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also being painted Well, sorry friend, I’m talking
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about the evil Ruzmov Yes, in the margin of realism, the
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Russian billionaire is backing out of the
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businessman, my Column Tushevsky
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acquaintance and Trotsenko and
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some called Elites of Ukraine are presented, the aggressor
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will discuss the winding station, they will say that
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Ukraine is an opponis in its clutches the
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Russians are chirping along the Horde Why is there
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an adenoid right in the center of Moscow,
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in short, we talked to you, we are UFOs from Oyster
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and Trotsenko propanya Matushevsky on
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the other, you are the new thunderousness of Vinci
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Ukraine and also you are in the grove for the Brothers of
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the birth than from Russia Everything happens, such
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Razomov will be in Statistically rags
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after the first conversation with the cast
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Prigogine, everyone told Akhmed Yak,
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including Well, this is objectively true,
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first of all, such conversations exist And by the way, they are genuine.
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They immediately shouted that this is a
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neural network of
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these conversations, a lot of
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unnecessary evidence that this is a
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genuine conversation. And who will need
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Protsenko’s conversation some Oh, well, don’t Trotsenko
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excuse someone unknown to the general
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public to fake it Why Well, they faked it
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right there, I don’t know Abramovich or, in
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the end,
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Usmanov But what What These lower
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row of oligarchs were faked, there is no logic,
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but they are very indicative, this conversation is
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very indicative, I immediately say that I do
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n’t think that they should be pitied. They
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saw the light there,
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and Yes, the authorities will be there soon. And
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what were you before? Where were you?
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When all this sounded from people smarter than
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you, much smarter, you were counting the money
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while you were warned about it, that’s why
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I have no sympathy, there is
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no sharing of the concerns of these
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first entry even in the second But for us it
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is interesting what is happening in these environments,
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note 2 times already, their dissatisfaction is
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not converted into anything, they do not say
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that something needs to be done about it, so to
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speak we need to somehow
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invest money in people who are ready
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to change all this, we need to
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do something ourselves in the end, but they only talk about
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fleeing, cowardly, and so on, we will take
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the money out, we see families there somewhere in
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Indonesia, some kind of Indonesia. that
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is, it is clear that these people take into account that
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they are strangers everywhere both in the West and in Russia
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essentially. But nevertheless, there is no
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plan there. There is discontent.
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Why, here are some compositions from the 19th century,
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people who are guided by God knows
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what they are up to that’s all And here’s the result
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Well, once again I want to emphasize that we will
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continue to hear these recordings, they will be
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poured into the river, there are just
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periodic recordings dated January,
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now it’s April. Well, that is, why did
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it appear now, not
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because it was recorded later, so to speak It
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was probably recorded back then in January,
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but now is the moment when, mmm,
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periodically these recordings begin
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to appear. Let’s talk about the
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mood in the elites, which is very suitable for a
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counter-offensive. And these moods are
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obviously the most
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depressing, let’s put it this way. Therefore, I
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think that so to speak and We will continue to
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listen to these recordings. But the most important thing is
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how the authorities above Putin’s entourage react to
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Putin himself.
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I think that they understand some things.
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It cannot be said that they are not at all
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aware that they are dissatisfied with his policies,
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and the oligarchs are larger and
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more influential than those who were in the
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conversation. I think understanding, that is, and this is
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exactly why Putin is strengthening
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his own power, they are not sparing money
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on security forces, preparing for
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protests of various kinds, riots, and so
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on. That is, they are taking this into account to
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tighten measures to counteract
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any indignation, but only today the
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Federation Council approved this, in my opinion
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battle to gather a life sentence for state
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changes in composition and up to five years for
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assistance This was finally approved by the
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Federation Council after the State Duma for up to 5
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years for assistance the sting of implementation in
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which Russia is not included, meaning
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that the international criminal court That is,
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this is a whole range of repressive measures terror
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to tighten the system, rounding it up
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so that people like prices and
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others don’t have a desire to
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really change something,
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after all, disagreements will manifest themselves in
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every possible way and more than before Putin himself and
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how they puzzle him. It also comes to this.
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through maybe Putin’s sacrifices are
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clean Well, at least for your poor, the
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yakness of the stabilizers,
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you are also a danger here. Start
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hitting the bureaucracy with businessmen who are
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already bugging them and they know that
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they are all unhappy, this can give the wrong
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signal to the power class as such that there
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will be repressions attacked not on
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direct opponents, well, people like me there
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or like me, but on their own people
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who, in general, publicly
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sign their loyalty, you understand
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what they really think, they scold and
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so on, that’s one thing, but if through
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repression you are trying, what
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should you want to do? punish force What do you
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want to do with this Therefore, I think that there
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will not be mass repressions yet
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only if there is a real threat of a
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change of power, that is, the desire of
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such people to unite, then yes, repressions
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will be brought down on the
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closest Circle Well, on the public Circle it
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could be people from At the federal level,
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this may be lower. But for now, I think they
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will wait and judge for themselves, but Putin
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could have punished people by making them extreme members
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of the leadership of the General Staff and
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the Ministry of Defense for the failures of the first months of
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the War, when Chernigov’s father had to leave the
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Kiev region, when he
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had to cut out the Kharkov operation,
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endure this. such an unpleasant defeat
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Well, they themselves dreamed of Kherson, but
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nevertheless he returned Gerasimov too,
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but now during a visit to Genichesk
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near Genichesk we already saw Teplinsky,
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whom they accused of
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actually destroying the personnel of
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most of the Airborne Forces and Lapin
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Colonel General responsible for the
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Kharkov operation, he headed
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the direction of the center, nothing they accept
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reports, they sit together with Putin,
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it turns out the bench is, firstly, short
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Yes, there is no one to change for, and secondly, if you
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start pursuing such people, it will give the
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wrong signal, it can
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serve as a trigger for others So it seems to me that
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while rapid repressions
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should not be expected in relation to such people, Mark
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has grown up to the term Nova ny do in
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chikuvano and informs that the Chinese
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Leader Xi Jinpen, having talked with the telephones
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of the young Ramzalainsky and understood the
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initiative of the Ukrainian side, and the
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young Zealander himself pedwords in
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Razmoruzmova from Xi Jinping introduce
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her named food in Achika in one of his
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Tazmetov respectful chain call and
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the purpose of the Ukrainian Ambassador to China
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will give an extinguishing mail for the pink of our
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bilateral view of the nose Well then in
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Zelensky and I sometimes another chain is scabby
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theirs Rozmova because the cob of a
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full-blown Tuesday and the essay has
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a strained signal
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Well, I predicted this, they asked me many
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times, will there be a call? I
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said that the call will definitely be there, of
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course, sitanpin won’t come
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to Kiev, he can’t come to the city
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where Biden visited, that is, Well, there
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is a geopolitical game here. And why does
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he need it? He can receive Zelensky himself in
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Beijing. By the way, I don’t exclude that he will
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meet with Zelensky. I think that Zelensky will be received in Beijing with
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great pleasure and great fanfare.
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Well, it’s unlikely that he
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will take risks and Zelensky
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will not go to Beijing during the war, but I think all
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these conversations were not unilateral
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relations, we were talking about war So I think
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that Xi Jinping It doesn’t matter that this is on the
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initiative of the Ukrainian side now
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it doesn’t play any role This is all
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diplomatic etiquette And this is all necessary
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for Beijing to influence Moscow in
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order to stop hostilities
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stop the war may have a
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delayed continuation of the
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system if the counter-offensive is
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successful there will be more trump cards to put pressure
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on
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Putin from the side including Beijing in
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its own interests will not be in the interests of
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Ukraine will not be in the interests of
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Moscow it will be in the interests of Beijing
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Beijing will twist its own
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arms for their own from Moscow and the West but
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about Taiwan Well, with Ukraine, so to
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speak, why would they rush from the
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dolphins to lose relations and worsen them
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for the sake of helping Moscow win the
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war? I think this
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will indeed be a continuation, but still it is necessary
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that The scales have tipped in favor of the
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military success of Ukraine in order for
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all the mechanisms to work,
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including the Chinese ones, so that it is
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obvious that the continuation of the war is
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futile for Moscow and its
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defeat can be converted
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through the peaceful transfer of the remaining
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occupied people. To do this, you need to get a
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big result in result on the
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battlefield, let’s say so, and then of course chances
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appear because what if China
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sees who is stronger in this battle, he will
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join the strongest, but Lao
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Tzu wrote so, but fight, I’m already checking the statements of the
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Russian Federation, you will have them there at a
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time, I will be developed by her during the wars,
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you are there, persuaded to call Zalanensky for another day, counting everyday
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life, I Apparently they
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will spin their barrel organ at a time.
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I think they have two options for the reaction, they will
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either remain silent or say Well, yes, here is
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the plan of 12 principles, something else Beijing was
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discussed at the state
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visit On March 20-22, issues of War and Peace
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with Ukraine,
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President Xi Jinping found it possible to
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convince Zelensky there or
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something else to go to this Peace Plan, these
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will be general words, they are unlikely to
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comment on this in detail, but this
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call and this conversation itself he did not in favor of
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Moscow, let's put it this way: it would be more profitable for Moscow to
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have a firm ally in Beijing
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who consistently
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supports Moscow. This is not and
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will not happen because Beijing supports itself,
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but this does not mean at all that Moscow
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is not under the control of vassal
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Beijing because
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Beijing has there are more opportunities and Moscow
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has nowhere to go, it is in complete isolation of the
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only international partner of such weight of such a scale
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with which our
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relations play a strategic role with
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America or there with Europe
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collectively, there will be no relations in the
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coming years under Putin in all
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existing ones. That is why there are no
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injectives in the direction of Beijing from
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Moscow It won’t sound well, but in relation to
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Kiev there will even be rhetoric about
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its position of capable guilt of Russia in
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Ukraine on the basis of windpropen they are called a
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conflict they are calling it a very niche they call it They call it
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a conflict They call it
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a conflict it is translated from Chinese
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and in Russian more or less this sounds like a
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conflict, but look, it won’t happen
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right away China will join the winner,
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you know, China will take the side of
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whoever turns out to be stronger. Why should he
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rhetorically say that relations
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with Moscow will continue,
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and Putin can be sure that the loser of the war
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is more profitable for China to remain in his
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post than Putin who won or
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there, well, I don’t know, but everyone stayed with their own people,
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that is, conditionally, some part of
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the territory still became Moscow’s and
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he is profitable, weak and he will give away
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territories to Russia, he will strive for
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even closer relations with
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Beijing because this weakened He has
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nowhere else to go, he cannot
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restore relations so that Moscow
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does not light up there, not with Europe, not with America, not
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with any of the Western states Well,
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he won’t
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be able to stop a significant state on the planet behind him, the most
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unpleasant background Yes, he is in its
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political isolation, his way only
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in the direction of Beijing there is nowhere else, so
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in fact I think that most likely
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But the situation will somehow develop, let's
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see its dynamics, we'll see But
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the soul of anyone else's father will be
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justified by the authorities, she is talking about the last
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large-scale attack on the armored forces of
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Ukraine VKontakte
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sold ammunition to Ukraine with bit
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Muran because of the information of the intercessor of the
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Minister of Defense of Great Britain
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James hippie his Ukraine has already sold
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thousands of ammunition for the tanks in
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Challenger 2 and on those voting from their relatives, the
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defense line of the Crimea, the shells
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here are visible to us with uranium in the Russian
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Federation, it is already known that teasing bucket shafts was
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still shouting at this it’s all about
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Darwin, usually it’s only these shells that
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will be in Ukraine and
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the UK won’t be able to fire them yet, they won’t be depressed because there
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were no signs of human entanglement with the Memuran shell in Ukraine, I’m going crazy about this
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Well, first of all, it’s all a lie because
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united Uranus It’s just
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tips for projectiles in order to
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use them for assault such projectiles
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are lead 2 and they use them in the same way I do
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n’t even understand what they’re talking about at all,
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all adults are aware that
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this is nothing more than propaganda
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rhetoric has nothing to do with
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nuclear safety or the use of
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radioactive substances This doesn’t have it
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at all, well, I’m not a specialist. I’m not a
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physicist, not a chemist. I can’t say that on
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my own behalf as an Expert. But
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other experts talk about this and
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we have no reason not to trust. Why would we
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transfer everything to the category of
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unacceptable supply because this
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leads to nuclear escalation, that it’s just that
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Russia, firstly, is afraid that such
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weapons will appear in Ukraine and a
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counter-offensive will be used this time, and
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secondly, well, what should we cling to? By the way, it
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was a pretext for the deployment of
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nuclear weapons on the territory of Belarus.
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That is, if If there
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hadn’t been this reason,
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some other one would have appeared and, so to speak, the weapons would have been placed
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anyway. They were placed because these are the goals of
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Moscow itself, it is so determined
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to escalate the situation because,
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well, excuse me, no one has deployed nuclear
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weapons since the start of the war 14 months
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ago, and Russia said about this, violating
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everything possible Well, okay,
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Belarus lost its
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nuclear-free status,
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they abandoned it themselves. Well, Lukashenko pushed through
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this amendment to the Constitution, but in essence this is a
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violation of the convention not the proliferation of
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weapons. Well, how else can this be interpreted,
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I don’t understand as for the
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united Uranium Well Of course,
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Ukraine needs these tips in order to
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defend its territory or
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occupy there is no prohibition in this,
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you understand, that is, supplying weapons to a
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country that has been subjected to aggression
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is not a violation of a single
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international document;
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everything is going on in the third world war, a
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thermonuclear war, well, it was fought before,
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what will change here? But if the
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offensive contour is successful and these
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tips on the shells will greatly
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help in the challengers in order to
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destroy the enemy’s defenses.
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Well, Ukraine has only one benefit and
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benefit this will get him
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fired in Russia, even bros, he’s
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seen it’s just me, threats What kind of
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rain breaks off after all, he’ll still
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be able to come up with
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Nothing else that they could
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threaten it, it’s not London anymore destroy
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thermonuclear weapons only London is
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not a joke to you because London has
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nuclear weapons, they are the answer to destroying
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Moscow this time and won’t stand on ceremony
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about it, former Prime Minister
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Johnson is using weapons against Great Britain,
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I don’t know how it will all end,
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considering the fact that she is a member this time and
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secondly. Well, what can they do? Well, they did
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more than once someone there
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and radioactive polonium at one time, excuse me,
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they tried to
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poison someone with a newcomer, but listen, the British will
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survive Well, somehow
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they can’t do anything to cope with this because
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Britain is inaccessible to them, I heard from
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my British friends that Now the
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security measures have been extremely increased, now it’s
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no longer a swell price for
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the UK to stand on ceremony there, who needs to be shaken out,
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who needs to be deprived, and so on. That is, I
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think that the UK is fully
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aware of how it ensures its
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safety,
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the plants continued their nuclear then the river
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Josim Dimon this Sineglazka bears
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head strength yesterday one declared and
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all the core of us Bro I Maya Principova
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meaning For the true day of Russia, this
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very paper clip takes the entire power to the
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cup and the nasty Carousel you are not
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tsaramidty and on the duet shadows and can
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reveal the solidification of the nuclear from the eyebrow Well,
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Moscow also has a hand
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every Bear
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Well, as for Medvedev’s
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clinical says he’s an alcoholic, but
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it’s possible that he’s also an alcoholic. One is
00:19:04
not an obstacle to the other at all. One
00:19:05
follows from the other. By the way, I’ve always
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considered him. But let him be assigned to
00:19:10
play around. Well, let him play around with the nuclear button;
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he’s not the one who presses. That’s what everyone is still doing while
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we hear all these statements from Medvedev,
00:19:18
they are extremely safe now, as far as
00:19:23
involuntary incidents of some kind are concerned,
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as was the case in Belgorod with
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two bombs. To be honest, when
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I saw this, one exploded. I was
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very surprised. I still thought that it
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would not come to this, that is, they
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still and bombing Voronezh is a dumb thing, you
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know, bombing your own city
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in order to hurt others is the
00:19:41
same commonplace, but to be honest, now
00:19:44
you’re not surprised by anything, this is the state of
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I think military equipment is very important, it’s
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such that the risks of this kind of non-
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arbitrary explosions or not, I don’t know
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They only increase the number of fallen Bombs
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because, well, what if a naval
00:20:03
vessel was flying and dropped some kind of fasteners
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or something they said wrong there? Or
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so on, two bombs on Belgorod, one
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exploded there, a crater 20 m away, no, is it possible to have a
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nuclear bomb? so drop something on yourself
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Well, in general, it’s as if something like this has never happened, to
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drop something right on your territory on a city in the center, but I don’t
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think. Of course, nuclear weapons explode in a different way; the
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nuclear triad, the components of
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pure air, it
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works differently, so to speak. not a bomb in the
00:20:35
usual sense, but to be honest,
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let's see I hope that this doesn't
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happen
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bomb your own country with nuclear
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weapons it will be an Epic Fail or what,
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in truth the Russians are not like that, you can
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say the slogan Putin started in the address
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until Tuesday he is 20 senior lesson but you don't think
00:21:02
so Who became him became
00:21:10
higher Russian water means another 3
00:21:14
months and before the full scale Tuesday
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the official
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makes Ukraine
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corporations
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from Russia
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I understand, but I think that the plan
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always existed, of course it was possible to
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aggravate it with something, one other third
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there and Medvedchuk and his assets something else,
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but still, there was always a plan for the occupation of Ukraine
00:21:42
in the fourteenth year, no
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media assets were taken away from Medvedchuk, and
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yet Crimea, uh, occupied,
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occupied Donbass, maybe it was
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one of some
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emotional or reactive factors that
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look also at our buns, but I think
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that this was Moscow’s strategy, it was an imperial
00:22:01
strategy because Ukraine should not
00:22:03
exist, it should not exist as an
00:22:05
independent government positions,
00:22:06
consider the Ukrainian nation there should be no
00:22:08
Ukrainian history, there should be no
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Ukrainian future, this is much more important,
00:22:12
you understand,
00:22:13
they are guided by this instinctive
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or consciously understand Well, like our
00:22:18
predecessor does this They we will
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do
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Well, maybe, but I repeat anyway
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Here the global
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historical scale plays a role Yes, not not the scale
00:22:29
between and he is no longer the best eh
00:22:32
Medvedev himself is somehow they- in my opinion,
00:22:34
Siamese twins in their own way But of course, more
00:22:36
than the Bear may not
00:22:38
drink as much, but to be honest, so to speak. It’s not
00:22:41
much better for him to start a war for such a person.
00:22:46
Well, I don’t know. If this is really the case, maybe
00:22:48
we’ll find out about it after some years,
00:22:51
but I was very surprised if, so to
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speak, the decision about war was made
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under the influence of this kind of factors,
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someone’s media assets decided and
00:23:01
decided to start a war with his badge, I still
00:23:04
think in school that here the more significant
00:23:06
reasons were the historical
00:23:10
shuttlecock long ago, otherwise in that Ukrainian
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Vlada generally
00:23:15
disappeared into her Minsk persuasion, I
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beg you to find Ukraine for six months, otherwise they
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are trying
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I want you confused Budanov, he
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gave an interview to RBC Ukraine a long time ago and having said about the
00:23:29
test, almost evil documents
00:23:31
were added to the Pentagon, otherwise the secretary would be glad to see
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us without the PC of the Russian Federation Patrushev and the chief of staff
00:23:36
wanted Putin’s everyday plan even before
00:23:39
the slamming of Ukraine, after all, they saw the
00:23:41
activities behind the words of Budanov,
00:23:44
Patrushev, a mutually neutral position even
00:23:47
before guilt. But the mountain itself spoke for
00:23:49
Tuesday.
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You know, as for specific figures,
00:23:55
we can judge because there was a discussion on the Russian security website on the eve of the
00:23:58
invasion on February 20, 2022,
00:24:02
and the
00:24:06
issue of recognition is so called the DPR LPR
00:24:09
and there we also saw a lot Patrushev
00:24:11
really spoke out for a more restrained
00:24:13
position, we need to give one last chance we
00:24:15
must turn to the verbatim word for word there
00:24:17
he said the protocol was
00:24:19
posted Naturally they
00:24:21
filmed themselves and then only laid out
00:24:22
everything in parts and Patrushev really had a
00:24:25
position that was not radical an
00:24:28
immediate invasion, so to speak. We understood this,
00:24:30
it was read, maybe now in
00:24:32
hindsight, even stronger there, Naryshkin
00:24:34
was, so to speak, the head of the
00:24:36
SVR, but
00:24:38
from Gerasim it was impossible to say that
00:24:41
he was such an enthusiast of the invasion,
00:24:42
perhaps, as they say, we read
00:24:46
my publication, as it were. he had
00:24:47
slightly different plans, he proposed not to
00:24:48
invade immediately, but to start pushing the
00:24:51
plane into enemy territory with the help of a missile.
00:24:53
Was he a big
00:24:56
enthusiast of invasion? As such,
00:24:59
it was possible, but then This was a
00:25:01
completely suicidal plan; someone who Gerasimov
00:25:05
realized that it
00:25:09
would be impossible to defeat Ukraine just like that
00:25:12
that Ukraine, supported by the West,
00:25:14
actually receives weapons, is
00:25:16
trained in NATO countries, military
00:25:19
officers, and so on. That is, I still cannot imagine
00:25:22
that they did not understand the state of the
00:25:24
troops in Ukraine. It
00:25:28
seems to me that the military departments
00:25:29
more or less had information there,
00:25:32
the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense, maybe in
00:25:36
contrast to the Kremlin as such,
00:25:38
because the Kremlin received partial information
00:25:39
from them from others, including from the
00:25:41
notorious FSB Directorate, here is the General of
00:25:44
the Conversation, who at one time, by the way,
00:25:46
was on the 14th Maidan together with the marmot Well,
00:25:49
I came to Kiev at the moment So good, I
00:25:53
believe that here only partly the
00:25:55
real picture is painted. Probably it’s
00:25:58
really so that he could, out of
00:26:01
caution, assent to Putin. I
00:26:03
mean Gerasimov, but to imagine that he
00:26:06
did this. I sincerely did not understand what all was
00:26:08
fraught with. Well, with difficulty I can with difficulty Mark
00:26:12
the Great dyakuya washes away an hour before
00:26:15
studying before ours ether Igor
00:26:17
Aleksandrovich Hello, glad to
00:26:18
welcome you Hello, Mutually
00:26:21
you know for Ukraine there are now
00:26:23
many risks and the activation of China and the risks of
00:26:27
limited results in
00:26:28
a counter-offensive so that we understand
00:26:32
what We must be prepared for I have connections
00:26:34
with this Question Is there a scenario
00:26:37
with real chances Where is Putin will be
00:26:39
the winner of this war because there are
00:26:44
really a lot of scenarios where he loses and the regime falls, but it is
00:26:46
important for us to objectively see all the threats
00:26:49
that hang over our country,
00:26:53
you know, you are, of course, asking me a
00:26:56
serious riddle; this task is, in
00:26:59
general, somewhat not trivial, but
00:27:01
let’s try to think about it it means
00:27:04
that Putin is the winner in this war, the
00:27:07
most important thing here is to clarify. The fact is
00:27:10
that Putin initially when
00:27:13
he started this war did not have
00:27:17
articulated goals, that
00:27:20
is, Putin set the task of
00:27:22
several tasks
00:27:24
adenocification demilitarization of Ukraine,
00:27:26
in fact it was about complete
00:27:29
the liquidation of Ukrainian statehood
00:27:31
and the complete liquidation of the Ukrainian army and,
00:27:34
in fact, about the
00:27:36
transition of Ukraine to the liquidation of the
00:27:40
Ukrainian state and the transition of this state
00:27:42
under the full control of Russia,
00:27:45
such a scenario cannot happen. Well,
00:27:48
this scenario is simply from the realm of non-science
00:27:52
fiction, that is, in order to
00:27:54
achieve this kind of Victory if we are
00:27:58
really talking about Putin’s victory, but for
00:28:02
this he will need not only
00:28:05
to destroy the entire population of Ukraine, for
00:28:08
this we will also need to
00:28:10
somehow
00:28:12
defeat NATO, that is, in reality now
00:28:16
the West has firmly stood up to support Ukraine,
00:28:19
and the West sets itself the task of
00:28:22
achieving the defeat of Russian troops.
00:28:25
Therefore, here Let's dot the dots and
00:28:27
put a scenario in which Putin
00:28:29
wins since he initially started
00:28:33
this war, such a scenario does not exist.
00:28:35
That's me in general. Well, I just can't. With
00:28:39
all my imagination, I can imagine
00:28:42
what must happen for
00:28:45
this scenario to come true, there is no
00:28:47
likelihood of such a scenario zero
00:28:50
is the second level of what can be
00:28:53
considered a
00:28:55
victory for Putin. Well, let’s say that what he can
00:28:58
declare as his Victory is
00:29:01
what Prigozhin suggested to him. Prigogine, in
00:29:04
his April theses, he roughly
00:29:06
wrote what can be considered, that is, as
00:29:10
if in a situation where, by the way,
00:29:13
the head of the Ukrainian Intelligence Budanov
00:29:16
said something like this: Putin, in
00:29:19
any case, will not admit his
00:29:21
defeat and Russian Propaganda will
00:29:24
declare any defeat a victory. Well,
00:29:29
Prigozhin spoke in approximately the same vein, saying that we
00:29:32
urgently need to finish the operation now, we have already
00:29:34
won, Prigozhin says, and now we need to
00:29:37
roll on the territory that
00:29:39
now exists, let’s say this, well, here’s the idea Hmm,
00:29:44
to leave behind the territory
00:29:47
that is now occupied will become smoky,
00:29:50
as Prigogine puts it, and
00:29:54
end the war, so to speak, Is there a
00:29:57
likelihood of such a scenario? In
00:30:00
my opinion, the likelihood is extremely low
00:30:04
But here, in contrast from the first
00:30:06
scenario of Victory, according to Putin’s original plan, the
00:30:10
probability of such a Victory was
00:30:12
simply equal to zero. But here it is
00:30:15
small, but it is no longer equal to zero
00:30:17
because, well, in order for this
00:30:20
scenario to be
00:30:21
realized, for this it is necessary to first
00:30:24
prolong the war, then, so to speak,
00:30:27
Putin needs to achieve disruption of the
00:30:31
Ukrainian offensive, is this possible,
00:30:33
well, it’s hard to believe now, but nevertheless,
00:30:37
such a possibility cannot be ruled out at all,
00:30:40
so let’s say
00:30:41
the probability of such a scenario is that
00:30:44
Putin will succeed in uh What is called
00:30:47
rolling down on this territory uh truth
00:30:50
It’s clear How does
00:30:52
Ukraine deal with this
00:30:54
current situation Ukraine will not agree to
00:30:57
end the war at this point, this is
00:30:59
absolutely obvious, but in principle,
00:31:02
if the war drags on, there may be
00:31:05
some uncertainty. In short,
00:31:07
this can be considered a
00:31:09
victory for Putin according to such a Prigogine
00:31:14
scenario; again, the likelihood of this
00:31:16
Victory is extremely low. At the
00:31:18
moment, it is also excluded, but then
00:31:22
some kind of fork in the road already appears, and finally, the
00:31:25
last version of Putin’s Victory is, uh,
00:31:29
that means the entire
00:31:31
Ukrainian offensive is being fully successfully
00:31:34
implemented, uh, the occupation troops
00:31:37
are being thrown back to this line, uh, 1991,
00:31:43
and Putin declares that a victory is
00:31:47
the fact that it’s against NATO fought us,
00:31:50
it was not possible to capture Russia, Russia
00:31:53
survived and this is what is declared as
00:31:55
Putin’s victory, this is the version of
00:31:57
Putin’s Victory in very bold quotes, it is
00:32:00
generally seen as more or less
00:32:03
realistic That is, it all depends on
00:32:06
what we mean by
00:32:08
Putin’s victory
00:32:09
and then the probability of such a Victory
00:32:12
exists in the range from 0 Well to
00:32:16
quite high.
00:32:18
We mentioned our Western partners, we are of
00:32:22
course grateful to them for the uh volume of
00:32:24
supplies of these weapons that we have, but we
00:32:26
always say that this is not enough. And of
00:32:29
course we cannot exclude uh
00:32:31
what the Americans connected specifically with Biden,
00:32:34
when he invited our president to
00:32:37
Congress, he already connected the results of this
00:32:38
war with his reputation, uh, in fact, he basically
00:32:42
put it on the Victory of Ukraine and
00:32:45
said that we are with them to the end and uh, that’s what
00:32:47
they’re talking about, but again - for
00:32:51
example, the New York Times writes that
00:32:53
limited results in
00:32:55
the counter-offensive can
00:32:57
provoke a
00:32:58
decrease in the volume of arms supplies,
00:33:01
by the way, the journalist asked
00:33:04
our intelligence officer Budanov, the main one in
00:33:07
this interview that you just
00:33:09
mentioned, these are the risks they
00:33:12
actually create somehow precariously
00:33:14
some incomprehensible field, a field of
00:33:18
developments of various events at the same time, they
00:33:20
say Iran is supplying Russia with 300 thousand
00:33:24
shells in the Caspian Sea,
00:33:25
again the Americans can somehow
00:33:28
close this off, these supplies, how to
00:33:30
influence this, but they do not influence it completely, and here is the
00:33:33
incomprehensible situation here it is you know,
00:33:34
some kind of very mobile
00:33:37
Well, let's take it point by point, here's what you
00:33:40
said, let's try to analyze it,
00:33:42
let's start with the last one. Well,
00:33:44
these deliveries there, you mentioned the
00:33:48
figure of 300 thousand three hundred thousand shells.
00:33:51
There are a million bullets, it seems, there such figures
00:33:53
appeared here, these are the transfers
00:33:55
across the Caspian Sea This is of course What
00:33:59
they call it sounds scary But what is
00:34:00
300,000 shells? Well, there I don’t know
00:34:03
how many days military experts will say but
00:34:06
how many days of Russian
00:34:08
artillery work. That is, it’s a couple of
00:34:11
days of Russian artillery work, that
00:34:13
is, it’s not some completely crazy a
00:34:16
figure that can seriously change
00:34:19
the situation on the battlefield Well, so
00:34:21
these Iranian supplies, in general, well, they
00:34:24
sound scary. Here is Iran. Moreover, it is
00:34:28
China that supplies incomprehensible wounds. Well, God bless him, all this Hmm,
00:34:31
such insignificant help to the Russian
00:34:35
army that I wouldn’t
00:34:37
focus on this very much,
00:34:39
it means the second is more important. History is an
00:34:42
attempt to link
00:34:47
American assistance. Well, in particular,
00:34:49
NATO assistance with the successes of the Ukrainian
00:34:52
army, I have a firm opinion, I also
00:34:56
heard heard these positions, these views,
00:35:00
these points of view in including in the
00:35:03
American press, these are American
00:35:04
politicians, but I have a strong feeling that
00:35:07
here
00:35:08
our Western colleagues, as in such
00:35:12
cases, they say, they very much confuse
00:35:14
cause and effect. The fact is that the success of the
00:35:17
Ukrainian offensive depends on
00:35:20
Western assistance, on the contrary, it should be
00:35:23
so, that is, you understand, uh proceed from the fact
00:35:27
that the Wind blows because the trees are
00:35:29
swaying But you understand this, deep
00:35:33
deep childhood, adults don’t
00:35:36
think like that, it’s very strange to hear These are the
00:35:39
arguments from American
00:35:41
journalists and politicians because everything
00:35:44
should be exactly the opposite, that is, the
00:35:48
success of the Ukrainian offensive depends on
00:35:52
Western assistance and not the other way around Western
00:35:54
assistance should depend on the success of the
00:35:56
Ukrainian offensive because at
00:35:58
the moment, well, let’s dot this
00:36:00
and this is the
00:36:03
eleventh Rammstein that
00:36:06
passed, so did it become a turning point in the
00:36:10
situation, probably not, it was a
00:36:13
continuation of the previous position, it
00:36:17
was a formation tank fist,
00:36:19
this was the formation of
00:36:24
air defense there and so on. And where are the planes,
00:36:28
that is, without
00:36:31
the planes that are
00:36:34
associated with NATO weapons? At the
00:36:37
moment, Ukraine
00:36:39
is still losing to Russia in terms of the number of
00:36:42
aircraft, I don’t risk giving a figure now,
00:36:44
but some time ago this figure was an
00:36:47
order of magnitude then there are many more projects there
00:36:53
Well, let’s just say that for some
00:36:57
period of the war it was a loss by an
00:37:01
order of magnitude and in such conditions, of course, it is quite difficult to conduct an
00:37:03
offensive without
00:37:05
serious air support
00:37:08
and of course the losses will be large
00:37:11
in such a situation but uh planes
00:37:15
in particular uh f-16 as there were no and no
00:37:19
they certainly will appear. In some
00:37:21
distant future I’m not
00:37:24
trying to act as a
00:37:26
prosecutor there in relation to Western
00:37:29
politicians there are reasons there are reasons
00:37:31
there are reasons explanations, but Ukraine
00:37:35
pays with their lives and the West pays with
00:37:38
bureaucratic procedures, yes, well-
00:37:40
founded, yes, quite real, but
00:37:43
nevertheless, these are bureaucratic procedures, and
00:37:46
here we link and indeed Ukraine
00:37:49
will go on the offensive without having
00:37:52
some kind of
00:37:55
parity, at least in aviation, because the
00:37:58
Soviet ones are those Soviet planes that are
00:38:02
today moment they are delivered to
00:38:05
Ukraine, firstly, in class,
00:38:08
as far as I know, as far as the
00:38:10
military Expert says, they are still inferior to the
00:38:12
Russian ones, and secondly, of course there are simply
00:38:15
fewer of them, and therefore, of course, in this situation,
00:38:18
Ukraine will have more losses than if it
00:38:21
were if they were E there was
00:38:25
NATO aviation, so I
00:38:28
say again this is an inverted logic of linking
00:38:30
support for
00:38:33
Ukraine with successes and offensives it should
00:38:36
be the other way around, first
00:38:39
support and then successes
00:38:43
and I heard you, Prigozhin’s topic
00:38:46
can actually be deployed from completely
00:38:47
different vectors
00:38:49
I would like to touch upon for now,
00:38:53
let's put the topic of Prigozhin aside a little
00:38:55
because there is a more interesting one.
00:38:56
Peskov said the presidential elections in
00:38:59
Russia in 24 will take place, preparations
00:39:01
will be made in this regard, I have
00:39:04
a question for you: How many people will come to
00:39:06
the elections and if
00:39:08
young people come, let's say so matching the
00:39:12
description of mobilized
00:39:14
soldiers, they can immediately
00:39:16
go from the polling station to
00:39:18
Ukraine,
00:39:20
you know, in general, the conversation about the 2024 elections
00:39:24
seems to me Well, somehow,
00:39:28
you know, I, after all,
00:39:30
lived most of my life in the Soviet Union, I
00:39:33
remember very well how it was still there at the end of the
00:39:38
80s, everything is already already soon,
00:39:41
soon, so to speak, this coffin in
00:39:44
which the Soviet Union was kept, it has already
00:39:46
left the gates of the Crematorium, it is already on
00:39:50
the way, it is already playing, this is the funeral
00:39:53
music, soon the Soviet Union will play
00:39:55
in the box A e -uh, that means the party Soviet
00:39:59
bodies were still drawing up plans for the development of the
00:40:03
Soviet uh Soviet Union on the
00:40:08
socio-economic development of the
00:40:09
Soviet Soviet Union for 2030,
00:40:13
so I remember such plans are the end
00:40:16
of the eighties and they made plans for 2030
00:40:20
released to make God laugh Tell him about
00:40:22
your plans today the
00:40:24
planning horizon has been reduced Well, to a maximum of a
00:40:27
couple of months, maximum, or even that
00:40:31
week in some cases, so
00:40:33
Plan something for 2000 24 when
00:40:37
we don’t know what will happen this
00:40:40
year, our scenarios for 2023 are very
00:40:43
probabilistic And the further we go
00:40:45
we look into the future, the more forks that
00:40:48
appear we Frankly speaking, we
00:40:51
cannot say with certainty Whether
00:40:53
a country called the
00:40:54
Russian Federation will exist in 2024, it
00:40:58
largely depends on the Ukrainian
00:41:01
offensive, we cannot say what
00:41:03
will happen to Putin in 2024, it largely
00:41:06
depends on success Ukrainian
00:41:08
offensive and therefore predicts what
00:41:11
will happen in the 2024 elections is quite
00:41:14
difficult. If you still
00:41:16
imagine, why not set up
00:41:20
the only experiment that the elections
00:41:21
took place Putin is in place the country is in
00:41:24
place the regime is in place everything is fine with them, then
00:41:28
in this situation it seems to me that there is no it does
00:41:30
n’t matter what will happen, how
00:41:35
the Voters will behave, because there have
00:41:37
never been any Voters in Russia. Well,
00:41:40
at some point they appeared like that,
00:41:42
something depended on them, but
00:41:45
everything will depend, in fact,
00:41:48
nothing will even depend on
00:41:50
Panfilova but she will calculate as necessary
00:41:53
there will be a complete 100% Victory for
00:41:55
Putin Putin will need to draw 200%,
00:41:58
it will be necessary 98 Well, if for some
00:42:01
reason they want to draw them all for him 75 that’s
00:42:04
all as for
00:42:07
sending it to the frontez of polling
00:42:10
stations Well again I say we are now
00:42:14
building, offering thought
00:42:16
experiments with a huge number of
00:42:17
unknowns, we don’t know what will happen in
00:42:21
2024, whether the war will continue in what
00:42:25
state it will be, that is, well,
00:42:28
the likelihood is that
00:42:30
young people will be taken away from polling
00:42:33
stations. Well, theoretically possible, but it
00:42:36
seems to me that it will be quite unlikely
00:42:37
because by that time there will still be an
00:42:39
opportunity either or if the war
00:42:42
continues then uh Well, most likely
00:42:46
uh after all Hmm the mobilization
00:42:49
reserve will be replenished in other
00:42:52
ways And so frankly to scare off the
00:42:54
elections Well I don’t know I don’t I’m sure I
00:42:58
doubt that such an option
00:43:01
exists. At least to me, it does
00:43:04
n’t seem to me yet. Probably
00:43:07
all these risks that you voiced, they seem to
00:43:09
indicate that Putin has the situation
00:43:12
out of control, he has his entourage.
00:43:14
They understand that this is the horizon
00:43:17
planning, it is not so far and great,
00:43:20
but by declaring about this news that
00:43:23
they are supposedly planning something there, they are in this
00:43:24
way apparently trying to show that everything is
00:43:27
as it was and continues to go,
00:43:30
yes. Of course, Putin and his entourage
00:43:34
are counting on an inertial scenario for
00:43:36
that that everything in reality,
00:43:38
starting from February 24 last year, Putin
00:43:45
decided on this bloody
00:43:48
criminal adventure, he sharply reduced the
00:43:52
controllability of the country because,
00:43:54
firstly, the war is already
00:43:57
uncontrollable. History is, well, he no longer
00:43:59
controls, so to speak, the state of affairs
00:44:02
at the front he does not control the state of
00:44:04
his army, he does not control losses for
00:44:07
obvious reasons, and he has largely lost
00:44:10
control over a number of related issues, that
00:44:13
is, war is an uncontrollable
00:44:15
story by definition, and those areas
00:44:18
that are associated with war
00:44:21
are also under his control, so
00:44:24
he certainly sharply reduced the degree of
00:44:28
controllability of the processes in So they
00:44:32
were not one hundred percent under his
00:44:34
control. But at least it was possible to
00:44:36
do. After all, now this is already quite
00:44:38
noticeable; more and more people are
00:44:40
talking about this in a low voice, or even in a full voice,
00:44:44
as for example the international criminal Girkin is shouting about this at the top of his lungs,
00:44:48
who,
00:44:51
so to speak, is now very harshly
00:44:54
criticizing Putin’s regime from the side of
00:44:56
even more
00:44:58
even more Stalinism, relatively
00:45:01
speaking, that’s why Well, in a low voice
00:45:06
they talk about it there in telephone conversations,
00:45:09
it is known in the case of wiretapping of Putin’s
00:45:11
hellos who use obscenities they scold him, that is, the
00:45:14
degree of Putin’s lack of control over the situation
00:45:17
increased very sharply after the
00:45:19
twenty-fourth and is becoming more and
00:45:22
less in control and Putin
00:45:25
will give a speech at the Victory Parade on
00:45:27
Red Square on May 9, here you are telling
00:45:30
the news from April 27 to May 10, 23
00:45:33
Red Square will be closed to
00:45:36
the public Let's also do
00:45:39
this thought experiment when
00:45:41
Putin gives this speech and if,
00:45:44
after all, a Ukrainian drone flies
00:45:45
with the inscription Glory to Ukraine it will land on this
00:45:49
square during this parade. Perhaps
00:45:52
it may not even be a Ukrainian
00:45:54
drone it will be a drone
00:45:55
that will be launched by someone from Russia and
00:45:57
simply as a sign of solidarity will thus
00:46:00
show its position if we do see this picture,
00:46:04
how much of a
00:46:06
reputational impact it is. It’s psychologically possible that it will
00:46:08
hit Putin.
00:46:11
Yes, of course it will be very strong blows.
00:46:14
It will be, well, let’s put it this way, of course I think
00:46:17
that all measures will be taken to
00:46:19
avoid this, but theoretically
00:46:22
there is such a possibility and in general we have seen
00:46:25
what is happening. We have seen that
00:46:27
indeed, firstly, Ukrainian
00:46:29
drones fly and they fly
00:46:31
at a distance. They fly to Moscow and fly to
00:46:35
St. Petersburg, so here it is like this
00:46:37
there is a possibility, of course it will be a very
00:46:39
strong blow.
00:46:41
Well, obviously it will be, but I don’t
00:46:45
know what is stronger. I think that
00:46:46
after all, the strongest blow will be for
00:46:49
Crimea to pay off, but this requires obviously
00:46:52
large resources. Therefore, here is such
00:46:55
a drone, let’s say
00:46:58
anonymous mechanical matius, uh, if
00:47:02
you remember, there was this guy, uh, that means
00:47:05
who flew in a
00:47:07
small plane to Red Square and
00:47:10
landed, uh, to the horror of everyone, all the
00:47:14
Soviet air defense and the Soviet leadership,
00:47:16
but if such an
00:47:19
automatic mechanical one arrives, then
00:47:23
it will certainly be a very strong blow. Well,
00:47:25
I hope that surprise Maybe it will come
00:47:28
true, it will be a good story What do
00:47:30
you think? Putin
00:47:32
really sees this picture that a Ukrainian
00:47:34
drone can land or is he
00:47:36
deeply convinced that this is absolutely
00:47:38
impossible
00:47:41
I think that Putin is so No, I think that
00:47:45
he can, he allows this and he sees
00:47:49
conspiracies everywhere, he sees dangers everywhere, so to
00:47:52
speak, as for danger,
00:47:54
he sees it, I think that we,
00:47:57
taking into account everything that we know for these,
00:48:00
even we still
00:48:03
in Russia analyzed what
00:48:06
Putin is long before
00:48:09
he came to power, there was also an
00:48:11
investigation into Solye, that is, well, in
00:48:12
general, this character has been familiar to us in one way or
00:48:15
another for about 30 years. Therefore,
00:48:17
I think that they have already been able to study him.
00:48:22
Yes, he is a conspiracy theorist, he
00:48:25
believes in conspiracies, he believes that such a
00:48:28
danger there is and
00:48:30
will try very hard to avoid it,
00:48:32
and Putin’s press secretary Peskov
00:48:34
commented on the information about the
00:48:37
president’s doubles, you know, when I saw
00:48:38
the headline I decided to look at what he would
00:48:40
say, I had hopes that he
00:48:42
would somehow argue for this position, they will say
00:48:45
no because first second third
00:48:47
fourth Of course, my hopes
00:48:49
instantly burned out As soon as I saw
00:48:51
that Peskov was simply saying Yes, everything is not always
00:48:53
normal, everything is fine, and he is also ours
00:48:56
So healthy that I wish everyone
00:48:57
this health Why even raise this
00:49:00
topic If you cannot reasonably
00:49:03
dispel these myths and they believe
00:49:06
that this is enough for Russians or that
00:49:09
this is really enough for Russians,
00:49:11
these words without arguments
00:49:14
I think I think yes I think that well,
00:49:18
you know And what arguments can be
00:49:19
put forward against the obvious fact that
00:49:22
Diaries doubles are to blame there were doubles
00:49:26
and there will be them they were not only
00:49:29
Putin’s had them And a number of
00:49:32
leaders of other countries. Of course,
00:49:34
Putin has them, they were, so to
00:49:37
speak, as far as I know,
00:49:41
other leaders of the state, that’s why it’s
00:49:46
stupid to deny
00:49:48
this, this opinion is the
00:49:52
following: that he’s so afraid of the path.
00:49:55
So she’s holding on to this everyone that and
00:49:58
additional people who can
00:50:00
replace him is still a risk for him too
00:50:04
No this is this I think that this is absolutely
00:50:08
this what is called a joke too subtle
00:50:10
for our circus because well what is
00:50:13
a double a double is a person who
00:50:15
looks like Putin, but this is not the
00:50:18
person you know, this is from the
00:50:20
region from the region, a TV brand for some
00:50:23
things, uh, that means, uh, there are uh, beggar princes,
00:50:27
and so on. All this is all This is a completely
00:50:29
different story. I think that there is
00:50:31
no such possibility. because, after all, Hmm,
00:50:34
a figure who, uh, to a large extent, uh,
00:50:38
so to speak, well, uh, performs important
00:50:41
functions, this is not some technical
00:50:43
person who represents there,
00:50:45
this is a
00:50:47
person who is entrusted with the uh
00:50:50
functions of such an observer Decided a very
00:50:54
important function uh and uh I think that,
00:50:58
so to speak, some kind of technical person,
00:51:01
such a
00:51:04
doll, of course, cannot replace him and
00:51:07
no one will go for it, that is,
00:51:09
imagine that some kind of coup is being carried out
00:51:10
and instead of Putin, a Talking
00:51:14
doll is installed that looks like him,
00:51:16
this is not science fiction I think that
00:51:19
no one envisages such a version,
00:51:22
you understand, and there’s
00:51:25
one more thing that seems significant to me,
00:51:27
now they’re saying
00:51:29
that uh, instead of Putin, there was a double there, there
00:51:32
was a double, which means uh Hmm it looks
00:51:35
like this uh
00:51:38
absolutely impossible uh for example It’s
00:51:54
absolutely impossible to put a double in negotiations, for example, with someone there. Yes, even with some Russian statesman, for example, in negotiations with the governor, it’s absolutely impossible. I’m
00:51:56
not even talking in Hmm, even in dialogue,
00:51:59
when they showed him in Mariupol
00:52:01
Mariupol and there, showing conversations with
00:52:05
some local workers,
00:52:08
absolutely one hundred percent that it was
00:52:10
Putin and not a double, because to show the
00:52:13
face of a person speaking up close
00:52:15
and pass it off as a double is
00:52:20
impossible. It was done differently,
00:52:23
of course, Putin was not in any Mariupol
00:52:24
and that’s just editing elementary
00:52:28
editing So one person means in
00:52:33
some kind of
00:52:36
intimate studio setting they are talking with
00:52:39
some people dressed up in
00:52:41
working robots and another person
00:52:44
is traveling on the sea uh and he is shown
00:52:48
uh from afar, in the first case Putin in the
00:52:53
second case is a double that is of course
00:52:55
Mosfilm This is not Hollywood, but they
00:52:58
know how to edit there. Frankly, there
00:53:02
we see all sorts of Klyuchide
00:53:05
action films that are made at Mosfilm and
00:53:08
they are quite capable of doing such
00:53:10
editing if there stuntmen replace the
00:53:12
actors quite successfully, in one case there is a
00:53:15
close-up of the artist smiling there
00:53:18
and crying here this is a real artist and in
00:53:21
another case a stuntman who is
00:53:23
shown from the back or in a long shot So
00:53:26
all this I’m just saying is that doubles are
00:53:29
never
00:53:31
shown in close-up, so the
00:53:34
likelihood that a double will replace
00:53:37
Putin is real after a shift there Well, this is not
00:53:41
science fiction and of course there are doubles,
00:53:43
they perform an important function. Putin,
00:53:46
of course, didn’t go to any Donbass.
00:53:49
Putin didn’t go to any Mariupol. It’s
00:53:52
absolutely obvious they were doubles. And
00:53:54
communication with the audience means it would have
00:53:58
been filmed in a pavilion, and all this
00:54:02
is done quite professionally.
00:54:04
Okay, that’s according to at least Russian
00:54:06
filmmakers Despite everything that Shakhnazarov
00:54:09
did with Mosfilm,
00:54:10
nevertheless, Mosfilm remained a fairly
00:54:14
professional
00:54:16
film studio, but they still leave
00:54:18
the opportunity to guess that this is editing,
00:54:21
when Peskov said that
00:54:23
the president does not sit in any bunkers, I
00:54:26
immediately I remembered this video
00:54:28
where his hand passed through the microphone
00:54:29
and they somehow proved that he was just
00:54:33
sitting on a green background and then separately
00:54:35
they filmed these people who were sitting supposedly
00:54:37
listening to him. Well, it was like a montage.
00:54:39
Well, this is a continuation of your thought.
00:54:42
Next question I have This is what Peskov
00:54:44
says if I get fired. So I was mistaken.
00:54:47
But so far I’m holding on to nothing. This phrase
00:54:49
is directly related to the situation with
00:54:52
Peskov’s son.
00:54:55
Well, it’s hard for me to say. I think that Peskov,
00:54:59
in principle,
00:55:01
Putin has repeatedly
00:55:04
explained How he feels about Peskov.
00:55:06
Peskov is bringing a snowstorm, as is known, and so
00:55:09
on. All these famous phrases, in general,
00:55:10
this is the humiliation of subordinates, so
00:55:13
to speak, humiliation. Well, this is the usual, I
00:55:17
would say, domestic industrial
00:55:18
sadism, which is very characteristic of
00:55:21
Putin as of every person who
00:55:23
suffers from a deep
00:55:25
inferiority complex. And Peskov naturally
00:55:29
understands perfectly his position, that
00:55:31
is, his fate hangs in the balance
00:55:34
Putin's relationship is in the balance. As for his son,
00:55:37
well, Peskov, like many of Putin's
00:55:42
colas, was unlucky with his offspring, he has a son,
00:55:46
at least this
00:55:49
son who is now married to a fighter, Chevak
00:55:54
Warner. Well, frankly speaking, he is a rather
00:55:58
disgusting creature known to him
00:56:00
behavior in London where he was exiled
00:56:02
for bad behavior in Russia known
00:56:04
numerous rather foul-
00:56:08
smelling scandals that he had here in Russia
00:56:10
I don’t even want to touch on his
00:56:12
visits to all sorts of dens his behavior
00:56:16
on the road numerous fines when he
00:56:20
drove for his tests Well, that is, uh - uh, in
00:56:24
general, such a young man with Well, like a young man of
00:56:27
33 years old, guys already, but at least with a
00:56:30
very stormy youth and an even more
00:56:33
stormy youth, and
00:56:36
naturally, I do not exclude even the
00:56:40
initiative to arrange this staging
00:56:42
with the adoption of Peskov’s son by Prigozhin. I don’t
00:56:46
rule out that this was even from
00:56:50
Putin. I don’t have any evidence of
00:56:52
any exclusiveness, but I don’t rule out that
00:56:55
this is possible because indeed the
00:56:57
fact that not a
00:57:00
single
00:57:01
son of the Russian elite went to the
00:57:07
front, this type of punishment was for
00:57:10
some kind of offense or Why is this
00:57:13
not a punishment, this is an excuse, but
00:57:16
he didn’t serve in any Wagner, he
00:57:18
wasn’t there anywhere, he didn’t appear there at all. But
00:57:21
there is evidence that at the moment
00:57:23
when it is formally considered that he
00:57:25
should have been there at that moment his
00:57:27
Tesla took the initiative on its own, so to speak,
00:57:29
participated in
00:57:31
several road
00:57:33
accidents and paid fines on its own, the
00:57:35
likelihood of that means
00:57:39
someone else was driving the Tesla, but it is
00:57:41
extremely small, that is, that Peskov
00:57:44
does not have a car, he needs to use his
00:57:46
son’s car or someone else gave it to a friend
00:57:49
Well, this is nonsense. In addition, there is
00:57:52
evidence that many saw
00:57:54
Peskov at the moment when he had to,
00:57:56
excuse me, in quotes, defend his homeland,
00:57:59
uh, that means, as part of the dude Varnen, he
00:58:03
was seen in completely different places, but the same thing
00:58:07
is already evidence from
00:58:10
what’s more insidious about the fact that no one, so to speak,
00:58:12
artilleryman Peskov, no one,
00:58:17
so to speak, saw Bakhmut or in solidarity
00:58:20
anywhere, that is, well, there wasn’t.
00:58:22
There, well, maybe he was brought somewhere, so to
00:58:25
speak, hundreds of kilometers from the
00:58:28
front line, they dressed him up in camouflage covered
00:58:32
his face and forced him to say a few words.
00:58:34
This is the famous shooting e Soloviev. It is
00:58:38
quite possible that this was the only
00:58:40
episode when Hmm, this son of Peskov
00:58:44
was not far from the front line and
00:58:47
was dressed up in this camouflage. That is,
00:58:51
I am absolutely sure that there was no
00:58:53
half-year of service there there
00:58:57
was no trace of the guy Wagner, but they say that
00:58:59
Prigozhin may have appeared. A patron
00:59:01
in the Ministry of Defense, if my memory serves me correctly,
00:59:04
you said that this is their deal between
00:59:07
Prigozhin and Peskov, it is based on the
00:59:10
financial side of the issue. And I have a
00:59:13
question for you: can there be this is not
00:59:14
the financial side of the issue. Could it be
00:59:16
that it was Peskov who became
00:59:19
Prigozhin’s patron, what was written about in the media, and
00:59:22
can Peskov lobby these
00:59:25
ideas of Prigozhin about digging in
00:59:28
to defend himself, that is, promoting Putin
00:59:30
through him?
00:59:32
Well, let’s just say I naturally don’t have
00:59:36
payments that indicates
00:59:39
that Peskov paid something to Prigozhin, this
00:59:43
was a hypothesis. I think that this is what he
00:59:47
paid and how he is going to pay with
00:59:48
political patronage, or
00:59:51
financially, so to speak, this is a different
00:59:54
story. I think that Prigozhin, uh, is
00:59:56
so
00:59:58
financially isolated. That is, those amounts
01:00:01
which are the funds that he receives
01:00:02
from Africa from the robbery of the Central
01:00:05
African Republic and other Hmm
01:00:07
African and uh
01:00:11
Middle Eastern countries. They are so
01:00:13
great, plus the crazy money that
01:00:16
he sucks out of the budget of both the
01:00:18
Federal and regional ones, so of
01:00:20
course there are some measly several
01:00:23
million dollars that we can
01:00:25
give Peskov for
01:00:28
his son’s medal, it’s all pennies, of course. And
01:00:31
Poly’s patronage Yes, I think that
01:00:33
Peskov is far from the only person
01:00:36
with whom Prigozhin is establishing
01:00:39
contacts from among such an
01:00:42
establishment, his negotiations are known,
01:00:44
his meetings with gold, his negotiations Well,
01:00:47
I I’m not talking about his strong
01:00:49
friendship with Kadyrov,
01:00:52
Prigozhin is very supportive of Solovyov
01:00:55
Margarita Simonyan, that is, he has
01:00:57
strong support on Russian TV.
01:00:59
So the rumors that he is isolated and that he is
01:01:02
opposed by the
01:01:05
deep state, which
01:01:08
Prigozhin publicly declared war on,
01:01:11
these rumors are very greatly exaggerated, this
01:01:15
deep state is all in cracks
01:01:18
and into these cracks, like an
01:01:21
experienced parasite, Prigozhin is constantly crawling,
01:01:24
trying to use them, so to speak, to somehow
01:01:26
use his advantage, the likelihood
01:01:28
that it is Peskov who is
01:01:31
the conductor of
01:01:33
Prigogine’s idea in relation to Putin,
01:01:36
perhaps I’m just not sure that
01:01:39
Peskov is the person whom
01:01:42
Putin will listen to. I think that
01:01:45
Possibly Perhaps you are right, but
01:01:48
Prigogine, firstly, has personal contact
01:01:51
with Putin, he meets with Putin,
01:01:53
he has a great opportunity to
01:01:55
convey his ideas without an intermediary, and as
01:01:58
for this idea to urgently stop
01:02:01
the war And it’s zakoptitsa this is an idea I think
01:02:07
that it was made specifically for
01:02:09
Putin in order to give him the
01:02:12
opportunity to this dream of Putin, in
01:02:14
fact today he still understands that in
01:02:17
general something is going wrong and
01:02:19
somehow he needs some kind of respite and
01:02:21
of course this dream Putin is not by chance all
01:02:24
the well-wishers all of Putin’s allies in the
01:02:28
range here Xi Jinping to So that
01:02:31
means loota Silva of the Brazilian
01:02:34
president they are all talking about the
01:02:36
need for a truce they are all talking
01:02:38
about the fact that it is necessary, so to speak, to exchange peace
01:02:41
for uh Ukrainian territories So
01:02:44
Putin is in Prigogine is very interested in this, he
01:02:46
just gives him a good
01:02:49
formula to
01:02:53
pack this idea into it.
01:02:56
Can we say, let’s say, let’s
01:03:00
build a theory like this, that until the
01:03:02
moment they, well, there are their relatives, He’s a
01:03:06
son participating in this war, that’s how I would
01:03:08
directly state this. I, of course, have
01:03:10
your position that he was not there, but still
01:03:13
it is demonstrated this way, and until this
01:03:15
moment, as if he had this son,
01:03:18
Peskov had the opportunity to say that
01:03:21
we were held hostage, a gun at
01:03:23
Visk, we were forced to speak Now
01:03:24
all this has passed and now it turns out that it’s
01:03:27
not just words, not just language, it’s like
01:03:29
awe, but specifically it’s like
01:03:31
they’ve gotten their hands dirty. If
01:03:34
we talk about it like that, he was there. Could this
01:03:37
be some kind of new political
01:03:39
vector of support for this special operation?
01:03:41
or some kind of development
01:03:45
I’m not sure that in order to
01:03:55
increase the corpus delicti there, to make the
01:03:58
corpus delicti more serious, they all need to
01:04:01
be at the front. The fact is that if
01:04:03
we take Listen to
01:04:06
that warrant for the arrest of Putin and this
01:04:12
lady, the commissioner about Lvov Belova
01:04:14
means the ombudsman for children's rights,
01:04:17
he was given up, uh, not because Putin was
01:04:21
there personally. He was at the front, he
01:04:24
killed someone, and those main
01:04:29
war criminals who ended up on
01:04:32
trial at the non-Western tribunal, they,
01:04:36
too, were not personally at the front, not Goering,
01:04:40
not er Ribbentrop no uh no Yuri prime they
01:04:45
were not at the front at least so to
01:04:48
speak no They changed everything that
01:04:51
is called remotely supervised
01:04:53
the process and these are the war
01:04:56
criminals that we are talking about
01:04:57
in particular Peskov and there and Lavrov this is
01:05:01
our Ribbentrop and Shoigu and Putin and everyone
01:05:06
else are war criminals. Not
01:05:09
because they did something at the front,
01:05:10
they are war criminals because they
01:05:12
organized the war. They justified this war.
01:05:15
They promoted this war and
01:05:19
they are actually the main
01:05:22
culprits of this war. So I think
01:05:25
that uh presence at the front here
01:05:29
strongly there uh on the sofa of a military uniform
01:05:32
here doesn’t change much, it
01:05:35
changes a lot for an
01:05:36
ordinary citizen who
01:05:40
in one case becomes simply uh very
01:05:43
so to speak,
01:05:45
including other citizens of Russia,
01:05:47
responsible from the point of view of
01:05:49
imposing general sanctions on the Russian
01:05:51
Federation and in another case he becomes a
01:05:53
war criminal Well, here there
01:05:55
is a difference, but for
01:05:57
deputies, State Duma deputies are already all
01:06:00
war criminals and Peskov
01:06:03
is already a war criminal because
01:06:06
they fall under participation in
01:06:10
organizing a war, this is a more serious
01:06:12
crime than even just crossing the
01:06:14
Ukrainian border with weapons hands
01:06:17
Thank you Igor Aleksandrovich with this
01:06:19
we will end our interview I was glad to
01:06:21
talk with you to hear your answers and
01:06:23
I want to I want to wish you a good day
01:06:26
all the best good luck
01:06:29
technologist
01:06:31
Glory to Ukraine
01:06:33
hero Slava Hello Good evening then both
01:06:37
you and the marketing vurhanka
01:06:42
will be leaving the exits in the hall I had time
01:06:46
far away It seems to me that we have more food for
01:06:50
care, I to, in principle, I myself want it to
01:06:52
be directly signed by
01:06:57
Russia, I ask and think
01:07:01
we add after a row
01:07:04
two Ukraine contracts are added from Russia and what kind of
01:07:07
mother are you against otherwise, well, nothing on your
01:07:10
Duka, that’s [ __ ] up for him one
01:07:13
year since the Pallas's cat slam the
01:07:15
door again, uh, jump on this cold
01:07:18
soul and jump Okay, we've gone too far,
01:07:24
just like last time, it
01:07:25
will definitely happen because naturally they have an
01:07:27
agreement with Turkey, not with us here. Important
01:07:29
As they say, who is the mediator It’s not just that
01:07:32
not any intermediary is suitable, you know,
01:07:34
Israel imposed itself on the intermediaries. I remember,
01:07:36
but Israel will not be suitable if Russia
01:07:38
signs an agreement with Israel, he will cheat
01:07:40
Israel the same way he would cheat us, but
01:07:42
Turkey cannot cheat because
01:07:44
Russia is completely dependent on Turkey
01:07:45
now for supplies everything, and
01:07:47
so on, if China is a mediator,
01:07:50
Russia won’t be able to cheat China. Well, it
01:07:51
just won’t be able to. Because if Russia
01:07:53
cheats China, then China will arrange such an
01:07:55
economic blockade of this Russia that it wo
01:07:57
n’t seem enough. Therefore, yes, it’s like it’s
01:08:00
not even quite noticeable, it’s not even
01:08:01
quite an agreement with a mediator Usually,
01:08:03
when there is an intermediary, it is a Tripartite
01:08:05
Agreement. But here there are two different agreements
01:08:07
Russia, Turkey and Ukraine Turkey does not have a
01:08:10
Triple Agreement, that’s why Yes, they
01:08:13
will comply. Moreover,
01:08:15
we already have indirect evidence
01:08:16
of this, note that these are these toads. They are
01:08:19
very naive Yes that we
01:08:21
used the corridors that were used for grain
01:08:23
for our drones,
01:08:25
these naval ones, with the help of which we
01:08:28
attacked some ships in
01:08:29
Sevastopol, but this is funny in the sense that these
01:08:31
corridors go to Sevastopol or something. What kind of
01:08:33
nonsense is this Yes, the famous
01:08:35
Sevastopol grain corridors, this is the
01:08:37
first time we’ve done this we hear, and finally Lavrov,
01:08:39
whom he directly asked So
01:08:42
now everything will end, the grain deal. He
01:08:45
tried not to embarrass himself, tried not to
01:08:47
lie because he had to
01:08:48
threaten to shout ah-ah-ah and
01:08:50
close everything, but you know, yes, instead
01:08:52
the journalist said, Oh, a beautiful dress
01:08:54
here he behaved absolutely sexist
01:08:57
Well, this is sexism, but it’s still her,
01:09:00
if it were a man, he would have
01:09:02
said nice pants Well, it would have
01:09:03
been normal, then it would
01:09:06
have already been accused of LGBT propaganda That’s
01:09:08
why Lavrov is like this
01:09:11
once again, the movie was ugly,
01:09:14
even the doctor didn’t say that they will get out of this
01:09:16
grain deal,
01:09:18
Mikhail, we started our hour of
01:09:23
discussion and reflection. And on the topic
01:09:26
Why did it suddenly happen that And the guys at the
01:09:30
steam brigade, Medvedev and everyone else
01:09:33
pulled themselves up again with a nuclear bomb What happened there
01:09:37
the parade is under threat The Ninth of May is under
01:09:40
threat there will be a new Victory Yes, maybe
01:09:45
not the Ninth of May, but nevertheless Well, it’s like
01:09:47
some strange argument that you either
01:09:50
use it or not
01:09:53
means why now there is a
01:09:56
simple explanation thanks to our
01:09:58
last blows that were a lot yesterday
01:10:01
strikes on the territory of, firstly, Russia,
01:10:02
these drones, we don’t know to be honest,
01:10:05
that where they flew, we know
01:10:07
about a fallen drone with an
01:10:10
explosive of 11 kilograms of TNT,
01:10:13
the Moscow region, right in the Moscow region, the
01:10:14
second was a certain drone with
01:10:17
parachutes, which also fell somewhere there,
01:10:18
and the third here is a video that is circulating on
01:10:21
the Internet but the origin is unknown, but
01:10:22
nevertheless it is circulating. This is
01:10:24
a drone on Red Square that is
01:10:26
flying and controlled clearly by someone
01:10:29
Ukrainian because the coat of arms of Ukraine is
01:10:30
even depicted there, plus this night
01:10:33
attack on the Black Sea Fleet base in
01:10:35
Sevastopol which
01:10:36
obviously something good For us, not bad For
01:10:40
them, it ended Well, judging by the sound of the explosions
01:10:42
that were shown and Judging by the broken
01:10:44
windows around the Sevastopol Bay, it’s clearly
01:10:47
not what they themselves
01:10:48
said, that it’s all nonsense on the outer
01:10:50
roadstead, but they themselves decided
01:10:52
Why did we see the draft deal come out We
01:10:54
damaged something there, we just
01:10:56
unfortunately can’t We don’t have
01:10:57
video evidence What we did there
01:10:59
last time if you remember When in
01:11:01
late October early November we carried out
01:11:03
such a massive strike with these same
01:11:05
naval drones it all
01:11:07
ended so successfully that we
01:11:08
even had video evidence of the explosion of
01:11:11
Russian ships, that’s why they are at this
01:11:13
moment as soon as we hit their
01:11:14
territory, well, Crimea is their territory, and the fact
01:11:16
that we were in Moscow they constantly
01:11:19
threaten with nuclear weapons. So
01:11:23
every time it’s like this. Now when you
01:11:25
say that let them strike at once,
01:11:27
and so on. Which is not there, there
01:11:30
is another interesting nuance. The fact is
01:11:32
that a threat with nuclear weapons to a
01:11:34
non-nuclear state and not a threat to us,
01:11:37
that is, to a non-nuclear state, this
01:11:40
is equated. According to the convention of the
01:11:42
proliferation of nuclear weapons, this is equivalent to a
01:11:44
nuclear strike. That is in fact, according to the
01:11:47
documents, they have already done this, they have already
01:11:50
used nuclear weapons against no
01:11:52
nuclear weapons so that ours emphasized the threat
01:11:54
also counts. And if you
01:11:57
take this convention of 1968, which is a
01:12:01
much more reliable document than the
01:12:02
Budapest memorandum, because it was
01:12:04
signed by 170 states and according to
01:12:07
this convention on the non-proliferation of
01:12:09
nuclear weapons, if a nuclear power
01:12:11
threatens a non-nuclear power, then the other four
01:12:13
nuclear powers must strike at it;
01:12:16
attention must
01:12:18
repel aggression militarily, that is,
01:12:21
today’s threat, for example, is an
01:12:23
absolute reason for the United States, France, Britain and
01:12:26
China to strike at the Russian
01:12:27
Federation and it is very strange why so far
01:12:30
not only is this not being done,
01:12:32
this topic is not even being discussed, it is directly
01:12:34
destroying this treaty, not the
01:12:37
proliferation of nuclear weapons is
01:12:42
scary for them, but I mean the
01:12:45
Westerners and China also don’t really
01:12:47
want to speak out alone, the point is that’s why the
01:12:49
treaty of ’68 has the
01:12:52
treaty itself and there is, as an appendix to the
01:12:54
resolution of the General Assembly, and so
01:12:57
it says something like the following: if a
01:12:58
nuclear power threatens a non-nuclear one, then
01:13:01
each of the others individually, not
01:13:03
necessarily all together, without waiting for a
01:13:05
decision of the UN Security Council, must
01:13:08
protect this non-nuclear power and
01:13:11
repel aggression during this time the
01:13:13
Russian Federation threatened So, according to
01:13:16
my calculations, seven non-nuclear countries
01:13:18
were threatened with nuclear weapons, I now
01:13:21
mean, of course, threats only at the
01:13:22
state level, that is,
01:13:23
Solovyov never counts there, it’s all just
01:13:25
some private individuals, their personal opinion.
01:13:27
But exactly when are the people responsible for the
01:13:30
use of nuclear weapons for example,
01:13:31
Dmitry Medvedev is responsible as Deputy
01:13:33
Secretary of the Security Council and so
01:13:35
they managed to threaten Ukraine with Poland
01:13:38
last time if you remember When Poland
01:13:39
said that uh Ukraine has the right to
01:13:43
strike at the territory of the Russian
01:13:44
Federation Medvedev said that Poland
01:13:46
will be destroyed for this he
01:13:48
will not be threatened at all with nuclear weapons Then they
01:13:51
threatened Belgium when you say that a
01:13:54
nuclear strike will be carried out on Brussels they threatened
01:13:56
the Netherlands when you say that according to the court in
01:13:58
Gaga they will carry out a nuclear strike they threatened Lithuania
01:14:01
Latvia to
01:14:02
someone else for someone else I forgot already
01:14:04
all this is an absolute case these and in
01:14:07
this there is a terrible threat to the world in
01:14:09
fact, which is what it is,
01:14:11
let’s assume everything will be fine, we will win
01:14:13
this war, but all the countries of the world see
01:14:15
that the proliferation treaty is not
01:14:17
working, that they are defenseless, this is not the
01:14:20
Budapest memorandum, this is an agreement according to
01:14:21
which they have refused to create
01:14:24
nuclear weapons I hope in the countries of the mountains
01:14:26
and then the question arises, let’s take the
01:14:29
United Arab Emirates as an example,
01:14:31
the country is going to launch astronauts in general, it’s launching
01:14:33
satellites Yes, it’s
01:14:35
launching a mission to the moon to Mars, it’s clear that
01:14:37
creating nuclear weapons for the Emirates will take
01:14:39
several months there,
01:14:40
that is, they will no longer
01:14:42
count on what -the mythical
01:14:43
guarantees of China The USA will of course create
01:14:46
nuclear weapons. Moreover, in Israel
01:14:48
they exist there, I don’t know. Brazil is a
01:14:50
high-tech country with its own planes,
01:14:52
trains, whatever you want. It will also
01:14:54
create nuclear weapons, of course, and I
01:14:56
think that there are a dozen more countries that
01:14:58
Japan, by the way, are a constant threat
01:15:01
Russian Federation and why hope
01:15:04
for guarantees from the United States and China since
01:15:06
such a story Japan is easily
01:15:09
able to create its own technologies, and
01:15:11
finally, Ukraine, even more so, can
01:15:12
join forces with Poland and create its
01:15:14
own nuclear weapons What is the
01:15:16
problem, technically I think there are no
01:15:17
big problems
01:15:19
yes They it seems like
01:15:22
they don’t use nuclear weapons, but let’s just look
01:15:24
at the landscapes that are in the eastern
01:15:27
eastern regions of our country,
01:15:29
Marinka Or the same bakhmut, it’s not much
01:15:33
different from the fact that they use
01:15:35
conventional or non-
01:15:38
conventional weapons and don’t you think there is
01:15:40
something like this theory? one
01:15:43
agreement is important and others are less important,
01:15:46
such as the Budapest memorandum, but the very
01:15:48
fact of the invasion of Ukraine by the Russian army
01:15:51
is a violation of everything that is
01:15:53
possible, and now if we are already
01:15:56
talking about the fact that
01:15:59
Russia can be stopped by force, which,
01:16:02
by the way, Dmitry Medvedev just said
01:16:04
I I want to ask you how you
01:16:09
see the ideal Ninth of May on Red Square
01:16:12
in Moscow Well, not this year, although it’s far away
01:16:17
Hello Today I must say Yes, first of all,
01:16:19
of course, you understand what you’re saying.
01:16:21
Let’s comment on your words
01:16:23
first. The fact is that it’s the nuclear
01:16:26
threat. Here it is
01:16:27
the threat of nuclear weapons is described by this treaty and this is the basis
01:16:30
of the post-war world, it’s the very basis Yes, this
01:16:33
treaty is the basis of the
01:16:34
world’s security system, if 170 countries of the world
01:16:38
say no, we no longer believe this
01:16:39
treaty, then we need to re-in general, completely
01:16:41
create a new security system in the
01:16:43
world, that’s why it’s so critically
01:16:45
important itself in itself, aggression against us is
01:16:47
condemned, as we remember, but
01:16:50
unfortunately there are no treaties
01:16:52
that prohibit waging war, there is no such
01:16:54
treaty that it is forbidden to wage war. For war,
01:16:56
you can be condemned, punished later, and
01:16:59
so on, but there is no ban, but for that there is a
01:17:01
direct ban Now that means, as for the
01:17:03
ideal Ninth of May, today Russia
01:17:05
took, you know, a huge step
01:17:08
towards achieving this ideal. The fact is
01:17:11
that we observed, so I came up with the
01:17:13
term excellent parade of parades, you know, yes
01:17:16
in Russia, that is, at first weeks
01:17:18
in Belgorod were canceled then canceled in
01:17:21
Kursk was then canceled in occupied
01:17:23
Sevastopol, then they canceled the
01:17:26
May Day demonstration in Moscow, then they canceled the
01:17:28
air parade in Moscow, then they canceled the
01:17:30
Immortal Regiment throughout Russia, that is, they
01:17:33
directly canceled and canceled and But today
01:17:35
they took a decisive step towards
01:17:38
allowing us to carry out normally calmly with a
01:17:41
sense of our own dignity
01:17:42
drone strikes on Red
01:17:45
Square on May 9 I’ll explain why just
01:17:48
yesterday one of our politicians said
01:17:50
Well, we can’t strike on Red
01:17:51
Square because
01:17:53
in some of the conversations I don’t remember
01:17:55
it was because there
01:17:57
will be peaceful people there people watch it’s time, so
01:18:00
they forbade peaceful people to watch the
01:18:01
parade, you know, today in
01:18:04
Moscow they issued some kind of decree that from
01:18:06
some date almost
01:18:07
today until May 10, Red Square
01:18:10
is closed to the public
01:18:12
so they will have a parade there
01:18:15
Putin will speak but there will be no
01:18:17
civilian audience there Judging by Well, if you believe
01:18:19
what they handed over today What does this mean?
01:18:21
It means that there
01:18:23
will only be legitimate military targets on Red Square, that
01:18:26
is, this is an ideal situation, it’s
01:18:27
like hitting a military base or a
01:18:29
military school or at a military plant
01:18:31
which is all legitimate military targets
01:18:33
here, if we hit the parade and
01:18:36
accidentally killed civilians there
01:18:38
who were watching it, we would have been
01:18:40
condemned by the world, of course. And we wouldn’t really
01:18:42
think that we would have ruined relations in the
01:18:44
United States of America it is possible
01:18:46
with this But to hit military targets
01:18:48
during the parade, only the military naturally
01:18:50
lead the parade and the military also takes part in it.
01:18:52
Therefore, this has become a
01:18:54
legitimate military goal, so we
01:18:56
now have a dream to see our
01:18:58
drones as participants, yes they will have
01:18:59
it. Let the air part of the parade consist
01:19:01
of from Ukrainian
01:19:03
drones, I think, well, of course, these are
01:19:06
all our dreams. Why will I say because
01:19:08
Yesterday it became known from the Washington Post. To be
01:19:11
honest, I am inclined to trust because
01:19:13
it said that the Americans persuaded us on
01:19:15
February 24 of this year not to
01:19:19
launch massive strikes on Moscow,
01:19:21
although we were ready for this our army
01:19:24
was ready for this and they
01:19:26
told the American based on some of their own
01:19:27
considerations. So for some reason I think that
01:19:29
now the Americans can also
01:19:30
persuade us not to do all this. Although I
01:19:33
really want to, of course, I really want
01:19:43
the President of the received States, Joseph
01:19:46
Biden, saying that the wine def the president from the
01:19:48
received States,
01:19:49
as far as they know him, Mriya Maybe
01:19:53
got involved in the plans for My bootni and it’s obvious Well,
01:19:59
I once can in Russia because I
01:20:03
placed a bet on Trump
01:20:06
Well, of course, he set me up a little here,
01:20:08
Biden set me up personally, so Trivana
01:20:10
set me up I didn’t know Yes, but it was
01:20:12
announced late The thing is that last
01:20:14
week I was in Washington and in the White House,
01:20:16
which means I bought a Trump Trump 2024 cap
01:20:20
Well, just as a souvenir and a Biden 2020 badge
01:20:24
Why was the Biden 2020 badge on the fourth there
01:20:27
were no badges because it hadn’t
01:20:28
been put forward yet I put it on this other one,
01:20:31
so I took a photo, and people saw
01:20:33
that I had a badge of the twentieth Biden and
01:20:35
Trump the twenty-fourth and decided that I was
01:20:37
in the twentieth I was banned, but now
01:20:38
for Trump’s terrible scandal I had to
01:20:40
apologize and explain my position that I was
01:20:42
completely in this sense, I tried to
01:20:44
show on the contrary, an example of our
01:20:46
neutrality or something Ukrainian, that
01:20:48
you will have Trump And Biden you choose Whoever you
01:20:49
want means Biden so far on issues in the
01:20:54
Democratic Party is absolutely the Leader
01:20:55
among candidates within the Democratic
01:20:57
Party and he has a good chance of
01:20:59
actually being Democrats but Trump
01:21:02
Leader among Republicans too
01:21:05
Definitely for now therefore, it is very
01:21:08
likely today if there
01:21:10
are no Surprises, by the way, they may
01:21:11
even be. There is still a lot of time ahead, then we will
01:21:14
again see a fight between the two Jacobs, in the sense of
01:21:16
Trump and Biden, and you know, I don’t
01:21:20
really want to interfere in the internal
01:21:22
politics of the United States, as he told us almost a
01:21:24
little Isn’t Anthony Blinken going to win there,
01:21:26
don’t worry about yourself in Ukraine, don’t
01:21:28
place any bets on any
01:21:30
US presidents and he will
01:21:32
support you and this is what I heard
01:21:34
constantly in Washington from everyone I
01:21:36
talked to that of course We don’t need to
01:21:39
deal with this and get involved in this domestic
01:21:41
policy Let the Russians climb and
01:21:42
support Trump, by the way, Trump will
01:21:45
only go in the negative, of course, and we
01:21:47
must believe that the American people will
01:21:49
agree with us. That the American people are not the
01:21:50
president, no one is the American
01:21:52
people, and that’s why we have the overwhelming
01:21:55
majority of support from the American voters,
01:21:56
so any president
01:21:58
will to follow the will of the people the power of the
01:22:00
president is very limited in the USA It’s
01:22:01
just very limited and our Senate
01:22:05
supports him party-wise, the congress
01:22:07
supports us bipartisanly, so all this
01:22:10
will be some nuances Yes, so to speak, under
01:22:12
one president or under another, and we don’t
01:22:14
need to quarrel with any of them now
01:22:16
or to get too close, so Let's
01:22:18
say we will be satisfied with any choice of the
01:22:19
American people, which is our friend and
01:22:21
closest Partner. But in general, we must
01:22:24
still hope, you know what to believe in, we
01:22:25
must not believe in Biden, but in the whole and laid down
01:22:28
that they will have time Until February 2025
01:22:31
Victory will end this war and then we it
01:22:34
will definitely not matter who the President of the United States is,
01:22:36
Mikhail. What do you think for the inside of
01:22:39
American politics is the
01:22:41
outcome of the war before the elections in the United
01:22:44
States? It is important, well, conditionally, so that the
01:22:47
same Biden could say: Look, it was a
01:22:50
Nazi Russian state, we, as
01:22:54
always, are fighting Nazism and have provided
01:22:55
assistance in fraternal to the Ukrainian people
01:22:57
is it important for them or not Well, or
01:23:00
accordingly Well, conventionally, Trump or
01:23:02
some other candidate from the
01:23:03
Republican Party will say,
01:23:06
look, but there is a Russian Nazi
01:23:09
state, we are a great country, with my
01:23:12
camera it’s a gain, we couldn’t
01:23:14
do anything, it’s the Ukrainian factor that’s
01:23:18
important
01:23:20
Well, to some extent, yes, first of all,
01:23:22
Trump’s new slogan, I don’t know, he’ll go
01:23:24
to the polls with it, but for now it’s written on the caps,
01:23:27
that is, take it, and how would it be? That’s the
01:23:30
slogan he has for now, which means
01:23:32
that’s why there’s no longer any Great
01:23:35
Game. Here
01:23:37
you are you know, yes, an important factor is not the first not the
01:23:41
first row probably 2 1st row of course
01:23:44
China is what can or cannot byte
01:23:46
come to an agreement with China And this is the
01:23:48
main thing that worries the Americans
01:23:51
for real This is China, the Chinese threat
01:23:53
and Ukraine is probably second in this
01:23:56
sense and here of course For now Again, there are
01:23:58
still 2 more years ahead, you know, yes, the elections are
01:24:00
almost 2 years, well, well, there’s already a year and
01:24:02
a half left until the elections, by the way, there’s only one left until November of
01:24:04
next year A And While there is a certain bidan
01:24:08
bid, it’s clear that Biden
01:24:10
is responsible for the victory before the American
01:24:11
people, he’s responsible for the victory of Ukraine he
01:24:13
invested a lot of his own authority into this
01:24:15
and of course the Victory of Ukraine is important to him
01:24:18
in order to add electoral
01:24:20
points, and Trump has emphasized for now that he
01:24:22
is associated more with Russia since
01:24:25
he stated that he would be ready to give
01:24:27
Russia some parts of Ukraine and so
01:24:28
on, but the whole territory can still
01:24:30
the Trumpian one will also change, that is,
01:24:32
Trump may switch to our
01:24:34
side, you need to understand this if they see
01:24:35
that the messenger
01:24:37
does not work electorally, but for now, yes for now, it will be
01:24:39
electoral points for our
01:24:42
Victories,
01:24:43
we are here for you for your comments
01:24:49
on the air

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У кращих ефірах за квітень експерти Марк Фейгін @FeyginLive, Михайло Шейтельман @sheitelman та Ігор Яковенко @IgorYakovenko обговорили, в які проблеми вліз Путін, чого бояться в Кремлі і у чому зізнався Пєсков.

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