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Africa méia the world is00:00:09
us Africa hello Le Monde00:00:12
viewer of Afric medéia hello00:00:15
welcome to this other edition of ligne00:00:18
rouge the first of the week this morning00:00:21
I will be co-presenting with my00:00:23
colleague Christelle wandi who is with me00:00:28
on the set hello Christel hello00:00:31
Éric titiux ladies gentlemen hello00:00:33
and welcome to this edition of00:00:35
red line on pan-African television you00:00:38
are of course live from Afric méia00:00:40
for your first morning of course00:00:44
on uh uh pan-African television00:00:47
so allow the repetition while00:00:48
today Today Éric Titiu we will have00:00:51
two themes on the menu of the day yes00:00:55
naturally we are going to talk uh about00:00:57
Niger with uh uh the summit the00:01:01
summit on peace which takes place in at in00:01:03
Omé and uh with the declaration uh of the00:01:07
Minister of State Minister of the Interior00:01:11
of Niger who made a00:01:13
strong statement we will also talk about the00:01:16
of Mali with uh tessalid who is uh00:01:20
now released by the00:01:23
Chadian peacekeepers HM and although there although00:01:26
the tensions continue between uh the00:01:30
Malian and of course the Toarek rebels00:01:33
and here ladies and gentlemen we will return00:01:35
to the peace and security forum on the00:01:37
Omé side with the solution to the00:01:40
political crises which should therefore be00:01:42
endogenously proposed by the00:01:46
Nigeriens here is the first theme of00:01:48
this program red line and then00:01:51
we will return to Mali as00:01:52
announced by Éric titu with the withdrawal00:01:56
of the blue helmets from the city of00:01:59
tessalite therefore official and more than00:02:02
ever a reality with the minusma which00:02:05
leaves therefore tessalite now remains the00:02:08
city of Kidal therefore prey to the00:02:11
rebels Toir who has a guest of course00:02:14
ériic ti yes precisely we will have in00:02:18
multiplex Jonathan batguené and surely00:02:23
if the gods of technology00:02:24
allow us we also have Charlie00:02:26
Kenet for the decryption of these00:02:29
themes for this morning then Jonathan00:02:32
batengené welcome to Liv rouge once00:02:36
again hello my brother Éric said hello00:02:39
to the very charming princess00:02:41
Christelle wandi00:02:44
who a pleasure to meet you there00:02:47
this morning hello to all the00:02:49
viewers at the technique uh all00:02:52
those- there who are working00:02:53
so that this broadcast takes place uh00:02:56
one more hello Particular to the00:02:58
general management to the director of00:03:00
programs and uh to Mr. CEO who00:03:04
continues to see for the salvation of00:03:07
Africa the forum on peace which00:03:10
stood in Lomé uh uh the Minister00:03:13
of State Minister of the Interior of Niger00:03:16
who in his speech has already uh criticized00:03:21
everything that is happening at the level of00:03:24
Niger and gave a strong speech00:03:28
but 'first Jonathan ené we are going to00:03:31
take00:03:32
with the technique this speech from00:03:37
the Minister of State Minister of00:03:38
the Interior of Niger and we come back00:03:41
for the00:03:42
decryption the CDAO very quickly00:03:45
organized troops not content with00:03:49
the embargo that she was able to impose on Niger00:03:52
that it was mainly for00:03:55
pharmaceutical products she believed herself to00:03:57
come and attack Niger to supposedly00:04:01
restore President00:04:05
Bazou to his00:04:07
power it is still worth it that it is a00:04:11
utopia we can not in such00:04:13
circumstances to say that we will have to00:04:15
come and attack Niger and replace the00:04:17
president militarily we know that00:04:21
it is not00:04:22
possible it is in the realm of00:04:25
fantasy when we know in what00:04:29
condition the president finds himself and00:04:31
that today today I do not know if this00:04:34
technology exists to be able to come and00:04:36
get President Bazou we00:04:39
say it and at the fort on one condition00:04:41
if we force perhaps it is his corpse00:04:43
that we must look for and if that is00:04:48
the objective can -maybe the attack00:04:50
could be00:04:51
justified and if this is not the case I do00:04:55
n't see under what conditions uh we00:04:57
could come back and try to replace00:04:59
it's President00:05:01
Bou so we call for us to move00:05:06
forward that we00:05:09
sit down that we discuss that you00:05:12
listen to us that we find the supporting documents00:05:15
that we explain to you the reasons why00:05:17
it00:05:18
happened how it happened and how00:05:22
we can think of getting out of it00:05:25
I think that today this forum00:05:28
essentially00:05:31
asks the fundamental question of00:05:33
how to get out of this situation as00:05:36
we said we came00:05:42
mainly for a00:05:43
security problem which dates back more than 1000:05:47
years we want to resolve it very00:05:50
quickly you know the situation00:05:52
in Niger economists here among you00:05:56
who know a little about what00:05:57
Niger is from every point of view,00:06:00
so in relation to00:06:04
that you know very well that it is not00:06:06
something that can be resolved in 600:06:08
months or in 900:06:12
months if this could be possible we00:06:15
had more than 500000:06:19
French partners who had been announced in00:06:21
the00:06:22
Sael for more than 10 years who did00:06:26
not manage to resolve the problem and00:06:28
for so many who know the capacity00:06:31
of00:06:34
France so we took it upon ourselves to00:06:39
say that we are not going to exceed 3 years we00:06:43
will not exceed 3 years00:06:46
and we know that it is quite00:06:49
realistic it is you who are the00:06:52
experts you can appreciate00:06:55
and also even in this deadline that we00:06:59
took it was to ask that the00:07:03
forum to which we are going to call the00:07:05
population the Nigerien people the00:07:08
inclusive forum which will be convened shortly00:07:12
can decide00:07:14
otherwise if it decides that it is less than00:07:16
3 years it would be less than 300:07:20
years so that is what we have said00:07:23
regarding this end of the crisis00:07:26
now we have set a deadline we00:07:28
want in reaction that the00:07:31
international community supports us but not00:07:34
to00:07:36
continue to impose these sanctions which00:07:40
are really of a different nature on00:07:45
Niger imagine a00:07:49
landlocked country a00:07:52
country which00:07:55
practically does not have large manufacturing industries00:08:00
even pharmaceutical products are00:08:01
obliged to order them00:08:04
elsewhere and unfortunately all this does00:08:08
not come through the usual channel so00:08:12
there are restrictions and there are00:08:14
difficulties which00:08:15
arise and today these difficulties00:08:20
that we are facing00:08:22
add to a problem of electricity00:08:24
all the00:08:26
time part of the electricity is00:08:28
supplied by Nigeria we must not00:08:31
hide our faces from one day to the00:08:35
next Nigeria cuts off00:08:38
the electricity while in reality every00:08:42
month every month the00:08:44
Nigerien government pays its electricity bill00:08:46
to Nigeria every00:08:49
month we do not understand in this00:08:51
dynamic what right00:08:53
Nigeria can have to cut off electricity in00:08:56
Niger, imagine the number of deaths00:08:59
that this was able to talk in the00:09:02
Nigerien hospitals before we could00:09:06
tackle this00:09:09
problem so it is a00:09:11
resilient people who are there who are00:09:15
waiting to be understood who are00:09:19
waiting for00:09:21
the friends of Niger because here is00:09:25
Jonathan00:09:27
batenguené Mohamed ba Minister of State00:09:30
Minister of the Interior of Niger00:09:32
wishes to sit down, he asks that we must00:09:35
sit down to discuss in order00:09:37
to move forward and at the same00:09:41
time calls on the international community00:09:43
to support them in the transition in00:09:47
the transition without impose sanctions on them,00:09:51
what is your opinion on this00:09:54
speech that we want to follow immediately,00:10:00
it is the expression of the spite of an entire00:10:03
people, the expression of the revolt which00:10:08
shook all of Africa at the announcement of these00:10:12
unjust sanctions unjustified but00:10:15
above all manipulated by Paris we know that00:10:20
the sanction regime was not thought out00:10:23
by the ECOWAS countries it was and00:10:26
everyone remembers this00:10:28
famous meeting this evening where we saw a00:10:32
room full of Westerners uh00:10:36
French it must be said for the most part00:10:38
but especially members of the00:10:40
European Union who had replaced the00:10:43
ECOWAS diplomats and who had come00:10:47
to adopt a set of resolutions00:10:49
against Niger we saw the trition that00:10:54
France particularly and in the00:10:57
general sense the European Union00:10:59
the United States supported the new00:11:03
transitional authorities in Niger uh00:11:06
even preferring to call them and appoint them00:11:10
young people rather than considering uh a00:11:15
relationship with these soldiers who did00:11:18
not lack grievance and which was00:11:22
especially in front of the wishes of the00:11:25
people because the demand of the people00:11:27
via the popular demonstrations we00:11:30
all saw the demands of the people00:11:33
it was the departure of Bazou and since00:11:36
the presidential election the last00:11:38
presidential election we know that00:11:41
Bazou walks on breezes in Niger00:11:44
because this election is very00:11:47
contested he is not recognized as00:11:50
having truly won00:11:53
the elections and he is considered00:11:56
more as someone who works00:11:59
for foreign interests rather00:12:01
than for his people therefore the embargo which00:12:05
had been taken against the authorities of00:12:07
Niger on the pretext that they had00:12:09
the new00:12:11
authorities of Niger on the pretext that they00:12:13
had broken the constitutional order00:12:16
was00:12:18
unjustified, we should have instead00:12:22
waited for the response of the people did00:12:26
the people rise up against these00:12:29
authorities did the people denounce00:12:33
uh uh uh la la la the the la la the00:12:36
dismissal of bazom did the00:12:38
people raise recriminations against00:12:42
the new transitional authorities00:12:44
that no when you question the00:12:47
Nigerian street they were rather00:12:50
shouting ha saying00:12:53
thank you so it was in contradiction even00:12:57
with the will of these people that this00:13:00
embargo was taken simply because it was00:13:02
necessary justify the it was necessary to00:13:07
justify the privileged relationship that00:13:10
certain countries of the co have00:13:15
with France with the powers of00:13:18
the European Union and when you00:13:20
look at the harshness of these sanctions you00:13:23
wonder what happened00:13:25
what particular crime has been committed00:13:29
it should be noted that the dismissal or00:13:32
discharge of President Bazou was done without00:13:36
effusion of s we did not observe a00:13:41
long knife deit against the former00:13:44
leaders moreover those who00:13:47
deposed Bazou are also part of00:13:50
the management team and they did not00:13:52
launch a vendetta against their colleague00:13:56
who00:13:57
are00:14:02
problems of connection with CIT00:14:04
faithful to bazo ok it was therefore a00:14:08
very particular situation that the00:14:11
Nigerian authorities experienced in their00:14:20
relationship with those who were their00:14:22
partners the cdaao n did not respect00:14:24
this ECOWAS which rather uh uh00:14:29
continued to wage a war by00:14:32
proxy, that is to say in the service of00:14:34
France against the authorities of Niger00:14:37
because it00:14:38
sensed that the new authorities00:14:41
were no longer favorable to this00:14:43
parasitic relationship with Paris where Paris00:14:46
becomes angry late and at the expense00:14:50
of the Nigerien people and Paris in this00:14:53
perspective had made Niger's uranium00:14:55
its particular property while00:14:59
this good is a property of the00:15:02
Nigerien people therefore this proxy war00:15:04
that ECOWAS led00:15:07
exactly as Ukraine is waging a00:15:09
NATO proxy war against00:15:12
Russia this proxy war00:15:15
gave us the completely00:15:18
gloomy and unbelievable spectacle of one of the00:15:25
harsh sanctions look for example the products00:15:27
which are put under SAN00:15:29
and it is just like what00:15:32
the Western leaders are who manage00:15:35
and manipulate the co who has been manipulating00:15:37
ECOWAS since C for a long time they00:15:42
have taken the Western leaders of00:15:45
sanctions against the 'IRAC which affected00:15:48
the basic necessities, it00:15:50
was Saddam Hussein's IRAC, the00:15:53
basic necessities, the00:15:57
pharmaceutical products, the products which were00:16:00
of major interest, it showed us that00:16:03
these are people who have no heart they00:16:05
reproduced the same pattern in Niger00:16:09
by inciting the CDAO to take an embargo00:16:12
against products like00:16:16
pharmaceutical products, basic00:16:18
necessities and as they are great00:16:21
manipulators they did uh00:16:25
they did they did they created00:16:28
the tear by the United Nations system00:16:29
by suggesting that Niger00:16:32
was00:16:33
collapsing that now there are00:16:36
risks of humanitarian crisis in00:16:39
Niger fortunately it was without counting00:16:42
on the solidarity of countries like Mali00:16:45
countries like Burkina Faso countries00:16:48
like Guinea Conakri like00:16:49
Mauritania like00:16:51
Algeria which stole from Niger's resources00:16:55
and when you follow the speech00:16:57
of the Minister of00:16:59
Foreign Relations it is quite clear he00:17:04
even says in the hypothesis that he had to come and00:17:06
recover President Bazou he said00:17:09
these people had to think in00:17:11
two00:17:12
ways because either he was recovering a00:17:15
corpse or they were simply going to uh00:17:19
uh provoke something to00:17:21
justify their intervention so this00:17:24
embargo was useless because that00:17:26
was not going to free Bazou this embargo00:17:29
had no reason to exist because00:17:32
there were no demonstrations inside Niger00:17:34
against the new00:17:36
authorities this embargo was simply00:17:40
proof of the subjugation of the CDA00:17:43
or well of the subjugation of the CDAO00:17:45
to the interests of Paris and the00:17:51
European Union generated I will come back I will stay00:17:53
with you before we come back to00:17:55
uh the other guest Charlie Kenya who00:17:58
has already hello to us since he has00:18:00
already been presented by the realization00:18:02
hello Charlie kenier then Jonathan00:18:04
batenguené I would like to come back a little to00:18:06
the attitude the attitude of General Leal00:18:09
Mohamed uh uh during this forum for00:18:12
peace and security on the side of of of00:18:14
Togo he is a man uh uh uh uh00:18:18
let's come back a little to the signs even00:18:20
it's a man it seems who is a little00:18:21
disturbed uh uh who expresses here the00:18:25
problems of Niger in the face of experts I00:18:28
therefore ask the question of knowing uh00:18:30
what is 'they are waiting for the members00:18:32
of the CNSP uh members of this forum00:18:36
when they come uh uhh I would not say00:18:38
justify themselves when they come to00:18:39
expose the problems facing00:18:43
the uh uh Niger when he returns to00:18:45
the major concerns encountered as by00:18:48
Niger like the consequences of00:18:50
the CDAO sanctions like the00:18:52
consequences of the power cut00:18:54
in Nigeria when we all know uh what00:18:57
this could uh uh caused what00:18:59
it has already caused even Jonathan00:19:01
batengené is this not not00:19:03
perhaps uh how can I say give a little00:19:07
smile to those who00:19:09
really want to destabilize Niger00:19:11
while we were expecting a more00:19:13
firm man facing the experts of this forum00:19:16
for peace and security as00:19:18
did the Captain Ibrahim Traoré during00:19:21
uh uh uh the Meeting or the00:19:24
Russia-Africa summit Jonathan00:19:27
Batengene00:19:30
no come and present all these elements it is00:19:34
not a way of00:19:38
reassuring them that their sanctions or00:19:40
that the decisions which were00:19:42
taken have affected Nigeriens it is00:19:45
a form of00:19:46
protest at the international level00:19:50
the method of protest is a00:19:54
classic in matters of00:19:58
diplomatic relations between States when a00:20:01
State does not agree with a way00:20:04
of doing things of his partners he has the00:20:07
duty and he has the right to protest the00:20:10
minister has00:20:13
simply demonstrated the discontent00:20:16
of the Nigerien people he has come to express00:20:20
what the Nigerien street thinks what the00:20:23
Nigerien Lam d' thinks of everything that has00:20:26
been done but especially since he is a00:20:29
diplomat currently he is the boss00:20:31
of diplomacy he is in the process of00:20:35
presenting the point of view of the state of00:20:38
Niger or of the new00:20:40
Nigerien authorities on all the points00:20:43
which are problematic with CEDA in face00:20:47
he knows his00:20:48
side well imagine when he says that if he00:20:52
had first intervened00:20:53
militarily it is a joke he knows00:20:55
what is the effect that it arouses among00:20:58
his interlocutors you have seen the00:21:01
Nigeriens who are there uh the the the00:21:03
representative of Nigeria and carelessly00:21:06
ilberlu Berlu when he looks at him00:21:08
why because when he says that00:21:10
it's a joke and we know what00:21:12
the state of his armies is the representative of00:21:15
Nigeria is this What does this mean? This00:21:18
means that the Nigerian army is00:21:21
currently in tatters; it does not have the00:21:23
capacity to carry out a real00:21:25
operation outside its00:21:26
borders in the face of an army like that00:21:28
of Niger and especially a coalition like00:21:30
that of Niger. 'AES which was formed when he00:21:33
says it's a joke that there is no00:21:35
real way he knows what he is00:21:37
talking about because financially who is going to00:21:39
take care of the bill so he was in the00:21:44
process too to expose uh the point of00:21:48
view of the new00:21:50
Nigerien authorities as to what those00:21:52
consider to be a threat he00:21:55
wants to tell them if you thought you were00:21:58
threatening us we knew that this threat00:22:00
is on paper it does not scare00:22:04
anyone on our side we have00:22:07
never trembled in other words that's00:22:09
what he says but in a very00:22:11
poetic way he says00:22:14
very interesting things when he returns to00:22:17
the question of President Bazou and00:22:21
moreover it reminds us that yesterday we00:22:23
held the program there were00:22:24
questions about00:22:26
Bazou's custody or at least his placement in00:22:28
SUV residence when he leaves he says the00:22:33
worst case scenario is that00:22:35
President Bazou could have been could00:22:37
be executed but that means a lot00:22:41
he didn't say things like00:22:45
a soldier he said it in a00:22:47
very diplomatic way it means00:22:50
that there is a commando who is already00:22:52
assigned to the mission and that this00:22:55
commando only expects the H from the00:22:57
authorities00:22:58
so in his speech don't see the00:23:01
tone quite of a diplomat that00:23:05
adopts there is the soldier also who is00:23:09
speaking he says we00:23:12
know who are in front of00:23:14
we know our enemies when he00:23:17
says that France has deployed 500000:23:19
men in the00:23:21
Sahel and that there is no result00:23:24
but the representatives of France who00:23:27
are in the room must understand they00:23:29
must understand what that means00:23:31
it's another way of saying00:23:34
France is incompetent to fight00:23:36
against terrorists France no00:23:38
longer even has the right to come back and00:23:40
claim to want to fight against00:23:41
terrorism it's serious what he has00:23:45
he posed as a speech to the Omé we00:23:49
salute the authorities of the Omé who00:23:51
organized this forum even if uh in00:23:54
the Spirit we know that there was a00:23:57
desire00:23:58
to set a mandate for the transition of00:24:01
Niger because basically that was00:24:04
the idea we had to bring00:24:07
the different transitions held00:24:11
by the military in the bkina in Niger and00:24:13
in Mali00:24:16
directly stated uh that they are00:24:21
for the very short term they are for00:24:25
a passage of witnesses to the00:24:28
civil ac this is not what00:24:32
abounded in the exchanges with the00:24:35
various ministers of00:24:36
Foreign Affairs of this country we see that of00:24:39
Niger who tells us that if you are00:24:44
willing we have decided to 'act in00:24:48
3 years over 3 years this is our mandate but00:24:52
there will be a forum which will00:24:55
certainly decide to reduce this deadline to00:24:59
a much shorter period do00:25:02
not let yourself be seduced by this speech and00:25:04
take the option which satisfies the all00:25:07
of the participants because this00:25:09
forum could also lead to an00:25:12
extension of the mandate of the transition00:25:15
and this is possible in the standoff00:25:18
which has been opened even if this minister does00:25:21
not say it he has clearly shown to00:25:25
ECOWAS that we held you00:25:28
despite the unjust sanctions we00:25:29
are still standing we are we are00:25:32
holding the reindeers in name we are00:25:35
leading this00:25:37
transition we are going to break the00:25:40
terrorists who are in the sa this is the00:25:42
great message he sent he said00:25:44
we have 3 years to resolve this00:25:47
issue, specifying that the French00:25:49
who arrived with more than 5,00000:25:51
men were competent to00:25:53
do so, he is in the process of announcing the00:25:55
color and he says we have fixed three00:25:57
3 years but the forum will decide and well he00:26:01
means ECOWAS does not decide for00:26:05
Niger it is the Nigerien people the00:26:07
strong forces of Niger who will have the00:26:09
duty to decide on the true00:26:12
duration of the transition his00:26:15
speech leaves one suspecting that these00:26:19
authorities will not will never00:26:23
give in to international pressure his00:26:26
speech is a speech from Permit00:26:28
said had a fairly uh quite flexible tone00:26:32
but which reflects the determination of the00:26:36
authorities of the new authorities of00:26:37
niam to lead this transition without suffering00:26:41
or without giving in to the to00:26:48
international pressure uh take a trip to00:26:51
the other side of Yaoundé to take00:26:54
Charlie Kenier I will first say uh00:26:57
uh welcome here Charlie Kenier00:27:00
is not online we will take00:27:03
Issa dwara who is with us I00:27:06
also say hello to Nestor podassé who00:27:09
is with us this morning then Issa00:27:12
Diawara we when the Minister of State00:27:17
the Minister of the Interior00:27:19
Mohamed uh00:27:21
Mohamed asks that we must sit down00:27:25
to discuss in order to move forward he00:27:27
also says he specifies that the power00:27:30
does not is not a question of friendship00:27:33
between the heads of state when do00:27:36
you say in relation to this00:27:40
declaration hello hello to all hello00:27:45
I have to my brother to my brothers Jonathan00:27:47
batengené Charli Ken and hello to00:27:50
you- even and to the entire00:27:52
Pan-African galaxy indeed uh Mr.00:27:55
journalists when you speak there00:27:57
was perhaps a little care here00:28:00
if you can rephrase00:28:02
your question again it will give me great00:28:04
pleasure here I was saying00:28:06
that Mohamed Touba who says who00:28:10
asks he that we must sit down the00:28:12
people to sit down to discuss and and00:28:16
in order to move forward but he also says that00:28:19
power is not a question00:28:21
of friendship between heads of state what do00:28:23
you say in relation to this00:28:26
declaration, it is very logical, it is00:28:28
very logical, it is that we are expecting00:28:32
pan-African heads of state today who are leading00:28:34
this fight for the liberation of00:28:37
Africa and to get Africa out of00:28:39
course from the clutches and slavery and00:28:42
colonization not being without knowing00:28:44
no need to remind us and that00:28:46
slavery still continues all the00:28:49
speeches that have to make us00:28:51
move from one stage from slavery to00:28:53
colonization it's the same thing00:28:55
what is a slave is he who does00:28:56
not have his own means he who has 1 meter00:28:58
and the slave if he has one meter when you00:29:01
are a state also under colonization00:29:03
of course you have a master and when00:29:05
you even pass into this famous00:29:06
democracy imposed by the West at00:29:09
high speed there again you have00:29:11
masters you know as you see00:29:13
how some rush to00:29:15
go to war against a famous00:29:16
democracy in Niger democracy is00:29:19
a value which must env and not which00:29:21
must be imposed of course by the noise of the00:29:23
trees we observe democracy00:29:26
almost everywhere everything we see in00:29:27
the country where there is the democracy family00:29:29
the people are very indebted yet00:29:31
we other Africans did00:29:33
not know this story00:29:34
of indebtedness in our kingdoms in our00:29:37
empires we were people of course00:29:38
who prospered from their00:29:40
own funds but since we00:29:42
met the Western colonists of course00:29:45
we we know these stories00:29:46
of debt and others and to respond00:29:49
directly and to confirm the words00:29:51
of the minister of course it is time that00:29:53
we as our leaders perhaps00:29:55
pan-African if they have already understood so much the00:29:58
better if those who have not understood it00:30:00
try to understand that between00:30:01
States there are questions of interest in the00:30:04
balance of power uh the Westerners00:30:07
we can say everything to France but00:30:09
when France comes to activate00:30:11
certain in any case had leaders here in00:30:14
Africa say that we must go and wage the00:30:16
uranium war in Niger which00:30:18
should be camouflaged as a war for00:30:20
democracy but it is for the interests00:30:22
of France's multinationals, that00:30:25
is very clear but we00:30:26
Africans what are our interests uh00:30:29
relations between States it is00:30:31
not a question of friendship perhaps00:30:33
between President Putin and Erdogan00:30:35
it is perhaps one more point it is00:30:37
a downright question of interest you00:30:39
will see that Putin Erdogan opposes00:30:42
on certain terrain at the level of00:30:44
Syria but you go to the level of00:30:46
Ukraine but you will see them00:30:48
find themselves on other terrain that is00:30:51
it is very logical and the same uh00:30:54
erect certain certain00:30:56
observation posts in level of Syria but00:30:58
yet these are the two which are00:30:59
fought at the level of Libya here so00:31:02
it is not a question of person it is00:31:04
of course a state question and the00:31:07
heads of state of course must00:31:09
really rise to this level there are no00:31:11
feelings and the heads of state who00:31:13
really want to see clean hands you00:31:15
really want to be how are we going to say you can00:31:18
become an imam or a priest I do00:31:20
n't know my father Nabé go to a00:31:22
church but you are not fit to lead00:31:25
a country lead a country that means00:31:27
what does France do if we00:31:29
Africans can also go and00:31:31
deprive the West for our interests00:31:33
but why not do it there is no00:31:35
question to think that yes after death00:31:37
I no when you lead it is the00:31:39
interests of the people it is like when you00:31:41
are head of the family you are not going to00:31:42
let your children die in fact you00:31:44
will use all means of course00:31:46
to remember for the needs of V of your00:31:48
family of course it is about the methods00:31:50
a little much more d so the heads00:31:52
of state must in reality uh get out of00:31:55
certain relationships so saint dran ara00:31:58
is our elder he is our big brother00:32:00
we must not be behave like him no00:32:03
if your eldest tries to overthrow you00:32:05
what do you do but you00:32:07
overthrow him three times if your eldest00:32:09
destabilizes you he ceases to be an elder00:32:11
in fact you know you can have a00:32:13
child but in reality it is not00:32:15
your child you did it00:32:16
biologically but it is on the00:32:18
ideological level it is not your child00:32:20
or on the religious level on the00:32:22
social level it has nothing to do with you it00:32:23
has become a thief in any case00:32:25
uh we must get out of00:32:28
emotional relations of course between States00:32:30
and between heads of state between00:32:32
ministers we must go beyond these00:32:34
relations it is time to understand to00:32:36
know how to give real kicks to00:32:38
certain leaders without that we are not going to00:32:40
move forward Macron kicks you00:32:42
you have to give 10 kicks you00:32:44
have to get away from certain in any case00:32:46
pan-African notions that people like00:32:49
Ouatara the Mackyall have00:32:51
behavior that does not fit with the00:32:52
behavior of the African we have to00:32:54
re-educate them in the African way that is to say00:32:56
what we have to get them out of there but00:32:58
I'm sorry every time it's00:33:01
countries like Mali Burkina and I do00:33:04
n't know who that is Niger we all create00:33:08
attempts at destabilization on the00:33:09
part of Alassan Attara on the part of00:33:12
Tinubou but why we00:33:14
cannot destabilize them do they have the monopoly00:33:17
on destabilization the Ordentals00:33:19
do not have the monopoly on violence and00:33:21
we must that we say we have to00:33:25
cut the iron so that things00:33:28
get better and my what she said00:33:30
we have to have the powers stop the00:33:32
powers we can't be there to tell our00:33:34
dead and it doesn't count their deaths but00:33:36
it 'life isn't like that, it's not on one00:33:38
side and evil shouldn't be on just00:33:40
one side and good shouldn't be00:33:43
on just one side. I'm00:33:45
totally committed to the policy of00:33:46
reciprocity and in a policy of a00:33:49
much broader vision if we00:33:51
want to have this peace I see the00:33:53
peace forum we really want00:33:55
to have this peace establish this peace but00:33:57
of course it is to prepare together the00:34:00
subbrressau of this peace it must not00:34:02
be speeches simply during the00:34:03
forums and others, let's00:34:06
really work, let's put the tools of00:34:08
this peace and the first tools of00:34:09
this peace are our armies but did00:34:13
well to sign a charter which says of00:34:15
course which is supported a little when you see it it00:34:18
's a bit like the model of the00:34:19
NATO charter, that is to say you00:34:21
attack one AS country, you are00:34:23
attacked all three countries, it00:34:25
is this charter that we must act on.00:34:27
other African countries00:34:29
other African countries should come and00:34:31
hold on to this because if you are00:34:33
already in this you are out of your head we00:34:35
can no longer attack you you are attacking to00:34:37
make war on all three countries00:34:39
all three countries that is to say Mali00:34:41
Brookn Niger I do not see00:34:43
why Guinea has not yet00:34:46
joined why Togo has not yet00:34:47
joined we must join this charter00:34:50
it is for me it is the best way00:34:51
of being at the ABU of course of the aggression00:34:53
of France especially since the charter takes00:34:55
into account even the questions of00:34:57
rebellion which which which creates the00:34:59
rebels for me there are no00:35:00
rebels the rebels are00:35:01
terrorists but who creates all these00:35:03
rebels who we say are00:35:05
separatists who we say to be I do00:35:07
n't know who and with a religious connotation00:35:09
that we are going to give to what00:35:11
economic connotation but who creates all these00:35:13
rebellions but it's the same France00:35:15
but if d av for once in Africa we00:35:17
have three states which say that even the00:35:20
smallest rebels that may00:35:22
exist in this country we will00:35:24
combine our efforts to fight it00:35:26
together but it is a way of saying ad00:35:28
God the rebellion in Africa their famous00:35:30
coup famous anti force that they wanted to00:35:33
put in place but that's what it is00:35:34
in fact and any head of state who00:35:37
joins this protects you from a coup00:35:39
d'état because whoever does anything00:35:41
for the interests of France the00:35:43
three countries will combine their efforts00:35:45
to restore the president to power00:35:47
here is what we are in and I00:35:49
think who wants peace prepares for war00:35:51
the first tool of peace in Africa00:35:53
c 'is developing our armies making00:35:55
our weapons work00:35:57
jointly there is no point in everyone00:36:00
fighting separately we have the00:36:03
same aggressors we have the same00:36:06
terrorists we have the same00:36:08
problems and wanting to defend ourselves00:36:11
unilaterally is an error00:36:14
geostrategic we must defend ourselves00:36:16
in a common way in a collective way00:36:20
because what attacks us00:36:21
attacks us in a collective way it is time00:36:24
that we understand this and I think00:36:25
that this uh is in our interest I00:36:28
thank you thank you Issa Diawara Nestor00:36:33
uh podassé uh when we when we00:36:38
listen to Issa Diawara and uh00:36:42
maybe before taking there is00:36:44
information that came out a00:36:45
few minutes ago00:36:47
concerning the French soldiers who00:36:48
began to leave Niger for00:36:51
Chad on first the first contingent00:36:53
here is of French soldiers uh who00:36:56
left uh Niger this uh00:36:59
uh 10 days ago for Chad has therefore00:37:01
arrived uh and on that side he is00:37:04
therefore preparing to do the aerial rotations00:37:07
so for the departure from Chad for of00:37:09
course uh France so this is00:37:11
the information that had to be given that00:37:13
the French soldiers expelled from Niger00:37:16
uh are already starting to arrive in waves00:37:19
from the side of Chad and from there they will00:37:21
therefore take the flight uh for Paris is a question00:37:24
of liberating uh here is Niger as00:37:27
announced a few days ago er00:37:30
ti ok uh thank you this is information00:37:33
that we will come back to this uh I00:37:37
was telling Nestor00:37:39
podassé today we can salute this00:37:42
forum of peace and security of Omé00:37:45
which aims in particular to work on00:37:50
the transition in a peaceful manner in00:37:52
African countries but we must00:37:55
also uh understand that the00:37:57
Africans have understood that the solutions00:38:00
for these crises must be found00:38:03
at00:38:04
the interior of the respective countries as we00:38:07
are used to saying eh that00:38:09
dirty laundry is washed in the family00:38:14
yes hello Africa méia hello to my00:38:17
canelists hello to you my dear00:38:20
journalist Michel wi and you I do00:38:23
n't remember your name first of all I think that you00:38:25
will remember I also salute the00:38:27
CEO of Africa Mia who has the inspiration00:38:31
a very good inspiration to put00:38:33
liberation of combat Africa thank you to the00:38:37
technical00:38:39
program00:38:41
mone is on the other side I salute all00:38:45
the viewers from afriia who are00:38:47
currently connected on the00:38:50
Facebook YouTube page and on television00:38:53
so to answer your question00:38:55
it is our elders have already said it00:38:59
sing repeat but unfortunately00:39:01
they had bad successors00:39:03
Africa had bad sons and it is00:39:06
this infernal cycle of bad sons which00:39:08
is coming to an end and00:39:10
now the URE of Vereau which is going so00:39:12
things are going quickly is in the process of00:39:15
changing things thanks to an00:39:17
uninhibited youth thanks to a00:39:19
determined youth thanks to a00:39:22
committed youth I remember very well that at the00:39:25
very beginning in the years independence00:39:28
as we like to say independence in00:39:30
quotation marks which was never a real00:39:31
independence there00:39:35
hadouré from Guinea modib from Mali00:39:40
Daniel W Kali etaz Boni from Burkina Faso00:39:44
Patrice lbumba from the00:39:48
rdcobé of Cameroon there are so many00:39:51
but I limit myself there all these00:39:53
fought but they were always00:39:56
betrayed by the manipulation of00:40:00
the imperialist those who colonized us00:40:02
by force some time00:40:05
later there there were others who tried00:40:06
to emerge such as uh uh uh uh Thomas00:40:12
Sankara it didn't work Laurent Gambo00:40:15
from the Ivory Coast it didn't work00:40:17
because there was no Africa meia in00:40:19
his time there was no Facebook00:40:21
there was no YouTube but thanks to00:40:24
new technology today00:40:26
thanks to Afric méia thanks to Facebook00:40:30
YouTube and others we youth00:40:32
today who do not have the right to00:40:34
speak in our media imperialists who00:40:36
are internal in our countries we00:40:38
can speak to Afrique méia to00:40:40
enlighten our young comrades we00:40:42
can express ourselves through00:40:44
Facebook YouTube to express our00:40:46
vision and this is what gave the00:40:49
courage if you see very well to00:40:53
the Malian army in 2020 when the00:40:55
population was exacerbated could no00:40:59
longer bear to take their00:41:01
responsibility and depose the despot00:41:04
Ibrahim Bouakar who was this will again00:41:06
re-motivate the youth at the level of Israel00:41:10
in particular at the FO strand to return to the00:41:12
dance and to rush to tell caboré you are00:41:15
heading towards the new00:41:16
Genesse otherwise you will be deposed which00:41:19
will be done by soldiers on January 2400:41:22
later but this will prove that the one00:41:24
who declared himself revolutionary will rather00:41:27
arrive to be contrary and the youth00:41:29
will still continue to push until00:41:31
Ibrahim Traoré who is the00:41:33
legitimate heir of Thomas Sankara comes to00:41:36
power the same pressure will continue00:41:38
until the00:41:40
Nigerien generals take their00:41:42
responsibility to do the will of the00:41:45
people and they have come to power and00:41:47
this will give birth with the Alliance of the00:41:49
States of Israel which is very clear an00:41:52
endogenous African solution which will end up00:41:55
finer with according to the means of these00:41:58
three states they will support each other until00:42:02
going into several levels so00:42:04
today this forum which is being held in Lomé00:42:07
I find that there are certain people00:42:08
who are in a bad position to participate in this00:42:10
forum because Africa since00:42:12
supposedly independent in the00:42:17
60s is a problem of connection with00:42:22
with uh Nestor podassé we are going to00:42:26
return to Yaoundé00:42:28
with Charlie kenier who is who is with00:42:31
us so Charlie we followed this00:42:36
forum uh on peace and security which00:42:39
was held at the omé as I said00:42:42
again to uh work and see00:42:45
how the African peoples those who00:42:47
are in crisis situation must manage00:42:51
their crisis internally even if these00:42:54
countries must request00:42:57
support from the00:42:58
international community but as00:43:00
Mohamed said earlier Mohamed TBA without00:43:05
asking for support from the00:43:07
international community but refusing00:43:21
sanctions ilopen sonro open your00:43:23
microphone00:43:25
chare open your microphone Charlie00:43:33
Kenet hello it's good there you follow me00:43:39
go ahead I said earlier that I salute00:43:42
your modest person I salute00:43:45
also the very charming lady who00:43:48
assists you in the person of Christel00:43:51
wandi I greet my dear cebatants00:43:55
Jonathan00:43:57
the00:43:58
generalwara I greet our technicians and00:44:01
I greet our billions of00:44:03
viewers well it must already be said00:44:06
concerning the forum on peace and00:44:08
security which is taking place is ten who is standing there00:44:12
uh not having really read about that00:44:15
because I have I00:44:16
really haven't documented what is being00:44:19
done there uh I'm00:44:21
not going to go witch hunting I'm00:44:22
not going to do00:44:23
the Inquisition but I think that there are00:44:26
two things that should00:44:27
interest us about this summit and the first00:44:29
is who is financing the summit because00:44:32
it is important to always know who is00:44:33
financing such a summit and the second of the00:44:36
things are what are the objectives of the00:44:37
summit because uh for a very00:44:40
long time we spent uh the time if00:44:43
you allow me the repetition putting00:44:45
Africans to sleep with such00:44:46
initiatives uh the solution to the African problem will00:44:51
certainly not be found in this type summit00:44:53
really I say it very humbly it is00:44:55
certainly not in this type of summit00:44:58
because the problems of Africans00:44:59
are known we know them and those00:45:03
who create these problems00:45:04
know them it is important to say it00:45:06
uh when we know that 'as we00:45:09
speak uh international law has00:45:13
enshrined CQ countries I mean CQ countries which00:45:16
sit on the United Nations Security Council00:45:17
with a troit of calf to these00:45:20
countriesl uh we have00:45:23
entrusted the management of peace and00:45:26
security to on the international scale,00:45:27
that is to say that the00:45:30
United Nations Security Council which is the00:45:31
supreme decision-making body of this00:45:33
supranational organization has00:45:38
within it five countries which have been00:45:44
entrusted with the world that is to say00:45:48
that through uh the adventures of00:45:51
the history of the world which made of in00:45:55
quotation marks the victors uh of the00:45:57
Second World War they00:45:59
confided in each other it is mux d'Er here they00:46:02
confided in each other uh uh uh uh the right to00:46:05
guarantee peace and security on00:46:07
an international scale but uh the00:46:10
only problem in this00:46:13
uh in this reality is that00:46:16
you will see that the largest Simp uh00:46:19
uh producers and merchants from AM to on00:46:21
the international scale are the same ones00:46:23
who sit on the00:46:25
United Nations Security Council, that is to say the five00:46:27
people who have made the00:46:31
production and sale of arms a00:46:33
pillar of their economy are the same ones00:46:36
who sit in the Security Council,00:46:37
that is to say that it is the same people who00:46:39
have granted themselves the right to guarantee00:46:42
peace and security on an00:46:44
international scale; it is the same people00:46:45
today who are the largest00:46:47
producers and dealers of arms in00:46:48
on an international scale and when we00:46:50
know very well that it is these00:46:52
industrial military lobbying which maintains00:46:55
situations of crisis and insecurity00:46:56
on an international scale, that poses a00:46:58
problem, that poses a problem because00:47:00
how can those who say they guarantee peace00:47:02
and security on an internal scale are00:47:04
the same people today who are worried about a00:47:06
crisis of insecurity and have had00:47:10
trouble all over the planet,00:47:13
this leads us Africans to00:47:15
truly understand are these00:47:17
same people who precisely multiplied00:47:19
this kind of summit you have uh the summit00:47:22
on peace security was held00:47:23
recently in Paris you have the summit00:47:26
on defense you have you have00:47:28
you have summits like that in point00:47:29
finished which are also financed by them00:47:32
which give a semblance, I mean, which00:47:34
gives a semblance of assistance and00:47:37
solidarity vis-à-vis the other States00:47:40
precisely which suffer from this00:47:42
situation of insecurity that they themselves00:47:44
created, it gives this semblance00:47:46
of assistance and of solidarity with a00:47:49
feeling of dismissal precisely of the00:47:52
root cause of this problem because it00:47:54
must be said very clearly it is they00:47:56
who are the cause of the problem of C the00:47:59
root cause of these problems so when00:48:01
I have finished saying it I therefore come back to the00:48:03
African States, is this really a00:48:05
sleep there uh entering into the la la la00:48:09
in the perspective precisely uh of this00:48:13
type of summit which we are00:48:15
presented at the international scale00:48:16
of which we know well the who finances who00:48:19
gives the impression uh of truly00:48:21
fighting an evil that they have created00:48:23
while in reality it is smoke00:48:26
and mirrors it is smoke and mirrors it is00:48:27
simply likely to put the States to sleep00:48:30
and to continue their dirty maneuvers that00:48:31
is the first question and therefore00:48:33
the second question is to00:48:35
understand what are the objectives of00:48:37
this sleep uh is this sleep00:48:39
aimed at challenging African States00:48:42
on the different issues of the moment because00:48:45
that is the problem what are the00:48:46
issues of the moment multiply by sleep00:48:48
but if you do not resolve it the00:48:50
problems internally which consists of what00:48:52
General Isa Jawara had just said00:48:54
earlier uh the problems of peace00:48:56
and security in Africa these are the00:48:58
problems mainly of00:49:00
restructuring of our armies, that is to say00:49:02
that this is where we must start, we00:49:03
have been told too much nonsense about00:49:05
democracy and many other things, no,00:49:07
I often like to say it, there is no00:49:10
development plan, there is no 'there is no00:49:12
public development policy that00:49:14
you can carry out in an00:49:16
insecure geographical space, that is to say in00:49:17
a geographical space over which you do00:49:19
not have territorial control and00:49:21
air control, it is impossible it is00:49:23
impossible or The troubled game that these00:49:26
people have achieved in Africa is00:49:28
that they have not only prevented our00:49:31
armies from truly00:49:32
professionalizing but they have also00:49:34
prevented our armies from acquiring the00:49:36
necessary means to ensure the defense of00:49:39
the integrity of our national territories00:49:41
and in this today you understand very00:49:44
well that states for example like00:49:45
Burkina Faso which when it wants to equip itself00:49:48
with the necessary means to respond to the00:49:50
security challenges that the country is experiencing, are00:49:53
precisely prevented from acquiring these00:49:54
means. I believe that the00:49:56
Bkinabé officials once again reminded us that it was enough and00:49:59
therefore when you are aware of this00:50:01
reality you understand that the challenges00:50:02
which African States impose on themselves contribute00:50:05
to two things firstly before00:50:07
talking to us about democracy before00:50:09
talking to us about elections before talking to us00:50:10
about human rights we must strengthen00:50:12
our armies and you see that this has been my00:50:14
fight for almost 8 years we must00:50:16
restructure the African armies we00:50:18
must make them professional we must00:50:19
make them effective we must make them00:50:21
efficient it must return uh the00:50:24
power00:50:26
you understand a little that uh don don00:50:29
should enjoy a national army to00:50:31
precisely maintain uh to precisely00:50:35
fulfill its its its duty Galen00:50:37
who contributes to three things security00:50:40
the defense and the integrity of the00:50:42
national territory securing of00:50:44
goods and people and the protection00:50:45
and defense of the institutions of the00:50:46
Republic today in Africa you00:50:48
will see that it only takes a little while00:50:50
for somewhat well-00:50:53
organized rebellions to appear somewhere in00:50:55
our territories and they manage to put00:50:57
in place roads our states our armies and00:50:59
that poses a problem we must make our00:51:00
armies strong we must uh00:51:02
professionalize them we must give them the00:51:04
tools precisely to uh of of the the the the00:51:06
the tools00:51:09
to precisely mant the00:51:11
missions which are the theirs and finally we00:51:13
must give the means to these armies. I am00:51:15
taking advantage here to quote a former boss00:51:17
of French intelligence. You00:51:19
circulated a video here recently where we00:51:21
saw very clearly Alen July00:51:23
recalling to what extent the problems00:51:25
of insecurity which serve in Africa,00:51:27
which generally revolves around one00:51:29
thing, the terrorist threat was00:51:31
only a tiny part, that is to say, it00:51:34
represented only a tiny part of our00:51:36
problems because Al j clarifies by00:51:38
saying that it is enough to give the00:51:40
means to our armies themselves sorry00:51:42
themselves they will solve the00:51:43
problem and so if we organize this kind00:51:45
of summit to produce literature00:51:47
to say how00:51:49
uh insecurity prevents Africa from00:51:52
developing to say how00:51:53
insecurity has gone up and down It's00:51:55
absolutely useless because it doesn't help00:51:57
Africa. What will help00:51:59
Africa is not only that00:52:01
African States gain freedom00:52:03
and total sovereignty capable of00:52:05
strengthening the capabilities of their armed forces.00:52:07
second thing is that within the00:52:09
framework of strategic partnerships that00:52:11
African States00:52:13
will link with other powers on00:52:15
an international scale that the means00:52:17
are given to them to truly00:52:19
combat the problems of insecurity and00:52:21
the third thing is is that00:52:23
common dynamics in Africa00:52:24
dynamics could come together to00:52:27
strengthen security mechanisms in00:52:29
Africa and so if I finish I take a00:52:32
very simple case you will see that Mali00:52:34
today is in the process of respecting00:52:36
its conditionalities firstly they00:52:38
have were able to strengthen their national army00:52:40
on the internal level secondly you00:52:43
saw that the necessary means uh00:52:45
through the strategic partnerships00:52:46
that they signed for example with the00:52:48
federations the Russian Federation uh00:52:50
allowed them precisely to allow00:52:52
their army to rise in power and00:52:53
thirdly within a00:52:55
collective alliance Mali understood that it was00:52:58
important in the face of a common problem to00:53:00
reflect on a common response,00:53:03
precisely the establishment of the alliance00:53:05
of salt states, this is where 'we00:53:07
must go then if this summit was00:53:09
organized precisely to say that this is00:53:11
the solution to the problems of insecurity in00:53:13
Africa by moving on internally00:53:15
to the strengthening of the armies to the00:53:17
signing of a set of of of of of of of of of of00:53:20
of of okay uh uh which will00:53:22
precisely strengthen uh the00:53:25
operational and tactical capabilities of our armies00:53:27
and finally uh uh00:53:31
the alliance within a cooperation00:53:34
within a military alliance to00:53:35
precisely respond to this00:53:38
common threat if this summit was organized00:53:40
precisely to respond to these problems,00:53:42
I think it's a good thing if this is00:53:44
not the case and we want to stay00:53:45
in the literature to which we have accustomed00:53:46
African States personally to00:53:48
for me it's just powder it's useless00:53:50
because I still insist the problems00:53:52
of insecurity in Africa00:53:53
represent a00:53:55
very00:53:57
small part of our real problems00:53:59
in Africa and a problem which is easy00:54:01
to solve I Well, that's easy, we do00:54:02
n't need to organize a forum to00:54:04
resolve the problems of insecurity in00:54:05
Africa, we know them and we know00:54:06
how to do it, so if this summit is00:54:08
in this perspective, it's a good00:54:10
thing, but if it's 'is to make00:54:11
literature and well reassure you00:54:13
that uh we should know who00:54:16
are behind those who finance this00:54:17
story to understand that we are00:54:19
still falling asleep no00:54:21
the African States know what it is00:54:23
uh what which is imposed on them it goes through00:54:26
the liberation of our states it goes through00:54:27
the affirmation of our sovereignties the00:54:29
strengthening of our capacities the00:54:31
strengthening the professionalization of00:54:32
our internal armies the strengthening of00:54:34
our operational and00:54:36
tactical capacities and finally uh uh uh uh the00:54:39
strengthening of of of our00:54:41
military cooperation within00:54:42
strategic alliances likely to00:54:44
respond uh in a common way00:54:46
collectively to the problems uh that we00:54:51
all suffer as I come back I come back to you00:54:54
concerning uh uh uh this forum of peace00:54:57
and of security with of course the00:55:00
multiple attempts whether by the00:55:02
CDAO or even foreign powers to00:55:06
want at all costs and at all costs00:55:08
to reinstall Mohamed Bazou from his00:55:11
position we therefore followed General00:55:13
Tumba affirmed that it would therefore be00:55:15
impossible otherwise it would be the body00:55:17
of Mohamed Bazou that they00:55:20
will therefore recover so we00:55:23
still come back to the first00:55:25
mission of this of the CNSP which was00:55:29
that of combating terrorism but00:55:32
for the moment we are still here talking00:55:34
uhh about Mohamed Bazou and yet he is00:55:37
a president uh uh deposed Issa to Issa00:55:41
Issa Djawara what should we really00:55:43
expect I said earlier from00:55:46
this forum on peace and of course00:55:49
organized security on the side of Togo and00:55:52
who saw the presence of the Minister of Arts00:55:55
and the Interior the GAL00:55:57
there Mohamed Issa Issa dwara00:56:05
ok thank you very much madam you know I00:56:08
will tell you one thing why is00:56:09
always at the Mohamed bas stadium when00:56:11
we when the people take power there00:56:14
first thing is to00:56:15
first establish stability of power or with00:56:19
the Mohamed BO file what is00:56:20
happening uh we have put a thorn in the00:56:23
feet of course of the CNSP that is to say what00:56:26
we brings you a whole arsenal of00:56:27
sanctions 70% of Niger's electricity00:56:31
comes from Nigeria so we cut off on00:56:34
this side when we cut off00:56:35
your electricity we even try to prevent00:56:37
countries from functioning even00:56:39
hospitals can be reached so there00:56:42
there are other emergencies that need to be00:56:44
managed uh we make you cut off we00:56:47
make you block all your money your00:56:49
own funds at the level of all the00:56:51
banks to prevent you from00:56:53
using it to fight torism when00:56:56
you are told that the 'The West supports00:56:57
Toristism in reality here is one of the00:56:59
key proofs because to fight the Torists00:57:03
you would need00:57:05
significant financial means which to find00:57:07
certain material when you are frozen00:57:10
all your funds we prevent you in a00:57:13
way from fighting the Torists therefore00:57:16
it's helping the tists to ricochet those00:57:19
that they are doing so we00:57:20
end up with this question from Mohamed00:57:22
Bazou but this is where I am going to ask00:57:25
the authorities of Niger to00:57:27
accelerate the pace we must not go00:57:30
at the pace of the West we must not00:57:32
remain pe- on an agenda somewhat00:57:34
remote-controlled by the West we must not00:57:37
wait for this lifting of sanctions the00:57:40
TR countries Mali B Niger no00:57:43
excuse to still remain in the CFA it00:57:47
should already be an opportunity to leave00:57:51
the CFA in the banks of the co and of00:57:55
course to type a currency specific to these three00:57:57
countries take your CPA which you will00:58:00
confiscate there we have00:58:02
strategic partners who can00:58:04
help us in the creation of 'a currency and00:58:06
of course in its00:58:08
operationalization these are00:58:10
emergencies towards which we should00:58:12
go otherwise with the summer when if Niger00:58:14
remains to go it is not of course with00:58:17
the State that could play Mali alone00:58:19
d agreement with Burkina it was00:58:21
not easy but today there are three of us00:58:23
and on the plan here we are00:58:26
about half of course of the CDAO00:58:29
there is no more hesitation for me we00:58:31
must go towards that instead of dwelling00:58:34
on certain questions Charl Ken00:58:36
well said security questions we do00:58:39
n't even need to bang drum and Tam00:58:42
around these things the problem is00:58:44
known the attacker is known the00:58:47
solutions are known but it there is no one00:58:49
more blind than the one who cannot00:58:51
see, you simply have to have the00:58:53
courage, the will for politics to00:58:55
put certain things into perspective with00:58:57
regard to the Bazou question in reality00:58:59
it is a thorn that we have slipped under the00:59:02
developing countries in any case between the feet of the CP and00:59:06
this question is all the more00:59:07
crucial since at present President00:59:10
Abdah Tiani has not taken the oath it is00:59:13
unacceptable why he is not taking the00:59:15
oath we do not need a00:59:17
resignation of Bazou it's time for00:59:20
France is it Ali Bongo on the side of00:59:23
Gabon we waited for his resignation so that00:59:26
his replacement there the general there lends00:59:28
serenely yet his replacement also00:59:30
it's general it's the head of the00:59:31
presidential secretary there we don't talk about it00:59:34
France is behind we don't say00:59:36
a word but when France is not00:59:38
behind because a coup d'état that's what00:59:40
it is for France in that there is no there is00:59:42
no sanction there is no00:59:44
conviction as in Gabon as in00:59:46
Chad as almost everywhere either it is00:59:48
against the interests of France and for00:59:50
Africa as is the case in Mali00:59:53
in Burkina in the Niger and there we should00:59:56
call call the famous the famous00:59:59
international community which in reality01:00:01
does not exist it is only an01:00:04
imperialist posture the famous01:00:06
international community which elected an01:00:08
international community the rest of us are01:00:10
what community we are01:00:12
village communities01:00:14
local community we are which community01:00:16
of asseka it is not true this01:00:18
story of international community and01:00:20
you have also given01:00:21
information that the French soldiers01:00:23
who remained on the side of Chad will01:00:26
begin an air rotation and on01:00:28
Paris madam I tell you that the01:00:32
French militants will not go to Paris, it's01:00:34
lies, they will put a few people01:00:37
on the plane so as not to create an01:00:39
internal crisis in Chad, they will pretend01:00:42
to go and make a U-turn in Paris, but01:00:45
I'm telling you if they are not reinforced01:00:47
in Chad, no one will have a01:00:49
MO soldier in Chad, it's01:00:52
media propaganda from the West, they01:00:54
want people to communicate about it,01:00:56
you know when the West01:00:58
shows you its hand left01:01:00
always take the right hand everything that01:01:02
the West tells you is always to its01:01:04
advantage and never to your advantage and01:01:06
we other Pan-African analysts01:01:09
will of course have to live up to it01:01:13
in any case and to counter01:01:15
these media lies from the West01:01:18
Niger is today unfortunately at01:01:20
a stage of Mr. Mohamed Bazou because01:01:23
it is wanted it is work it is01:01:26
maintained the first challenge of Niger is to01:01:29
pass the CAP of Bazou they do not do not have to01:01:31
fear much from terrorism01:01:33
today why because all the01:01:35
terrorists from Israel have met again01:01:37
in the region of Kidal in01:01:39
Mali where we confronted them at the01:01:42
level of office you know that at the level01:01:44
of fice that you see in Ukraine or during01:01:46
the two world wars what we01:01:48
call the easy slicers people01:01:50
who crisis false slicers01:01:52
everywhere they hide inside it's not easy to01:01:54
wait for them even with the help of the planes01:01:56
that's what that they did around the01:01:58
localities of all the towns of Kidal01:02:00
and unfortunately fortunately they are being01:02:03
destroyed destroyed all01:02:05
these ditches they had dug tunnels01:02:07
the rebels the tourists01:02:09
called they have arranged to meet all01:02:12
at the level of the desert of Mali it is there01:02:14
which is the real final battle this day01:02:16
it is there that we are01:02:18
crushing them because the most01:02:20
ardent desire was to allow all these01:02:22
tourists to gather in one01:02:24
place because to disperse it was01:02:27
not easy to fight them you will01:02:28
see that even the center of ma01:02:29
today things are fecal even01:02:31
if we have information that 20001:02:34
soldiers 200 French instructors01:02:37
arrived from the side of 43rd Bima in01:02:40
Abidjan and to train more01:02:43
tourists who need it and to01:02:45
try to deploy them in southern01:02:47
Mali from the bkina to force our01:02:50
armies to bring back their numbers01:02:52
to defend of course the hundred at the01:02:55
level of bomoko at the level from wagadouou01:02:57
we are telling France to do better01:02:59
otherwise this information is already01:03:01
known we already have this information01:03:03
and that is already the measures are already01:03:05
taken so it is already a failure on this01:03:07
side and what is needed in this regard which01:03:10
concerns the terrorist war that the three01:03:12
countries must unite their efforts and I01:03:15
will also advise the chief of01:03:18
staff of the three countries01:03:21
that we must put in place a01:03:23
rapid invention force we have seen an01:03:26
attempt at destabilization in Burkina01:03:28
a force which can arrive in 30 minutes01:03:31
on the ground commandos which will be01:03:33
parachuted quickly you know we01:03:36
can never fight the West for01:03:38
you if you do not put a01:03:40
solid dissuasion in France in front to create01:03:43
this alliance it's is a good01:03:46
thing it is a first part of01:03:48
disasion the second thing is01:03:51
to create a joint general staff for these three01:03:54
countries and the general staff whose01:03:57
first mission is to protect the01:03:59
institutions of these three countries second01:04:02
mission to eradicate torism in01:04:05
the space of these three countries and I during01:04:08
this Lomé forum what I would have01:04:11
liked from Burkina, Mali,01:04:14
Niger is to sell, to01:04:17
actually do the real marketing of the IS01:04:21
to reassure the other African states of01:04:24
the usefulness of joining this alliance if01:04:27
you do not want the01:04:28
paper tiger which is France to be able to01:04:31
bite you or reach you join this01:04:34
alliance if France sends anyone01:04:37
against you we will intervene01:04:39
and take you out of Griff of this aggressor01:04:43
if you do not do this if you01:04:45
think that your security will be between them01:04:48
in any case in a01:04:50
colonialist collaboration with01:04:53
France tell yourself that you are wrong01:04:56
France end up01:04:57
getting rid of you they will did it with01:05:00
BL Compauré they did it with Ali01:05:02
Bongo they will do it with Alassin01:05:05
Draman Ouattara they will do it with01:05:08
Mackyall with Talon France has no01:05:10
friends it defends its interests it's01:05:12
us other Africans maybe be that tomb01:05:15
I'm talking about African leaders the01:05:18
larb the Laqua there who like to fall01:05:20
in love with French politics who01:05:23
like to fall in love with the speech of the01:05:26
DGC of France and I think that their01:05:29
awakening will be very brutal very brutal so01:05:31
to us Niger must again review its01:05:35
strategic policy towards Bazou01:05:39
towards France it would be necessary to01:05:42
go beyond Cape Bazou which is really01:05:44
a backbone today Chani has01:05:47
still not taken the oath why01:05:49
until now Bazou remains the president01:05:51
who took the oath in Niger there is01:05:53
no excuse tiani must take the oath01:05:56
and me if I was a special advisor to01:05:58
tiani during this Bazou escape attempt01:06:00
for me it was normal that01:06:02
Bazou was a victim collateral01:06:04
that is to say what Bazou could uh01:06:07
unfortunately be hospitalized01:06:09
following certain injuries because01:06:11
it is not good to want to try to01:06:12
escape it is not good for Bazou to get01:06:15
away with it like that ind and there and that Macron will01:06:18
tell us 3 days after 4 days after01:06:20
that he had Bazou on the phone but01:06:22
why does Bazou call why do we01:06:24
keep Bazou in any case we maintain a01:06:27
line of communication between Bazou and01:06:30
it is and the people of the CDO and Macron there is01:06:33
no explanation it makes no sense01:06:36
it is not coherent what is01:06:38
happening concretely for me there is ang s01:06:41
Roch the authorities of Niger have every01:06:43
interest in getting out certain emotions01:06:46
towards Bazou he was our head01:06:49
of state he was our president but01:06:51
why did we arrest him in this case we arrested him01:06:54
because he became a01:06:56
terrorist collaborator he is a leader terrorist01:06:58
he is a criminal by his fault many01:07:00
Nigeriens have perished Nigeriens who have been01:07:02
deprived01:07:04
some have cried so much for their01:07:07
child but it is not worth01:07:08
maintaining Bou cetétat he is not a01:07:11
former head of state it he is a former01:07:13
criminal they must be judged for me it would be01:07:17
necessary for my01:07:19
Bazou with the sanctions of the CDAO01:07:21
Bazou is judged sentenced to death01:07:25
the date of Boisou's execution is01:07:27
set that's in that you know to01:07:30
fight the lackeys of the 'West you01:07:32
have to be extremist you have to go to01:07:35
the extreme if you play the01:07:37
middle ground unfortunately it risks01:07:39
going badly Mrs. Jeen01:07:43
ended up going to Mali to talk01:07:48
about01:07:51
making the first calls this01:07:56
morning it's true that the time01:07:57
has us uh soon at the gorche sorry01:08:00
first of all for the late start of01:08:03
the broadcast certainly concerns of01:08:05
liaison with our various guests01:08:07
while there is already a viewer01:08:09
online who would certainly like to01:08:11
express himself on the subject uh uh on01:08:14
Niger good evening hello to you dear01:08:16
sir01:08:20
yes01:08:21
hello go there quickly what do we01:08:24
call you or hello01:08:26
Madame Christ hello Yes I am calling01:08:29
from the town of Bafousam it is h and01:08:32
I also greet your I also greet01:08:35
your assistant Mr. Eric and01:08:37
allow me also to greet your guests01:08:40
on zoom I will greet here there ass01:08:48
hi and greet01:08:50
monè as one of our leaders said01:08:53
who wants peace will prepare who wants01:08:55
peace prepares for war and that I think01:08:59
that African States must01:09:01
understand this if we are united we01:09:03
are very strong against01:09:05
the West all this is happening because01:09:08
precisely they know that they must01:09:10
separate better in order to be better, they must01:09:13
divide better in order to be better and they have01:09:16
long since this policy I think01:09:19
that it has come for the different01:09:22
countries01:09:24
on the African continent for these01:09:26
leaders to understand that as long01:09:28
as they are not going to put a real01:09:31
military and01:09:33
industrial policy capable of projecting itself01:09:35
everywhere and even capable of worrying01:09:37
Washington at a distance they will01:09:39
never be able to leave the inn we must01:09:42
first start by uniting01:09:44
among ourselves unite our policies and01:09:46
look in the same direction and I01:09:49
think that this peace mission which is01:09:51
organized in Lomé can perhaps be I do01:09:54
n't know if it goes in that direction I hope01:09:56
that our brother Charlie Ken explained it well01:09:59
because he is a strategist uh uh01:10:01
military he knows what it is01:10:03
about that we must not stay any longer01:10:06
we must no longer be entertained by01:10:09
the West has come where it must where all01:10:12
Africans must get out of this01:10:14
distraction there you just have to look01:10:16
in the room uh you just have to01:10:18
look in the room of this forum01:10:21
there you go see the Westerners full of01:10:24
what are they doing there when01:10:26
normally the problem the laundry must01:10:29
be washed in the family they are always there01:10:32
to boost us they are always there01:10:34
to listen to us and understand our01:10:35
policy that we must MRE on we01:10:38
must the l it must be washed in the family01:10:41
between us among the Africans and we01:10:44
know that with the lackeys that we01:10:45
have among us it is not easy the01:10:49
lar are there they are them it is thanks to01:10:51
them that all this is happening to us we01:10:53
must understand that one we must01:10:56
go to our different friends that01:10:58
we know who are on the journey with01:11:00
us we must appeal even to01:11:02
North Korea we are going to appeal to01:11:04
Iran we must appeal even to01:11:07
Cuba see even our great Russian friends01:11:10
and ch to be able to help us get out of01:11:13
this impasse that the West is01:11:14
imposing on us every01:11:16
day they will never be able to help us get01:11:19
out of these woods that they have01:11:22
imposed on us because that it is B that who01:11:25
benefits them if there is no if if if if there is01:11:28
they will benefit but01:11:30
if there is security they will no longer be able to01:11:32
benefit it is that's why we have to call each other01:11:35
and I'm going to say thank you for01:11:39
the extent that Red Line has taken and I01:11:42
'm worried because it hasn't been on for01:11:45
some time01:11:46
but I didn't know that uh the01:11:49
Afri méia house us was preparing uh01:11:52
new things whatever see VO the01:11:53
color taking the01:11:56
red line here uh uh thank you the caller01:12:00
from bafousama so the blue helmets01:12:02
eh we left uh01:12:04
Tessali but uh the fighting01:12:07
continues eh on the side of Kidal01:12:11
in uh the north-east of the country it must01:12:14
also be said that the last01:12:16
land convoy uh of the munisma left the01:12:19
locality of tessalite last Saturday01:12:23
so Jonathan batguené now01:12:27
yes Tessali is01:12:30
now free can we take01:12:34
stock uh what assessment01:12:37
can we make of the 10 years01:12:38
of occupation of this territory by the01:12:48
UN peacekeepers? The assessment is extremely positive,01:12:51
extremely positive because01:12:54
my armed forces are reaping01:12:57
victories despite the strategies which01:13:00
aim to slow down their advanced and their01:13:03
recovery of the minusma camps and01:13:05
uh we are going to take a small example01:13:09
of what is happening uh in recent01:13:13
days when we look we will observe01:13:18
that the Malian armed forces have01:13:20
come across a beautiful gem it is01:13:22
uh the files of Stephen Russell01:13:25
Stepen Russell for those who do01:13:27
n't know he's a01:13:30
soldier he's a military member of the01:13:33
United States special forces he was a01:13:35
member he01:13:37
was he worked for the01:13:39
private military company Unity resources01:13:43
group the United States tells us that 'he has01:13:46
Wagner in Africa and they too are01:13:50
present in Africa through the01:13:52
Smpity Resources Group but if as he01:13:57
tells us works with the authorities01:13:59
of the different countries via defense agreements01:14:02
which have been signed Unity01:14:05
Resources Group works with the01:14:08
terrorists a private military company01:14:12
Jonathan Jonathan the quality of Jonathan's sound01:14:14
is not uh uh uh uh very01:14:17
good to listen to so we are going to01:14:19
go back to Yaoundé to take01:14:22
uh uh Charlie Charlie kenier Charlie01:14:25
uh uh it must also be said that yes01:14:29
tessalite is is free today and01:14:31
should be01:14:32
quickly controlled by the01:14:35
armed forces uh uh Malian and the01:14:37
fighters of the Russian partner group01:14:40
wur so when if we must emphasize the01:14:43
word quickly it simply01:14:47
means that the occupation of this territory01:14:50
by the Malian army is not going to be01:14:51
easy especially when we01:14:53
know that the rebels of the CSP are01:14:57
still lurking in the shadows if it must be01:14:59
said for them also demanding01:15:02
moreover they are in the process of demanding01:15:04
uh uh uh l 'occupation of this01:15:07
territory we01:15:09
simply understand that uh uh there will01:15:11
still be fighting from here in a few days01:15:14
on that01:15:22
side01:15:23
uh the balance of power is in favor of01:15:27
the Malian army, that is to say - to say that uh01:15:31
the Malian army is certainly an enemy01:15:34
today uh which benefits from the01:15:37
intelligence of a certain number of01:15:39
Western chancelleries but it must be01:15:41
said very clearly that the Malian army01:15:44
has also grown in power in01:15:46
terms of its uh strategic capabilities01:15:49
and operational, namely uh01:15:52
analysis uh and sharing of01:15:55
intelligence but even more at the level01:15:57
of its tactical capabilities, that is to say01:15:59
uh through operationalization on01:16:01
the ground so all of this ensures01:16:04
that uh it is an army all the same it01:16:06
must be said it's not me who says it01:16:07
it's the American Department of State01:16:09
which is today one of the01:16:11
largest armies in Africa if not01:16:13
one or the best army uh at the01:16:16
level of the Closenne band so uh01:16:19
all that as if to say whatever to01:16:20
say that the balance of power is01:16:22
precisely in favor of this army,01:16:24
namely the women uh considering what01:16:27
will be done on this side- there no uh within01:16:29
the framework of this type of01:16:32
military operation it must be said very clearly01:16:34
after the capture of the city of tessalé01:16:36
as is currently the case where01:16:38
uh the UN contingent01:16:41
really handed over the keys to the city01:16:44
to the fama that means that it is the01:16:46
Malian flag which is flying today01:16:48
uh in the town of de tessal it must01:16:52
clearly be said that uh when we know01:16:55
the duration01:16:56
uh which has happened before01:16:59
the army today sorry is coming back01:17:02
to recover this territory there it is very01:17:04
clear that in the meantime the01:17:06
terrorist groups who lived in these01:17:07
regions obviously had to really01:17:12
implement themselves as much for me01:17:14
that is to say that uh01:17:16
today the challenge which uh who who who01:17:20
who imposes himself on the Malian army uh01:17:23
it is truly this01:17:25
mop-up operation which will aim to eliminate the01:17:29
few pockets of resistance because it01:17:30
must be said very clearly it is01:17:32
a city which for many years01:17:34
was under the control of terrorists and01:17:37
obviously you can see that at the level01:17:39
of the civilian population there was01:17:41
collusion perhaps uh there was uh01:17:44
reconversions that will01:17:47
make the task I am not going to say01:17:50
difficult but which will a little more01:17:52
complex or complicated and the01:17:54
task of the women once01:17:56
the territory is recovered it is01:17:57
valid almost everywhere it is done01:17:59
that is to say that it will be even01:18:01
more valid when the battle final01:18:03
will be on the side of Kidal so01:18:06
today uh really think that01:18:08
it will be a threat no the Malenne army01:18:10
today has the01:18:13
necessary means to deal with pardon01:18:15
to deal with this kind of01:18:18
situation the city of tessalite01:18:20
today being taken uh given uh the01:18:23
connivance and had the complicity which01:18:26
existed between the minusma and the01:18:29
terrorist groups on the ground uh this01:18:32
will perhaps make a little more01:18:34
complicated uh the operations uh of01:18:37
combing the Malian army but it01:18:39
must be said the balance of power is01:18:40
clearly in favor of this army01:18:43
and therefore after uh this sweep which it01:18:45
must also be said can take01:18:47
time so the importance will not be01:18:49
so much fixed on uh the sweep at01:18:52
this level if not today uh the01:18:54
progress must be made on the01:18:56
Kidal side but there will be forces which will01:18:58
come in support uh precisely to take01:19:01
care of this mop-up there perhaps it01:19:03
will be ensured by uh uh uh uh the01:19:05
gendarmerie and even the police forces01:19:08
to precisely allow of course uh a01:19:11
small detachment of the01:19:13
Malian army will stay that's like that uh01:19:15
to serve uh operations uh01:19:19
precisely of honor uh of01:19:20
recognition and support to the force01:19:23
of the first of the 2nd category which are the01:19:24
police and the gendarmerie and who will uh01:19:27
who will be in the front line against the01:19:28
mop-up but the overflow of troops01:19:31
will continue their progression uh01:19:33
towards Agelout and Kidal for the01:19:37
final battle but it must be said that these01:19:38
are operations which uh supervise or01:19:41
which uh contribute uh to this type01:19:46
uh of military operations01:19:49
but the reality is such that uh the01:19:53
dynamic of mopping up will no longer be a01:19:55
question uh of a few days or01:19:58
a few weeks no it can01:19:59
also take time depending on the01:20:01
density and even the surface area of the01:20:05
locality but uh it will be much more01:20:07
the Panach of the first and01:20:10
2nd category forces which are the police and the01:20:11
gendarmerie of course supported by uh01:20:15
uh a small detachment of the01:20:17
Malian army but the bulk of the troops01:20:19
will project themselves into the01:20:22
following battles, namely the battle of Agolok and01:20:25
the final battle that of01:20:28
Kidal we will take Issa Issa01:20:31
Diawara uh it is very true we01:20:34
tessalite is liberated yes we know01:20:37
that uh uh the recovery of Kidal01:20:41
of tessalite by the Malian army is not going to be01:20:43
easy we01:20:46
also announce that on the side of Kidal the01:20:49
fighting continues there with01:20:51
actions that we cite with killings and01:20:53
other barbarities uh the the the the the01:20:57
blue helmets who left from01:20:59
tessalite will join àotte to be01:21:03
definitively uh for for to leave01:21:06
and we really want to know01:21:09
what the situation is on the spot01:21:11
in Mali today when we know that this01:21:14
departure is in the process of01:21:17
raising other01:21:21
tensions what is01:21:23
happening in the Kidal region01:21:24
in particular you know the last three01:21:26
localities which remained, that is to say Tessalit01:21:28
agog and then01:21:31
Kidal salutes by its position you know01:21:36
between Kidal finds itself a bit like the01:21:39
middle what betweenite and Kidal on the other01:21:42
side you also have a spice if we01:21:44
had a card you would understand01:21:46
quickly and01:21:48
Tessalit the blue helmet did not want to01:21:51
give back Tessalit c It is said that there is a01:21:53
resolution which puts in place the mandate of the01:21:55
government of Mali and which asks01:21:57
Mali and which asks the government01:21:59
of parties that it is the international legal framework01:22:02
which is there this mandate we01:22:05
say by putting that into work what is01:22:07
said the minisma must hand over all01:22:10
its influence to the Malian armed forces01:22:13
and the minisma since it has01:22:16
coexisted for a long time and its01:22:18
mission was the partition of Mali,01:22:21
ensure that these people01:22:24
form in the shadows of France01:22:26
don't forget that Tessalit agelog Kidal01:22:30
are localities where for more than01:22:33
10 years it was the French army through of01:22:36
course Serval then Balcan then a01:22:40
European army01:22:41
of Akuba which coexisted of course with the01:22:45
torists that we are fighting01:22:47
today who still lived in01:22:49
these localities it is the minisma and the01:22:52
minisma has for a long time carried out its01:22:55
joint patrols with the torists01:22:58
of01:22:59
Semma all the tists the men Gal and01:23:02
others there were all in Kidal n 'had01:23:04
no problem either with the minisma or01:23:08
with barcam that's why when you01:23:10
talk about the fight against terrorism01:23:12
it's on French television it's01:23:15
it's on French radios it's RFI01:23:18
but we in Mali on the ground we01:23:20
know that the minisma did everything to01:23:24
help the terrorists to have much01:23:27
more of it here so we are in01:23:31
this situation today we asked01:23:33
the minisma to return all these01:23:36
rights to the armed forces of defense and01:23:38
security of the Mali at the01:23:40
locality level this was the case the terists01:23:43
tried everything unfortunately they01:23:45
failed they adopted a war tactic01:23:48
that is to say what they attack01:23:51
the localities a little central of Mali01:23:53
that is to say - say localities like Bourem01:23:56
and localities a bit01:23:59
like lé localities like dura these are01:24:04
diversionary attacks to prevent01:24:06
the Malian army from gathering a strong01:24:09
contingent to retake the01:24:11
last three holds, that is to say Kidal01:24:13
agelog and tessalti the Malen army01:24:16
understood and brought out a contingent01:24:20
a very heavy very powerful convoy that01:24:23
after having recovered all these01:24:24
localities Bourem dura leré and the01:24:27
convoys headed towards Anfice ANFIS is01:24:31
less than 112 km from Kidal01:24:34
and the terrorists with their support01:24:37
many Western mercenaries01:24:39
neutralized on the ground created01:24:42
gaps trenches did everything01:24:45
but they were crushed because the01:24:47
Malian escor the Malian convoy was01:24:50
accompanied by latest01:24:51
generation drones and TBD baikatar and others01:24:55
we took over the locality of Anfice and the01:24:58
patrol went as far as the01:25:00
suburbs of Kidal that is 30 km from Kidal01:25:03
the Maenne army has everything under its control01:25:06
on the other side Tessalit it was a01:25:09
question for the contingent and the three01:25:11
localities were said blue helmet there is01:25:13
bangladhut but the heavy contingent01:25:16
are the Chadians and the minisma01:25:19
found the Chads in Mali it was France01:25:22
who brought the01:25:24
Chadians to Mali well before the minisma01:25:27
so the Chadian forces in Mali Mali01:25:29
are in the pay of01:25:32
French politics not of Mali not even of the01:25:35
ministry as such and the01:25:37
Chadians did not want to return their01:25:39
C to the armed forces of Mali there were01:25:42
fights in the presence of the improvement of01:25:44
the armed forces Chadians and they01:25:46
understood that they themselves could be01:25:48
caught in part ultimately because they01:25:50
are behaving in C01:25:51
Belgium where a Chadian officer says01:25:54
that we are not going to let ourselves be done but01:25:55
you are in the country of other you are01:25:57
told to leave and there the TAD releases01:26:00
a press release when I say Chad it is about01:26:02
cont chadi who works for01:26:05
France released a press release to say01:26:07
whatever their withdrawal their their departure01:26:11
risks experiencing a little of the delay01:26:13
perhaps because there they are not01:26:15
safe they are they are taken and01:26:19
partly by by Mali of course by the01:26:22
thorist but there is a lie for01:26:26
more than 10 years the TAD cohabit with these01:26:28
thorists and patrol with these terrorists01:26:31
eat together with these terrorists there01:26:33
has never been a problem why01:26:34
suddenly these terrorists must01:26:36
become enemies of the je it does not fit01:26:38
it is a lie and there when they01:26:40
understood that opposite the Malian army01:26:43
does not want not let01:26:45
massive strikes continue there01:26:47
they agreed to cede the01:26:50
Tessalis camp to the army in but at what01:26:53
price they made people believe that they had01:26:56
destroyed all the weapons which they did01:26:58
not have not been able to bring01:26:59
first they do not have to destroy this01:27:01
material because if they say that they01:27:03
are they were there to protect01:27:05
civilians and that this prerogative is01:27:07
transmitted to the Malian army it is01:27:10
also necessary to transmit Cees material to the01:27:11
Malian armed forces why destroy01:27:13
the Mali contribute at the level of the ONI01:27:15
why destroyed the material and according to01:27:17
our information they did not destroy01:27:20
10% of the material they gave01:27:22
all Cees material to the thorists of01:27:24
laassma hoping that 'after them these01:27:27
thorists are sufficiently reinforced01:27:30
to fight of course to be able to stand up to01:27:32
the armed forces of Mali01:27:34
here is the whole reality of what is01:27:35
happening now perhaps only01:27:38
agelog and Kidal remain and there again I think01:27:41
if uh Mali has been clear you are going01:27:44
to make it C case and what is the01:27:46
Chadian storyteller doing ay has failed to01:27:50
postpone the departure we are rushing the01:27:55
departure schedule we are trying to01:27:57
catch the Malian armed forces short01:27:59
in their preparation for01:28:01
take back these camps you know we have to01:28:03
transport the men we have to transport01:28:05
the materials and we are doing it in a01:28:07
hasty way a way of leaving01:28:10
the initiative to the terrorists and here again01:28:13
I hope that the armed forces of Mali01:28:16
and all their allies have understood the01:28:17
messages it was said in our01:28:19
press release in the press release of players01:28:22
from Mali Kidal and agelog will be01:28:25
returned moreover the01:28:27
Chadian county gave a camp of the01:28:30
reconstituted army authorizes laassa already at the01:28:33
level of Kidal it was denounced decreed01:28:36
by Mali but Tessalit at the moment01:28:39
we are making this01:28:40
broadcast I guarantee you that Tessalit01:28:43
is entirely under the control of the01:28:46
armed forces of Mali agelog is almost01:28:49
surrounded don't forget agelog there are01:28:52
enough tunnels there which01:28:54
open onto many of localities even01:28:56
beyond the borders of Mali,01:28:58
the battle of Agéog the battle01:29:01
of Kidal is being prepared. We think that our brothers in01:29:04
Chad must understand that we are01:29:06
among ourselves Africans. They have no01:29:08
interest in wanting to collaborate at all costs.01:29:11
s we know that President01:29:13
Mohamad Debi has sided with01:29:16
France and they have no interest in01:29:18
collaborating with France to the point of01:29:22
wanting to create a crisis in01:29:24
Mali that he does not forget yours01:29:27
border with Libya with Libya01:29:30
some allies of Mali are on01:29:32
this side they have no interest in creating01:29:35
a situation the TAD fa border with01:29:37
Niger who today a key ally01:29:40
of Mali to want to destabilize Mali01:29:43
if they fail we can give it01:29:45
change01:29:47
thank you games I want to come back to you01:29:49
Issa Issa dwara it's true that you01:29:51
have just finished speaking01:29:53
by the time I ask my question you01:29:54
will therefore be able to breathe isssa Issa dwara01:29:57
I will a little return to the respect of the01:29:59
schedule for the departure even of the01:30:01
UN troops from Mali do you01:30:04
really think that this schedule will be01:30:08
respected in view of everything that is01:30:10
currently happening in the north of Mali we are01:30:13
talking about the terrorists we are also talking about01:30:15
withdrawal of the UN forces and we are01:30:17
talking about the Fas who uh they01:30:20
are also there to recover the land or01:30:23
the territory that of01:30:25
course the minusma will leave among other things is that01:30:28
you spoke about it earlier about01:30:30
the use of the track the UN the01:30:33
UN forces say that it is01:30:35
difficult for them to leave01:30:37
when there is uh uh uh clash01:30:40
between the Malian army and of course the01:30:44
terrorists according to you is there01:30:45
will actually respect the calendar01:30:49
since it is announced uh the departure of01:30:51
the minusma from Mali uh for the end of01:30:55
next December here we are soon in in01:30:57
November they announced their departure from01:30:59
Kidal for mid-November soon01:31:02
November and for the moment there is no '01:31:03
still nothing even if they have of course01:31:05
uh uh uh liberated the city or else01:31:11
tessalite madame I stick to the01:31:15
official version of the general staff of Mali who says01:31:18
what in its press release published by the01:31:20
dirpas it' estàd the01:31:22
information directorate at the level of the general staff01:31:25
uh the general staff has published a press release01:31:28
to say that respecting the timetable01:31:31
for the departure of the ministry from Mali is01:31:36
obligatory it is non-negotiable madam01:31:39
it is that is to say what to spend December 31,01:31:42
2023 counting from January 1, 2024 any01:31:47
armed man that we see in Mali with a01:31:50
blue bet supposedly that you are a force of01:31:52
peace you are considered as a01:31:55
mercenary you are considered as a01:31:58
thorist and you will be neutralized the01:32:00
press release is very clear any departure01:32:03
must be recorded before December 3101:32:07
before01:32:10
11:59 p.m. January 1, 202401:32:14
from one minute midnight any woman01:32:17
who leaves her son hanging out in the01:32:19
desert of Mali in the name of minisma01:32:22
undoubtedly will regret why his child01:32:24
stayed in Mali that is very clear we01:32:26
tell you to leave the legal framework the01:32:29
uh in any case01:32:31
international legality protects the minimum01:32:34
until December 20 until December 31,01:32:38
2023 when the helmets blues wanted01:32:42
we know wanted to justify a01:32:44
postponement by claiming of course to be01:32:47
taken in part but by whom madame by01:32:50
whom concretely is it the Malian army01:32:53
is an army which is going to shoot at the01:32:54
helmets the answer obviously is no01:32:57
if we were going to do them if we could01:32:59
do it we were going if we had to do it we01:33:00
were going to do it for a long time because01:33:03
this cap which threatens the blue helmets the01:33:06
terrorists of laassema Madam no01:33:09
because the contingents of the amunisation01:33:11
cohabited with these same thorists01:33:14
for more than 10 years it was not01:33:17
the Malian army which was in tessalite01:33:19
or in gu it was T who were01:33:21
there with these people it was not01:33:23
the Malian army which was in ber the01:33:25
Malian army has left Ber since 2012 if it01:33:28
is not 2023 with fighting we01:33:31
have never taken back the locality of Ver01:33:33
so the 10% that we can estimate which01:33:36
falls under our control we will01:33:39
recover that it will be it's about our01:33:42
territory it's not about Chad we01:33:45
have we're not going to apprehend the01:33:47
Chadians because when Mali is01:33:48
in the forces in Niger we have to01:33:50
apprehend the Chadians from controlling01:33:52
their territory why any Malian who01:33:54
is going to try to do it you terorist and01:33:57
but why are the Chadians going to01:33:59
play CEG want to put themselves in a01:34:01
situation of insecurity if there is a01:34:03
situation of insecurity it is they who01:34:05
created this situation of insecurity01:34:08
to pretext their profession in Mali it's01:34:10
simple, we don't squirt water through01:34:13
our nasal passages, that is through our01:34:15
nostrils, and we know what's happening, we are01:34:17
expressly creating a situation01:34:19
of insecurity to maintain an01:34:23
agenda that is specific to France but01:34:25
It's not going to happen like that, they01:34:27
handed over the Salites and I tell you01:34:30
the officer from Mali with these men who01:34:33
took control of the base of the01:34:34
Salites was clear in his speech that01:34:38
the wounded helmets did not leave01:34:40
not even a needle in this case they did not01:34:43
find anything as war material01:34:45
in this case to whom was this war material returned01:34:49
we know that the minister01:34:51
not even the Conté who was there01:34:54
did not leave with 15 % of the material they01:34:56
had did not burn more than01:34:59
10% of the material they had 75%01:35:02
of the material was transferred to01:35:05
the SEMA terus so who creates the01:35:08
security situation is the ministry itself even01:35:11
now she wants to stay in Mali she01:35:14
will she cannot stay and because to01:35:16
even extend the mandate of the minis you01:35:18
need an express mandate from the council of S é01:35:22
and there is our allieu rich who is01:35:24
over there who has his right of calf when01:35:26
Russia says it shows that next to the TR01:35:29
December the ministry becomes an01:35:31
illegal force or an occupying force so01:35:34
the ministry has no other choice but to01:35:36
leave now will it burn all01:35:38
its equipment will- does it make it auorist01:35:41
that only commits it it can not01:35:43
simply return the auorist material01:35:45
the ministry itself its soldiers01:35:47
can transform into terorist01:35:49
add to these terorist it will not01:35:51
stop in any case our will to01:35:54
recover the territorial integrity of01:35:57
our country we cannot prevent the C's01:35:59
opposite from wanting to remain the question which01:36:02
is on the table the ministering is in01:36:04
normal thinking for me very logical to01:36:07
want to stay in Mali Mali is also01:36:10
in its duty to want to make01:36:12
laamunisma leave between the States it is only a01:36:15
question of balance of power it is01:36:17
not what laamunissement wants to do01:36:19
but can laamunissement do what it01:36:21
wants to do I01:36:23
obviously think that it is no so we01:36:26
are going to force the minisma to01:36:27
leave and it must leave our01:36:29
territory01:36:34
thank you so uh Jonathan yes for the01:36:38
departure of the minusma but the battle01:36:40
continues between the Malian armed forces01:36:42
and of course the terrorists01:36:45
so according to you at this allu where are going01:36:47
things shouldn't we take01:36:50
mediation, that is to say find a01:36:52
real agreement than that of 2015 which01:36:55
already seems to be outdated since the01:36:58
rebels especially in the Kidal region01:37:00
which is a very strategic area uh01:37:03
uh for these for these terrorists do01:37:05
not intend to relent uh in the face of the01:37:08
Malian armed forces we01:37:10
also recall that uh the CSP recognizes the01:37:13
legitimacy of the Mali State to recover01:37:15
these bases but it would also be necessary in01:37:17
return as it asserts uh that01:37:20
the Malian State takes into account its01:37:22
security commitments in particular those01:37:24
uh those which link them to these groups01:37:28
in these in these zones which are relayed in01:37:30
particular the region uh uh of Kidal01:37:34
Jonathan01:37:44
batengené are today released and01:37:47
just now in our in the ORS of01:37:50
our previous speaker we01:37:52
are trying to clarify that the01:37:55
Malian soldiers have made discoveries of01:38:01
incalculable value Jonathan batengené01:38:03
can you move around a little01:38:05
so that we can really listen to what01:38:07
you are telling us you have to offer us01:38:09
regarding the question that was01:38:11
asked to you because the sound is01:38:12
really uh not audible01:38:14
please try to uh move so01:38:17
that uh so that the sound uh uh no01:38:20
longer hurts01:38:23
is- what the sound is better now01:38:26
yes it's better it's better01:38:30
ok so the Malian authorities01:38:33
allowed us allowed us to have some01:38:35
quite interesting findings we01:38:38
were talking about this mercenary Stepen Russell01:38:41
who was arrested he belongs to a01:38:45
multinational an01:38:48
American private military company, that's what's01:38:51
new, we didn't know that the01:38:53
United States was acting with a01:38:57
private company on the territory of Mali01:39:00
today, it's clear that the United States01:39:04
likes to tell us that 'there is Wagner01:39:06
in the Sahel they also have their01:39:09
private military company which acts alongside the01:39:11
terrorists and this01:39:14
private military company is called Unity01:39:16
resources group the quality of the sound is01:39:19
unfortunately not good the01:39:20
time or Jonathan batengeneé to resolve01:39:23
this on his side we will come back to01:39:25
General Issa Djawara to whom we will pose01:39:27
this problem uh uh agreement between the01:39:31
Malian armed forces and of course uh01:39:33
the terrorists especially in the region01:39:36
of Kidal a region more than01:39:39
strategic then Issa Djawara01:39:41
shouldn't we find a01:39:43
mediation with the terrorists uh uh01:39:47
so that they can really01:39:48
agree to a mediation which goes beyond01:39:52
here is the Algiers Agreement of of of of01:39:54
2015 which I said sometimes is already01:39:57
is already to be exceeded therefore the terrorists01:40:02
recognize the legitimacy of the01:40:04
Malian armed forces the Malian armed forces01:40:07
for these terrorists should01:40:09
also respect their commitment with01:40:12
regard to the occupation of these01:40:17
areas madam I am definitely opposed to any01:40:22
agreement with the terrorists the only01:40:24
agreement that is worth it is that he lays down his01:40:27
arms and returns to where they01:40:28
come from because terrorist leaders01:40:31
like when you take obéa the leader01:40:33
of akmi who participates in these operations01:40:36
who was in in any case who is a member of01:40:40
the genum which is the Gess uh he is an01:40:44
Algerian he is not a Malian why01:40:47
does he come to wage his religious war in01:40:49
Mali why he does not make his home in Algeria01:40:50
there you take obeyed01:40:53
isn't it uh who of course was a01:40:58
thorus leader also from Al-Qaeda who was01:41:01
interviewed and by France 24 elsewhere01:41:04
and France 24 where are the01:41:06
leaders of Al- Qaeda is there but the same01:41:07
people tell you that they were there to01:41:09
fight the Torists but they01:41:10
met the leader of Al-Qaeda they01:41:12
never neutralized him his interview01:41:14
is on France 24 it can be seen on01:41:16
YouTube by uh this gentleman he was an01:41:20
Algerian he has nothing of Mali why01:41:24
come to fight Mali Burkina01:41:27
we are not01:41:32
his pouro it is che01:41:38
viireer01:41:39
lead sign01:41:43
by who is01:41:45
also an Algerian why he is01:41:49
not waging war in Algeria01:41:51
why is it in Mali that is going to wage its01:41:52
religious war you know what is01:41:55
going on also it is a war against01:41:57
the blacks which does not say its name these people01:42:00
know what agenda they are on it is up to the01:42:04
rest of us to remain very stratified madam01:42:07
why I am opposed to any idea01:42:09
of an agreement in01:42:12
1964 these people took up arms01:42:15
neutralized by the president's regime01:42:17
they left again01:42:21
in01:42:22
1990 less than 12 months after General01:42:26
Moussa Traoré who led Mali for a01:42:28
year to do is reversed they have created a01:42:31
mess there is an agreement which is01:42:34
signed in Tamarasset on the side of Algeria01:42:36
it is agreement they will never01:42:38
respect it and it is ordained even01:42:41
integrate some of them into our01:42:42
forces Malian armies Madam in 199601:42:46
we signed an agreement with these people01:42:48
one a peace agreement which we01:42:51
call the flame of peace of Tombou Madam01:42:53
in this agreement Mali burned01:42:56
more than 3000 light weapons in01:42:58
the locality of tombou in the name of a pair01:43:00
and the famous pseudo democrats who01:43:02
arrived at the time we say that we01:43:05
made these people believe that a01:43:06
democracy does not need a01:43:08
strong army so they did burn our01:43:11
army they disarmed us by FO in01:43:14
Moussa could not even control a01:43:16
village in Mali so the01:43:19
democratic women disarmed the army in madame01:43:22
10 years after 2006 when President01:43:24
Madouani Touré in business these same01:43:26
people come back to attack Mali01:43:28
when they attack Mali what's happening01:43:30
what's happening we01:43:32
still sign agreements we found that flame01:43:34
of Pai from tomotou we integrated them into01:43:37
our armed forces don't forget that01:43:40
Agali we're talking about was conceived from Mali to01:43:42
Jeda Madam I don't have the privileges01:43:44
of being consul of Mali what are we01:43:47
not doing to these people they said the01:43:49
development of Mali we had one01:43:51
more budget voted for of 40001:43:53
billion madam they have they have with01:43:57
corruption they have diverted this01:43:59
budget as I speak to you01:44:02
Mali build a large dam in the01:44:05
locality of in the north of Mali they01:44:09
went to destroy dam these are01:44:12
people who are opposed to any01:44:14
development of localities in the north but01:44:17
the speech for RB to take them01:44:21
is to say that the North is not01:44:22
developed but when we apply projects01:44:24
to develop the North they take01:44:27
people who make roads01:44:28
hostage the bar01:44:31
there the structures to develop n it is01:44:34
necessary to clear the schools by for the01:44:38
best way to win is to say01:44:40
that the N not developed but it works so that01:44:43
it is not01:44:44
developed01:44:48
hyr the integr what we are not going to tell you it01:44:51
is that RF will not tell you will01:44:54
not tell you and that Africans01:44:57
will understand across Africa Mia what is01:44:59
it when we01:45:01
say say that the localities were01:45:05
attacked attack Mali had01:45:08
enormous fathers but what we tell you not it's01:45:12
that in these localities there were what we01:45:13
call integrated military01:45:16
after that you mention this agreement01:45:19
said whatever there will be peace the former01:45:21
rebels must01:45:23
join so we had them integrated01:45:25
into the army Malian in large part01:45:27
they designated their terrorist in the name of01:45:30
peace this is the very time that these people have01:45:33
integrated the Malian army madam01:45:35
from inside the camp they01:45:38
attacked the camp they started01:45:41
shooting at their brothers of weapons01:45:43
even today that they have a knife01:45:45
under their throats they send01:45:47
emissaries through the localities of01:45:49
Gao de Tombou and by01:45:52
third parties request a discussion with the01:45:56
armed defense and security forces01:45:58
of Mali madame à our place you are going to01:46:00
accept that people who have betrayed us01:46:02
more than three times we integrate them into01:46:05
the Malian army we appoint them as01:46:07
diplomats we make them key men01:46:10
but a few years later from01:46:13
our camp they blow up the camps they01:46:16
are bringing down localities and we are going to01:46:18
give you a red map that Mali has01:46:21
lost 2 thirds of its territory here is the01:46:24
truth that we are not telling you these people01:46:27
today knife on the throat they are01:46:29
asking for discussions well concretely01:46:31
let's say that ok let's have a discussion01:46:34
what can we do for01:46:35
these people integrate them back into01:46:39
our army ma'am no it's not01:46:41
possible are they ready to lay down their01:46:44
arms unconditionally they are not ready01:46:47
to do so otherwise they will do it01:46:48
since it is Canau this channel is deposit01:46:50
the ares and join you that it is01:46:53
it is open it has been several months more01:46:55
than a year if it is those who want to01:46:58
lay down their arms and who request a01:47:00
amnesia that Mali has already made this01:47:04
proposal and it is legally01:47:07
why they are not joining this they01:47:09
want to keep their weapons and decide01:47:12
what is the locality that he wants to01:47:15
ask in return ma'am if we01:47:18
have to lose the localities of bad it01:47:21
Ness to fight us if we have to01:47:23
win them it would be at the price of the Malian S01:47:26
it is at the price of the war that we01:47:28
must win this story of01:47:30
discussion is part of the01:47:32
Western mentality of all times in Africa01:47:34
when our kings were there when our01:47:36
emperors were there we are not going to01:47:38
ask a rebel or a thorist to01:47:42
keep control of a locality no01:47:44
shoot the locality what is to be discussed01:47:47
will he have his life saved or what01:47:49
can we to do for you is what01:47:52
is to be discussed but there is no01:47:54
discussion with a man who has weapons01:47:56
he lays down his arms and then we must01:47:58
consider any discussion or the only01:48:00
discussion that is worth it is their laying down of weapons.01:48:02
weapons and go back where they come from01:48:05
but they are not going to stay in01:48:07
Mali territory with weapons and we are also going to01:48:10
accept certain concessions to ingest01:48:12
foreigners into our armies and who01:48:14
will then weaken us after that01:48:17
it is out and I do not believe that the01:48:20
authorities of Mali will want to do it,01:48:22
anyone who dares to01:48:24
do it in any case will not have, I01:48:27
think, the support of the people of Mali01:48:29
and of course of Africa, it is out of the01:48:32
question, they are knife under the throat01:48:34
ma'am you have killed the snake you01:48:37
have to finish it off the lion is on the ground you01:48:40
have to finish it off it is not when it is01:48:42
on the ground that you have to try to negotiate01:48:43
see how to put them back in the01:48:46
forest again do tell yourself that you01:48:48
must leave the forest otherwise the former01:48:50
wounded there will become again in any01:48:53
case in any case will come back to sign01:48:56
your end we are not jumping enough01:48:58
to accept this will lay down their01:49:00
arms where they will all be neutralized01:49:02
thank you thank you also to you01:49:04
Issa dwara we hope that everything is01:49:07
restored on Jonathan batengené's side he01:49:11
is back the production Jonathan01:49:13
batengené01:49:15
V is back we hope that this time01:49:17
will be truly the good one01:49:21
I also hope so you can hear me01:49:23
very well listen now very well01:49:25
Jonathan batengené you have retained the01:49:28
uh the minusmar will leave Mali but01:49:32
of01:49:33
course the fighting or the conflicts01:49:35
intensify and continue between the01:49:38
Malian armed forces and of01:49:41
course the terrorists and Issa Jawara I01:49:44
asked the question of knowing even these01:49:46
terrorists are Malians if in01:49:49
the past there was an agreement although01:49:51
which is outdated today should we01:49:54
not return to the voice of mediation01:49:56
which seemed to work before that01:49:58
certainly someone does not respect01:50:01
the agreements as much as the Malian armed forces01:50:03
uh uh castigate the position01:50:07
of the terrorists as much also the01:50:09
terrorists certainly castigate the01:50:11
failure to respect certain commitments01:50:14
of the Malian armed forces uh especially01:50:17
in an area here is an area which uh is01:50:20
more than strategic we will say that they are01:50:22
torists but in the past if they01:50:24
started to mediate it will01:50:26
certainly be necessary to finish what they01:50:27
started or according to you like01:50:31
in war as stated01:50:32
earlier Issa dwara Jonathan01:50:35
batengene my brother Issa01:50:41
Diwara most illustrates the incarnation of01:50:44
the national sovereignty of Mali01:50:46
currently President Assim Goita he01:50:49
has been clear the deadline is01:50:52
November 30 for these terrorists01:50:55
to completely release decline what01:50:58
President Assimi Go had already posed01:51:01
as the line to be continued it should be01:51:04
noted that on the northern side of Mali there is01:51:06
rather very good news01:51:08
arriving for us this morning for example01:51:12
we learn that in the town01:51:14
where the fighting took place the Malian armed forces01:51:16
recovered the parts and01:51:20
succeeded to neutralize the01:51:22
United States terrorist which belongs to a01:51:35
private military company s group it is registered in the01:51:39
United States and it is very interesting01:51:42
because on the one hand we have a01:51:44
whole discredited cooperation01:51:48
that but on the side of the United States United they01:51:52
are not ruined and they are not even01:51:55
ashamed given that it is their01:51:57
private military company uh it is to be01:52:00
neutralized and moreover these friends from01:52:03
Unity resources Group are certainly01:52:06
worried because the Malian army has01:52:08
recovered its phone and several01:52:11
pieces of evidence which are in01:52:14
use all the relations between01:52:18
the United States and the terrorists in the01:52:20
Sahel are being examined by01:52:22
the Malian army and we know that very01:52:24
soon it will be used to01:52:28
build a strong case against the01:52:31
United States so the offensive in northern01:52:34
Mali is beneficial for us01:52:37
because the last entrenchments the01:52:39
last terrorist bastions01:52:42
terrorist bastion we will discover in these01:52:45
bastions several other proofs of01:52:48
cooperation between the NATO forces01:52:50
and terrorists with the aim of01:52:53
harming this country my brother dwara of course01:52:56
spoke of an aite war which was01:52:59
racist there we01:53:02
actually understand each other uh the principle which goes01:53:04
behind because there is a set of01:53:08
constructions which were made in the01:53:10
north of Mali which aimed at what01:53:14
the Western powers01:53:15
Ava call the great Sael which aimed at01:53:19
reconstituting even the population in01:53:21
this area you know the Westerners01:53:23
speak of the Great Replacement but we01:53:26
actually had to witness a01:53:27
sort of big replacement and that01:53:29
certainly suited other brothers01:53:32
in Africa but this policy was01:53:35
stopped, which is why we01:53:36
say that it is a salutary operation.01:53:38
It was stopped by the Malian army which01:53:42
intends maintain the presence of01:53:45
Africa and there we are talking about01:53:47
sub-Saharan Africans the control of01:53:49
South Africans in this zone01:53:51
because this zone is first and01:53:52
foremost a zone of occupation a01:53:54
pardon zone of01:53:57
sub-Saharan population so today for us01:53:59
it it is a salutary operation it is01:54:02
positive uh the base of Tessalit01:54:05
the operation of replacing01:54:08
the flags and of hoisting the01:54:11
Malian flag took place in01:54:13
good conditions after the fighting everything01:54:15
went according to the rules from there the01:54:17
Chadians piled up but there is this01:54:21
information also which is important01:54:22
in their dismay the terrorists01:54:25
claiming that their support for the01:54:28
minusma and that the Chadian forces01:54:31
were leaving to show01:54:34
their disapproval of in view of this01:54:36
situation they fired on the01:54:39
army planes uh of the minusma01:54:43
and they hit one of the two planes which were01:54:46
repatriating the Chadian forces and01:54:48
in fact when we uh tried to01:54:51
investigate on on the situation we01:54:54
realized that it was a01:54:55
way of marking their disapproval01:54:58
and uh uh of expressing their dismay and01:55:01
their anger because they felt01:55:03
because they felt abandoned by their01:55:05
accomplices of the minusma we say01:55:08
again to these terrorists that it is01:55:10
good for them they have not yet uh01:55:13
uh swallowed the pill at sea which is coming the01:55:17
the highlight of the story will be Kidal01:55:20
when they will see their support01:55:22
leave again and leave this time- there the01:55:25
Malian armed forces occupy the city01:55:28
and restore the authority of the State uh01:55:31
in its functions it is uh uh01:55:34
certainly in the days to come the01:55:36
type of scenario that we will observe01:55:38
dismay of the terrorists Courau expressed01:55:40
by shots against their accomplices of the01:55:42
minusma you see that the cocktail which01:55:46
is formed by the firepower of the01:55:49
terrorists this cocktail will certainly01:55:51
give us comical scines01:55:53
locasse scines for the pleasure of our01:55:56
eyes we still have the popcorn01:55:58
and the Coke -Cola we are going to watch01:56:00
this on TV certainly from01:56:02
our of our of our mobile phones01:56:05
we are going to watch how the terrorists01:56:07
and the minusma in their disenchantment in01:56:09
their divorce are having a little bit of a little01:56:12
war, it's a very good one01:56:15
news for all those who want01:56:16
the unity of Mali the Fas have regained01:56:19
control of tessal the farm are taking01:56:22
total control of Mali the01:56:24
terrorists are in despair the01:56:26
terrorists are in disarray they know01:56:29
that their hours are numbered the young01:56:32
French woman who announced the partition of01:56:34
Mali SAV she now knows that it will01:56:36
not take place had all those who had01:56:38
bet against Mali know that there01:56:41
will not be a partition of Mali Mali01:56:44
is now in the process of achieving its01:56:47
unity and the president Assimi Goita we01:56:50
say it again President Assimi01:56:52
Goita it is an honor to have seen01:56:54
this man exist it is an honor01:56:56
to be witness to what he achieves he is01:56:59
truly the worthy heir of SMUR01:57:02
Kanté of uh uh uh uh of the great uh01:57:06
uh emperors who led the empires01:57:10
in this in this area which is01:57:12
Mali and he is in the process of realizing in the01:57:15
21st century the dream of several01:57:17
generations we simply hope01:57:20
that around the AES as said01:57:21
also my brother Diawara we01:57:23
hope that things01:57:26
are more organized around the AES, it is necessary01:57:29
that around the AES other states01:57:32
join the cèc and there we hope01:57:35
that Cameroon Cameroon finds an01:57:38
alliance with laes that Cameroon01:57:40
joins the dance that Cameroon01:57:42
can move forward uh in this line of01:57:44
liberation of Africa and that together01:57:47
we build a prosperous Africa01:57:49
as we already see with the01:57:51
sousbressau we have seen the signatures01:57:53
uh of construction of central01:57:56
nuclear power we have seen the signing01:57:59
of contracts for the construction of01:58:01
industrial plants in Mali and Burkina01:58:04
Faso this is a good omen we hope01:58:07
that other peoples like Cameroon01:58:09
will join this union and the fight01:58:12
for liberation of Africa thank you01:58:15
Thank you to YOU Jonathan batengené ladies01:58:18
gentlemen we are going to say goodbye and01:58:20
come back tomorrow for another01:58:22
edition of red line on01:58:24
pan-African television thank you to all those who01:58:26
accompanied us uh this morning sorry01:58:29
so to the viewers who were not01:58:31
able to uh react live tomorrow we will01:58:34
make up for it there was a connection problem01:58:36
they were there Charlie ké Issa dwara and01:58:40
of course Nestor01:58:42
poudas so thank you also to the production01:58:45
and of course to Éric titiux who we01:58:49
see you tomorrow Tuesday thank you01:58:51
Christelle wandion see you01:58:54
tomorrow for another number looking forward to01:59:06
[Applause]01:59:11
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