film
00:49:08
was completed, the
00:49:11
extermination of the
00:49:12
inhabitants of the Warsaw ghetto immediately began and he set about
00:49:15
it with such devilish zeal, playing
00:49:19
something like a game. this is a unique case
00:49:22
of the Nazi
00:49:23
extermination machine, it malfunctioned and in Berlin they were
00:49:26
simply stunned by what happened, that is,
00:49:29
in a matter of weeks, simply with
00:49:34
some kind of manic tenacity with
00:49:36
manic, he destroyed
00:49:39
280,000 people,
00:49:41
two hundred and eighty thousand Jews,
00:49:45
as a result of the
00:49:47
funeral teams, they simply
00:49:49
could not cope with the disposal of these bodies and
00:49:52
decomposing bodies decomposing bodies were
00:49:55
piled up on the camp grounds,
00:49:59
they poisoned the environment and drove
00:50:02
all the workers of the concentration
00:50:04
camp crazy, something simply terrible was happening there,
00:50:07
it is impossible to imagine how in
00:50:09
such an atmosphere it was in principle possible to
00:50:11
be in such an atmosphere, naturally complaints flew to Berlin,
00:50:13
so Christian Verta which we
00:50:16
talked about earlier would
00:50:18
have been an inspector by this moment, he rushed there to
00:50:20
see what was happening there and was simply
00:50:21
stunned, it was a fantastic horror even
00:50:26
for the Nazis,
00:50:27
and
00:50:28
after that Eberle was removed and until the end of
00:50:32
the war he could be formed, he was married, he was a
00:50:35
beggar, I was, but what does it have to do with it? I will
00:50:38
tell you more, the letters and
00:50:41
the box that he wrote to his wife
00:50:43
with 3 blinks have been preserved and he does not write that
00:50:45
something amazing is happening here, this is
00:50:48
the present, this is the real twilight of the gods, that
00:50:52
is, he means that this is what
00:50:54
history means, we are making history here
00:51:01
. bodies it’s just when there are 280,000 people
00:51:05
it’s impossible to imagine even
00:51:08
really virtual when he arrived the elevator was a
00:51:12
killer of course but he was cold-blooded
00:51:14
murder when he arrived there he was simply
00:51:15
stunned. the fury of which was poured out on
00:51:18
Eberl, it was huge, colossal,
00:51:21
unprecedented, that is, he was simply
00:51:22
kicked out of there, he was not just kicked out of the post of
00:51:25
head of a
00:51:26
concentration camp, he was completely
00:51:28
kicked out of this system, and he vegetated until
00:51:31
the end of the war.
00:51:39
of this disgrace, he decided to
00:51:43
drop by at the end of the war, he also pretended
00:51:47
that he was just a doctor after the war, he
00:51:50
opened a medical practice and
00:51:55
calmly treated people for more than a year,
00:51:58
but then of course they got to him, that
00:52:02
is, later they found out that he was him, so
00:52:05
he was arrested and finished with himself in
00:52:08
prison, well, this is an attempt to make something out of
00:52:12
this, it has nothing to do with it, it’s amazing,
00:52:14
just go through life too, to nowhere,
00:52:17
madness, all the calculations, he understood that
00:52:19
he would have to answer for this, yes, I’ll
00:52:22
be buried, of course, this is how the twilight of
00:52:24
the gods turned out a lot, I communicate very
00:52:27
hard about this is to read this study
00:52:30
here is another executioner about whom
00:52:34
I would like to say is
00:52:35
important this is the same figure and unfortunately not
00:52:38
known to our viewers she played a
00:52:41
big role in the war of extermination this is
00:52:44
another physician Dr. Hart Noise
00:52:47
who formally opened this phase of
00:52:51
forced euthanasia who
00:52:52
formally opened T4 it was he who was the first
00:52:55
to destroy a group of
00:52:58
mentally ill people in the chart on which
00:53:01
I spoke in January 1944, that’s exactly
00:53:04
how the medic led the medical team,
00:53:07
he also proved himself very well
00:53:12
during the T4 program, he also caught the eye of
00:53:17
Heinrich Himmler
00:53:18
and the dimmer gave him a very important assignment
00:53:22
and namely, to find a tool
00:53:27
for sterilization of huge masses of people,
00:53:31
this one and this direction of Nazi
00:53:34
medical experiments is still
00:53:36
underestimated,
00:53:38
the author of the publication that I am now
00:53:40
preparing, I propose to consider these
00:53:43
medical experiments in the same vein as the
00:53:48
development of the so-called OST plan,
00:53:51
our notebook packs of lectures about the OST plan, but
00:53:54
I’m a little I repeat, there are various myths
00:53:57
associated with this plan, there is a myth
00:54:01
that this plan was implemented during the
00:54:04
actual war in the east, this is not so,
00:54:08
during the war in the east there was a war of
00:54:10
destruction and the famine plan is being implemented,
00:54:13
but the OST plan is a plan after the war for the
00:54:16
development of the conquered lands and it was only
00:54:20
being developed during the war, its
00:54:22
development was not completed and Hitler was
00:54:24
not reported, only to say that Himmler
00:54:26
oversaw the development of this plan, but
00:54:30
the meaning of developing it is clear. to
00:54:32
radically reduce the number of
00:54:34
Slavs, the number of the indigenous population and
00:54:37
Voronin eaters, and to increase the Germans,
00:54:40
to increase the Germans, that is, the task was how
00:54:42
they danced German zerowatt
00:54:44
territory, that is, to export German
00:54:46
colonists so that in a hundred years the entire
00:54:48
territory to the Urals would not be close,
00:54:50
but the plan itself is only there Arhar David
00:54:54
Soli, this official of the Ministry of
00:54:56
Eastern Territories, there are comments
00:54:58
about how to actually change how to
00:55:01
implement to the population of
00:55:04
Soviet citizens, so he writes there that
00:55:08
childfree propaganda is needed to carry out so that
00:55:12
Russians do not have children, reduce to
00:55:14
a minimum the training of pediatricians,
00:55:19
in every possible way, programs promote that
00:55:21
children to have harmful ones is very expensive
00:55:23
to expand the network and Bart Aryans,
00:55:26
no kindergartens, nothing like this,
00:55:29
that is, it is necessary to introduce a
00:55:31
policy that would sharply reduce the
00:55:33
birth rate among the Slavic peoples and
00:55:35
increase it among the Germans, but this was
00:55:38
clearly not enough for Himmler, and this is where the plan
00:55:41
to find medical instruments for the masses was born
00:55:43
sterilization because mass
00:55:46
sterilization of Jews it was not on
00:55:48
Jews these experiments were the size of
00:55:50
refan and time it was not needed yet
00:55:51
the Jews were exterminated at the post
00:55:55
with the gypsies the same story of who for
00:55:59
whom mass sterilization is needed for the
00:56:02
layer that there are so many Slavs that if
00:56:05
everyone is exterminated then firstly, it
00:56:09
will be impossible to do, it won’t work, it won’t be possible, and it will be
00:56:11
impossible to have nodes and, and yes, and the
00:56:14
second point, yes it must be done gradually, because it was
00:56:17
planned that it will teach me to die only for
00:56:20
this 30 million, and for now we
00:56:23
use the rest as
00:56:26
colonial labor, colonial, not naked,
00:56:28
here they are in the morning,
00:56:30
several million were taken to Germany
00:56:32
so that they would work there as slaves
00:56:34
in the occupied territories, they would be
00:56:37
like subordinate labor forces, and so
00:56:39
gradually over the course of a hundred years over
00:56:41
several generations we will
00:56:45
reduce them; there will be more radical Germans
00:56:48
and
00:56:49
here are two such large specialists of low
00:56:54
copper kakarot lauber ghost Schumann
00:56:56
competed in search of this, which means a
00:57:00
tool descending on the method of mass
00:57:03
mass sterilization and
00:57:07
[music]
00:57:09
Horst Schumann, he was searching for a
00:57:14
mass, well, the Lord researched how
00:57:20
radiation affects fertility, reproduction, he trained the patient,
00:57:24
trained his victims and
00:57:28
achieved certain successes, he makes
00:57:31
you crowns
00:57:33
later when Auschwitz, the Red Army was already
00:57:36
approaching there, he moved to the
00:57:37
concentration camp of Ravensbrück and there he
00:57:40
continued this work, well, he’s such an
00:57:44
outspoken bastard, that is, he fled for
00:57:47
many years, he was hiding
00:57:50
in Africa,
00:57:53
finally he was extradited,
00:57:56
there was a trial against him, but by this time it was already the
00:57:59
beginning of the seventies he was already
00:58:01
very old and in a willow bed, why should
00:58:03
n’t he understand the deserved punishment, although
00:58:05
in fact this is certainly one of the
00:58:08
main medical war
00:58:11
criminals of Nazi Germany, even
00:58:13
if he directly worked to
00:58:16
destroy our people and our
00:58:18
population, and it was this
00:58:21
doctor, yes this doctor is exactly this doctor, and he
00:58:25
also began his work, his career
00:58:29
with the T4 program, we see that this
00:58:32
program was not some random
00:58:34
and unnoticeable episode in the history of the
00:58:36
Nazi
00:58:38
extermination policy, it was the origins and the 1st step
00:58:41
to all this policy and to our history
00:58:44
fear this also happened on the
00:58:46
territory of Germany, but to the history of our
00:58:48
country it has the most direct
00:58:50
relation to a creepy cameo in medicine it
00:58:54
was created invented slowly by
00:58:59
a community of people this is to treat
00:59:01
save people of course treat the
00:59:04
disk saver then life and the Germans put everything
00:59:06
the other way around how to destroy people correctly
00:59:09
with less expense
00:59:11
with one injection but to destroy the doctor,
00:59:15
well, here it was a cannibalistic man
00:59:18
who initially wanted the fact that
00:59:20
there are good people and unfit people and
00:59:23
their main task as a political
00:59:26
leadership is
00:59:27
to redistribute all resources in favor of the good to
00:59:29
see the unfit has no right and
00:59:31
not by them own how dare they themselves
00:59:34
took the right to consider anyone and
00:59:36
worthless, and in mine, in the new
00:59:40
edition, the war of annihilation will
00:59:42
of course be developed based on this story about
00:59:44
programs as if 4 worked on this topic,
00:59:47
supplemented the material in particular with the
00:59:50
head of the projects
00:59:52
cool as Dmitry says only on full of
00:59:55
pieces I wanted to contact in our visual,
00:59:57
especially the young ones,
00:59:59
be sure to ask for this medicine for you
01:00:01
to understand in general that
01:00:03
so to speak, a united Europe led
01:00:06
in the head of Adolf is playing around and has prepared for
01:00:09
us, without any illusions, to save from the
01:00:12
communists without the Jews, save Russia, it’s
01:00:14
just stupid to destroy like some kind of cattle
01:00:17
and
01:00:18
then, in the spirit of recent events,
01:00:20
I also saw as if in Ukraine there are Nazis who are
01:00:22
young, some kind of
01:00:24
losers, I don’t know who is in Russia, we are walking around in
01:00:27
Russia with swastikas, it’s clear when he
01:00:30
shows a war veteran, he never
01:00:32
films, then a war veteran
01:00:34
pokes his nose into his grandfather and where are his children grandchildren they
01:00:38
love their grandfather they love Germany and they
01:00:40
suffered from the Kabbalists and they have
01:00:42
some other last thing there, this is the remainder of
01:00:43
the exhausts, it’s clear that they all
01:00:45
suffered so much from the communists, that didn’t
01:00:47
mean the guy would surrender, built as
01:00:49
for today him there them
01:00:51
I’ll return internally for a while, and
01:00:53
our Slavs, these poor students, their
01:00:55
grandfathers, shed their lives, gave their lives
01:00:57
as a project, as is now clear, the
01:00:59
best people died and now these idiots are
01:01:03
walking around, okay, there will be a separate story about them, be
01:01:05
sure to buy this book in the
01:01:07
new edition that will be in war of
01:01:09
annihilation with an addition about the T4 tank program
01:01:12
there will be many additions, that is, this is
01:01:14
the only very interesting thing to wait for when the
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book is yours, it’s in German, it
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would be nice to listen to the Germans later what
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they think,
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yes, I’m also very interested, and in
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the end, dear friends, I would like to
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invite you to the festival digital
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history its theme this time is myths
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that need to be put to rest it will take place on
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March 21-22 in Moscow in the MPGU concert hall
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there will be all our best speakers and I
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and aleksey Valerie Chasa and the rear Borisych
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Nazarenko Elena Davydovna brown and
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of course Dmitry Yurich needed will arrive her 9
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and the current one you will probably arrive
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say as a symbol the group wins we
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will be glad to see you dear friends
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come to the festival arnica ointment
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thank you very much it’s very cool that you are
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still and with the upcoming holiday of the
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seventieth anniversary of the victory yes we
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defeated everyone and we saved the whole world in the world we are
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our our ancestors that's
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all for today

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В продолжение темы Великой Отечественной Войны достаём из архива беседу, где Егор Яковлев рассказывает о начале нацистской политики уничтожения. Видео вышло на канале Дмитрия Пучкова в феврале 2020-го года. В связи с ростом аудитории и сохранившейся актуальностью темы публикуем его на «Цифровой истории». Аудиоверсия: https://t.me/egoryakovleff/3111 Политический дневник А. Розенберга: https://imwerden.de/pdf/politichesky_dnevnik_alfreda_rozenberga_1934-1944_2015__izd.pdf Расписание экскурсий экспертов «Цифровой истории»: https://vk.com/egortrip Книжный магазин «Цифровая история»: https://digital-history.ru/ Поддержать проект «Цифровая история»: «Sponsr» — https://sponsr.ru/dhistory/ «Сбербанк»: 4276-5500-7886-1070 «Donationalerts» — https://www.donationalerts.com/r/dighistory «Яндекс.Деньги» (ЮMoney): 410012000113107 Наши площадки: RuTube - https://rutube.ru/channel/23600725/ ВК - https://vk.com/dighistory Телеграм - https://t.me/egoryakovleff Яндекс-Дзен: https://dzen.ru/dighistory

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