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in order to keep calm, I chose for myself the00:00:02
tranquilizer beast liposomal Capsule of00:00:05
complex action beast tranquilizer for00:00:08
active00:00:09
people in the previous series, the native father00:00:12
allegedly raped his native daughter from the00:00:16
age of 15 and hid it from his00:00:18
believing wife for eight years, I was in shock, I did not00:00:21
believe it and how they I was told this, I00:00:25
immediately said that I will not leave this case,00:00:28
despite the fact that Uncle Vasyl is in everyone's ears00:00:30
and wrote a report to the police, there are00:00:33
no results. If everything he told is00:00:36
true, then why is the suspect in the crime00:00:38
still at large, the girls' mothers learned the whole00:00:41
truth allegedly only two years later, when00:00:44
the girl already gave birth to her father, but she00:00:47
forgave her husband and did not write a statement00:00:50
to the police, she told dad it couldn't00:00:52
be He asked dad, nothing will happen Mom won't00:00:55
know And you have to keep quiet Yes, it00:00:57
was against her will She didn't want to but this there00:01:00
was no such strong and brutal rape,00:01:03
the neighbors do not believe that she has many children The mother did00:01:05
not know anything They assume that the woman00:01:08
was silent because she was afraid of losing her husband,00:01:11
they thought to themselves that she could already and no one00:01:13
would say anything and he was already thinking And you think that00:01:16
he could not yet shame the child in the house or00:01:18
beat her so that, God forbid, she did not confess for00:01:21
the first time in six years after the crime, the00:01:24
victim girl will tell the truth about what00:01:27
punishment she wants for her own father and00:01:30
why she is changing her testimony Vasyl Is she a victim of slander00:01:33
or a criminal?00:01:43
uncle Vasyl00:01:45
revealed a family secret and wrote a statement00:01:48
to the police, there are no results of the investigation,00:01:50
because the victim herself does not want to00:01:53
proceed with this case, who and why is forcing her00:01:56
to remain silent, or what we heard is not all true, the00:02:00
girl is in contact with the studio to00:02:02
protect her interests, her voice00:02:05
has been changed Hello00:02:09
Stefaniyara Hello, it says This00:02:11
country is bothering you, my name is Oleksiy,00:02:13
can I talk to you for a minute,00:02:16
we literally invited you to the studio,00:02:18
but you didn't come, I'm interested in you, do00:02:21
you really want punishment for your00:02:26
father, you know that I want only one thing, that00:02:30
you leave us alone and the father00:02:33
will answer for all his actions anyway,00:02:36
how exactly will you forgive if he is not punished00:02:39
and as God will make him II, so it will be and00:02:44
he must be punished by the law because we00:02:46
live in our own country Stefo and he00:02:49
mocked you and is now in danger Your00:02:52
sisters are00:02:54
not leading this business. Ukraine is speaking, but the00:02:57
police are leading. Yes, please wait, the00:02:59
police. Yes, when we got involved, the police00:03:02
took up this business, and for eight years00:03:06
nothing happened. Sorry, we simply00:03:08
urge you, Steph, to think first of00:03:11
all about your younger sisters, who may also00:03:15
be by our sisters. Everything is fine and there00:03:19
was never anything with them about00:03:21
this. Oh, what was wrong with him about this?00:03:25
I don’t know why it turned out like that00:03:29
and why he did it, but, but,00:03:33
nobody knew about you either. first of all,00:03:35
secondly, how do you know what happened to your00:03:37
younger sisters? Everything is fine if you00:03:39
live separately from your father now. And what do you00:03:42
want?00:03:52
You did00:03:55
n't even write a statement to the police against your father,00:03:58
who abused and raped you. Look at the00:04:02
fact that I didn't write a statement to him. I understand00:04:05
why I didn't do this to him because00:04:08
God doesn't allow it. You understand now.00:04:11
What kind of law is God? Listen, God doesn't allow00:04:15
it. rape your children, why did00:04:18
n't you write a statement until now, you were00:04:22
raped for six years, I'm sorry because00:04:25
I don't live with his father, I believe that00:04:28
he is to blame and God will deal with him himself,00:04:33
so God will deal with him, but the law is there,00:04:36
you understand as long as God there is a00:04:40
law, if there is a law, let them be dealt with according to the law,00:04:44
years have passed and I want to live00:04:49
peacefully, and I still remember that I still have a00:04:53
lot of brothers and sisters, so they are in00:04:56
danger00:04:57
now, from now on. Your sisters and brothers.00:05:03
Look, if you take into account that they are in00:05:09
danger, please do it, you do00:05:13
n't mind, now00:05:17
we will hand over all the evidence to the police, please. I00:05:21
have nothing. And let the whole country listen to our conversation,00:05:25
so please do, I ca00:05:28
n't say anything else to you. All the00:05:32
best from For 15 years, Vasyl allegedly00:05:35
systematically raped his own daughter,00:05:38
this is told by a relative of the girl, who00:05:40
learned about this terrible news recently00:05:43
and immediately went to the police. The newly00:05:45
injured girl said that she wants00:05:48
punishment for her father, but she refuses to write a statement00:05:50
to the police, as if Vera does not00:05:54
allow the girl, for some reason, she is convinced that her the00:05:57
sisters are not in any danger and the father00:06:00
will not touch them. Who can influence00:06:03
her and ask her not to punish her father?00:06:06
Vasyl himself has already set up plots and passed a00:06:08
lie detector test,00:06:11
soon we will find out the truth together with the00:06:15
polygraph examiner.00:06:18
b to00:06:20
tell about one case which for00:06:22
me too is simply shocking, potentially every00:06:25
child and even boys are in00:06:27
danger, the bones were placed to what extent they had to have an00:06:30
operation in Chernivtsi.00:06:41
I just came here to the00:06:48
studio as a host. I have to note that00:06:52
religion does not00:06:55
deny human rights, it does not deny00:06:59
human rights, they are always at the forefront and the00:07:03
exchange of concepts still takes place between00:07:05
religion and Faith, different things, yes. It is00:07:08
true that as a result of these exchange of concepts, people00:07:11
make terrible things, and that’s it.00:07:15
I can't call it hypocrisy or hypocrisy.00:07:17
Now, please show us what00:07:19
mantras Lesya is saying,00:07:22
please, but when did you find out about this, he00:07:26
asked you not to contact the police, Vasyl,00:07:28
no one asked me to do this, I myself know that I have no00:07:31
right to contact you, what even if I00:07:33
raped me, I don't have the right to appeal.00:07:36
And why doesn't the Bible allow someone to be00:07:39
put in prison? I kept telling00:07:41
you God is the judge, and secondly, he kept saying00:07:44
that I didn't rape her, I considered her, I00:07:47
loved her, on the contrary, he told her that he00:07:48
loved her for 80% of me for 20 it's funny to listen to him,00:07:52
yes, he is such a talk to you, for00:07:54
two, there is not a single word in the Bible00:07:58
about the fact that someone should remain unpunished, in00:08:00
general, there is a constant statement that for00:08:02
every crime there must be00:08:05
a punishment. I think there is one more thing here00:08:09
let's imagine the situation, let's put ourselves00:08:12
in this woman's place, you live with your00:08:16
husband, you give birth to children all the time, you00:08:19
don't have a job, you don't have00:08:22
any backup way out of the situation, you don't have00:08:24
money, that is, even if you want to leave00:08:28
or he threatens that I will kick you out or00:08:31
if if you want to leave, you simply wo00:08:33
n’t be given anywhere to give your children and you00:08:35
will have nowhere to live, this is also very important00:08:38
when we listened to the phone00:08:41
conversation with Stefania now when we listened to00:08:43
Olesya if I had00:08:46
some doubts before this, now I have00:08:48
no doubts that zombification is happening00:08:50
on a very deep level for all the children00:08:53
that are now in this family00:08:55
potentially every child and even00:08:57
boys are at risk because00:09:00
boys may not be00:09:01
sexually abused but they may be00:09:03
abused in other ways and we00:09:06
know for a fact that Stefania has an adult00:09:09
older brother he is the oldest a child in a00:09:11
family who left this family as soon as00:09:14
he turned 16 years old, that is, from a00:09:17
loving, classy, large family, the child00:09:19
can only break free, he does00:09:22
not break free, Mrs. Ana quite rightly00:09:24
noticed the boys. Now, I would like to00:09:26
tell about one case, which for00:09:28
me is also simply blatant00:09:31
Vasyl himself told me about him. He says that00:09:34
his son was allegedly at work somewhere, as00:09:35
he calls it, well, that is, he was helping someone00:09:37
with the household and he broke his leg, and with00:09:41
this broken leg, the child went without complaining for00:09:44
more than two weeks, and it was only at00:09:47
school that they noticed the fact that there really is such a00:09:50
problem at all, neither the father nor the mother00:09:52
gave the child any help and only the00:09:55
school made them go to the doctor, and even then,00:09:58
when they got to the doctor, the00:10:00
bones were so displaced that they00:10:02
had to do an operation in Chernivtsi.00:10:04
Please tell me, what God allows00:10:06
This is00:10:10
not about God and I won’t check it. It’s just00:10:12
zombification within the same family where there are00:10:15
two people. Just really, as00:10:17
Sasha said, they created their own micro-sect00:10:20
under the guise of a certain faith, but the children there are00:10:22
definitely in danger. And yes, Stefania00:10:25
called us back with interest. Yes They took me to the studio out of the blue.00:10:29
Please tell me what00:10:32
happened.00:10:35
Yes, this is very stressful. Yes, but I lived through it. I want to00:10:37
tell you one thing that I still remember that00:10:42
he is my father II. I just00:10:45
forgive him. And if you00:10:48
close it, it will all be on your conscience.00:10:51
And as for the younger sisters and brothers. Still,00:10:54
Stefo, there is no relation to the younger brothers and sisters.00:10:59
Wait, if00:11:02
he threatened you and became a00:11:04
real threat to you, then he can become a00:11:07
threat to them. they also have to00:11:09
forgive him, then look at him, I00:11:14
got over it. As I was able to, I started to live.00:11:18
Everything is normal for me. And if they have it. And if it does00:11:21
n’t work out for them, no. Well, it worked out well for you,00:11:24
but it didn’t work out for them, so it won’t be on your00:11:27
conscience. it didn't work out, but it doesn't00:11:31
mean that I have to go And And00:11:35
do this This is what you say Stefo00:11:38
Please tell me it's scary, very00:11:40
scary Stefo, it's extremely scary, but I'm00:11:43
sorry, please, won't it be on your00:11:46
conscience if they come to your00:11:50
they will be forced to go through the same thing with the00:11:54
younger ones, there is no such relationship,00:11:57
you will understand,00:12:00
you don't know, because you and your father, first of all, do00:12:03
not live now, God doesn't see what, well,00:12:06
what is being done, what was done, but I said00:12:09
that I forgive him And the fact that you00:12:12
close it from the younger00:12:14
sisters will be on your00:12:17
conscience. But you understand that you are just00:12:19
repeating the same manipulations that00:12:22
Dad told you, Dad told you about the death of your mother,00:12:24
it will be on your conscience, you are now00:12:26
repeating it to us alone And the same words,00:12:30
humanity covers its entire history, all its00:12:32
shameful deeds in the name of God,00:12:34
in the name of God, children were killed in the name of God, they00:12:38
raped women, that is, really, religious00:12:41
wars. They are the most terrible, and now people00:12:43
seem to be civilized. People do the same thing, that is,00:12:46
their shameful deeds I also cover up my00:12:48
crimes, my responsibility or00:12:51
irresponsibility, they00:12:53
consciously do this in this situation, if00:12:56
this girl could be filled with00:12:58
talking to her peers, walking in00:13:01
heels, wearing lipstick, spending time00:13:03
socializing, then the mother did not give00:13:06
her the opportunity to socialize, that children are not at00:13:08
all socialized in an00:13:10
adequate sense, we they saw this00:13:12
behavior of00:13:13
the TV, right, Tanya said, they don't00:13:15
read the press, they don't use it. Well, let's00:13:18
say it would be the same if it wasn't there, but00:13:20
there is an understanding of reality. Today, children are00:13:23
in danger. Because they are not00:13:25
given the opportunity to develop, they are in00:13:28
danger because tomorrow She will simply00:13:30
destroy their psyche Yes, yes, she is already00:13:33
doing it, now you have seen how00:13:35
these girls look, who are 6-7 years old.00:13:38
They are dressed in a scarf. They are wrapped in some kind of long scarf.00:13:40
They are wrapped in00:13:43
handkerchiefs. For some reason, tear their faces. That's00:13:46
when I saw these girls. They were00:13:48
beaten. it turns out, I don't know. Well, they are00:13:49
somewhere, well, mother. Mother Olesya herself00:13:52
says that she beats them00:13:56
less now because she is in a weak state,00:13:58
she is sick, but she does not object, that is why the00:14:01
eldest son, as soon as he was able,00:14:04
got away from the friend of the elders at the first moment00:14:07
my daughter00:14:10
was able to leave this family only after giving birth to a child, but the00:14:12
influence did not remain. As after00:14:15
giving birth, she lived there for a few more, I00:14:17
mean that now, as soon as she00:14:19
found a husband, she was00:14:21
only able to leave here, but the influence still00:14:23
continues. She it is still under control,00:14:26
it will be under control because there are already axles, I00:14:29
still want to say now that it is beneficial for this00:14:31
older daughter not to be here so that there00:14:33
is no beating. I am00:14:40
absolutely not a stupid woman, but00:14:43
I sit the entire recording and try to00:14:47
figure out what to do to00:14:51
save these children. Whom to turn to, why?00:15:02
that's why they00:15:05
go to school ragged in such a terrible way,00:15:08
these children are seen by the doctors of these children.00:15:26
it is necessary00:15:27
to turn only to the children's public defender,00:15:30
but even more so to the authorized00:15:32
person's affairs, because here it is not only children and a00:15:35
person who left this family and does not have00:15:38
documents on his own that he is a legal00:15:41
person and deprive the mother of her parental rights,00:15:44
then there is no need to deprive her of them, that's why00:15:47
that they do not exist legally, legally00:15:51
they are not the parents of these children, intimidated,00:15:54
threatened, manipulated the death of the mother,00:15:57
gave money, Vasyl did all this for the sake of00:16:00
sex with a minor daughter, at least this was00:16:03
confirmed by the injured girl herself,00:16:06
but when she contacted the studio for the second time, she00:16:08
suddenly announced that she was sorry to his00:16:11
father and does not want him to be punished,00:16:14
experts suggest that the girl may be00:16:17
under pressure from her mother, and all the other children are definitely00:16:20
in danger. Psychiatrists have already spoken with Vasyl.00:16:22
So soon00:16:25
you will hear their conclusions about how00:16:28
dangerous the man is not only for his00:16:30
children, but also for00:16:33
society, what is happening to him How00:16:36
can you characterize his condition? This is a00:16:40
big problem. I listen to psychiatrists, I00:16:43
understand how deep everything really is.00:16:46
How did this happen in a normal family, and00:16:51
now it's time to I invite the same Vasyl to the studio [00:17:01
music]00:17:03
And now let's listen to the social00:17:05
workers with whom00:17:07
yes, attention to the screen, the family became00:17:11
known to us only now, when00:17:15
this situation gained publicity, this given family00:17:19
was not registered with the children's service,00:17:21
since there were no grounds for complaints about the family,00:17:25
we talked to the mother, the00:17:29
mother is good, the living conditions all00:17:32
food products for children are satisfactory there, there are children00:17:35
in general, it feels like they didn't00:17:37
understand that anything was happening there,00:17:41
you can't say that the children were somehow00:17:43
scared or the children were somehow closed, if they00:17:47
prove the father's guilt, if the father is00:17:50
arrested, then I think there will be no00:17:53
reason remove the children. They have a mother who00:17:56
has performed her parental duties perfectly until now,00:17:58
and we will00:18:00
monitor it, so I don't think there will be00:18:02
grounds for removal. You don't even00:18:04
miss the version that the mother could have been an00:18:06
accomplice, that she could have hidden these00:18:09
crimes, you say that she is a good mother00:18:13
listen, but good conditions are not00:18:16
only food, because we are talking about blatant00:18:19
incompetence, because firstly, if she00:18:21
had to do this Natalka, she00:18:23
should have asked for the00:18:25
birth certificate of the children, that is, to establish what kind of00:18:28
children they are, to establish the identities of the parents,00:18:30
to establish, accordingly, with whom the00:18:32
children live or that is, parents, guardians,00:18:34
innovators, that is, actually establishing a00:18:37
legal status in order to work in the00:18:39
future, a person looked at it from afar00:18:43
without checking any documents and says00:18:46
Everything is fine Well, I believe that such00:18:48
blatant incompetence will have00:18:50
consequences I really hope for it because00:18:52
How much is possible Victoria I want to00:18:54
say one thing, an00:18:57
official, the head of the00:18:59
children's service, is sitting and talking about a family in which a00:19:02
minor girl was born, who did not00:19:06
have documents as a person, and she says that00:19:10
this family is always good, it was00:19:14
not registered, there were no cases, there were no00:19:16
reasons, there were no grounds. You are nonsense. I'm00:19:19
sorry, the head of the00:19:21
children's service, but you don't belong in this position.00:19:25
Now it's time to calm down,00:19:28
because now a00:19:31
person accused of these00:19:36
terrible00:19:37
crimes will come to us, but I don't know what his00:19:41
behavior will be and it will change.00:19:45
As far as I know, he is crying, he is00:19:48
silent there, something else, well,00:19:51
I still hope for a conversation in order to00:19:55
correct all that we have to00:19:59
hear from him today, then I invite the00:20:02
same00:20:04
[musician]00:20:12
Vasyl to the studio, yes. And where is00:20:20
he with you now, any complaints00:20:27
Hearts, can00:20:30
you00:20:31
hear me while the negotiations are going on? You see, the00:20:35
man's psyche is so shaky, the00:20:39
psychiatrist worked with him before the recording of the00:20:41
program. And of course, as I already00:20:45
noted today, he passed the00:20:47
lie detector test, so I now propose to00:20:50
invite the psychiatrist, then we will00:20:52
calculate that after all, Vasyl will00:20:55
he come out or will he be in touch From the secret00:20:57
room00:20:58
And I am asking the psychiatrist to come out here, please, please,00:21:11
we thought and hoped that00:21:15
we would talk to the funny man first, but00:21:18
you had the opportunity as a specialist00:21:21
to talk to him about what is going on with him. How do you00:21:24
can you describe his00:21:27
condition00:21:29
first of all I see that the man lacks00:21:32
emotions emotions for children emotions he00:21:35
has for crimes He knows that he will be00:21:38
punished but until today00:21:41
he did not understand how to come out here00:21:47
steph do you love as a father or as00:21:51
husband as a father00:21:55
now as a father now and before00:21:59
I loved her as a father and they raped her How who00:22:03
As a father or as a husband I did not00:22:06
rape her secondly in relation to the family We have00:22:09
induced insanity paranoid00:22:13
induced insanity Well, what do we call00:22:15
fanatics in our people they are fanatics, they00:22:18
got down to business and are provoking their00:22:21
children to do it. It is a big problem that his wife,00:22:23
as they say, is covering for him. Unfortunately, this is00:22:26
fanaticism in the family. Please tell me that00:22:29
Vasyl agreed to the secret00:22:36
room. And he still refuses to00:22:39
go to the studio. does he want to go out and00:22:42
sit in the secret00:22:47
room? The woman told me, I said I00:22:50
wouldn't go, she was00:22:53
against it, Roman, you insist that it's all00:22:57
connected with his understanding of what all00:23:01
this can really lead to.00:23:07
beyond the limit Everything is already beyond the limit,00:23:09
he already has a life It won't00:23:12
be like it was, oh, I feel00:23:20
bad Vasyl behaved calmly and calmly before the start of the recording of the program.00:23:34
the doctors did not find any00:23:36
health problems, among other things, on the eve of the program,00:23:39
Vasyl passed a lie detector test,00:23:41
his reactions surprised the00:23:43
polygraph examiner, will it be possible to prove00:23:46
Vasyl's guilt and bring him to00:23:49
justice, the whole truth is just00:23:52
now.00:24:03
sexual relations with younger00:24:10
children, tell sex to one of the other00:24:14
children, did you00:24:21
offer Lie Detector testing00:24:24
Vasyl passed I invite00:24:26
polygraph examiner Ihor Ishchuk to the studio00:24:34
Please,00:24:35
congratulations, we already looked at Lesya today, we00:24:39
had the opportunity to see her behavior, a cunning00:24:44
woman And what is your00:24:48
description of00:24:51
Vasyl? the lasa has found a worthy match for herself00:24:55
Vasyl He tries with all his might as much as he00:24:59
can to00:25:00
pretend that he is00:25:04
not completely half-witted,00:25:06
he pretends that he does not understand00:25:11
what is being00:25:12
said to him, he pretends that he00:25:17
has a selective memory and something He00:25:20
remembers says something no He repeats after the person00:25:24
what she wants from him, for example there00:25:26
please there hold he hold And00:25:31
please tell me there were some things he there00:25:33
were some things tell me you had sex00:25:37
with your00:25:39
daughter00:25:43
Stefania Uhu tell me sex with your daughter00:25:48
Stefania was when she was 1500:25:55
that 15 I don't00:25:56
understand00:26:00
years Well, I don't remember or I think it's 1600:26:05
somewhere I definitely say that at the00:26:08
same time he clearly understands because in a00:26:13
different context He very well00:26:16
uses words to which he does not want to00:26:19
answer For an example of a question,00:26:22
please tell me from your daughter,00:26:26
when you had sex with her, you00:26:31
held her, you00:26:34
coaxed her, she was00:26:37
against it Vasyl pretends that he does00:26:40
n't understand anything, please tell your daughter, during00:26:44
sex, you coaxed and held me, I understand correctly, I coaxed you,00:26:50
how do you understand it, I coaxed and held00:26:56
it, you I don't understand how to understand it. I00:26:58
can't understand it.00:27:02
When you ask him detailed questions00:27:05
about how exactly it happened, he00:27:08
complains about his memory and says that I00:27:12
don't remember. It was so long ago, when I00:27:15
ask him, tell me if there were moments like that00:27:17
with other children, he says No, there00:27:19
wasn't Maybe you just don't remember No,00:27:22
I remember that, that is, everything he needs00:27:25
He remembers well He talks00:27:29
a lot, sometimes his emotions00:27:31
fight so much that he himself00:27:34
says that what he thinks and says, you need to00:27:38
think carefully about what to say. Then he realizes that00:27:41
he said it out loud and so00:27:44
on. Say00:27:47
Stefania said that she would file a report00:27:51
with the00:27:52
police.00:28:01
I don't remember how to understand it, do00:28:06
you understand what it means to say00:28:09
or did she say that she was going to file a report00:28:12
Ugh, the police00:28:14
Ugh wait wait you have to think carefully about what to00:28:19
say Well I don't00:28:22
remember Please tell me what it means00:28:25
you have to think carefully about what to say00:28:28
Well does the truth mean or how important it is to understand00:28:32
that first of all, Vasyl was clearly aware00:28:35
that his daughter was against sexual relations00:28:39
with him, tell me the first time sex with Stefania00:28:44
was against her will00:28:47
[music]00:28:48
or against her will00:28:50
I think I was against it I think so00:28:56
why can Maybe she didn't want to Do you00:28:58
understand that? Maybe you think that she didn't00:29:02
want it because00:29:04
she is my child, that she is your child.00:29:07
And she told you that I don't00:29:11
want it. Yes, she00:29:14
told me. Please tell me how you00:29:16
convinced her. Well, she wanted to leave. She didn't00:29:19
want to be intimate. You kept her. for what,00:29:22
please tell me, did he catch her for something,00:29:26
yes, yes,00:29:28
yes, he caught her by the hands, yes, I caught Uga by the hands,00:29:31
Vasyl00:29:35
held his daughter before sexual intercourse,00:29:38
that is, he used00:29:42
force on her. It was really rape, he00:29:45
used force, he he threatened her, he00:29:48
forced her, he pushed her to do this. Please tell me if00:29:50
you had sex with Stefania00:29:53
with your daughter more than 50 times,00:29:58
maybe, somewhere, maybe, somewhere,00:30:01
maybe, well, I can't00:30:05
tell you, at least 50 times. He remembers.00:30:09
That is, it is not so systematic00:30:12
character that it would be simply impossible not to notice this,00:30:15
this is about the mother, the mother00:30:19
clearly understood and knew what was happening00:30:23
until the moment of the confession, as Vasyl claims to us00:30:26
today. He is now talking about the fact that he00:30:29
sincerely repents of what he00:30:32
did, although it is not true because it is pure00:30:35
from the heart repentance involves telling00:30:37
the truth as it really is without00:30:40
any external circumstances, he does00:30:42
not do this, he carries information in a very00:30:45
dosed way, very filters this information so as00:30:49
not to say something superfluous, so00:30:53
today it is impossible to talk about any00:30:55
sincere repentance on his part,00:30:59
he does not have it on the contrary, he manipulates, he is cunning.00:31:01
That's all Igor heard about the00:31:04
find today. At the beginning of00:31:07
the program, Mrs. Halyna said that she00:31:10
found a used condom in her garden. Mr.00:31:13
Vasyl added that it was several00:31:15
used condoms, and it occurred to us that00:31:17
if Stefa went and Olesya00:31:23
could not because of her religious moments, did00:31:28
he have sexual relations with younger00:31:34
children, tell sex to any of the other00:31:38
children, did you00:31:40
offer it to00:31:42
others, to others,00:31:47
not today, to reject such things We00:31:52
cannot, but it is extremely difficult to investigate this moment00:31:55
due to the reluctance of Vasyl himself,00:31:59
in your opinion, does he have a diagnosis00:32:03
Considering that that now he lives with00:32:07
minor children and, accordingly, the children00:32:10
may be in danger because of00:32:15
this, so today he has a diagnosis00:32:19
of pedophilia and that a person has00:32:22
psychological and behavioral problems and has a penchant for00:32:26
pedophilia, if nothing new I will00:32:28
say here, but he also has sadistic00:32:32
tendencies. If from the point of view of humanity, he00:32:36
should be punished there in a pre-trial detention center or in00:32:38
such institutions. And from the point of view of psychiatry,00:32:41
he should be punished in a00:32:43
closed psychiatric hospital and should00:32:46
take sex hormones at night for the rest of his life00:32:48
so that he does not have these urges.00:32:51
He had thoughts and they never00:32:54
leave the person. Therefore, it is not treated.00:32:57
Please tell me if he can00:33:00
control his actions. No, he cannot. In00:33:03
this way, he is extremely dangerous for00:33:07
himself. He is dangerous not only for his00:33:09
children, but also for the children around him. it can00:33:13
happen at any moment, any moment, it is a00:33:15
rush of emotions, passion, he did everything and everything,00:33:18
even analysis, there is no such thing as what he did, as the00:33:21
animals say, he did it and00:33:23
everything is fine with him, he wants more more00:33:26
more attention to the child to the older She00:33:29
may disappear and appear with another00:33:31
child, it was extremely important for us to00:33:34
collect several experts' verdicts,00:33:39
let's now pay attention to the screen00:33:41
to hear the assessment and verdict of00:33:44
another specialist psychiatrist, pay attention to the screen00:33:48
regarding Vasyl's emotional state at the time00:33:51
when he was having relations with his00:33:55
daughter this undoubtedly indicates the00:33:58
presence of mental problems, he was still00:34:01
aware of the actions he was doing, these00:34:04
were some planned actions, it can be00:34:06
called incest from a scientific point of view, it is00:34:10
correctly called00:34:12
ephobophilia, attraction to teenagers, a situation00:34:15
when Vasyl did not suffer any punishment00:34:19
for this act, which after all provided for by the00:34:23
criminal00:34:24
code. It can lead to the fact that00:34:27
similar actions can be repeated in00:34:29
relation to other children, if we00:34:32
talk more about gender, I think that there00:34:35
is still an attraction to the female gender, that's why00:34:38
I think that sons would be here if00:34:41
girls were in a safer position00:34:43
will be more traumatized in this situation00:34:46
because they may somehow begin00:34:48
to compare themselves with their sister, they will00:34:52
definitely have a fear that this will be realized00:34:54
in relation to them already today.00:34:57
I think we can talk about the fact that other00:35:01
children knowing that their sister gave birth to their00:35:04
father They are already psychologically00:35:06
traumatized, they will already be scared00:35:09
and this will already change some of their outlook00:35:12
on the relationship between a man and a woman, therefore, in my00:35:14
opinion, children already need00:35:16
psychological correction. If we talk about the00:35:19
treatment of00:35:20
pedophilia, it will still require00:35:24
long-term psychotherapeutic help because00:35:28
these are quite deep00:35:30
violations in to the psyche of a person to say that it00:35:33
can be cured with medication. We00:35:35
cannot because pills do not change the course of00:35:38
thoughts. If the crime is not proven, then,00:35:42
taking into account the verdicts of our experts, this is00:35:46
already a00:35:47
sufficient reason to00:35:50
really have children00:35:54
so clearly. So why, because I00:35:57
listen to psychiatrists I understand how00:36:00
deep everything really is today there are00:36:03
mentally ill people there is a suspicion that they00:36:06
have signs of mental illness who00:36:10
perform the duties of father and mother00:36:13
they are dangerous for children for many00:36:16
reasons the first reason we heard they00:36:18
beat them What did the mother say once00:36:20
and this happens systematically, the two00:36:23
older daughters left, the next00:36:25
sexual object can be the daughter00:36:27
who comes after her, this indicates that00:36:30
today there are all the reasons, absolutely all00:36:33
the reasons to remove children from the family, a person does00:36:36
not understand the meaning of his actions and cannot00:36:39
control them as the eldest daughter said,00:36:41
he is like a dog, he comes to me and00:36:44
rapes me. Therefore, this dog can find00:36:47
another victim and not only among00:36:50
his children. We have a family in which there is not00:36:53
just a threat, in which a pedophile lives and a00:36:55
fanatic who practically covers him00:36:59
it is the norm for them to sleep with their00:37:01
blood children and Otut I support you00:37:04
in that this is a very scary Tandem00:37:07
man with a mental disorder who does not00:37:09
control his actions and is not aware of them, but00:37:12
he is reasonable within certain limits when he00:37:16
needs it, a person who is prone to00:37:18
manipulations and knows how to cover up00:37:20
her husband's crimes very clearly, so really00:37:22
act in extreme danger, all this would00:37:24
not have happened if the00:37:27
police and the relevant authorities for00:37:30
children were doing what they should be00:37:32
doing, think about it, the child gave birth to a00:37:35
child, accordingly, and the police and the00:37:38
guardianship authority should all have00:37:41
the question arose How did this happen in a normal00:37:45
family and that is why the state authorities had all the00:37:49
leverage to stop all this at the very00:37:53
beginning, taking into account all this We cannot00:37:58
allow Vasyl to return home where00:38:04
minors still live, we can call the police00:38:07
and hand00:38:09
him over yes we have to call the police. I00:38:13
think that the danger lies in these two00:38:16
parents and that the authorities do not tell me about00:38:18
the custody. I rely only on those00:38:21
facts that have become known. If we00:38:24
record them today, we will call the police. And we00:38:26
will explain why, because Vasyl is with00:38:29
us, one of the applicants, he is will write a00:38:32
statement, this will only strengthen our legal00:38:34
position. Let's take it upon yourself to00:38:37
call the police. And of course, we00:38:40
must provide the recording of the program to00:38:43
law enforcement agencies and the00:38:46
ombudsman for human rights and00:38:48
children's rights, and to the General00:38:52
Prosecutor's Office, because the essence of our00:38:56
conversation today was therefore, in order to force the00:39:00
local authorities to work in order to00:39:04
bring this case to the end, because it is00:39:07
simply a matter of our journalistic honor,00:39:12
Mr. Vasyl.00:39:23
with00:39:26
law enforcement officers, local social00:39:29
workers, the authorities, you are the only bright and00:39:31
intelligent person, Ukraine still has to00:39:35
live, Ukraine has to talk even about00:39:39
such things without being shy, so that in the end Ukraine00:39:44
changes for the better, Glory to Ukraine, heroes,00:39:50
Glory to you, admit your guilt, yes,00:39:55
I admit, I weigh what kind of punishment you00:39:57
deserve, what of you00:39:59
should make a court,00:40:01
establish a court. I think the court will be00:40:05
established by the police of the city of Kyiv, Natalya.00:40:08
Good day, Natalya. Are you concerned about the project?00:40:11
The country is talking about it, and we have become aware of00:40:15
facts that are criminal. They are related to the fact00:40:18
that the daughter is older.00:40:24
police Natalie I thank you00:40:39
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