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to object to me in essence. Thank God00:00:03
that at least Shenderovich is not a trans00:00:06
Ukrainian. But00:00:08
we can’t, like Ass is there and the word is no,00:00:10
stop this [ __ ], this is really more00:00:13
satisfying00:00:15
[music]00:00:19
Good afternoon My name is Elena Malakhovskaya00:00:21
this is the current moment, a new episode of your00:00:24
probably favorite program, right now we are00:00:27
joined by writers, publicists00:00:29
Viktor Shenderovich Viktor Anatolyevich,00:00:31
hello, let's00:00:34
talk as always about the agenda Well,00:00:37
a little about the eternal00:00:41
[music]00:00:46
the agenda is monstrous, which, however, does00:00:49
not surprise us anymore, what could be worse than00:00:51
hitting the elderly with missiles houses to kill00:00:54
civilians there, including children, but00:00:57
then post this picture on social networks00:01:00
Yes, not for the first time, by the way, even00:01:02
this turned out that this is not the limit of00:01:05
cynicism in the news in Russia 1 footage of a00:01:09
house destroyed by a Russian missile in00:01:11
Uman illustrated the alleged gift of the00:01:14
Ukrainian troops in the Donbass This is how it00:01:16
was Ukrainian militants tonight00:01:18
again shelled the territory of Donbass00:01:20
Nikolskoye Yakovlevka and Yasinovataya came under fire00:01:23
over 20 shells flew over them in00:01:25
just 24 hours across populated00:01:28
areas of the DPR Kiev formations00:01:29
fired almost 260 ammunition00:01:34
what do you think Is this an editor’s mistake or is it00:01:37
something to be ashamed of everyone00:01:40
we will die endlessly and we can remove it with a picture. Or00:01:42
maybe a person decided that00:01:44
otherwise on federal television in00:01:47
Russia the destroyed house of paper will still00:01:49
not be shown will show at least it may be so00:01:53
Listen, of course, this is a mistake and wild00:01:57
crap and cynicism, it’s all in one package,00:02:01
amateurism and cynicism they go they00:02:04
go Hand in hand there’s nothing to be ashamed of You00:02:06
understand Well, you’ve been caught in the hand and no00:02:09
one will expose it or00:02:12
call you to court What are you talking about, it means00:02:14
this is happening So you know You00:02:17
work on television I worked00:02:18
once yes there is a voice-over text00:02:23
he looks at a destroyed house he sees a00:02:25
destroyed house he puts everything in a stupid way and the fact that00:02:28
where is this destroyed house he doesn’t care at all is00:02:29
another question What does that mean I don’t00:02:33
know but this is the usual version so00:02:36
technologically advanced maybe someone said00:02:38
this Let’s put it on00:02:43
for fun because no one will catch you00:02:45
by the hand, no one will slap you in the face, no one will fine you,00:02:48
so to speak, will not kick you out, I00:02:51
remember that this even happened in Russia Yes,00:02:53
I remember that Oleg Borisovich Dobrodeev,00:02:56
when he left NTV for VGTRK, said that00:03:01
he would leave his post as head of VK as00:03:04
soon as he you will have to lie or keep silent00:03:06
about some important event Hello Oleg00:03:08
Borishch, I congratulate you Well, that means,00:03:11
but this is also00:03:13
administrative cynicism, first of all, because everyone from top00:03:16
to bottom understands that you can get burned00:03:18
only on one thing: love for00:03:20
Putin or suspicion of sympathy for00:03:23
Ukraine is not enough. here you can talk and00:03:25
cover up such a sticky thing, this is a nice00:03:30
set of cities, not only is it crazy that the Dnieper00:03:34
and the Kherson region were subjected to00:03:35
shelling, in general, it must be said that00:03:38
almost every day a bomb is flying into00:03:42
Ukraine and every day in Russia there are00:03:45
people who cannot protest as much as they can for00:03:48
example, it is already00:03:51
traditional to bring flowers to the monuments of00:03:53
Taras Shevchenko or Lassie Ukrainka, they also00:03:57
put a sticker on the world, the world writes on the wall00:04:00
that Putin is a thief and a murderer, probably one00:04:03
of the spectators now we grinned at such a00:04:07
protest. But from them I expect comments with a00:04:10
story about effective ways to combat00:04:13
Putin's regime, but in Berlin over00:04:15
the weekend there was a meeting of the00:04:18
democratic forces of Russia00:04:20
opposing the war, a new document was signed, a00:04:22
new declaration of war, the00:04:24
criminal regime of Putin, illegitimate00:04:27
Ukraine must return to its00:04:29
internationally recognized borders, in general,00:04:31
understandable things, any Russian can00:04:34
sign this document. We will even leave a00:04:35
link in description for this broadcast, but I00:04:40
have already seen that some people publicly00:04:43
refuse on their blogs, you know, because of00:04:45
what clause this is why00:04:48
the signatories refrain from00:04:50
public conflicts of democratic and00:04:53
anti-war movements. But it seems to me that this is a00:04:55
good and fresh idea. And as it seems to you,00:04:59
and it seems to me, I signed this document and it00:05:02
seems to me that this may very well be the00:05:04
most important thing because there00:05:07
were quite a lot of declarations of this kind of ours,00:05:10
starting with the actual statement of the00:05:12
anti-war committee in the first days after the00:05:14
start of the war. And this is a very important thing00:05:16
because little has happened00:05:19
this year, disgraceful, than this is a series of series00:05:22
endless conflicts of explanations of00:05:25
those who are against the war against Putin00:05:29
against the war against this00:05:32
dirt00:05:33
for any00:05:35
perforations torn those who left did not leave00:05:38
then left or did not00:05:40
leave then for one reason or another left00:05:44
and so on00:05:47
after February 24 last year00:05:50
the only perforation for this war or00:05:53
against that that's all, did you support00:05:56
this war or no00:05:59
support, geography of support00:06:01
second And of course there are a lot of00:06:03
details,00:06:05
a lot of points for conflict and it00:06:08
is very important that behind all this a00:06:10
clear, intelligible idea is not lost00:06:13
that there are a lot of people, millions, who are00:06:15
against this war00:06:22
and are ready correspond, but00:06:26
how would you like to perceive this document,00:06:29
probably many people would like to perceive it as a kind of00:06:31
Step towards the unification of the Russian anti-war00:06:35
opposition Do you think this is even00:06:37
possible or Is it possible to perceive it like that?00:06:40
You understand I will never be At one with00:06:44
a number of people some of the people who signed will never be nice00:06:46
already this00:06:49
document can still be signed by those who will sign it, but00:06:52
this is not family life Yes, and so to speak It’s00:06:56
not necessary to be quite nice;00:06:59
unification means joining00:07:01
forces of efforts, that’s all, and I think I was00:07:06
talking about this. Maybe this is not my00:07:08
idea; we need it; we need our own00:07:12
Tikhonovskaya00:07:13
We need a person who legitimately00:07:16
represents us00:07:19
Russian Russians, but those who are against00:07:22
Putin are against the war, Belarusians in some00:07:25
sense are lucky in at least this, sorry00:07:28
for the black one, but at least they are lucky in this00:07:30
they have laws, elected presidents00:07:32
Tikhonovsky, she won the elections, it’s another00:07:35
matter that then she’s a bandit Lukashenko00:07:38
asked another question about this, but they have a00:07:40
figure who legally fixed the00:07:44
free choice of Belarus against00:07:47
Lukashenko. We don’t have such a figure00:07:50
who, in fact, would be a figure that00:07:52
unites, this figure should appear00:07:55
unconditionally and we must agree with00:07:58
this, then the question of politicians is how they are there00:08:00
between they will agree with themselves, I have already said00:08:02
that egocentrism is quite a terrible00:08:05
story00:08:11
of the opposition. But such a person must00:08:14
appear who, on our behalf, will00:08:16
speak to the world and to the Russians about00:08:19
basic things00:08:21
About our place in the world, he is on about our00:08:24
representation in Russia about how to00:08:26
protect how to protect Russians yes,00:08:30
those who fell under this hammer, that is, a certain00:08:33
person who will legitimately00:08:35
represent us and this is this00:08:37
legitimacy, I look forward to00:08:40
it not being dozens of heterogeneous00:08:43
oppositionists, each with his own Duda Yes, very00:08:46
useful things doing but come on And this00:08:49
would be some kind of single political00:08:51
center Tikhanovskaya is needed, Tikhanovskaya is needed,00:08:53
and this will be a very big00:08:56
step forward in my opinion, and a big step00:08:58
will be compliance with this ill-fated00:09:01
observance00:09:10
[music]00:09:13
here they could not make a space between00:09:16
sections because the speech is a mistake. Forgive me,00:09:18
Lord, but this time Viktor00:09:20
Anatolyevich will have news about you right00:09:23
now Do you know that you are now in the database of00:09:26
enemies of Ukraine Peacemaker and00:09:29
can you guess why I will show00:09:34
this fragment of this fragment of the video belongs to our00:09:37
colleagues therefore, in order to avoid00:09:41
any claims to the Khodorkovsky Lifes channel,00:09:45
we will demonstrate this fragment directly in your00:09:47
place it will be organic After all, you are in00:09:50
your place and will be squared So00:09:53
a minute from Viktor Shenderovich00:09:56
Russian liberals are00:09:58
conditionally with the Ukrainians of today, we are00:10:02
partners until the first turn00:10:06
until the overthrow of Putin until the end of the war with00:10:10
Ukraine until the Victory of Ukraine in this war00:10:12
Here we are00:10:13
united But then00:10:16
his remark from the journalist of the unfortunate00:10:19
journalist of the rain, this revealed after all this00:10:20
is our country and our guys Yes, the00:10:24
deceived unfortunate people sometimes even kill a murderer00:10:26
But this is but they are ours this is our country00:10:29
and our area of responsibility and our00:10:32
country and we would like Putin not to00:10:35
exist and Russia to exist but I can’t vouch for Ukraine anymore.00:10:37
And many Ukrainians already, and00:10:40
emotionally one can understand them, would like00:10:42
Russia to simply cover itself with a rusty00:10:45
basin; we would like Russia to be like this00:10:48
after Putin,00:10:51
and we perceive the00:10:53
outbursts of Nazism, so to speak, very painfully and acutely; let’s00:10:56
call a spade a spade with on the00:10:58
opposite side when I hear a00:11:00
speech about the fact that the Russian people are some kind of00:11:02
Arab Yes, the Orcs are all just based on the fact of a00:11:07
Russian passport, people are divided00:11:10
mainly into two parts into two sides on00:11:13
social networks. I mean, some say00:11:15
Shenderovich broke down, others say that00:11:17
Androvich gave away the base and it’s not that words are00:11:21
something new for me We’ve discovered00:11:24
during this whole year we’ve been communicating. It00:11:26
seems to me that00:11:29
you’ve already voiced approximately the same thoughts more than once, but00:11:31
about him I wanted to ask you at the right time, the00:11:34
most common comment is that it’s not the00:11:37
right time what cannot be said about the manifestation of00:11:39
outbursts of Nazism among Ukrainians when00:11:42
the background news is the number of victims00:11:44
in the mind is not the same and the analysis of the rubble may00:11:47
really be outbursts of Nazism00:11:50
simply turned out to be here not comparable at00:11:53
least in the picture Well listen You can,00:11:56
of course, wait until the outbursts of Nazism00:11:58
become state policy But it’s00:12:00
better to record the outbursts of Nazism00:12:03
while these are just outbursts and not at all00:12:06
accusations of Ukraine As they wrote, the00:12:07
Nazis have no state politics00:12:11
I have hundreds of these on my00:12:16
Facebook it splashes just non-stop00:12:18
splashing non-stop about the inferior00:12:22
Arab Russian people Yes and the orcs00:12:24
of which we need all so to speak00:12:28
in regards to in regards to in time I spoke It would be00:12:31
better to record this record00:12:33
this danger at least that00:12:42
about00:12:52
not only the housekeeper00:13:06
Yes, I’m not asking you to moderate the cry I don’t I00:13:13
accept everything that is said without00:13:15
comment I’m talking to you Yes I with00:13:17
you I’m ready to sympathize ready to help00:13:20
if it’s when It’s a cry of pain And when it’s00:13:24
completely calculated conversion conversion conversion of00:13:27
simply not love for Russia00:13:30
today you can convert very nicely00:13:32
Hatred of Russia and00:13:35
many are completely professional in this,00:13:37
there are voluptuous people00:13:40
who simply comb theirs, so to speak,00:13:43
Taking advantage of that that00:13:45
he is Ukrainian00:13:52
and someone is just working, someone is just00:13:55
at work,00:14:12
justice00:14:17
and00:14:20
you can understand we need to share things, I’m00:14:22
pleadingly just like an ass saying the00:14:25
same thing, we need to share an understanding of the00:14:28
complete justice of the historical00:14:31
collective responsibility that has already00:14:33
come to the Russians and is expressed, among other00:14:35
things in particular, in such a moral00:14:38
nature, this is historically fair,00:14:41
of course, everyone understands the Germans all this00:14:44
for a long time,00:14:46
but it is necessary to distinguish between motives. I repeat, when00:14:50
there is a cry of pain, this is one thing when there is00:14:53
calculated politicking and just00:14:55
business. Sorry, business, many have00:14:58
risen very well on this00:15:02
Hatred of00:15:04
Russia today it is very well00:15:06
converted both in Ukraine and in some00:15:10
parts of the liberal Russian Spectrum00:15:13
those who made an instantaneous00:15:17
transition from00:15:20
one status to another with the click of a switch; they were00:15:22
Russians, sometimes Russians,00:15:30
in essence, what I said, I just00:15:33
listened to it again, I’ve done it more than once I listened to00:15:36
this piece of mine, I’m still waiting for00:15:38
someone to object to me. In fact, there are00:15:40
no outbursts of Nazism or these are not ours,00:15:45
we are not responsible for them for some reason00:15:48
in the quote Yes, who quotes00:15:51
quotes ours But I quoted the00:15:53
Rain channel I quoted that Rain channel I00:15:56
grinned about the fact that sometimes00:15:58
killing is something I quoted and I chuckled about it00:16:01
and then I said about our00:16:03
responsibility for these people for our00:16:07
country, that’s what I’m talking about, that the objection is00:16:10
essentially we are not responsible for these00:16:13
killers of marauders, we are not we answer my answer I00:16:16
answer00:16:18
this is our country, which is at such a00:16:22
point in the moral political of our00:16:25
country, we wish it well, we wish it00:16:28
not Disappearance00:16:30
after Putin, wanting00:16:32
someone to object to me Stop00:16:34
lashing00:16:37
Stop00:16:39
me essentially00:16:47
thesis on thesis please means let's00:16:50
talk if you want if not you can00:16:53
continue bandaging and dancing and hooting00:16:55
As for the wording that00:16:58
appeared on the website Peacemaker, this is00:17:01
just nonsense slander, just slander. I’m00:17:04
looking forward to being presented with00:17:06
some quotes, again from me, about00:17:10
supporting the00:17:11
war in Ukraine, and the00:17:14
homeless are looking forward to supporting the extermination of civilians00:17:17
for now this is slander,00:17:20
here are my first feelings from00:17:24
what is happening, back to the main thing, to the essence of00:17:27
your question, so once again the truth, the00:17:31
concrete truth, today,00:17:33
wild pain,00:17:35
real genuine pain on the part of00:17:38
Ukraine and those who feel it, even It00:17:41
doesn’t matter where they live, but they feel it as00:17:44
their pain goes huge pain in parallel00:17:48
with this of Ukrainian00:17:50
sympathizers, even more in parallel with00:17:53
this there is a very unsightly00:17:56
disgusting business of00:17:58
hatred towards Russia,00:18:14
this is one thing, this Cry of more00:18:16
hatred, and another thing is the calculated00:18:19
earning of political points and00:18:22
just the economy because they00:18:24
rise very well, these trolls on00:18:27
hatred of Russia, I distinguish these things between the00:18:30
victims, my sympathy for the00:18:33
scoundrels, my contempt. That’s00:18:36
still one comment that I00:18:39
liked on this video: even00:18:43
with the ritual, the person moved it on his page00:18:45
that thank God that00:18:48
Shenderovich is at least not a trans Ukrainian00:18:50
at all. This concept seems to be it's time00:18:53
to talk about trances Ukrainian00:18:59
to be honest00:19:02
Well, it's already carrying an elephant that even we can't00:19:06
how Ass is there but there is no word And you know,00:19:09
you told Of course I'm the obvious00:19:11
thing that someone can00:19:13
make money from this I really can't00:19:15
imagine the mechanisms But this it’s also like a00:19:18
disease, how can a person00:19:22
do it unconsciously, but the00:19:24
brain can’t cope with what you and I00:19:28
here are trying to cope with every week,00:19:30
someone can’t cope with it, and then he00:19:32
makes this transition and treat it,00:19:37
he should do it, look no, the counters don’t it is necessary00:19:40
that we are different in case when all this I00:19:43
quote antennas to our almost things our00:19:46
relationship to them to treat Nothing is impossible here00:19:48
This is the relationship of a person if a00:19:51
person is corrected with the complexity of the00:19:54
volume of00:19:55
this challenge how to remain an00:19:59
internal Russian if Russia the00:20:01
Russian state has turned into a00:20:03
source of hell simply in the devil we are today is the00:20:08
Empire of Evil in its purest form,00:20:10
today's Russian state is the00:20:12
Empire of Evil in its purest form, this is evil in its00:20:15
purest form, and there00:20:17
was no such opposition to this, there was no such unity,00:20:21
even under Hitler, Hitler had a coalition.00:20:24
And today's China, in my opinion,00:20:26
has fallen away from us before the voted aggression00:20:30
[music] there are00:20:32
generally no partners in the world of such00:20:35
opposition to the world’s evil00:20:38
Yes, it didn’t00:20:40
mean how to combine00:20:44
this, identifying yourself as a00:20:47
Russian with this huge00:20:49
responsibility that fell on you,00:20:52
there are complex Yes, complex mechanisms00:20:56
that I am trying to talk about and00:20:58
pronounce these things with myself00:20:59
negotiate and explain to yourself00:21:02
because writing is the best way to explain to yourself00:21:04
when you formulate many things on paper00:21:07
You understand better yourself in the process of writing,00:21:09
so this is a complex process, many00:21:12
cannot cope with this complexity and then00:21:15
it’s easier to click I don’t take the extreme00:21:17
case again00:21:19
Absolutely cynical Yes, such a00:21:22
transition if Pertsev to Ukrainians is00:21:25
just a completely classic But appreciate it00:21:28
And I now we are now and you just00:21:30
talked about very important things about a00:21:32
sincere person cannot00:21:34
identify himself with Russia anymore, he00:21:37
just clicked like this Yes, I’m not Russia00:21:40
I’m Ukrainian, fortunately language close cultures00:21:43
Close Yes the story is close in Russian they00:21:45
even understand00:21:48
this of course00:21:52
it’s me I’m solving a complex problem in a simple00:21:57
way It’s me who went into another room I didn’t00:21:59
become00:22:00
horrified by the nightmare the bloody nightmare of this00:22:04
room and figure it out and figure it out Yes and00:22:08
try to do something And I I just went out to00:22:10
another room and there it’s good, purely from a00:22:12
moral point of view. That is, I’m a victim,00:22:14
everyone should feel sorry for me00:22:17
with reason. I’m Ukrainian,00:22:20
I have the right to a lot, they’re00:22:24
also psychologically useful00:22:28
and convenient.00:22:30
So, psychologically, what you00:22:33
described is very clear and again we need to00:22:36
differentiate people who00:22:38
simply have such a way out of00:22:42
unbearable mental discord and simply00:22:46
cold price tags who took00:22:49
the conversion on the other side00:22:55
[music]00:22:59
918 million rubles and unpaid00:23:03
taxes popular blogger k Elena00:23:06
Blinovskaya is now under house00:23:08
arrest And many of her colleagues are wondering who the00:23:11
next me is I’m almost sure Viktor00:23:14
Anatolyevich that you, like many of our00:23:16
viewers, first heard about Blinovskaya00:23:18
after a criminal case was opened against her,00:23:20
so I’ll briefly tell you who she is.00:23:23
In general, she’s a very large blogger00:23:26
with five million subscribers, more00:23:28
than 5 million subscribers on Instagram. She’s00:23:30
like that trainer for the fulfillment of00:23:33
desires, people pay money for00:23:35
Blinovskaya to send them motivating00:23:37
voice messages to a group in the00:23:39
messenger and Yes, as it turned out,00:23:42
you can make money on this, make00:23:44
billions, and such successful bloggers00:23:47
began to be shaken, there is information that00:23:50
the tax office is checking one second00:23:52
third, what do you think for the sake of just00:23:54
profits for the treasury or maybe they will now be00:23:59
forced to work in new patriotic00:24:02
conditions in the interests of a special military00:24:05
operation00:24:07
Well, first of course, about the Russians who,00:24:09
for money, means listened to these00:24:12
motivating messages But they fulfilled one dream of00:24:14
Blinovskaya Yes, she became00:24:16
a millionaire, at least one dream00:24:18
came true Regarding your question,00:24:22
I don’t, I think it’s00:24:26
918 million rubles, that’s the main thing in00:24:31
this story,00:24:34
and in order to have an indulgence for00:24:37
theft on such a scale, you need to be00:24:41
firmly inscribed with the letter z, then as much as00:24:44
you like,00:24:51
and just like that, just like that,00:24:56
earn money00:25:02
B I don’t know to what extent we are present during the00:25:05
execution of the traditional hit-and-run scheme,00:25:09
but it is clear that if you are not under a00:25:15
roof, then this is punishable. Of course, you00:25:18
had to be hanged with the letter Z00:25:23
and then you are stupid because00:25:34
it is possible, but of course you also00:25:38
need money, you need money in the treasury and for logic00:25:42
show their effectiveness here everything00:25:45
is clear Darwinism is normal00:25:49
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deprive of citizenship of those who are against the war00:25:58
for discrediting the army fakes these are the00:26:01
newfangled articles that are now possible in00:26:04
Russia only acquired00:26:06
citizenship under the new law But it00:26:08
seems there may not be so many such people in00:26:11
reality of course a lot, especially if00:26:13
you remember that after the collapse of the USSR, not all00:26:16
people immediately received those who wished to receive a00:26:19
Russian passport. They probably also00:26:21
took some kind of oath. This is why00:26:23
citizenship can now be denied,00:26:26
allegedly for the fact that they lied then, and00:26:29
in parallel with this, a law was passed00:26:31
making it easier for foreigners to obtain citizenship00:26:33
right now if a foreigner00:26:37
goes to fight in Ukraine and signs a00:26:39
contract Well, now you can00:26:42
get a life sentence for treason Viktor Anatolyevich00:26:45
what’s next,00:26:47
well, before I don’t know what’s next, everything is00:26:51
also toughening only toughening and00:26:54
there’s00:26:56
no point in guessing yes Which side00:26:59
will slam shut which window where it00:27:01
will still move and pump out the air But here the00:27:03
most important thing of what you said00:27:05
is the provision of citizenship for00:27:08
participation in the war, in fact, you need00:27:10
cannon fodder, this is such a completely clear00:27:13
signal, the cannon fodder is running out, there00:27:16
may not be enough of our own. So we will pump it00:27:18
out of Central Asia because it is unlikely that00:27:21
Sweden Poland Mercenaries will go in commercial00:27:23
quantities Yes, and the giraffe Depardieu apparently00:27:28
sent you something without a hint last week, we already00:27:30
ate it a long time ago As was said, yes00:27:33
So new new,00:27:35
of course, Central Asia from the regions Where00:27:38
they live even worse than in Russia, there will be00:27:42
people for obtaining citizenship for00:27:44
the opportunity to get more money at the same time00:27:47
will risk their lives business00:27:50
such business of the Russian state00:27:52
the current Russian state rests00:27:55
only on this war00:27:57
there is no other agenda everything is lost except this00:27:59
war the war is also lost but00:28:01
in the future it is still possible to portray00:28:04
something so they cannot leave from00:28:06
this war and that’s why they are pumping00:28:09
money into this war.00:28:11
Why are these billions Yes, tax money, they will all00:28:15
go, they will not go to teachers,00:28:18
they will go to war00:28:22
and they need cannon fodder, this is the most00:28:26
important thing00:28:30
[music]00:28:37
high school students will study the00:28:39
modern history of Russia on00:28:41
Vladimir Medinsky's textbooks will00:28:44
definitely have a section about theirs, in particular00:28:47
they promise to talk about Z Patriots,00:28:50
call them by the names of z-heroes Sorry And00:28:53
just like that, it immediately seems to me that this is00:28:55
somewhat underestimated news, which is why00:28:58
it ended up in our section. It needs to be00:29:00
emphasized. It seems to me that the00:29:02
scale of the problem is underestimated to what extent I now understand that00:29:06
only a young man or00:29:09
girl who sincerely shares00:29:12
these military values of modern Russia00:29:15
or00:29:16
can step on the throat of his own00:29:20
conscience and somehow means having learned it by heart can00:29:23
simply retell it on an exam there00:29:26
or in a test, I understand now unnatural00:29:30
selection in Russia, for example, totally by00:29:33
profession a lawyer where they have to take00:29:35
history and society knowledge how I don’t00:29:39
understand how to behave in a normal Russian family00:29:41
how to explain it in general it’s00:29:45
explainable how to raise a person with00:29:49
such attitudes00:29:51
you know I wanted to say that I know because00:29:54
I lived it but no I don’t know The fact is that00:29:57
our our your thoughts Soviet it00:30:01
still happened, I found it already in the later stages Yes,00:30:04
when it was familiar, I knew that at home00:30:07
they said one thing at00:30:09
school and at the institute another Well, yes, I00:30:12
sat in Komsomol meetings Yes,00:30:13
I served my ass, I raised my hand when necessary and00:30:16
left in the fresh air it didn’t00:30:19
squeak anyone even once. That is, it was00:30:20
just a way. Well, this is the usual thing, this is00:30:24
dirty water in which you have already00:30:27
inhaled with your gills in this dirty00:30:29
water it wasn’t as disgusting of course00:30:32
as today because it was Well yes, I00:30:35
personally said something, I00:30:38
quoted it and forgot. Everything today00:30:41
is in a very poisonous phase, today it’s all bloody00:30:45
and the support today is emotional00:30:47
to say that I support this war is00:30:50
not at all the same as what to say in 70,00:30:53
my sixth year when I entered college to00:30:55
say what not to know about the construction of00:30:57
communism about mark service there was a00:31:00
routine here, there is blood and pus that00:31:03
pours out of these concepts, this is completely00:31:06
different, this is very difficult, this is about the fact00:31:09
that the air is pumped from her, the00:31:12
cat shrinks, the possibilities00:31:14
to remain a decent person and00:31:18
inside Russia you have everything time is pumped out pumped00:31:21
out pumps out this air all00:31:23
the time they limit Now it’s no longer possible00:31:25
Before it was possible to get through without00:31:29
the support of the war, but without going out it’s00:31:32
a Murza yes or woe, well how easy it is to remain00:31:36
silent now it’s no longer possible No you00:31:38
have to say it No you say it Yes that00:31:42
you love Putin what you00:31:44
and everyone And this is a very important thing, the00:31:47
space of Freedom is shrinking. What00:31:50
will happen to this? They will be divided into cynics into00:31:54
marginals, markups and marginals. Price tags00:31:57
will learn the correct text and it will00:31:59
bounce off the teeth and they will00:32:01
make careers.00:32:08
Yes, there Grebenshchikov and00:32:11
companies there are a little older than me, that00:32:14
is, it was00:32:16
Saprovsky00:32:22
people who fell out of the seventies,00:32:25
who chose janitors, watchmen Geologists,00:32:29
to fall out of society somehow and there00:32:32
inside please00:32:40
means either such marginalization00:32:42
or departure or00:32:46
price tags go to price tags, so the entire00:32:50
simple choice of the song, the cunning choice00:32:53
about Medinsky, the fact that he is not a00:32:55
historian at all, but simply a scoundrel, a propagandist,00:32:58
a frame-up, historians, by the00:33:03
Minister of00:33:05
Culture, all his historical works in quotes were00:33:09
dragged out, they analyzed00:33:11
where to put it, everything is a lie00:33:14
and how Patriotic steel will be built on00:33:16
lies on 28 Panfilov's men, who00:33:19
were not there,00:33:20
everything will be invented00:33:25
again on a lie, much more bloody00:33:28
because 28 Panfilov's men were a00:33:30
ritual that had to be00:33:32
worshiped and stood under the Pioneer00:33:34
salute of the monument. But it was a ritual and00:33:37
it was still00:33:38
the basis, after all, the Great00:33:41
Patriotic War people who00:33:44
Well, not these others, not so differently00:33:46
Yes, without these without words, Moscow is behind us with00:33:49
words But people died in a just00:33:52
war for their Motherland, here everything will be00:33:54
much poisonous and nastier, of course, and00:33:58
I wouldn’t want to00:34:00
be in the place of my parents who00:34:03
now have to make a choice together00:34:07
with their children, literally it can be00:34:10
scary, especially for example, against the backdrop of00:34:12
history, we remember it perfectly,00:34:15
what kind of drawing is that?00:34:25
history and social studies. For00:34:28
example, I saw in the test seemingly00:34:29
harmless questions of the fourth grade,00:34:32
for example, Tell me why in Russia it is00:34:36
important to comply in the country in which you00:34:38
live in Russia, this means it is important to00:34:40
comply with the laws. What will happen if they00:34:44
comply with the laws and you know, after00:34:47
listening to a lot of conversations, for example in my00:34:50
family there, my fourth grader could00:34:53
write What he thinks about the laws in00:34:56
Russia, let’s say,00:34:59
taking a little liberties Well, literally00:35:01
people should read it just in00:35:04
case, but you never know what will come out of this, the00:35:06
child may write something innocent, he will00:35:09
say that our laws00:35:12
work out differently for different categories of citizens, the00:35:15
child can focus on the fact that00:35:17
mom and dad told him that he needs to00:35:19
tell the truth,00:35:21
the child can tell something that00:35:24
he heard in the family about these laws, it is00:35:27
necessary to observe these laws, but yes, to begin with,00:35:34
normal laws00:35:54
Ask Please forgive me00:36:12
these laws are just00:36:16
[music]00:36:21
we are recording this program on May 1 and00:36:24
it seems there is no reason not to talk about it00:36:26
About this date Why don’t I understand this has00:36:30
always been a mysterious thing for me since childhood00:36:32
Well, when my grandfather00:36:34
went to parades with the trade union It’s clear00:36:36
then the mystery has gone on Why this00:36:39
holiday has become so popular, a holiday of an00:36:41
essentially00:36:43
eight-hour working day, this00:36:46
was the main requirement in the 19th century when it00:36:48
began to spread and it has taken root00:36:52
not only in Russia, for example, from Morocco00:36:54
to Austria it is celebrated, in particular,00:36:56
Hitler’s Germany was the first to officially celebrate it00:36:59
no less modern00:37:01
Germany also celebrates, and even the00:37:03
Baltic countries, which are allergic to everything00:37:06
Soviet and the holiday is somehow still00:37:08
associated with the USSR Why did it happen00:37:12
Well, listen, Hitler had a national one, but00:37:15
Socialism is a joke, you know What a thing00:37:18
How to hide this horse And what’s on it00:37:21
plow Which field to plow Hitler00:37:25
plowed his field Stalin his00:37:29
ideological field and adapted this00:37:32
holiday to his ideological needs00:37:35
demonstrating his loyalty to caring for00:37:39
the people Well and so on, but at the core of a00:37:41
truly eight-hour working day are00:37:43
human rights at the core of00:37:46
human rights and the right to work and00:37:51
freedom this work on Legality on the00:37:55
fact that you are not happy You are not a slave You are not a00:37:58
vassal You are a free person and on00:38:01
some conditions working for your00:38:03
employer, you know how Stanislav I was a00:38:06
tenant talking about non-killer that this sounds00:38:08
like a reminder And there was an opening today of00:38:11
labor rights The Labor Code,00:38:14
the relationship between an employee and an employer there00:38:21
already resembled an employer, but once upon a time it was a00:38:25
discovery that you can’t just snatch a00:38:28
person and force him to work00:38:30
as much as you want. Taking advantage of his00:38:33
hopeless situation, this was a very00:38:35
important discovery and in memory of this,00:38:47
ideological layers were cleared in China00:38:51
in principle, I remind you that this is generally a very00:38:55
important thing,00:38:56
Trifonov always quotes00:38:58
stranded wire history stranded00:39:00
wire is very important to untangle and cleanse00:39:03
of demagoguery,00:39:06
do not throw away with it, do not throw out the00:39:09
baby with the bathwater, cleanse of00:39:11
demagoguery is very important00:39:13
and May 1 refers to the rights of the Workers00:39:17
I just said it myself the rights of00:39:19
workers are like a lemon in my mouth Yes,00:39:23
because all my youth I have been for the rights of the00:39:25
working class, we know how in the Soviet00:39:28
Union, starting from the Russell Kronstadt00:39:31
workers, how the rights of workers were implemented,00:39:33
we know how they destroyed the workers in the00:39:36
third year, pumped out and so on,00:39:40
really the rights of workers00:39:45
Probably really a good holiday00:39:47
someday we will celebrate it, but for now we have a00:39:50
painkiller00:39:53
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Viktor Anatolyevich Tell me if I’m00:40:02
wrong, but it seems I noticed that in addition to the00:40:04
endless fights on social networks, poetry suddenly00:40:07
began to appear in the same social networks,00:40:10
people are happy to post poems00:40:14
found all these poems are00:40:17
read somewhere, the elements may be new,00:40:19
maybe not necessarily, but very00:40:22
appropriate now and it seems that there may00:40:24
be poetry00:40:26
if this is loud, correct me, it is00:40:29
going through some kind of00:40:31
Renaissance, and maybe not even among the poets,00:40:33
but among the reader because suddenly I want00:40:37
to read poetry, is this true? And why does00:40:41
this happen?00:40:43
Well, this and In the exact sense of the word,00:40:47
poetry that is more quenching is really more00:40:50
quenching. And when00:40:53
formulated well,00:40:55
even the tragic harmonizes your soul.00:41:06
about00:41:10
this00:41:13
will appear Of course Poland in a couple of00:41:16
decades Yes, here is good prose about these00:41:19
times a00:41:20
full-fledged novel about about relaxants00:41:24
fighting00:41:26
warring relaxants produced families00:41:29
about breakups about breakups of loved ones about00:41:32
novels about this dramatic00:41:35
time with enormous painful experience Millions of00:41:38
people this year suffered00:41:41
enormous pain traumatic experience in00:41:45
Ukraine in Russia in the world00:41:47
huge, powerful experience of breakups dramas of00:41:50
death before captivity in prison00:41:53
disappointment of breakups this of course00:41:56
will result in a very good one someday in a00:41:59
very good time is needed we have already00:42:02
talked about this yes War and peace in00:42:04
half a century is needed for a good big00:42:06
novel needed time requires distance and00:42:09
poetry it occurs00:42:13
instantaneous reaction instant00:42:15
emotional reaction and a lot of00:42:18
good new00:42:20
So I recently also launched I regularly00:42:23
and old elements are new Lena Berson00:42:26
is there is Dmitry Kolomensky I am00:42:28
calling relatively new names and then00:42:30
relatively00:42:33
new ones have been appearing in in addition to those who00:42:36
write and my peers are older,00:42:39
that is, in the range. Here in the range00:42:44
from00:42:45
Dingeevsky Konglebsky Akiberova00:42:49
I call to completely unknown00:42:53
very young very strong00:42:56
texts, various strong texts and00:43:04
that’s where, as if in a strange way, rhyming with the00:43:08
Topic00:43:09
that you raised with my case Yes, that’s00:43:13
where the pain is. That’s where the pain is for you.00:43:37
others turned out to be an00:43:39
honor to the country, it’s exactly the kind you00:43:42
write about yourself about your love about your00:43:44
hatred about yours about yours it gets to00:43:48
resonate with the souls of other people if it’s00:43:52
well written To be honest00:43:54
in this sense Yes Huge huge00:43:58
wonderful00:43:59
Of course there is a00:44:06
different quality Yes understandable But there is a very00:44:10
high the quality of the poems is00:44:13
really more satisfying, the fact that we are00:44:16
people are even broader, not that the poems themselves are00:44:19
good, people are very visible, people are visible here, the00:44:23
paper is a phrase that paper will tolerate everything, this is a00:44:26
delusion, it was said by those who have not00:44:29
tried to use paper, paper does not00:44:30
tolerate lies, everything is very clearly visible on00:44:33
on paper everything is very good00:44:35
sincerity and sincerity bragging00:44:38
hypocrisy everything is visible and there are a lot of people00:44:41
a lot of wonderful people00:44:43
and poetry this is the highest form of00:44:47
human speech I guess I don’t think00:44:50
that I came up with it I guess I00:44:52
remembered it but I don’t remember Who said it00:44:54
Of course it is the highest the form of human00:44:56
speech is unconditional and00:44:58
everything is alive, the human soul is alive, many00:45:02
good poems00:45:03
Viktor Anatolyevich Well, those who have00:45:06
not yet discovered this for themselves, this was a00:45:10
quenching, these sawed And this is how it’s done, it’s00:45:12
just you, a person never lives,00:45:15
never read, doesn’t read poetry in ordinary life,00:45:17
just discovers and tries it,00:45:25
maybe you won’t like it Because it’s00:45:29
still not an orange and for you00:45:31
to like it you have to understand00:45:33
better of course it’s hardly better to00:45:37
give children good poems right from childhood,00:45:39
teaching them after all it requires00:45:42
some preparation understanding the rules00:45:45
without understanding the rules it’s like00:45:48
Gogol's parsley it will be a set of letters But it's00:45:51
never too late to try and even for those00:45:54
who haven't tried, here you can open it00:45:56
at random, suddenly something will hit no one00:45:59
Intonation It's different yes Everyone has their own something00:46:01
something can get into the soul00:46:03
get into the soul it’s not clear how this00:46:05
happens And why, from what, in00:46:08
what place can this door open00:46:10
for a person, and then you see today is a very00:46:13
good time in the sense that there are00:46:15
social networks where it’s not just [ __ ]. And you can00:46:18
just look around and stumble upon a person00:46:20
who came to me on a recommendation00:46:23
recommendation I didn’t know Lena00:46:26
from Ukraine living00:46:38
[music]00:46:44
Thank you very much for coming to us Viktor00:46:46
Anatolyevich today it seems that these are all the topics00:46:48
that we were going to discuss with you but with00:46:50
our viewers I hope they will00:46:52
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Новая неделя. Новая боль и болеутоляющее. Проживите текущий момент вместе с Виктором Шендеровичем и Еленой Малаховской. Новый “фокус” российского телевидения. Почему цинизм и бездарность так часто идут рука об руку. Как закончить “срачи” внутри российской оппозиции. Декларация поможет? Как Шендерович попал в базу врагов Украины “Миротворец”. А также: Депардье не в Бахмуте Гребенщиков и компания Блиновская сидит дома Тайм-коды: 00:00 Трейлер 00:50 “Россия-1” иллюстрирует кадрами разрушенного дома в Умани новость об ударах ВСУ по Донбассу 03:30 Встреча в Берлине. Демократические антивоенный силы в эмиграции пытаются договориться 09:14 Виктор Шендерович попал в базу врагов Украины. За что? 18:38 Трансукраинец. Кто это? Как россияне не выдерживают ноши своего гражданства и национальности 23:00 Налоги блогеров. Кто и зачем посадил Елену Блиновскую под домашний арест, и почему неизбежно придут и за другими 25:56 Порядочных людей лишат гражданства России, а убийцам его пожалуют 28:37 Учебники Мединского про войну. Старшеклассников заставят демонстрировать знание “героев-z”. 34:08 Дети могут сказать правду! Это опасно. У нас есть пример Маши Москалёвой. 36:22 Почему люди отмечают Первомай? 40:00 Ренессанс поэзии. Почему именно сейчас люди вдруг решили читать стихи. ПОДПИСАТЬ ДЕКЛАРАЦИЮ РОССИЙСКИХ ДЕМОКРАТИЧЕСКИХ СИЛ https://www.change.org/p/%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85-%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB БЛИЖАЙШИЕ КОНЦЕРТЫ ВИКТОРА ШЕНДЕРОВИЧА https://topticket.lt/ru/event/111 ССЫЛКИ НА СОЦСЕТИ ВЕДУЩИХ ВИКТОР ШЕНДЕРОВИЧ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Telegram-канал https://t.me/viktor_shenderovich ЕЛЕНА МАЛАХОВСКАЯ Twitter https://twitter.com/elmalakhovskaya Telegram https://t.me/ElenMalakhovskaya Книжный Telegram-канал https://t.me/samayachita Предыдущий выпуск: ШЕНДЕРОВИЧ: Пригожин — серьезная политическая сила. Сын Пескова. Палец Кортнева. Стукачи Путина https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SeJR_qPtqQ ХОДОРКОВСКИЙ и ПАСТУХОВ: Россия между внешней и внутренней войной. Почему Запад все время опаздывал https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoSkD7m-DQs ИНОЗЕМЦЕВ: Расходы России — на пике. Налог на «удалёнку». Санкции кончились. Рекорд LVMH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EK4XHntkzU АЛЕКСАШЕНКО: «Газпрому» — конец. Заводы в России закроются. ChatGPT против человечества https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwRTsJ-K4eQ КРУТИХИН: «Газпром» повысит цены в России. G7 против «Росатома». Казахстан получит газ за бесценок / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwDW4uFm3tI ПАСТУХОВ: Как пройти между струй? Новые элиты? Откуда ненависть к Украине? Вопросы зрителей https://www.youtube.com/live/an854QZSLIQ АСЛАНЯН: Путин и Toyota. АвтоВАЗ сдался. Шварценеггер кладет асфальт. Выставка «Техно-Классика» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlP9GxoghUQ Дмитрий БЫКОВ: Единый реестр всего, парады, повестки, Гагарин, госизмена и казнь https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zTYp0zb4dU ============================= Блог Михаила Ходорковского: https://www.youtube.com/user/khodorkovskyru =============================
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