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[Music] and now from beyond our Dimension this00:00:04
is the Jeff Morrow podcast00:00:08
here's Jeff my guest is Virginia Drake00:00:12
who during her near-death experience met00:00:15
with the Council of 12.00:00:17
which we're going to talk about today00:00:19
and more00:00:20
Virginia thank you for joining me and00:00:23
welcome thank you I'm really looking00:00:25
forward to talking to you about this00:00:27
well we are looking forward to hearing00:00:30
about it so if you don't mind let's00:00:32
start on the day you died and go from00:00:35
there well in 1998 June the 2nd 1998 I00:00:40
was I was a teacher so I was at my house00:00:43
in the summer00:00:44
and I had a farm we had 11 acres and I00:00:49
was just going back into my Den to open00:00:52
you know turn on the TV just to see00:00:54
something and this man was on there and00:00:56
I was in by the room nobody in there00:00:59
with me and he had just had hard a heart00:01:02
attack I guess he had a heart attack or00:01:04
he had a transparent you know a heart00:01:07
transplant00:01:08
and he kept telling everybody don't get00:01:11
a heart transplant and I can think00:01:14
he looked horrible and I kept but then00:01:18
one moment I kept thinking who is he00:01:19
talking about is he talking to me is he00:01:21
talking to who's talking and he looked00:01:23
right at me in the TV and said I'm00:01:26
talking about you now I00:01:29
I've never I'm a scientist I've never00:01:32
had the TV talk to me00:01:34
and I kind of backed off a little bit00:01:36
and said wait I'm having some kind of I00:01:39
did not take anything I'm not drinking00:01:41
you know you start going through and00:01:43
thinking that what had you done are you00:01:45
looking at something differently and he00:01:47
kept saying it over so he kept saying00:01:50
and family I just went raised my hand00:01:52
and said I'm not going to get a heart00:01:55
transplant I'm 46 years old I'm not00:01:58
gonna do that and it's done and I turn00:02:01
the TV off the next week I was looking00:02:04
at one00:02:05
and I refused it and walked out three00:02:08
days later completely healed00:02:10
that was my beginning I really looking00:02:14
at life in a whole different way now in00:02:17
that process00:02:19
when I had the heart attack00:02:22
I got in and I was must have been I had00:02:25
well I was for my home you know small00:02:27
town so everybody recognized that I was00:02:30
coming in now I'm thinking00:02:32
I had the week before I had the heart00:02:35
attack I had an acid reflux so00:02:37
everybody's thinking it's acid reflux00:02:39
because it becomes exactly like you do00:02:42
feel like you're having a heart attack00:02:43
so when I came in the second time to the00:02:45
ER thinking I'm having acid reflux00:02:49
they laid me down and they gave me the00:02:52
same stuff the week before but that shot00:02:55
out of my mouth and went and hit the00:02:57
wall and this kid this guy I think he00:03:00
was a nurse too but he said she's had it00:03:03
all hard enough00:03:05
and I mean and I remember I left my body00:03:08
because I didn't know what that was at00:03:10
the time but I was standing in the00:03:12
corner going what are they talking about00:03:14
what are they talking about and I'm00:03:16
thinking I don't know I'm confused I00:03:18
don't know I don't you know because your00:03:20
body is completely confused because your00:03:22
spirit or your life is literally left00:03:25
the room and it's on the corner of that00:03:27
room00:03:29
so I came back in and it it hurts when00:03:33
you come in from that space when you00:03:36
come from one side and you are in spirit00:03:39
and then you come into solidified body00:03:41
it hurts and that's what I've learned00:03:44
about hospice that's why they they cry00:03:47
out because you're letting them come00:03:49
back in00:03:51
usually I can see when I'm in a hospice00:03:53
in you know instant00:03:55
I can see where their souls are on the00:03:57
top of them00:03:58
so I don't touch them because the minute00:04:00
you touch them they go back into the00:04:02
body00:04:03
so I learned a lot from that experience00:04:05
because it happened to me you know00:04:07
people would say things to me but I00:04:08
didn't talk to anybody because I00:04:10
couldn't00:04:11
I was just I was just out00:04:15
but I could talk to people with my eyes00:04:18
you know and they'd say you know two00:04:20
pools like this and one was no and so I00:04:24
could talk like that00:04:26
but I remember coming to the hospital00:04:29
because they had to get me ready at the00:04:31
hospital you know with my little00:04:32
hospital I had to go to Lexington00:04:34
Kentucky00:04:35
and as they were putting me in the00:04:37
ambulance I heard the ambulance driver00:04:41
or the E.T whatever you know he said she00:04:45
he said it she's not going to make it00:04:47
and I remember thinking well he00:04:50
shouldn't be talking to me like that00:04:51
well he never said that he thought that00:04:54
and I heard it when I was in the00:04:56
ambulance I had my nun that came with me00:04:58
because my husband was going to get the00:05:00
children the two boys00:05:02
and she went with me flew me in through00:05:04
with me and I was Furious because they00:05:08
turned off the lights in the ambulance00:05:10
and I thought I knew my body I said why00:05:14
are they doing my blood pressure why are00:05:15
they you know I'm going through the00:05:16
whole process why are they they why did00:05:19
they turn off the lights they're not00:05:20
even laying to look at me they can't00:05:22
even tell that no I'm gone wherever it00:05:25
is and then I left the ambulance and00:05:27
drove next door to you know next to it00:05:29
and I kept saying that's not possible I00:05:32
can't be riding in the you know the00:05:34
ambulance and being beside at the same00:05:37
time and writing at the same time with00:05:38
it so it didn't make a whole lot of00:05:41
sense00:05:42
and then all of a sudden it was like I00:05:45
had like a ponytail right here and00:05:48
somebody grabbed that ponytail and00:05:51
jerked and I jerked and went straight up00:05:53
into another room now I'm still riding00:05:56
down here because you're00:05:58
multi-dimensional so you're seeing all00:06:00
of this but also you're somewhere else00:06:02
so that's when I met I was sitting in a00:06:05
chair that's what well you called this00:06:07
because they said can you see your body00:06:09
I did not see my body but I could feel00:06:12
the chair I could feel my hands on the00:06:15
chair I could see the the 12 people in00:06:18
front of me and their heads were down00:06:20
like this but they were talking to me00:06:23
like one voice but a choir at the same00:06:26
time and I thought that can't happen you00:06:28
cannot have one voice and then I have a00:06:30
choir at the same time it just doesn't00:06:32
work that way but it does when you're00:06:33
over everything happens00:06:36
so I kept listening and they would tell00:06:39
me they giggle I would say am I out of00:06:42
my body where am I and they just laugh00:06:44
they go00:06:46
and I thought are they laughing at me00:06:49
but they never they never saw their00:06:51
faces it was like a hood over them00:06:55
but I could always see their robes in00:06:58
the golden rope that was wrapped around00:07:01
them and I knew it was gold00:07:03
you could feel it I don't know how to00:07:06
explain it but you could feel everything00:07:08
you could feel the textures of the00:07:10
clothing in a different way so when it00:07:14
all happened you know after that I went00:07:16
into the hospital I was out but when00:07:19
they pulled the gravity out of the00:07:22
ambulance and it hit the top you know00:07:24
the flo the road it took me back into my00:07:27
body and I was back in now I'm I'm in00:07:30
pain I'm and I'm a total afraid because00:07:33
you're back into your body real strongly00:07:36
and I remember as I was going down I00:07:38
could see all the lights going through00:07:40
the hallway you know they're taking me00:07:42
into the ER and I thought this is just00:07:45
like uh the hospitals that they saw on00:07:47
TV when they're on the gutter and00:07:50
they're running them down but this is00:07:51
exactly00:07:53
so it was just a different kind you00:07:56
didn't have an understanding but yet you00:07:58
had an understanding and then my friends00:08:01
came in and I didn't talk to them00:08:04
I just would do you know with my eyes00:08:06
and then I remember going in this is00:08:09
what the nurses got because I'm on the00:08:12
floor I'm on the table00:08:14
now my doctor that came in he uh bent00:08:19
down to me and he had a pencil in his00:08:22
pocket and he bent down and the pen00:08:25
dropped there's no way I could have seen00:08:27
that pen there's no way I was laying00:08:29
down so I saw the pit but I also I saw00:08:32
his Cole Haan shoes and I used to wear00:08:34
Cohan shoes and they're 300 a player and00:08:36
the first thing I asked when I woke up00:08:38
from there I said do I have to pay for00:08:40
those shoes because he didn't put his00:08:42
little booties on and the nurse went00:08:45
how do you know that I said I saw it and00:08:48
he lost his pin and you all didn't even00:08:50
pick it up and she went oh my gosh you00:08:53
know what I told them after I learned00:08:55
all this I said you all need to go in00:08:57
the ER and put some pictures or00:08:59
something up at the top and says you're00:09:01
not in your body go back in your body I00:09:04
said and people feel that00:09:06
and they said you are serious I said00:09:08
yeah I'm serious I said you need to tell00:09:10
him because you've got to get them back00:09:11
in the body if you're going to try to00:09:13
heal them because they're not going to00:09:15
hear words so when nurses and doctors00:09:18
heard that I had several really good00:09:20
friends were nurses and they came in and00:09:22
they they wanted to talk to me how do I00:09:24
know when they're out of body it's not00:09:26
hard to tell because if you really00:09:28
understand it because I've been watching00:09:31
it for so long you see them slowed back00:09:34
up and then if you put them back down00:09:36
that's why they start crying and so it00:09:39
hurts to go back in your body00:09:41
and that all of that experience00:09:44
woke me up for five years after that00:09:48
Jesus came to me after 18 months now00:09:51
when you say Jesus Jesus was I was00:09:54
raised as a Baptist and I went back into00:09:56
being a Catholic because my father died00:09:58
when I was 16. watching him die from the00:10:01
age of 11. so I have a lot of experience00:10:04
about death as a child00:10:06
and this is why I was told00:10:10
that that was why I had to go over to00:10:13
experience it because I was going to00:10:15
help people when they crossed over00:10:17
because I knew how bad it was what death00:10:19
was and I didn't want me to go through00:10:22
that or anybody else because death is00:10:25
not00:10:26
a CL you know it's not it's not a close00:10:28
it's a beginning and you're Eternal00:10:30
you're an eternal so and that's so it's00:10:34
so intelligent it's so beyond us00:10:37
that's why we're just small in00:10:39
comparison to who our physical bodies00:10:42
are00:10:43
and that's when I got into this and I00:10:46
didn't I mean I haven't stopped talking00:10:48
about it00:10:50
that's why I do it did the Council of 1200:10:53
tell you anything they told me that I00:10:57
needed to experience what they were00:11:00
giving me now I didn't know what that00:11:02
meant until five or six years later when00:11:05
because I used to meditate 16 and 17 1800:11:07
hours a day because when I go into00:11:10
meditation I can go back in I know how00:11:13
to get in and out of my body so once you00:11:15
understand how to do that concept you're00:11:17
not afraid to come in and out I coming00:11:19
out all the time but also when I'm00:11:21
working with clients I can see when00:11:23
they're out and I can show them how to00:11:25
get back in I can show them how they go00:11:27
out and how to utilize get the00:11:29
university you know get from the00:11:31
universe get the information bring it00:11:33
back and then you've got to collaborate00:11:35
within your own body mind so to how it00:11:39
works it's not it's not what people00:11:42
think at all because you don't die you00:11:45
never die your ashes it's ashes to ashes00:11:48
dust to dust because the physical body00:11:51
is that it's Earth bound but your spirit00:11:55
is eternal00:11:57
and when people finally realize that00:12:00
you're no longer in fear false you know00:12:02
fear is the worst message that they put00:12:06
on this planet or on this Earth whatever00:12:08
you want to call it00:12:10
uh we believe that and it's a lie every00:12:14
bit of this world is a lie00:12:16
how we had to get to it why we have to00:12:19
follow the rules there's no rules in the00:12:21
universe there's no rules00:12:23
you I know it00:12:25
and you know how to go from one point to00:12:28
another just with your mind I went to00:12:30
every planet I went everywhere in the00:12:32
universe and didn't come back for almost00:12:35
three years because I didn't want to00:12:37
live here00:12:39
and finally myself came and got me and00:12:41
said you've got to come down here00:12:43
this is the purpose that you came here00:12:46
and that's when my life began what did00:12:49
Jesus tell you he showed me the first00:12:52
thing00:12:53
he first introduced himself he said you00:12:56
you think that's who I am because this00:12:58
is how you've been trained because I was00:12:59
raised as a Baptist and I was raised as00:13:01
a you know a Catholic you know later and00:13:04
all we saw was his picture so that's all00:13:07
you think he is well I remember he00:13:09
looked exactly like uh in my classroom I00:13:12
was a Catholic educator and I had it00:13:14
says Jesus loves you and there's a00:13:16
beautiful picture and I have a hanging00:13:18
in my bedroom and it says Jesus Falls00:13:20
because I was the only one that had a00:13:22
smiling Jesus and that's exactly who he00:13:26
looked at I mean he looked like that00:13:28
exactly then he explained to me he said00:13:31
the only reason why well I mean when I00:13:34
had Jesus coming to me I stayed with him00:13:37
for 18 months and I asked him every00:13:38
question I could ask him I thought if I00:13:40
want to have Jesus sitting with me I'm00:13:42
going to ask questions and I asked00:13:44
myself how do people know that that's00:13:47
you00:13:48
how did they figure it out he said how00:13:50
how they know me is how they've learned00:13:53
how they know me00:13:54
he said then he just turned into like00:13:57
well you know light completely light and00:14:00
he said that's who I am never an image00:14:04
and I thought oh my God so really he00:14:07
isn't who he says he is he's just the00:14:10
light of God00:14:12
that if you only you have to meet him00:14:14
you're going to meet him the way because00:14:16
you would miss him if he came in00:14:18
somewhere else00:14:19
you he could be standing in the room but00:14:21
if you recognized him as that picture00:14:23
you would never know me so he has to00:14:25
come in the way you know him so he can00:14:28
recognize you as you recognize him do00:14:31
you see what I'm saying it's it's00:14:32
different than what you think00:14:35
it's it's an incredible experience00:14:38
and I'm blessed that but it's not my00:14:42
first one what were some of the other00:14:44
questions that he answered for you well00:14:47
I asked him I said I asked him about the00:14:50
world and he said there's going to be a00:14:52
war this is when he's talking about the00:14:55
uh00:14:56
it was when it was in the Eastern I mean00:14:59
um00:15:00
I can't remember exactly where he took00:15:01
me but it was the Middle East somewhere00:15:04
and he took me in a tornado I was in the00:15:08
I have a tornado and he was in there00:15:10
with me and he went all over the land he00:15:12
said see this see this see this this he00:15:14
said there's going to be a war but you00:15:16
will not be a part of this war you'll00:15:17
never even understand this war you'll00:15:19
not know it at all and I remember there00:15:22
was a war I can't remember it was in the00:15:24
Middle East it has to be it was in the00:15:26
80s so I mean in 1998 I mean in 1998 so00:15:30
I had to go back and look at that but00:15:34
I remember him saying to me he said you00:15:37
will not be involved and one day I was00:15:39
in the grocery store and they were00:15:41
talking about the war and I remember00:15:42
somebody said it I said what war she00:15:45
said are you listening to the news I00:15:47
didn't even know what they were talking00:15:49
about so that's when I knew that I was00:15:51
wiped out of war war is not my issue00:15:55
fear and then that's when everything00:15:58
started opening up when I really saw the00:16:01
world is being manipulated in fear00:16:04
and I'm not afraid and I'll Stand00:16:07
for everybody here because we've got to00:16:10
you know this is why I wanted to meet00:16:12
the near-death experience people because00:16:14
they usually don't have any fear anymore00:16:17
the most thing we worry about is our00:16:19
death time and that00:16:21
just alleviated all of that00:16:24
so I wanted to work with near-death00:16:26
experience people for us to raise the00:16:29
frequency of this plane00:16:31
Dimension whatever you want to change00:16:34
the world00:16:36
and we can do that with the frequencies00:16:38
earlier you said The World Is A Lie does00:16:42
that mean that we live in some type of00:16:45
simulation or something00:16:47
I think we do uh they the way I feel we00:16:50
do00:16:51
you know well look at00:16:54
it we have created in all of this world00:16:55
it's only two things it's in your fear00:16:59
or love there's only two emotions but we00:17:02
drive all those emotions up and we call00:17:04
them certain things like I'm anger or00:17:07
people's hurt me I'm a victim look at00:17:09
look at all the things they've trained00:17:11
people to be but that's not even who00:17:14
they are because they don't even know00:17:15
who they are because they were told by00:17:17
their parents00:17:19
who they are in the womb I remember00:17:21
going back into my mother's womb and00:17:25
because I did die for my mother my00:17:27
mother would like I said I was my00:17:28
mother's seventh miscarriage and I only00:17:30
weighed a pound and seven ounces in00:17:32
1951. I should never survive that00:17:35
but I remember I went back into my you00:17:38
know mother's womb and she was angry she00:17:41
was upset and you know she was in fear00:17:44
all the time so what do you think the00:17:46
baby got00:17:47
they were I programmed before they ever00:17:49
get into the if so the mother's gone00:17:51
through trauma or there's something00:17:53
going on that baby is traumatized before00:17:56
it ever hits This Plane00:17:58
and that's what they've done you know00:18:00
when I say they I'm not talking about00:18:02
somebody in this plane I'm talking other00:18:04
things are involved in this we have00:18:06
layers and layers of information that's00:18:09
going out and we are not even tapping00:18:11
into what we can do00:18:14
what Jesus told me and this might throw00:18:17
a lot of Christians he looked right at00:18:19
me and said everything I can do you can00:18:21
do why are you not doing it00:18:25
and that's what I tell the Christians00:18:27
now if you know that Jesus told you00:18:29
exactly right there in your Bible00:18:32
then why aren't you not following it as00:18:35
Jesus said because Jesus Took a Bible in00:18:38
front of me and dropped it into his00:18:40
hands and it turned into water00:18:43
and he said the Bible there's a Bible00:18:45
within the Bible dive in and find the00:18:48
truth in it00:18:49
it's so simple00:18:51
it's so simple here and they've made it00:18:53
so complex00:18:56
that's what I was taught by Jesus I'm00:18:59
not sure if this statement comes from00:19:01
Jesus but when it's talked about finding00:19:05
the Kingdom of Heaven within is that00:19:08
talking about meditation that's talking00:19:10
about meditation that's talking about I00:19:13
mean when I stayed in 16 and I mean I00:19:15
was how I was trained and I did not have00:19:19
a teacher outside I was trained by00:19:21
Socrates I know that sounds crazy uh00:19:24
Socrates came to me and told me because00:19:26
I talked uh all of those ancient times00:19:30
when I was teaching at school and I00:19:33
thought oh my God and he said we've been00:19:35
together dear one00:19:37
that's why when you teach about me you00:19:39
know me and I thought but then you know00:19:41
what is that possibility I got to need00:19:45
um Michael00:19:46
you know Archangel Michael he came to me00:19:49
and he told me he was in my hospital bed00:19:51
room when I woke up for the first00:19:54
near-death experience and I remembered00:19:56
that was the heart attack and he looked00:19:58
like a little pin of light first in the00:20:01
corner00:20:02
and he all of a sudden turned around he00:20:05
was as big as the hospital room and he's00:20:09
in the sixth floor I'm on the third00:20:11
floor and he comes down and looks down00:20:13
on me and said it's time you wake up00:20:16
and I thought this is what I said oh my00:20:18
God I thought they're supposed to be00:20:19
nice he was not nice he was very firm he00:20:23
was almost like slapping my face and00:20:25
said wake up you need to be woken and00:20:28
during that night that I was there with00:20:31
him00:20:32
also a woman was there in the uh I see00:20:36
with me I said you is with me and she00:20:39
was in her 70s I was 46 a lot of nurses00:20:42
were this age so they were very00:20:43
concerned watching me in 1998 you know00:20:47
that's a big deal to see somebody my age00:20:49
coming in and then you got a 70 year old00:20:51
sitting in there she's dying but she had00:20:54
her uh there was somebody that came in00:20:56
about three o'clock when I was in there00:20:58
with her and they were talking now I was00:21:01
a teacher so I know the narrators of The00:21:04
Learning Channel you know National00:21:06
Geographic they're all pretty much the00:21:08
same narrator and I kept thinking I'm00:21:11
having this profound experience with00:21:13
Michael and Angels coming in and talking00:21:15
to me but I couldn't understand them00:21:17
there were things swirling around the00:21:20
room I mean I just was completely out of00:21:22
my whole frame of understanding but I00:21:25
could hear this man talking to his00:21:27
mother I assumed that was his you know00:21:29
her son00:21:30
and I can think it sounds like the00:21:33
geographic narrator you know National00:21:35
Geographic00:21:37
so she did pass and this is still going00:21:40
on you know and then I kind of I guess I00:21:43
rested and I fell asleep and a nurse00:21:46
came in and I said is she dead and she00:21:49
said she passed I said that is the00:21:52
weirdest thing I said that man her son I00:21:55
think that was her son he was the00:21:57
national uh Geographic narrator he said00:22:00
yes he was he flew in from California00:22:04
so Spirit knew I had to have a true00:22:08
because I would not have believe what00:22:10
was going on in the other side00:22:12
and when I walked out of there00:22:15
three days later completely healed I did00:22:18
have a stent00:22:19
but I never looked back I knew that I'd00:22:22
have seen in the most profound00:22:24
experience and I wasn't going to let go00:22:27
of it00:22:28
and I stayed with my family for five00:22:31
years and one day00:22:33
my husband was really uh he was a00:22:37
narcissist00:22:38
but he was screwed up because he had00:22:41
been a priest and like I said that00:22:43
priest came to me and asked me asked me00:22:47
to forgive him I said I can't forgive00:22:49
you00:22:51
my husband has to forgive you but you00:22:54
need to forgive yourself because you've00:22:55
gone against God in a bigger way and he00:22:58
cried and I was like I cannot believe00:23:00
this is happening to me I didn't you00:23:03
know I'd had experiences when I was a00:23:05
little girl I saw my father after he00:23:07
died I saw a lot of things that when I00:23:09
always had this ability my mother had00:23:12
this ability but we did talk about it00:23:14
not in the 50s and 60s because my mother00:23:17
looked right at me and said they'll take00:23:19
you out in a straight jacket well let me00:23:21
explain something to you my father did00:23:23
go out in a straight jacket he had a00:23:25
brain he had brain cancer and they taken00:23:28
half of his uh brain over here so when00:23:30
they brought him home he almost killed00:23:32
us00:23:33
so I had a great understanding about a00:23:36
strat you know straight jacket and what00:23:38
I did is I sewed up all my third eye out00:23:43
of fear and when I was 42 years old I00:23:47
had already had cancer that ran all the00:23:50
way through here00:23:51
now I had the name you know the the let00:23:56
me get this00:23:57
um00:23:58
I had the near-death experience at 4600:24:00
but I was always getting a preview of00:24:03
Coming Attractions so I didn't00:24:04
understand this00:24:06
but when I had the near-death experience00:24:08
it said that's what you did to yourself00:24:10
you closed yourself off because your00:24:12
mother scared you00:24:14
and I don't have any cancer anymore00:24:18
so that's what I'm saying00:24:20
so this priest that came to you he was00:24:24
already dead yes00:24:26
father would did you confront your00:24:28
husband about this and if so was he00:24:31
shocked that you found out no because my00:24:34
family when I came out of my near-death00:24:36
experience they thought I was crazy I00:24:38
could talk to the grass I could talk to00:24:40
the trees I could talk to the flowers I00:24:43
could talk to the bugs I could talk00:24:44
because when you come out of a00:24:46
near-death experience00:24:47
I I could I could breathe from the earth00:24:51
she spoke to me she laid me down on a00:24:54
quilt and said let me breathe with you00:24:56
mother earth is alive God is alive00:24:59
everything is alive but we live in a00:25:02
very closed system because they don't00:25:04
want us to know that we could well would00:25:07
we go to church if we knew that we could00:25:09
just do anything why would you go and do00:25:12
anything if you know that that didn't go00:25:14
to fit into your lifestyle00:25:17
so they have really programmed us so00:25:20
deeply to think this way very small very00:25:23
short00:25:24
but we are through our brains you are00:25:28
all over the world that that one girl00:25:30
that I'd heard from your uh podcast00:25:33
she said she mentally goes so do I00:25:37
I can go to all my clients all over the00:25:39
world and they can see me00:25:42
so why can't we all do that because we00:25:45
don't believe we can that big deal what00:25:49
is the best way for us to move from00:25:52
thinking that it's possible to actually00:25:54
believing it well first of all you can't00:25:57
believe anything00:25:58
you've got to experience it belief is00:26:01
just a thought but experience is the00:26:04
real deal and that's what I had to teach00:26:07
myself how to experience now I did it00:26:09
first by ourselves and I was one I was00:26:12
listening to the course of Miracles00:26:14
I only did I've got the book it was00:26:16
brought to me because I had a friend who00:26:18
thought I was really losing my mind and00:26:21
I needed to bring Jesus back in my life00:26:23
I almost started laughing because Jesus00:26:24
has been with me for the late 10 years00:26:26
but you know 18 months but so I was00:26:29
looking at it and I only went to one00:26:30
page and it says everything in this room00:26:32
is not real and the minute that I said00:26:35
that everything in the room was gone and00:26:37
Jesus walked through my window and I'm00:26:38
on the second floor00:26:40
I knew then I'm in a different state and00:26:43
I'm not dead I'm very awake I had angels00:26:46
that would come in like I said Socrates00:26:48
came in Archangel Michael I had people00:26:50
that were coming in to teach me they00:26:53
were showing me how to do it and how you00:26:54
do it is you have to do nostril breath00:26:56
it's got to come up like this it comes00:26:59
back down into the Still Point in the00:27:01
back of the neck it goes down into the00:27:03
fluid because that's called the Golden00:27:06
River that is the Egyptians and it runs00:27:09
all the way down and then you expand it00:27:11
your spine is really the expansion00:27:14
and then you come in and then you are00:27:16
out00:27:18
it's work I'm not I work with clients00:27:21
all day long sometimes I just had a00:27:22
client here for the weekend teaching her00:27:25
how to do it it's not it's simple but00:27:28
it's the hardest thing you'll ever do00:27:29
because you've got to clear all your00:27:31
mind to even believe that you could do00:27:34
or feel it that you do it00:27:37
because we've been programmed to think00:27:39
that way you kept saying they programmed00:27:43
us they did this to us who are they they00:27:46
are people I've met them00:27:49
uh you've got people that are shamans00:27:52
you've got people that have been trained00:27:54
by them when you say them these are00:27:57
people who are I don't even think00:27:59
they're people if you ever seen the dark00:28:01
eyes if you've ever seen and I see these00:28:04
people like I see shimmers when I go00:28:06
into our airport there will be people00:28:08
that look like shimmers those are not00:28:10
real people those are angels whatever00:28:13
you want to call them I don't have names00:28:15
for them I call them the shimmers00:28:16
because they always wait but then you've00:28:18
got people that have the black eyes they00:28:20
have no light in their eyes and you need00:28:23
to step away from them because I met a00:28:24
shaman from L.A L.A is a real problem00:28:27
because they bring a lot of people into00:28:29
our little small towns and they go with00:28:31
the psychics and then they paint their00:28:34
whole spirit and they are sucking off00:28:38
the energy off of their souls not their00:28:41
flesh they're vampires but they're not00:28:43
vampires from the flesh they take the00:28:46
energy of the essence and I sat and00:28:48
watched it00:28:50
a man do that and he was a vampire00:28:53
but what I was told to do and a lot of00:28:55
people get freaked out00:28:56
spirit said give it to him put your00:28:59
hands up now you can feel the energy00:29:01
around your hands out of your heart00:29:03
because I have energy all around me00:29:04
that's how they find us most of the time00:29:07
and these people they're dark00:29:11
they're very dark now you've got to00:29:14
understand what evil means just flip it00:29:17
they don't want us to learn to live00:29:19
the truth00:29:20
that's why they're evil00:29:22
does that make sense yeah it does it's00:29:24
interesting I I don't know why I've00:29:25
never thought about that that evil is00:29:28
live in reverse00:29:29
yes00:29:31
I I was given00:29:34
and try all of this I did not know it00:29:35
either I mean I would set for like I00:29:38
said days in hours00:29:42
and I learned how to breathe in a00:29:44
different way00:29:45
breath of the universe is a whole00:29:47
different breath than a human you know00:29:49
breath you're not I didn't take my lungs00:29:51
because when you cross over you don't00:29:53
have lungs I remember when I went over00:29:56
crossed over and I was trying to breathe00:29:59
and found me a little voice said uh you00:30:01
don't have any lungs and I was gone00:30:06
you know because you still think you are00:30:08
that00:30:09
and then when you I've exploded into00:30:11
particles and I see particles also I00:30:14
have people who fly in here to see me00:30:16
disappear because we all can disappear00:30:18
you just raise the frequency strong00:30:20
enough then you become particles00:30:22
and I do that people will fly in just to00:30:25
meet me to go into a state of gone00:30:30
that's how they do it did Jesus give you00:30:33
any other future events that especially00:30:37
haven't come to pass yet he00:30:40
he just kept telling me it's about love00:30:43
not love of man love of God and then he00:30:48
told me God00:30:50
g-o-d goodness over doubt is what God is00:30:55
stop doubting yourself00:30:58
and I've had God I've had God or the00:31:01
voice of God has come in and said the00:31:02
same thing00:31:04
don't look anything outside of you know00:31:07
everything inside of you when you really00:31:10
understand what's going on within you'll00:31:12
know exactly what you did on the outside00:31:14
because whatever you do inside here it00:31:16
affects everything out here00:31:18
so I can see everything that's going on00:31:21
inside me that I can now project outside00:31:25
of me00:31:26
and that's how we have to learn you want00:31:29
to to bring it in here to heal it out00:31:32
here00:31:33
and you don't die00:31:35
and you really don't have disease00:31:37
disease is when you are diseased by00:31:40
what's going on within you're not being00:31:42
honest with yourself it's very simple00:31:43
but we have a hard time being honest00:31:46
being honest with ourselves I remember I00:31:49
didn't know what honesty was00:31:52
until I really got real with myself and00:31:55
that was when I realized I got married00:31:57
at the age of 22. I was in 1960 1974 is00:32:02
when I'm married now you've got to00:32:04
understand we were told by the hives we00:32:07
had to go to college we had to then get00:32:10
that degree then you find that man00:32:13
that's going to marry you then you find00:32:14
that house then you have those 2.500:32:17
children and then yes when you're going00:32:19
to live the rest of your life on that00:32:21
American dream that's a lie00:32:24
it's a lot00:32:25
and each generation has their own life00:32:28
that they you know they have produced00:32:30
for them to believe this is why you're00:32:32
having kids00:32:33
that are depressed because they're00:32:36
trying to live a dream that doesn't00:32:37
exist00:32:39
and you've got to find if there's no00:32:41
such thing as a dream it really is a00:32:43
reality that you make it into a dream00:32:46
because you can't imagine it being that00:32:48
way speaking of dreams and reality00:32:53
can you compare the reality of the other00:32:56
side to this one nothing comparable00:33:00
colors are different types are different00:33:03
uh energy is totally different you have00:33:06
a different piece00:33:08
uh I can create it for me and for my00:33:11
clients because I can raise that00:33:14
frequency to bring it in so why don't we00:33:16
bring our near-death experiences here00:33:19
and utilize them00:33:21
because when we're out there you have to00:33:24
come back in here I want to make this00:33:27
there00:33:29
and I think people will wake up I really00:33:32
do believe00:33:34
I was not awake I didn't even know what00:33:36
awake meant until I've had the00:33:39
near-death experience because it's not00:33:41
about your sin like drinking and sex and00:33:44
no it's deeper than that00:33:47
it's about what you do to somebody and00:33:49
you will affect it'll affect you when00:33:52
you cross over if you've hurt somebody00:33:54
you feel the pain00:33:56
so do you like this is why I tell people00:33:59
I said don't rob somebody don't kill00:34:01
somebody because you're going to end up00:34:02
feeling everything that you did to them00:34:04
because it comes back to you so you will00:34:07
recognize what you have done00:34:10
that's how I learned00:34:12
you had a friend that just lost somebody00:34:15
they transitioned to the other side and00:34:18
they were grieving what kind of advice00:34:21
would you give well I have a lot of00:34:23
people who do call me00:34:25
first of all they've got to grieve00:34:27
that's part of the human state of mind00:34:30
it's you've got to agree but you got to00:34:32
grieve it in a different way you gotta00:34:34
know if first of all if you're Christian00:34:36
you should immediately know that there00:34:38
is going to be an eternal life00:34:41
a lot of Christians still don't believe00:34:43
that I mean they start screaming and00:34:45
yelling and you know getting upset and I00:34:47
said don't you believe that they go00:34:49
somewhere else well they know that I00:34:51
have because but some people don't00:34:53
believe me okay they still have a00:34:55
problem they don't think like go talk to00:34:57
a minister they think I'm nuts00:35:01
and I have friends that are in ministers00:35:03
they won't even discuss it with me00:35:05
because it scares them because I'm00:35:07
breaking every rule that they can think00:35:09
of and I'm a rule breaker anyway00:35:13
so but the thing is telling somebody at00:35:16
that time like with this young man that00:35:18
has died that I you know just happened00:35:20
yesterday00:35:22
I just I I grieved00:35:25
I grieved his youth I grieved all the00:35:28
things I remembered about him I called00:35:29
my sons because they were his friends00:35:31
and I called them and I said cry because00:35:34
tears are the moisture of the Soul00:35:38
and if you cry for them and you you're00:35:41
not willing but you are the universe of00:35:43
God fills every bit of that and can feel00:35:46
you can feel it and that is giving him00:35:50
prayers prayers that you feel prayers00:35:52
where I can feel all the prayers as I00:35:54
was going over from a you know heart00:35:56
attack I heard people's prayers00:36:00
so prayer is the most strongest thing we00:36:03
can do00:36:04
because it is a frequency00:36:07
and it moves on through the answer so00:36:10
you know that's what I'm telling you we00:36:12
have been we have been trained00:36:14
incorrectly and educated incorrectly I'm00:36:17
going to take you in a direction that00:36:19
might be uncomfortable for you and it00:36:21
might not00:36:22
but a significant portion of my00:36:25
near-death experiences00:36:27
also see UFOs do you I have seen things00:36:32
when I was a little girl I saw Shadows I00:36:36
never did see uh a UFO but I could feel00:36:41
them00:36:42
I could feel things in my room all the00:36:45
time in my closet they would open up the00:36:47
closet00:36:48
I would see the red eyes now I would00:36:50
like to throw that out I want to know00:36:52
the ones who've seen the red eyes00:36:53
because the red eyes are a whole00:36:55
different experience00:36:57
and um usually I can find people who00:37:00
have had the red eyes because it scares00:37:02
the hell out of them because it makes00:37:04
you stay here00:37:06
out of fear but when I realized that the00:37:09
red eyes were just to keep me here I00:37:11
just learned how to get out of it00:37:14
um but I don't recall any UFOs00:37:18
I do know that I talk to people I've00:37:21
seen manises I have seen roaches in my00:37:25
body00:37:26
because those are layers that you have00:37:28
to go into your brain because that's00:37:29
where you have to realign realign it and00:37:33
these are things that you put in because00:37:35
your mind doesn't want you to wake up00:37:39
because it's been programmed nothing00:37:40
like that00:37:41
so you've got to discipline it to get it00:37:44
out of the way so you can get in what's00:37:46
the best way to start reprogramming your00:37:49
mind you got to learn to empty your mind00:37:51
and get still I mean to be in 16 17 1800:37:55
hours a day you are really I'm in my00:37:58
body and what I'm doing is I'm working00:38:00
down through every particle every nerve00:38:03
ending anything I'm learning everything00:38:05
the fibers in my brain I've arced00:38:08
everything over there's arcs that go on00:38:10
all the time you've got to learn how to00:38:12
go in one or you know I would go in00:38:14
Bring It Back In come back out come in I00:38:18
was always I work all the time 24 7. I00:38:21
work in my dreams I work in and I the00:38:25
thing that they have to remember is to00:38:27
be relaxed Within00:38:31
because if you're not relaxed you're not00:38:33
going to be able to do all that movement00:38:34
getting through the body the way it does00:38:38
so it's it's a it's a trick to do but it00:38:41
can be done and it can be done because00:38:43
I've done this with many many clients00:38:46
so yeah do you believe in reincarnation00:38:50
yes but not the way that I think the00:38:53
Hindus are talking about I saw mine00:38:55
there that my past lives in fact I was00:38:58
with a client two of them00:39:00
a married couple and I have always known00:39:04
that I was uh00:39:06
something was wrong different something00:39:08
was different and it was you know Joan00:39:10
of Arc Joan of Arc kept coming up and00:39:12
when I became a Catholic at the age of00:39:14
16 I did that I was in a beauty shop I00:39:18
was a beauty contest and they asked00:39:21
these two questions the first question00:39:23
they asked you know00:39:25
and it was this high school you know00:39:28
it's a high school school thing you know00:39:30
it's a little small town but I remember00:39:33
us I always the week that I was doing it00:39:36
I saw on television this guy said if you00:39:41
had only one wish in the world what00:39:43
would you wish like that he's a thousand00:39:45
more wishes I thought that's so good now00:39:47
I did I just was listening that was one00:39:49
of the questions that was one of the00:39:51
first questions I asked in that beauty00:39:52
contest00:39:53
and I went oh my God00:39:56
I know that answer so I remember when I00:39:59
said that everybody my mother is so00:40:01
proud that was such a big answer you00:40:03
know and if the small town00:40:06
so the second one living or dead now you00:40:10
gotta understand this is in the 60s who00:40:12
would you like to be00:40:15
and a voice inside of my head said Joan00:40:18
another Joan Joan of Arc Heather Jonah00:40:24
so we came in and the narrator said00:40:27
Jenny what would you like00:40:29
I said I like Joan of Arc and they my00:40:33
mother said oh my God00:40:36
she only died because she believed in00:40:38
what she did00:40:40
and my mother said oh my God why would00:40:43
you even you know I became like I think00:40:45
the second runner-upper she said that00:40:47
was not good but I remembered that00:40:50
because when I had my near-death00:40:51
experience she talked to me00:40:55
doing that and then I was in a with a00:40:57
client and she talked to me but what she00:41:00
gave me was not what they tell me on the00:41:02
books00:41:03
she cried and she said look what I've00:41:05
done I did not honor the God that I know00:41:09
I honored the god of fear00:41:12
and that was my message to the king00:41:14
Fair00:41:16
amen and then you get to see of the00:41:18
devastation that you've created00:41:21
the blood was Ray oh it was horrible and00:41:24
I taught Middle Ages so I knew exactly00:41:26
what I was looking at00:41:28
so I was responsible that so was00:41:32
responsible for a poor message00:41:35
and you're responsible00:41:38
so I think this is how I'm working00:41:39
through my stuff is now I'm standing up00:41:41
for the real truth and hoping that00:41:44
everybody will hear that truth00:41:46
that's from my past00:41:49
what inspires you about your experience00:41:54
telling people the truth00:41:56
I'm a truth Taylor00:41:58
and enough you know to be honest to be00:42:01
truthful to yourself and that's exactly00:42:03
right there be you know be true to00:42:06
yourself that is the biggest statement00:42:08
that we could ever use and that means00:42:10
we're so afraid we're going to harm00:42:12
somebody but you're harming them by not00:42:14
telling them the truth I think the00:42:16
harmless thing that ever happened to me00:42:18
is when somebody that I trusted to the00:42:20
death such as my ex-husband that I00:42:23
believed in him and he had had good00:42:25
Affairs he acted awful I did not know00:42:27
that but that was such a hey oh it was00:42:30
so deep because when you love somebody00:42:33
and you trust them and they betray you00:42:37
that's a bigger betrayal that you'll00:42:39
ever understand because you that's a00:42:42
soul thing00:42:43
and so work is a whole different00:42:46
ballgame than there I'm a psychiatric00:42:48
social worker00:42:50
and I don't even do that social work00:42:53
because it's so much deeper than that00:42:55
and I have friends that are00:42:57
psychologists and they say the same00:42:59
thing they'll get them to the certain00:43:00
level then they send them to me00:43:03
because they said they're doing things00:43:05
they're asking things and it adds and I00:43:07
don't have a license I do my higher self00:43:10
literally said do not license them00:43:12
anything of the world of man00:43:14
don't listen to anything everything is00:43:16
Tainted everything now that came in from00:43:18
Spirit and you find the truth in00:43:21
everything00:43:22
and then you'll know the truth or what00:43:24
it really is after this life is over are00:43:27
you coming back again or are you going00:43:29
somewhere else00:43:31
I've already told several people because00:43:33
I've already done my funeral00:43:35
and I told them we're going to have an00:43:38
open mic I'm not gonna do and I said I'm00:43:41
going to be cremated and I said but I00:43:43
will find one of you00:43:45
and see you and you'll know it and00:43:46
everybody says please come to me00:43:49
and I started laughing because we see00:43:50
things I mean when we're talking about00:43:52
my death or their death we all talk very00:43:55
openly and it scares that a lot of00:43:57
people because we're not afraid00:44:00
and that's the whole thing you should00:44:03
not because what's going on here and00:44:06
this is my trick because I've done all00:44:08
the research Freemasonry the whole thing00:44:10
everything that's going on this plane00:44:12
but that's what they are they're a death00:44:15
cult that death is a big deal what I00:44:18
meant is after this life are you going00:44:21
to reincarnate back to Earth are you00:44:23
going to go to another planet I really00:44:25
have a hard time with planets00:44:27
even though I thought I went there00:44:29
because I believed in it but I really00:44:31
believe we're in a flat Earth and I've00:44:33
been to the Earth more than I have been00:44:35
in the universe I know what goes on in00:44:37
the earth I know exactly and there are00:44:39
different things going on down there00:44:41
than it is up here you're in go back to00:44:43
the Bible the firmamental it's right00:44:46
there it's in your face and you can't00:44:48
the Bible is as clear as it could be but00:44:51
there is a Bible within the Bible it's00:44:52
simple but they make it all of these00:44:55
different surfaces and all you have to00:44:57
look at is looking for teaching that00:44:59
they're talking about what was the00:45:01
lesson ever learned in any of those00:45:04
people what was the lesson not about the00:45:08
person because a lot of it's all about00:45:10
frequency and coding the Bible is a cold00:45:13
it's not uh words words are flat what is00:45:17
the energy behind the word is the most00:45:19
important thing00:45:21
feeling it00:45:23
after watching this podcast people may00:45:26
want to reach out to you and ask you00:45:27
questions are you open to that sure they00:45:31
can call me or well I'll tell you well00:45:33
let's give them my uh email it's00:45:36
revisions r e v i s i o n s one one one00:45:45
at roadrunner00:45:50
r-o-a-d-r-u-n-n-e-r.com and what they do00:45:52
is I do it I mean I00:45:56
work with these people all over the00:45:58
world because I want them to wake up00:46:01
I think it's more important that we now00:46:04
stand in our truth on who we are do you00:46:07
have a YouTube channel or any other00:46:09
social media sites well I have uh what00:46:13
they're going to do is I took everything00:46:14
off Spirit told me to take everything00:46:16
off I'm not going to write a book either00:46:18
I was in at lands I went in at spoken00:46:22
Lance and I didn't like because of what00:46:24
they were doing I didn't like what what00:46:26
I was seeing there it was more like00:46:28
World of man than what it was here uh00:46:32
you know it was all it's kind of00:46:34
orchestrated and you know the ones who00:46:36
did the book I have dear friends that00:46:37
have the books and and they always ask00:46:39
me when are you going to do the book I00:46:41
said don't I'm not going to ever do a00:46:42
book because I was told not to do I am00:46:44
the book why would you want to go buy a00:46:47
book when you got the book sitting right00:46:49
here and so that's why I will not write00:46:51
a book because the book is about the00:46:53
world of man it's not about God you00:46:56
should be able to see me now when I go00:46:58
in to speak people feel me because I00:47:00
raise the frequency up because I raise00:47:02
them up to me00:47:04
not to come down to their level I bring00:47:06
everybody up and that's more important00:47:09
that we raise the frequency up on the00:47:10
planet because mother earth needs us00:47:13
just like we need her but look what00:47:16
they're doing to this planet or what you00:47:18
call a planet but it's really00:47:20
a dimension it's not really00:47:24
what people think when you go out you'll00:47:26
see it I saw a fence around the Earth00:47:29
and I had to walk over the fence to get00:47:31
through but remember your mind is your00:47:34
gatekeeper that right there carries00:47:36
everything that's your garden that's00:47:38
what the Bible's talking about your mind00:47:40
and you need to learn how the body works00:47:43
because it's in the Bible what it works00:47:46
it's all there all the information is00:47:48
there you just have to find it00:47:52
and that's our job00:47:56
before we finish up can you leave us00:47:59
with one last positive message00:48:01
the best thing I can tell them is be00:48:03
honest with yourself be true to yourself00:48:06
and don't worry about hurting somebody00:48:09
because you've got to hurt them if you00:48:10
don't tell the truth that's the worst I00:48:13
mean when somebody said well I didn't00:48:14
want to hurt you well you've already00:48:16
hurt me by not telling me the truth now00:48:19
some people probably get mad say they00:48:21
don't want to be true like I mean want00:48:22
to know the truth about it but the best00:48:24
thing it is when you know the real truth00:48:26
about what's going on you don't have to00:48:28
sit and worry about it anymore you know00:48:30
the truth00:48:33
be true to yourself00:48:35
Virginia thank you for your message and00:48:38
thank you for being my guest well thank00:48:41
you for asking me to come00:48:45
thanks for watching the Jeff Mara00:48:47
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